| 00:12.37 | ltxda | cr2_, u here? |
| 00:12.42 | ltxda | or ImCoKeMaN? |
| 00:12.46 | ltxda | someone? |
| 00:12.47 | ltxda | lol |
| 00:12.51 | ltxda | brb |
| 00:13.53 | ltxda | alo |
| 00:13.54 | ltxda | ? |
| 00:13.59 | ltxda | i guess it's bed time |
| 00:14.36 | cmonex | heh |
| 00:16.10 | ltxda | :-) |
| 00:16.11 | ltxda | brb |
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| 01:22.05 | ImCoKeMaN | yeah looks like they all left |
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| 07:07.21 | wmorde | hello. how about linux for htc hermes ? |
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| 08:07.59 | BabelO_ | hi |
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| 10:19.55 | BabelO_ | hi cr2_ |
| 10:20.11 | BabelO_ | did you see my link ? |
| 10:53.25 | cr2_ | BabelO_: yes, i'm downloading it now. |
| 10:55.24 | cr2_ | BabelO_: do you have cegcc ? |
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| 11:35.23 | cr2_ | BabelO_: bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. |
| 11:41.53 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes i have cegcc on my computer |
| 11:42.25 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : integrity error ... humm. i ll look |
| 11:43.28 | cr2_ | BabelO_: imho you should then pack haret/default.txt/zImage into bootlinux-ba-20070921.exe |
| 11:44.09 | cr2_ | so we will then have linuxboot.exe + image.tar.bz2 |
| 11:44.31 | BabelO_ | ah reaaly , i can starrt with this ? |
| 11:47.21 | cr2_ | do you have haret CVS ? |
| 11:48.52 | cr2_ | # This is a sample file for use with the "linload" feature of haret. |
| 11:48.56 | cr2_ | # |
| 11:48.57 | cr2_ | # To use linload, run: |
| 11:48.57 | cr2_ | # make linload KERNEL=my-zImage INITRD=my-rootfs.cgz SCRIPT=my-script.txt |
| 11:48.57 | cr2_ | # |
| 11:48.58 | cr2_ | # The special command "ramboot" will cause the linload.exe version of |
| 11:48.58 | cr2_ | # haret to load the kernel/initrd linked into it. |
| 11:54.58 | ImCoKeMaN | can you think of any reason there would be a difference between using haret and running commands via telnet vs using a default.txt? |
| 11:55.50 | ImCoKeMaN | i've been having different results and i'm thinking there must be something different about the default.txt, but i'm not seeing it so i thoguht i'd ask |
| 11:57.47 | cr2_ | ImCoKeMaN: i prefer telnet. Kevin has written a lot of very interesting features in haret, probably we need to start the "haret documentation project" :) |
| 11:58.04 | cr2_ | otherwise nobody will use these features... |
| 12:00.30 | ImCoKeMaN | i was impressed how within like and hour and a half of hearing i ran haret on the titan he made it recognize (generically) the cpu type then fixed the ps command |
| 12:02.25 | cr2_ | :) |
| 12:02.35 | cr2_ | does 'lsmod' work for you ? |
| 12:02.38 | ImCoKeMaN | it was weird because using default.txt i couldn't communicate with the bootloader that i loaded, but telnet the same commande and it does |
| 12:02.46 | ImCoKeMaN | i think so yeah |
| 12:03.29 | cr2_ | can you pastebin the output ? are there any unusual processes ? |
| 12:04.16 | ImCoKeMaN | i have to head out in a bit but if i'm back over lunch i'll try it then |
| 12:04.51 | ImCoKeMaN | get to take a nice test this morning heh |
| 12:06.56 | ImCoKeMaN | see ya |
| 12:07.06 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes i have haret cvs somewhere |
| 12:08.04 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : error in compressed image is just in an home/root/<folder> so nothing important. |
| 12:08.17 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 12:08.20 | BabelO_ | I try do build another clean image from scratch |
| 12:08.49 | cr2_ | BabelO_: i think it's better to release only 1 .exe file. much easier for the people :) |
| 12:09.35 | BabelO_ | cr2_: ok, i m looking into haret cvs at the moment |
| 12:13.11 | BabelO_ | cr2_: it just run with tgz file ? or cgz. but don't know what it is |
| 12:15.07 | BabelO_ | cr2_: make with cegcc give me src/mach/machines.cpp:108: error: 'wcscmp' was not declared in this scope |
