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07:36.53goxboxlivehi psokolovsky
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09:19.10goxboxliveEhn i try to boot with  haret-0.5.0.exe     i get a message like: Try set the start of RAMADR. and it wouldnt load the kernel zImage. Why is that?
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12:37.23goxboxlivecr2_ are you here?
12:49.33goxboxlivecr2_ anyway, i have made a Qtopia image. The kernel zImage is in the boot folder: get it here and test it: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/O.P.I.E-II/tmp/OpieII-4.3.0.tar.bz
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13:24.37kiozencr2: if i want to update my Zaurus 5500 where is the best place to start?
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15:27.19goxboxlivehi
16:16.04goxboxlivecr2_: awake?
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16:43.53cr2_hi goxboxlive
16:46.37goxboxlivehi cr2_
16:46.44goxboxlivei have had some progress today.
16:47.13cr2_goxboxlive: can you make the next step, and do not distribute zImage ?
16:47.18goxboxliveI edited the broadcast shit message and replaced it with just sending simple "AT"
16:47.25cr2_ok.
16:47.41goxboxlivedont download that image, i can make a better one
16:47.57goxboxlivebut back to my progress.
16:48.14cr2_yes
16:48.16goxboxliveI am now able to make and receive calls and also receive and send sms :-)
16:48.38ImCoKeMaNwow that is awesome
16:48.47goxboxliveYes thats cool
16:49.12ImCoKeMaNwhat device do you have?
16:49.34cr2_universal
16:49.41ImCoKeMaNok
16:51.26goxboxlivecr2_:  what do yu mean about zImage. It is included in the bz file . It's in the boot folder.
16:52.53ImCoKeMaNhey cr2 do you have the source to tadzios toolchain?
16:54.30cr2_goxboxlive: hehe
16:54.42cr2_ImCoKeMaN: which toolchain ?
16:54.53ImCoKeMaNhe has one with a tool called nbmerge
16:55.08ImCoKeMaNit works on hermes and i'd like to see it so i can check to modify it for Titan
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16:56.02ImCoKeMaNthat one works with the 0x200 sector size headers in hermes, i need one that does 0x800 for titan so it should be the easiest tool to mod
16:56.30ImCoKeMaNin the meantime we hacked something together and i put wm5 on my wm6 device to see if i could load a rom from a pdocread dump and it worked
16:56.51ImCoKeMaNsorry i know wm is looked down on in this forum =)
16:57.43cr2_i have no idea :)
17:00.27ImCoKeMaNok, i saw you posting in the thread about some source maybe you were just looking at mamaichs imgfs stuff then
17:01.45goxboxlivecr2_: i am uploading a new image now with the working phone and sms part. Please test it so we can clean it up.
17:03.06cr2_goxboxlive: ok. i'll create the linload-uni.exe
17:03.20goxboxlivegood
17:03.22cr2_i think that distributing zimage is bad.
17:03.34cr2_because it confuses a lot of people.
17:03.47goxboxliveyes i know that, but it's just for testing now. When we have sound we can make such file
17:04.29goxboxlivecr2_: what is the new Haret stuff. It claimes it misses my RAM adress ? I have never added RAM ADR before in my default.txt
17:05.36cr2_it's strange, but i'll check.
17:06.15goxboxliveeverything is upped. Also the zImage. test it
17:06.34cr2_link?
17:10.07cr2_ok, got it.
17:10.25goxboxlivehttp://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/O.P.I.E-II/
17:17.45cr2_goxboxlive: what is ATIIXP-MODEM.conf ?
17:19.28cr2_ok, it's from alsa.
17:20.05goxboxlivehmm ok
17:21.44cr2_does not fit in 103MB :(
17:22.02goxboxlive:-)
17:22.46cr2_i'll take the bigger card. but only with 1 linux partition.
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17:32.24cr2_goxboxlive: 134MB
17:37.45goxboxlive:-)
17:39.59cr2_goxboxlive: yes, it asks me about RAMADDR
17:42.04cr2_openmoko ??
17:43.25cr2_unknown group "netdev" in messagebus
17:43.46cr2_VNC ?
17:44.02cr2_No network.
17:44.34cr2_that's ok, the phone is locked, and i've locked the pin and forgot the puk.
17:44.49cr2_so i can't use a differnet card on it.
17:44.59goxboxlivecr2_: yes it's openmoko distro
17:45.03cr2_hmm.
