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| 05:59.26 | lkthomas | hey guys |
| 05:59.35 | lkthomas | out of topic question |
| 05:59.38 | lkthomas | I am using WM6 now |
| 05:59.56 | lkthomas | whenever I try to dial a contact via call history, it direct me to individual contact |
| 06:00.00 | lkthomas | which is stupid |
| 06:00.13 | lkthomas | I want to just call the contact by call history |
| 06:00.28 | lkthomas | now I have to click and click to find out which number I should dial |
| 06:00.33 | lkthomas | WM2003 could do that |
| 06:00.46 | lkthomas | and I don't understand why WM6 actually turns out like that |
| 06:00.51 | lkthomas | anyone know how to correct this ? |
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| 09:06.19 | goxboxlive | good morning pH5 |
| 09:06.28 | pH5 | good morning |
| 09:06.40 | goxboxlive | pH5: are you able to build openmoko-image with angstrom-2008? |
| 09:10.24 | pH5 | goxboxlive: openmoko-devel-image, yes. my latest rebuild from scratch was 20071007, my latest incrementally built images were built yesterday. |
| 09:11.46 | goxboxlive | pH5: yes i am also able to build with 2007 but not with 2008 |
| 09:13.22 | pH5 | goxboxlive: I only use 2008.1 |
| 09:14.09 | goxboxlive | hmm |
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| 10:25.55 | dcordes | hi folks |
| 10:26.09 | dcordes | Kevin2: where do I get the latest version of haret? |
| 10:33.56 | dcordes | I found it on the hh wiki |
| 10:34.34 | dcordes | how do I know which "set MTYPE bla" to pick for hp ipaq h1930? |
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| 10:39.42 | lkthomas | anyone using wm6 ? |
| 10:51.18 | pH5 | dcordes: by looking at include/asm-arm/mach-types.h of your kernel |
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| 11:21.46 | dcordes | pH5: ok thanks |
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| 14:41.14 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 14:43.21 | pH5 | hi Kevin2 |
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| 14:46.36 | BabelO | hi Kevin2, pH5 |
| 14:46.42 | BabelO | hey goxboxlive |
| 14:47.30 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
| 14:47.41 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 14:47.55 | goxboxlive | BabelO: still @work? |
| 14:48.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive: not saturday :) week end, i finish big project at work now, it is cool |
| 14:48.42 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 14:49.04 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i manage to connect to google talk from blueangel |
| 14:49.16 | BabelO | now i neednice UI |
| 14:49.43 | goxboxlive | BabelO: great work :-) Yes, i like the smudge theme, something like that had been col |
| 14:50.00 | Kevin2 | Anyone try getting SIP protocol working on an htc phone? Could be useful for connecting to something like FWD. |
| 14:52.16 | BabelO | Kevin2: if i manage my application to fully work, then yes, it is ok |
| 14:52.34 | BabelO | Kevin2: i m able to connect to my provider SIP actually |
| 14:53.07 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Cool! |
| 14:53.41 | BabelO | i ve to finish project before end of november ;) |
| 14:55.19 | BabelO | Kevin2: maybe you can try Qtopia embedded voip, should work when we have sound ok... lol |
| 14:55.30 | pH5 | hm. I need to fix my sound driver to make recording work. |
| 14:55.50 | BabelO | pH5: yes agree with you, do it ;) i try on ba too then |
| 15:00.28 | Kevin2 | BabelO: These distro compile things really confuse me. Are there clear instruction somewhere for compiling qtopia? |
| 15:01.45 | BabelO | Kevin2: as goxboxlive say now there is a toolchain which embedded all precompiled libraries / header to build qtopia, then you need to check out htcphone from xanadux in devices folder. and do configure -device htcphone |
| 15:01.58 | BabelO | after 6 hours without problem it should work ;) |
| 15:02.44 | goxboxlive | pH5: ahh thats why it segfault then in Qtopia :-) |
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| 15:14.09 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i hope ljp found something in log i send to him |
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| 15:22.13 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes that would be good. You didnt send me copyof the logs, i am curious to see if it is the same as i have on MAg. |
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| 15:30.46 | gherdo | hi |
| 15:31.24 | gherdo | what if tux has red eyes while booting? |
| 15:31.43 | Kevin2 | gherdo: That is normal with old versions of haret. |
| 15:32.00 | gherdo | Kevin2: ok, i will try a new version |
| 15:32.13 | Kevin2 | I suggest you upgrade to a newer version of haret. http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071011.exe |
| 15:35.20 | gherdo | familiar gpe2.7 booting. Kevin2, you rock :) |
| 15:36.28 | Kevin2 | gherdo: Cool. What is your platform? |
| 15:37.58 | gherdo | Kevin2: htc blueangel |
| 15:40.09 | gherdo | Kevin2: ok, it is slow, but it works. |
| 15:41.07 | Kevin2 | I think BabelO has a BA. The familiar stuff is also a bit old - you might want to check out angstrom. |
| 15:41.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i think i send you a copy, wait i ll look |
| 15:41.40 | gherdo | Kevin2: angstrom? |