| 12:15.19 | BabelO_ | i ve this last time i try to build haret myself |
| 12:18.48 | cr2_ | cgz is cpio.gz. It's for the ramdisk. |
| 12:19.08 | cr2_ | i'll try myself |
| 12:22.15 | cr2_ | BabelO_: works for me. |
| 12:22.49 | cr2_ | arm-wince-mingw32ce-g++ (GCC) 4.1.0 |
| 12:24.03 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : ah i ve not this one, i ve arm-wince-cegcc-g++ (gcc version 4.1.0) |
| 12:24.06 | cr2_ | BabelO_: we may rebuild the Kevin's initrd.cgz, but it can be done later |
| 12:24.33 | cr2_ | BabelO_: it's not the latest CVS version afaik. |
| 12:24.37 | BabelO_ | can you try my image file, like this |
| 12:26.08 | BabelO_ | ah i use cegcc and not migw32ce cegcc is only for portability application layer |
| 12:29.06 | cr2_ | BabelO_: can you test it ? i'll upload |
| 12:29.28 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : my BA is at home :( |
| 12:29.47 | BabelO_ | i m conenct on it over internet, but reboot command is not working |
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| 12:31.40 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 12:31.59 | cr2_ | i'll try a bit later. |
| 12:32.14 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : i donwload same version as you have, so i can try and made better version for you |
| 12:32.20 | BabelO_ | so it is full ramdisk then |
| 12:32.31 | cr2_ | rmadisk ? |
| 12:33.36 | cr2_ | i guess the generated ramdisk should include the modules matching the zImage, and fdisk/mke2fs/etc. busybox. |
| 12:34.22 | cr2_ | some kind of minimal rescue system. psokolovsky has already done something like that ? |
| 12:36.26 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : i usr angstrom-minimal-image as a ramdisk, so i think it is that |
| 12:50.56 | cr2_ | hope it'll work |
| 12:51.16 | cr2_ | can you create a cpio.gz with it ? |
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| 13:03.14 | ltxda2 | morning |
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| 13:16.22 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : : yes i can if you have cpio command line i always forgot it, last time it was on SCO |
| 13:19.05 | cr2_ | BabelO_: create a tar.gz i guess some experimenting will be needed anyway. |
| 13:19.38 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : ok i know test initramfs fs for artemis, and it works, so i hope it is same on ba |
| 13:23.37 | BabelO_ | cr2_: ok i just receive email, qtpoia new build just finish ;) i upload a new image bz2 in few minutes |
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| 13:53.48 | cr2_ | BabelO_: it boots :) but i didn't put the image on the SD, so the root can't be mounted |
| 13:54.51 | cr2_ | i'd like to avoid partitioning and dedicate the whole card to linux ext2fs. i think it's also easier for somebody who tries linux for the first time. |
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| 13:55.46 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : ok, i just setup my image, so you can test roadmap and build it without modem support |
| 13:56.37 | BabelO_ | it is so funny, i am connected to BA over VNC->VPN(House/Office)->LAN(Office) lol |
| 14:03.58 | cr2_ | lol |
| 14:04.22 | cr2_ | BabelO_: i think we should create a new .bb for roadmap |
| 14:04.43 | cr2_ | there are some bugs here and there, but at least it can be tested. |
| 14:17.08 | cr2_ | BabelO_: it does not look good |
| 14:17.11 | cr2_ | opt/Qtopia/lib/libQtGui.so.4.3.0 |
| 14:17.11 | cr2_ | bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. |
| 14:21.16 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : i m compressing a new one wait few minutes ;) should be better |
| 14:23.00 | cr2_ | ok. |
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| 14:53.21 | BabelO_ | cr2_: still here ;) |
| 14:53.52 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 14:53.56 | BabelO_ | can you download from my ftp ? |
| 14:55.26 | BabelO_ | it is a clean image ftp://invite:invite@82.238.28.28:7145/Qtopia-4.3.0-blueangel.tar.bz2 |
| 14:56.39 | BabelO_ | something else use this port :( |
