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10:48.42cr2_Kevin2: i think i've understood the qualcomm gpio layout for banks 0,2,3,4 (+cpld). 1 is a bit bizarre, maybe my hex math is not ok ;-) i'll check later today.
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12:20.42Kevin2cr2_: I'm impressed!
12:21.09cr2_hi Kevin2. htc did a good job :)
12:22.29cr2_i'd also like to do some traces on athena. will need to extend the python scripts a bit to add the decoding information.
12:23.28cr2_it seems we will be able to catch all irqs and gpio changes on msm7500
12:23.45Kevin2cr2_: Yeah, lets extend the regs_xx.py stuff as much as we can.
12:24.05Kevin2cr2_: Wow, you found the irq registers also!
12:24.10cr2_ok.
12:24.21cr2_gpio in/out/irq
12:24.40cr2_they are documented in the debug comments
12:25.06Kevin2Ahh, cool.
12:25.07cr2_Output_EN0 (0......15) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x
12:25.16cr2_Output_Level0 (0......15) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x
12:25.23cr2_Input_Level0 (0......15) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x
12:25.31cr2_Intr_EN0 (0......15) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x
12:25.39cr2_Owner0 (0......15) --- Addr=0x%x, Val=0x%x
12:25.54cr2_the CPLD has 9 16bit registers
12:26.01cr2_A-I
12:26.44cr2_but there will be some tough things. like MDDI.
12:27.36Kevin29 is a lot - more than twice any of the other devices I think.
12:28.02cr2_maybe only 3-4 of them are really used.
12:29.20Kevin2BTW, on gnu-haret you have a bunch of register dumping tools for pxa.  I was thinking of adding that to mainline haret but via the watch stuff.  Take a look at how I add the CLOCKS registers to pxa at: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/haret/src/mach/arch-pxa27x.cpp
12:29.32Kevin2Does that make sense?
12:30.02cr2_it was done in perl, and i've adapted it to c/c++. python should not be a problem.
12:30.54cr2_looks good.
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12:32.03cr2_btw, is it possible to do a "human" conversion of 'mcr p15, ...'  ?
12:33.06Kevin2Via watch - sure, take a look at: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/haret/haretconsole/regs_pxa.py
12:33.31Kevin2See the part with:       "insn:ee170e10": ("PWRMODE", ((3, "VC"), ("0-2", "M"))),
12:34.49cr2_ok, so i need to check the syntax.
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12:40.19cr2_hi koizen
12:40.33cr2_damn keyboard.
12:41.22cr2_kiozen: i've found an interesting link for you.
12:41.45kiozenhi cr2
12:41.59kiozenthe one about the mpr
12:42.00kiozen?
12:42.06kiozen<PROTECTED>
12:42.20cr2_no. about the mellon :)
12:42.29kiozenohhhhhh
12:42.41cr2_but i'm more interested about NOD/NET myself
12:43.35kiozenI am more concerned about NT map
12:44.01kiozenI guess QLandkarte is faster autdated than I thought
12:44.07cr2_kiozen: http://slil.ru/24844600
12:45.38cr2_i'm doing a lot of progress with roadmap, so a good format understanding is important for me.
12:46.36kiozencan you translate the UNLOCK.doc ?
12:47.09cr2_i'll have a look.
12:47.38cr2_maybe .java is sufficient.
12:50.00cr2_faq is useless, the top text may be interesting.
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12:51.47kiozensh... laptop powersupply died
12:52.53Kevin2Off to work, be back later.
12:54.48cr2_kiozen: babelfish is bearable, but if you really need it i can translate accurately. the text is chaotic anyway.
12:55.23kiozenok forget it, i'll have a look at the code
12:55.45kiozenbtw I can convert mpr to geotiff now
12:55.58cr2_great. one more step forward.
12:56.18cr2_i've learned how to glue the cutted polygons together.
