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00:00.53BabelOgood night
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00:07.10tsdogsnight
00:09.26BabelOtsdogs: ;)
00:09.35BabelOwait two minutes, i shox you something ;)
00:09.35tsdogsyes ?
00:09.38tsdogsok
00:10.00tsdogsqtopia failed again :(
00:10.17tsdogshome/alex/PDA/src/qtopia/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20071008/qtopiacore/qt/src/corelib/io/qtemporaryfile.cpp: In function ‘int _gettemp(char*, int*, int, int)’:
00:12.56BabelOtsdogs: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/capture22.png
00:14.01tsdogsBabelO: cool, what's that blue sqare ? an error?
00:14.21BabelO<PROTECTED>
00:14.44tsdogsho ok it's a label.
00:14.54tsdogsBabelO: nice, is it usable?
00:15.26BabelOtsdogs: yes a label, it is converted map from cr2 of my place, i just understand after some wine that i put coord in wrong order lat / long and not long / lat like in google
00:15.45tsdogs:)
00:16.07BabelOtsdogs: yes and it look better that gis russa software,
00:16.19BabelOcolor are so good like this with green and white ;)
00:16.35tsdogs;)
00:16.40BabelOstreet are a little big
00:17.03BabelO<PROTECTED>
00:17.28tsdogswell, there is some settings to change them, and also decluttering is not enabled yet i guess.
00:18.30BabelOi hope cr2 look at the log tomorrow ;)
00:19.00tsdogscapture24 is missing... but they are very good
00:19.02BabelOand keys button are working again, i just switch parameter, that s the wrong thing when we work too late in the night ;)
00:19.24BabelO24 is now
00:19.44BabelOyou can see street bigger than building :(
00:19.50tsdogsyes they are too big.
00:20.57tsdogswell the Polish format has 5pix wide road.
00:21.26tsdogsyou can change it in the default/All or default/Polish thickness for each kind of road.
00:21.49BabelOok thanks ;)
00:22.42BabelOtsdogs: we can set them like 0.5 ?
00:22.44tsdogs;) but I think we need some fixing anyway... railroad is 3pix wide, but look much more
00:23.17tsdogsdon't think so, it's pixel, and there is some code to force them to be at least 2px whide.
00:23.26BabelOyes i see onto the picture railroad
00:24.16BabelOwhat is yellow ?
00:24.31tsdogsBabelO: to be honest, no idea... cr2 knows
00:24.59tsdogsI think is residential
00:25.08BabelOok thanks anyway for all your work on this ;) i ll try with gps tomorrow ( sharing gps from artemis )
00:25.18tsdogsBabelO: ok cool.
00:26.38tsdogsgood night
00:26.40BabelO1 is too more :(
00:26.44BabelOgood night
00:26.49tsdogs:)
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10:32.55goxboxlivealo
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10:34.14tsdogsgoxboxlive: hoi
10:37.54goxboxlivetsdogs have you been able to build an Qtopia image yet?
10:38.18tsdogsgoxboxlive: nope, I get an error on the qtemporaryfile.cpp
10:38.59goxboxliveThe htc buttons have strange behveour wit Universal. Instead of jump one step it jumps two steps. But on Magician the plugin works just fine.
10:39.05goxboxlivestrange
10:39.56tsdogsgoxboxlive: maybe some strange button handling for the key release event...
10:40.22goxboxliveright, because it didnt bevave like this before
10:45.20tsdogsgoxboxlive: what do you have in devices/htcphone/qconfig.h
10:45.21tsdogs?
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10:57.35cr2tsdogs: hi
10:57.42tsdogscr2: hi
10:57.46cr2tsdogs: in the kernel it's the same gpio driver.
10:57.52cr2gpio-keys
10:58.03cr2but maybe something has changed recently ;)
10:58.32tsdogscr2: could be, also there could be some strange behavier in the keyboard plugin...
10:58.34cr2tsdogs: i'll eat something, and then i'll create a map for you.
10:58.43tsdogscr2: ok thx :)
10:59.13cr2i'm thinking about a fake map / fake nmea too.
11:02.21tsdogsthat would provide some data for testing, and would be freely distributable.
11:08.37goxboxlivetsdogs: Nothing the file is epmty.
11:08.52tsdogshmm, strange...
11:16.24goxboxlivetsdogs just so you know, i am not buiding with our old htcphone anymore. I am using the ficphoe as base and just editing the files to fit universal/magician.
