IRC log for #htc-linux on 20071018

00:01.37cr2hm. did not find what i've expected ;)
00:01.41cr2good night.
00:01.57BabelOgood night
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03:18.11ImCoKeMaN_anyone want to try decoding an embedded fat12 filesystem from an extrom.nb?
05:00.49paulproteusImCoKeMaN_, Should be pretty easy - doesn't FAT12 have a header?
05:01.01paulproteusThen you could just dd it out, mount it loopback, and cd around.
05:01.08paulproteusJust take a look in a hex editor.
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06:05.49goxboxlivegood morning
06:08.30paulproteusEvening! (-:
06:08.47paulproteusgoxboxlive, I just got myself a Magician and prep'd an SD card as per http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/README .
06:09.13paulproteusUsing the OpenMoko images there from Oct 7.  But, er, I can't find how to start haret.exe in Windows Mobile....
06:09.25paulproteusI can see it on the card from Linux, and it's vfat all right.
06:09.39goxboxlivejust hit it with your stylus
06:09.59paulproteusNo effect. (-;
06:10.15paulproteusSeriously, hit what?  When I insert the card, nothing seems to change on the phone.
06:10.17goxboxlivehmm stramge., Try out another Haret then
06:11.18paulproteusI mean, there's no indication that the Windows cares about the SD card at all except that the screen backlight turns on if it was off.
06:11.21paulproteusWhat should I expect to see?
06:11.27goxboxlivehttp://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071011.exe
06:12.08goxboxlivehave youi created a linux partition on your sd card?
06:13.09goxboxlivehttp://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux
06:13.42paulproteus<PROTECTED>
06:13.42paulproteus/dev/sdd1               1          11       11056+   b  W95 FAT32
06:13.42paulproteus/dev/sdd2              12         984      980784   83  Linux
06:14.02paulproteusThat's the card's fdisk -l output.
06:14.41paulproteusWhen I insert the card into the Windows-running phone, should I expect some UI response on the Windows side?
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06:17.20goxboxlivepaulproteus: Maybe magician dosnt like fat32 . Try format sdd1 to fat 16 instead. That's what i am using. What does your defualt.txt look like?
06:18.14paulproteusCan you give me your fdisk -l ?
06:19.40paulproteusThe Windows on the phone also doesn't seem to say anything when I put a WiFi SDIO card in.
06:20.16paulproteusFound it!
06:20.23paulproteusI think FAT16 in fdisk was the key.
06:20.42paulproteusF yeah, Linux booted. (-:
06:23.12paulproteusStill "waiting for network registration" in OpenMoko UI. (-:
06:25.44paulproteusBaby baby.
06:26.04paulproteusAll aboard for funtime!
06:42.26goxboxlive:-)
06:42.42goxboxliveI'm at work so i dont have my devices with me
06:45.29paulproteusgoxboxlive, Okay, so now I want fresher bits and the knowledge on how to build/update this stuff.
06:45.36paulproteusWill you be online in 8-10h?
06:46.33paulproteusWhich all devices do you have?  And who all seems to have a Magician 'round these parts?
06:54.21goxboxlivemagician and universal. i am not so acive here during worktime
07:06.22paulproteusgoxboxlive, What software do you run on those devices?
07:06.37paulproteusAs I said, I'm just using the binary OpenMoko builds from http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ .
07:07.06goxboxliveright
07:08.15goxboxlivedo mean distro/gui envirement or applications? I am using msotly Qtopia or Openmoko. I never installk applications since i use it only for developing. When i have phone woring in Qtopia for Magician i will start using it as my daily phone.
07:08.42paulproteusWhat sort of developing do you do?
07:08.54paulproteusAnd as for Qtopia, what is missing before the phone works?
07:09.00paulproteus(It already works in OM, after all)
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07:35.07goxboxlivedeveloping:bugfinder
07:35.45goxboxliveQtopia: The modem wouldnt respond when sending AT chat to it.
07:38.14paulproteusWhat image/build were you testing with?
07:38.43paulproteusWhat's bugfinder?
07:46.12goxboxliveImage?? Qtopia
07:46.42goxboxlivefinding bugs.
07:46.48goxboxlivebuild images and so
07:47.11paulproteusgoxboxlive, You built your own Qtopia root filesystem then?
07:47.45goxboxliveyes i build my own images
07:48.06goxboxlivehttp://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/
07:53.34paulproteusI want to use this Magician as my main phone (which sorta works already with OM), and I'm interested in bug fixing too.  I haven't compiled my own systems for them yet, though; is there a wiki page I should look at?
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08:58.09cr2goxboxlive: when i see the installation instructions, i want to write the mdoc-g3 driver ;-)
09:17.33goxboxlivecr2: So you are saying if i make a worse installation instruct you defently will make a mdoc-g3 driver?
09:22.26BabelO_lol
09:22.32BabelO_hi goxboxlive, cr2
09:23.22goxboxliveHI :-)
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09:50.50BabelO_goxboxlive : what did you use as  im protocols ? irc and after ?
