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07:40.40kupohowdy channel
07:43.56kupoIs there any progress on getting linux on sprint's HTC-mogul?
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09:28.58BabelOhi
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11:00.47goxboxlivehi BabelO
11:02.30goxboxlivecr2_ why is the calypso modem responding with ither commands that universal? In the Atdblog the universal modem also respends with /r/n pr something like it.
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11:24.05BabelOcr2_ : with xara xtreme you can use bitmap tracer to vectorize this http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/gpsd/trunk/www/gpsd-trans-logo.png?rev=3219&view=markup to svg file
11:26.40goxboxliveBabelO so you have given up the calypso modem. Isent there a way to override the uotput from the modem in the kernel source?
11:28.56BabelOgoxboxlive : no, i don't understand i hope ljp can bring us some help, i have basic command working command which return 4 or 0 and other  segfault like +CPIN : READY, i try a little more this evening to see if i can trace it
11:30.55tsdogsBabelO: what libs did u add to build qtroadmap for Qtopia arm?
11:31.28BabelOtsdogs: wait i ll look at home computer ;)
11:31.33tsdogsthe
11:31.38tsdogss/the/thx/
11:33.12BabelOLIBS += -lts -L/local/deploy/usr/lib -L$(QTOPIADIR)/image/lib -lqtopia -lqtopiabase -lQtCore -lpthread -lQtNetwork -lQtSvg -lQtSql -lQtXml -lmd5 -lqtopia-sqlite -lQtGui
11:33.27BabelOi don't know how to use rpath, i try many thing but all failed
11:33.52tsdogsBabelO: where did u get the libmd5 I don't seem to have it anywhere...
11:34.10BabelOtsdogs: i have it in my angstrom console image
11:34.40tsdogsgoxboxlive: thx I have finally built qtopia (I had to put the toolchange in /opt/toolchains for I have no idea what reason)
11:35.50tsdogsgeez "no version information available libstdc++ ???
11:36.24tsdogsBabelO: never mind I found it :)
11:40.53BabelOcr2_ : your logo in svg :) i do it quickly http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/gpsd-svg-logo.svg .
11:41.47BabelOtsdogs: does it compile now ?
11:42.05tsdogsBabelO: I get some strange missing things (no idea)
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11:42.12tsdogsno :)
11:42.59tsdogsBabelO: libqtroadmap.a(moc_qt_main.o):(.rodata+0x1ac): undefined reference to `typeinfo for QMainWindow' ???
11:43.16BabelOhum yes ;)
11:43.17BabelOwait
11:43.39tsdogsI need to fix all this crap :)
11:44.19BabelOtsdogs CFLAGS += -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions: .
11:44.41BabelO-fno-rtti is for typeinfo
11:46.09tsdogsBabelO: why do I need version info for the libstc++ ? I'm using goxboxlive rootfs
11:46.17tsdogsBabelO: ok it builded thx
11:47.26tsdogsok gg eat, bbl
11:47.47BabelOgoxboxlive : does modem work on your latest qtopia image for universal, we test it here ;)
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12:56.50goxboxliveBabelO yes it should work. I tested 20071006 and it worked. But i have alot of local hacks in the vendor_cpp files
12:57.38goxboxliveI have also edited qmodemcellbroacast to stop cellbroadcast spammin. It sends just AT
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13:30.00BabelOgoxboxlive : ok , because we try your image at linuxtogo.org and nothing, it say no network without pin code :(
13:33.07goxboxliveBabelO yes that is correct. Qtopia have added a security to the phone. Only buttons who works without SIM is back and cancel. Read yesterdays logs from IRC. I mention it for cr2 around 1900-2100
13:33.52goxboxliveBabelO i think it checks the pincode before it connects to the net.
13:34.56tsdogsgoxboxlive: what version of libstdc++ did u take for the rootfs? I mean from OE or from toolchain?
13:36.04BabelOgoxboxlive: so we can test the phone then ? it always display no network
13:47.44goxboxlivetsdogs OE
13:47.52goxboxliveyes
13:48.12goxboxliveBabelO no it says "0" in the top bar
13:48.21tsdogsgoxboxlive: ok, I get a lot of "no information available" but I have no idea, it works anyway.
13:48.30tsdogs:)
13:48.38BabelOgoxboxlive : nothing ( and no network displayed :( )
13:59.41goxboxliveBabelO so qtopia isent segfault anymore right?
14:00.15goxboxliveSend me the hacks you did and i'll test with magician with my hacks in the vendor.cpp file.
