| 00:00.37 | cr2_ | so, if you have the canvas on the screen |
| 00:00.38 | tsdogs | yes, don't know if we should do the same here. |
| 00:00.51 | cr2_ | you know the m/pix |
| 00:01.08 | cr2_ | hmm. not really. we need to switch to spheric mercator first... |
| 00:01.37 | cr2_ | but approximately. for small zoom numbers. |
| 00:02.18 | cr2_ | so. and you have the raster map |
| 00:02.25 | cr2_ | where you also know m/pix |
| 00:03.06 | cr2_ | then you probably need to set an upper zoom limit for the raster. |
| 00:03.06 | tsdogs | are we not using mercator in actual roadmap? |
| 00:03.34 | cr2_ | after some zooming it dos not make sense anymore. but qpegps should have done something similar. |
| 00:03.36 | cr2_ | no. |
| 00:03.55 | cr2_ | we use long/lat*cos(lat) |
| 00:04.08 | tsdogs | ok so I need to use proj4 for conversion? |
| 00:04.10 | tsdogs | ho ok |
| 00:04.31 | cr2_ | sph. mercator is long/log(tan(pi/4+lat)) |
| 00:04.36 | cr2_ | of something like that :) |
| 00:04.51 | cr2_ | not really proj4. |
| 00:04.59 | cr2_ | it's log(tan(pi/4+lat)) |
| 00:05.16 | cr2_ | there may be some integer approximation. |
| 00:05.30 | cr2_ | if you have loooked into the code, there are cos() tables there. |
| 00:05.36 | cr2_ | for cos(lat) |
| 00:05.48 | tsdogs | qpegps code? |
| 00:05.54 | cr2_ | no. roadmap |
| 00:06.01 | tsdogs | I only looked at the rasterIo right now. |
| 00:06.21 | cr2_ | the Y values are rescaled by cos/lat) |
| 00:06.43 | cr2_ | otherwise at 60° you'll get 1:2 metric distortion. |
| 00:07.36 | cr2_ | ok, if we first forget gdal |
| 00:07.47 | cr2_ | imagine you have your area in google tiles. |
| 00:07.50 | cr2_ | 256x256 |
| 00:07.55 | cr2_ | with 1.2m/pix |
| 00:08.00 | cr2_ | z=17 afair |
| 00:08.21 | cr2_ | and they are in the ram as QImages |
| 00:08.22 | tsdogs | is it 1.2 or 1,9 ? |
| 00:08.34 | cr2_ | i think z=17 is 1.2 |
| 00:08.38 | tsdogs | ok |
| 00:08.50 | cr2_ | 1.2 is a realistic number. |
| 00:08.58 | cr2_ | it's 60cm*2 |
| 00:09.18 | cr2_ | they often talk about 60cm resolution |
| 00:09.49 | cr2_ | so how are you going to render them into canvas qpixmap. |
| 00:10.28 | cr2_ | if m/pix on the LCD = m/pix on the image, then it#s trivial :) |
| 00:10.50 | cr2_ | otherwise we need some logic behind it. |
| 00:11.00 | cr2_ | of course you can rely on RasterIO |
| 00:11.21 | cr2_ | but then you may get horrible results ;) |
| 00:11.46 | tsdogs | ok, so we should switch rdm to use mercator right? |
| 00:12.04 | cr2_ | we may want to lock roadmap zoom levels to the raster m/pix |
| 00:12.12 | cr2_ | in principle, yes. |
| 00:12.16 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 00:12.43 | tsdogs | I have no idea though what those zoom levels whould be. |
| 00:13.17 | cr2_ | kiozen will need to reproject his maps, but mercator is global, while his maps are limited in size and area. |
| 00:13.26 | cr2_ | google zooms are fixed. |
| 00:13.53 | cr2_ | you always know m/pix, because it doubles from 1.2 |
| 00:14.02 | cr2_ | 1.2*2^z |
| 00:14.17 | tsdogs | ok, now i get why 17 is 1.2 |
| 00:14.41 | tsdogs | cr2_: did you remove something 'cause of missing load_image in current cvs? |
| 00:14.43 | cr2_ | 2*pi*R/2^17*360 |
| 00:14.59 | cr2_ | R=average earth radius |
| 00:15.12 | cr2_ | don't think so |
| 00:15.40 | cr2_ | i did not sync win32/gtk/gtk2/win32 subdirs |
| 00:15.53 | tsdogs | that's ok |
| 00:16.03 | cr2_ | and qt3 too |
| 00:16.18 | tsdogs | 'cause the headers had it, but there was no implementation |
| 00:16.37 | tsdogs | but I don't see it used anywhere in the source right now |
| 00:16.40 | cr2_ | it comes from gtk2 or wince implementation in roadmap_editor |
| 00:16.50 | cr2_ | gtk2 ? |
| 00:17.06 | tsdogs | yes, I have that code working with roadmap_editor. |
| 00:17.36 | tsdogs | anyway I ported the load_image functions, but they are not used right now. |
