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| 02:00.39 | sander_ | <-! |
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| 08:06.13 | tsdogs | morning all |
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| 08:32.34 | alegra | hello |
| 08:35.00 | alegra | I read how to install Linux on Blue Angel: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux |
| 08:35.10 | alegra | does anyone know where to download those files? I can't see any links |
| 08:36.42 | tsdogs | alegra: it's in the same page |
| 08:37.26 | tsdogs | but babelo should now better for BA |
| 08:37.55 | alegra | under "old instructions" there are some files. but for example no OPIE image |
| 08:37.57 | alegra | what is babelo? |
| 08:38.07 | tsdogs | http://htc.gnulinux.biz/files/ |
| 08:38.58 | tsdogs | babelo is a guy here in the irc, he is here very often.. |
| 08:39.13 | alegra | ah ok thanks |
| 08:39.38 | alegra | I found the OPIE image on http://hands.com/~lkcl/blueangel/ |
| 08:39.56 | alegra | then I'll have to boot Kubuntu and partition my card. |
| 08:39.58 | alegra | cu |
| 08:40.27 | tsdogs | alegra: good luck |
| 08:41.19 | tsdogs | I was going to say that's pretty old, but... |
| 08:56.57 | tsdogs | cr2_: ping when you are there... |
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| 11:23.37 | Babel | hi tsdogs |
| 11:23.47 | Babel | long time |
| 11:23.48 | tsdogs | Hi Babel |
| 11:23.51 | tsdogs | yep |
| 11:24.00 | tsdogs | work :| |
| 11:24.09 | Babel | tsdogs: qtopia 4.3.0 sound very good |
| 11:24.20 | tsdogs | yep, and is GPL now |
| 11:25.01 | Babel | so roadmap can run on it very soon |
| 11:25.51 | tsdogs | I hope so. |
| 11:26.09 | tsdogs | I need to do some stuff for point labeling |
| 11:26.31 | tsdogs | right now I'm looking on how to integrate the gdal for background painting... |
| 11:26.48 | tsdogs | How is your phone app going? |
| 11:27.18 | tsdogs | Also updateing oe env so to create the bb file |
| 11:28.28 | Babel | tsdogs: noneed of phone app now, i m just making plugin for our modem and then sms/dialing will run |
| 11:28.45 | tsdogs | :) cool |
| 11:29.33 | tsdogs | Babel: have you got news on opieII? SVN is still at revision 90 |
| 11:29.59 | tsdogs | But probably was waiting fot qtopia 4.3 to become gpl |
| 11:30.14 | BabelO | tsdogs: no, i thinkljp is waiting for 4.3 yes |
| 11:30.22 | BabelO | do you download it ? |
| 11:30.39 | tsdogs | 4.3 ? nope not yet. but was planning to do it |
| 11:31.23 | BabelO | i ve to fix plugin we done last time |
| 11:33.14 | tsdogs | But 4.3 is not yet available for download :( |
| 11:33.54 | BabelO | tsdogs: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/tech-preview/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.0-preview.tar.gz |
| 11:34.04 | BabelO | or i m looking for snapshot |
| 11:34.22 | tsdogs | ho yeah, just found it though it's a technical preview. |
| 11:34.36 | BabelO | tsdogs: better is snapshot here ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots |
| 11:35.09 | tsdogs | From Trolltech: please do not start doing serious application development yet |
| 11:35.30 | tsdogs | BabelO: thx |
| 11:36.32 | tsdogs | downloading |
| 11:36.41 | tsdogs | Have you already built it? |
| 11:37.02 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes and tryes it, there is also voip built in |
| 11:37.20 | BabelO | tsdogs: i just have few problem with phone plugin |
| 11:37.23 | tsdogs | :) cool, I love trolltech |
| 11:38.21 | BabelO | tsdogs: i send a copy to cr2 for blueangel |
| 11:39.05 | tsdogs | BabelO: cool, cr2 is going back to Universal 'cause of roadmap :) |
| 11:39.19 | BabelO | tsdogs: :) |
| 11:40.14 | BabelO | tsdogs: i hope roadmap can work fast on qtopia |
| 11:40.53 | tsdogs | BabelO: well I think I can try with the Qtopia SDK first, it was working when I tested |
| 11:41.33 | tsdogs | BabelO: is there a qtopia 4.3 SDK yet? |
| 11:42.10 | BabelO | tsdogs: SDK ? no don't think just SDK for 4.2.5 |
| 11:42.36 | tsdogs | btw I saw that trolltech is in accordance with openmoko for integration/collaboration |
| 11:43.15 | tsdogs | ok, that should be enough as I use qt4 and hope not much changed from 4.2 |
| 12:05.14 | tsdogs | BabelO: any advise for building qtopia? |
| 12:50.13 | BabelO | tsdogs: i m making a fresh build right now |
| 12:50.39 | tsdogs | ok, but are there any differences with opieII for building? |
| 12:50.54 | tsdogs | what is your config file? |
| 12:51.06 | BabelO | tsdogs: if you want to build with helix, you have to remove helix directory and take one from 4.2.5 |
| 12:51.23 | tsdogs | no helix for now. |
| 12:51.46 | BabelO | so it build like we do before |
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| 12:52.08 | tsdogs | ok thx |
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| 13:13.59 | Finve | hey, is there someone running openmoko on magician? |
| 13:15.29 | pH5 | ångström, actually. but built with the openmoko-image recipes. |
| 13:16.34 | Finve | i would like to try open moko too |
| 13:17.09 | Finve | should i just use openmoko image and start it with harett? |
| 13:17.45 | Finve | plz, wait a minute, i must restart my xserver :) |
| 13:17.51 | pH5 | 'k |
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| 13:19.39 | Finve | re |
| 13:23.15 | pH5 | Finve: my current images are experimental images with xserver 1.4, which has some problems with suspend/resume. |
| 13:23.47 | Finve | j0, i know, i used it some time bevor |
| 13:24.20 | Finve | you use openmoko to build your image |
| 13:24.55 | Finve | you used also some open moko programms like dialer |
| 13:25.44 | Finve | i would use your image all time if there would be something like bootloader |
| 13:30.45 | pH5 | hm, right. I really need to spend some time get to install linux in flash. |
| 13:32.29 | Finve | i'll try out the image now |
| 13:32.55 | Finve | i heard its quite easy to compile programms for pda with openmoko |
| 13:44.32 | Finve | http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ doesn't work :'-( |
| 13:44.50 | Finve | it worked today morning |
| 13:45.51 | pH5 | hmh, website is down. for more than an hour now, it seems :/ |
| 13:46.33 | Finve | ok |
| 13:46.53 | Finve | i'll try it at evening |
| 13:47.25 | Finve | how can i compile programs for magician? |
| 13:47.31 | Finve | what do i need for it? |
| 13:49.08 | Finve | ok its up ^^ |
| 13:49.52 | Finve | no more oP |
| 13:49.52 | Finve | oO |
| 13:50.20 | pH5 | Finve: you need a cross compiler toolchain (binutils, gcc, glibc) that can build for arm eabi targets on your host pc. |
| 13:50.34 | pH5 | the openembedded build system automatically builds the whole toolchain |
| 13:50.37 | Finve | hmmm, sounds complicated |
| 13:50.41 | Finve | ok |
| 13:50.42 | Finve | ^^ |
| 13:51.28 | pH5 | Finve: if you're interested, have a look at the user manual at openembedded.org |
| 13:51.39 | pH5 | bbl |
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| 14:32.12 | cr2_ | hi all |
| 14:32.17 | Finve | hi |
| 14:32.31 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 14:33.06 | BabelO | cr2_: i m recompiling from scratch witj today snapshot |
| 14:37.16 | Finve | my magician doesn't see a storage card if i formate it on my pc :( |
| 14:37.37 | Finve | i format it with mfdosfs and windows mobile doesnt recognize it |
| 14:38.20 | cr2_ | BabelO: ok. |
| 14:38.36 | cr2_ | Finve: does not see in wince ? how is it partitioned ? |
| 14:39.04 | Finve | p1 is 10M with fat and other space ext2 |
| 14:42.39 | cr2_ | fat16 ? |
| 14:42.56 | Finve | i think.... |
| 14:43.04 | Finve | i will force fat16 |
| 14:43.06 | cr2_ | look. |
| 14:43.06 | Finve | mom |
| 14:48.26 | Finve | yeah, its fat16 |
| 14:48.36 | Finve | and it doenst recognize it |