| 14:58.21 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : ftp://invite:invite@82.238.28.28:7147/Qtopia-4.3.0-blueangel.tar.bz2 |
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| 15:01.11 | cr2_ | BabelO821: nothing there. |
| 15:02.31 | BabelO821 | cr2_ : ftp://invite:invite@82.238.28.28:7147/Qtopia-4.3.0-blueangel.tar.bz2 |
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| 15:03.39 | cr2_ | downloading |
| 15:05.06 | BabelO821 | cr2_ : this one have no error and boot with zImyou already have |
| 15:05.37 | BabelO821 | just one thing, you need to install pcmcia package from /home/root/pcmcia if you want to play with wifi |
| 15:06.05 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 15:07.16 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : network is on 192.168.1.206 for ba and you have vnc plugin for qtopia compiled in, more easier for test |
| 15:20.13 | cr2_ | BabelO_: no mkdosfs ? |
| 15:21.27 | cr2_ | no modules. and zImage on the image too. |
| 15:22.02 | cr2_ | hmm. it takes 80MB |
| 15:24.02 | cr2_ | wee. bootsplash. |
| 15:24.50 | cr2_ | no soundcards found. |
| 15:25.00 | cr2_ | avahi. wtf is that ? |
| 15:25.15 | cr2_ | hanging on bluetooth. |
| 15:26.23 | cr2_ | hmm. i've done softreset after hardreset. the wince bt drivers were not installed. i smell a kernel bug here. |
| 15:27.46 | BabelO_ | cr2_: what ? modules are on image , in lib modules... |
| 15:28.36 | BabelO_ | soundcard not found is normal |
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| 15:28.44 | cr2_ | it hangs on BT |
| 15:28.51 | cr2_ | i have inserted the USB |
| 15:28.55 | cr2_ | now |
| 15:29.14 | cr2_ | is it configured ? |
| 15:29.20 | BabelO_ | cr2_: hum bt not setup i think |
| 15:29.26 | cr2_ | what is the endpoint address ? |
| 15:29.42 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.205 |
| 15:29.49 | BabelO_ | and ssh 192.168.1.206 |
| 15:30.07 | cr2_ | hmm. it was different for opie ? |
| 15:30.54 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : it is my own setup because my home network and office network are already on 192.168.0.0 and then conflict with gateway, so each time i need to create a specific rroute |
| 15:31.29 | cr2_ | ok, but we should think about a default setting. |
| 15:31.35 | cr2_ | logged in. |
| 15:31.55 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.57 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes agree, i give you image i install on my ba |
| 15:31.59 | cr2_ | is it right ? |
| 15:32.12 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : no it is default image, need to remove it |
| 15:32.24 | BabelO_ | i remove it from my reference image then |
| 15:32.49 | cr2_ | we need to make it $MACHINE dependent |
| 15:33.04 | cr2_ | hmm. does bt need a module ? |
| 15:33.14 | cr2_ | lsmod does not show anything useful |
| 15:33.24 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : no module |
| 15:33.31 | cr2_ | BabelO_: think about hima and magician, too :) |
| 15:33.36 | cr2_ | really ? |
| 15:33.43 | cr2_ | no BT power up/down ? |
| 15:34.21 | cr2_ | or is it done in a more clever way now ? |
| 15:35.10 | cr2_ | blueangel_lcd_hw_init_preblueangel_lcd_hw_init_post |
| 15:35.15 | cr2_ | LCD suspended. |
| 15:35.43 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : hciattach /dev/ttyS3 any, it is enough for test |
| 15:36.34 | BabelO_ | cr2_: , can you start qtpoia ? to know if it is ok ? |
| 15:37.10 | BabelO_ | it is a devel image ;) but i think i upgrade it with your remarks |
| 15:37.46 | cr2_ | killed getty |
| 15:37.58 | cr2_ | hcitool scan |
| 15:38.11 | cr2_ | does not show anything. need to start some other bt device. |
| 15:38.19 | cr2_ | how do i start qtopia ? |
| 15:38.39 | cr2_ | ser_hwuart_gpio_config 1 |
| 15:38.43 | cr2_ | that's good. |
| 15:39.34 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : to start qtopia first you need to calibrate screen |
| 15:39.38 | BabelO_ | with ts_calibrate |
| 15:40.04 | cr2_ | hmm. ? |
| 15:40.12 | cr2_ | no /etc/init.d script ? |
| 15:40.41 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : no :( is it a qtpoia work or a image work ? |