| 00:18.52 | cr2_ | ok, then more porting from roadmap_editor is needed. |
| 00:19.15 | tsdogs | in editor it is used for the obj |
| 00:19.45 | tsdogs | and the res |
| 00:20.03 | cr2_ | you need your own new file |
| 00:20.04 | tsdogs | I think that obj are for buttons |
| 00:20.08 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 00:20.19 | cr2_ | for the transparent png icons |
| 00:20.27 | cr2_ | simitransparent |
| 00:20.36 | cr2_ | s/sim/sem/ |
| 00:20.38 | tsdogs | no idea what resources are in editor |
| 00:20.57 | cr2_ | to make it tomtom-like |
| 00:21.06 | tsdogs | ok are for routing skins |
| 00:21.49 | cr2_ | create a new file roadmap_overlay.c |
| 00:21.53 | cr2_ | or something like that. |
| 00:22.11 | tsdogs | cr2_: I was more like a roadmap_gdal_plugin |
| 00:22.18 | tsdogs | or geotiff |
| 00:22.41 | tsdogs | and extend the plugin callbacks to call this plugin |
| 00:22.51 | cr2_ | you should separate it from the provider. |
| 00:22.59 | cr2_ | it can be ozf2 after all :) |
| 00:23.16 | tsdogs | I have implemented the zoom plugin, but right now it gets called all the time a layer is drawed |
| 00:23.32 | tsdogs | ok so roadmap_ozf2_plugin |
| 00:23.39 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 00:23.51 | cr2_ | check the ozi ce, btw. |
| 00:24.12 | tsdogs | ozi ce? you got a link? |
| 00:24.40 | cr2_ | http://www.oziexplorer3.com/ozice/oziexplorerce1.html |
| 00:26.14 | cr2_ | These are the limitations of the Evaluation version. |
| 00:26.15 | cr2_ | Moving map mode (communication with the GPS) will only remain active for 20 mins each time OziExplorerCE is run and then 10 mins after that (until restarted). At the end of these times a dialog will be displayed and communication will be deactivated. |
| 00:26.15 | cr2_ | A watermark using the text "Demo Version" will be drawn onto the map. |
| 00:26.15 | cr2_ | Other than for the restrictions mentioned above, the evaluation version works exactly the same as the purchased version. |
| 00:28.48 | tsdogs | ok so basically it's a map explorer like roadmap, but it uses the raster. |
| 00:29.09 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 00:29.32 | cr2_ | vector is good for route planning, and it's small. |
| 00:29.44 | tsdogs | I wonder what the much much more is :) |
| 00:29.46 | cr2_ | raster is good for the details. |
| 00:30.00 | cr2_ | and for older maps. |
| 00:30.14 | cr2_ | nowdays raster is produced from vector :) |
| 00:30.20 | tsdogs | yes so using raster would not need water anymore... :) only routes |
| 00:30.35 | cr2_ | well, and google too :) |
| 00:30.41 | tsdogs | :) |
| 00:31.02 | cr2_ | ok, it's getting late . |
| 00:31.06 | cr2_ | good night :) |
| 00:31.13 | tsdogs | ok good night |
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| 07:59.42 | Finve | hi all |
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| 08:12.47 | pH5 | hi Finve, the kernel is built and uploaded already. But I still have to test it. |
| 08:13.18 | Finve | ok, i will test it |
| 08:14.15 | Finve | after i end my report on enlightment... ^^ |
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| 08:26.58 | Finve | ph5, good news - x starts? did you find out what it was? |
| 08:27.07 | Finve | /dev/input/event0 problem? |
| 08:27.31 | pH5 | Finve: yes. the kernel I pointed you to yesterday must have still had the problem |
| 08:27.35 | Finve | bad news - first what i see is "dialer: error connecting to gsmd"...i will start it manually |
| 08:27.44 | pH5 | the kernel I uploaded today is not really -hh16, but -hh16 + some fixes from cvs |
| 08:29.20 | Finve | the phone is /dev/ttyS0 ? |
| 08:30.05 | Finve | ph5, oh no, touchscreen doesnt work |
| 08:30.38 | pH5 | Finve: ttyS1. ttyS0 is the data channel for gprs |
| 08:30.52 | Finve | ok |
| 08:31.34 | Finve | magician freezed oO |
| 08:31.42 | Finve | never seen a freezed linux :) |