14:00.41goxboxlivetsdogs it's because you are using another libstdc++ lib that the rootfs image where build with.
14:00.43goxboxlivebbl
14:09.23tsdogsBabelO: it's really slow :(
14:14.27BabelOtsdogs: what ? roadmap or qtopia ?
14:14.47tsdogsroadmap on qtopia, qtopia is ok, not fast but ok.
14:16.04BabelOtsdogs : really ?crhave tested it on blueangel, like me, it is ok, we need maybe a cool directfb driver to speed it up
14:16.49tsdogswell, decluttering probably would help here. are u able to send me your Polish or All file?
14:17.33BabelOtsdogs : yes
14:17.38tsdogsthx
14:17.52BabelOtsdogs: but it is your i think, mine is from cvs
14:18.04tsdogsBabelO: the Polish?
14:19.18BabelOyes the Polish
14:19.25tsdogshmm ok cvs is different, I'll try the one from cvs.
14:21.28tsdogshmm cvs it is different, but is wrong for the map I have... :( bbl
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15:12.36BabelOcr2_, tsdogs is roadmap still buildable for wince ?
15:12.59goxboxlivehi again BabelO
15:13.42BabelOgoxboxlive : :) sorry but can't use your image , no signal on top / left displayed
15:14.58goxboxliveok, but why should it suddenly work? In my vendor_lib there are alot of universal only chat commands.
15:15.09BabelOgoxboxlive: maybe your radio rom is up to date, i ve to check for BA too
15:16.11goxboxliveBabelO: send me what you did to the main source and i'll test it with magician too.
15:42.18BabelOgoxboxlive : you need this two line in qatchat.cpp line 245
15:42.26BabelO<PROTECTED>
15:42.26BabelO<PROTECTED>
15:43.54goxboxliveis that all?
15:43.55tsdogsBabelO: I have no idea, never tryed, it should. The editor version is, but map incompatible.
15:43.57goxboxlivethx
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15:45.36BabelOand also a small change .... i ll look
15:45.56BabelOtsdogs : : i can try quickly, i ve visual studio 2005 if you want me to test
15:45.59Kevin2Hi
15:46.21BabelOhi Kevin2
15:46.55Kevin2goxboxlive: If you want to build a haret "boot bundle" try using the script in tools/make-bootbundle.py -- the linload way is old now.
15:47.00Kevin2Hi BabelO.
15:47.26goxboxliveKevin2: ok, thx
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15:50.03BabelOgoxboxlive : i found the next change ;)
15:50.41goxboxlivegood
15:50.42BabelOgoxboxlive : line 843 in qatchat.cpp  if ( ch == 0x0A  || ch ==0x0D)
15:50.54goxboxlivethx
15:51.07BabelOand just do make then copy libs/libqtopiacomm.so.4.3.0
15:51.14goxboxliveyes
15:53.01goxboxliveshould i use "||" instead of "&&" ? and 0x0A instead of 0x00, right?
15:54.41tsdogsBabelO: if u want to, though it's not so maintained (in the mainline), probably for wince the editor is better...
15:55.56cr2_hi
15:56.00BabelOtsdogs : i just say that because now there is qt/wince
15:56.06cr2_tsdogs: i've a new map for you
15:56.21cr2_BabelO: your svg is way too big.
15:56.22tsdogsBabelO: I know :)
15:56.36tsdogscr2_: ok same place? file name?
15:56.58cr2_BabelO: there are many roadmap_editor versions.
15:57.11BabelOhi cr2_
15:57.20cr2_tsdogs: copying. it's the same map.
15:57.22BabelOcr2_: yes 300k + sat 19k lol
15:57.38tsdogscr2_: ok
15:57.55BabelOcr2_ : but now i ve sat object in svg, so i can use abnother tux ;)
15:58.41cr2_tsdogs: usc83010.rdm
15:59.05cr2_BabelO: is it possible to "reduce" the details ?
15:59.20cr2_BabelO: can you trace the roadmap.png ?
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15:59.37cr2_adding/modifying text is easy.
16:00.28cr2_tsdogs: ready.
16:00.43BabelOcr2_ : yes where is it roadmap.png ? i ll look to reduce detail like remove color downgrade
16:01.01tsdogscr2_: looks smaller than the other one...
16:01.17cr2_BabelO: CVS ?