| 15:41.15 | cr2_ | the power LED is red |
| 15:41.21 | cr2_ | keyboard does not work |
| 15:41.24 | BabelO_ | yes, it is charging ;) |
| 15:41.42 | cr2_ | i see /opt/Qtopia/qpe.sh |
| 15:42.21 | cr2_ | Starting Qtopia... |
| 15:42.21 | cr2_ | Sat Jul 2 13:49:01 UTC 1994 |
| 15:42.32 | cr2_ | nothing on the LCD. |
| 15:42.51 | BabelO_ | take a while first time |
| 15:43.04 | cr2_ | opt/Qtopia/bin/qpe is running in the background |
| 15:43.14 | cr2_ | yeah. now it's alive |
| 15:43.26 | cr2_ | no modem |
| 15:43.33 | BabelO_ | yes, i m working on it |
| 15:43.47 | cr2_ | no Voip |
| 15:43.56 | BabelO_ | and our old keyboard plugin are not working :( |
| 15:44.21 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : i setup my voip network from my internet provider wifi wifi ;) |
| 15:44.24 | cr2_ | we'll change that |
| 15:44.36 | cr2_ | ts_cal saved the cal values ? |
| 15:44.49 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes /etc/pointercal |
| 15:45.11 | cr2_ | yes... |
| 15:45.48 | BabelO_ | cr2_ export QWS_DISPLAY=VNC and export QWS_SIZE=240x320 |
| 15:45.57 | BabelO_ | if you want remote vnc control |
| 15:46.17 | cr2_ | weird. |
| 15:46.19 | cr2_ | Unknown HZ value! (92) Assume 100 |
| 15:46.26 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : one more thing is that kernel try to load acx each time |
| 15:46.40 | cr2_ | the kernel ? |
| 15:46.42 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : i don't know why |
| 15:47.04 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes, so you need to install package i copy in home/root/pcmcia |
| 15:47.29 | BabelO_ | with ipkg install pcmciautils_* and ipkg install pcmcia-3.2.8* |
| 15:47.41 | BabelO_ | then pccard eject to save power consumption |
| 15:48.02 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 15:48.14 | cr2_ | why does qtopia starts so slowly ? |
| 15:48.45 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : first time it use dbmigrate and some qmedia daemon to parse and index your sdcard |
| 15:49.05 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : can you navigate into menu ? |
| 15:49.42 | cr2_ | hehe. what if 'll use 8GB card with all 17level google tiles in it ? 8) |
| 15:50.08 | BabelO_ | lol one days of indexing |
| 15:50.10 | cr2_ | yes, now when i've recalibrated the ts properly, it works. |
| 15:50.39 | BabelO_ | qtopia look nice now with this theme |
| 15:50.46 | BabelO_ | a little black, but nice |
| 15:50.55 | cr2_ | i find it too dark. |
| 15:51.24 | cr2_ | the response is very slow. |
| 15:51.29 | BabelO_ | yes jott have nice theme |
| 15:52.39 | BabelO_ | cr2_: hmm cpufreq is full speed, but first time it is slow |
| 15:52.53 | BabelO_ | once it refresh db, look better |
| 15:53.17 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : can you check in dmesg if uda1380if loaded properly ? |
| 15:53.50 | cr2_ | Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link) ver 0.5 |
| 15:54.10 | cr2_ | no sound modules loaded |
| 15:54.25 | cr2_ | sco 10308 2 |
| 15:54.29 | cr2_ | rfcomm 35868 10 |
| 15:54.33 | cr2_ | hidp 15040 2 |
| 15:54.37 | cr2_ | l2cap 20580 10 rfcomm,hidp |
| 15:54.41 | cr2_ | g_ether 24076 0 |
| 15:54.41 | cr2_ | blueangel_pcmcia 4064 1 |
| 15:54.42 | cr2_ | pxa2xx_core 11648 1 blueangel_pcmcia |
| 15:54.42 | cr2_ | pcmcia_core 31952 1 pxa2xx_core |
| 15:54.42 | cr2_ | that's all |
| 15:54.46 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : hum don't understand i create snd-soc_blueangel in /etc/modutils |
| 15:55.25 | BabelO_ | i think you have to pccardctl eject, else ba shutdown with not enough power |
| 15:55.49 | cr2_ | some strange commands running in the background |
| 15:55.55 | BabelO_ | which one ? |
| 15:56.05 | cr2_ | i'm on AC |
| 15:56.14 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.24 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:58.24 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : that's why red light, apm should show charging |
| 15:58.36 | cr2_ | ok, so i need to create a GPS icon ? |
| 15:58.51 | cr2_ | the battery indicator does not show anything. |