| 08:32.46 | pH5 | locked completely, no ssh access? I haven't seen that in quite some time on the magician :) |
| 08:33.00 | Finve | no ssh, no ping |
| 08:34.43 | Finve | is it possible to completelly flash magician so linux boots after a hard reset? |
| 08:35.21 | pH5 | Finve: Not yet. I have to write a bootloader for that. |
| 08:35.48 | Finve | ok, but its possible to accsess this part of flash rom? |
| 08:36.17 | Finve | *access |
| 08:37.07 | pH5 | Finve: yes. load the physmap and mtdblock kernel modules and you get the wince partitions (bootloader, osrom, extrom, etc.) as /dev/mtblock* devices. |
| 08:37.24 | Finve | that cool |
| 08:37.32 | Finve | *thats |
| 08:38.07 | Finve | it freezed again... |
| 08:38.21 | Finve | maybe its because i have 0% of main batterie |
| 08:38.27 | Finve | i will charge it for some time |
| 08:38.48 | pH5 | no, it's probably some incompatibility between the new kernel image and the modules that you downloaded from the feed. |
| 08:39.16 | pH5 | I'll upload a module tarball. |
| 08:39.17 | Finve | maybe |
| 08:39.29 | Finve | then i will try to access logs |
| 08:39.42 | Finve | is it possible to boot in some kind of safe mode? |
| 08:39.46 | pH5 | if the battery runs low, it'll just turn off |
| 08:39.51 | pH5 | Finve: safe mode? |
| 08:40.09 | Finve | well, like in ubuntu, in init 3 |
| 08:41.52 | pH5 | maybe with the "single" kernel cmdline parameter. |
| 08:42.22 | pH5 | I'm not sure how to set the init runlevel from kernel cmdline, but that should be possible, too. |
| 08:43.25 | Finve | ubuntu uses also singe parameter |
| 08:43.38 | Finve | single |
| 08:50.59 | Finve | ph5, magician doesn't boot with single option, it freezed on the splash screen and i cant get ssh access |
| 08:51.35 | pH5 | Finve: not good. you can disable the splash with psplash=false, btw. |
| 08:52.18 | Finve | ok, but i dont know if it makes sence...i am still not able to access the phone |
| 08:52.51 | pH5 | Finve: I'm not sure if it starts dropbear in single user mode. |
| 08:52.55 | Finve | ssh deamon should start as early as possible |
| 08:53.48 | Finve | did you tried it on your phone? |
| 08:54.02 | Finve | i mean this new kernel |
| 08:56.11 | pH5 | Finve: I'll ping you when I did. Currently, the test image is still building. |
| 08:56.20 | Finve | ok |
| 08:56.35 | Finve | ill return to my enlightment report |
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| 10:15.24 | pH5 | Finve: I've uploaded a modules-2.6.21-hh16.tar.bz2 |
| 10:15.40 | pH5 | the kernel works, including sound/touchscreen/keys/etc. with my test image |
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| 10:32.22 | Finve | ph5, is it the image you uploaded? |
| 10:33.01 | pH5 | Finve: no, I didn't upload the image because I only have experimental angstrom 2008.1 builds and there are some xserver bugs left that have to be ironed out before it is usable. |
| 10:33.02 | Finve | ok, didnt read the message before |
| 10:33.05 | Finve | ill try it |
| 10:33.22 | pH5 | just take the rootfs you have and replace the kernel modules with the new ones. |
| 10:47.50 | Finve | ph5, booting.... |
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| 10:48.43 | Finve | systen check... ;) |
| 10:48.48 | Finve | touch screen works |
| 10:48.59 | Finve | Dialer: error setting antenna power |
| 10:49.41 | Finve | usb hotpluging works |
| 10:49.50 | Finve | ssh works ;) |
| 10:50.50 | Finve | and i like this new smaller fonts |
| 10:56.02 | Finve | ok, i can call |
| 10:56.12 | Finve | ph5, but i cant hang up calls |
| 10:56.20 | Finve | i killed the dialer then |
| 10:56.34 | Finve | and now it is defunct and i cant start it again |
| 10:58.31 | Finve | kill -9 doenst work |
| 10:58.48 | Finve | i thought kill -9 works always ;) |
| 10:59.17 | pH5 | the openmoko programs can break (and work again) almost daily :/ |
