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06:59.59goxboxlivegood morning
07:02.09paulproteusGood night!
07:04.45goxboxlivepaulproteus: :-) WHere do u live?
07:09.50paulproteusgoxboxlive, San Francisco.
07:10.04goxboxliveahh norway here :-)
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07:43.04corvusHi all
07:43.15corvusgoxboxlive
07:43.20corvusa question
07:44.13goxboxlivehi
07:44.27corvusim a semi-hard user of linux, scripting and so... but im not a developer
07:44.52corvusI had installed X11 and opieII in universal
07:45.00corvusany way i can help?
07:45.35corvusnow i have opieII, but can install x11 if necesary
07:46.06goxboxlivecorvus: yes, you could check out sound on universal why it's not working with OpieII
07:46.35corvusany clues now about it?
07:49.35goxboxlivehmm no
07:49.38goxboxlivei havent
07:50.17corvusok... i will see
07:50.26goxboxliveThe sound works in console mode, but not from OpieII . Forget about Helix, it's not working on other devices either, but check out clock/alarm
07:50.30corvusany more needs?
07:50.32goxboxlivei shoudl read a wav file
07:50.43goxboxliveNo, we realy need sound working
07:51.33corvusok, i will try to make it work... see you...
07:55.27goxboxlivethx
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08:38.39BabelOhi
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08:57.42corvushi
08:57.44corvus:P
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09:15.09goxboxlivehi BabelO
09:18.11BabelOgoxboxlive: i hope i can send you a small test app soon, but you need to compile some more ipk from OE
09:19.03goxboxliveare you thninking about the IM ?
09:33.14corvushi all...
09:33.46corvusgoxboxlive: i just make a test with the wavs in opieII
09:34.17corvusi can play alarm.wav (8bit), but i cant play phonering (16bits)
09:34.36corvusif i change it to 8 bits its plays well in dsp
09:34.46corvusso hardware is functioning well
09:35.01corvusbut we must use 8 bit waves
09:35.07goxboxlivecorvus: realy? How do you test it?
09:35.18corvuscat file.wav > /dev/dsp
09:35.24goxboxliveohh from ssh?
09:35.27corvusyes
09:35.48goxboxliveok, i i know that is working, but the alarm doesnt work in Qtopia
09:36.04corvusmaybe dont send it to dsp correctly
09:36.06goxboxlivedo you get an alarm when you have set the clock to riing
09:36.19corvusno, only test hardware
09:36.24goxboxliveprobably, but could you find out how it should be done?
09:36.43corvusi must go now, but i will test more this weekend
09:37.02corvusi dont know qtopia so must read a little :P
09:38.16corvussee you
09:39.31corvusmust go, if you wants some more write here... i will check the irc logs later.
09:39.34corvusbye all
09:41.07goxboxliveok
09:59.12BabelOgoxboxlive: yes for IM you need xml2 / gnutls / telepathy / tapioca from OE, for telepathy there are various connection manager, but just one in OE, i compile a big one by hang it is libpurple with telepathy-haze
10:32.44BabelOs/hang/hand/
10:35.00goxboxliveok
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11:27.24mbhi, I walked around the net and I found howto to set openmoko on htc magician...then, my question is: is it possible to install it on the HTC tytn II (KAISER)? How? is there any howto
11:27.28mb*?
11:36.34goxboxlivemb: no
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11:40.51mbgoxboxlive: thanks for the answer man, but...it is reffered to my firt question or second?
11:41.01goxboxliveboth
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15:33.18`TriaD`hi all, bluetooth on htcuniversal don't work for me; why? On the site it's marked as "work"...
15:54.50BabelO:( hciattach
15:57.45cr2BabelO: hi
15:57.57BabelOhi cr2
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16:00.09cr2BabelO: need some help with windows :)
16:05.30BabelOcr2: on what ? :) windows, you have a virtual machine ?
16:13.41cr2no, with SetPixel
16:14.13cr2do you know how to set the pixels directly in a device-dependent bitmap ?
16:14.58cr2it's >10 years ago that i've read Petzold ;-)
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16:22.32BabelOcr2 : i m not really familar with MFC :(
16:22.40BabelOi go back to home
16:22.40BabelObbl
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17:15.11BabelOcr2: i m back
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17:23.55goxboxlivehi
17:41.36cr2BabelO: it's not MFC, it's win3.1 api ;)
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18:19.50cr2YOU CAN RECOVER FROM MICROSOFT AND ITS SUPPLIERS ONL
18:19.50cr2Y DIRECT DAMAGES UP TO U.S. $5.00
18:20.17BabelOcr2: it is win 3.1 maintenance contract ? ;)
18:20.23BabelOwarrranty lol
18:20.40cr2It also applies even if Microsoft knew or should have known about the possibility of the damages.
