00:01.37 | cr2 | hm. did not find what i've expected ;) |
00:01.41 | cr2 | good night. |
00:01.57 | BabelO | good night |
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03:18.11 | ImCoKeMaN_ | anyone want to try decoding an embedded fat12 filesystem from an extrom.nb? |
05:00.49 | paulproteus | ImCoKeMaN_, Should be pretty easy - doesn't FAT12 have a header? |
05:01.01 | paulproteus | Then you could just dd it out, mount it loopback, and cd around. |
05:01.08 | paulproteus | Just take a look in a hex editor. |
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06:05.49 | goxboxlive | good morning |
06:08.30 | paulproteus | Evening! (-: |
06:08.47 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, I just got myself a Magician and prep'd an SD card as per http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/README . |
06:09.13 | paulproteus | Using the OpenMoko images there from Oct 7. But, er, I can't find how to start haret.exe in Windows Mobile.... |
06:09.25 | paulproteus | I can see it on the card from Linux, and it's vfat all right. |
06:09.39 | goxboxlive | just hit it with your stylus |
06:09.59 | paulproteus | No effect. (-; |
06:10.15 | paulproteus | Seriously, hit what? When I insert the card, nothing seems to change on the phone. |
06:10.17 | goxboxlive | hmm stramge., Try out another Haret then |
06:11.18 | paulproteus | I mean, there's no indication that the Windows cares about the SD card at all except that the screen backlight turns on if it was off. |
06:11.21 | paulproteus | What should I expect to see? |
06:11.27 | goxboxlive | http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071011.exe |
06:12.08 | goxboxlive | have youi created a linux partition on your sd card? |
06:13.09 | goxboxlive | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux |
06:13.42 | paulproteus | <PROTECTED> |
06:13.42 | paulproteus | /dev/sdd1 1 11 11056+ b W95 FAT32 |
06:13.42 | paulproteus | /dev/sdd2 12 984 980784 83 Linux |
06:14.02 | paulproteus | That's the card's fdisk -l output. |
06:14.41 | paulproteus | When I insert the card into the Windows-running phone, should I expect some UI response on the Windows side? |
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06:17.20 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: Maybe magician dosnt like fat32 . Try format sdd1 to fat 16 instead. That's what i am using. What does your defualt.txt look like? |
06:18.14 | paulproteus | Can you give me your fdisk -l ? |
06:19.40 | paulproteus | The Windows on the phone also doesn't seem to say anything when I put a WiFi SDIO card in. |
06:20.16 | paulproteus | Found it! |
06:20.23 | paulproteus | I think FAT16 in fdisk was the key. |
06:20.42 | paulproteus | F yeah, Linux booted. (-: |
06:23.12 | paulproteus | Still "waiting for network registration" in OpenMoko UI. (-: |
06:25.44 | paulproteus | Baby baby. |
06:26.04 | paulproteus | All aboard for funtime! |
06:42.26 | goxboxlive | :-) |
06:42.42 | goxboxlive | I'm at work so i dont have my devices with me |
06:45.29 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Okay, so now I want fresher bits and the knowledge on how to build/update this stuff. |
06:45.36 | paulproteus | Will you be online in 8-10h? |
06:46.33 | paulproteus | Which all devices do you have? And who all seems to have a Magician 'round these parts? |
06:54.21 | goxboxlive | magician and universal. i am not so acive here during worktime |
07:06.22 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, What software do you run on those devices? |
07:06.37 | paulproteus | As I said, I'm just using the binary OpenMoko builds from http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ . |
07:07.06 | goxboxlive | right |
07:08.15 | goxboxlive | do mean distro/gui envirement or applications? I am using msotly Qtopia or Openmoko. I never installk applications since i use it only for developing. When i have phone woring in Qtopia for Magician i will start using it as my daily phone. |
07:08.42 | paulproteus | What sort of developing do you do? |
07:08.54 | paulproteus | And as for Qtopia, what is missing before the phone works? |