| 11:00.26 | Finve | development version, i know |
| 11:00.46 | Finve | is there a way to kill the dialer |
| 11:01.27 | pH5 | if kill -9 doesn't work, I don't think so. Try to kill Xfbdev |
| 11:04.49 | Finve | ph5, it worked, thx |
| 11:09.59 | Finve | is there a way to read contacts from my sim card? |
| 11:13.10 | pH5 | i don't know how far the phonebook implementation in libgsmd-tool is |
| 11:13.25 | pH5 | you can do it with at commands, but I'm sure openmoko-contacts has no support for that yet |
| 11:13.42 | Finve | ok |
| 11:17.44 | Finve | even hangup with libgsmd doesnt work |
| 11:18.40 | Finve | AT+CMGF=0 is hangup? |
| 11:26.15 | Finve | ph5, is there i command to turn off the display light? |
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| 11:26.59 | pH5 | bl |
| 11:27.15 | pH5 | and if that is not installed, echo $VAL > /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness |
| 11:39.07 | Finve | bl says unable to open /dev/touchscreen/0...i dont even habe /dev/touchscreen |
| 11:46.41 | pH5 | yeah, that's ancient. |
| 11:51.38 | Finve | is there a way to set some sort of watcher on power button press, so that brightness is set to 0 |
| 11:54.52 | pH5 | Finve: look at keylaunch sources for gpe images or neod sources for openmoko images. |
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| 13:48.27 | cr2_ | hi |
| 13:54.31 | Finve | hi cr2_ |
| 14:00.44 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 14:13.35 | cr2_ | BabelO: what do we know about powering up/down the TI calypso on ba ? |
| 14:14.26 | BabelO | cr2_: nothing, it seem we have only reset sequence i put in blueangel_phone.c |
| 14:28.19 | cr2_ | ok, but it may be a complete powerdown. who knows. |
| 14:28.27 | cr2_ | is is consistent with magician ? |
| 14:28.57 | cr2_ | i've looked at himalaya too, but lost my notes somewher.e |
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| 14:33.23 | cr2_ | hi goxboxlive |
| 14:35.12 | goxboxlive | hi cr2_ |
| 14:35.56 | goxboxlive | I just came back from Germany. Real warm wheater down there. Up here, grey, cold and wet :-) |
| 14:36.20 | goxboxlive | Has BabelO manage to get the phone working with Qtopia? |
| 14:40.53 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 14:40.59 | cr2_ | i've tried it too. |
| 14:41.14 | cr2_ | not the phone working, but qtopia. |
| 14:41.35 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 14:43.27 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO , have you tested the phonelibs while i have been gone? |
| 14:43.54 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes, but it seem my ba modem have some trouble |
| 14:44.06 | BabelO | i think you can test gta plugins |
| 14:44.45 | goxboxlive | BabelO: that's what i have been testing before i traveld. I builded the GTA01 source, just editing the ports |
| 14:44.51 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i m rewwritingdriver according to our multiplexer like on magician/ba, that's part is ok |
| 14:45.03 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 14:45.38 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: we have a real summer weather now ;-) |
| 14:45.47 | goxboxlive | This is hoe far i got with the Universal and the GAT01 source |
| 14:45.51 | goxboxlive | : http://pastebin.no/2613 |
| 14:46.07 | goxboxlive | cr2_: yes absolute :-) |
| 14:47.07 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes, but switch to atv1 mode |
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| 15:01.43 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 15:03.10 | goxboxlive | BabelO: wich file? |
| 15:03.54 | BabelO | htcphonemultiplexer.cpp, there is ("ATE0") just replace ("ATV1E0") na dstart make again ;) |
| 15:12.33 | goxboxlive | ok, booting |
| 15:20.35 | goxboxlive | hahah I have the phone working :-) Not the mic though |