17:45.26cr2_i have another t-mob sim
17:45.30goxboxliveyes i have vnc plugin, it's ok sometimes
17:45.41goxboxlive:-) no PUK
17:45.56cr2_we need own own splash.
17:46.04goxboxliveAhh that's why you dont create any sounddriver to it :-)
17:46.22cr2_the screen does not rotate
17:46.30goxboxliveYes, thats doable. But not onmy priority list. I want GPRS working
17:46.56goxboxliveyes i knwo. But first of all we need system sound working. And i just dont know how Qtopia does it.
17:47.11goxboxliveIn Openmoko the sound just work, but Qtopia we have never had it working
17:48.06cr2_the lcd quality is amazing.
17:48.12goxboxliveyes
17:49.42goxboxlivecr2_: do you have any idea why the Operator name doesnt show ut. The only thing is a "0"
17:50.16cr2_it depends on the phone setting and modem response.
17:50.29cr2_hmm. i forgot the pin for another sim card.
17:50.42cr2_but it can be found :)
17:50.48cr2_not right now.
17:51.24goxboxliveyou better turn pin codes of like i am .
17:53.22cr2_it#s ok on the prepaid cards.
17:54.05cr2_qtopia is much faster than on ba :)
17:56.15cr2_hmm.
17:56.21goxboxliverealy,why is that. Uni hasent that much faster cpu and BA has more RAM. Also graphics should be fatser on BA
17:56.40cr2_how do i get out of the phone ?
17:56.57cr2_it shows the lock, and says 'Please Wait...'
17:57.03goxboxlive?? back to the shell?
17:57.27cr2_no, back to the main qtopia screen.
17:57.44goxboxliveahhh, i have no idea cr2. I havent tested it without sim. But i have seen the screen, because it goes there before it connects to the network
17:58.02cr2_ok.
17:58.08cr2_should be a bug then :)
17:58.44cr2_maybe BabelO did something strange on ba.
17:59.04goxboxliveok
17:59.07cr2_that's why i'm so strongly advocating to have only 1 distro.
17:59.37cr2_btw, is the USB net enabled by default ?
17:59.48goxboxliveyes i have edited it
17:59.53cr2_and how do i control wifi ?
17:59.55goxboxlive202
18:00.08cr2_we talked with BabelO that there is no toplevel wifi icon
18:00.21cr2_but there is on for IR and BT
18:00.27cr2_s/on/one/
18:00.36goxboxliveyes and sms :-) and roaming
18:00.47goxboxlivei havent tested wifi
18:01.38cr2_ok, what is the USB IP?
18:04.01goxboxlivethe usual 192.168.0.202
18:04.09cr2_goxboxlive: what is the purpose of the lock icon ?
18:04.18cr2_202 on which side ?
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18:04.31goxboxlivetest it, it's cool (the one in right)
18:04.36cr2_usual ? afair gpe and opie had different addresses.
18:04.52goxboxliveno it's distro depended
18:04.59cr2_it hangs my screen.
18:05.13goxboxliveand familiar/openmoko/angstrom has the same
18:05.30goxboxlive?? why
18:06.08cr2_i can't get out of it.
18:06.19cr2_btw, on the homescreen.
18:06.29cr2_what is 'Location' ?
18:06.41cr2_the cell number ?
18:07.23cr2_hehe. 134MB and only the 'US' language.
18:09.21cr2_BT not available ?
18:11.55goxboxliveYou have to bring BT up first from the shell. Dont know why
18:12.34goxboxliveI dont know, i have added Location mys self, but i cant see any diffrents
18:13.32cr2_the BT absense is a bug.
18:13.45cr2_we can check what the location means.
18:13.51cr2_i doubt it's gps.
18:14.07cr2_probably the cell number you get with CREG=2
18:14.52goxboxliveok
18:15.35cr2_why i'm locked out with 'lock' ?
18:15.48cr2_what does it mean anyway :)
18:17.46goxboxliveno idea
18:18.12cr2_ok.
18:18.28cr2_is there any style guide for developing qtopia apps ?
18:18.54cr2_i see only some qtopia2 stuff on qtopia.net
18:19.38goxboxlivedont ask me
18:20.41cr2_ok :)
18:20.51cr2_can you add some more languages ?
18:21.03goxboxlivecr2_: there arent any available
18:21.09cr2_?
18:21.12cr2_really ?
