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08:02.53wildBabelO ... are you there?
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08:09.35BabelO_hi wild
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10:26.34wildhi babelo, have you find a terminal consol for opie2/qtopia?
10:31.07sadeness_guy, where I can find kernel for try it on htc prophet?
10:32.31wildBabelO_: are you there?
10:33.55BabelO_wild : yes
10:34.36BabelO_wild : no terminal console for Qtopia, there is one, but it need some work,
10:34.42wildlast day we search some terminal console for qtopia... have you find/compile/test it?
10:34.53wildahh ok
10:35.06wildone question
10:35.35wildcan i use pccardctl and acx module/tool for openmoko?
10:36.02BabelO_wild : wild yes sure same procedure
10:36.26wildok :) eheh there i have an terminal emulator :)
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10:45.03wildBabelO_: when i start openmoko with the same kernel in linux folder (fat) of my sdcard.... i can't see the usb0 device like qtopia
11:01.00BabelO_wild : it is normal ;)
11:01.14BabelO_wild: check /etc/network/interface
11:01.27BabelO_in top of this file you have auto lo
11:01.33BabelO_just add auto usb0
11:01.49BabelO_to auto setup usb device
11:06.14wildBabelO_: now i'm with terminal console of openmoko (the font size is to smallllll grrrr there is a way to change font size?) i add in top of file:
11:06.29wild1) add auto usb0
11:06.40wild2) auto setup usb device
11:06.43wild?
11:06.58BabelO_look at file /etc/network/interface
11:07.10wildin this case when i reboot openmoko i can connect through usb cable?
11:07.15BabelO_yes
11:11.32wildBabelO_:  i'm hungry now! see you later! bye
11:11.36wild:)
11:11.41BabelO_bye
11:14.55cr2BabelO_: hi
11:15.11BabelO_hi cr2
11:15.37BabelO_cr2 : is your opensuse install working now ?
11:15.55cr2i've started to write the .rdm read support yesterday.
11:16.07cr2yes, it worked already yesterday.
11:16.23cr2but i have libstdc++ linking problems with gdal
11:16.40cr24.1 -> 4.2 switch is obviously not painless
11:23.14BabelO_cr2 : directly in gpsmapedit ? cool ;)
11:24.38cr2yes.
11:25.14cr2when reading is ready, then i'll do writing.
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12:57.17cr2_kiozen: i have some interesting news for you.
12:57.30kiozenyup?
12:58.35kiozencr2_?
12:59.02cr2_i'll send you the a mail
12:59.09cr2_this is one thing.
12:59.10kiozenok :)
12:59.39cr2_the other one. we are allowed reuse the old gpsmapedit code.
12:59.53cr2_so i've ported it to winelib
12:59.57cr2_and it works.
13:00.28cr2_now i'm writing some code for loading .rdm
13:01.25kiozenwooooaahh
13:01.36kiozenthat's really interesting
13:01.47kiozendoes it have nod/net code?
13:01.58cr2_no.
13:02.11cr2_that's the 0.98b version
13:02.22cr2_so, before it became shareware.
13:02.55cr2_hm. can't find the archive file...
13:03.28kiozenso how much beer do we have to sent to make them tell how to decode this :)
13:04.34cr2_i think cgpsmapper is the only address for it ;)
13:04.43cr2_and he wants too much beer.
13:04.59cr2_hehe. found.
13:05.19cr2_back in 5min.
13:05.24kiozenack
13:09.28cr2_sent.
13:13.55kiozencr2: looks like fw upload code for garmin
13:14.31kiozen_tmain() ... Borland uhhhh
13:17.27cr2_kiozen: download.
13:17.55kiozenyou are right.
13:17.58cr2_may be useful for qlandkarte, if you think so.
13:18.23cr2_well, we can do upload out of it.
13:18.47kiozenhm, why would I like to download the fw?
13:19.18kiozenupload would be kind of nice. But i fear support :)
13:19.21cr2_not only the fw, but any predefined blocks.
13:20.01cr2_0xa is gmapsupp.img, btw.
13:22.01kiozenok. but reading the SD card is easier. :) But let's see, you never knew what we might need to reed some day.
13:22.30cr2_kiozen: you don#t need to dl, but there are some people who earn big money in this area.
13:22.46cr2_they are _very_ unhappy.
13:23.04kiozenunhappy?
13:23.20cr2_to tell it mildly :)
13:23.30kiozen???
13:23.49cr2_they sell hacked fw to support other languages.
13:24.11cr2_so if somebody does dl, you don't need to pay them.
13:24.50cr2_so they lose $$$
13:25.07kiozendo we speak of the same direction? download := device -> Pc
13:25.29cr2_yes, but then everybody can upload it on his device
13:25.47kiozenclick, now I got it :)
13:25.59cr2_after somebody buys, downloads it, and posts to some inet forum.