| 15:58.57 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : mediaserver is for sound and qdsync is new, it is for desktop synchronize |
| 15:59.02 | cr2_ | i can take the gpsd icons |
| 15:59.11 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes, because charging |
| 15:59.18 | cr2_ | i can switch both off :) |
| 15:59.25 | cr2_ | weird. no animation ? |
| 15:59.30 | BabelO_ | you want gps icon on top of screen, or just on menu to start ? |
| 15:59.46 | cr2_ | in the Settings menu |
| 16:00.03 | cr2_ | because it does not fit in any category. |
| 16:00.14 | cr2_ | does wifi has its own ? |
| 16:00.18 | cr2_ | BT and IR have. |
| 16:00.27 | BabelO_ | ah ah that's the good question lol |
| 16:00.39 | BabelO_ | wifi have is own icon like a radio signal |
| 16:01.05 | cr2_ | no in the settings ? |
| 16:01.22 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : : wait i start my vnc |
| 16:01.35 | cr2_ | i think greenphone supports socket P300 wifi, so there must be some support |
| 16:01.57 | cr2_ | or is it hidden under network ? |
| 16:02.05 | cr2_ | it's a bit inconsistent. |
| 16:02.56 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : settings -> Internet -> new(bottom left ) |
| 16:03.09 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 16:03.18 | cr2_ | still it's inconsistent |
| 16:03.38 | cr2_ | btw, where is the CAM control ? |
| 16:04.17 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : no cam control just application -> camera |
| 16:04.33 | cr2_ | ok, something to think about. |
| 16:04.51 | cr2_ | i always keep universal in mind. |
| 16:04.59 | cr2_ | there should be a way to chose the CAM. |
| 16:06.16 | cr2_ | the clock looks cool. |
| 16:06.23 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : i need to fix qtpoia pcmcia control |
| 16:06.28 | cr2_ | but the skin is too dark for me. |
| 16:06.51 | smev | on a htc kaiser is there anyway to redirect audio out the front earphone rather then the rear speaker ? |
| 16:06.54 | cr2_ | are the kontakts linked to the phonebook ? |
| 16:07.36 | cr2_ | smev: in wince ? we are not yet so deep into the hw details on it. |
| 16:08.09 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes |
| 16:08.16 | smev | cr2_: yes in wm6 |
| 16:08.16 | cr2_ | BabelO_: oh. it suspended. i've resumed. |
| 16:08.42 | cr2_ | but it suspended again. not very user-friendly |
| 16:08.57 | cr2_ | touched the screen, now it does not "resuspend" |
| 16:09.01 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes qtopia setting are very low |
| 16:09.08 | cr2_ | smev: no idea about wince :) |
| 16:09.11 | smev | cr2_: I was thinking it may be possible to sniff the api that gets called when a normal phone call is made, and apply that to the voip |
| 16:09.21 | BabelO_ | and i think it is a battery related problem with icon charge |
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| 16:09.52 | cr2_ | smev: i am sure about the sound routing only on the universal. |
| 16:10.08 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : when it resume go fast to settings -> powermanagement :) |
| 16:10.10 | cr2_ | maybe on hermes |
| 16:10.29 | cr2_ | because it looks as it's the same as on universal. |
| 16:10.59 | cr2_ | BabelO_: but the LCD resumes. and it's good. poor 0x6 users :D |
| 16:11.35 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes it resume, and thanks to you :) thats you whio fix delay between gpios |
| 16:11.59 | smev | cr2_: the universal should be close enough to the kasier... |
| 16:12.32 | cr2_ | smev: not really. do you know the kaiser internals ? |
| 16:14.03 | cr2_ | calculator looks strange. and the calendar is different from a780 |
| 16:14.13 | smev | cr2_: I don't know much about the kaiser yet, I just got it 3 days ago |
| 16:14.15 | cr2_ | i'm comparing it to the a780 now. |
| 16:15.03 | cr2_ | smev: does testwm5 work on kaiser ? haret ? |
| 16:16.11 | cr2_ | BabelO_: does qtmail support SSL ? |
| 16:16.21 | cr2_ | spop3 |
| 16:16.26 | cr2_ | maybe suucp :) |
| 16:17.18 | cr2_ | BabelO_: why there are 2 calendar entries in Applications ? |