| 15:42.03 | Kevin2 | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ |
| 15:42.26 | BabelO | Kevin2: i m pretty sure you ve shortcut for all this link ;) |
| 15:43.03 | Kevin2 | BabelO: huh? |
| 15:43.27 | BabelO | Kevin2: yes you are really speed to copy / paste links ) |
| 15:43.45 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes u send me a copy, but without the LOG files |
| 15:44.08 | gherdo | Kevin2: thanks a lot |
| 15:44.10 | BabelO | ok, it was a bad forward |
| 15:44.13 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Heh. I have a few browser windows open on another screen. :-) |
| 15:44.23 | BabelO | Kevin2: ok |
| 15:45.23 | gherdo | so linux on htc is usable? |
| 15:45.55 | gherdo | d'oh! There is an xterm! |
| 15:46.39 | BabelO | gherdo: yes it is usable, depend on kernel version |
| 15:47.12 | BabelO | goxboxlive: how can i know which people build htc blueangel image at angstrom ? |
| 15:47.25 | gherdo | BabelO: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux not ok? 2.6.12 |
| 15:47.51 | BabelO | gherdo: yes, this page is not up to date now it is 2.6.21 |
| 15:48.05 | gherdo | BabelO: have you a link? |
| 15:48.13 | BabelO | Kevin2: there is also a prebuilt htcapache image |
| 15:48.46 | BabelO | gherdo: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/x11-GPE/ |
| 15:48.57 | gherdo | BabelO: many many thanks |
| 15:49.01 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Where? |
| 15:49.18 | BabelO | gherdo: you need a zImage for this one |
| 15:49.22 | BabelO | Kevin2: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/htcapache/ |
| 15:50.25 | gherdo | BabelO: so I have to compile zImage myself? |
| 15:54.00 | BabelO | gherdo: no, just take it from boot/ inside this image or http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/GPEphone/ |
| 15:54.16 | gherdo | ok |
| 15:58.32 | BabelO | goxboxlive: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/htcuniversal/20071003/ |
| 15:58.38 | BabelO | what is pimlico image ? |
| 15:59.16 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i have no idea |
| 16:01.30 | pH5 | BabelO: pimlico is what openedhand call their dates/contacts/etc. pim suite. I think it's an x11 image + pimlico apps. |
| 16:02.16 | BabelO | pH5: ok thanks, and do you know who build blueangel image ? |
| 16:11.17 | pH5 | BabelO: no idea, unfortunately. |
| 16:11.28 | pH5 | hopefully this will be done by an autobuilder some time soon |
| 16:12.00 | BabelO | pH5: ok, so i need to fix this old issue with ds1wm :( |
| 16:12.23 | BabelO | and maybe send a patch to add pcmcia package to bb package |
| 16:13.13 | pH5 | BabelO: yes, that's a good idea. |
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| 16:16.32 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i have builded today qtopia images. still no sound |
| 16:27.33 | BabelO | goxboxlive: :( |
| 16:27.40 | BabelO | goxboxlive: to you see my email ? |
| 16:28.20 | goxboxlive | no, i'll check now, thanks again :-) |
| 16:29.33 | goxboxlive | On universal i have to restart qtopia a lot to get modem working. It allways works at first boot, but if i restart Qtopia it doesnt work. Seems like i have to wait a few minutes to "cool" down the modem :-) |
| 16:33.57 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i see your modem responds with "0" and not "OK" as mu universal mode. Why do you set ATE0V0 .On universal i set "ATE0V1" |
| 16:34.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i try with both mode, but with atv1 it fails directly |
| 16:34.57 | BabelO | and qtopia should support both mode, but atv0 mode is buggy i correct some thing in code |
| 16:35.18 | goxboxlive | rihgt i see it now |
| 16:36.36 | BabelO | goxboxlive: how universal or magician works with openmoko ? atv0 mode ? |
| 16:37.46 | goxboxlive | AFAIR universal use: "ATE0V1" but magiciani have no idea,. I havent looked so deepth in to it since it is pH5 who manage all that. |
| 16:38.43 | pH5 | goxboxlive: with universal the problem was that the modem sometimes switched to V0 mode without telling. magician works fine in both V0 and V1. |
| 16:39.01 | pH5 | openmoko's gsmd uses V1 by default, and it seems qtopia, too. |
| 16:39.52 | goxboxlive | pH5: ok i see. Do you have any idea what the problem might be with the Qtopia phone libs on BA/Mag ? |
| 16:40.05 | BabelO | pH5: yes qtopia better use V1 but i see lot of bug to run V0 |
| 16:40.20 | goxboxlive | pH5: With Qtopia running on Magicna you can use it as your daily phone :-) |
| 16:42.16 | BabelO | goxboxlive: can you look at gmail and tell me if i m connected ? |
| 16:42.44 | goxboxlive | hold on |
| 16:43.21 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes u are online, did you get my IM? |
| 16:43.37 | goxboxlive | "Hello Qtopia" |
| 16:44.01 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no i need to code an UI now to get full IM |
| 16:44.17 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:44.19 | BabelO | i just test some libraries with a test program |
| 16:44.31 | BabelO | i use libpurple from pidgin program |
| 16:44.36 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:46.26 | goxboxlive | BabelO: what is AT+CBC? |
| 16:46.34 | goxboxlive | is it CellBroadCasting? |
| 16:46.39 | goxboxlive | mine is reporting : |
| 16:46.41 | goxboxlive | tChat : T : "ATE0V1" |
| 16:46.41 | goxboxlive | AtChat : F : |