13:26.41kiozenyou like detroying values, don't you :)
13:26.58cr2_ip is theft :)
13:27.16kiozenlol
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13:28.08kiozenbtw: loox N560 has it been linuxfied
13:28.22cr2_it has gps ?
13:28.26kiozenyes
13:28.36kiozenSirfIII
13:28.41cr2_ok.
13:29.09kiozenI think about getting one to make better PDA compatible apps ;)
13:29.19cr2_do you have a link for the port ?
13:29.27cr2_i guess it's s3c24xx cpu
13:30.08kiozenI read a lengthy discussion concluding into nothing
13:30.19cr2_hehe.
13:30.40kiozenthus I wonder if read read the right discussion...
13:30.41cr2_loox was done by htc before ?
13:31.41kiozenhttp://www.firstloox.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=77
13:32.32cr2_ok.
13:33.13kiozenand it's a bit pricy, too. Bad WAF
13:34.00cr2_i'd like to see the specs.
13:35.46kiozenofficial stuff: http://www.andres-industries.de/rugged_pda/
13:40.57kiozencr2: that guy seems to know: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=28833&st=30
13:46.46cr2_lol. what kind of forums do you read :)
13:50.23kiozenI can't read it. Hope it's nothing rude :)
13:50.55kiozenit's supposed to be an inoffical update
13:53.54cr2_4pda is the most hardcore gps-related site i know ;)
13:55.40BabelO_boh you speak russian ?
13:55.43BabelO_hi kiozen
13:56.17kiozenhi Babelo
13:57.10cr2_BabelO_: it's a hardcore warez site.
13:58.00kiozenThus it's better we can't read it :D
14:00.03BabelO_kiozen : i read this with babelfish or google ;)
14:00.59BabelO_i just speak a little english, and some word of german i can't say here.. lol
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14:04.22kiozenbabel talks aubout "piercings" it must be rude :)
14:04.53ivucicakiozen: depends on where the piercings are located xD
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14:05.36kiozenlol
14:05.54ivucicaif i'm using "keepinitrd" kernel param, what should i set the "root=" kernel parameter to?
14:06.06ivucicai'm using a 2.4.19 kernel from familiar
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14:14.37ivucicacr2 -- my hero xD
14:14.39cr2kiozen: pxa272
14:14.53ivucicaa question, again
14:14.56ivucicai'm using a 2.4.19 kernel from familiar
14:14.58ivucicaif i'm using "keepinitrd" kernel param, what should i set the "root=" kernel parameter to?
14:15.52cr2<PROTECTED>
14:16.12cr2hehe. it may be devfs on such an old kernel
14:16.14ivucicait didnt work
14:16.19ivucicalol
14:16.25ivucicawell, i tried /dev/ram0, and /dev/rd/0
14:16.29cr2<PROTECTED>
14:16.31ivucicaneither worked ("unable to mount..."
14:16.35cr2or something like that.
14:16.48cr2can you mount the ramdisk with -o loop ?
14:16.58ivucicaon i386, yes ;)
14:17.01cr2after gzip -d or corse.
14:17.04cr2ok.
14:17.37ivucicait seems like it manages to decompress the ext2 image, and then fails to mount it, or something
14:18.01ivucicahere are the boot options
14:19.35ivucicarootdelay=1 root=/dev/rd/0 mem=64M ramdisk_size=13200 keepinitrd console=ttySA0,115200n8
14:19.45cr2can't you switch to the latest 2.6 ?
14:19.53cr2of it does not work ?
14:19.54ivucicai originally had /dev/ram0 and replaced it
14:20.09ivucicahm ... if i knew where to find latest 2.6 for my device, i'd switch ;)
14:20.51ivucicatho it's another few megs for download over modem ... :S
14:21.10ivucicaand, handhelds.org lists it as "not tested"
14:23.33ivucicacr2: any other ideas?
14:23.39cr2yes, i'm not sure if it compiles at lal.
14:24.06cr2no.
14:24.19cr2the kernel compiled with ext2 support ?
14:24.28ivucicaah i found angstrom's site :]
14:24.56ivucicait looks like it has prebuilt 2.6 kernels for my device
14:25.05ivucicacr2: i can't tell
14:25.11ivucicabut i presume it is
14:27.06cr2ok.
14:27.29cr2kiozen: pxa27x is good. it seems that the gps shares the STUART with IR.
14:27.57cr2BT is on BTUART
14:28.33cr2SD is pxamci
14:28.43ivucicacr2: if kernel is built with jffs2 support, can the jffs2 image be used as initrd image=
14:28.50ivucica? *
14:32.05cr2ivucica: don't know.
