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11:54.48zychoany hermes users in here?
12:12.46goxboxliveBabelO: there?
12:13.10BabelOhi goxboxlive
12:13.31BabelOgoxboxlive: i look a bit more on modem issue
12:13.51goxboxliveBabelO: good. I have just booted Qtopia on Motorola A780 :-)
12:13.55BabelOgoxboxlive: it seem my modem return is something like +CSCS : "HEX"\r\n0\r
12:14.04goxboxlivehmm ok
12:14.05BabelOgoxboxlive: does it work ?
12:14.20BabelOgoxboxlive : can you check your return on magician ?
12:15.11goxboxliveBabelO: i have problme with the zImage. Seems like it doesnt find rootfs so i am using an old zImage. But i wil try when i have it running with latest kernel.
12:15.23BabelOi think qtopia is waiting for \r\n on last line
12:15.30goxboxliveeven battery meter works, also when charging :-)
12:15.35goxboxliveok
12:25.24goxboxliveBabelO: i thought it where only wince wich has the \r\n at the end. I also have that with Universal.
12:26.26BabelOgoxboxlive : in atv1 mode each command end with \r\n at the end but have blank line before OK in atv0 mode all is ok , just missing \n at the end, then qtopia does not detect this return :(
12:26.52goxboxlivehmmok
12:27.30goxboxliveif the dialer alerts with incomming call i am gonna try to use magician as my daily phone
12:27.31BabelOgoxboxlive: other thing, i ve removed all in custom.h, now i just use environment variable
12:27.44goxboxliveok, like me for universal
12:28.22goxboxliveactually, i m building  a minor edited ficphone edition now. Maybe it will work on magian
12:29.44BabelOi hope, too, crossing finger ;)
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12:48.06zefanjahey...do anybody know how I must edit startup from Opie to start OPIE II?
12:56.04zefanja(for htcuniversal)
12:56.52goxboxlivezefanja: ?
12:57.12zefanjagoxboxlive, jpp
12:57.38zefanjai downloaded the opie II image
12:57.44goxboxliveok
12:57.47zefanjaand untar it to the card
12:58.06zefanjaand i installed the opie cab, the bootloader
12:58.37goxboxliveyou cant do that. I f you do thatyou have to replace the kernel zImage
12:59.26zefanjaso how can i boot opie II?
13:10.06goxboxlivezefanja: locate your current zImage and replace it with the one form the folder you downloaded the OpieII image.-
13:22.12zefanjagoxboxlive: I got a kernel panic...no rootfs could mount
13:22.51goxboxliveadd rootdelay=1 to the startup.txt
13:27.08zefanjagoxboxlive: Now the rootfs is mounted, but no it says: unable to open an initial console and failed to execute /linuxrc
13:30.26goxboxliveo, i have no idea. follow the wiki
13:30.53zefanjado i need the ramdisk?
13:30.58goxboxliveno
13:31.12zefanjacan you send me your startup.txt?
13:31.55goxboxliveits on the wiki
13:33.09goxboxliveBabelO: still no sound when using the phone
13:34.36goxboxlivezefanja: set KERNEL zImage
13:34.36goxboxliveset CMDLINE "rootdelay=1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 psplash=true fbcon=rotate:1"
13:34.36goxboxliveboot2
13:35.13zefanjathx very much...I want to try this
13:36.27goxboxliveBabelO: AudioState :  No current audio gateway found
13:37.27goxboxliveBabelO: but LCD off works now
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13:46.26BabelOgoxboxlive : on which phone do you have this ? magician ?
13:47.30goxboxliveBabelO: no, universal. I am trying to boot Magician now
13:48.44goxboxliveno seg fault
13:50.49goxboxliveBabelO: it segfault right after ATE0
13:53.00goxboxliveBabelO: here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.no/2654
13:53.01BabelOok  :( i think i found where i can check \r nstead of \n
13:54.23BabelOgoxboxlive : do you have dmesg of this test ?