11:16.44goxboxliveAlso added htcbuttons/htckeyboard and so.
11:17.04tsdogshmm ok, are there many differences?
11:17.44goxboxlivetsdogs i guess there are some few, i havent compared so much.
11:18.59tsdogsgoxboxlive: can u put it to cvs?
11:19.13tsdogsor e-mail me if u prefer.
11:19.33goxboxliveyes i can send it on mail to u.
11:20.23tsdogsok thx
11:25.29goxboxlivetsdog sent
11:25.41tsdogsgoxboxlive: got it :)
11:25.46goxboxlivegood
11:34.11goxboxliveThis one is from the snapshot 20071006. The ficphone source changes often because they also support it now.
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11:43.52Ilya_1sthello, touchpad is broken on latest htc-universal image with kernel zImage-2.6.21-hh17-htcuniversal-20071009060341
11:46.13BabelOhi
11:46.33BabelOcr2 : did you see my picture with converted map from you ?
11:46.52goxboxliveIlya_1st yes in the OpieII image, but that has nothing to do with the kernel zImage.
11:46.55goxboxlivehi bd2
11:47.06goxboxlivehi BabelO i ment :-)
11:47.35goxboxliveBabelOforget about the roadmap now, we need PHONE working.  :-)
11:47.39goxboxlivei have to go, bbl
11:47.44Ilya_1stgoxboxlive, I've compiled gpe-image but )
11:47.54Ilya_1stsame version of kernel
11:48.21cr2BabelO: yes, the streets are too wide, but it's some internal rescaling in roadmap.
11:48.49Ilya_1stBabelO, is any workaround to make touchscreen work? :)
11:50.00Ilya_1stBabelO, I had to receive send calls on this machine so some things I need have functioning :)
11:50.55BabelOcr2 : : yes , and your colors look nice ;) i try with thickness set to 1 pix but it is to bog too...
11:51.50BabelOIlya_1st : don't know , i ven t universal
11:54.09Ilya_1stheh....
11:59.11cr2BabelO: it's some artificial enlargement.
11:59.17cr2Ilya_1st: on the universal ?
12:01.43Ilya_1styes )
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12:29.41BabelOcr2 : i found why buttons doesn't work on blueangel, i invert some parameters in QWS_KEYBOARD environment variable
12:46.03cr2lol
12:48.39BabelOcr2 : yes, it was too late in the night when i do this image :(
12:51.33cr2i see
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13:51.20ltxda2morning
14:32.48BabelOcr2_: still here ?
14:34.03cr2_yes
14:35.22BabelOcr2_: why i need to switch lat / long in session file ?
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14:41.44BabelOcr2_: i just say that because parameter in google maps or other software are not in same order than in session file
14:42.20BabelOi m agree that there is no need to change this file by hand in final software
14:51.37cr2_BabelO: because it's lon/lat in the menu. and usually you put X and then Y in the coordinate pair.
14:52.14BabelOcr2_ : yes agree for X / Y pair, need to send an email to google.... lol
14:52.52cr2_BabelO: since i want to switch to the mercator projection, the numbers will not have such "emotional" meaning for you anymore :)
14:53.48cr2_there will be just offsets X in meters and Y in meters.
15:01.04cr2_BabelO: can we put all the machine-wide settings under /opt/Qtopia ?
15:01.24cr2_it was done on opie (hmm, with some bugs)
15:02.46BabelOcr2_ : what do you mean by all the machine settings ? led / vibra ?
15:06.00cr2_BabelO: for roadmap
15:06.33cr2_<PROTECTED>
15:07.30BabelOah, i did not see any /opt/Qtopia/share when i use strace ... i don't know how it parse these directies
15:20.07cr2_BabelO: it needs to be fixed in the source.
15:21.08BabelOok
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15:23.30BabelOhi goxboxlive ;)
15:23.33goxboxlivetsdogs: did it build now?
15:23.38goxboxliveBabelO: hi
15:23.52goxboxliveBabelO: @work?
15:24.03BabelOgoxboxlive: buttons are working now, you can test on magician if you have time, maybe try my BA image
15:24.10BabelOgoxboxlive: yes @work
15:24.36goxboxliveBabelO: Do you have the source ? I can compile it myself.