14:32.15cr2but it's better to have ext2.
14:32.24cr2ext2 works ;)
14:32.42cr2kiozen: the sound chip is on SSP.
14:33.00cr2probably some wm7* codecd
14:33.45kiozenmost important would be a decent powercontrol, GPS, WLAN, display
14:33.51cr2fw_dcr_1150_sta.bin
14:34.02cr2it's the 54mbit ACX100
14:34.31cr2we don't have a linux driver for it yet. but it's the same chip as on hermes/athena/etc.
14:34.48cr2GPS will work. it's sure. the SD too.
14:34.56cr2display ... looking for it.
14:35.03ivucicacr2: haha, i must agree -- however most images are given as jffs2 -- and it's a pain to convert them ;)
14:35.12cr2if it's pxafb, then you have a very simple device.
14:35.23cr2ivucica: they are for flashing.
14:35.55cr2TIInit_3_4_27.bts
14:36.15cr2looks like our old friend TBRF6150
14:36.21ivucicacr2: i know
14:37.09cr2kiozen: it's the same BT fw, BabelO_ has on his BA.
14:38.10BabelO_cr2 : are you sure it is on BA or on artemis either?
14:38.59cr2BabelO_: on BA for sure.
14:39.10kiozenBT only sucks power. I could live without...
14:39.26cr2kiozen: it looks like HTC magician with wifi and gps. nice standard device.
14:39.35cr2kiozen: wifi even more.
14:39.57BabelO_kiozen : but when no data are transmited over better, power is low... wifi always consumme power
14:40.03cr2with some gpio tracing it will be very easy to support linux on it.
14:40.33cr2BabelO_: what BT chipset do you have on artemis ? and how it is connected ?
14:41.24kiozencr2: that was for the N560, right?
14:41.52cr2kiozen: yes. if you want to buy it to run linux, it's a good choice.
14:41.59BabelO_cr2: it seem it is brf6150 too, i alerady send this firmware to you i think
14:42.24cr2BabelO_: ok. then it's probably artemis
14:42.35kiozencr2: how about the smaller brother N520. Is it just a weaker CPU?
14:43.18cr2kiozen: i was looking at the 560 fw. if it can be used by 520, then yes.
14:43.57kiozenseems to be same CPU
14:44.05kiozendifferent display
14:46.53cr2ok, there is already c550 support
14:49.23cr2kiozen: so it'll be very easy to add the rest.
14:49.51cr2for some reason it's not in the http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary
14:49.56cr2but in the hh.org CVS
14:51.05kiozenok, now I have to find a way to increase the WAF (wife acceptance factor) or decrease the price :)
14:51.57cr2lol
14:54.37cr2http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/LooxC550
14:59.44kiozenhm, not too promising
14:59.45BabelO_kiozen : usually this factor is very very low on start :)
15:05.58cr2kiozen: the pages are outdated. i've looked ath the CVS source.
15:08.35kiozenespecially the power control would be important. I wonder if it is possible to make this thing to run longer than 5h.
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15:16.27kiozenbbl
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15:58.33goxboxlivehi
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16:10.13goxboxlivecr2: here?
16:14.53cr2yes.
16:15.46goxboxlivehi
16:15.56goxboxlivecr2: do you know what linux-rp is?
16:16.15goxboxliveI see in the OE  source that universal is supported.
16:16.47cr2a kernel version for zaurus ?
16:16.49goxboxlivehttp://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.23.bb
16:17.04goxboxlivethat make sense but why add universal to it?
16:17.49cr2don't know.
16:18.02cr2because it's better than zaurus ? :)
16:18.36goxboxlivehmm, i also see that they use the 2.6..23 source, while we are still at 21
16:19.08goxboxliveI am trying to build a kernel and test it
16:19.08cr2only htcuni-acx.patch
16:19.13cr2and defconfig
16:19.15goxboxliveyes
16:19.31cr2my oe whines about qmake.bbclass
16:19.45goxboxlivehttp://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.23+2.6.24-rc0+git.bb
16:19.52goxboxlivecomment on uni here
16:20.02cr2well, waiting for psokolovsky.
16:20.17goxboxlivedont waste your time on OE.
16:20.22goxboxliveYes, where is he?
16:21.24cr2no idea.
16:21.30cr2~seen psokolovsky
16:21.36aptpsokolovsky <n=psokolov@82.193.99.7> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 16d 15h 44m 44s ago, saying: 'hope it's just me...'.
16:22.08cr2.24-rc0 already ?
16:22.09goxboxliveHe said that he was oing on a vacation, but man that vacation has been long :)
16:22.23cr216 days is long ?