18:24.13goxboxliveyes
18:25.25cr2_weird.
18:26.01cr2_ok, i'm quite happy with the current state :)
18:26.29cr2_we need to fix the sound and bt.
18:27.15cr2_Mixer is a simply mixer application for the Qtopia Greenphone. Source Code package.
18:28.05cr2_sounds good.
18:28.32cr2_goxboxlive: are qtopia icons svg ?
18:30.49goxboxliveyes
18:30.59goxboxlivecr2_: i have a "G" in the top
18:31.11goxboxliveI have added /dev/tyUSB0.
18:31.11cr2_U ? :)
18:32.07goxboxliveno just a G
18:32.43cr2_ok, maybe U icon is missing.
18:33.04cr2_i can see the svg, 16x16,32x32 and 48x48 icons.
18:33.26cr2_but what is the purpose of 14x14 and 22x22 ?
18:36.10goxboxlivecr2_: maybe because Greenphone has so small svreen
18:36.17goxboxlives/svreen/screen/
18:36.36goxboxliveI'll try restarting Qtopia, couldnt connect sending mms
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18:56.24goxboxliveno luck yet
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18:58.53RubberducHi
18:59.02goxboxlivehi
18:59.04Rubberducdoes anyone know what the chipset of the built in
18:59.07Rubberducwifi-module is
18:59.16Rubberducin the HTC BLue angel/qtek 9090
18:59.16Rubberduc?
19:00.56Rubberducnoone?
19:02.03goxboxliveacx100
19:02.05cr2_Rubberduc: acx100
19:02.08goxboxlive:-)
19:02.13cr2_but it#s a bad name
19:02.46Rubberducfrom texas instruments?
19:03.10cr2_TNETW1100
19:03.16cr2_yes.
19:03.32cr2_have a look here: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HandheldHardwareXref
19:03.37Rubberducwhich one is it now TNET# or the axc100 one
19:03.59cr2_acx100 is more of a marketing name.
19:04.02Rubberducaaah
19:04.05Rubberducit's the same one
19:04.10Rubberducthank you very much
19:04.24Rubberducdoes anyone here have experience with aircrack and the acx100?
19:04.30cr2_TNETW1250 is also called acx100
19:04.40cr2_but it's not a 22mbit but 54mbit chipset.
19:04.57Rubberducnice
19:04.58cr2_no idea.
19:05.07Rubberduci see it's compatible with aircrack
19:05.36cr2_wifi on ba works, but is a bit tricky to configure.
19:05.55cr2_ask BabelO when he appears.
19:06.27Rubberducba?
19:06.35Rubberducblue angel:D
19:06.36Rubberducsorry
19:16.20smevhmm is there anyway to run wep cracking software on wm6 ?
19:18.11Rubberducwm6?
19:20.30Rubberducwindows mobile
19:20.35Rubberduci;m gonna use linux
20:05.27goxboxlivehmmm gprs just wouldnt work
20:09.51goxboxlivecr2_: ljp tells me that Qtopia is missing the wap_stack. SO i guess thats why i cant have MMS working then
20:10.06cr2_ok.
20:11.31goxboxlivecr2_: do you have any clue how sound is handled in Qtopia?
20:13.40cr2_no, but there should be some glue alsa code
20:13.53cr2_can you compile this qtopia mixer app ?
20:14.01cr2_AT+CGMI
20:14.15cr2_does it return "HTC" ?
20:15.55ljplook at QAudioState
20:16.08ljpand the audiohardware plugins in greenphone or neo
20:16.13goxboxlivecr2_: the mixer app is included in the opieII image i made. But it is buggy.
20:16.32ljpya, it freezes on exit ;(
20:16.39goxboxliveright, why is that?
20:16.43ljpi was just working on mixer yesterday
20:16.49goxboxlivegood
20:16.50ljpI have no idea
20:17.10ljpmight need to run it through gdb
20:17.14goxboxlivewhat about the console app? I cant compile it
20:18.04cr2_goxboxlive: do you have vibra support ?
20:18.09cr2_i guess not.
20:18.21cr2_we need to override the QModemVibrateAccessory
20:18.36goxboxlivecr2_: yes, the vibra works when i get a call or a sms
20:18.40cr2_because it's not an AT command for us.
20:18.45cr2_?
20:18.45goxboxliveit's hardcoded :-D
20:18.48cr2_ok.
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