| 14:51.03 | Finve | maybe it needs fat32? |
| 14:52.04 | pH5 | hi cr2_, BabelO |
| 14:52.19 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 14:52.55 | pH5 | Finve: no, fat16 should be fine. I usually just use mkdosfs without any params and it works. |
| 14:53.35 | Finve | i tried mkdosfs and mkfs.vfat -F 16, both didn't work :( |
| 14:53.47 | pH5 | Finve: is the partition type set correctly? |
| 14:53.53 | Finve | primary |
| 14:53.54 | Finve | both |
| 14:54.53 | cr2_ | pH5: hi. |
| 14:55.03 | Finve | should i make ext2 part logical? |
| 14:55.23 | cr2_ | pH5: can you produce linload-magician.exe instead of zimage+... ? |
| 14:55.34 | pH5 | my 6gb microsdhc arrived :D |
| 14:55.48 | pH5 | cr2_: never looked at it. is it documented in haret cvs? |
| 14:55.49 | cr2_ | i think it confuses the hell out of the people trying to test linux |
| 14:56.24 | pH5 | cr2_: yes, I'll try to do that for the 'test me!'-images |
| 14:56.57 | Finve | hey pH5, what part types should i have? |
| 14:57.14 | cr2_ | pH5: make linload KERNEL=~/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/boot/zImage INITRD=rootfs.cgz SCRIPT=magician-default.txt |
| 14:57.26 | cr2_ | magician-default.txt should be like |
| 14:57.29 | cr2_ | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 rootdelay=5 psplash=1" |
| 14:57.29 | cr2_ | ramboot |
| 14:57.46 | cr2_ | drop INITRD= |
| 14:57.49 | cr2_ | if you don't need it. |
| 14:58.01 | cr2_ | and stop distributing haret & zimage & co. |
| 14:58.14 | cr2_ | i'll try to kill all old links. |
| 14:58.37 | cr2_ | people who need a zimage and haret will get them themselves. |
| 14:59.32 | cr2_ | i think that the SD card should be linux-only |
| 14:59.42 | cr2_ | as in : 1 partition |
| 14:59.52 | cr2_ | no hassle with repartitioning. |
| 15:00.02 | cr2_ | wince does not grok the partitions anyway. |
| 15:03.08 | pH5 | nah, I don't agree with the last part. having the fat partition stops wince2003 from asking me to format it on every insert. |
| 15:03.44 | cr2_ | hmm. does linux mount care about a partition type ? |
| 15:03.58 | pH5 | no |
| 15:04.00 | cr2_ | i guess no. |
| 15:04.23 | cr2_ | and wince inspects the superblock ? |
| 15:04.24 | pH5 | yuck, I need somebody to fix kdrive 1.4 keyboard driver for me. |
| 15:04.34 | pH5 | cr2_: that I don't know. |
| 15:04.47 | cr2_ | need to check. |
| 15:05.14 | cr2_ | well, let's have 2 configs. |
| 15:05.25 | cr2_ | linux and fat16+linux |
| 15:05.34 | pH5 | cr2_: ok. we need a central howto for that. |
| 15:05.40 | cr2_ | so 2 .exe files, named respectively |
| 15:06.08 | cr2_ | agreed. |
| 15:07.19 | pH5 | or maybe some ultra-small initramfs userspace with the kernel modules that can load rootfs from either of mmcblk0p[12] |
| 15:08.26 | cr2_ | modules should be on initramfs anyway. imho |
| 15:08.51 | cr2_ | there is no place for the zimage+modules on a non-flashable image. |
| 15:09.02 | pH5 | ack |
| 15:09.19 | cr2_ | and only magician/hima/ba is more or less ready for flashing. |
| 15:10.45 | pH5 | and we should have a central "how do I hard-reset my ..." page ;) |
| 15:11.12 | cr2_ | yes. just gather the data from xda-dev wiki together. |
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| 15:19.06 | Finve | it doesnt see it :( |
| 15:19.30 | Finve | i must boot in windows and use this little storage to start kernel |
| 15:19.44 | Finve | last time i also had to do so |
| 15:19.57 | Finve | i dont want to boot to linux :( ^^ |
| 15:20.02 | Finve | *to windows |
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| 15:20.21 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 15:20.23 | pH5 | Finve: no other way right now. |
| 15:20.24 | Finve | ji |
| 15:20.25 | Finve | hi |
| 15:20.26 | pH5 | hi Kevin2 |
| 15:20.30 | BabelO | hi Kevin2 |
| 15:21.03 | Finve | ok, it wasnt critic or something :) i really like what you did and hope you will do it in future |
| 15:21.17 | Kevin2 | cr2_: psokolovsky put together a new haret bootloader. Use the tools/make-bootbundle.py |
| 15:21.31 | Finve | bbl |
| 15:21.37 | pH5 | Finve: no offense taken, I want to boot from the bootloader myself ;) |
| 15:21.50 | Kevin2 | It takes a regular haret.exe and concatenates the exe, a kernel, an initrd, and a script into a new exe. |
| 15:22.21 | pH5 | and the initrd can bee an initramfs.cpio.gz? |
| 15:22.54 | Kevin2 | The new mechanism supports really large initrds - the old way was limited because of wince 32MB address space limits. |
| 15:23.05 | Kevin2 | pH5: Yep - initramfs or initrd - works the same way. |
| 15:23.19 | pH5 | great, I'll give it a shot |
| 15:24.00 | pH5 | I'd really like an initramfs that can boot from mmcblk/mtdblock/nfs(/cf on hx) |
| 15:24.48 | Kevin2 | pH5: Yeah. I'm trying to put together an initramfs for testing Hermes (we don't yet have SD support on hermes). |
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| 15:25.29 | Dreadddddd | hi |
| 15:25.34 | cr2_ | Kevin2: hi. sounds very interesting. |
| 15:25.48 | Dreadddddd | cr2_ hi -) |
| 15:26.18 | Dreadddddd | i think about 1 problem.. |
| 15:26.36 | cr2_ | hi Dreadddddd. already running linux on you phone? |
| 15:26.57 | Dreadddddd | how to cut EOM from my fuulflash its help port linux on msm cheapset -) |
| 15:26.59 | Dreadddddd | cr2_ no |
| 15:28.07 | cr2_ | i'm interested to hear from somebody with the kaiser phone. |
| 15:28.44 | Dreadddddd | i forgote |
| 15:28.55 | cr2_ | to dump the RAM, spl, nk.exe etc. |
| 15:29.04 | Dreadddddd | kaiser use qualcom as aplication ? |
| 15:29.40 | cr2_ | yes, all new htc phones use msm7500 |
| 15:30.02 | smev | cr2_: I have a kaiser |
| 15:30.02 | Dreadddddd | msm6250 ? |
| 15:30.13 | smev | I can dump whatever :P |
| 15:30.25 | pH5 | smev: yay! |
| 15:30.38 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: only on the universal. and only as a standalone phone. |
| 15:30.50 | Dreadddddd | smev do u have some problem with bootloaders ? |
| 15:30.57 | cr2_ | smev: you can dump 128MB ? |
| 15:31.02 | Dreadddddd | standalone - ? |
| 15:31.16 | smev | cr2_: if you want to step me through it sure |
| 15:31.22 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: the phone is completely separate from wince. |
| 15:31.38 | Dreadddddd | only wince ? |
| 15:31.46 | Dreadddddd | completely separate - ? -) |
| 15:31.49 | cr2_ | smev: not really 128. and with gzip/bzip2/rar/7z it's even smaller. |
| 15:31.55 | Dreadddddd | sorry for bad english |
| 15:32.16 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: completely. only the serial channel between them. like with the modem. |
| 15:32.27 | smev | cr2_: I have a 1gb card in it now, it shouldn't be a problem |
| 15:32.52 | cr2_ | smev: ok. do you have the haret program ? |
| 15:33.28 | Dreadddddd | hm.. |
| 15:33.37 | Dreadddddd | not understend u |
| 15:33.57 | smev | naw I don't know much about windows mobile yet |
| 15:34.01 | Dreadddddd | who have universal? |
| 15:34.04 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: htc universal has 2 cpus. pxa270 and msm6250 |
| 15:34.14 | Dreadddddd | ou.. |
| 15:34.47 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: the first is used for wince. msm6250 only as a phone. no camera, no anything :) |
| 15:34.48 | Dreadddddd | i need htc that use msm6250 as apllication cheap |
| 15:35.03 | Kevin2 | smev: There is a wince program that can help one analyze the phone - http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.0.exe |
| 15:35.42 | Dreadddddd | cr2_ its can run 2 or 3 or much jave aplication ? |
| 15:36.28 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: you can't run anything on the msm6250 afaik. unless you will reflash it ;-) |
| 15:36.42 | cr2_ | pxa270 runs the wince apps. |
| 15:36.44 | Dreadddddd | OMG |