| 15:20.59 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ah ah :) mic is in audioharwareplugin |
| 15:21.02 | goxboxlive | I also haveto fix ath |
| 15:21.12 | goxboxlive | Or maybe in alsamixer |
| 15:21.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ath is easy to found in vendor_htcphone.cpp :) |
| 15:21.41 | goxboxlive | even the signal level is working |
| 15:22.41 | BabelO | goxboxlive: operator name ? |
| 15:23.05 | goxboxlive | no |
| 15:23.12 | cr2_ | why? |
| 15:23.34 | goxboxlive | it's a litlle unstable though |
| 15:23.39 | BabelO | goxboxlive: you are logged into network ? |
| 15:25.01 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes i am able to receive calls |
| 15:25.19 | BabelO | goxboxlive: so sms should work too |
| 15:25.27 | goxboxlive | I had to restart Qtopia, because it thought i still was in a actove call. |
| 15:25.49 | goxboxlive | Is the "ath" also in multiplexer file?? |
| 15:26.10 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no, it is in phonevendor/htcphone/vendor_htcphone.cpp |
| 15:26.21 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 15:26.23 | BabelO | goxboxlive: and also some other at command are here |
| 15:28.00 | cr2_ | BabelO: how does it detect the operator ? |
| 15:28.32 | BabelO | cr2_: with cops notification |
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| 15:34.08 | cr2_ | BabelO: hm. then why does it not work ? |
| 15:35.34 | BabelO | cr2_: need atChat trace to know return, maybe operator name database ;) |
| 15:39.40 | BabelO | cr2_: it is in qmodemnetworkregistration.cpp function queryRegistration and parseAvailableOperator |
| 15:40.05 | BabelO | cr2_: we need to know if universal support AT+COPS=3,0 |
| 16:04.07 | cr2_ | BabelO: Tx:AT+COPS=3,0;+COPS?\r |
| 16:04.22 | cr2_ | Tx:AT+COPS=3,2;+COPS?\r |
| 16:04.42 | cr2_ | Tx:AT+COPS=2\r |
| 16:05.42 | cr2_ | BabelO: it seems that it's not working. |
| 16:05.52 | cr2_ | 3,0 |
| 16:06.05 | cr2_ | Tx:AT+COPS=3,0;+COPS?\r |
| 16:06.14 | cr2_ | Rx:+CME ERROR: 30\r |
| 16:06.26 | cr2_ | Tx:AT+COPS=0\r |
| 16:06.36 | cr2_ | Tx:AT+COPS=3,2;+COPS?\r |
| 16:06.49 | cr2_ | Rx:@HTCCSQ: 4\r\n+COPS: 0,2,"26201",2 |
| 16:06.58 | cr2_ | Rx:\r\n0\r |
| 16:07.31 | cr2_ | The provider db is hardcoded everywhere. |
| 16:07.48 | cr2_ | in the radio rom, in rilgsm, and so on. |
| 16:15.20 | cr2_ | CME ERROR: 30 - "Unknown subscriber" |
| 16:15.39 | cr2_ | hm. maybe at startup. |
| 16:16.21 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: still here ? |
| 16:19.54 | BabelO | cr2_: and there is a special plugin to drive audio from mixer |
| 16:47.06 | goxboxlive | cr2_: yes |
| 16:54.31 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: does AT+COPS=3,0 work for you ? |
| 16:54.36 | cr2_ | i guess it should |
| 16:55.38 | goxboxlive | cr2_: i dont know, i have to check later. The kids are home again :-) |
| 16:55.50 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 16:57.53 | goxboxlive | haha i have vibra working :-) |
| 16:58.09 | pH5 | bzzt |
| 16:58.26 | BabelO | lol |
| 16:58.31 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 16:58.41 | pH5 | hi |
| 17:00.49 | goxboxlive | i am not able to place calls yet |
| 17:02.46 | goxboxlive | hi pH5 |
| 17:03.29 | goxboxlive | well i have to play more with this later. Still not able to hangup and dial out, but i guess that's just some AT stuff. |
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| 19:27.48 | cr2_ | hi tsdogs |
| 19:27.53 | tsdogs | hi cr2_ |
| 19:27.55 | smev | sup |
| 19:28.15 | cr2_ | tsdogs: i'm downloading your patch |
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| 19:28.33 | tsdogs | to roadmap mainline? |
| 19:28.57 | cr2_ | smev: i've decoded (partially) the kaiser stuff. it looks very similar to titan. |
| 19:29.05 | cr2_ | tsdogs: no, the loadimage |