09:52.11goxboxliveicq and msn
09:52.26BabelO_goxboxlive: ok
09:52.30goxboxlivealso skype, butr it's clpesd source
10:07.25cr2goxboxlive: no, i wanted to say that if i was a typical wince user, the linux installation looks like a real nightmare :)
10:07.59cr2compared to the uploading the wince rom.
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10:24.34goxboxlivecr2: yes it does, i totaly agree. So, then again, why cant you help me make it easier for the wince users :-)
10:25.39cr2the doc g3/4 driver is not so easy.
10:26.35cr2but i'll try to write a userspace program to read the doc like the IPL is doing. it should not be very difficult.
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10:44.25sameoguys, do you know if the hh.org kernels allow to use the universal GSM chip ?
11:00.40goxboxlivesameo: yes, we have phone working, aslo UMTS (3G)
11:00.58FoxdieOOH
11:01.03Foxdieboyoyoyoyoing :D
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11:11.31sameo_hmm...the AT commands go through ttyS0 (FFUART) and the data through the USB serial interface...is that correct ?
11:12.20goxboxliveyes
11:12.46goxboxlivettyUSB0
11:15.16sameo_goxboxlive:  are you using gsmd on the Universal ?
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11:16.22goxboxlivesameo_: when i use openmoko,
11:16.35goxboxlivewith Qtopai i use qtopia phone libs.
11:16.47goxboxliveto test UMTS i use cu
11:17.12goxboxlivei dont use it as a daily phone so i havent tested it so much, Just tested it to see if it works
11:17.33goxboxliveWith Qtopia we have even sms working
11:17.59sameo_goxboxlive:  so, there's no tarball somewhere that has GSM/UMTS working on the Universal, right ?
11:18.34goxboxlivesameo_: yes gsm working. But UMTS you have to set up manually
11:19.16goxboxlivehttp://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html
11:21.55sameo_yeah, I'm using the angstrom image from this page...
11:22.15sameo_but the usbserial module doesn't seem to be automatically loaded.
11:31.15goxboxliveok, use modprobe usbserial vendor=0x05c6 product=0x3197 and then update-modules
11:31.22goxboxliveit willb eloaded at next boot
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12:44.08sameo_goxboxlive:  arghh....no modprobe on the angstrom image
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13:17.03BabelO_sameo_ : not possible
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13:17.43sameo_BabelO_:  what's not possible ?
13:18.19BabelO_modprobe or insmod are always in image
13:20.10sameo_BabelO_:  you're right, they are, the root completion is proken...
13:20.16sameo_s/proken/broken/
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13:34.06Foxdierofl at the apt regexp corrector
13:34.33Foxdiesameo_: any luck? I have a universal and haven't done any UTMS testing for the last couple of months, been very busy at work :(
13:50.29cr2BabelO_: i've realized that there is a gsm kernel module for omap850 ?
13:51.00BabelO_cr2 : yes from tornado :)
13:51.16cr2the whole omap850 support seems to be a complete mess ;)
13:51.29BabelO_i look at the code it is like a fifo software management :)
13:51.43cr2unsystemized and completely separated efforts.
13:52.09BabelO_cr2 : i think yes it is close to fully work, we have to fix our kernel hang
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13:52.36BabelO_cr2 : i think you already have same issue on hermes
13:53.00cr2which one ?
13:53.06BabelO_cr2 : i  m not sure but a day you wrote that when you start ps axf or top your device freeze ?
13:53.28cr2it may be an usb problem there.
13:53.40cr2the biggest problem on hermes is the ATI SD controller ;)
13:53.46BabelO_ok
13:54.10cr2and on omap850 it's the gpio layout.
13:54.29cr2do you have the same SD gpio pins and tornado ?
13:54.42cr2pin assignment.
13:56.19cr2BabelO_: a lot of register dumps in the gsm driver may be done in haret.
13:57.23BabelO_cr2 : same as wizard sure, and wizard use same as tornado i think
13:58.19cr2ok, but why does it not work on prophet ?
14:01.44BabelO_cr2 : don't know, it seem pH5 have diferent gpio too on Herald
14:04.35cr2are the .dll exchangable between these phones ?
14:11.25cr2BabelO_: is it possible to find an intact wince kernel for omap850
14:41.39BabelO_cr2 : intact kernel ? hum i think best way is to send an email to some customizer guy at xanadux, i ll try to ask french guy
14:41.52BabelO_else you have my dumped nk.exe
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14:55.36cr2BabelO_: your nk has the sections broken.
14:57.20BabelO_:(
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16:16.55sameo_Foxdie:  not yet...do you have any pppd scripts that I could use ?
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17:10.49cr2hi tsdogs
17:11.36tsdogshi cr2
17:13.03cr2tsdogs: i've compiled an old version of gpsmapedit with wineg++
17:13.26tsdogs:) is it working?
17:13.41cr2so we can save to .rdm within a windows gui :)
17:13.45cr2yes, it works.#
17:13.55cr2i can send you the source.
17:14.19tsdogsok. I do have the maps :)
17:14.22tsdogssomewhere...