12:56.29cr2_http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/wiki/Dissolve_polygons
13:00.30BabelOhi
13:01.20cr2_hi BabelO
13:01.54cr2_BabelO: start the wiki on omap850 cpu. i'm busy with qualcomm ;)
13:02.22BabelOcr2_ : can you explain me what is a gps receiver with 2 chennel, is it good ? mine on artemis is a 20 channels
13:03.43BabelOcr2_ :  yes i have to register again, but i m a little busy with my app for greenphone too, yesturday i start a grep 0xfff * -R on kernel tree to get and filter all omap register, it is file i send to you, now i need to order it and check it ;)
13:04.46cr2_you mean 2 frequency, not 2 channel. sirf3 is not really 20 channel, it's more of a marketing trick.
13:05.10cr2_ok, maybe today in the evening, we can reuse the garmin omap page too.
13:05.30cr2_if you have a 2 frequency gps, i'd like to have one too :)
13:07.19cr2_kiozen: i'm really tempted to reflash the basemap, but can't find some time to write a flasher.
13:07.41BabelOcr2_ : sorry it is a keyboard failure, i want to mean 20 channels. i m very happy with that, sensibility is really nice
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13:09.10cr2_2 frequency receiver corrects the ionospheric delay better than a mathematical model.
13:09.49cr2_i don't like sirf3 because they do not include carrier phase output in the firmware.
13:10.08cr2_because of the $$$$
13:11.12BabelOcr2_ : yes i read link you post yesturday about sirf2 and phase carrier
13:12.02cr2_and hacking sirf firmware is too much :) but it's an arm-based cpu too.
13:12.51cr2_but they don't leave such nice debugging messages in the binaries like htc does.
13:13.38BabelOcr2_ : i understand better now, why you like HTC and why htc linux devzel go fast ;)
13:14.30BabelOyesturday i try http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/gps/dgps-ip.html
13:16.59cr2_yes, but you need to calculate your own position very accurately in the first place.
13:18.11kiozencr2: do you think that the basemap stuff is worth the work? I am not very keen on programmin a Garmin on assembly base :)
13:19.32kiozenI would like to program that one more  :) http://satmap.com/
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13:19.43cr2_kiozen: if we'd ever like to replace the garmin firmware, then yes. you don't need assembly for flashing, only to modify the available c/c++ code and use the standard update.exe
13:20.01BabelOcr2_ : yes, or try it at a position you know :)
13:20.40kiozenI guess you have to use assembly if you only got 2MB or ram, don't you?
13:21.01cr2_BabelO: i'd like to know the position first. with gpstk or something like that http://precision-gps.org
13:21.31cr2_kiozen: many phones use omap-linux, and the kernel is using XIP.
13:22.08cr2_intel's 16MB NOR flash is good exactly for that :)
13:23.01kiozenbut didn't you say the 76Csx only got 2MB of ram?
13:24.04BabelOcr2_ : i use visual gps xp, it survey mode for 2 hours, but not sure about the result, need to read all this article :)
13:25.52cr2_kiozen: yes, 2MB SRAM, but you can put the kernel .text into NOR flash and use it as XIP. then write a nano-X aka microwindows for roadmap.
13:30.02cr2_imvho it's a feasible task.
13:30.58cr2_but i need to finish the qt4 version and teach it to use/compile the .mp maps.
13:33.33kiozenok (sorry I am a little busy to contact DELL customer service :/, damm it always on Fridays ...)
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13:43.50ipaq_rx_5720hello cr2_
13:52.13ipaq_rx_5720can anybody help me analyzing my testwm5 dump
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14:43.45Dreaddddddhi
14:47.07Dreaddddddwhat pda use quallcom chipset MSM6250 as applications processor?
14:48.22dcordeshtctitan?
14:48.39Dreaddddddmaybee
14:48.44dcordesI think so
14:48.44Dreaddddddi dont know
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14:48.59dcordestitan and the other new htc
14:49.02Dreaddddddhtctitan use WM6 ?