| 15:37.25 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: but it can be reflashed, and people have done it even with some custom changes. |
| 15:37.40 | Dreadddddd | cr2_ what htc use quallcom chipset MSM6250 as applications processor? |
| 15:37.56 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: look for "universal radio" in the xda-dev wiki. |
| 15:38.03 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: none. |
| 15:38.59 | Dreadddddd | cr2_ link please |
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| 15:43.42 | Dreadddddd | cr2_ reflashing flash can be doing only with JTAG ? |
| 15:44.51 | cr2_ | Dreadddddd: on the universal ? no. it's done over the serial communication link. |
| 15:45.19 | cr2_ | i can't find the link, but they just decrypt the radio rom upgrade. |
| 15:45.37 | cr2_ | it's known how to do it, but i don't remember the details. |
| 15:49.13 | cr2_ | smev: i have something simple for you. http://hands.com/~lkcl |
| 15:49.48 | cr2_ | here you can get the TestWM5.exe programm. just run it off the SD card. |
| 15:50.32 | cr2_ | pH5: sdhc works on magician ? |
| 15:56.03 | pH5 | dunno yet, I need to build an initrd image and then I'll try. |
| 15:57.56 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 15:59.32 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: Hi, didn't we discuss already that preshipped pointercals are harmful? |
| 16:00.46 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: no, let's do it now. why? |
| 16:01.13 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: because when it won't work, user will be locked out |
| 16:02.27 | cr2_ | psokolovsky_: is there any reliable statistics on the variability ? |
| 16:03.05 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: there should be a shortcut to get the calibration tool up, because if you accidentally press on a wrong position you're in the same situation. |
| 16:03.48 | cr2_ | pH5: let's gather pointercals. |
| 16:03.53 | pH5 | (s/be locked out/have to use ssh to delete pointercal/, which I agree is essentially the same for noobs) |
| 16:04.03 | psokolovsky_ | cr2_: no. good enough reason not to lock out users already. but it's there're well known reason while it *will* change. and well-known cases when it doesn't work for some users w/o any changes. |
| 16:04.35 | cr2_ | ok, but it's still an interesting excersize. |
| 16:04.55 | pH5 | cr2_: agreed |
| 16:04.57 | cr2_ | i was running with calib. values by goxboxlive without any problem. |
| 16:05.34 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: So, why don't you start with exactly that - *self-documenting* shortcut on how to call up calibration, instead of making users disservice? |
| 16:08.49 | cr2_ | BabelO: can you post your pointercal ? |
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| 16:10.55 | cr2_ | my ba: 4038 -41 -905906 -41 5344 -1499349 59028 |
| 16:11.41 | cr2_ | a bit sheared. |
| 16:12.17 | BabelO | cr2_: mine 4488 46 -1378858 -32 5880 -1585336 65536^@ |
| 16:12.58 | psokolovsky_ | cr2_: posting any pointercals won't help, unless those are all pointercals, or close too it (like a million). even with that, I make a small change, and those million of pointercals go west. so, don't let that depend on me. Moreover, don't let millions of people depend on your local personal experience. |
| 16:12.59 | cr2_ | hm. the values are 2^16 scaled ? |
| 16:13.53 | cr2_ | psokolovsky_: i agree. even these 2 random samples show some differences. maybe substantial. |
| 16:18.59 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: I assume you had this discussion with koen :) |
| 16:19.06 | pH5 | I'll remove the hx4700 pointercal |
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| 16:19.36 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: yes, you guessed right - I was able to convince even Koen that it's not right time to add that for hh devices |
| 16:19.38 | psokolovsky_ | thanks |
| 16:20.07 | pH5 | gpe has a keylaunch shortcut for touchscreen calibration in gpe-dm, but it's not exactly self-documenting. |
| 16:20.41 | psokolovsky_ | yep, and that's the issue worth fixing, imho. that will be real help for users. |
| 16:21.46 | pH5 | I imagine something like pressing the power button for 6.5 seconds to call up xtscal would be nice. |
| 16:22.26 | cr2_ | 6.5s sounds cool. |
| 16:22.45 | BabelO | pH5: why not doing like wince, with there test just after calibrate ? |
| 16:22.46 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: record button should do that |
| 16:23.13 | pH5 | BabelO: PLEASE NO! ;) |
| 16:23.31 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: but all that doesn't help dumb users for whom preshipped calibration doesn't work and who starts to scream "That linux SUXXX!!!" |
| 16:23.32 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: we have more devices with power buttons than devices with record buttons, though. |
| 16:23.54 | psokolovsky_ | "should" as already should be like that |
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| 16:24.05 | BabelO | pH5: linux boot less often than wince ... lol no reverse engineering needed . lol |
| 16:24.17 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: ok already, I'll remove it again ;) it seems to work quite nice for some hardware (fic-gta), but maybe not for the htc's. |
| 16:25.41 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: how do they know they work ok? how many millions they sold already? either way, they probably have support service with few hundreds callgirls to answer stupid questions, right? for us, it's better to preclude stupid questions at all. |
| 16:27.43 | pH5 | BabelO: actually, the test isn't such a bad idea. just have a fullscreen window that says "calibration done", show the cursor and put an ok button somewhere. |
| 16:33.52 | cr2_ | BabelO: wow. |
| 16:35.11 | cr2_ | BabelO: i've created hima-linload.exe with the current CVS kernel, and used your qtopia4.3.0 image. |
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| 16:35.37 | cr2_ | some device drivers are missing (like the ts), but it works :) |
| 16:36.24 | BabelO | cr2_: yes, wow, why ts not working ? i don't remember it use tsc2200 too ? |
| 16:36.29 | cr2_ | so don't hardcode ba-specific serial settings. check HTC_Serial wii page. |
| 16:36.44 | cr2_ | yes, everything (except BT) should work. |
| 16:36.50 | cr2_ | it#s the same hardware. |
| 16:37.07 | cr2_ | just some drivers are not configured properly. |
| 16:37.12 | cr2_ | in the kernel code. |
| 16:38.28 | Dreadddddd | psokolovsky_ russian speaking ? |
| 16:38.50 | cr2_ | i must admit that hima is better than ba. it is just missing the keyboard and wifi ;) |
| 16:39.20 | BabelO | why better ? faster ? |
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| 16:41.50 | Finve | re |
| 16:42.04 | cr2_ | more robust, the SD card is inserted "as you expect" unlike the ba ;) the IR is on the top. |
| 16:42.19 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's the same hardware :) can't be faster. |
| 16:42.26 | Dreadddddd | Finve russian ? ) |
| 16:42.29 | cr2_ | just the mechanical design |
| 16:42.44 | Finve | something like ^^ russian, but i live in germany |
| 16:43.00 | Finve | why do you ask? |
| 16:43.21 | Dreadddddd | have some question |
| 16:43.25 | Finve | ok |
| 16:45.32 | Dreadddddd | Finve query |
| 16:46.08 | Finve | mom, i must register to send private msgs |
| 16:46.43 | Dreadddddd | do it |
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| 17:03.44 | cr2_ | ltxda: are you here ? |
| 17:07.05 | cr2_ | hmm. DS2746. an i2c battery monitor chip. |
| 17:08.50 | BabelO | cr2_: -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale is it ok for you ? |