| 16:46.41 | goxboxlive | AtChat : F : OK |
| 16:46.41 | goxboxlive | Modem : Multiplexing has been disabled. |
| 16:46.41 | BabelO | goxboxlive: at+cbc is battery monitor |
| 16:46.42 | goxboxlive | Modem : querying single modem plug-in "ficgta01vendor" |
| 16:46.44 | goxboxlive | AtChat : T : "AT+CBC" |
| 16:46.46 | goxboxlive | AtChat : Ficgta01CallVolume::Ficgta01CallVolume |
| 16:46.48 | goxboxlive | AudioState : Ficgta01VolumeService::Ficgta01VolumeService() |
| 16:46.50 | goxboxlive | No headset audio devices available... |
| 16:46.51 | BabelO | from old old phone not used in many htc phone |
| 16:46.52 | pH5 | goxboxlive: I have no idea about qtopia. |
| 16:46.52 | goxboxlive | QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range |
| 16:46.54 | goxboxlive | QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range |
| 16:46.56 | goxboxlive | QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range |
| 16:46.56 | pH5 | cbc is battery charge |
| 16:46.58 | goxboxlive | No IRDA devices found! |
| 16:47.00 | goxboxlive | AtChat : F : "+CBC: 0,100" |
| 16:47.02 | goxboxlive | AtChat : F : "OK" |
| 16:47.04 | goxboxlive | AtChat : T : "AT+CTZR=1" |
| 16:47.06 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:47.20 | goxboxlive | right |
| 16:47.27 | pH5 | it's useless on smartphones where the battery control is connected to the applications processor. |
| 16:47.48 | BabelO | goxboxlive: from where are these line ? |
| 16:53.47 | goxboxlive | when i start Qtopia on universal |
| 16:53.58 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok |
| 16:54.26 | goxboxlive | i just dont change the names to htcphone since there are so much developing on the ficphone right now. |
| 16:54.44 | goxboxlive | Allmost everyday there are some changes in the ficpohone device folder |
| 16:55.40 | goxboxlive | pH5: ok, so it should be disabled |
| 16:57.28 | goxboxlive | BabelO: could it be AT+CBC wich cause the segfault ? |
| 16:57.37 | goxboxlive | myabe we should try to disable it |
| 16:58.05 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no if you comment it then next command hang |
| 16:58.49 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:59.11 | goxboxlive | If you send AT+CFUN=1 instead of AT+CBC, have you tried that? |
| 16:59.37 | BabelO | yes same thing |
| 16:59.44 | goxboxlive | hmm ok |
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| 17:29.33 | goxboxlive | I dont think Qtopia is able to understand this: Maybe the operator number should be filtered out somehow |
| 17:29.36 | goxboxlive | AtChat : T : "AT+COPS=?" |
| 17:29.36 | goxboxlive | AtChat : N : "+CREG: 2" |
| 17:29.36 | goxboxlive | AtChat : N : "+CGREG: 2" |
| 17:29.37 | goxboxlive | AtChat : F : "+COPS: (2,,,"24201",3),(3,,,"24202",3),(3,,,"24203",1)" |
| 17:29.50 | goxboxlive | This gives me three operators |
| 17:30.12 | goxboxlive | but Qtopia (gui mode) says that no operators found |
| 17:30.21 | BabelO | goxboxlive: with a specific plugin yes |
| 17:32.22 | goxboxlive | ok, but the ficphone are able to see the operator name, why isent we |
| 17:33.15 | BabelO | goxboxlive: there is specific funtion in plugin to tell qtopia how to handle this input |
| 17:33.47 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok, wich plugin is that? Is it suplied in the ficphone or GP? |
| 17:35.36 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is line like primaryAtChat()->registerNotificationType( "%HTCCSQ:", this, SLOT(htccsq(QString)), true ); |
| 17:35.53 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok |
| 17:39.37 | goxboxlive | BabelO: isent that about signal quality? |
| 17:39.52 | BabelO | HTCCSQ yes it is |
| 17:40.14 | BabelO | goxboxlive: have you builded live image ? |
| 17:40.46 | goxboxlive | i found the line in the vendor file, but how to edit it to let it know the operator is for me unknown |
| 17:40.53 | goxboxlive | BabelO: what is LIVE image? |
| 17:42.26 | BabelO | goxboxlive: not on sdd card an single wince executable ;) |
| 17:43.04 | goxboxlive | just with zImage, haret and startup.txt |
| 17:43.28 | BabelO | no, with full image and qtopia inside |
| 17:43.45 | goxboxlive | BabelO: is that doable? |
| 17:43.54 | goxboxlive | How do i do that? |
| 17:44.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes, psokolovsky do it up to 28Mb i think, is it not that you speak with Kevin2 last evening ? |
| 17:45.22 | goxboxlive | BabelO: kevin2 mention something for me, i saw there where some python stuff in it, but i had no idea how to do it. But, a Qtopia image is over 64MB |
| 17:45.50 | goxboxlive | mine Qtopia image is 79,5MB |
| 17:47.09 | goxboxlive | hmm i'm not able to receive sms anymore. The ATCHAT notify that i have a incomming sms, but QTOPIA (gui) doesnt respond at all |
| 17:47.40 | BabelO | goxboxlive: protocol supported by my app should be gg, msn, yahoo, zephyr, oscar, icq, irc, novell, myspace, simple, ... i don't know half of this ;) |
| 17:47.58 | goxboxlive | irc too, that's great BabelO |
| 17:48.56 | BabelO | goxboxlive: irc is a bit difficult, i don't know how to show this in an interactive UI, if you have any idea i take it ;) |
| 17:51.07 | BabelO | you can be my beta tester once UI have wizard and works |
| 17:51.10 | goxboxlive | BabelO: whatabout how opie-irc solved it. Have you checked how it's done there? |
| 17:51.34 | goxboxlive | BabelO: of course i will :-) |