07:09.00 | paulproteus | (It already works in OM, after all) |
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07:35.07 | goxboxlive | developing:bugfinder |
07:35.45 | goxboxlive | Qtopia: The modem wouldnt respond when sending AT chat to it. |
07:38.14 | paulproteus | What image/build were you testing with? |
07:38.43 | paulproteus | What's bugfinder? |
07:46.12 | goxboxlive | Image?? Qtopia |
07:46.42 | goxboxlive | finding bugs. |
07:46.48 | goxboxlive | build images and so |
07:47.11 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, You built your own Qtopia root filesystem then? |
07:47.45 | goxboxlive | yes i build my own images |
07:48.06 | goxboxlive | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/ |
07:53.34 | paulproteus | I want to use this Magician as my main phone (which sorta works already with OM), and I'm interested in bug fixing too. I haven't compiled my own systems for them yet, though; is there a wiki page I should look at? |
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08:58.09 | cr2 | goxboxlive: when i see the installation instructions, i want to write the mdoc-g3 driver ;-) |
09:17.33 | goxboxlive | cr2: So you are saying if i make a worse installation instruct you defently will make a mdoc-g3 driver? |
09:22.26 | BabelO_ | lol |
09:22.32 | BabelO_ | hi goxboxlive, cr2 |
09:23.22 | goxboxlive | HI :-) |
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09:50.50 | BabelO_ | goxboxlive : what did you use as im protocols ? irc and after ? |
09:52.11 | goxboxlive | icq and msn |
09:52.26 | BabelO_ | goxboxlive: ok |
09:52.30 | goxboxlive | also skype, butr it's clpesd source |
10:07.25 | cr2 | goxboxlive: no, i wanted to say that if i was a typical wince user, the linux installation looks like a real nightmare :) |
10:07.59 | cr2 | compared to the uploading the wince rom. |
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10:24.34 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes it does, i totaly agree. So, then again, why cant you help me make it easier for the wince users :-) |
10:25.39 | cr2 | the doc g3/4 driver is not so easy. |
10:26.35 | cr2 | but i'll try to write a userspace program to read the doc like the IPL is doing. it should not be very difficult. |
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10:44.25 | sameo | guys, do you know if the hh.org kernels allow to use the universal GSM chip ? |
11:00.40 | goxboxlive | sameo: yes, we have phone working, aslo UMTS (3G) |
11:00.58 | Foxdie | OOH |
11:01.03 | Foxdie | boyoyoyoyoing :D |
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11:11.31 | sameo_ | hmm...the AT commands go through ttyS0 (FFUART) and the data through the USB serial interface...is that correct ? |
11:12.20 | goxboxlive | yes |
11:12.46 | goxboxlive | ttyUSB0 |
11:15.16 | sameo_ | goxboxlive: are you using gsmd on the Universal ? |
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11:16.22 | goxboxlive | sameo_: when i use openmoko, |
11:16.35 | goxboxlive | with Qtopai i use qtopia phone libs. |
11:16.47 | goxboxlive | to test UMTS i use cu |
11:17.12 | goxboxlive | i dont use it as a daily phone so i havent tested it so much, Just tested it to see if it works |
11:17.33 | goxboxlive | With Qtopia we have even sms working |
11:17.59 | sameo_ | goxboxlive: so, there's no tarball somewhere that has GSM/UMTS working on the Universal, right ? |
11:18.34 | goxboxlive | sameo_: yes gsm working. But UMTS you have to set up manually |
11:19.16 | goxboxlive | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html |
11:21.55 | sameo_ | yeah, I'm using the angstrom image from this page... |
11:22.15 | sameo_ | but the usbserial module doesn't seem to be automatically loaded. |
11:31.15 | goxboxlive | ok, use modprobe usbserial vendor=0x05c6 product=0x3197 and then update-modules |
11:31.22 | goxboxlive | it willb eloaded at next boot |
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12:44.08 | sameo_ | goxboxlive: arghh....no modprobe on the angstrom image |