16:01.26BabelOhmm ok
16:01.32cr2_BabelO: remove the color gradients
16:01.47cr2_it'll be ok even with 16 colors
16:02.18BabelOcr2_: ok i do it
16:02.25cr2_we need some minimalistic geometry.
16:02.50cr2_that's why i'd like to clone the a780 gps icon
16:03.10cr2_tsdogs: got the map ?
16:03.38tsdogscr2_: yes
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16:09.18cr2_BabelO: did you compile roadmap_editor for wince ?
16:09.21tsdogscr2_: is it 11,45?
16:09.38cr2_tsdogs: i'll have a look. i have 3 maps
16:09.47cr2_which i can see simultaneously.
16:09.52tsdogs:)
16:10.57cr2_yes. 11,46 is ok.
16:11.09tsdogsok
16:11.52cr2_we need to make sure that we all run the same code with the same setup settings.
16:11.54BabelOcr2_ : no but i can try i just want to compile qtroadmap for wince in my idea
16:12.03kupohey channel
16:12.17kupoanyone know if linux can be loaded on sprints htc mogul ?
16:12.47cr2_BabelO: sounds more difficult than just a wince version. the problem is that we can't create a map for the latest roadmap_editor.
16:13.06cr2_kupo: what is mogul ? hermes ?
16:13.39kupoI think so, though it may be known as the titan/tytn also
16:14.00kupoalso as the ppc-6800
16:14.57cr2_titan != tytn
16:15.06cr2_so it's titan, i guess.
16:15.21Kevin2kupo: That phone uses the latest msm chipset - which has no docs for it.  :-(
16:15.54cr2_Kevin2: hi. you have broken booting on the universal in the recent CVS
16:16.32cr2_it spews several error windows, but still boots.
16:16.39Kevin2cr2_: Not that I know of..  We did move it from custom code to haretmachs.txt.
16:16.53Kevin2s/haretmachs/machlist/
16:16.53kupoKevin2: anything I can do to help?
16:17.27Kevin2cr2_: If you are talking about the boot bundle stuff - I sent goxboxlive an IM on that - try using tools/make-bootbundle.py instead of linload.
16:18.17cr2_Kevin2: ok.
16:19.06Kevin2kupo: You can download latest haret and try gathering info.  http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071011.exe
16:20.22kupook
16:20.25Kevin2kupo: Getting linux running is an uphill battle in the best of times.  Without cpu docs it is near impossible.
16:21.46kupoahg
16:21.53cr2_Kevin2: there are rumors that htc may do linux for msm7x00. but i have my doubts.
16:31.31goxboxliveBabelO: i still have the same, it segfault after ATE0
16:32.11BabelOgoxboxlive : after ATE0 ???? can you try my image at linuxtogo ?
16:32.20goxboxliveBabelO: yes
16:35.35tsdogscr2_: the colors are strange with the All in the cvs :/
16:36.04cr2_tsdogs: remove 'All'
16:36.15tsdogscr2_: should I use Polish?
16:36.18cr2_yes.
16:36.35cr2_the class is not picked from the metadata afaik.
16:36.42cr2_just one more bug.
16:36.54cr2_we also need to fix the paths.
16:36.56tsdogsok, I was using it, but missed something, so changed to the cvs All, but now colors are strange :)
16:37.19cr2_what goes to /opt/Qtopia, what to /usr/share/roadmap, and what in ~/.roadmap
16:37.28goxboxliveBabelO: booting
16:37.48tsdogscr2_: yes, I think that /etc/roadmap for configuration, and there maybe set the paths to things...
16:37.51cr2_All is for TIGER only.
16:38.13cr2_<PROTECTED>
16:38.29cr2_it's not a hardware setting.