| 17:51.35 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is just a big listbox with all inside :( |
| 17:51.52 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:53.54 | goxboxlive | i cant find any documentation about the live image |
| 17:54.22 | Kevin2 | goxboxlive: With latest haret to build a boot bundle you use: ./tools/make-bootbundle.py -o myboot.exe out/haret.exe zImage rootfs.cgz docs/linload.txt |
| 17:54.53 | BabelO | Kevin2: what is cgz ? |
| 17:55.03 | BabelO | Kevin2: cpio gz ? |
| 17:55.07 | Kevin2 | In the past, one would use: make linload KERNEL=zImage INITRD=rootfs.cgz SCRIPT=docs/linload.txt |
| 17:55.25 | Kevin2 | BabelO: an initrd. I usually use cpio.gz for initrd, but you can use anything you like. |
| 17:55.54 | goxboxlive | Kevin2: is there any restriction in size of the image? |
| 17:56.06 | BabelO | Kevin2: any thing ? tar.gz ? i always forgot cpio command line :( |
| 17:56.33 | Kevin2 | goxboxlive: Well, it needs to be able to fit into ram so that linux can run with it there.. |
| 17:56.54 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Any valid initrd format - cpio.gz for initramfs format, or jffs2, or ext2, or ext3, etc. |
| 17:57.10 | BabelO | Kevin2: ok |
| 17:57.31 | goxboxlive | ok then so thats all, i'll try it. it will be a killer for wince users wich hates linux filesystem creation |
| 17:58.06 | Kevin2 | goxboxlive: I think psokolovsky had 28MB images running. I couldn't get 15MB images to work for me, however. (I was trying to use initramfs images - you'll probably get further if you try something like jffs2 images.) |
| 17:59.05 | goxboxlive | BabelO: just add it to your local.conf |
| 17:59.18 | goxboxlive | where u have tar.bz2 |
| 17:59.24 | Kevin2 | BabelO: psokolovsky put together a bunch of scripts in the haret cvs -- see tools/Makefile.liveramdisk -- but I really couldn't figure them out. |
| 17:59.51 | BabelO | Kevin2: ok i ll look later, trying to build telepathy-haze before |
| 17:59.53 | goxboxlive | ok, where is he?i havent seen him for a while |
| 18:40.37 | goxboxlive | Kevin2: should i only have 'ramboot' in the scriptfile? |
| 18:40.41 | goxboxlive | no rootfs? |
| 18:41.58 | Kevin2 | goxboxlive: You generally only need to have "ramboot". However, you can also set the linux command line and/or run other commands. |
| 18:42.32 | goxboxlive | ok |
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| 18:59.05 | goxboxlive | Kevin2: it says "please append a corrcet root= boot option. I havet writen anything about 'root' in command line. Here is my startup script: set CMDLINE "rootdelay=1 console=tty0 fbcon=rotate:1" |
| 18:59.05 | goxboxlive | ramboot |
| 18:59.16 | goxboxlive | and i am using jffs2 riitfs image |
| 18:59.25 | goxboxlive | s/riitfs/rootfs/ |
| 19:00.59 | Kevin2 | goxboxlive: I'm not sure. Do you have jffs2 support compiled into your kernel? |
| 19:01.48 | goxboxlive | ahh that might be. I'll check, thx. But my startupscript looks ok right? I am trying to boot it from my sd card and that's ok too? |
| 19:03.11 | Kevin2 | Make sure you also have initrd support enabled. As to the command-line, I'm not entirely sure as I haven't tested jffs2 as an initrd. |
| 19:03.53 | goxboxlive | right, but i dont need "set initrd "rdimage" " in my startup script, or? |
| 19:04.38 | Kevin2 | Right. Don't run "set initrd xyz" from your script. The initrd is set when you build the boot bundle, not from a variable. |
| 19:04.57 | goxboxlive | ok thx |
| 19:05.05 | Kevin2 | You do have "ramboot" in your script, right? |
| 19:05.10 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 19:05.23 | pH5 | Kevin2: I think jffs2 as initrd is not possible, psokolovsky used a jffs2 image file embedded into an initramfs that is copied to /dev/mtdram during boot, didn't he? |
| 19:05.34 | goxboxlive | centrino:~# cat /media/linuxserver/homes/cvs/haret/startup.txt |
| 19:05.34 | goxboxlive | set CMDLINE "rootdelay=1 console=tty0 fbcon=rotate:1" |
| 19:05.34 | goxboxlive | ramboot |
| 19:06.24 | Kevin2 | pH5: Ughh. I don't know. |
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| 19:08.41 | Kevin2 | goxboxlive: I may have misunderstood what psokolovsky was doing - as pH5 warns - I haven't tried jffs2 initrd myself. :-/ |
| 19:09.46 | goxboxlive | Kevin2: ok, i try with an ext2 image then, that might work, because a ordinary tar.bz2 rootfs image wouldnt work right? |
| 19:10.10 | pH5 | goxboxlive: ext2 works, tar.bz2 does not. ext2.gz or cpio.gz is possible, though. |
| 19:10.26 | goxboxlive | pH5: thx |
| 19:10.33 | pH5 | as for jffs2, if I'm correct about how it was done, it's a bit complicated :) |
| 19:10.53 | goxboxlive | pH5: i'll stay away then :-) |
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| 19:20.00 | BabelO | hi tsdogs |
| 19:20.08 | tsdogs | hi BabelO |
| 19:20.51 | tsdogs | cr2 not around he? |
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| 19:43.35 | cr2 | hi |
| 19:43.46 | BabelO | hi cr2 :) |
| 19:44.04 | cr2 | hi BabelO |
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| 19:49.17 | cr2 | tsdogs: are you here ? |
| 19:49.26 | tsdogs | cr2: hi |
| 19:49.35 | cr2 | hi |
| 19:49.53 | cr2 | you have loaded a wrong map skin |
| 19:50.22 | tsdogs | cr2: I created the raster map, though it has problems with the palette. |
| 19:50.29 | tsdogs | cr2: what skin? |
| 19:50.37 | tsdogs | Polish ? |