15:25.14BabelOhum wait i can zip it :)
15:25.31goxboxlivethx
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15:28.33goxboxlivehi Marex-notebook
15:29.26Marex-notebookhi goxboxlive
15:33.08cr2_BabelO: does the keyboard work on ba ?
15:33.59BabelOcr2_ : yes, keyboard and button it qtopia with image version you have just switch parameters ov environment variable QWS_KEYBOARD
15:34.08cr2_ok.
15:34.27BabelOcr2_ i say keyboard works if we abstract of the repeat problem
15:34.45cr2_BabelO: how do we compile the image for universal ?
15:36.50BabelOcr2_ : qtopia or just roadmap ? qtopia is compiling for goxboxlive
15:37.59cr2_BabelO: we need some unified way for compiling it.
15:38.19cr2_think about hima/hermes/athena/sable/...
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15:39.46BabelOcr2_ : ok, qtopia is generic, we just need a plugin naming rule
15:40.56cr2_do you have different plugins from goxboxlive ?
15:41.22cr2_is there any chance they will be added to the snapshots ?
15:42.37goxboxlivecr2_: the images of BA/uni/Ma is the same. I have made a startscript for it, i'll pastebin it.
15:43.31BabelOgoxboxlive: mail sent with new cpp and .h files
15:43.55goxboxlivethanks BabelO i'll test it out
15:44.41goxboxlivecr2_: http://pastebin.no/2681
15:46.09goxboxlivei tested the bootscript wich is suplied with the ficphone and it slows down my device running Qtopia
15:49.18cr2_goxboxlive: VNC ?
15:49.32goxboxlivecr2_: yes, it's a plugin.
15:50.08goxboxliveso you can control it over computer instead of the device. It's helpfull sometimes
15:50.45cr2_ok, what do i need if i'd like to disable it ?
15:51.32goxboxlivejust remove VNC from the script and the lib file from qt_plugins
15:51.54cr2_and leave Transformed:LinuxFb:mmWidth54:mmHeight75:Rot0
15:52.36goxboxliveTransformed is for rotation
15:52.50goxboxliveRot0 is angle 0
15:53.02cr2_ok
15:53.13goxboxliveLinuxFB is for the frambffer and the physical size of screen.
15:54.52goxboxlivecr2_: if you want buttons working on universal in a hurry you can just replce my libhtcbuthadler.so with the one BabelO has in his image. The buttons should work with it.
15:55.52cr2_goxboxlive: can we unify this work ?
15:56.55goxboxlivecr2_: unify? do you mean make a common one for all the images?
15:57.19cr2_yes.
15:58.39goxboxliveYes we can. The only problem i c now is the phonelibs. It works kind of OK with Universal, but the other devices doesnt. But i guess that is just a workaround (isent it BabelO ?))
15:58.52cr2_we can modify your script immediately to support all phones in hh.org CVS
16:00.06goxboxliveYes
16:00.51goxboxliveJust give me the info about which port is for which device and i can add it to my script.
16:01.33goxboxliveexport phonevendor is also common
16:02.08BabelOgoxboxlive : it is better to remove reference in custom.h to ttySX and just keep plugin instead
16:07.10goxboxliveBabelO: ok
16:07.14cr2_goxboxlive: call getenv() instead of hardcoding the phone port.
16:07.22goxboxliveso , your is allmost empty now or?
16:07.45goxboxlivecr2_: thats clever (live and learn).
16:08.04goxboxlivei might need help on that :-)
16:09.23goxboxlivehow does it know chose the right port with getenv?
16:09.24BabelOgoxboxlive : goxboxlive yes no many lines in it ;) i just set all env variable, we can do that in script according to a cat /proc/cpuinfo maybe ? what do you think cr2 to detect platform type ?
16:12.40cr2_BabelO: yes.
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16:23.57goxboxliveBabelO: do you also have the hacks you have provided to the phonesource?
16:25.27goxboxliveMagician and Universal have some diffrents setup when it comes to keycodes.
16:28.10BabelOgoxboxlive : my hack is in some file here and here, i go back home now, it is only three line to add ;)
16:28.15goxboxliveBabelO: pastebin.no/2683 The +++ is your file and the --- is for magician
16:28.22BabelOgoxboxlive: for keycode ? strange
16:28.24goxboxliveBabelO: ok, cool
16:28.45cr2_BabelO: is it an svg ? http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/gpsd/trunk/www/gpsd-trans-logo.png?rev=3219&view=markup
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16:29.57BabelOcr2_: this one yes, i have TUX in SVG, is it your new roadmap logo ? :)
16:30.10cr2_no, it's the gpsd logo.