16:22.51goxboxlive:) No, he just where for few hours or so a couple of days
16:23.17goxboxliveI guess he has been gone for about three months or so now
16:23.21cr2ok.
16:25.03cr2don't know why the patch is called so.
16:25.10cr2it's just the acx100 support.
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16:27.18cr2goxboxlive: when pH5 appears we should bash him about the pxa27x-cif support :)
16:27.21goxboxlivecr2: no while i builded it now, also a htcuni.patch where aplied
16:27.38cr2htcuni.patch is the acx100 support
16:27.38goxboxlivecif support? cam?
16:27.41cr2yes.
16:27.53goxboxliveyes we should have that ready now
16:28.28goxboxlivelook further up:            file://htcuni.patch;patch=1 \
16:28.49cr2yes, look inside the patch.
16:28.50goxboxliveand this one:
16:29.02goxboxliveit is the hh.org source
16:30.23cr2hm. yes.
16:31.50goxboxliveit compiled :-)
16:32.49cr2uni+asic3 patch
16:34.39goxboxlivehmm it made me a tar.gz module file, and a zImage.bin file, though it where 200kB bigger that our
16:35.10goxboxliveI dont think it will boot, because i guess they are using the defconfigman config file for universal, and it would boot with it
16:36.13cr2i guess it's done in the same way as on zaurus
16:36.44cr2i can see some braindead code in the patch. written by me :)
16:37.57cr2and the stable old rusty ts2 driver.
16:38.00goxboxlive:-)
16:39.04cr2the config is done in a zaurus way.
16:39.17goxboxliveI am copying the linux-rp work directory now, and try to edit the defconfig file
16:39.27cr2probably somebody from the oz team has bought an universal.
16:39.33goxboxliveok
16:43.23cr2goxboxlive: is there sdio support in the kernel now ?
16:43.31goxboxliveStandard 224-color OpenedHand logo (LOGO_OHAND_CLUT224)
16:43.39goxboxliveno idea
16:44.14goxboxlivewhat is the name i shoudl search for?
16:44.21cr2rp is Richard Purdie from OpenedHand.
16:44.34cr2drivers/mmc
16:45.44cr2i've forgot when i've compiled a non-arm kernel now :)
16:46.11goxboxlivei cant fin it
16:46.27goxboxlivei'll test the image :-)
16:49.15cr2i have a sdio gps card.
16:49.34cr2which does not want to work on wince anymore ;)
16:50.07cr2and there is no wince5 driver.
16:52.43cr2google.com
16:53.51goxboxliveo
16:53.52goxboxlivek
16:54.00goxboxliveThe linux kernel booted
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16:54.22goxboxlivebut i where missing moudules.dep
16:54.32goxboxlivecr2: pH5 arrived, lets grab him :-D
16:56.21pH5good evening
16:56.34cr2hi pH5
16:56.55cr2what do you think about pxa27x-cif driver ?
16:57.10goxboxliveroot@htcuniversal:/etc/ipkg$ uname -a
16:57.10goxboxliveLinux htcuniversal 2.6.23 #1 PREEMPT Tue Oct 23 18:32:14 CEST 2007 armv5tel unknown
16:57.10goxboxliveroot@htcuniversal:/etc/ipkg$
16:57.30cr2goxboxlive: depmod -a ?
16:57.38pH5good idea, somebody just has to write it.
16:57.56cr2pH5: lol. i thought you have already done it :)
16:58.18goxboxlivegave me nothing
16:58.37goxboxliveI make a image with the linux-rp kernel instead of hh.org kernel
16:58.58cr2goxboxlive: where are your modules ?
16:59.34goxboxliveI missed my moudule.dep, cause i only extracted the modules in to the image, i didnt install it
17:01.13pH5cr2: git clone git://ossfans.org/git/kernel-ov96xx.git has all I have done so far.
17:01.35pH5but it's far from a working pxa27x-cif driver.
17:02.22BabelO_goxboxlive : do you receive little message at gmail ?
17:02.55cr2pH5: i mean the pxa-camera, not the ovXXXX
17:03.12goxboxliveBabelO_: hold on i check
17:03.21cr2hmm. where is Kevin2...
17:03.33goxboxliveBabelO_: nope
17:03.56BabelO_ok ;) i have to create an other account for test only
17:04.56pH5cr2: it's in there (but nonfunctional). the ov65xx driver can only recognize the chip, no more.
17:08.05cr2pH5: ok.
17:08.31pH5any news on qtopia phone support for magician/ba?
17:08.51cr2Kevin2: please look at the SDIO register layout at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ATIWxxxx and http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ASIC3
17:09.08BabelO_pH5 : i take one airplane ticket to  bring my ba to ljp :)
17:09.09cr2it looks the same.