| 17:12.44 | cr2_ | BabelO: yes. |
| 17:22.57 | cr2_ | ~ping ltxda2 |
| 17:22.58 | apt | pong ltxda2 |
| 17:26.08 | cr2_ | BabelO: what was IRA ? ("IRA","GSM","UCS2","HEX") |
| 17:26.53 | BabelO | cr2_: don't know but it seem it is default on most phone |
| 17:27.18 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 17:28.12 | cr2_ | at+callreject |
| 17:28.14 | cr2_ | :) |
| 17:28.34 | cr2_ | at+htcctzr |
| 17:28.52 | cr2_ | as if +ctzr is not enough |
| 17:28.59 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.12 | cr2_ | at+ctzu ? |
| 17:29.23 | cr2_ | for utc ? |
| 17:29.48 | BabelO | maybe the other is for regional |
| 17:29.58 | cr2_ | at+cv120 |
| 17:30.13 | cr2_ | cv with 120 char format ? :) |
| 17:30.51 | cr2_ | at+simvolt |
| 17:31.31 | cr2_ | qcuser@qualcomm.com |
| 17:31.35 | cr2_ | call home ? |
| 17:31.53 | cr2_ | http://camcdg08.qualcomm.com |
| 17:33.05 | BabelO | cr2_: what is this modem chipset |
| 17:34.36 | cr2_ | qualcomm |
| 17:35.01 | cr2_ | this one is good: AT&T: COPS STATE - ACTIVE_BAND_ANETS |
| 18:36.09 | cr2_ | ImCoKeMaN: LOL "Battery is user replaceable." |
| 18:36.25 | ImCoKeMaN | thats good to hear =) |
| 18:36.52 | cr2_ | just because one phone does not have it, is it really worth mentioning in wiki ? :))) |
| 18:37.10 | ImCoKeMaN | i didnt' write a wiki |
| 18:37.27 | ImCoKeMaN | i copied the mogul one to htc_titan cuz that's what it should be under |
| 18:37.37 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 18:37.49 | cr2_ | i've added a page for kaiser |
| 18:37.53 | ImCoKeMaN | just tried to organize and link a little better |
| 18:37.56 | cr2_ | it's effectively the same map |
| 18:38.15 | cr2_ | only 128MB RAM |
| 18:38.18 | ImCoKeMaN | yeah there have been a decent amount of similarietes there |
| 18:38.33 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap |
| 18:41.53 | ImCoKeMaN | i'm hoping that battery comment was actually still just copied from an htc document too actually |
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| 18:48.26 | Finve | hi all |
| 18:53.31 | Finve | i installer linux but now i cant run the dialer :( |
| 19:01.30 | cr2_ | Finve: on magician ? |
| 19:02.10 | Finve | j0 |
| 19:02.20 | Finve | and i cant login with ssh |
| 19:02.28 | Finve | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused |
| 19:02.32 | Finve | but i can ping it |
| 19:02.35 | Finve | strange |
| 19:04.38 | Finve | ok, ssh works |
| 19:16.42 | Finve | making update...let see if it will help |
| 19:29.16 | Finve | after update i can start dialer but can call |
| 19:29.34 | Finve | error on setting gsm antenn power |
| 19:29.57 | cr2_ | Finve: only pH5 can help you |
| 19:30.40 | Finve | i know, i hope he will see what i wrote, when he comes |
| 19:32.07 | pH5 | oh, I'm around. just reacting to audiovisual cues :) |
| 19:32.33 | pH5 | Finve: I'm not sure the gsm antenna panel applet is working at all, but the dialer should turn on the phone when you start it. |
| 19:32.40 | pH5 | can you pastebin your /tmp/gsm.log? |
| 19:32.47 | Finve | j0 |
| 19:32.49 | Finve | wait |
| 19:34.29 | Finve | http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15233/ |
| 19:35.59 | pH5 | Finve: that's all? nothing more if you start the dialer? |
| 19:36.26 | pH5 | this log just contains the gsmd init sequence. modem is up and running fine, no connection to the gsm network has been tried. |
| 19:37.12 | Finve | how can i force it to register? |
| 19:37.35 | Finve | mit libgsmd-util? |
| 19:41.06 | Finve | i tried to get the list of operators with libgsmd-util but it doesn't seem to work |
| 19:41.13 | Finve | i get Sun Oct 2 01:59:57 1994 <1> atcmd.c:562:atcmd_submit() submitting command `AT+COPS=?' in the log |
| 19:41.20 | pH5 | Finve: with libgsmd-tool you can try whether it works, but there's still something wrong with the dialer if it doesn't connect automatically. |
| 19:41.52 | pH5 | Finve: at+cops will only work after turning on the radio (at+cfun=1) |
| 19:42.01 | Finve | ok |
| 19:43.27 | Finve | ill try to reboot this thing |
| 19:44.46 | pH5 | Finve: why? if you've got ssh access you can just /etc/init.d/gsmd stop|start and /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop|start |
| 19:45.32 | Finve | i know |
| 19:45.35 | Finve | i tried it |
| 19:45.40 | Finve | and it didn't worked |
| 19:45.54 | Finve | well it worked |
| 19:46.02 | Finve | x and gsmd restarted |
| 19:46.09 | Finve | but it didn't help me :) |
| 19:47.13 | pH5 | Finve: try starting openmoko-dialer from the commandline and see what it says on stdout/err |
| 19:47.48 | Finve | ok |
| 19:51.57 | Finve | now my x doesn't start oO |
| 19:52.00 | Finve | i get ** (neod:1412): DEBUG: can't open ANY input node. no watcher installed. |
| 19:57.02 | pH5 | Finve: do you have a keyboard device in /dev/input/event*? (easiest way to check is hexdump and pressing keys) |
| 19:57.21 | pH5 | we had a kernel bug in 2.6.21-hh16 that caused this behaviour with newer neod's. |
| 19:57.55 | Finve | event0 reacts if i press keys |
| 19:58.52 | Finve | i have also ** (settings-daemon:1504): WARNING **: Could not execute xrdb -merge: Failed to execute child process "xrdb" (No such file or directory) |
| 19:59.11 | Finve | x starts for some moments and then i see just the terminal |
| 20:02.45 | Finve | ph5, and on update i have some conflicts with openmoko-theme-standard2 |
| 20:03.01 | pH5 | 'which xrdb'? |
| 20:03.15 | Finve | nothing happens |
| 20:03.26 | Finve | seems like i was away ;) |
| 20:03.33 | Finve | after upgrade |
| 20:03.42 | pH5 | try to install xrdb again. |
| 20:03.56 | pH5 | strange things. are you upgrading from the angstrom feeds? |
| 20:04.05 | Finve | very strage, i restarted x after upgrade... |
| 20:04.09 | Finve | yes |
| 20:06.10 | Finve | Package openmoko-theme-standard2-qvga wants to install file /usr/share/themes/openmoko-standard-2/matchbox/theme.desktop |
| 20:06.10 | Finve | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.37 | Finve | ph5, maybe now it wants cpp and i also dont have it :( |
| 20:07.07 | Finve | and i cans make full update because of this theme package |
| 20:07.24 | pH5 | Finve: no, I see that error too and it works w/o problems. (what the heck drove the openmoko people to have a cpp dependency in there is another topic. I assume it's just another bug(tm)) |
| 20:08.02 | pH5 | Finve: ipkg remove openmoko-theme-standard2 -force-depends and then ipkg install openmoko-theme-standard2-qvga |
| 20:10.25 | Finve | ok, now i can upgrade but x still doesnt start |
| 20:11.03 | Finve | ph5, should i paste whole log somewhere for you? |
| 20:16.43 | Finve | ph5, in messages i have an error that it cant load n_tihtc.ko |
| 20:18.44 | pH5 | Finve: looks like you did a dist-upgrade to an incompatible kernel. |
| 20:19.05 | pH5 | if you exchange the kernel-module-* packages to some version, you need to upgrade the zImage to the corresponding version as well. |
| 20:19.24 | Finve | where i can get new version? |
| 20:19.54 | pH5 | this really calls for zImage inside the file system :/ |
| 20:20.31 | pH5 | Finve: what is the version of the module packages you just installed from the feeds? |
| 20:20.57 | pH5 | (ipkg info kernel-module-n-tihtc) |
| 20:21.03 | pH5 | and what is your current kernel? |
| 20:21.05 | pH5 | (uname -r) |
| 20:21.16 | Finve | no idea ;) i just tried to restart with init 6 and now i have to do a hard reset |
| 20:21.43 | pH5 | ok, that's unfortunate by normal :) |
| 20:21.49 | Finve | ^^ |
| 20:25.22 | Finve | modules K2-6-21-hh16 |
| 20:25.26 | Finve | kernel hh14 |
| 20:25.34 | Finve | ph5, you are right |
| 20:28.50 | pH5 | Finve: you could try the kernel at http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/zImage-2.6.21-hh16-magician-20070920164854 |
