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00:11.29ImCoKeMaNundefined mtype for titan cpu registers as generic arm6
00:15.08BabelOImCoKeMaN: is it in haret ?
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00:22.36ImCoKeMaNnot yet i don't think
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00:23.18ImCoKeMaNi could set it with the default.txt to something else though right?
00:24.29BabelOImCoKeMaN: yes
00:26.16ImCoKeMaNwhat i'm trying to do is a little different than usual
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01:06.27BabelOgood night
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01:59.30Marexhi all
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08:34.26sameohi guys...someone here ever managed to make a phone call with gsmd on the Univerrsal ?
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08:53.09scatterp-hi has any one experianced corruption while trying to write to sd cards over 2gbs on any of the htc devices ?
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10:21.58WhackoLaptopcan someone tell me what the progress is for getting linux working on Magician? I checked the wiki on xda-developers,but the progress page was last editted in March :P tho I can see an Angstrom build from June. :)
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11:02.18MarexI updated the hw65xx port ... anyone interested in a patch?
11:16.40__law__has someone a working 2.6.22 or bigger working with sd card support on a omap device?
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12:35.21develneube1__law__: u around ?
12:37.11__law__develneube1, jepp
12:38.22develneube1__law__: BabelO gave me link yest http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/index.html. does the build work on a HTC-Voc (S710) ?
12:39.20__law__develneube1, the latest kernel 2.6.22-rc4 doesnt boot with my tornado, but you can try my images from: http://linuxtogo.org/~law/htctornado/
12:40.45develneube1__law__: plus i saw the Todo page. I am keen on bluettoth, since i am myself working on it. saw this http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/status.html
12:41.01develneube1does typhoon have WiFi ?
12:41.29__law__develneube1, it think typhoon dont have wifi but my tornado has
12:41.49__law__develneube1, bluetooth would be so nice...
12:42.32develneube1i got a list of GPIOs for bluetooth, BabelO send it- http://pastebin.ca/660422. there have to be more if WiFi is present
12:43.21develneube1__law__: there are 4 GPIOs for WiFi co-existance
12:44.17develneube1__law__: have u guys moved to OE? i use scratchbox for devlopment.
12:45.59__law__develneube1, thanks, i always used OE
12:48.17__law__develneube1, i have tried do contact viven many times, but he never replys my mails...
12:49.08develneube1__law__: bt anyways uses linux 8250 serial drivers. i dont know what chip version of brf6150 the tornado use. but it shudnt be difficult
12:49.52develneube1u guys do have the BTS scripts. its just initilaizing the BT chip with the scripts.
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12:53.51__law__develneube1, i also have to write some kernel code or?
12:54.46develneube1__law__: not really
12:55.00develneube1__law__: some tweeks though
12:55.40develneube1__law__: ill try ur images on my Vox. if i can boot it up, i can try to get bt up .
12:56.02__law__develneube1, nice
12:57.23develneube1__law__: is the GSM part done ?
12:57.47__law__develneube1, http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/gsm.html
12:58.00__law__if i can get 2.6.22 working i can try it...
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13:03.06Marexhumm ... anyone interested in that hw65xx patch?
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13:10.27sameosorry to ask again, but does someone here has managed to make phonecalls with gsmd on the Universal ?
13:13.15bd2Marex, sure we're. Is hw65xx in the -hh tree?
13:14.04Marexbd2, yea, but there is nothing much
13:14.19Marexmoreover it's to every part the same as 69xx
13:14.27Marexeven gpios and asic3 ios
13:14.33Marexeverything is the same ...
13:14.58Marex69xx is supported though ... so I removed the 65xx port and put option into 69xx port
13:15.05MarexI will upload the patch ... just a sec
13:15.17bd2ok, it would be great if you'll post it to k-d (which is down for a months), and Cc: kernel-bugs@handhelds.org (we use it now as k-d replacement)
13:15.59Marexok, I should subscribe then, right?
13:16.40Marexwork in progress
13:16.53bd2IIRC, you don't have to. but subscribing is encouraged ;-)
13:17.03Marexbd2, yea, I know
13:17.28MarexI wont get only 80 mails daily :B I will get 100 finally ;)
13:18.01bd2hehe.. no, both kernel-discuss and kernel-bugs are pretty silent lists. at least in summer
13:18.41Marexhmm ... am I the only one who sat at home for whole summer then?
13:24.25bd2;-)
13:25.15bd2btw, do you prefer sitting at work instead? ;-)
13:26.14bd2my guess is that sitting at home is better alternative, of course if you don't bored enough ;-)
13:27.00Marexbd2, Im still a student ;)
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13:33.00bd2Marex, why don't you GSoC'ing then? ;-) or you do?
13:33.57Marexbd2, I dont ... I finished highschool and Im going to uni now ... they told me I cant
13:34.02Marexok, patch sent
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13:53.31BabelOhi
13:53.37BabelOdevelneube1: you around ?
13:54.24develneube1yeah
13:55.20BabelOdevelneube1: once i got serial port on artemis, i will try with hciattach and correct script ;)
13:55.42BabelObut know i ve my board and processor well detected and it broke something else
13:56.21develneube1BabelO: u need a patch to hciattach
13:56.44develneube1http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.bluez.devel/5168
13:57.09BabelOi ve already it for other device ;)
13:57.41BabelOsame patch for high speed
13:58.29develneube1BabelO: sorry i didnt get u. what do u mean by "same patch for high speed"?
13:58.33BabelOdid you try speed at 926900 ? or something like that ?