18:21.45cr2no. i wanted to extract the newer ms .ttf fonts from a free download
18:21.55cr2and run 'strings -el EULA'
18:23.37cr2hehe. they put .cab into .cab
18:24.12cr2running fontforge on them.
18:24.37cr2BabelO: can we convince qtopia to use .ttf ?
18:26.02BabelOcr2: they already use ttf
18:26.34cr2.qpf2 ?
18:27.05BabelOcr2: but last time you say me, i put ttf on my device and it works ...
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18:27.36cr2hmm. how do you know it ?
18:28.04cr2i see .qpf2 opened and then .ttf
18:28.14BabelOah maybe
18:28.18cr2remove all .qpf2
18:28.24cr2then i'll trust you :)
18:28.41BabelOcr2: i just bought a new sd card, last one die
18:29.11BabelOcr2: my new one have a warranty of 20 years, i buy it at supermarket  for 24 euros
18:30.43cr216GB ? :)
18:30.57BabelOcr2: just 2GB
18:31.14BabelOlast one was 1GB for 24 euros last year
18:31.34BabelOi like the warranty :)
18:31.48BabelOit is to boot BA
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18:36.23cr2ok.
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18:38.14cr2lol
18:38.19cr2You may not... distribute the software with any non-Microsoft software that may use the software to enhance its functionality
18:38.31BabelOlol
18:39.06BabelOdon't help us to make better software ;)
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20:07.16cr2BabelO: did you get nk.exe ?
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20:55.04wildhi guys, i have 2 questions for you.... anyone can help me?
20:57.00wildnobody?
21:00.03cr2hi wild
21:02.34wildhi...
21:02.38wildcr2 ;)
21:03.09cr2what question do you want to ask ? :)
21:03.21wildi'm student... i work in my university...
21:04.01wildso.. we try to install familiar and/or openmoko in one BlueAngel
21:04.18wildwe want to use wifi...
21:04.28cr2ok
21:04.37cr2familiar is a bit outdated
21:04.38wildanyone have experience??? sorry for my bad english
21:04.54cr2wifi works, but there are some tricks.
21:05.01wildfamiliar is outdated.. so ... what you suggest cr2?
21:05.15cr2BabelO should know better, but he doesn't reply ;)
21:05.43cr2something based on angstrom
21:05.45wildBabelO work with wifi and/or gpe/opie?
21:06.04cr2he is playing with opie2 aka qtopia4
21:06.17wildwhat you think about openmoko?
21:06.20cr2he said wifi works too, but you need the pcmcia-tools
21:06.33cr2openmoko supports wifi ?
21:06.44wildcr2.... woud you work in my university tema ??? eheheh ;)
21:07.10cr2lol
21:08.09wildi see on google..... some irc log.... your name :) i remember cr2
21:08.14wildhowever...
21:08.26cr298% of things work, but they are not in a very polished state.
21:08.45cr2well, i have blueangel too.
21:09.05cr2just busy with other interesting things.
21:09.11cr2like gps and athena
21:09.30wildyou suggest BabelO with opie2 and pcmcia-tool.... goodd..... you have blueangel? what kind of blueanger? i have i-mate pda2k
21:10.06cr2only boardid matters
21:10.22cr2which boardid do you have ?
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21:11.15wildehmmmm... i dont'know where i find it!...... i have this pda yestarday... and today i searching for linux ;)
21:11.46wildi try to search on google : babelo... but where i can find it?
21:11.52cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelBoardIDs
21:12.44cr2iMate PDA2K can be 5 or 6 ;-)
21:13.03wildone moment..
21:13.44wilds.... cr2 do you have one howto to install linux and use wifi? on blueangel?..... i can't find Babel0
21:15.32cr2~ping BabelO
21:15.32aptpong BabelO
21:15.38wildcr2: Blue Angel Board ID 0x5
21:15.50cr2you are lucky
21:15.57wildeheheh why?
21:16.26cr20x6 LCD does not resume from sleep properly
21:16.35cr2http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel
21:16.57cr2this is the main page, but i'm not quite sure if it's uptodate
21:18.17wildyes i knwo that site..... i see te board with ssh into familiar linux but......gpe or opei don't work and wifii too... so what can i do? cr2?