| 19:50.38 | cr2 | Polish |
| 19:50.48 | cr2 | you have just renamed All |
| 19:50.59 | tsdogs | cr2: that's the one I got from u ... |
| 19:51.03 | cr2 | remove it, and grab Polish from CVS |
| 19:51.15 | tsdogs | cr2: maybe it was a test no idea... |
| 19:51.19 | tsdogs | ho ok |
| 19:51.21 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.53 | tsdogs | cr2: I think it was some test but am not sure anymore (have changed so many times :) |
| 19:53.03 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:54.45 | cr2 | tsdogs: can you commit your changes to CVS. if they don#t break the vector map :) |
| 19:55.29 | tsdogs | cr2: how do I fix the palette in the raster ? I'm trying with mogrify but am not really sure. |
| 19:56.09 | cr2 | pastebin the commands once again |
| 19:56.26 | tsdogs | cr2: the changes I sent the patch for? I have not migrated them to our roadmap yet, though maybe the patch would work |
| 19:57.17 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:57.26 | cr2 | what's wrong with the palette ? |
| 19:57.31 | tsdogs | cr2: http://www.pastebin.ca/735621 |
| 19:58.06 | tsdogs | well when I try to view it the first part is ok, but then the other images are fsked up with colors... |
| 19:58.14 | cr2 | remove -ot byte |
| 19:58.36 | tsdogs | when i do the gdalwarp it says taking color palette from "first image.tiff" |
| 19:58.49 | goxboxlive | hmm i am a little further on my way, but it panic |
| 19:58.51 | tsdogs | so what I guess is that the palette is not the same... |
| 19:59.10 | cr2 | tsdogs: use gdalinfo |
| 19:59.41 | goxboxlive | I am using ramdisk support in my kernel zImage, but still it complain about append root= |
| 20:00.24 | goxboxlive | It also say:. RAMDISK: incomplete write (-28 != 32768) 4194304. |
| 20:00.30 | goxboxlive | what the heck is wrong now |
| 20:01.05 | tsdogs | cr2: they do have a different palette ... |
| 20:01.49 | tsdogs | so i think I shoud first do gif2tif conversion, create a common palette, and then start doing gdal_translate and so on... |
| 20:02.03 | cr2 | tsdogs: strange. remove -ot byte first |
| 20:02.12 | tsdogs | ok |
| 20:02.14 | goxboxlive | btw i am using a compressed ext2 image now |
| 20:02.22 | cr2 | tiff uses 16bit palette entries afair. |
| 20:04.06 | goxboxlive | cr2: what is the name of the universals ram? is it /dev/ram0 ? |
| 20:04.14 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:04.30 | tsdogs | cr2: hmm, Copying color table from 0100.tif to new file |
| 20:04.40 | tsdogs | this is where it is wrong. |
| 20:04.43 | goxboxlive | ok maybe i should try mounting rootfs in it then |
| 20:05.59 | tsdogs | cr2: tif is using 256 color palette (at least for gdal) |
| 20:06.22 | cr2 | color. but each enty is 16bit |
| 20:07.20 | tsdogs | cr2: 4byte u mean ? |
| 20:07.46 | cr2 | TIFFSetField (out, TIFFTAG_COLORMAP, redp, grnp, blup); |
| 20:07.58 | cr2 | redp[i] = (u_int16_t) (SCALE (red)); |
| 20:08.00 | cr2 | ... |
| 20:08.06 | goxboxlive | hmm that didnt work either |
| 20:08.23 | goxboxlive | pH5: have you tested it before (live image)? |
| 20:08.56 | cr2 | tsdogs: the 8bit color value (red) is rescaled to 16bit to be put into the palette. |
| 20:08.57 | tsdogs | cr2: ok, but I have palette entryes like 122: 241,238,232,255 |
| 20:09.33 | cr2 | tsdogs: then gdalinfo rescales them back ? |
| 20:09.56 | tsdogs | cr2: could be. |
| 20:11.28 | pH5 | goxboxlive: no. I've only used initramfs images that mount mmcblk devices and pivot_root to them. |
| 20:11.31 | tsdogs | cr2: anyway the problem is that the gdalwarp is using the palette from the first image (is not merging the different palettes) so I see wrong colors... |
| 20:12.48 | tsdogs | cr2: I do this: const GDALColorEntry *colorEntry = palette->GetColorEntry(buffer[i]); |
| 20:13.03 | goxboxlive | pH5: yes i had to do it that way too. it mounted it on mmcblkp. |
| 20:13.07 | tsdogs | image.setPixel(x,y,qRgb(colorEntry->c1,colorEntry->c2,colorEntry->c3)); |
| 20:13.14 | cr2 | tsdogs: ok. there is some convert tool option (in imagemagick) to normalize the palettes. |
| 20:13.51 | tsdogs | I have tryed it though it failes if I do it to the tiff converted from gif with gdal_translate |
| 20:13.55 | cr2 | tsdogs: is it all pixel-based ? |
| 20:14.03 | tsdogs | cr2: yes. |
| 20:14.11 | cr2 | hmm. ok. |
| 20:16.30 | cr2 | -Jan 17 2007 |
| 20:16.30 | cr2 | -17:22:40 |
| 20:16.30 | cr2 | -Copyright (c) 1998-2006 High Tech Computer Corporation |
| 20:16.30 | cr2 | +Jul 08 2007 |
| 20:16.31 | cr2 | +03:59:45 |
| 20:16.31 | cr2 | +Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Olipro & HTC - Hard-SPL |
| 20:16.53 | tsdogs | cr2: I get: mogrify: 0110.tif: unknown field with tag 42112 (0xa480) encountered. `TIFFReadDirectory'. |
| 20:17.57 | cr2 | it's ok. these are geotiff tags. |
| 20:18.08 | cr2 | be careful not to destroy them. |
| 20:18.23 | cr2 | -Windows CE Kernel for ARM (Thumb Enabled) Built on Dec 12 2006 at 16:36:47 |
| 20:18.26 | cr2 | +Windows CE Kernel for ARM (Thumb Enabled) Built on May 31 2007 at 17:47:23 |
| 20:18.54 | cr2 | -GSM version:32.65.7020.09H |
| 20:18.57 | cr2 | +GSM version:32.83.7020.20H |
| 20:19.00 | tsdogs | cr2: ok but mogrify failes, so probably I should first convert gif to tiff, then set common palette, the add the geotif info and then create the raster ... |
| 20:19.29 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:19.31 | tsdogs | ok |
