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| 05:56.30 | snipes | im trying to boot linux on a htc apache using the information on the ApacheLinux wiki page |
| 05:56.55 | snipes | the kernel boots and it shows there are 2 partitions on my mmc card |
| 05:57.08 | snipes | but it can't seem to find the root fs on it |
| 05:57.57 | snipes | im using the latest haret and the familiar image mentioned on the wiki page |
| 05:59.09 | snipes | the kernel is the latest from http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/HTCApache/testimages/ |
| 05:59.34 | snipes | is there any info i can provide to help someone help me sort it out? |
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| 06:23.29 | zefanja | morning...is there anybody who make a Qtopia 4.3 image for htc universal? |
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| 09:36.16 | goxboxlive | HI |
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| 16:08.42 | goxboxlive | whats this: PorterDuff modes not supported on device |
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| 16:24.12 | goxboxlive | cr2_: there? |
| 17:19.21 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: back here. |
| 17:21.55 | goxboxlive | hi cr2_ |
| 17:22.04 | cr2_ | hi |
| 17:22.19 | goxboxlive | cr2_: why doesnt universal need a multiplexer? We have gprs on ttyUSB0 |
| 17:22.31 | goxboxlive | and modem on ttyS1 |
| 17:22.45 | goxboxlive | I am able to bring up ttyUSB0 with Qtopia |
| 17:23.07 | goxboxlive | So why cant we have GPRS working like other phones? |
| 17:25.09 | cr2_ | because they are already _de_-multiplexed. |
| 17:25.22 | cr2_ | multiplexing means they use 1 device. |
| 17:27.26 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:27.37 | goxboxlive | so they are allready multiplexed |
| 17:28.22 | cr2_ | demultiplexed. |
| 17:28.30 | cr2_ | you have 2 devices. |
| 17:28.45 | cr2_ | blueangel too |
| 17:29.05 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 17:29.07 | cr2_ | but the modem serial port needs demultiplexing. |
| 17:29.18 | cr2_ | so there is some difference. |
| 17:29.23 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:29.39 | cr2_ | there are phones where everything is multiplexed on one device. |
| 17:29.51 | cr2_ | universal is the easiest one. |
| 17:31.07 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:33.27 | cr2_ | you don't need to separate(==demultiplex) the data, it's already separated. just open the port and read/write it. |
| 17:36.40 | goxboxlive | cr2_: i have just opened it. |
| 17:37.04 | goxboxlive | it's there. Now i only need Qtopia to understand that ttyUSB0 is the data port |
| 17:37.42 | goxboxlive | I hate this: |
| 17:37.44 | goxboxlive | AtChat : T : "AT+COPS?" |
| 17:37.44 | goxboxlive | AtChat : N : "@HTCCSQ: 2" |
| 17:37.44 | goxboxlive | AtChat : F : "+COPS: 0,2,"24201",2" |
| 17:37.44 | goxboxlive | AtChat : F : "OK" |
| 17:37.44 | goxboxlive | AtChat : T : "AT+CSCB=0,"50"" |
| 17:37.45 | goxboxlive | AtChat : F : "+CMS ERROR: 302@HTCCSQ: 4" |
| 17:37.47 | goxboxlive | AtChat : T : "AT+CSCB=0,"50"" |
| 17:37.54 | goxboxlive | It's blocking my outgoing calls |
| 17:40.23 | cr2_ | CMS ERROR 302 means "Operation not allowed" |
| 17:41.45 | cr2_ | why do you need cell broadcast ? |
| 17:46.41 | goxboxlive | cr2_: is AT+CSCB cellbroadcast? |
| 17:48.14 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 17:53.26 | goxboxlive | Ok,it seems like it's from the Qtopia source then. Hva eno idea how to override that |
| 17:55.00 | cr2_ | ./doc/html/atcommands.html |
| 17:55.12 | cr2_ | ./doc/html/qmodemcellbroadcast.html |
| 17:55.53 | cr2_ | ./src/libraries/qtopiaphonemodem/qmodemcellbroadcast.cpp |
| 17:57.03 | cr2_ | AT+CSCB=1 |
| 17:57.11 | cr2_ | i have only that in the logs |
| 17:57.54 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:59.57 | cr2_ | it means reject CB |
| 18:00.22 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:00.27 | cr2_ | http://www.nobbi.com/atgsm.htm#+cscb |
| 18:00.38 | cr2_ | this page says 3 params. |
| 18:20.59 | ljp | looks like its giving CMS for HTCCSQ |
| 18:21.39 | ljp | hmm. weird |
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| 18:25.10 | goxboxlive | ljp: where do i disable at+cscb? How do i do it? |
| 18:26.19 | ljp | i can ask the comm guy |