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13:17.03 | BabelO_ | sameo_ : not possible |
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13:17.43 | sameo_ | BabelO_: what's not possible ? |
13:18.19 | BabelO_ | modprobe or insmod are always in image |
13:20.10 | sameo_ | BabelO_: you're right, they are, the root completion is proken... |
13:20.16 | sameo_ | s/proken/broken/ |
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13:34.06 | Foxdie | rofl at the apt regexp corrector |
13:34.33 | Foxdie | sameo_: any luck? I have a universal and haven't done any UTMS testing for the last couple of months, been very busy at work :( |
13:50.29 | cr2 | BabelO_: i've realized that there is a gsm kernel module for omap850 ? |
13:51.00 | BabelO_ | cr2 : yes from tornado :) |
13:51.16 | cr2 | the whole omap850 support seems to be a complete mess ;) |
13:51.29 | BabelO_ | i look at the code it is like a fifo software management :) |
13:51.43 | cr2 | unsystemized and completely separated efforts. |
13:52.09 | BabelO_ | cr2 : i think yes it is close to fully work, we have to fix our kernel hang |
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13:52.36 | BabelO_ | cr2 : i think you already have same issue on hermes |
13:53.00 | cr2 | which one ? |
13:53.06 | BabelO_ | cr2 : i m not sure but a day you wrote that when you start ps axf or top your device freeze ? |
13:53.28 | cr2 | it may be an usb problem there. |
13:53.40 | cr2 | the biggest problem on hermes is the ATI SD controller ;) |
13:53.46 | BabelO_ | ok |
13:54.10 | cr2 | and on omap850 it's the gpio layout. |
13:54.29 | cr2 | do you have the same SD gpio pins and tornado ? |
13:54.42 | cr2 | pin assignment. |
13:56.19 | cr2 | BabelO_: a lot of register dumps in the gsm driver may be done in haret. |
13:57.23 | BabelO_ | cr2 : same as wizard sure, and wizard use same as tornado i think |
13:58.19 | cr2 | ok, but why does it not work on prophet ? |
14:01.44 | BabelO_ | cr2 : don't know, it seem pH5 have diferent gpio too on Herald |
14:04.35 | cr2 | are the .dll exchangable between these phones ? |
14:11.25 | cr2 | BabelO_: is it possible to find an intact wince kernel for omap850 |
14:41.39 | BabelO_ | cr2 : intact kernel ? hum i think best way is to send an email to some customizer guy at xanadux, i ll try to ask french guy |
14:41.52 | BabelO_ | else you have my dumped nk.exe |
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14:55.36 | cr2 | BabelO_: your nk has the sections broken. |
14:57.20 | BabelO_ | :( |
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16:16.55 | sameo_ | Foxdie: not yet...do you have any pppd scripts that I could use ? |
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17:10.49 | cr2 | hi tsdogs |
17:11.36 | tsdogs | hi cr2 |
17:13.03 | cr2 | tsdogs: i've compiled an old version of gpsmapedit with wineg++ |
17:13.26 | tsdogs | :) is it working? |
17:13.41 | cr2 | so we can save to .rdm within a windows gui :) |
17:13.45 | cr2 | yes, it works.# |
17:13.55 | cr2 | i can send you the source. |
17:14.19 | tsdogs | ok. I do have the maps :) |
17:14.22 | tsdogs | somewhere... |
17:14.40 | cr2 | the only compatibility problem is strncasecmp vs stnicmp |
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17:15.03 | tsdogs | well not really a big issue. |
17:15.04 | cr2 | the program can read .mp in |
17:15.30 | cr2 | the .img needs some bugfixes to be on par with qlandkarte. |
17:15.47 | tsdogs | ok. |
17:17.39 | cr2 | ok, sent. it's a bit outdated though. |
17:17.53 | tsdogs | ok |
17:18.01 | cr2 | does not support routing parameters for example. |
17:18.17 | cr2 | but it's good enough for the current .rdm |
17:18.45 | tsdogs | ok |
17:18.47 | tsdogs | perfect |
17:20.29 | cr2 | tsdogs: read that for a great fun :) |
17:20.31 | cr2 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337903 |
17:23.01 | tsdogs | lol |
17:23.24 | cr2 | does it compile fo you ? |
17:24.05 | cr2 | BabelO tried to compile with msvc, but it failed on stncasecmp. don't know if he has fixed that. |
17:25.22 | tsdogs | cr2: haven't tryed it yet. I don't have wineg++ installed :), but I do have msvc. |