13:58.03goxboxliveBabelO: with dmux: http://pastebin.no/2655
14:00.30goxboxliveBabelO: Without dmux: http://pastebin.no/2656
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14:40.10BabelOgoxboxlive : ok without demux it is normal that nothing works
14:40.43BabelOgoxboxlive: maybe you can ry with demux and ate0v0, to see if we have same result
14:52.37goxboxliveok
14:54.01goxboxlivestill the same
14:59.36goxboxlivenow i tried several combinatiopns and so. It seems like the modem doesnt take the input and just dies
15:38.15goxboxlivecr2: do you know how i communicate with the modem on A780?
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16:06.57cr2goxboxlive: it's something very messy. i'm not 100% sure how they do it in openezx. motorola used /dev/mux0, /dev/mux1, ..., /dev/mux14
16:08.05goxboxlivecr2:  yes i know. And i guess /dev/mux0 is the one i should use when using 'cu', but it complaine about "tapi server might be down"
16:10.50goxboxlivein installed opentapi now, but it doesn seem to help
16:19.04cr2yes, the keepalive messages are required, or something like that.
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16:29.08goxboxlivecr2: well i got qtopia running on it, it was fast and quite resposive
16:29.28goxboxlivebut with no phone thuogh
16:31.20cr2ok.
16:31.32cr2qtopia2 was also ok.
16:31.39cr2but the device has 48MB ram.
16:32.36chxis there any HTC phone which has GPS , QWERTY keyboard and work w/ Linux? It's fine if the GPS is not working under Linux, I can dual boot.
16:40.48goxboxlive:-)
16:44.11cr2chx: gps is trivial compared to other challenges.
16:45.21cr2chx: well, athena. but it's not a phone. trinity ? but we don't have an SD driver.
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16:51.56fraggedmmm how well does the Xda IIs work under linux? I've got one and from what I've seen on project pages it appears to work and only require an SD card, but I got my IIs second hand as the LCD is cracked so its not really worth the upgrade if linux isnt functional (particularly looking for GSM, touchscreen and qwerty compatability,
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17:11.51cr2chx: hm. sorry. hermes has, but its gps is crippled.
17:15.13chxcr2: in what ways...?
17:17.48zychothere is no gps antenna
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17:21.50chxah.
17:22.33chxHermes seems to have "minimal" Linxu support :(
17:26.30chxand the first real OpenMoko phone has no QWERTY keyboard :(
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18:00.24goxboxlivehi BabelO
18:00.37BabelOhi goxboxlive
18:01.08goxboxliveI cant get the phone on  A780 to work either. It's even more complicated that BA/Mag.
18:01.53BabelOit is some mux device
18:02.35goxboxliveyes form mux0-mox15 :-D
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18:03.52goxboxlivehi pH5
18:04.20BabelOhi pH5
18:04.35pH5hi goxboxlive, BabelO
18:04.39goxboxlivepH5: i took a look at your tools. What does htc-boot does and htc-flash? Can i use them now for something?
18:05.02goxboxlivebuiltag upload zImage right
18:05.19pH5goxboxlive: htc-boot is what 'passgen' was before (boot kernel in ram from bootloader)
18:05.30goxboxliveahh
18:05.55pH5htc-flash can be used to backup your wince flash partitions
18:06.03pH5(and to overwrite them, but with what... ;))
18:06.45goxboxliveok. pH5 what is he diffrents of u-boot and the one hx4700 are using?
18:07.25pH5there is no 2nd stage bootloader yet. the htc-flash tool uses the htc bootloader itself to flash stuff.
18:07.50goxboxliveok
18:08.01pH5the idea is to leave the htc bootloader in flash like on hx4700, so it's safe do do anything to the rest of the flash
18:08.13pH5but I still need to adapt the 2nd part.
18:08.21goxboxliveo
18:08.22goxboxlivek
18:09.05pH5unfortunately I need vacations or a very long weekend to proceed with anything asm.