16:38.51tsdogscr2_: ok
16:39.07tsdogsI forgot u use suse ;)
16:39.26BabelOgoxboxlive : : you need to edit /etc/init.d/qpe if you want to test  and QWS_KEYBOARD have htcbutton parameters in wrong order, it is /dev/input/event0,GPIO
16:40.05goxboxliveBabelO: i am using my own startup script
16:40.14goxboxlivei just copied your opt folder in to my image
16:40.17goxboxliveroot@magician:~$
16:40.17goxboxlive############################################
16:40.17goxboxlive##### Starting Qtopia on HTC Magician #####
16:40.17goxboxlive############################################
16:40.17goxboxlivedevice to use : /dev/input/event0,GPIO
16:40.17goxboxliveSet device /dev/input/event0 to handle GPIO
16:40.19goxboxliveModem :  opening serial device  "/dev/ttyS1"  at  115200
16:40.21goxboxliveModem :  Device: "/dev/ttyS1" is a tty device: True
16:40.23goxboxliveModem :  NONBLOCK successfully reset
16:40.25goxboxliveModem :  Opened  "/dev/ttyS1"
16:40.27goxboxliveModem :  querying multiplexer plugin "htcphonemultiplex"
16:40.29goxboxliveModem :  Device: "/dev/ttyS1" is a tty device: True
16:40.33goxboxliveModem :  NONBLOCK successfully reset
16:40.34cr2_tsdogs: there is LFS
16:40.35goxboxliveAtChat :  T : "ATE0V0"
16:40.37goxboxliveSegmentation fault
16:40.39goxboxlive[1] + Done                       /etc/init.d/qpe.sh start
16:40.41goxboxliveroot@magician:~$
16:40.59cr2_goxboxlive: run it in gdb, you have enough RAM :)
16:41.06goxboxlive:-)
16:41.48tsdogscr2_: ok
16:42.53goxboxlivecr2_: how do i use gdb?
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17:05.26GSVhi, any news about kaiser?
17:05.59tsdogsgoxboxlive: how do I disable the phone in Qtopia, It locks me and I can't get out, I remember there was some DUMMY_PHONE or something
17:06.26BabelOgoxboxlive : button should work on magician with my plugin
17:06.41BabelOtsdogs : QTOPIA_PHONE_DEVICE=no
17:06.50BabelOQTOPIA_PHONE_VENDOR=no
17:06.56BabelOQTOPIA_PHONE_MUX=no
17:07.15tsdogsBabelO: thx
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17:08.30tsdogsGSV: not that I know ... but u better ask cr2_
17:08.57GSVtsdogs: is there any development going on for kaiser?
17:13.37tsdogsGSV: no idea, there was something going on for hermes
17:14.53goxboxliveBabelO: i have no idea, i havent launched qtopia yet becuase of the phone crash.
17:15.06goxboxliveI have buttons working too with your latest source
17:16.09tsdogsgoxboxlive: how do i disable the onscreen keyboard?
17:16.52goxboxlive"swithc input methods"
17:17.39goxboxlivetsdogs: but be aware ff that Fn keys doesnt work in Qtopia
17:17.52goxboxlivesop you will miss / and so
17:18.00tsdogsgoxboxlive: ok, it's only for numbers
17:18.14tsdogsi miss it anyway...
17:18.43goxboxliveAlso in project.pri you can remove the predicted keybaord in the projects.pri file in your device folder
17:19.53tsdogsgoxboxlive: where the heck do I find the switch input method in your image?
17:20.42BabelOtsdogs : switch input method ?
17:20.58tsdogsBabelO: yes.
17:21.22goxboxlivetsdogs: open in example notes and check the down left menu
17:21.44goxboxliveand you will see it. It's nothing to do with any images, it's qtopia default
17:22.31tsdogsgoxboxlive: I cannot find it :( there is no such menu
17:23.51goxboxliveBabelO: your battery meter doesnt work
17:25.41goxboxliveBabelO: but the image is fast, not slow as cr2 said
17:33.58BabelOtsdogs : top right of the screen
17:34.26BabelOgoxboxlive : yes for battery meter don't know why, i ve to look better at fic sources
17:34.30BabelOgoxboxlive: and for keys ?
17:34.33goxboxliveBabelO: couldnt we edit qatresult.cpp in the sam efolder as qatchat.cpp?
17:34.52goxboxliveThe keys will work if a edit the scancodes
17:35.20BabelOgoxboxlive: ok, even the joypad ? easier to move in menu :)
17:35.21goxboxlivethe pad works, and cam, but not power and hangup/answer
17:35.33goxboxliveyes
17:35.38BabelOok, i go back to home to look more at my issues
17:35.51goxboxliveok, so your still @work
17:35.54goxboxlivec u
17:36.00BabelO_goxboxlive: yes, bbl
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18:44.23cr2_tsdogs: so, where are we now ? :)
18:44.51tsdogscr2_: :) what do u mean? what progresses ?
18:46.05tsdogsgood question ...
18:46.43tsdogsI think we need to fix the code first. on qtopia roadmap has some troubles... (ex. the back button does not work, on QVFB it did...)