14:49.04dcordesboth use same system
14:49.09dcordesdon't know
14:49.15dcordesbug BabelO or cr2_
14:49.20dcordesthey
14:49.38Dreaddddddu from russia ? :)
14:50.03Dreaddddddgood
14:50.07dcordesomg I should rip off my enter key. They are the gurus. Think they're tryiing to develop for qualcomm atm
14:50.23dcordesDreadddddd: no I'm from germany
14:51.50dcordesDreadddddd: maybe there's information on qualcomm related stuff yet on the wiki: xda-developers.org
14:52.08Dreaddddddlink?
14:53.07dcordesjust a second
14:53.36dcordeshttp://wiki.xda-developers.com
14:54.20dcordesDreadddddd: there you go
14:54.35Dreaddddddi am there
14:54.47Dreaddddddi think..
14:55.10Dreadddddd[..::17:49:58::..] <dcordes> omg I should rip off my enter key.
14:55.18Dreaddddddwhat is enter key ?
14:55.32dcordesa button I press too often.
14:55.56Dreadddddddont understending
14:56.04Dreaddddddok
14:56.32Dreadddddddo you know something about Siemens SXG75 ?
14:57.34dcordesno sorry. You could take a look at the logs. They're full of useful information.
14:57.54dcordeshttp://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/
14:58.40dcordeshope I could help
15:00.04Dreaddddddu leav in Germany and u nothing lisen about Siemens SXG75 ? (
15:00.25dcordesyes. I don't know too much about phones and linux in general
15:00.40dcordesI'm just interested newbie :)
15:02.38Dreaddddddcr2_ hi u use htctitan ?
15:02.54dcordesDreadddddd: what CPU does sxg75 have?
15:03.14Dreadddddddcordes http://forum.modopo.com/diskussionen-rund-ums-modding/t-14747-ef81-experimentelle-soft-fuer-die-amssmbn/page1.html
15:03.17dcordeswhat operating system? wm5?
15:03.24DreaddddddBREW (
15:04.03cr2_Dreadddddd: i don't have titan, i'm only writing about it: )
15:04.09cr2_http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanMemoryMap
15:04.32Dreaddddddcr2_ htctitan use msm6250 as applications processor?
15:04.41cr2_msm7500
15:04.41dcordessome qualcomm
15:04.54Dreadddddd=\
15:05.03dcordessorry I don't want to give wrong info
15:05.04cr2_afair 6250 is used on the universal as a phone.
15:05.08Dreaddddddcr2_ what htc use MSM6250 ?
15:05.14dcordeslet the techs take over :D
15:05.37Dreaddddddcr2_ now i searc that use as applications processor
15:05.52dcordesDreadddddd: the website has extractor for BREW filesystem (see MBN-Ressourcer.rar)
15:06.11Dreadddddddcordes and what ?
15:06.12cr2_Dreadddddd: why ?
15:06.44dcordeshave to go, bye
15:06.56Dreaddddddbye
15:07.43Dreaddddddcr2_ i wont preinstal some os on my phone
15:07.43Dreaddddddbecouse BREW is too bad
15:08.44Dreaddddddcr2_ htctitan = htc universal ?
15:09.19cr2_Dreadddddd: of course not.
15:09.37Dreaddddddok
15:09.50Dreadddddddo you want to see bootloader ?
15:09.54Dreaddddddmsm6250 ?
15:10.11Dreaddddddthat readed by JTAG
15:10.57ipaq_rx_6720cr2_ can you help me now analyzing the dump of testwm5 please
15:11.00cr2_hmm. you can take the radio from universal. looking for a link.
15:11.18cr2_ipaq_rx_6720: analyzing ?
15:11.47ipaq_rx_6720you know yesterday, as you said i should upload the dump somewhere
15:12.00cr2_yes
15:12.04cr2_Dreadddddd: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Specs
15:12.23cr2_Dreadddddd: where can i look at the bl ?
15:22.16Dreaddddddcr2_ www.nonamegsm.biz/sxg75/
15:23.05Dreaddddddfulldump .... sim_secure ... bootloader all doing by JTAG
15:25.13Dreadddddd!ping me
15:25.13Dreadddddd$ping me
15:30.08cr2_Dreadddddd: ok, looking
15:30.59cr2_the .bin file ?