18:09.27goxboxlive:-)
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18:31.47tsdogscr2: just a pick (as I'm not able to build qtopia just experimenting with SDK :) http://idealinux/tsdogs/screenshots/qtopia_roadmap1.png
18:33.20BabelOtsdogs: host invalid
18:33.25BabelOhi tsdogs
18:33.25tsdogssorry: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/screenshots/qtopia_roadmap1.png
18:33.39tsdogshi BabelO (of course internal link :)
18:35.28BabelOtsdogs: look nice, create a roadmap.menus to remove file/View/Find ;)
18:35.54tsdogsYep and the window too.. I'll be working on this this evening ;)
18:36.02tsdogsgg home now, bbl. cya
18:36.09BabelObye
18:37.12goxboxliveBabelO: have you been doing some more tests on the phone?
18:38.32BabelOi m just booting linux ;)
18:38.42goxboxliveok
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18:40.14cr2BabelO: imho the FileView and the toolbar are just wasting screen space.
18:44.22goxboxlivecr2: shouldnt that be a user choice. SO you are able to view it with and wihout.
18:45.25BabelOi don't understand what qtopia is doing with the modem :(
18:45.45BabelOljp : around ? we need some help please :(
18:46.09BabelO:)
18:47.34goxboxliveBabelO: Lets find him :-)
18:48.09BabelOljp : this is my debug http://pastebin.ca/725838, i change a little qtopia to understand AT line command that finish with \r
18:49.40BabelOljp: is the guy that understand modem have konversation or something else ? ;)
18:49.50ljpnope.
18:50.02ljpare you trying mux now?
18:51.01BabelOljp no without mux this time i start in background a little program that ph5 did
18:52.34ljpI think I am ready to start getting multiplexing working
18:54.28BabelOljp:  ive have trying basic multiplexer not the gsm 7.07
18:55.01BabelOonly thing i ve is that with atv0 qtopia hang on loop and with atv1 it segfault :(
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19:06.26zefanjagoxboxlive: i tried it a lot..it was a error in unpacking the rootfs
19:07.34goxboxliveok
19:07.39zefanjagoxboxlive: is there terminal/console in Qtopia?
19:08.20goxboxlivezefanja: so now you have it rnning i hope. Yes there is provided in the OpieII source, but for me it's failing compiling. Use ssh for now.
19:09.09zefanjajpp...do you have success in making calls?
19:09.29zefanjai can't connect to my network
19:09.52ljpsomeone should port konsole 4 to qtopia
19:12.00zefanjagoxboxlive: what is the IP?
19:12.12goxboxlive192.168.0.202
19:12.20zefanjathx
19:18.57goxboxlivecr2: / pH5 / BabelO is there a way that we could have common paths for our devices and like this: "/sys/class/leds/htcuniversal:vibrator/trigger"
19:19.14goxboxlives/like/not like/
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19:34.44BabelOgoxboxlive: yes, we can have common path, it is just related to led driver declaration, else we can handle that in qtopia in an easy way too
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19:35.59goxboxliveBabelO: ok, but i think it's more correct to use common, isent it?
19:37.00BabelOgoxboxlive: yes should be better, don't know why we have device related path, as they are created dyamially, maybe cr2 know what
19:41.46BabelOgoxboxlive: is universal work with atv0 ?
19:43.06goxboxliveBabelO: i dont know, i havent testet. I have just tested ATV0E1
19:43.21goxboxliveIsent ATV0 default, in that casue it doesnt.
19:43.26BabelOah , so it is ok ;)
19:46.14BabelOpH5: BA modem is strange (32)\x2\x2\x16A\x2\x2\x2\x16T+CBC\r+CBC: 0,0\r\x2\x2\x2\x16\n0\r\x2
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20:44.28tre9BabelO: I used the x11 image on linuxtogo and had trouble with usbnet.  Do you know if the GPEphone image works better?
20:45.24pH5BabelO: that looks perfectly fine, it's just in E1 mode.
20:45.48pH5(and it doesn't frame very effectively)
20:46.15BabelOtre9: usbnet works just edit /etc/network/interfaces and add auto usb0 on top of file and add g_ether to /etc
20:46.29BabelOs/etc//etc/modules/
20:47.36tre9ok, I probably forgot g_ether in /etc/modules.  Thank you.  Is GPEphone a better choice at the moment?