| 20:19.34 | cr2 | +V03USB: 1583 on board |
| 20:19.40 | cr2 | i dont' have it... |
| 20:20.06 | cr2 | no. it's still there, but a bit later. |
| 20:20.52 | cr2 | -SOhcdPdd - Init called: USBHRegs:380000 CLKMGRRegs:370000 |
| 20:20.52 | cr2 | +SOhcdPdd - Init called: USBHRegs:3A0000 CLKMGRRegs:390000 |
| 20:21.29 | cr2 | -[QCTUSB]PCD_INIT:RxBufLen=131072 |
| 20:21.29 | cr2 | +[VIRSERDATA]PCD_INIT:RxBufLen=131072 |
| 20:22.19 | cr2 | probably they have forgot to change the comments. |
| 20:22.30 | cr2 | -AHI: ace.cpp(124) - ACE driver version: 2.30.061124.87332 |
| 20:22.30 | cr2 | +AHI: ace.cpp(124) - ACE driver version: 2.30.070411.96325 |
| 20:25.19 | cr2 | the wince kernel is a bit buggy :) |
| 20:25.22 | cr2 | -!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!There is no clear CPLD intr 20 |
| 20:26.08 | cr2 | LcmInit_Samsong(): bit2 =0, bit4 =1, |
| 20:26.16 | goxboxlive | Nope, no that didnt work for me. |
| 20:28.35 | cr2 | +CHW::Initialize ChipId(0x70) is 158230- signalling H/W reset |
| 20:29.02 | cr2 | [K] ISP1582 Set the Device add as =0x1 |
| 20:30.04 | cr2 | the ATI driver is a big buggy too. |
| 20:30.06 | cr2 | Data Abort: Thread=86f9b400 Proc=80371880 'gwes.exe' |
| 20:30.07 | cr2 | -AKY=00008011 PC=01d3b9ac(ace_ddi.dll+0x000eb9ac) RA=2096af6c(gwes.exe+0x0095af6c) BVA=51600a52 FSR=00000003 |
| 20:30.07 | cr2 | -Data Abort: Thread=86f9b400 Proc=80371880 'gwes.exe' |
| 20:46.04 | cr2 | Kevin2: what do you think about ATI SD ? |
| 20:58.45 | goxboxlive | What is this: |
| 20:59.10 | goxboxlive | Block device required switch_root: bad newroot /mnt |
| 20:59.28 | goxboxlive | i am trying to boot with initramfs |
| 21:00.28 | goxboxlive | i can boot with initramfs if i have a rootfile system on my sd card, but the i doint see the point of having this initramfs included in my exe file |
| 21:01.06 | goxboxlive | I thought a live image could run a full image from flash memory instead of the SD card |
| 21:05.23 | goxboxlive | pH5: i want to copy my whole /opt folder in to a image. Is there a way i can do that with a bb file. How will the bb file look like ? I tried something like this, but it just wouldnt copy my opt folder to the rootfs? http://pastebin.no/2696 |
| 21:13.45 | Kevin2 | cr2: ATI SD should be trivial with docs. Probably possible without docs, but likely a real pain. |
| 21:16.07 | cr2 | Kevin2: but without it the hermes is useless. |
| 21:16.58 | cr2 | if we drop DMA, and the hardware error recovery is it feasible trying to support it ? |
| 21:17.14 | Kevin2 | cr2: True, but hermes is useless without sound, keyboard, touchscreen, phone, etc. |
| 21:17.45 | cr2 | keyboard is easy. phone too. |
| 21:18.08 | cr2 | ts is something to think about. |
| 21:18.11 | Kevin2 | cr2: I'm not sure. We can watch the SD traffic, and the protocol didn't look too difficult. I don't think it is using DMA. |
| 21:18.33 | Kevin2 | ts should be easy too. The s3 docs aren't great, but it looks straight forward. |
| 21:18.37 | cr2 | sound is on ATI like SD. |
| 21:19.20 | cr2 | well, i have the same ATI chip on athena, which is pxa270 |
| 21:19.33 | cr2 | maybe tracing it there will help more. |
| 21:20.58 | cr2 | can we find out the approximate location of the ATI sound registers ? |
| 21:20.58 | Kevin2 | I thought hermes has AK4641 |
| 21:20.58 | Kevin2 | for sound.. |
| 21:20.58 | cr2 | AK4641 for the phone audio switching. |
| 21:21.03 | cr2 | the playback is on ATI. |
| 21:21.19 | Kevin2 | So, the s3c iis bus is unused? |
| 21:21.29 | cr2 | afaik, yes. |
| 21:21.45 | cr2 | i2s is also unused on athena. |
| 21:22.05 | Kevin2 | Ughh. Maybe someone should ask ATI for docs.. |
| 21:22.29 | cr2 | there is also some ATI DSP firmware uploaded in the process. |
| 21:22.41 | cr2 | ask AMD |
| 21:22.51 | cr2 | but i doubt they will release the docs. |
| 21:23.50 | cr2 | even the wince ATI32xx API was leaked by somebody. |
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| 21:27.41 | Kevin2 | cr2: I think we're screwed then. |
| 21:29.55 | cr2 | well, the playback sound is not that critical. |
| 21:30.32 | cr2 | i'll document the PLL and such registers, and how they differ from 32xx |
| 21:30.47 | Kevin2 | cr2: How can you ring the phone? |
| 21:31.26 | cr2 | on athena i'll survive without SD, i've found the full EPSON ATA controller datasheet. |
| 21:31.31 | cr2 | i'll use vibra. |
| 21:31.43 | cr2 | i never use the ring actually. on any phone. |
| 21:33.12 | cr2 | ok, we can try to ask AMD politely about the docs. |
| 21:33.41 | Kevin2 | Biggest challenge with that is to find the right people to ask. |
| 21:33.43 | cr2 | but i guess they'd like to see some company behind, and the signed NDA. |
| 21:33.57 | cr2 | it worked with TI for hx4700 |
| 21:34.11 | cr2 | ATI has some developer program. |
| 21:34.43 | cr2 | they have sometimes provided some data about Radeon to the X devs. |
| 21:34.53 | cr2 | even in the earlier times. |
| 21:35.16 | cr2 | now the radeon register docs are openly published afaik. |
| 21:37.56 | Kevin2 | Well, I imagine htc or another cell phone manufacturer could get the docs - but trying to get the docs so that we can replace wince on a small scale might become difficult to explain. |
| 21:38.54 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. Did you say there was a firmware uploaded to the chip? I seem to recall reading somewhere that Imageon chips have a mips processor in them. |