| 19:29.19 | tsdogs | ho ok, not much use though :) |
| 19:30.08 | cr2_ | ok |
| 19:30.11 | smev | cr2_: nice, and as for the front speaker, do you think is possible to redirect audio there ? |
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| 19:30.51 | cr2_ | smev: you put difficult questions :) don#t know yet. |
| 19:31.01 | tsdogs_ | cr2_: sorry my laptop is acting funny |
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| 19:33.50 | tsdogs__ | BabelO: you around? |
| 19:34.03 | smev | cr2_: I don't mind funding innovation :P |
| 19:35.32 | cr2_ | smev: it's not about funding. it's about time and complexity. |
| 19:40.18 | cr2_ | smev: and it's better to have such phone. at least for some time. and the final result _may_ be negative, i.e. it may be impossible ;-) |
| 19:50.22 | tsdogs | cr2_: have you ever tryed building qtopia-core with OE? |
| 19:51.01 | cr2_ | no. |
| 19:51.07 | tsdogs | ok |
| 19:51.15 | cr2_ | my bitbake is unhappy with suse10.1 |
| 19:51.32 | tsdogs | :) had that before with Fedora 7 |
| 19:51.41 | cr2_ | it insists on installing some package which i don't have |
| 19:51.44 | cr2_ | pysqlite2 |
| 19:52.09 | smev | brb |
| 19:52.57 | tsdogs | I get are really strange error: |
| 19:52.57 | tsdogs | | QDir::currentPath: stat(".") failed |
| 19:52.57 | tsdogs | | codecs/qtextcodecplugin.h:67: Error: Undefined interface |
| 19:53.31 | tsdogs | the funny thing is that at line 67 there is nothing :/ |
| 19:54.57 | cr2_ | looks like an nfs problem. |
| 19:55.15 | cr2_ | or the removed directory. |
| 19:55.21 | tsdogs | I'm not on NFS, |
| 19:55.46 | cr2_ | some other part of the script/makefile removed the directory |
| 19:56.20 | tsdogs | I have no idea, but all the files are there (command is moc) |
| 19:56.21 | cr2_ | i can guess from the messages of goxboxlive that it will be very easy to make qtopia run on the universal. |
| 19:56.29 | cr2_ | run strace |
| 19:56.43 | tsdogs | :) like it's easy |
| 19:56.45 | cr2_ | -ff |
| 19:57.04 | cr2_ | even with the phone |
| 19:57.13 | cr2_ | he has only minor problems. |
| 19:57.34 | cr2_ | well, and i need to fix the ak4641 i2c driver :) |
| 19:57.43 | tsdogs | cr2_: http://www.pastebin.ca/708376 |
| 19:57.47 | cr2_ | to support alsa mixer properly |
| 19:58.07 | tsdogs | yep, long time issue I think |
| 19:58.57 | cr2_ | can you run the moc command manually ? |
| 19:59.18 | cr2_ | we control our userspace now :) |
| 19:59.34 | cr2_ | no need for zaurus hacks and such braindead stuff. |
| 19:59.54 | tsdogs | I have done it but same issue, though it seems that the command line is missing the source UI |
| 20:00.38 | tsdogs | I'll check something out. |
| 20:01.43 | tsdogs | ok uic file is missing. |
| 20:03.10 | cr2_ | ok. |
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| 20:33.55 | tsdogs | cr2_: are you going to do a patch for the mainline? |
| 20:34.24 | tsdogs | should we split the map / gui patches? I think so |
| 20:35.12 | cr2_ | i think you should send the qt4 patches |
| 20:35.38 | cr2_ | i'm not quite ready with the map. i need to add the 'cities' db, so we can test the search. |
| 20:36.59 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok. |
| 21:18.42 | cr2_ | tsdogs: i've found out that rdmindex works, and creates some index file. |
| 21:19.04 | cr2_ | i need to check the structure of this file. |
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| 21:38.34 | tsdogs | cr2_: I thought it was only for the US state index ... |
| 21:46.08 | cr2_ | tsdogs_: it was the old index. |
| 21:46.39 | cr2_ | the new one scans the .rdm files for metadata and aggregates it. |
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| 21:54.39 | tsdogs | cr2_: good so we can tell the user which maps are installed and also display them without needing to know the lon/lat |
| 21:58.21 | cr2_ | you can do it right now to some extent |