20:48.01BabelOno, x11 is better and more stable
20:48.28tre9(this is for blueangel)
20:48.37tre9ok, thanks.
20:51.18BabelOpH5: not really line start with T+CBC :(
20:52.08pH5BabelO: then the line discipline has a bug somewhere
20:52.30BabelO0x16A0x20x20x16T
20:52.33pH5three packets: \x2\x2\x16A\x2 \x2\x2\x16T+CBC\r+CBC: 0,0\r\x2 \x2\x2\x16\n0\r\x2
20:52.50pH5"A", "T+CBC\r+CBC: 0,0\r" and "\n0\r"
20:53.23pH5that should give "AT+CBC\r+CBC: 0,0\r\n0\r"
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21:58.27lamikrcr2 awake?
21:58.42BabelOhi lamikr
21:58.58cr2hi lamikr
21:59.19cr2BabelO: any good news about roadmap ?
21:59.47BabelOcr2: no, but about qtopia yes, i progress in debugging qtopia ;)
22:00.14cr2i've fixed an old warning in the universal's sound. will commit it to CVS. need to add much more alsa knobs to the driver though.
22:00.23cr2ok, debugging qtopia is good.
22:00.39BabelOcr2: ok, goxwill be happy with an alsa sound driver ;)
22:00.51BabelOcr2: yes, i just fix atv0 mode for modem
22:00.54cr2BabelO: do you understand the "reason" for including the machine name in the led name ?
22:01.36cr2~ping lamikr
22:01.37aptpong lamikr
22:01.41BabelOcr2: no, i just follow your sample fromniversal, have you an idea ? so better is to remove it then all our device are compatible
22:02.09cr2it's an idea of psokolovsky. i don't know the rationale.
22:02.33cr2i didn't use the machine names.
22:02.39BabelOok so we have to ask him about
22:02.44cr2ok.
22:03.00cr2imho this data is redundant.
22:03.08BabelOyes agree
22:03.12cr2there can't be multiple machine names on one machine.
22:03.15lamikrcr2 I have now the x2 loaded but in wince... So I quess I will now need to build following to get linux running: 1) gpe image first with familiar or angstrom 2) then the wince-gcc for haret 3) latest kernel from handheld cvs?
22:03.39lamikrthen just copy those to sd card and go ?
22:03.51cr2lamikr: get cegcc
22:04.05cr2for haret and autoboot
22:04.20cr2or just take the BA distribution.
22:04.45cr2i'll advice to use the BA distribution anyway.
22:04.57cr2you only need to adapt the serial port numbers.
22:05.00cr2that's all
22:05.17lamikrBA distribution != angstrom or familiar?
22:05.25cr2angstrom
22:05.29cr2familiar is dead.
22:05.34cr2and outdated.
22:06.01cr2BabelO works on qtopia4, don't know the moko/gpe/gpe2 status.
22:06.42cr2for the kernel you need to consult wiki for the gpio numbers & such. and simply reuse the BA drivers.
22:06.54lamikrDoes BA distribution image have some changes not in the angstrom scripts and app patches?
22:06.57BabelOcr2: latest openmoko start on ba, but hang on incomming call, SMS works
22:07.14cr2anyway, follow the BA development very close, and the magician too.
22:07.43cr2lamikr: can't be of big help in this area.
22:07.44BabelOlamikr: you have an himalaya ?
22:07.59cr2ask me about the kernel and hw info though.
22:08.14cr2BabelO: yes.
22:08.21lamikrBabelO yes, cr2 donated one of his one. I just booted it to wince.
22:08.56BabelOok
22:09.15cr2BabelO: i still have 5 htc phones.
22:09.30cr22 of them are of lkcl :)
22:09.46cr2need to contact him, didn't hear anything for a long time.
22:10.08BabelOcr2: i see he change lot of thing, look at linkedin profile ;)
22:10.39cr2ok.
22:11.26lamikrcr2 So where is the re-build ba image?