18:49.15BabelOtsdogs: yes, and don't forget to fix Makefile too -fno-rtti ;)
18:50.01tsdogsBabelO, ok I first need to find how to use the rpath, or maybe I simply could create a .pro file for qtopia
18:50.46BabelOtsdogs: yes i want someone who explain me this silly rpath, it is somethiing like --rpath=/opt/Qtopia/lib
18:50.50BabelObut it never work for me :(
18:51.42tsdogswell there also is a -Wl,-rpath=/opt/Qtopia and so on. me neither :( though it's standard gcc
18:53.00tsdogsok going home now, bbl
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19:07.23goxboxlivere
19:14.00BabelOre goxboxlive
19:59.39cr2_BabelO: is your xara working ?
19:59.49BabelOcr2_: yes it works
20:03.39BabelOcr2_: i already install wxwidget on my opensuse
20:04.09BabelOcr2_: roadmap.png need to be fully redraw
20:05.09cr2_ok.
20:05.21cr2_then it's easier to draw it from scratch.
20:06.09BabelOcr2_: yes :) for gpsd svg file, lower color give me a bad result :(
20:08.58cr2_ok.
20:09.34cr2_don't forget that we only need an icon looking good at 64x64 resolution.
20:09.39cr2_not 2048x2048
20:09.49BabelOcr2_: yes
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20:14.39BabelOcr2_: i m looking at my application to do a nice welcome screen with this http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qwizardpage.html
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20:22.11cr2_BabelO: is there any sane way to present the help pages ?
20:22.47cr2_html is insane :)
20:22.49BabelOcr2_: just html pages i did not look at this
20:23.29cr2_do oyu have any screenshots of qwizard ?
20:24.27BabelOjust the sample and it seem to be easy to do one http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/dialogs-classwizard.html and http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/dialogs-licensewizard.html
20:25.17cr2_these are for the desktop.
20:25.39cr2_they are so big, that it will look ugly on 240x240
20:25.53BabelOcr2_: yes i don't found any other i hope it works with qtopia
20:26.44cr2_but it's a nice way of filling configuration forms.
20:27.01cr2_as long as they are not so dumbed down like on xp ;-)
20:27.47cr2_Evaluate the product for 30 "
20:27.47cr2_<PROTECTED>
20:27.57cr2_hehe. for roadmap :)
20:28.37BabelOyes agree, my first idea was something like that to setup profile login for my app http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2007/05/18/commandlink-buttons-with-qt/
20:28.43BabelOembedded for sure
20:28.50cr2_You can use this software for 30 days and make one backup, but you are not allowed to distribute it.
20:28.57cr2_the trolls are kidding .
20:30.13cr2_nice comment: "I still don’t know why you ever made Jambi either, since Qt compiles on more platforms than Java runs on."
20:30.54BabelOlol :)
20:46.34cr2_BabelO: write a small license wizard app. it's fun :)
20:46.57BabelO:)
20:47.17BabelOi try to cross compile qt tapioca :(
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21:37.09cr2_BabelO: do you have msvc++ ?
21:37.35BabelOcr2_: yes i think, i ve visual studio 2005 professional
21:37.40cr2_for win32
21:38.47BabelOcr2_: for embedded device too
21:39.10cr2_i'm interested if it's difficult to compile gpsmapedit from source.
21:39.50cr2_it has a rather dumbass license, but afaik nobody cares.
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21:40.33BabelOcr2_: point me to the source i can try tomorrow at work
21:40.51cr2_i know 2
21:41.37cr2_this is the official: http://geopainting.com/en/src.html
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21:52.21cr2_BabelO: a hacked version is here http://tools.assembla.com/svn/mapedit
21:54.10cr2_it may be nice to compile it with winegcc, but i'not such great windows programmer ;)
21:54.43BabelOcr2_: i do such windoze craps all the day
21:54.52cr2_hehe.
21:55.27cr2_i mean, the program will probably compile out of the box
21:55.45cr2_but i'd like to make some changes to make it roadmap-friendly.
21:55.53BabelObut now we use big brother dot NET :( you need a VM really big
21:56.37cr2_maybe write a "save to .rdm" feature.
21:56.44cr2_.njet :)
21:57.29BabelOlol, i m not really happy with such high level language
21:59.38BabelOthese days i spent my time to switch between ms studio delphi builder jscript delphiscript and some awk :(
21:59.51BabelOnow i never rememeber if i need = or == or ===
22:01.54BabelOcr2_: is goxboxlive able to build an executable live qtopia image  ?
22:06.19cr2_i think yes.