| 21:58.29 | cr2_ | use qtroadmap --square |
| 21:58.46 | cr2_ | look at the commandline parameters |
| 22:00.29 | tsdogs | ok thx |
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| 22:41.55 | cr2_ | tsdogs: so many names now :) |
| 22:42.19 | tsdogs | cr2_: well done |
| 22:43.28 | cr2_ | it's a hack. |
| 22:43.43 | cr2_ | i think you should try to create an ipk |
| 22:44.16 | cr2_ | we can enhance the program to no end, but it's useful to be able to show something. |
| 22:44.55 | tsdogs | cr2_: I'm trying to build qtopia-core with oe but still failes. that was the point though. |
| 22:45.17 | tsdogs | there must be something in my distro which prevents it to build. |
| 22:45.37 | tsdogs | I should retry building the whole, which means a couple of days building :( |
| 22:46.38 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 22:46.54 | cr2_ | maybe i should upgrade to suse10.2 |
| 22:47.40 | cr2_ | i have another question |
| 22:47.45 | tsdogs | no idea. |
| 22:47.46 | tsdogs | shoot |
| 22:48.00 | cr2_ | there is something missing in the roadmap_editor |
| 22:48.08 | cr2_ | that i'd really like |
| 22:48.31 | cr2_ | when you click on the street, its name and house range is shown |
| 22:48.32 | tsdogs | why don't they merge it? :) |
| 22:48.44 | tsdogs | ok |
| 22:49.17 | cr2_ | i'd like to edit the oneway/speed for this street segment |
| 22:49.32 | cr2_ | without going into great details like roadmap_editor |
| 22:49.43 | cr2_ | maybe just dumping it into syslog |
| 22:50.14 | cr2_ | seg_num is oneway |
| 22:50.29 | tsdogs | cr2_: the data is there right? |
| 22:50.47 | cr2_ | also for turn restrictions, but it will require a selection of 2 segs |
| 22:50.49 | cr2_ | sure |
| 22:51.09 | tsdogs | ok so you need it in the editor version or the mainline? |
| 22:51.11 | cr2_ | the seg always has an id. |
| 22:51.32 | cr2_ | hmm. i don't like the idea of 2 branches. |
| 22:51.42 | cr2_ | and we have our own for the route planning ;) |
| 22:51.46 | tsdogs | me neither. |
| 22:51.48 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:51.55 | cr2_ | what can we do ? |
| 22:52.31 | cr2_ | i think roadmap_editor is too complex |
| 22:52.39 | tsdogs | I see that mainline is more comunicative, maybe we could try port the features from the editor |
| 22:52.52 | cr2_ | i just want some basic editong ops. without messing with the db, xml and so on. |
| 22:53.18 | cr2_ | _editor also implements route planning. |
| 22:53.33 | cr2_ | maybe just separate editing from planning ? |
| 22:53.46 | cr2_ | and editing from the rdm DB changes. |
| 22:54.04 | cr2_ | actually, i was able to compile the wince version of editor. |
| 22:54.10 | tsdogs | ok but street navigation info is not in rdm right? |
| 22:54.19 | cr2_ | with gcc. |
| 22:54.22 | cr2_ | partially. |
| 22:54.42 | cr2_ | well, let's try to set the priorities. |
| 22:55.18 | tsdogs | cr2_: well from my point of view, we have more possibilities to see our changes get to the mainline than the editor... |
| 22:55.26 | cr2_ | i'm leaning to the db part, you to the gui. |
| 22:55.36 | cr2_ | yes, that's certainly so. |
| 22:55.51 | cr2_ | because the _editor is customized for some project |
| 22:56.07 | cr2_ | we don't care about, and don't need to be constrainted by. |
| 22:56.16 | cr2_ | i've asked about oneway. |
| 22:56.18 | cr2_ | once. |
| 22:56.25 | cr2_ | it is a trivial change. |
| 22:56.33 | cr2_ | just 1 more checkbox |
| 22:56.42 | cr2_ | and one more text input box. |
| 22:56.58 | tsdogs | ok. so editor would probably be best right now. |
| 22:57.02 | cr2_ | but the answer was: it will confuse the people of that project. |
| 22:57.10 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:57.23 | cr2_ | it was a year ago , or more. |
| 22:57.42 | cr2_ | the problem is that we have a custom version for the editor too. |
| 22:58.07 | tsdogs | cr2_: what would you use it for? |