| 20:29.41 | Finve | ok |
| 20:30.04 | Finve | is there a way to accsess the storage from linux? |
| 20:31.00 | pH5 | Finve: we have a raw flash driver ready, but there is no file system driver for the windows storage. |
| 20:31.15 | Finve | ok |
| 20:31.27 | Finve | and windows cant read from ext3 |
| 20:31.36 | Finve | hmm.... |
| 20:31.41 | cr2_ | pH5: do we really need it ? |
| 20:32.06 | Finve | well, only way to upgrade kernel for me is to accsess this storage |
| 20:32.10 | cr2_ | pH5: i think that a minimal linux bootloader is more important ? |
| 20:32.15 | Finve | yes |
| 20:32.18 | Finve | YES ^^ |
| 20:32.29 | pH5 | cr2_: no :) I guess some people'd like it, but I agree with your priorities. |
| 20:32.45 | Finve | yes to bootloader |
| 20:32.51 | cr2_ | or maybe we can use the htc bootloader |
| 20:32.59 | Finve | ok, i must boot in windows |
| 20:33.02 | Finve | cu later |
| 20:33.11 | cr2_ | but then we need some SPL at 0xa0004000 |
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| 20:33.51 | cr2_ | pH5: we can flash 'linux rom', but it's layout will be a bit funny |
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| 20:39.39 | cr2_ | hi tsdogs |
| 20:39.47 | tsdogs | hi cr2_ |
| 20:40.01 | cr2_ | i want to commit a big sync to out roadmap CVS |
| 20:40.19 | cr2_ | i have certainly created some bugs |
| 20:40.33 | BabelO | comit comit ;) |
| 20:40.34 | cr2_ | bug fixed other too :) |
| 20:40.34 | tsdogs | that's ok for me we can still go back |
| 20:40.35 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:40.57 | tsdogs | I'll do a backup locally :) too |
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| 20:41.25 | tsdogs | cr2_: I have looked at the zero width line labeling, and it seems to be a little tricky |
| 20:41.27 | Finve | re |
| 20:41.40 | cr2_ | hmm. does not compile yet. a header is missing. |
| 20:41.43 | tsdogs | cr2_: what's the commit about |
| 20:41.48 | tsdogs | ? |
| 20:41.50 | cr2_ | tsdogs: if it was easy i've already done it :) |
| 20:42.07 | cr2_ | syncing to the mainline CVS |
| 20:42.19 | cr2_ | and some of my 'enhancements' |
| 20:42.19 | tsdogs | that's cool, I wanted to do it myself |
| 20:42.20 | Finve | ph5, kernel is now hh16 but x sill doesnt start |
| 20:42.38 | tsdogs | not your enahancements of course ;) |
| 20:42.45 | cr2_ | hmm. wtf |
| 20:42.58 | cr2_ | i don't want win32 headers |
| 20:43.15 | pH5 | Finve: feed me |
| 20:43.18 | tsdogs | cr2_: didn't they say in mainline that they would have dropped win32? |
| 20:43.23 | pH5 | logs? what is the last thing that fails? |
| 20:43.58 | cr2_ | tsdogs: not really. |
| 20:44.11 | cr2_ | it's just not really maintained. |
| 20:44.20 | cr2_ | imho, it's easier to use qt4. |
| 20:44.24 | tsdogs | cr2_: ho ok. I though Paul wanted to. |
| 20:44.26 | Finve | ** (neod:1286): DEBUG: can't open ANY input node. no watcher installed. |
| 20:44.27 | tsdogs | cr2_: agreed |
| 20:44.28 | cr2_ | and better for all |
| 20:44.39 | Finve | ph5, feed you? something like upgrade from feed? |
| 20:45.20 | tsdogs | cr2_: is goxboxlive creating a bb file for roadmap? if not I'll do it. |
| 20:45.37 | tsdogs | though I have issues about locales with OE !? |
| 20:46.09 | cr2_ | i doubt he will do it. |
| 20:46.24 | cr2_ | split tje program/config and maps |
| 20:46.24 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok |
| 20:46.29 | pH5 | Finve: heh, no. "feed me" some more information. |
| 20:46.33 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok |
| 20:46.36 | Finve | ok ^^ |
| 20:46.40 | cr2_ | tsdogs: we don't need usdir.rdm at all. |
| 20:46.57 | cr2_ | it's an autogenerated file |
| 20:47.29 | Finve | heres x.log for you |
| 20:47.38 | tsdogs | I think it also needs a configuration path review |
| 20:48.04 | pH5 | Finve: I can't accept DCC behind this NAT. Just pastebin it somewhere. |
| 20:48.17 | Finve | kk |
| 20:50.12 | cr2_ | make: *** No rule to make target `unix/libosroadmap.a', needed by `runtime'. Stop |
| 20:51.38 | BabelO | tsdogs, cr2_ you are trying with arm compiler ? ;) |
| 20:51.52 | cr2_ | BabelO: not yet. but soon. |
| 20:52.05 | tsdogs | BabelO: he's faster than me :) |
| 20:52.20 | cr2_ | i'm trying to merge my local tree into CVS |
| 20:52.23 | BabelO | cr2_: ok send me message when it is ok, i want to see that |
| 20:52.30 | cr2_ | but i need to check if it compiles before. |
| 20:52.31 | tsdogs | as long as I have OE build I'll try with a bb file |
| 20:54.25 | cr2_ | tsdogs: have you added the roadmap_canvas_draw_image already ? |
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| 20:55.14 | tsdogs | hmm don't remember |
| 20:55.42 | cr2_ | i have some probs on mouse button release. |
| 20:56.00 | tsdogs | cr2_: nope. is not there. |
| 20:56.34 | tsdogs | cr2_: it's used in editor though |
| 20:56.47 | cr2_ | ok. it compiles and works now. |
| 20:56.57 | tsdogs | ok good |
| 20:57.02 | cr2_ | btw, i was able to load the 750MB worldmap :) |
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| 20:57.17 | cr2_ | it took ~800MB RAM while running. |
| 20:57.24 | tsdogs | :) in rdm format? |
| 20:57.26 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 20:57.39 | tsdogs | all in one file? |
| 20:57.42 | cr2_ | committing. |
| 20:57.49 | cr2_ | yes, as if it was 1 county ;) |
| 20:57.55 | cr2_ | braindead, i know. |
| 20:57.58 | tsdogs | lol |
| 20:59.47 | cr2_ | wow. it was a big commit |
| 20:59.56 | cr2_ | now the missing files |
| 21:00.00 | psokolovsky_ | Ok, so all the infra for mass-production of LiveRamdisks is in haret repo. I'm currently uploading few to Angstrom area. |
| 21:00.03 | BabelO | so cr2_ did you try to travel from paris to new york with google maps ? i like its route planning |
| 21:02.15 | cr2_ | psokolovsky_: autoloading .exe files too ? |
| 21:02.44 | cr2_ | BabelO: no, but you can try. |
| 21:02.59 | cr2_ | i've seen some ferry routes in the Atlantic |
| 21:03.14 | cr2_ | tsdogs: ok, let me know if it works for you. |
| 21:03.41 | cr2_ | tsdogs: the map format is broken now, you need to recompile. |
| 21:03.45 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok only checking that the qt modifications are ok, the I'll update locally and check |
| 21:03.57 | BabelO | cr2_: google say swimming :) |
| 21:03.59 | cr2_ | because it supports the whole world. |
| 21:04.00 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok |
| 21:04.37 | cr2_ | BabelO: then you'll be picked up :) |
| 21:04.40 | psokolovsky_ | cr2_: yes, everything to build such an exe with single command, assuming needed images are built with OE already |
| 21:04.46 | cr2_ | your fingerprints, please ;) |
| 21:05.11 | cr2_ | psokolovsky_: great. i was amazed how easy it was on himalaya. |
| 21:05.26 | cr2_ | need only to fix the kernel drivers. |
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| 21:17.12 | cr2_ | tsdogs: btw, i've generated a google-like scheme. but it's a bit broken |
| 21:17.50 | tsdogs | cr2_: it really was a big update. I also have a few conflicts... :( |
| 21:18.55 | cr2_ | does it compile for you ? |
| 21:19.29 | tsdogs | have to fix stupid conflicts first... |
| 21:19.36 | tsdogs | ok trying |
| 21:20.00 | tsdogs | cr2_: while compiling. |
| 21:20.25 | tsdogs | I have looked at the code for the 0 size lines, and adding labels might create problems... |
| 21:21.34 | tsdogs | I think that the best would be to have a "layer" with all the pois and have a special setting in the "schema" which tells to draw the labels anyway. though we would still need some kind of priority |
| 21:22.03 | cr2_ | there is a code to labeling 'personal landmarks' |
| 21:22.21 | cr2_ | but it uses the internal gps structure 'waypoint' |