| 21:40.03 | cr2 | yes, the driver has some references about DSP. i'll look. |
| 21:44.39 | cr2 | can't find it, but there is some video processing ASIC in it. |
| 21:45.07 | cr2 | and an i2c controller. |
| 21:45.55 | cr2 | hehe. not i'd like to know where is it located, because there must be some way how it sends commands to AK4641. |
| 21:47.10 | Kevin2 | bbl |
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| 22:37.29 | cr2 | tsdogs: still hacking ? |
| 22:37.41 | tsdogs | cr2: :) yes |
| 22:37.56 | tsdogs | was checking why of the SEGV |
| 22:38.15 | cr2 | i think roadmap is not slow on qtopia. |
| 22:38.34 | cr2 | it's just something is wrong with the popups/menus |
| 22:38.36 | BabelO | cr2: quick ;) |
| 22:39.03 | cr2 | BabelO: depends on how detailed is the map :) |
| 22:39.11 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 22:39.17 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm downloading the latest wine source |
| 22:39.54 | BabelO | cr2: yes, i test your, its so big |
| 22:39.58 | tsdogs | cr2: could be, we could try removing them. |
| 22:40.05 | cr2 | BabelO: i'll try to compile gpsmapedit. the stdafx.h will be certainly a roadblock, and the weird OLE/COM. |
| 22:40.30 | BabelO | cr2: yes there is some COM call in the code |
| 22:40.52 | cr2 | BabelO: i doubt that we need it. |
| 22:42.12 | BabelO | i can add the convert to rdm format now ;) i understand how it works |
| 22:43.35 | cr2 | BabelO: directly to rdm ? |
| 22:43.55 | BabelO | cr2: i think yes should be better , no ? |
| 22:44.03 | cr2 | licensing ? |
| 22:44.11 | BabelO | ahhh :( |
| 22:44.42 | cr2 | but we can pay him 25€ that he wants, and create the closed source program :) |
| 22:45.23 | cr2 | well, i think it's better to write to some sane GIS format. |
| 22:45.34 | BabelO | ok |
| 22:46.23 | cr2 | but it may be fun to load .rdm :) |
| 22:47.05 | cr2 | well, let's write a simple dumper. |
| 22:47.14 | cr2 | postgis for example. |
| 22:47.18 | BabelO | cr2: i just want to convert all my map after it is ok |
| 22:47.29 | BabelO | what about tomtom maps format ? |
| 22:47.40 | cr2 | it's unknown. |
| 22:48.06 | BabelO | :( |
| 22:48.08 | cr2 | look at navit. for some weird binary formats. |
| 22:48.15 | BabelO | ok |
| 22:48.41 | cr2 | but i dislike their way. |
| 22:48.53 | cr2 | of reading the binary format directly. |
| 22:49.15 | cr2 | it's much better to dump into an intermediate GIS format. |
| 22:49.37 | cr2 | then you can also use any GIS software. |
| 22:50.05 | cr2 | for editing and viewing. and then convert as necessary. |
| 22:50.24 | BabelO | yes, but you can't resells maps ;) |
| 22:51.14 | cr2 | you can produce patches. |
| 22:51.34 | cr2 | but your idea of reading/writing .rdm is fun :) |
| 22:52.32 | BabelO | i take a look tomorrow to export to shp file |
| 22:52.44 | cr2 | BabelO: can we add some kind of a plugin loader ? |
| 22:52.59 | BabelO | gdal is plugged in now, so it is just some lines of code |
| 22:53.21 | cr2 | shp is too tricky, you may want to use the shapelib (included into roadmap now) |
| 22:53.28 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:53.44 | BabelO | sure if you defineplugin entry funciton needed, i can do it |
| 22:54.00 | cr2 | what you can do without any libs is mapinfo MIF/MID and GRASS ascii. |
| 22:54.31 | cr2 | plugin for an extrnal save/read format. |
| 22:54.55 | cr2 | then you'll only need to export 2 function pointers. |
| 22:55.10 | cr2 | ok, 1 if we will start with saving only. |
| 22:55.46 | BabelO | humm three , one more with plugin description / extension readable |
| 22:56.00 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:56.25 | BabelO | so it is generic plugin, just parse a directory |
| 22:56.26 | cr2 | saving the road graph in a DGLIB-friendly ascii format is also trivial |
| 22:56.44 | cr2 | and reading it too. |
| 22:57.14 | cr2 | afair there are a cr_to_a and dglview programs in out roadmap_editor CVS |
| 22:58.21 | cr2 | i don't really understand the purpose of such code: _fw.WriteC (','); |
| 22:59.10 | BabelO | object code to just add a , it is heavy |
| 22:59.21 | cr2 | void SaveAsFOOBARFormat (HANDLE _hFile, const char * _strFileName, const map_t & _map, size_t _cProgressFrom, size_t _cProgressRange); |
| 22:59.34 | cr2 | this looks rather generic to me. |
| 23:00.24 | cr2 | so it should create 3 shapefiles |
| 23:00.50 | cr2 | some CSV (or maybe DBF) tables |
| 23:01.14 | cr2 | and the DGLIB ascii graph file. |
| 23:01.52 | tsdogs | cr2: just as a try have u tryed increasing the Display.Refresh Period: in the preferences, to something like 1000 ? |
| 23:02.45 | cr2 | tsdogs: no. i wish we can create some crossreferenced html page with the settings somewhere. |
| 23:03.00 | tsdogs | me too :) |
| 23:03.02 | cr2 | often i'm completely lost. |
| 23:03.19 | cr2 | which settings are available, with which options, etc. |
| 23:03.41 | tsdogs | there are a few periodic tasks scheduled, and this one is every 200msec by default (mainly for GPS) |
| 23:03.56 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:05.57 | cr2 | BabelO: one thing should not be forgot. to split the road polylines into 2-node segments, as rdm expects them. |
| 23:06.24 | BabelO | cr2: you need to explain me that in detail ;) |