17:14.40cr2the only compatibility problem is strncasecmp vs stnicmp
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17:15.03tsdogswell not really a big issue.
17:15.04cr2the program can read .mp in
17:15.30cr2the .img needs some bugfixes to be on par with qlandkarte.
17:15.47tsdogsok.
17:17.39cr2ok, sent. it's a bit outdated though.
17:17.53tsdogsok
17:18.01cr2does not support routing parameters for example.
17:18.17cr2but it's good enough for the current .rdm
17:18.45tsdogsok
17:18.47tsdogsperfect
17:20.29cr2tsdogs: read that for a great fun :)
17:20.31cr2http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337903
17:23.01tsdogslol
17:23.24cr2does it compile fo you ?
17:24.05cr2BabelO tried to compile with msvc, but it failed on stncasecmp. don't know if he has fixed that.
17:25.22tsdogscr2: haven't tryed it yet. I don't have wineg++ installed :), but I do have msvc.
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17:27.20cr2tsdogs: add #ifndef _GNUC_ #define strncasecmp stnicmp
17:27.40goxboxlivecr2: hwo do i read a private message in irc?
17:27.41cr2s/stni/strni/
17:27.47goxboxlivehi btw
17:27.53cr2hi goxboxlive
17:27.59tsdogshi goxboxlive
17:28.08cr2i have gui for that here. but it does not work anyway ;)
17:28.26tsdogsI have gui, and it works with backlogs...
17:33.48cr2goxboxlive: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337903
17:35.05goxboxlivecr2: funny :-)
17:36.04cr2yes :)
17:36.24cr2tell that to htc.
17:39.46goxboxlivewe should post it at the htc wiki :-)
17:40.12tsdogscr2: vsnprintf undefined
17:41.59cr2tsdogs: #define vsnprintf _vsnprintf
17:44.42goxboxlivepH5: openmoko notice when i touch the screen, i gives a sound feedback  like a tap, but i doesnt handle if u know what i mean
17:51.04tsdogscr2: I think I better get wineg++ I have 55 errors with cannot convert from logn (etc etc) to int (etc, etc) ...
17:56.49cr2strange.
17:57.00cr2wineg++ is in wine-dev
17:57.18cr2btw, does not work on amd64
17:57.28tsdogsno I tryed with msvc
17:57.29tsdogsha
17:57.32cr2i'm using the version compiled on amd32
17:57.41cr2-m32 did not help
17:57.50cr2maybe i'm missing something.
17:58.01tsdogsok I'll try it later when I'm home then.
17:58.08cr2ok
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18:12.16pH5goxboxlive: that's because stupid neod listens directly on the input event device. did you start kdrive 1.4 with the -mouse tslib option like I showed you?
18:12.33Foxdiesameo_: sorry no
18:13.08tsdogscr2: GPSMapEdit.rc:302:16: Error: syntax error
18:13.17goxboxlivepH5: is that also for x11-image?
18:13.22tsdogsthis is on amd64 thoguh
18:13.32sameo_Foxdie:  ok...just a question though, at which speed do you set ttyUSB0 ? any idea ?
18:13.51Foxdiegoxboxlive should know
18:14.01pH5goxboxlive: sure, that's a change in 1.4, whichever distro/image you use.
18:14.37goxboxliveok
18:14.45goxboxlivethx pH5 i'll test it out
18:16.03sameo_goxboxlive:  for UMTS on the universal, any idea to which speed I should set ttyUSB0 ?
18:17.30goxboxlivepH5: yes that did the trick. Why isent it added to OE yet?
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18:25.06goxboxlivewe still cant hangpo calls with x11 and mokodialer
18:25.13goxboxlivesameo_: i dont remember
18:25.44pH5goxboxlive: because we'd need to add a mechanism that checks whether kdrive is <= 1.3 or >= 1.4. angstrom 2007.x still uses 1.3.
18:26.36goxboxlivesameo_: 115200
18:26.47goxboxliveaaah i c
18:26.54goxboxliveok i only add it localy then
18:27.54cr2tsdogs: which wine version do you have ?
18:28.26tsdogs0.9.46
18:29.04cr2tsdogs: works with 0.9.22, does not work with 0.9.47. must be the wrc bug.
18:29.24tsdogsok
18:49.33sameo_goxboxlive:  thx
18:49.47goxboxlivesameo_: wc
19:03.35BabelOcr2: i got a fresh wm6 rom for my artemis, i m now able to share its gps to test roadmap
19:11.06cr2BabelO: can you split the fresh rom ?
19:12.49BabelOcr2: no :( it is a ROM upgrade from HTC eClub
19:16.17cr2?
19:16.27cr2is it an .nbh file ?
19:16.58BabelOcr2: no just .exe file, all in one, like we want to do for linux ;)
19:20.08cr2unzip ? unrar ? unshield ? cabextract ? wine ? :)
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19:22.07BabelOcr2: not sure, i ve sent an email to guy who manage wm6 rom at xanadux
19:22.44cr2ok.
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22:36.38cr2BabelO: are you already sleeping ?
22:36.53BabelOcr2: not already :)
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23:52.58BabelOgood night

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