21:19.36cr2wait for BabelO
21:19.56cr2or read the logs
21:20.22cr2he has told me once where to pick the qtopia4 image and how to activate wifi
21:21.17wildeheheheh... there isn't an howto?........ i know listen a lot of peple is hard for you, but i must finish this work in December! i have no time  :(
21:24.15cr2what do you need to do ?
21:25.24cr2[Fr Sep 21 2007] [17:47:32] <BabelO_>   with ipkg install pcmciautils_* and ipkg install pcmcia-3.2.8*
21:25.44wildwifi work! only this....... with familiar, openmoko, babelo is not important....... wifi with command line if necessary... but i appretiace gpe or opie2
21:26.01cr2[Fr Sep 21 2007] [17:47:44] <BabelO_>   then pccard eject to save power consumption
21:27.09cr2his server does not respond
21:27.18cr2here was the link
21:27.21cr2ftp://invite:invite@82.238.28.28:7147/Qtopia-4.3.0-blueangel.tar.bz2
21:28.03cr2but with the pcmciautils you don't really need the gui stuff
21:28.11cr2it should work from the command line
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21:30.32wildnow i have familiar 2.6.12. When i start it with haret.exe, the boot stop to: familiar login: ! END.... i log in and after iwconfig there isn't wifi card.... so now i find anyone help me to configure. I'm developer. i must write an application based on wifi mesh! your ftp link don't work. Sorry for bad english
21:32.03cr22.6.12 is old, and will not work, i've told you.
21:32.14cr2you need a recent kernel for wifi to work.
21:32.27wildok...... where i can find it?
21:32.51cr2maybe it makes sense to remove 2.6.12 together with familar completely. it's 2 years old.
21:33.10wildwhat 2 years????? woww
21:33.18wildi'm out of date ;)
21:33.31wildbut on internet i find this solutions! :(
21:33.46cr2http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel
21:34.56cr2i don't know which kernel was used in this image
21:35.24cr2but you can compile the kernel yourself from the handhelds.org CVS and replace the modules in this image
21:36.38wildmhhh...... ok... procedure to install kernels on top link is like familiar?
21:37.31cr2yes, you need to untar the image to some SD partition
21:40.32wildmhh ok... wifi could work with Angstrom-Qtopia-HTCBlueangel-4.3.0.tar.bz2  or with [   ]  Angstrom-gpephone-glibc-20070714-htcblueangel.rootfs.tar.bz2  ...even if you know..... or i must compile??
21:43.39cr2it doesn ot matter, unless you want to play with the phone.
21:43.51cr2the phone operation has some problems anyway.
21:46.25wildno, the phon functionaliti are no problem for me!....... i must bypass ;) i write an application that us voip on wifimesh
21:47.19wildcan you give me your email? cr2?... ;) if no problem for you! ;)
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21:55.36gtgtdear all, pardon a question. i tested Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20070111-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2
21:55.53gtgtarrives at calibration screen, but doesn't feel the stylus
21:56.29gtgton htc magician (qtek s110 actually)
21:56.48gtgtany hint? thanks
22:09.47wildhei cr2 or gtgt are you there?
22:12.21gtgtgtgt here
22:13.21gtgti tried with the Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070616-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2, calibration is not shown
22:17.07wildgtgt... i try to boot Angstrom-gpephone-glibc-20070714-htcblueangel.rootfs.tar.bz2 and in startup.txt root is set to: root=/dev/mmcblk0p2  but when i boot... don't find partition and show kernel panic.... can you help me?
22:17.30wildmy mmc have 2 partition obviusly
22:18.13gtgti'm no expert. what's last message b4 k panic?
22:19.04wilddon't remember.. i just hard reset my device.. however... somethig like this: root partiotion xxxxxx not find
22:19.13wildand after kernl panic
22:23.17gtgtmaybe logical vs primary partition?
22:23.22gtgtparts need be primary
22:24.23wildyes i do :( i think that kernel see my partition with different name...
22:24.45wildso when try to mount root partition, don't find it.. but i don't know hoe!
22:24.47wildhow
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22:39.04wildcr2 ?
22:39.15wildare you sleeping? ;)
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23:46.51wildi hope meet you tomorrow cr2!
23:46.56wildgood night!
23:49.35BabelOwild: always here ?

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