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| 23:07.37 | cr2 | the road is represented by a polyline (i.e. a vector of vertices) |
| 23:07.56 | cr2 | ok? |
| 23:08.25 | BabelO | ok |
| 23:08.36 | cr2 | some of the vertices are "nodes" |
| 23:08.48 | BabelO | ok |
| 23:08.59 | cr2 | only nodes pop up in the road graph. |
| 23:09.32 | cr2 | because usually you do care about time/length of the segment, and not it's geometry. |
| 23:09.43 | cr2 | so nodes are a subset of vertices. |
| 23:10.22 | cr2 | roadmap expect every road to start with a node (from_), and to end with a node (to_) |
| 23:10.38 | cr2 | oneway is linked to it too. |
| 23:10.51 | BabelO | so that's good to have node in start /end |
| 23:11.02 | cr2 | it's a must for roadmap. |
| 23:11.13 | cr2 | but not so in this polish format. |
| 23:11.28 | cr2 | sometimes weird things happen. |
| 23:12.00 | cr2 | so it's necessary to check 1. that the start and end vertices are nodes. |
| 23:12.23 | cr2 | and then split the polyline into pieces (aka segments) |
| 23:12.39 | cr2 | that start with a node and end with a node. |
| 23:12.46 | cr2 | without any nodes in between. |
| 23:12.51 | BabelO | ok i understand :) |
| 23:13.04 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:13.19 | cr2 | i've done it in awk, but it's a PITA there :) |
| 23:13.52 | cr2 | it's much easier to do it at the data source, instead of postprocessing the .mp |
| 23:15.37 | BabelO | :) |
| 23:15.56 | BabelO | it seem freeimage is just used to load huge file map |
| 23:16.29 | cr2 | well, it's the evilness of shareware. |
| 23:17.10 | cr2 | the mif/mid import/export is also available only in the "registered" version. |
| 23:17.20 | cr2 | i've laughed my ass off :) |
| 23:17.44 | cr2 | it's much easier to write such driver than polish ;) |
| 23:20.00 | cr2 | and with the gdal loader by tsdogs the hidden ozf2 loader will be irrelevant too. |
| 23:22.58 | BabelO | cr2: ah you add gdal to roadmap too ? |
| 23:23.08 | BabelO | or no to roadmap _editro |
| 23:23.50 | cr2 | no, to roadmap |
| 23:24.01 | cr2 | not me, but tsdogs |
| 23:24.31 | cr2 | it will force some reconsideration of the zoom layer model. |
| 23:24.57 | cr2 | but at the end we will be closer to the garmin's model. |
| 23:25.08 | cr2 | and faster rendering. |
| 23:27.01 | BabelO | cr2: it is already fast enought on BA |
| 23:27.18 | BabelO | actually i can't share my artemis gps :( have a bug in WM6 |
| 23:28.22 | cr2 | lol |
| 23:29.49 | BabelO | cr2: how can i check a librarie path load ? |
| 23:29.56 | BabelO | i mean can i strace libraries ? |
| 23:30.01 | cr2 | ltrace |
| 23:30.21 | cr2 | BabelO_: should i send you a sirf3 bt recv ? |
| 23:31.10 | BabelO | cr2: no ;) i just need to reflash a real wm6 and use gps2blue, it is enough... and i ve some contract point at orange to get a free gps receiver |
| 23:31.55 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:32.29 | cr2 | i have 2 broken receivers, and one which i don't use ;) |
| 23:32.41 | BabelO | broken ? |
| 23:32.53 | cr2 | yes. |
| 23:33.15 | cr2 | on one (serial port) the gps does not get a fix. |
| 23:33.40 | cr2 | on the other sirf3 bt device, at least the BT part is dead. |
| 23:33.46 | cr2 | i can't connect to it. |
| 23:34.49 | cr2 | and sirf3 is bad. you know :) |
| 23:35.01 | BabelO | cr2: yes sirf2 better |
| 23:35.16 | BabelO | on sirf3 artemis there is a bad static nav which can not be disabled |
| 23:35.27 | cr2 | for my purposes. |
| 23:35.40 | cr2 | sirf2 is less sensitive. |
| 23:36.01 | BabelO | how is lock time on sirf2 ? |
| 23:36.03 | cr2 | and i don't care about the TTFF |
| 23:36.47 | cr2 | athena has some hidden spyware that dowloads the ephemeris from internet. |
| 23:36.52 | cr2 | aka AGPS. |
| 23:37.11 | cr2 | the same crap which is used on moko. |
| 23:37.14 | BabelO | cr2: yes i have it, it is very usefull for quick point |
| 23:37.34 | BabelO | yes there is a dll that make a virtual com port for agps |
| 23:37.35 | cr2 | yeah, you must have it too on artemis |
| 23:37.41 | BabelO | you can disable it if you want |
| 23:38.38 | cr2 | i can wait 1 min. |
| 23:38.45 | BabelO | :) |
| 23:39.05 | cr2 | without uploading my LAC to some server in the UK. |
| 23:39.09 | BabelO | i use visualgps on windows xp at work to show deviation |
| 23:39.16 | cr2 | or in taiwan. |
| 23:39.32 | BabelO | cr2: yes with gsm they can do usefull dgps if they want |
| 23:39.45 | cr2 | it's even worse than cookies and other google tracking crap. |
| 23:40.22 | cr2 | btw, on athena you can upload the sirf3 firmware. |
| 23:40.32 | cr2 | it#s included in the .nbh file |
| 23:41.18 | cr2 | for sirf2 there was a half-binary SDK, but i've lost it when my HDDs crashed. |
| 23:41.45 | cr2 | on sirf2 it's possible to increase the ARM cpu clock frequency. |
| 23:42.00 | cr2 | from 12 to 48MHz if i'm not mistaken. |
| 23:42.14 | BabelO | so precision can be better ? |
| 23:42.16 | cr2 | then you can get 5Hz updates or such. |
| 23:42.35 | cr2 | not then precision. |
| 23:42.40 | tsdogs | ok guys it's latee good night |
| 23:42.48 | cr2 | good night. |
| 23:42.51 | BabelO | tsdogs: good night |
| 23:42.57 | cr2 | oh. really. 1:40 |
| 23:43.03 | BabelO | :) |
| 23:43.20 | BabelO | good night too, i just finish to compile my im plugin |
| 23:43.26 | cr2 | BabelO_: yes, the precision too, but not in the sense you think about :) |
| 23:43.37 | cr2 | me too. good night. |