16:30.21cr2_we need it to control the gpsd from 'Settings'
16:30.59BabelOgoxboxlive: it is strange, we have to compare ba key and ma key driver in kernel, maybe we don't use same keycode for same gpios
16:31.10BabelOcr2_ : cool :)
16:31.22cr2_the satellites look rather primitive, so it's not very difficult to create a small svg of it.
16:31.54BabelOcr2_: for tux http://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imatge:Tux.svg
16:32.18cr2_BabelO: thanks.
16:34.19cr2_BabelO: 300k is an overkill :)
16:34.47BabelOcr2_: lol http://www.sjbaker.org/tux/
16:35.35BabelOcr2_: it is tux from how to learn SVG
16:38.29BabelObbl
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17:22.31BabelOre
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17:37.13goxboxlivecr2_: Read this:
17:37.15goxboxliveWhile the screen lock is active (SIM card pin required for example) the applications will only be allowed keys such as Key_Back and Key_No. This is to reduce the chance of anyone accessing the phone's data while the SIM-card pin is still required.
17:37.49goxboxliveSo that's why we cant access the phone while we dont have a simcard in it and the phone is activated on Universal.
18:09.18cr2_goxboxlive: ok.
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18:22.37goxboxlivehi pH5
18:22.44pH5hi goxboxlive, bbl
18:23.01goxboxlive:-)
18:56.38pH5re
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19:27.49rakeemHey, tsdogs....
19:28.00tsdogsrakeem: hi
19:28.33rakeemI dunno if you recall, but a week or so ago you gave me a link to some new images for the Smartphones...
19:29.06rakeemLike a fool I went straight for the 2.6.22 zImage...
19:29.32rakeem...and something, hitherto unseen (by me at least) happened...
19:30.34rakeemThe device reset, in a crash kind of way rather than a sweet HaRet way...
19:30.51rakeem...and refused to boot again!
19:31.15tsdogshoo, that's bad :(
19:31.24rakeemGot the Windows splash, but it wouldn't go any further...  Had to hard reset...!
19:31.48tsdogsrakeem: what model?
19:32.01rakeemI'm not having a dig at you, I hope you understand...!  Just found it interesting...
19:32.30rakeemIt's the Tornado...  Or SDA, or SP5...
19:33.09tsdogsrakeem: did it start working again?
19:33.28rakeemI wanted to roll back from WM6 to WM5 anyway, for bluetooth reasons, so no big deal...  Yeah, it worked fine after the hard reset...
19:34.42tsdogsI saw somebody else had the same problem when WM6 was installed...
19:35.13rakeemJust illustrated what can happen when something runs away like that...  As far as I know, there's nothing to stop the bootloader getting hosed in a similar way...
19:35.45rakeemI had trouble getting one of the Kernels to boot on my Uni after an (up)grade to WM6 from WM5...
19:36.52tsdogsrakeem: no idea then, probably there was something in the kernel...
19:37.16rakeemI'm gonna sync (when I've finished this game of Worms) and try another one of those Kernels...  I'd really like to get a skeleton OS running on the Tornado with Wifi & Bluetooth...
19:38.10tsdogswell probably law whould know which one to use...
19:38.38tsdogsbbl. gg eat.
19:38.39rakeemYeah, I s'pose...  I don't quite understand how the memory contents, even if intact after HaRet gets it's claws in, could affect execution of the kernel though...
19:39.03rakeemEnjoy...  Thanks again for the links though...
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20:11.50rakeemHey Hawk...
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20:29.47rakeemHi Tim...
20:44.00cr2_tsdogs: still here ?
20:44.17BabelOhey cr2_
20:44.39BabelOdo you find a sat svg picture ?
20:45.51rakeemHi cr2...  He's gone for some food...
20:47.13rakeemAnyone know if there're any newer Uni images than those on the usual linuxtogo page?
20:57.29cr2_rakeem: no. because only goxboxlive makes the images
20:58.18rakeemSo I'd gathered, he does a good job...
20:58.54rakeem...and I understand you're the deep, kernel / hardware guru...
21:01.10rakeemI don't mean to sound like a lazy sod, demanding images, I just haven't been around for a couple of weeks and things have been moving pretty fast lately...