| 16:17.40 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : no , qtopia does not provide openssl with new version, but next time i recompile with it |
| 16:17.47 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 16:18.30 | smev | cr2_: what is testwm5 ? I'm still getting into the windows mobile stuff, I've been on the PalmOS for the last 8 years |
| 16:18.37 | cr2_ | there is 1 free screen entry on the Apps screen. i need a roadmap logo. |
| 16:19.12 | cr2_ | smev: it's an evil tool to dump wince .exe and .dll files :) |
| 16:22.20 | cr2_ | BabelO_: suspend 4m |
| 16:22.31 | smev | cr2_: where do I download it ? |
| 16:22.53 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : yes and display suspend settings ? |
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| 16:23.22 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : i think i set a bad display size, icon look small to me |
| 16:26.50 | cr2_ | BabelO_: i like qtopia4. now we only need to squash the bugs ;) |
| 16:28.32 | cr2_ | smev: something is broken with my private messages. there are devices where such management is impossible, there are devices where most everything is possible. i don't know anything about kaiser yet. |
| 16:30.40 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : agree, and before modem ;) i m not so far |
| 16:32.07 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : there is also some bug fix in kernel needed keyboard sometimes lock to repeat mode and sound record, i need to publish gsm reset and gsm power as a platform param like dic do and maybe same for bluetooth |
| 16:32.30 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 16:32.37 | cr2_ | platform ? |
| 16:32.53 | cr2_ | i think it's a serial port property ? |
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| 16:35.00 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : ah ? i just know how to publish to /sys/devices/platform/phone/power for example |
| 16:35.59 | cr2_ | do we know this ? |
| 16:36.10 | cr2_ | phone reset != phone power |
| 16:36.35 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : need more trace i think, i have the correct sequence for reset, but not power |
| 16:37.12 | cr2_ | does wince switch the gsm module off ? |
| 16:37.25 | cr2_ | it may be some gpio that never changes :) |
| 16:37.40 | cr2_ | so you'll never have a trace. |
| 16:37.48 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : there is some airplane mode ? |
| 16:37.55 | BabelO_ | maybe just shutdown radio |
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| 16:42.19 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : i m going back to home now, i hope i can see a roadmap screenshot ;) i ve to look seroiously to ba modem this evening |
| 16:42.20 | cr2_ | we can deduce something from fic but you never know. |
| 16:42.29 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 16:42.42 | cr2_ | i'll try to commit my roadmap changes to CVS. |
| 16:43.25 | cr2_ | with my broken oe it's better when you or goxboxlive compile an ipk |
| 16:44.02 | BabelO_ | cr2_ : or a qipk ;) |
| 16:45.35 | cr2_ | what is qipk ? |
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| 17:12.09 | BabelO | cr2_: qipk or something like that is qtopia package :) |
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| 17:22.26 | BabelO | cr2 i see that there is a QMatrix, nice to set roadmap 3d map ;) |
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| 17:29.12 | cr2 | BabelO: thers is roadmap3d |
| 17:29.18 | cr2 | already |
| 17:29.37 | cr2 | in a device-independant way |
| 17:31.15 | cr2 | ugly png icons |
| 17:31.17 | cr2 | http://kleptog.org/temp/test3.html |
| 17:34.52 | BabelO | ok |
| 17:35.18 | BabelO | i m setting up all trace in qtopia to show where modem at commands hang |
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| 18:21.42 | kiozen | hi |
| 18:21.53 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 18:22.13 | kiozen | what's that http://kleptog.org/temp/test3.html link? |
| 18:22.27 | kiozen | is it roadmap on a server? |
| 18:27.05 | kiozen | hell, this page is rendering fast |