| 22:58.09 | cr2_ | and the editor needs its custom maps |
| 22:58.50 | cr2_ | create a map from the OSM db, and use it to modify oneway/speed/turn restrictions. |
| 22:59.32 | tsdogs | ok, so we could change the actual _editor, no need for fancy things at least from the gui part |
| 22:59.41 | cr2_ | so, should we update our _editor to the latest CVS ? |
| 22:59.47 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 23:00.31 | cr2_ | ok. let's compile 2 ipks first |
| 23:00.35 | tsdogs | I'll keep this version for reference, but afair we only modified the gui there... no need to keep it that way |
| 23:00.43 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok |
| 23:00.52 | cr2_ | our CVS main and _editor |
| 23:01.12 | cr2_ | both are useable |
| 23:01.20 | cr2_ | for certain tasks |
| 23:01.35 | tsdogs | I'm porting the roadgps changes to mainline then either oe builds it or I'll do them manually. |
| 23:01.37 | cr2_ | so we can think about the enhancements, and merging. |
| 23:01.47 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 23:01.57 | cr2_ | is roadgps skinnable ? |
| 23:02.05 | cr2_ | like this Polish file ? |
| 23:02.16 | cr2_ | i forgot. |
| 23:02.25 | cr2_ | or are the colours hardcoded ? |
| 23:02.32 | tsdogs | some, kind of |
| 23:03.04 | tsdogs | no there is some configuration (right now only 3, but with mine they are 7) |
| 23:03.17 | cr2_ | add them to the config. |
| 23:03.25 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok |
| 23:03.30 | cr2_ | maybe somebody wants to run a b&w version. |
| 23:03.40 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:03.44 | cr2_ | hardcoding colors is bad in principle. |
| 23:03.57 | cr2_ | because of 2/8/16/24 depth differences. |
| 23:04.04 | tsdogs | they ain't hardcoded, though they have defaults |
| 23:04.17 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 23:05.03 | cr2_ | so, i'll try to repair my oe setup. |
| 23:05.28 | cr2_ | and will also check if i still can compile our _editor :) |
| 23:05.51 | tsdogs | good |
| 23:10.53 | cr2_ | the setups are different |
| 23:11.07 | cr2_ | .roadmap_editor |
| 23:11.10 | cr2_ | probably |
| 23:11.16 | cr2_ | needs to be created. |
| 23:14.29 | cr2_ | no map available |
| 23:14.36 | cr2_ | that's true. |
| 23:15.04 | cr2_ | ok, so it was postgis db. |
| 23:15.26 | cr2_ | i'll put the shapefile on my todo list. |
| 23:15.45 | cr2_ | it's not very difficult to backport. |
| 23:15.45 | tsdogs | ok, lot's of work. |
| 23:16.03 | cr2_ | no, i can reuse the old db. |
| 23:16.12 | cr2_ | for me, but not for the others. |
| 23:16.27 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:16.36 | cr2_ | hmm. you must have the map anyway :) |
| 23:17.13 | cr2_ | and i must have it somewhere too. |
| 23:17.29 | cr2_ | just don't like that it looks into ~/.roadmap/maps |
| 23:18.39 | tsdogs | why not? everybody can have their own maps... |
| 23:19.05 | tsdogs | cr2_: it should also look in /usr/share/roadmap/maps |
| 23:19.58 | cr2_ | .roadmap_editor vs. .roadmap |
| 23:21.31 | tsdogs | ok that's defenetly needed and not a dificult task :) |
| 23:22.08 | cr2_ | ok, found the map in my e-mail to you. |
| 23:22.22 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:22.25 | cr2_ | but it's not so good as the new one :) |
| 23:22.53 | cr2_ | better solution. |
| 23:23.20 | cr2_ | is to use the new index file for the new program. |
| 23:24.18 | cr2_ | invalid line/bysquare1 structure |
| 23:24.23 | cr2_ | hmm. strange |
| 23:25.01 | tsdogs | that's an incompatible map |
| 23:25.53 | cr2_ | yes, but it's strange. |
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| 23:33.00 | cr2_ | invalid |
| 23:33.10 | cr2_ | ok. i give up for today. |
| 23:33.12 | cr2_ | good night :) |
| 23:34.30 | tsdogs | good night |
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