| 21:22.24 | tsdogs | would that be the "places" ? |
| 21:22.54 | tsdogs | if it's for that we would also have the "borders" ... |
| 21:23.06 | cr2_ | i thought it was easier to reuse the line labeling code, but it's so complex.. |
| 21:23.09 | cr2_ | borders ? |
| 21:23.11 | tsdogs | for citys, states, regions and so on |
| 21:23.22 | cr2_ | we have borders already. |
| 21:23.26 | tsdogs | I think so. |
| 21:23.42 | tsdogs | I think they always were there.. but I might be wrong |
| 21:23.49 | cr2_ | all polyline features are labeled |
| 21:23.54 | tsdogs | cr2_: it does not compile checking ... |
| 21:24.22 | cr2_ | make DESKTOP=QT4 QTDIR=... SHAPEFILES=NO |
| 21:24.36 | cr2_ | remove postgis #define if it's a problem. |
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| 21:24.53 | cr2_ | for SHAPEFILES you need shapelib |
| 21:25.08 | cr2_ | maybe we should just include it in the tree |
| 21:25.17 | tsdogs | cr2_: no it was a QTDIR problem |
| 21:25.27 | cr2_ | ok |
| 21:25.38 | tsdogs | undefined reference to `roadmap_time_get_millis' |
| 21:25.40 | cr2_ | BabelO: do you know how to use word ? :) |
| 21:25.52 | cr2_ | tsdogs: ok, i had it already ;) |
| 21:25.57 | cr2_ | go to unix/ |
| 21:26.02 | cr2_ | and type 'make' |
| 21:26.13 | cr2_ | it's some breakage of the top Makefile |
| 21:26.17 | tsdogs | ok so it's a dependency |
| 21:26.25 | tsdogs | ok builded |
| 21:27.10 | tsdogs | the cannot activate (invalid context type) message came on, so far so good |
| 21:27.17 | tsdogs | now I need a new map |
| 21:27.31 | cr2_ | hmm. |
| 21:27.44 | cr2_ | i can send you the map. |
| 21:28.33 | cr2_ | run 'buildus -m ~/.roadmap/maps' |
| 21:28.44 | cr2_ | after you'll put it to ~/.roadmap/maps |
| 21:30.05 | cr2_ | hmm. it may be too big. |
| 21:31.16 | cr2_ | tsdogs: i've put it in the same directory. |
| 21:31.28 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:31.31 | tsdogs | thx |
| 21:31.52 | cr2_ | yeah. your sendmail was unhappy. |
| 21:32.17 | cr2_ | tsdogs: do you know how to work with word aka OOo ? |
| 21:32.42 | tsdogs | a bit. shoot :) |
| 21:32.59 | cr2_ | i have a .doc file which was a .xls table |
| 21:33.03 | cr2_ | with 16 columns |
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| 21:33.13 | cr2_ | i want to extract the second column |
| 21:33.23 | cr2_ | or just create a CSV file from it. |
| 21:33.31 | cr2_ | but it's 148 pages long |
| 21:33.40 | cr2_ | so i can't just drag and cut |
| 21:33.53 | cr2_ | well, if there is nothing better ;) |
| 21:33.55 | Finve | ph5, are you here? |
| 21:33.58 | tsdogs | hmm, why not |
| 21:34.05 | cr2_ | how ? |
| 21:34.20 | tsdogs | select the whole column and copy |
| 21:34.24 | BabelO | cr2_: xls size limit is 65536 |
| 21:34.37 | tsdogs | the open a text editor and paste |
| 21:34.43 | tsdogs | only text should paste |
| 21:35.13 | tsdogs | cr2_: can't you go back to excel? |
| 21:35.16 | pH5 | Finve: aye |
| 21:35.37 | Finve | ph5, well, now i cant hexdump /dev/input/event0 |
| 21:35.42 | Finve | nothing happens |
| 21:35.57 | tsdogs | cr2_: also you could delete all the not needed columns and save it as a text file. |
| 21:36.30 | cr2_ | tsdogs: stopped after page 29. |
| 21:36.37 | cr2_ | how do i delete the columns = |
| 21:37.17 | tsdogs | I think you should simply go to the top and select the column, then right click and delete column |
| 21:37.24 | pH5 | Finve: I'll build, test and upload a working kernel tomorrow. Not sure why this one doesn't work. |
| 21:37.29 | tsdogs | are you using word or OOo ? |
| 21:37.31 | Finve | ok |
| 21:37.34 | Finve | thx |
| 21:37.36 | cr2_ | OOo of course |
| 21:37.42 | Finve | good night then |
| 21:37.51 | pH5 | 'night |
| 21:39.17 | cr2_ | hmm. delete column deleted something else. evil software ;-) |
| 21:39.33 | tsdogs | cr2_: hmm strange |
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| 21:39.57 | gggggig | hi |
| 21:40.10 | gggggig | any haret users here? |
| 21:40.17 | tsdogs | cr2_: works for me but I have no such 148 pages file |
| 21:40.36 | tsdogs | gggggig: actually Kevin2 is the developer :) |
| 21:40.37 | cr2_ | tsdogs: it seems that it works :) |
| 21:40.43 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok |
| 21:41.48 | gggggig | I followed this guide http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianXanadux |
| 21:42.23 | gggggig | default.txt is present |
| 21:42.23 | gggggig | I see boot MTYPE=875, but nothing more happens |
| 21:42.53 | gggggig | I loaded openmoko distribution and not GPE, do I have to change something? |
| 21:44.17 | cr2_ | gggggig: from here ? http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician |
| 21:44.45 | gggggig | yes |
| 21:45.03 | cr2_ | pH5 already left. |
| 21:45.19 | cr2_ | how old is your haret ? |
| 21:45.23 | gggggig | Angstrom-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-test-20070821-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 21:45.30 | cr2_ | haret :) |
| 21:45.45 | gggggig | gnuharet-200610130020.exe |
| 21:45.51 | gggggig | it's there |
| 21:46.01 | cr2_ | use http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.0.exe |
| 21:46.10 | cr2_ | don't set MTYPE |
| 21:46.49 | gggggig | How should I change the default.txt? |
| 21:46.58 | cr2_ | what do you have there ? |
| 21:47.02 | cr2_ | set CMDLINE |
| 21:47.07 | cr2_ | and bootlinux |
| 21:47.10 | cr2_ | or |
| 21:47.11 | cr2_ | boot2 |
| 21:47.15 | cr2_ | it's the same afair |
| 21:47.29 | cr2_ | everything else should be autodetected. |
| 21:47.31 | gggggig | http://linuxtogo.org/%7Eph5/magician/default.txt |
| 21:47.51 | cr2_ | yes, it's ok. |
| 21:48.00 | cr2_ | maybe too verbose, but ok. |
| 21:48.12 | cr2_ | mem=64M is autodetected. |
| 21:48.26 | gggggig | so I try the new haret with that default.txt |
| 21:48.32 | cr2_ | tsdogs: got the map ? |
| 21:48.44 | cr2_ | gggggig: yes. |
| 21:49.50 | tsdogs | cr2_: still looking for the link. I had to redo the PC, and also it hangs some time :) |
| 21:49.52 | tsdogs | :( |
| 21:50.24 | gggggig | cr2_: ok it boots |
| 21:50.37 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok downloading |
| 21:50.43 | cr2_ | sent the link |
| 21:51.38 | gggggig | maybe are stupid question but: |
| 21:51.39 | gggggig | is possible to have dualboot linux & wince? |
| 21:51.39 | gggggig | is possible to run tom tom on Linux? Tom Tom embedded runs on a custom linux |
| 21:52.10 | cr2_ | gggggig: you are doing dualboot already. |
| 21:52.28 | tsdogs | cr2_: I was creating the scripts to create the rasters to be put in roadmap |
| 21:52.34 | cr2_ | you can't run wince tomtom on linux |
| 21:52.51 | gggggig | I read that my wince settings will be cleaned. |
| 21:53.03 | cr2_ | gggggig: yes. your RAM will be wiped out |
| 21:53.30 | gggggig | I didn't say tomtom wince, i said tomtom embedded for tomtom linux |
| 21:53.34 | gggggig | like tom tom go |
| 21:53.56 | cr2_ | tsdogs: _load_image() first :) |
| 21:54.13 | gggggig | openmoko is coool |
| 21:54.18 | gggggig | cr2_: thanks |
| 21:54.39 | cr2_ | gggggig: if you can pick it out, if there is no copy protection & such, and you know how it interacts with the devices, then maybe. |
| 21:55.10 | tsdogs | cr2_: I have some code to load image, so as I needed a new geotif I was building the script (at least a simple version) |
| 21:55.10 | cr2_ | gggggig: i have linux version of copilot on a780. |
| 21:55.30 | cr2_ | gggggig: but there will be a lot of troubles to make it run on generic arm-linux. |
| 21:55.37 | tsdogs | cr2_: do I need to rebuild the index.rdm too? |
| 21:55.47 | cr2_ | tsdogs: yes. |
| 21:55.53 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok |
| 21:56.08 | cr2_ | tsdogs: run 'buildus -m ~./roadmap/maps' |
| 21:56.20 | cr2_ | we may include it in roadmap. eventually |