| 18:26.35 | ljp | but it will be a few hours still |
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| 18:28.25 | goxboxlive | ljp: did you ask about Helix the other day? |
| 18:35.22 | goxboxlive | hmm whle think. Isent cellbroadcasting a sim settings. I think it can be disabled via the sim |
| 18:42.03 | ljp | yes, I did submit a bug report about the helix sources not working |
| 18:42.41 | goxboxlive | good |
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| 21:19.53 | TimRiker | anyone reported hacking the kaiser yet? |
| 21:21.54 | cr2_ | TimRiker: what do you mean by hacking ? |
| 21:23.40 | TimRiker | booting linux on it. |
| 21:23.51 | cr2_ | no. |
| 21:24.09 | cr2_ | working without any CPU docs is not going to be fast. |
| 21:24.47 | cr2_ | i've began to work on the address space, but it needs more effort to assign the regions to functions. |
| 21:25.16 | cr2_ | like: where are the 3 serial ports, where is MDDI1, MDDI2, etc. |
| 21:25.36 | cr2_ | i'm even not quite sure where is the NAND controller. |
| 21:25.55 | cr2_ | and without having a physical device it's not going to be easy anyway. |
| 21:27.06 | cr2_ | here is the wiki link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanMemoryMap |
| 21:29.06 | ImCoKeMaN | kaiser is diff than titan, but i guess similar on many ways |
| 21:30.27 | cr2_ | ImCoKeMaN: i didn't find any _real_ CPU differences so far. |
| 21:31.04 | TimRiker | cr2_: how are you finding differences? |
| 21:31.32 | cr2_ | by looking at the wince binaries. |
| 21:31.44 | TimRiker | ah. |
| 21:31.48 | cr2_ | the address space structure, and debug messages. |
| 21:32.25 | cr2_ | the address map is exactly the same |
| 21:32.33 | TimRiker | do you have ce test apps to dump info like this? |
| 21:32.48 | cr2_ | but the cpus are named differently. msm7500 and msm7200 |
| 21:33.22 | cr2_ | the main wince tool is haret, but it doesn't have gpio tracing for msm yet. |
| 21:33.32 | cr2_ | though the gpio data is available. |
| 21:33.43 | TimRiker | k |
| 21:34.03 | cr2_ | by tracing the memory accesses to the "unknown" regions it may be possible to get more data. |
| 21:34.18 | cr2_ | i guess it will be easy to find the GPS uart. |
| 21:34.51 | cr2_ | then there is SIM uart |
| 21:34.54 | cr2_ | and so on. |
| 21:35.14 | TimRiker | there's no visual indication of gps activity, so I expect you would have to actually get data back from it. |
| 21:35.56 | cr2_ | hmm. they don#t use sirf3 ? |
| 21:36.54 | TimRiker | well, I expect there are pins exposed if you open the device, but I meant an led etc. |
| 21:37.41 | cr2_ | we can boot with a ramdisk LCD penguin just for fun, but it will not move us forward. |
| 21:37.52 | cr2_ | it seems most of the functions are on the CPU |
| 21:38.11 | cr2_ | there is a functional CPU diagramm somewhere. |
| 21:38.49 | cr2_ | http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7500_chipset.pdf |
| 21:39.06 | TimRiker | it does not seem to do well with gps indoors as compared to, say, a helio ocean. |
| 21:39.41 | cr2_ | you have the kaiser ? |
| 21:41.18 | TimRiker | yeah, just got ahold of an unit for eval. |
| 21:41.41 | cr2_ | can you run haret on it ? |
| 21:42.28 | TimRiker | where do I get one that might be useful? |
| 21:42.31 | cr2_ | i guess it's called KAIS10000 |
| 21:42.43 | cr2_ | http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret |
| 21:42.54 | cr2_ | haret-0.5.0.exe |
| 21:43.24 | cr2_ | is kaiser registered in the linux.org.uk db ? |
| 21:43.34 | TimRiker | dunno |
| 21:43.48 | smev | sup |
| 21:43.48 | cr2_ | it's a good idea to do it. |
| 21:44.01 | TimRiker | if it's really so much like the tytn, perhaps one arch would be cleaner. |
| 21:44.16 | ImCoKeMaN | tytn is not Titan |
| 21:44.20 | smev | cr2_: did you ever look into the kaiser enough to know if its possible to redirect sound out the earpiece ? |
| 21:44.21 | ImCoKeMaN | tytn is hermes |
| 21:44.52 | TimRiker | er sry. meant titan. |
| 21:45.22 | ImCoKeMaN | no prob just makin sure cuz its a pretty confusing naming scheme |
| 21:45.52 | cr2_ | tytn aka hermes has a samsung CPU. it's a completely different beast. |
| 21:46.07 | cr2_ | smev: no. it's a really difficult job, as i've said. |
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