17:10.08cr2Kevin2: it's the same Toshiba MMIO SDIO core ASIC. they all get it from Toshiba, it seems :) evil monopolies are sometimes good for us :)
17:10.32cr2pH5: right :)
17:11.11cr2hm. TMIO.
17:13.06cr2pH5: that makes hima and BA very funny devices. they have TMIO in the ASIC3 and in the ATI.
17:13.40BabelO_cr2: is it possible capture port is wired to ATI SDIO ?
17:14.02cr2BabelO_: no. it's the CIF capture port.
17:14.08pH5cr2: and on top of that, BA has ds1wm in the asic3 and in the pasic3
17:14.10BabelO_ok :(
17:14.27cr2pH5: pasic2
17:14.31pH5right
17:14.40BabelO_pH5 : yes all dual , it is for redundant, ba is a production machine .. lol
17:15.04pH5:) now if only it could dynamically rewire in case of component failures
17:15.10cr2BabelO_: compare the ISP1583 and EPSON datasheets for athena.
17:15.34cr2both are USB2.0 host+ATA/CF controllers
17:15.55cr2HTC uses USB host from one chip, and ATA/CF from another.
17:16.08BabelO_cr2: so it is a real usb host not usb otg, that's good for you
17:16.14cr2it's hardcore redundancy.
17:16.31cr2BabelO_: i think it's both.
17:16.56cr2BabelO_: and athena has real USB host. i can connect an USB stick to it.
17:17.16cr2i've even found a GPL ISP1582 driver somewhere.
17:17.30cr2don't remember where, and can't find it anymore.
17:17.45cr2but since it's on my HDD, i can commit it to the CVS.
17:18.14cr2but it seems the ASIC3 driver can be reused to have an SD card.
17:18.45BabelO_cr2: i think i know where ISP1582 driver is ... let me look
17:18.48cr2that'll give a real boost to hermes/trinity and athena development.
17:21.03BabelO_cr2: ah no, i have isp116x and isp1301
17:23.02BabelO_cr2: no i though i have it in mvista kernel, but no :(
17:23.15cr2BabelO_: there is also an isp176x driver
17:23.26cr2i think it comes from montavista.
17:24.50BabelO_cr2 http://ftp.roedu.net/mirrors/sf.net/i/is/isp176x-hcd/
17:25.34cr2BabelO_: i've found that the isp1582 driver was available from philips site.
17:25.39cr2but there is nothing there.
17:28.29cr2heh. a lot of thanks to somebody inside CPQ, who has published the ipaq-asic3.h header.
17:28.30BabelO_cr2 : there is also isp1362
17:29.01cr2BabelO_: there are a lot of isp chips at http://www.nxp.com
17:29.29BabelO_cr2 : i just speak about source
17:29.50cr2BabelO_: ok. but i _have_ the isp1582 driver.
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18:06.16cr2BabelO_: another interesting question about asic3 is the sdhc support
18:06.33cr2goxboxlive: does universal support sdhc ?
18:06.45goxboxlivein wince no idea
18:06.53goxboxliveI never use it anymore
18:07.28BabelO_goxboxlive: , cr2 i read a post at xda about a dll for sdhc but only for wm6
18:07.42goxboxlivei dont even know what sdhc is. After i started with linux on these devices i havent manage to keep me up2date. :-)
18:08.04cr2lol
18:08.23cr2i'm only interested if the hardware supports it.
18:08.32cr2wm6 or wm1 does not matter.
18:09.05cr2pH5: does your sdhc card work on magician ?
18:09.11goxboxlivecr2: but i know one thing, wince is supporting the cam, we dont :-)
18:09.39pH5cr2: yes
18:10.33goxboxlivepH5: do you know who is maintaining linux-rp in OE? is it hrw?
18:12.13cr2pH5: it's interesting if the hx4700 will break :)
18:15.09pH5cr2: nope, seems to work just fine. looks like there are no problems with sdhc on asic3
18:15.32pH5(actually, it would have surprised me, it being such a dumb controller)
18:16.27pH5goxboxlive: I don't know, if you look at the logs, the 2.6.22 recipe was modified by RP an XorA
18:16.51goxboxliveok
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18:22.42cr2pH5: lol.
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18:24.01cr2pH5: a disk controller without the DMA support is really dumb.
18:29.21cr2oe still uses 4.1.2 ?
18:29.25cr2gcc 4.1.2
18:29.44cr2hehe. i'm recompiling glibc
18:30.57pH5yup
18:37.12goxboxliveBabelO_: i get this while trying to start Qtopia on universal:
18:37.14goxboxlive'AudioState :   Ficgta01VolumeService::initVolumes()
18:37.14goxboxlivesnd_mixer_attach error -19
18:37.14goxboxliveqpe: mixer.c:788: snd_mixer_first_elem: Assertion `mixer' failed.