| 21:56.40 | cr2_ | gggggig: we are working on a tomtom-like program for linux. as you can see :) |
| 21:57.00 | tsdogs | cr2_: usc07047.rdm: unknown county FIPS code 07047 |
| 21:57.11 | cr2_ | hmm. |
| 21:57.31 | cr2_ | tsdogs: i'll send you app_a02.txt and usstates.txt |
| 21:57.47 | tsdogs | ain't them in the cvs? |
| 21:57.59 | cr2_ | this is all braindead and should be changed :) |
| 21:58.14 | cr2_ | tsdogs: i'll send you the index. |
| 21:58.15 | gggggig | cr2_: is this the alternative to tom tom? http://www.totalueberwachung.de/blog/files/navit-neo1973.jpg |
| 21:58.20 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok |
| 21:58.27 | cr2_ | gggggig: no. |
| 21:58.41 | cr2_ | gggggig: navit is too big |
| 21:59.08 | cr2_ | but it's a good program too. |
| 22:00.13 | gggggig | it uses vectorial openstreetmaps maps |
| 22:00.25 | cr2_ | tsdogs: sent. |
| 22:00.52 | cr2_ | gggggig: not only osm, also some commercial maps with turn restrictions and such. |
| 22:01.21 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok got it |
| 22:01.39 | gggggig | cr2_: like tom tom maps? |
| 22:02.11 | tsdogs | cr2_: lon and lat? |
| 22:02.12 | cr2_ | gggggig: http://navit.sourceforge.net/?page=readme |
| 22:02.19 | cr2_ | tsdogs: 30,60 |
| 22:03.04 | tsdogs | cr2_: can you send me also your "All" schema |
| 22:03.24 | cr2_ | tsdogs: you don't have 'Polish' ? |
| 22:03.51 | tsdogs | cr2_: nope |
| 22:04.01 | cr2_ | sent |
| 22:04.15 | cr2_ | put this file to /usr/local/share/roadmap/default |
| 22:04.19 | cr2_ | and remove All |
| 22:04.27 | cr2_ | this is also braindead. |
| 22:04.42 | cr2_ | otherwise it may segfault |
| 22:04.45 | tsdogs | ok thx |
| 22:05.08 | gggggig | cr2_: but are raster the other maps? |
| 22:05.28 | cr2_ | gggggig: these are vector maps. |
| 22:05.55 | cr2_ | at least the data i#ve seen for Germany is excellent |
| 22:06.24 | cr2_ | tsdogs: i think i can "regenerate" your map too. |
| 22:06.29 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok much better thx |
| 22:06.33 | tsdogs | this is huge :) |
| 22:06.37 | cr2_ | :) |
| 22:06.52 | cr2_ | but there are still some polygon rendering bugs |
| 22:07.01 | gggggig | italy's map on OSM is horrible |
| 22:07.12 | cr2_ | some islands are in inverse. |
| 22:07.16 | tsdogs | cr2_: did you remove my label handling of the strings [0x ? |
| 22:07.33 | cr2_ | gggggig: but there are many tracks |
| 22:07.41 | cr2_ | tsdogs: no. |
| 22:07.54 | cr2_ | tsdogs: i've removed the ~[0x ? |
| 22:07.59 | tsdogs | hmm strangs, also some rivers come out very strange |
| 22:08.07 | tsdogs | well I still see them |
| 22:08.21 | cr2_ | why are the rivers strange ? |
| 22:08.24 | tsdogs | I mean the labels |
| 22:08.40 | tsdogs | they are named something like DDDDDD some string problems I think |
| 22:08.44 | cr2_ | i#ve broken something in the font handling |
| 22:08.54 | gggggig | cr2_: does work maemo mapper on GPE or Maemo? |
| 22:09.10 | cr2_ | gggggig: i think maemo |
| 22:09.10 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok I'll take a look on how to fix this. |
| 22:09.29 | cr2_ | tsdogs: maybe i was too overzealous with fromUtf8() |
| 22:09.37 | cr2_ | and did it twice :) |
| 22:09.43 | tsdogs | cr2_: that could be :) |
| 22:09.56 | cr2_ | because DDDD comes from utf8 |
| 22:10.23 | cr2_ | btw, do you see the FontList ? |
| 22:10.28 | cr2_ | in the stdout |
| 22:10.43 | cr2_ | i 've enabled the qmessagebox() |
| 22:10.43 | gggggig | cr2_: argh google maps are very usefull outroad |
| 22:10.44 | tsdogs | cr2_: yes |
| 22:10.57 | tsdogs | I saw it in the source |
| 22:10.59 | cr2_ | otherwise even 'About' failed. |
| 22:11.23 | cr2_ | gggggig: there is qpegps and dpsdrive |
| 22:11.23 | tsdogs | I had removed it 'cause in previous qt version it segfaulted |
| 22:11.46 | cr2_ | tsdogs: it works now, afaik. |
| 22:11.55 | tsdogs | cr2_: yes it does |
| 22:12.12 | tsdogs | cr2_: there aren't many street names are there? |
| 22:12.18 | cr2_ | tsdogs: have you seen the complaints by Paul ? |
| 22:12.26 | cr2_ | tsdogs: in the city ? |
| 22:12.34 | tsdogs | nope, checking |
| 22:12.56 | cr2_ | go to 29.2,59.5 |
| 22:13.11 | cr2_ | hmm. maybe a bit north |
| 22:13.49 | tsdogs | ok what's there? |
| 22:14.03 | cr2_ | there should be a lot of streets |
| 22:14.20 | cr2_ | do you have problems with mouse button release ? |
| 22:14.35 | cr2_ | i have them on x86 and amd64 |
| 22:14.45 | gggggig | it's a pity that openmoko dialer crashes :( |
| 22:14.59 | tsdogs | bbiaf |
| 22:17.31 | tsdogs | cr2_: I don't see the problem with streets, and seems to me that mouse release is ok here |
| 22:18.13 | gggggig | 'night |
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| 22:18.27 | tsdogs | gggggig: night |
| 22:19.55 | cr2_ | tsdogs: hmm. strange. |
| 22:20.15 | tsdogs | sorry baby crying again. bbiag |
| 22:22.46 | tsdogs | ok back |
| 22:23.32 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok maybe I found what you mean, it's souther, all that blue lines? |
| 22:23.57 | cr2_ | yes, it's some polygon bug |
| 22:24.06 | cr2_ | but it's not critical |
| 22:24.17 | cr2_ | we have more pressing problems :) |
| 22:24.51 | tsdogs | yes zooming out slows down really a lot the movements... |
| 22:25.07 | tsdogs | cr2_: what is the declutter u using? |
| 22:25.55 | tsdogs | ha, flite is not able to handle this strange language. |
| 22:25.57 | cr2_ | no at lal |
| 22:26.02 | cr2_ | lol |
| 22:26.15 | cr2_ | DDDD ? |
| 22:26.39 | tsdogs | nope, when you click on the street the name is ok, but flite only says "selected" |
| 22:27.00 | cr2_ | do you get the font list in stdout ? |
| 22:27.11 | cr2_ | i get really bizarre fonts shown. |
| 22:27.28 | tsdogs | btw: font family: <Adobe Helvetica> match not found |
| 22:27.53 | cr2_ | it#s strange too |
| 22:28.00 | tsdogs | yep. |
| 22:28.07 | cr2_ | because this family _is_ in the list |
| 22:28.18 | cr2_ | that's why i put it there. |
| 22:28.57 | cr2_ | btw, if you'll compare this map with google (vector), you'll see what piece of shit is google ;) |
| 22:29.06 | cr2_ | and this map is not perfect too. |
| 22:29.39 | tsdogs | cr2_: Actually I do not have it |
| 22:29.39 | cr2_ | the OSM is sometimes much better in this region : |
| 22:30.04 | cr2_ | the list is in the initColor |
| 22:30.37 | cr2_ | s== roadmap_start.c, line 1188: RoadMap starting, time 0:29 |
| 22:30.41 | cr2_ | !Y2KBUG |
| 22:30.45 | cr2_ | 1980 Portable |
| 22:30.49 | cr2_ | 256 Bytes |
| 22:30.53 | cr2_ | 6809chargen |
| 22:30.54 | cr2_ | aakar |
| 22:30.54 | cr2_ | Abberancy |
| 22:30.54 | cr2_ | Adobe Courier |
| 22:30.54 | cr2_ | and so on |
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| 22:31.43 | tsdogs | I mean I do not have Adobe Helvetica, but the list is there |
| 22:32.40 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 22:32.48 | cr2_ | i have still have DDDD |
| 22:33.04 | cr2_ | how do i change this list ? |
| 22:33.17 | tsdogs | me too, but there seems not to be many fromUtf8 in code, and also they do not seem to overlap |
| 22:33.19 | cr2_ | is it some freetype database ? |
| 22:33.29 | tsdogs | maybe it's a font problem |
| 22:33.39 | cr2_ | yes, probably. |
| 22:33.49 | tsdogs | Let me try with Arial |
| 22:33.52 | cr2_ | but how can i force it to pick the right font ? |
| 22:34.00 | cr2_ | arial should work. |
| 22:34.21 | cr2_ | Zekton |
| 22:34.25 | cr2_ | Zekton Dots |
| 22:34.29 | cr2_ | Zero Threes |
| 22:34.29 | cr2_ | Zero Twos |
| 22:34.29 | cr2_ | ZeroHour |
| 22:34.30 | cr2_ | Zodillin |
| 22:34.30 | cr2_ | Zorque |
| 22:34.30 | cr2_ | Zrnic |
| 22:34.37 | cr2_ | i'd like to wipe this stuff out ;) |
| 22:34.55 | cr2_ | wtf qt4 picks these fonts ?? |
| 22:35.06 | tsdogs | cr2_: no idea. |