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15:42.22Dreadddddd[..::18:30:07::..] <cr2_> Dreadddddd: ok, looking
15:42.24Dreadddddd[..::18:31:28::..] <Dreadddddd> cr2_ www.kraze1984.narod.ru
15:42.24Dreadddddd[..::18:31:41::..] <Dreadddddd> some info about ARM
15:42.30Dreaddddddsorry bad connecion
15:42.37Dreadddddd*connection
15:43.40cr2_Dreadddddd: you can't do very much without a qualcomm manual. the address spaces obviously do not match with msm7500 looking at your bl.
15:44.13Dreaddddddcr2_ where i can get this manual?
15:44.15cr2_you can look at the radio code from the universal, but it is still very difficult to do anything.
15:44.27cr2_hehe. ask qualcomm 8)
15:44.49Dreadddddd-)
15:45.08cr2_if you want to run linux, look for a different phone.
15:45.41Dreaddddddlinux WM symbian..
15:45.52cr2_we are bothered by msm7500 because htc uses it on all new phones, and the phone part itself runs microkernel version of linux.
15:45.57Dreaddddddsomething that hasnot signature
15:46.11Dreaddddddyes
15:46.21DreaddddddBuild Type                : [SGLPK]= Siemens Generated Linux build with Production Key
15:46.35Dreaddddddmy mobile use it too
15:46.41cr2_on the siemens phone ?
15:47.06Dreaddddddyes
15:48.04cr2_still, it will be very difficult. look where a780 linux aka ezx is now.
15:48.31cr2_http://openezx.org
15:48.53Dreaddddddbootloader is in OTP zone... that cannot be rewrite..
15:49.08cr2_and they had full linux kernel source from motorola, and the cpu is pxa270.
15:51.22Dreaddddddhm..
15:51.36Dreaddddddwww.kraze1984.narod.ru
15:51.41Dreaddddddu see it ?
15:54.47cr2_yes, but it's very slow and in russian.
15:57.38Dreaddddddυμ..
15:57.46Dreaddddddou sorry
15:57.50Dreaddddddhm..
15:58.31Dreaddddddcr2_ u dont know how disactivate cheaking signature ?
15:58.38cr2_no.
15:58.45Dreadddddd=\
15:59.19Dreaddddddi dissamble bl in IDA but... nothing can understend
16:02.34Dreaddddddcr2_ what the way u think is so good to preinstall linux or some OS on my phone or it imposible ?
16:03.24cr2_it's extremely difficult.
16:06.01Dreaddddddthnx
16:06.56Dreaddddddhate benq -)
16:08.31Dreaddddddcr2_ where u from ?
16:08.54cr2_germany
16:10.39Dreaddddddhm...
16:10.39Dreadddddddo u wont work in some project ?
16:11.16cr2_i have enough work as is ;-)
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16:14.39Dreadddddddo you see it ? http://forum.modopo.com/diskussionen-rund-ums-modding/t-14747-ef81-experimentelle-soft-fuer-die-amssmbn/page1.html
16:17.59cr2_i have no experience with BREW
16:20.47Dreaddddddcr2_ do u know where i can find irc network where discasing BREW or siemens ?
16:21.21Dreadddddd[Dreadddddd PING reply]: 2mins 49secs
16:21.21Dreaddddddgreat hate my internet connection -)
16:25.05cr2_no idea. this channel is about porting linux to the htc wince phones.
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16:33.05Dreaddddddi know )
16:33.10Dreaddddddok
16:33.30Dreaddddddover my head better that dead -)
16:33.40Dreaddddddtime to go
16:33.47Dreaddddddbye
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17:37.06laurapof?
17:38.04laurapof: estas?
17:40.07laura!whois laura
17:46.08dcordeslol?
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23:30.10gilgameshKaiser looks interesting..any thoughts?

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