18:37.15goxboxliveAborted
18:37.15goxboxlivealsactl: load_state:1329: No soundcards found...
18:39.03cr2goxboxlive: where is the source ?
18:39.32goxboxlivecr2: ??? mixer.c?
18:40.53cr2no. Ficgta01VolumeService
18:41.17goxboxlivecr2: in the devices/ficgta01
18:41.22goxboxliveqtopia source
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18:42.40cr2devices/ficgta01 ... ?
18:43.05cr2find . | xargs grep Ficgta01VolumeService
18:43.09cr2gives nothing
18:43.16cr2maybe my qtopia is too old.
18:48.47goxboxliveyes i think
18:48.57goxboxliveit was added in the snapshoths releases
18:49.13cr2link ?
18:49.14goxboxlivecr2: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/
18:49.19cr2ok.
18:59.08goxboxlivecr2: what is this? http://pastebin.no/2716 i get it when i am booting 2.6.23
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19:01.38dcsmith7anyone know the status of hermes?
19:01.53dcsmith7is there anything I can just use to make calls?
19:02.12cr2goxboxlive: a nice kernel oops.
19:02.28cr2dcsmith7: not yet.
19:02.57cr2dcsmith7: but it seems i've found out a very important thing today.
19:03.06dcsmith7cr2: does it even boot? is there anything I can help research without bricking it?
19:03.26cr2it boots with a ramdisk
19:03.42cr2but there was no SD card support so far.
19:03.48goxboxlivecr2: ok, i think i know why the sound  in qtopia bugs me, it's because i miss the ak4641 module, maybe linux-rp needs a patch there too
19:04.09cr2goxboxlive: htcuniversal_ak4641 is the replacement.
19:04.25cr2dcsmith7: what would you like to research ?
19:04.52goxboxlivecr2: ok, that might be the reason right?
19:05.29cr2goxboxlive: where is the ak4641 called ?
19:05.31dcsmith7cr2: something reasonably easy, as I'm by no means a hardware guy, and something that will get the phone on the road to full support
19:05.43dcsmith7cr2: tedious may be best
19:06.26goxboxlivenowhere
19:06.34cr2dcsmith7: the ATI is probably too complex, i'm trying to do something useful myself.
19:06.56goxboxlivebut when i do cat file.wav > /dev/dsp it gives me nothing
19:07.00cr2dcsmith7: the NAND and the touchscreen do not work.
19:07.01dcsmith7cr2: has anyone even asked ati for specs?
19:07.10goxboxliveand the htcuniversal_ak4641.ko is missing
19:07.21cr2goxboxlive: did you load htcuniversal_ak4641 ?
19:07.26cr2goxboxlive: but it's in the patch.
19:07.37cr2goxboxlive: maybe not in the defconfig ?
19:07.48cr2dcsmith7: no. i think it's hopeless.
19:07.51dcsmith7cr2: how could i research touchscreen, that seems pretty easy
19:08.15cr2dcsmith7: look at the g500 ?
19:08.19dcsmith7cr2: but what about their new open source commitment?
19:09.12cr2dcsmith7: they even don't publish the wince imageon SDK. the only code i know is the betaplayer, which is certainly a leaked code.
19:09.23goxboxlivecr2: it is in the defconfig, but i cant fint it in the image
19:09.36cr2goxboxlive: it's a module
19:09.44goxboxlivei know
19:10.25dcsmith7cr2: doesn't one of the OS movieplayers have ati specific commands?
19:10.27cr2dcsmith7: and as it seems they have licensed the SD asic from Toshiba. this is supported in linux, but is a 100% RE effort too.
19:10.38cr2dcsmith7: it's the betaplayer.
19:11.19cr2ati will certainly say that it's up to Toshiba to release the data.
19:11.21dcsmith7cr2: tcmp?
19:11.44cr2i've seen a very confusing .pdf from Toshiba. utterly useless ;)
19:11.59cr2yes, tcpmp. it was called betaplayer before.
19:12.07dcsmith7oh ok
19:12.09dcsmith7sorry
19:12.53dcsmith7are there any newer sliders with better support?
19:13.09cr2which sliders ?
19:13.37dcsmith7tytn2? imates? even a sidekick, I really like the form factor
19:13.46dcsmith7but i'm sick of windows mobile
19:13.49cr2the keyboard on hermes should be very easy, i've documented the keycodes already. so don't bother with it.
19:14.13cr2tytn2 uses qualcomm cpu. there are no docs for it.
19:14.34goxboxlivehmm i installed the htcuniversal_ak4641 and loaded it, but qpe still failes
19:15.07cr2goxboxlive: do you have all other modules in the chain ?