| 22:35.37 | cr2_ | ls /etc/fonts/ |
| 22:37.09 | cr2_ | but these lists are generated. |
| 22:37.36 | tsdogs | cr2_: hmm still DDDDD |
| 22:39.47 | cr2_ | i'll try printf() |
| 22:41.06 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok it's not utf8, I have tryed removing all of them, but no solution |
| 22:41.29 | cr2_ | the map is ok. |
| 22:42.33 | cr2_ | it's not utf8. |
| 22:42.40 | cr2_ | it's the pure font problem. |
| 22:42.57 | cr2_ | i put printf before drawText() |
| 22:43.38 | tsdogs | cr2_: It can't be a font problem, as street names when selected are ok in the message box |
| 22:44.23 | cr2_ | btw, the yellow message is ok, it picks the font from qt_canvas.cc |
| 22:44.31 | cr2_ | the "hardcoded" font. |
| 22:44.55 | cr2_ | so it's ->setFamily() that fails |
| 22:45.08 | cr2_ | the plain constructor is ok. |
| 22:45.14 | tsdogs | ok so it's not a font as I have the Arial there now, and also Arial in Polish |
| 22:45.39 | tsdogs | ok my code is missing the [0x05] code |
| 22:46.06 | cr2_ | i guess the problem is somewhere here: |
| 22:46.08 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.08 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.09 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.09 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.34 | cr2_ | i think i've added your [0x05] changes |
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| 22:47.37 | tsdogs | cr2_: I have tryed commenting out the setFamily and nothing changed |
| 22:48.10 | cr2_ | tsdogs: maybe we should add more debugging after setFamily ? |
| 22:48.24 | cr2_ | i'd like to know what font is this DDDD |
| 22:48.43 | cr2_ | and why. |
| 22:48.50 | tsdogs | I'm trying to debug the problem |
| 22:48.58 | cr2_ | and how we can recover from it. |
| 22:49.45 | tsdogs | ok we have some QT_NO_ROTATE define ? |
| 22:50.41 | cr2_ | no. |
| 22:50.46 | cr2_ | the strings are rotated. |
| 22:50.59 | cr2_ | linefont ? |
| 22:51.16 | tsdogs | what the heck, I have putted a qWarning when drawing labels but nothing displays... |
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| 22:53.53 | cr2_ | it can't be linefont. |
| 22:54.06 | cr2_ | the right angled drawText is called. |
| 22:56.09 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.04 | cr2_ | rawName |
| 22:58.02 | cr2_ | hehe. and lastResortFamily |
| 23:00.35 | tsdogs | cr2_: the drawString is called, but drawStringAngle does not seem to |
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| 23:07.50 | cr2_ | maybe other settings are too tight ? |
| 23:08.15 | cr2_ | i'm confused because it was not really working (as expected) before. |
| 23:08.42 | cr2_ | it was picking some strange narrow font. |
| 23:09.55 | tsdogs | cr2_: I'm not really sure it's the font the problem... |
| 23:10.15 | tsdogs | as removing the code does not solve the thing. |
| 23:12.28 | cr2_ | ok, how can i find out which font is used ? |
| 23:12.39 | cr2_ | then i'll simply remove it :) |
| 23:12.42 | tsdogs | probably with font.Name |
| 23:13.50 | tsdogs | ok numbers are rendered ok. |
| 23:15.32 | cr2_ | if (currentPen != 0) |
| 23:15.56 | cr2_ | otherwise you don't set it at all ? |
| 23:16.11 | cr2_ | but still call drawString ? |
| 23:17.01 | cr2_ | drawText, sorry |
| 23:17.38 | cr2_ | yes, it seems to be the case. |
| 23:18.21 | cr2_ | in void RMapCanvas::drawStringAngle |
| 23:19.21 | cr2_ | at least i don't understand the logic here. |
| 23:19.38 | tsdogs | cr2_: it should be the default pen drawing in that case which has the default font |
| 23:20.02 | tsdogs | but it's not the case |
| 23:20.26 | cr2_ | hmm. it is not called at all. |
| 23:23.49 | cr2_ | roadmap_canvas_draw_string_angle is only in the _screen |
| 23:23.55 | cr2_ | huh. |
| 23:23.57 | cr2_ | RoadMapLineFontSelect |
| 23:24.05 | cr2_ | it's a config option now ??? |
| 23:24.15 | tsdogs | it seems so |
| 23:24.40 | tsdogs | but only if Use LineFont is enabled i think |
| 23:26.03 | tsdogs | that's what i was saying the functions are not called |
| 23:26.15 | tsdogs | there is a roadmap_linefont_text ... |
| 23:26.22 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 23:26.31 | cr2_ | i've commented this stuff out. |
| 23:26.38 | cr2_ | and it works. |
| 23:27.33 | cr2_ | wow. |
| 23:27.42 | cr2_ | what is the clean solution ? |
| 23:27.53 | cr2_ | the labels are even better than before. |
| 23:28.09 | tsdogs | cr2_: simply disable Line font |
| 23:28.09 | cr2_ | hershey fonts suck |
| 23:28.21 | tsdogs | this way it gets to default handling |
| 23:28.35 | tsdogs | got to preferences |
| 23:28.59 | tsdogs | Map, and put Use Line font off |
| 23:29.32 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 23:29.54 | cr2_ | qt4 does a funny job on rotated strings. |
| 23:30.30 | tsdogs | with Arial it seems ok to me |
| 23:31.42 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 23:31.59 | cr2_ | i still have the map jump on mouse button release. |
| 23:33.07 | tsdogs | I don't |
| 23:33.15 | tsdogs | what version of qt4 u using? |
| 23:33.20 | cr2_ | 4.3.1 |
| 23:33.32 | cr2_ | hmm. it is still not the font i want |
| 23:33.35 | tsdogs | ok 4.3.1 here too |
| 23:33.42 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:33.43 | cr2_ | it's some substitution. |
| 23:34.36 | tsdogs | cr2_: if I remember well there is some RealName in the font |
| 23:34.53 | cr2_ | and there are problems with islands, so i need to think about it. |
| 23:35.04 | cr2_ | RealName ? |
| 23:35.24 | tsdogs | wait a sec |
| 23:35.33 | cr2_ | btw, I don't have Arial in the list. |
| 23:37.11 | cr2_ | hehe. it's probably this !Y2KBUG font |
| 23:37.37 | tsdogs | cr2_: maybe you should use something like Adobe [Helvetica] |
| 23:37.50 | cr2_ | hm. no. arial is there. |
| 23:37.56 | cr2_ | arial bold is wrong. |
| 23:38.13 | cr2_ | arial black, and arial narrow |
| 23:38.59 | cr2_ | hehe. |
| 23:39.01 | cr2_ | font family: <Arial Black> match not found |
| 23:39.11 | cr2_ | but it uses a different font now :) |
| 23:39.22 | cr2_ | looks like fat helvetica. |
| 23:40.17 | cr2_ | the buffering is a bit thin, but it looks good. |
| 23:41.09 | tsdogs | cr2_: have you tryed Adobe [Helvetica] ? |
| 23:41.27 | cr2_ | hmm. the road rendering order changes if you move the map |
| 23:41.42 | cr2_ | you can pick any font from the reported font list. |
| 23:42.05 | tsdogs | I noticed that too, rivers go over the streets too |
| 23:42.33 | cr2_ | Symbol [monotype] |
| 23:43.29 | cr2_ | Lucida Bright |
| 23:43.32 | cr2_ | is better |
| 23:44.54 | tsdogs | ok time for load_image and gdal plugin |
| 23:45.44 | cr2_ | load_image should be easy. look at agg |
| 23:46.02 | tsdogs | I already have the loadimage in editor |
| 23:46.35 | cr2_ | i prefer Arial black. most readable on my notebook. |
| 23:47.31 | cr2_ | a schema editor may be better :) |
| 23:48.59 | tsdogs | I thought about that too.. :) |
| 23:50.17 | cr2_ | not really needed now. |
| 23:50.46 | cr2_ | the color picker widget is not included in "standard" qtopia, btw. |
| 23:50.57 | tsdogs | ok |
| 23:51.11 | cr2_ | be we can change it |
| 23:51.45 | cr2_ | ok, i need to think about fixing islands. |
| 23:53.03 | cr2_ | you can also look why ~[0x05] is not parsed. |
| 23:53.04 | tsdogs | ok, I'm copying the image stuff over |
| 23:53.09 | cr2_ | good. |
| 23:53.14 | tsdogs | and also 0x03 |
| 23:53.27 | tsdogs | I have no idea about what they mean though |
| 23:57.19 | cr2_ | highway signs ? |
| 23:57.23 | cr2_ | boxes. |
| 23:57.42 | cr2_ | this string should be put in a funny looking box. |
| 23:58.14 | tsdogs | ok, but the only one I found a description for was the ones coded... |
| 23:59.37 | cr2_ | it's not urgent. |
| 23:59.56 | cr2_ | just some garmin-originated thing. |