22:06.36BabelOgood :) i do same for ba then
22:12.35BabelOcr2_: is there a way to save profile data for live image ?
22:22.23cr2_for qpe ?
22:22.39cr2_should be possible.
22:22.55BabelOcr2_: yes, in wince partition ?
22:23.12cr2_hmm.
22:23.25cr2_why not.
22:23.54cr2_you gave me a good idea :)
22:24.10cr2_to compile roadmap with -fprofile-arcs
22:24.36BabelOwhat is that ?
22:27.06BabelOah ah -fprofile-generate and -fprofile-use
22:27.08cr2_http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gcc/Optimize-Options.html
22:29.00BabelOcr2_: and also -fbranch-probabilities
22:29.17BabelOvery interesting gcc
22:29.44BabelOi m curious about performance gain :)
22:29.58cr2_me too.
22:32.09BabelOtsdogs say it is slow on universal :(
22:33.43cr2_he should create the test image.
22:34.42BabelOcr2_: my maps is really close to be the test image, there is the sea, mountain,  lac, rail ... all type of road ;)
22:35.24cr2_is it free ?
22:36.10cr2_we also _need_ the point labels.
22:36.31BabelOcr2_: no not free :(
22:36.50BabelOwhat is this point label ? POI ? i have some on this map
22:38.34cr2_BabelO: the 30,60 map is actually "free", as in "can be dowloaded for free, and converted using the right tools". but it's not good as a test image.
22:38.53BabelOcr2_: is it normal that i did not see mountain on converted map ?
22:38.55cr2_everything that has the point geometry.
22:39.15cr2_mountain as a point, or as an altitude contour ?
22:39.32cr2_altitude contour is a polyline, so it will be labeled.
22:39.49cr2_mountain as a point will be dropped.
22:40.04cr2_that's what we are discussing with tsdods.
22:40.14BabelOok
22:40.26cr2_there is actually no logical difference between these cases.
22:40.47cr2_drawlabel(int x,int y,char *label)
22:41.08cr2_it should not matter if it's point of polyline.
22:41.21cr2_unfortunately, in the current code it matters.
22:57.57cr2_BabelO: actually , it will be great if you'll compile gpsmapedit.
22:58.24BabelOcr2_: for wince , no problem, i ll try tomorrow
22:58.35cr2_we will simply write an sql dumper.
22:58.42cr2_not wince, winxp
22:59.10BabelOok ok, why they write partial source code ?
22:59.16cr2_or shapefile dumper.
22:59.23cr2_it's shareware.
22:59.44cr2_greedy lusers ;)
22:59.53BabelOok
23:00.14cr2_the program is crippled a bit
23:00.30cr2_but can be fixed using libgdal :)
23:01.32cr2_instead of NIH tools, and other strange windows picture binary dlls.
23:02.44cr2_i can remember an endless usenet thread in '95 or '96
23:03.06cr2_"people who write shareware for linux, die" :)
23:03.39BabelOlol
23:03.48cr2_afair, 'xv' was the only such program.
23:05.56cr2_i could have compiled gpsmapedit myself, but then i need to search for a warezed msvc, install it somewhere, etc.
23:06.14cr2_and use the MDI IDE. too much pain :)
23:06.32BabelOi understand, so you have some windows at work too ;)
23:06.39cr2_yes.
23:08.25BabelOhummm qtdbus switch to QtDBus now :( i have to change all my sources
23:08.49cr2_we may have a site license, but i'll die before going to the computing center and asking about it ;-)
23:08.53cr2_hehe.
23:12.54BabelOcr2_: what is compile param to look for librarie without extension like libpng.so instead of libpng.so.0.4.2
23:13.16cr2_use dlopen()
23:13.24cr2_if you want an exact match.
23:14.13BabelOcr2_: i don't want exact match but g++ want ( i ve done symlink actually )
23:16.02cr2_hmm. need to read the ld(1) page.
23:16.12BabelOok i ll look
23:16.15cr2_it should be in the binutils package.
23:16.24cr2_it's not really a gcc flag.
23:16.33cr2_gcc just pushes it to the linker.
23:16.54cr2_ld.texi is probably the best
23:17.03cr2_not the man page.
23:18.19BabelOok
23:20.51BabelO:( sniff i just finish to compile my google talk test programm  and ba display battery empty ....
23:21.31cr2_ok.
23:21.37cr2_it's late..
23:21.40cr2_good night.
23:21.43BabelOyes
23:21.48BabelOgood night
23:54.16ljphmm drat

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