22:11.28cr2lamikr: hima is a BA without wifi and spi keyboard. all the rest is mostly the same, so you just need to pick the right gpio pins/irqs.
22:11.40cr2BabelO: ?
22:12.10BabelOcr2: ? i miss something ?
22:12.28cr2lamikr is searching for a prebuilt image.
22:12.46lamikrcr2. ok. Just need to get a little bit more familiar with this. Plan to build once with pre-build binaries and then build everything myself to get again in touch with the process...
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22:13.39cr2lamikr: ok. i#ve given up on oe right now. goxboxlive and BabelO do it.
22:13.41BabelOlamikr: look here  http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/x11-GPE/
22:14.05BabelOimage is compatible with eabi kernel build
22:14.16cr2lamikr: i'm doing a little bit for the kernel, and also roadmap with a great help from tsdogs.
22:15.06lamikrcr2 yes, a little bit :-)
22:15.15cr2lamikr: here are the ba-hima differences: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Serial
22:15.24tsdogscr2: Hi, I'm trying to setup a Qtopia devel env so I can test roadmap with qvfb :)
22:15.39lamikrBabelO Thanks!
22:15.44cr2lamikr: no real kernel coding for a long time. just more RE, it seems to be most important.
22:16.12BabelOlamikr: if you need something else like OE setup file
22:16.35cr2tsdogs: good :)
22:16.46lamikrBabelO Yes, that would be nice as well as the .config used for building the latest kernel.
22:17.04cr2lamikr: use defconfig
22:17.27BabelOlamikr: now you have a htcblueangel_static_defconfig ;) automatically build for latest jernel
22:17.56cr2i have compile hima defconfig kernel and could mount the root by BabelO. the ts driver is missing, so it was not very useful.
22:18.55cr2the ts config is like on BA, just the different pxa gpio pins are used.
22:21.29lamikrBabelO can you send the oe setup file to gmail.  My username is this lamikr also in there.
22:21.37cr2lamikr: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=62.425557&lon=28.631867999999994&zoom=9
22:21.55BabelOlamikr: ok i send you the local.conf file
22:23.09lamikrBabelO thanks
22:23.58lamikrcr2 Are some of those streets made from your info?
22:25.24cr2lamikr: yes, the road from Savonlinna and then till Heinola
22:26.59lamikrcr2 savonlinna-heinävesi?
22:27.35cr2yes. 471 ? or was it 476 ? i forgot.
22:28.02lamikrcr2 So you used the "lossi", (not sure from english name) for crossing one lake with the car when you came to heinävesi from savonlinna?
22:28.08BabelOlamikr: mail sent
22:28.20lamikrBabelO Thanks
22:28.48lamikrBabelO have you build the angstrom image recently?
22:29.19cr2lamikr: yes, it was a great fun at 5:00 to see that the road suddenly came to an end :)
22:29.22BabelOlamikr: recently... my last fresh build ( from scratch) is from 27 July
22:29.33cr2in the middle of nowhere :)
22:30.50lamikrBabelO Ok, so there may be some challenges with new breaks once I got sofar :-)
22:31.12BabelOcr2: have you a ice web page where can i find  at+CFUN return in atv0 mode ?
22:31.35cr2BabelO: hmm. i'll look at my logs
22:32.01lamikrcr2 Yes, was the lossi btw working on that time? I have only went once in this summer to savonlinna and back from here and it was during the day-time.
22:33.17cr2lamikr: yes, they have some fixed timetable, so it was actually a good luck.
22:33.40cr2that i waited 5 mins for it to come.
22:33.50cr2BabelO: +CFUN: 1
22:35.35BabelOcr2: i have this return and also http://pastebin.ca/726137
22:36.56cr2BabelO: it's ok.
22:37.03cr2why is it "Unknown" ?
22:37.45BabelOcr2: i add some trace to qtopia to understand whereit is in the code and this is for unknown event or return
22:38.23cr2ok.
22:39.06cr2does it reply to CTZR ?
22:39.10cr2is 4 and error ?