| 18:31.20 | cr2 | kiozen: hi |
| 18:31.54 | cr2 | kiozen: have you already seen that ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy |
| 18:36.37 | kiozen | cr: yes I know, but it still has outdated informtion about bugs in QLankdarte. |
| 18:37.10 | kiozen | that is the problem with blogs. they never catch up or delete :) |
| 18:37.42 | kiozen | but the screenshots are nice :) |
| 18:38.31 | kiozen | I should add the version info to the application name .... |
| 18:39.36 | kiozen | and fix that damn string placement for polyline ... |
| 18:40.27 | kiozen | well after I finished that argument with Mr. Gauss Krueger ... |
| 18:41.22 | kiozen | we are still different opinion where to place waypoints :/ |
| 18:46.22 | cr2 | ? |
| 18:46.26 | cr2 | why ? |
| 18:47.18 | kiozen | the datum shift to WGS84 isn't constant over the area |
| 18:48.12 | kiozen | and I suspect the Topo10 files to have bad georeferencing information |
| 18:48.28 | kiozen | or the format interpretation has errors :) |
| 18:50.24 | cr2 | sounds very strange to me |
| 18:50.47 | cr2 | why do you need a datum shift ? |
| 18:51.05 | kiozen | from Potsdam to WGS84 |
| 18:51.22 | kiozen | a kind soule pointed me towards: http://crs.bkg.bund.de/crseu/crs/descrtrans/BeTA/de_dhdn2etrs_beta.php |
| 18:51.33 | cr2 | ok, but what are you going to do with lan/long ? |
| 18:51.54 | kiozen | all GPS input is lan/lon |
| 18:52.32 | kiozen | and if I want to overlay vector maps I have to prject them in Gauss Krüger |
| 18:52.57 | cr2 | yes. but why is it a problem ? |
| 18:53.58 | kiozen | if I select a point somewhere on the bitmap and convert the nothing easting to lon lat in WGS84 |
| 18:54.17 | kiozen | the resulting coordinates will not be the same as in QLandkarte |
| 18:54.34 | kiozen | however with the GeoGrid app they are - of course |
| 18:55.31 | kiozen | Fran Warmerdam told me that the datum shift ist dependent on the location |
| 18:56.01 | kiozen | and someone from Landesvermessungsamt NRW pointed me to the link |
| 18:56.43 | kiozen | live isn't as easy as suspected.. |
| 18:56.49 | cr2 | how are you converting them ? with proj4 ? |
| 18:56.54 | kiozen | sure |
| 18:57.08 | cr2 | hm. strange. |
| 18:57.35 | kiozen | well Frank wasn't astonished. It seemd quite normal to him :) |
| 19:00.53 | cr2 | but datum shift is a hack. |
| 19:01.12 | cr2 | proj4 goes to ECEF and then back. afaik |
| 19:01.13 | kiozen | ? |
| 19:01.38 | cr2 | gps measures ECEF |
| 19:02.01 | cr2 | and converts it to lat/long/z for some ellipsoid |
| 19:02.38 | cr2 | you want to have a different ellipsoid and TM aka GK on top of that. |
| 19:03.04 | cr2 | there is only 1 mathematical solution. |
| 19:03.38 | cr2 | to make it faster, people to 7-parameter transforms and such weird stuff. |
| 19:03.46 | cr2 | s/to/do/ |
| 19:04.20 | kiozen | according to the document from the link you have to adjust the result on an area base |
| 19:04.32 | kiozen | to get real close results |
| 19:05.13 | kiozen | I do get close results, but they are still several meters of |
| 19:05.36 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:05.55 | cr2 | i need a 2frequency gps receiver first :) |
| 19:06.06 | kiozen | hehe :) |
| 19:06.23 | kiozen | you can even see it with a normal one, too |
| 19:06.39 | cr2 | i was told there is a company in belgium that sells such chipsets. |
| 19:07.26 | cr2 | i've tried to measure a land plot with the "normal" one and compare with the kadaster data. |
| 19:07.34 | cr2 | did not look very good ;-) |
| 19:08.06 | kiozen | how much off? |
| 19:08.48 | kiozen | btw the pdf from above has a nice pic on how the grid is distroted |
| 19:09.03 | cr2 | 4-5 meters random offset, even with the least squares. |
| 19:09.41 | cr2 | i should have used something like that http://precision-gps.org |
| 19:09.46 | kiozen | well, yes seems normal for sirf3 |
| 19:09.50 | cr2 | but i'd like to do it with sirf2. |
| 19:10.09 | cr2 | sirf3 is a crippled thing. |
| 19:10.16 | cr2 | at least in the firmware. |
| 19:10.48 | kiozen | sure it is used by Garmin - equal friends ;) |