19:15.33cr2goxboxlive: ak4641 is only for the i2c control port. there should be the pxa-i2s or something like that too.
19:15.36goxboxliveModule                  Size  Used by
19:15.37goxboxlivehtcuniversal_ak4641    10144  0
19:15.37goxboxliveusbserial              29104  0
19:15.37goxboxlivesnd_pcm_oss            40992  0
19:15.37goxboxlivesnd_pcm                74117  1 snd_pcm_oss
19:15.38goxboxlivesnd_timer              20708  1 snd_pcm
19:15.39goxboxlivesnd_page_alloc          6184  1 snd_pcm
19:15.41goxboxlivesnd_mixer_oss          14688  1 snd_pcm_oss
19:15.43goxboxlivesnd                    46292  5 htcuniversal_ak4641,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
19:15.45goxboxlivesoundcore               6564  1 snd
19:15.48goxboxliveok
19:16.05cr2look ath the lsmod output on the .21-hh kernel
19:17.56cr2goxboxlive: htcuniversal_phone with -EEXIST
19:18.06goxboxliveyes
19:18.12cr2this code was copied over from hx4700
19:18.19goxboxliveok
19:18.22cr2it's for the pxa serial ports.
19:18.37cr2needs some improvements, though.
19:19.12goxboxlivehmmi think i go back to the hh.org kernel
19:20.38goxboxlivecr2: what is this'.
19:20.40goxboxlive[ 2888.620000] I2C: i2c-0: PXA I2C adapter
19:20.40goxboxlive[ 2888.650000] I2C: i2c-1: PXA I2C adapter
19:20.40goxboxlive[ 2931.160000] i2c_core: Unknown symbol add_preempt_count
19:20.40goxboxlive[ 2931.170000] i2c_core: Unknown symbol debug_smp_processor_id
19:20.40goxboxlive[ 2931.180000] i2c_core: Unknown symbol sub_preempt_count
19:20.41goxboxlive[ 2943.230000] i2c_core: Unknown symbol add_preempt_count
19:20.43goxboxlive[ 2943.240000] i2c_core: Unknown symbol debug_smp_processor_id
19:20.45goxboxlive[ 2943.250000] i2c_core: Unknown symbol sub_preempt_count
19:20.47goxboxlive[ 2964.720000] htcuniversal powerup_lcd: cal
19:21.24cr2remove PREEMPT from defconfig
19:21.38cr2bth, the qtopia looks for
19:22.02cr2"Headphone" and "ALC Capture Target" (mic???)
19:22.10cr2alsa controls
19:22.26cr2we need our own replacements.
19:22.35cr2for ak4641
19:23.13goxboxliveremoved, also remove it from the hh.org htcuniversal_defconfig
19:24.45cr2on hh.org it worked. may be some .23 problem
19:25.01cr2// OSS for now
19:25.01cr2// TODO alsa
19:25.03goxboxliveok
19:25.10cr2seems to be obsolete.
19:25.22goxboxlivecr2: the numbers before the dmesg output, how do i remove it ?
19:25.28goxboxlive[ 2888.620000]
19:25.30goxboxliveand so on
19:26.59cr2goxboxlive: probably the time.
19:27.19cr2goxboxlive: this mixer stuff in qtopia is only about the volume control.
19:27.31cr2so it actually should work without it.
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19:32.07cr2goxboxlive: but the greenphone also has OV9640 Camera
19:32.16cr2goxboxlive: damn. it's the 2.4 kernel
19:33.03goxboxlivecr2: is it that diffrent, 2.4->2.6?
19:34.03cr2yes.
19:34.27cr2opie build failed on some wireless stuff. opienet
19:37.33goxboxlivecr2: tne disable it in task-opie
19:38.19cr2i see the GPRS svg icons
19:38.35cr2what about UMTS/HS?PA ?
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19:44.13goxboxliveno clue
19:46.49cr2create one :)
20:00.58goxboxliveThere where no problem starting qtopia with 2.6.21
20:15.09goxboxliveBabelO: BabelO_ there?
20:15.28goxboxliveWhy is this happening, it didnt happend with 4.2.x?
20:15.31goxboxlive/opt/Qtopia/bin/embeddedkonsole: error while loading shared libraries: libQtGui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
20:15.32BabelOgoxboxlive: yes we are there together
20:15.47goxboxliveIt's while i am trying to start a single application from ssh
20:15.50goxboxlive:-)
20:16.26goxboxliveto fox this i have to create a symlink in /usr/lib/*.so to /opt/Qtopia/lib/*.so
20:16.33goxboxlives/fox/fix/
20:16.56BabelOgoxboxlive: ok is your ld.so.conf ok ?