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17:27.20 | cr2 | tsdogs: add #ifndef _GNUC_ #define strncasecmp stnicmp |
17:27.40 | goxboxlive | cr2: hwo do i read a private message in irc? |
17:27.41 | cr2 | s/stni/strni/ |
17:27.47 | goxboxlive | hi btw |
17:27.53 | cr2 | hi goxboxlive |
17:27.59 | tsdogs | hi goxboxlive |
17:28.08 | cr2 | i have gui for that here. but it does not work anyway ;) |
17:28.26 | tsdogs | I have gui, and it works with backlogs... |
17:33.48 | cr2 | goxboxlive: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337903 |
17:35.05 | goxboxlive | cr2: funny :-) |
17:36.04 | cr2 | yes :) |
17:36.24 | cr2 | tell that to htc. |
17:39.46 | goxboxlive | we should post it at the htc wiki :-) |
17:40.12 | tsdogs | cr2: vsnprintf undefined |
17:41.59 | cr2 | tsdogs: #define vsnprintf _vsnprintf |
17:44.42 | goxboxlive | pH5: openmoko notice when i touch the screen, i gives a sound feedback like a tap, but i doesnt handle if u know what i mean |
17:51.04 | tsdogs | cr2: I think I better get wineg++ I have 55 errors with cannot convert from logn (etc etc) to int (etc, etc) ... |
17:56.49 | cr2 | strange. |
17:57.00 | cr2 | wineg++ is in wine-dev |
17:57.18 | cr2 | btw, does not work on amd64 |
17:57.28 | tsdogs | no I tryed with msvc |
17:57.29 | tsdogs | ha |
17:57.32 | cr2 | i'm using the version compiled on amd32 |
17:57.41 | cr2 | -m32 did not help |
17:57.50 | cr2 | maybe i'm missing something. |
17:58.01 | tsdogs | ok I'll try it later when I'm home then. |
17:58.08 | cr2 | ok |
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18:12.16 | pH5 | goxboxlive: that's because stupid neod listens directly on the input event device. did you start kdrive 1.4 with the -mouse tslib option like I showed you? |
18:12.33 | Foxdie | sameo_: sorry no |
18:13.08 | tsdogs | cr2: GPSMapEdit.rc:302:16: Error: syntax error |
18:13.17 | goxboxlive | pH5: is that also for x11-image? |
18:13.22 | tsdogs | this is on amd64 thoguh |
18:13.32 | sameo_ | Foxdie: ok...just a question though, at which speed do you set ttyUSB0 ? any idea ? |
18:13.51 | Foxdie | goxboxlive should know |
18:14.01 | pH5 | goxboxlive: sure, that's a change in 1.4, whichever distro/image you use. |
18:14.37 | goxboxlive | ok |
18:14.45 | goxboxlive | thx pH5 i'll test it out |
18:16.03 | sameo_ | goxboxlive: for UMTS on the universal, any idea to which speed I should set ttyUSB0 ? |
18:17.30 | goxboxlive | pH5: yes that did the trick. Why isent it added to OE yet? |
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18:25.06 | goxboxlive | we still cant hangpo calls with x11 and mokodialer |
18:25.13 | goxboxlive | sameo_: i dont remember |
18:25.44 | pH5 | goxboxlive: because we'd need to add a mechanism that checks whether kdrive is <= 1.3 or >= 1.4. angstrom 2007.x still uses 1.3. |
18:26.36 | goxboxlive | sameo_: 115200 |
18:26.47 | goxboxlive | aaah i c |
18:26.54 | goxboxlive | ok i only add it localy then |
18:27.54 | cr2 | tsdogs: which wine version do you have ? |
18:28.26 | tsdogs | 0.9.46 |
18:29.04 | cr2 | tsdogs: works with 0.9.22, does not work with 0.9.47. must be the wrc bug. |
18:29.24 | tsdogs | ok |
18:49.33 | sameo_ | goxboxlive: thx |
18:49.47 | goxboxlive | sameo_: wc |
19:03.35 | BabelO | cr2: i got a fresh wm6 rom for my artemis, i m now able to share its gps to test roadmap |
19:11.06 | cr2 | BabelO: can you split the fresh rom ? |
19:12.49 | BabelO | cr2: no :( it is a ROM upgrade from HTC eClub |
19:16.17 | cr2 | ? |
19:16.27 | cr2 | is it an .nbh file ? |
19:16.58 | BabelO | cr2: no just .exe file, all in one, like we want to do for linux ;) |
19:20.08 | cr2 | unzip ? unrar ? unshield ? cabextract ? wine ? :) |
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19:22.07 | BabelO | cr2: not sure, i ve sent an email to guy who manage wm6 rom at xanadux |
19:22.44 | cr2 | ok. |
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22:36.38 | cr2 | BabelO: are you already sleeping ? |
22:36.53 | BabelO | cr2: not already :) |
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23:52.58 | BabelO | good night |