| 19:11.23 | cr2 | u-blox used it too. before they created antaris. |
| 19:11.25 | kiozen | what do you need the prcision for? Climbing the Zugspitze blinfolded? |
| 19:11.38 | cr2 | it makes fun :) |
| 19:12.44 | kiozen | the things I normally search are several hundered meters off location |
| 19:14.48 | cr2 | i'd like to measure water density and temperature with some altitude resolution. |
| 19:15.06 | cr2 | without having a lidar at home ;-) |
| 19:17.06 | cr2 | btw, i#ve tried to load this worldmap in gpsmapedit. |
| 19:17.26 | kiozen | the chinese one? |
| 19:17.41 | cr2 | it whines about non-empty last TRE section. and then crashes. |
| 19:17.44 | cr2 | no, the OSM. |
| 19:18.07 | kiozen | :) |
| 19:18.52 | kiozen | QLandkarte seems to do it right 8) |
| 19:20.41 | cr2 | :D |
| 19:20.54 | cr2 | but qlandkarte does not convert to .mp |
| 19:21.10 | cr2 | i wanted to convert it to .rdm |
| 19:21.48 | cr2 | without troubling myself with this bloated OSM XML format. |
| 19:21.57 | kiozen | lol |
| 19:22.03 | kiozen | xml sucks |
| 19:22.20 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:23.45 | kiozen | it's just sad that QLandkarte is outdated after a year. |
| 19:23.57 | kiozen | the new NT format will make it obsolete |
| 19:24.22 | kiozen | and I doubt that there will be such a nice spec. again |
| 19:24.58 | cr2 | the new format is smaller ? |
| 19:25.37 | kiozen | yes, and the maps are pretty good. Topo Germany V2 is close to the official Topo maps |
| 19:26.19 | cr2 | interesting. |
| 19:26.33 | kiozen | maybe the just used a zip algo over the div data area. |
| 19:26.53 | cr2 | lol. then make qlandkarte work with .rdm :) |
| 19:27.22 | cr2 | if they use deflate it should be very easy to detect. |
| 19:27.48 | cr2 | by gathering statistics on 0x78 0xda pairs |
| 19:28.09 | kiozen | next Geocache Stammtisch I try to get a tile :) |
| 19:28.28 | cr2 | :) |
| 19:29.03 | cr2 | but if they are clever they have stripped 0x78da from the stream ;) |
| 19:29.18 | kiozen | btw the next gen of QLandkarte, if ever, will be more modular to support more format |
| 19:29.31 | kiozen | but usually they do not do clever things |
| 19:29.37 | cr2 | do it now. |
| 19:29.55 | cr2 | having the rdm support will be very helpful. |
| 19:30.18 | kiozen | first Mr Gauss Krueger :) |
| 19:30.20 | cr2 | and these are just mmap'able arrays. |
| 19:30.22 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:30.24 | kiozen | I need this for hiking |
| 19:30.31 | kiozen | and finding caves |
| 19:31.27 | ImCoKeMaN | oh yeah cr2 you wanted me to try the lsmod right? |
| 19:34.22 | cr2 | yes. |
| 19:36.02 | kiozen | bye |
| 19:36.16 | ImCoKeMaN | can you output that to a file? |
| 19:37.13 | cr2 | i think there is a "LOG" command |
| 19:37.20 | BabelO | cr2: do you know what is standard AT+CSCS setup ? |
| 19:38.29 | ImCoKeMaN | wow that was easy cr2 thanks |
| 19:38.52 | cr2 | BabelO: i'll look at my logs |
| 19:39.00 | BabelO | cr2: thanks |
| 19:40.50 | ImCoKeMaN | where do you want this dcc? it's 33k |
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| 19:50.56 | ImCoKeMaN | ftp://ppcgeeks:ezupload@ftp.ppcgeeks.com/Titan/Users/ImCoKeMaN/titanlsmod.txt |
| 19:53.15 | cr2_ | ok, thanks |
| 19:54.05 | ImCoKeMaN | do you know about the KITL mode? |
| 19:55.43 | cr2_ | it uses some RPC calls, so you need the platform builder to use it. |
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| 19:56.14 | cr2_ | i wish somebody with an USB logger like SnoopyPro logged the RPC calls. |
| 19:56.17 | ImCoKeMaN | hmm that's cool i was wondering if there's a way to find what the sequence would be to enter it |
| 19:57.16 | ImCoKeMaN | i've logged the ruu program with a usb monitor and found the password, but then noticed it would have been easier to look at the SPL for that info |
| 19:57.17 | cr2_ | BabelO: is QWS still defined on qtopia ? |
| 19:57.26 | cr2_ | lol |
| 19:58.18 | ImCoKeMaN | i've never had the chance to do this detailed work on a device before so i'm gonna learn a lot the hard way =) |
| 19:58.33 | BabelO | cr2_: yes |
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