20:17.18goxboxlivedo i have to edit it?
20:17.51BabelOgoxboxlive: i ve this at end of this file
20:18.01BabelOthen start ldconfig again
20:18.08BabelO->pt/Qtopia/lib
20:18.12BabelO->Ot/Qtopia/lib
20:18.17BabelOgrhhh
20:18.19goxboxlivei get it :-)
20:18.21goxboxlivethx
20:19.46goxboxliveBabelO: you have to update your libts.pc.in file to libts-1.0.so.0 from libts-0.0.so.0 . Angstrom has updated libts
20:20.17BabelOgoxboxlive: ok
20:20.29BabelOgoxboxlive: can you speak to me at gmail ;)
20:21.32goxboxlivehold on
20:22.26goxboxlivedid you get my message?
20:22.41goxboxlivei got your
20:22.43goxboxlivemessage
20:23.21BabelOhumm not sure i got your, do you key segfault ? lol
20:23.46goxboxlive:-)
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22:11.28cr2BabelO: looking at the BA vidcap.
22:12.01BabelOcr2: how, you think ati card are similar ?
22:15.32cr2the ATI api is similar.
22:15.42BabelOgood ;)
22:16.07cr20x20000    xxx data
22:16.13cr2in the wiki.
22:17.22cr2+0x1c and 0x18
22:17.38cr2can you trace this area ?
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22:26.42cr2BabelO: on BA everything seems to be very simple :)
22:27.02BabelOyes like the wifi ;)
22:27.20BabelOhum just few seconds i restart to wince
22:30.34cr2now i see why it's void *
22:30.43BabelOhmmm whart is this command to get wince network over usb :(
22:30.44cr2it's different on all devices.
22:31.07cr2hehe. does not work for me on athena.
22:32.10BabelOok i found how ;)
22:32.23BabelOcr2: which haret ?
22:33.15cr2Kevin's .
22:33.38cr2what address should i assign to rndis ?
22:34.13cr2we will see how good is suse in wince5 rndis support :)
22:35.42BabelOi ll look for same thinng
22:37.12cr2static address ?
22:37.42BabelOcr2: yes wince adress something like 192.169.2.2 for device eand 2.2 for hsot
22:37.51BabelOhum 2.1 for host
22:39.12BabelOhmm not that
22:41.06BabelOcr2: i got it ;)
22:41.15BabelOyou need to start odccm
22:41.38BabelOandt assign this 169.254.2.2 to your host
22:41.51BabelOthen you can ping ba or athena at 169.254.2.1
22:41.56BabelOalways same ip
22:42.34cr2ok.
22:42.38cr2trying.
22:43.02BabelOcr2: i use pls command to check
22:44.05BabelOcr2: haret 0.5.0  ?
22:44.29cr2usb 3-3: new device found, idVendor=0bb4, idProduct=0b06
22:44.29cr2usb 3-3: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
22:44.29cr2usb 3-3: Product: Generic RNDIS
22:44.29cr2usb 3-3: Manufacturer: HTC
22:44.32cr2yes.
22:45.02cr2<PROTECTED>
22:45.12cr2From 169.254.2.2: icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
22:45.23BabelOdo you have odccm ?
22:46.14BabelOcr2: for me i have
22:46.16BabelOeth1: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:10.2-2, RNDIS device, 80:00:60:0f:e8:00
22:46.57cr2eth1: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:10.3-3, RNDIS device, 80:00:60:0f:e8:00
22:46.57cr2eth1 renamed to eth3
22:47.33cr2Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR   TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
22:47.39cr2eth3   1500   0       0 1871765      0      0      44      0      0      0 BMRU
22:54.40BabelOcr2: do you remember trace command ? ;)
22:55.29cr2looking in the logs.
22:55.39cr2ba has ahi dev: 2 3 5
22:57.14cr2addlist mmutrace 0x48000000 1024*1024 ;
22:57.31cr2addlist mmutrace 0x4c200000 1024*1024 ; ibit irqs 38 ; set permissivemmutrace 1 ; wi 30
22:57.48cr2what is the ati reg addr on ba ?
22:58.32BabelO<PROTECTED>
22:58.57BabelOvirtual 0xab000000
22:59.00cr20xab000000
22:59.04cr2ok.
22:59.27cr2so addlist mmutrace 0xab000000 1024*1024
22:59.34cr2set permissivemmutrace 1
22:59.38cr2wi 30
22:59.42cr2:)
22:59.45cr2watch the flood.
23:01.19BabelOHaRET(19)# ibit irqs 26
23:01.19BabelOBit 0 is past max found of 0
23:19.12cr2ok, good night.
23:19.32BabelOgood night

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