21:02.38rakeem...and I'm still experiencing serious instability with Wifi on anything other than 2.6.16...
21:21.00BabelOcr2_: IRA \o International reference alphabet (i.e. ASCII).
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22:08.08cr2_tsdogs: are you still alive ?
22:14.09BabelOcr2_: i think he is not eating pizza this evening .. lol
22:22.49cr2_BabelO: i've created him a map.
22:23.31BabelOcr2_: good , each of we have it s one map then.. i m really happy with quality produced
22:27.09cr2_BabelO: the point labels should be rendered, then it will become usable.
22:34.29cr2_BabelO: we also need a reliable way to convert OSM maps.
22:34.49BabelOcr2_: yes a way without your help :)
22:35.40BabelOcr2_: maybe with help of kiozen ?
22:39.25cr2_BabelO: it's possible right now, but there are some bugs.
22:39.45BabelOcr2_: a c program ot some perl ?
22:40.01cr2_for kiozen i have found something nice :) we will see if he will implement it in qlandkarte :)
22:40.18cr2_otherwise it's possible to patch gpsbabel.
22:40.24BabelO:)
22:40.27cr2_BabelO: for what ?
22:40.46BabelOcr2_: to convert map like you do for mine
22:41.09BabelOcr2_:  i m very interested in use of postgis
22:41.25cr2_it uses gpsmapedit, which is not very non-interactive in wine.
22:41.28cr2_rgn_header.cpp:91: void RGN_element::Read(xor_fstream *, Coordinates, IMGfile *): Assertion `((rgnType >= 0x20 && rgnType <= 0x27 ) || rgnType == 0x2f || rgnType == 0x1d || rgnType == 0x2a || rgnType == 0x2c )' failed.
22:41.46cr2_got such problem here.
22:42.20cr2_BabelO: yes, postgis works too.
22:43.30BabelOcr2_: i install it when i have more time, i m looking at modem, i advance a little today, but ba modem firmware is very unstable
22:43.31cr2_BabelO: maybe osm2pgsql is the best way.
22:43.41cr2_ok.
22:44.31BabelOcr2_: so we need many tools to convert from one format > OSM then -> roadmap ?
22:45.48cr2_OSM is a braindead xml format, so it eats enormous amount of resources to parse and use.
22:46.17cr2_the current planet-*.osm file is 20GB.
22:47.09cr2_but there are people who are already doing the dirty job of cutting it into pieces :)
22:47.12cr2_http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy
22:47.42cr2_unfortunately they drop the lines crossing the grid.
22:47.54cr2_but i don't blame them.
22:48.20cr2_they use a java parser ;-)
22:48.56cr2_java+xml , that really makes me sick.
22:49.21cr2_the OSM editor uses java too.
22:49.28BabelOcr2_: java xml class is really powerfull to work on big big xml file without thinking about memory leak ;)
22:49.41cr2_after downloading some harmless areas i get OOM.
22:49.51cr2_LOL
22:50.43cr2_so i prefer to use cgpsmapper to reuse their tiles.
22:50.50cr2_and create the shapefiles.
22:51.06cr2_but their .img generator is a bit buggy too.
22:51.29cr2_as you can guess, it's written in .... :)
22:51.52BabelO:)
22:52.26cr2_but imho, they will resolve the problems soon.
22:53.41BabelOmodem return me AT  <7>(16)+CPIN: READY\r\n0\r and qtopia segfault :( grhhhhh
22:55.25cr2_why doesn't qtopia just strip \n ?
22:55.55BabelOi don't know, but i patch it somewhere to understand that ba modem just end line with \r
22:56.48cr2_BabelO: but it's the same chipset as moko. are the firmwares so different ?
22:57.34BabelOcr2_: it seem yes, because we use exactly same ti calypso kernel driver, so i dont understand
23:06.54cr2_good night
23:07.01BabelOgood night
23:10.30ljpis the ba modem a calypso?
23:10.43BabelOljp: yes
23:10.48ljpermm. never mind :)
23:11.45BabelOljp: yes it is silly, same modem, command are same, but does not work :(
23:27.10BabelOljp: and magician have ti calypso too with same issue as ba
23:53.47BabelOljp does someone bought an blueangel or  magician to you ? ;)
23:54.04BabelOi stop here my research, too much time spent to look at it
23:54.10BabelOgood night

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