22:39.20BabelOyes 4 is ERROR
22:39.26cr2ok.
22:40.22BabelOcr2: this is with my custom plugin not finished ;) http://pastebin.ca/726155
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22:43.23cr2BabelO: how does it check for the "headset audio devices" ?
22:43.44cr2i think it's also not very difficult to fix
22:43.47cr2Unable to open '/usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York'
22:43.47cr2QTimeZone::data Can't create a valid data object for 'America/New_York'
22:43.47cr2initEnvironment() Invalid QTimeZone America/New_York
22:44.03BabelOcr2: i m not sure about that, don't know if it look for hci0 or for hci services
22:44.29cr2BabelO: so it's only BT, not the wired headset ?
22:45.28BabelOah yes bt too, i think headset is over plateforme... need to look at fic code
22:45.42cr2on universal i'm pretty sure i'll support the BT headset, if there is some qtopia infrastructure support.
22:46.11cr2ba may be more tricky, because you have some hacky firmware.
22:46.31cr2hima does not have a TI BRF chipset.
22:47.09cr2and is connected to an asic5 uart, which was not studied very well. but should not be a very big broblem too.
22:48.08BabelOcr2: BA display is bad, i see that compared to htc artemis which is smallest but look better
22:48.17cr2BabelO: why don't you disable CPIN ?
22:48.31cr2artemis is 2.8" ?
22:49.12cr2then it's just the 2.8" -> 3.5" dpi difference.
22:49.40cr2universal LCD also looks much better than athena, but athena LCD is big :)
22:50.43BabelOi always keep pin code
22:51.54BabelOcr2: this is sim tool kit ? ATATC=1,"FFFFFFFFFF"
22:52.08cr2AT%SATC ?
22:52.11cr2yes.
22:52.17BabelOok
22:52.35cr2i think there are even some docs about it.
22:53.25cr2AT%SATC, =1,FFFFFF7F00000010, H+BAU, Configuration for SIM Application Toolkit
22:53.55BabelOi send at+creg=2 it return +creg : 2 then time later +creg : 3 with error
22:54.00cr2BabelO: http://www.macrobp.hu/files/M23A AT command.pdf
22:54.02BabelOok
22:54.07cr2hehe
22:54.47cr2the AT%CPI is also documented there.
22:55.40cr2but it's not clear if it 100% applies to calypso
23:02.00BabelOcr2: this documentation is interesting ;)
23:05.02cr2ljp: is it used somewhere these days ?
23:05.08lamikrBabelO Yes, in deed. Need to test some of those in h6300, like the clvl
23:06.01BabelOlamikr: pH5 with at+cvol on magician
23:07.32cr2BabelO: http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia2.2/html/release-2.1.2.html
23:07.54cr2[Phone] Reordered execution of ATATC, ATPI and AT+CFUN.
23:08.03cr2[Phone] Reordered execution of AT%SATC, AT%CPI and AT+CFUN.
23:08.15BabelOah ;)
23:08.31cr2[Phone] Added routines to encode and decode raw SIM toolkit packets, where the modem doesn't provide any decoding support of its own.
23:10.08cr2http://www.simplesolutions-uk.com/datasheets/GSM0308-1X_Enabler IIIG AT command guide.pdf
23:10.31cr2they are included in GSM 11.14
23:10.40cr2but are optional
23:11.56ljpcr2: I use it for the Neo
23:12.11cr2ljp: ok.
23:18.28cr2good night.
23:19.41BabelOcr2: good night
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23:27.51BabelOljp: it seem i miss something after all at command, qtopia just display the start screen and wait , got this on console http://www.simplesolutions-uk.com/datasheets/GSM0308-1X_Enabler IIIG AT command guide.pdf
23:28.09BabelOljp: it seem i miss something after all at command, qtopia just display the start screen and wait , got this on console Did not receive a connection event from the qws server
23:38.23ljplook for two qpe processes
23:39.50BabelOok thanks, so it loop somewhere instead of launching process
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23:41.44Kevin2~ping kevin2
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23:47.14BabelOgood night

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