13:58.40develneube1yeah i did
13:58.51develneube1i have tried it upto 1.5Mbps
14:00.10BabelOdevelneube1: what you mean with " there are 4 GPIOs for WiFi co-existance"
14:02.59develneube1BabelO: ill mail u the datasheet for the bt chip. ull get to know more, whats ur email address ?
14:03.20BabelOfcrohas@gmail.com
14:06.32__law__have someone kernel 2.6.22 or bigger working with omap and mmc (sd) support?
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14:07.16BabelO__law__: i don't know, have some problem booting with usb ;)
14:07.35pH5hi
14:07.44BabelOhi pH5 H
14:07.46BabelO;)
14:07.48__law__BabelO, i heart that you have do connect the usb cable, else the kernel crashes
14:08.09__law__BabelO, Important Note: there is a glitch with the USB gadget driver for now, so you _have_ to boot with the phone plugged to a PC using the USB cable, otherwise the kernel will panic.
14:08.31BabelOoh ? :(
14:09.33__law__BabelO, my tornado also doesnt boot with 2.6.22-rc4
14:10.12bd2Marex, I don't see your patch through handhelds.org maillist archives... :-/ probably it will just delay, but still keep eye on it ;-)
14:10.34Marexcan I send 40kb patch?
14:10.34bd2something wrong with -hh servers these days
14:10.46MarexIs being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
14:10.56MarexI got this ... damn
14:11.03MarexI have to read ;)
14:11.03bd2Marex, um.. probably no. And 40 kb patch is bad idea anyway ;-) could you split it into logical chunks?
14:11.11Marexok
14:12.16bd2stg (stgit, stacked git) is a nice tool to manage your patches, btw ;-)
14:13.29__law__bbl cu
14:13.46Marexbd2, the git in that string is what I dont like ;)
14:14.05Marexisnt there anything like stsvn ? :B
14:14.20Marexbd2, I will try dividing it ... just a sec
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14:25.24deltastarhi room
14:25.47BabelOdevelneube1: thx for your email
14:25.54BabelOhi deltastar
14:26.07deltastarhi,
14:26.29deltastarlooking for blueangel kernel
14:27.08BabelOdeltastar: just kernel ?
14:27.22deltastarand ofcourse gpe image too ;)
14:27.36BabelOdeltastar: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel
14:28.14deltastarthanx, i tried this but could not get usb to work :(
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14:39.54Marexbd2, check now
14:45.58BabelOdeltastar: it seem that usb network is not set automatically on this image
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14:51.13BabelOdeltastar: just missing auto usb0 in /etc/network/interfaces
14:51.34pH5heh, openmoko2 now boots on the magician.
14:51.40pH5the standard icon theme is a bit huge though
14:51.47BabelOpH5: screenshot ;)
14:52.34pH5BabelO: sec.
14:54.25bd2Marex, looks ok. btw, there is type hPaq. I guess should be iPaq?
14:55.17bd2also, are sable and beetles using same cpu? if so, instead of #ifdef, you could do machine_is() or something with run-time checking, and thus you could boot the same kernel on different devices
14:56.06Marexbd2, hpipaq = hpaq :D
14:56.06bd2i.e. IIRC, it's permited to have several MACHINE_START in the mach file
14:56.44Marexyup, they both use pxa272
14:57.34bd2cool. so, it's a bit of additional work (replacing ifdefs with machine_is_()), but I guess it's worth it.
14:58.02Marexok, I will check it
15:12.30pH5BabelO: unmodified 2007.2 on qvga, http://www.flickr.com/photos/ph5
15:13.48BabelOpH5: lokks better now ;), but a little big like you say
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15:25.09_law_BabelO: did you find a solution with your usb problem?
15:26.40BabelO_law_: no i ll lookmy scrren go black few lines after boot :-
15:34.34deltastarBabelO: thanx, will modyfy interfaces and try again
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15:57.08Marexbd2, check spitz.c ... sharp does the ifdefing the same way, I think it is correct the way it is
15:57.19Whackoso what is the status on the magician? what works, and what doesnt?
15:57.32MarexWhacko, check hh.org
15:57.40Whackookay
15:58.41Whackoah sweet... i was looking at the status page on xda-developers
16:03.50Whackobbl
16:08.05pH5Marex: no, it isn't. #ifdef on machine type is evil.
16:09.15MarexpH5, quirks are always evil, but do you know any better way?
16:13.57pH5Marex: I don't know what kind of quirks you are talking about. If possible, configure via platform_data. If not, use machine_is_beetles/sable/etc()
16:16.06MarexpH5, It should be fine if I wont ifdef those MACHINE_STARTs at all, right?
16:16.38pH5Marex: yes
16:16.44Marexthanks, now I got it
16:17.55_law_BabelO: same problem on my device
16:19.57BabelO_law_: yes, it is really strange, it is since cpu is well detected :(
16:20.50_law_BabelO: here is a haret log http://pastebin.com/m585fddc9
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16:23.12khromuhello
16:23.20khromui have an htc hermes
16:23.22BabelO_law_: seem to be ok, you use omapfb driver
16:23.37khromuwhat the status of linux on it?
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16:59.18pH5hi goxboxlive, my latest ångström openmoko-devel-image boots
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17:06.03goxboxlivepH5: ok, i'll try openmoko. Have you made any changes in OE today?
17:06.59pH5yup, some libgsmd and matchbox-keyboard fixup iirc
17:07.55goxboxliveok, could that be it?
17:10.30pH5not sure, the matchbox-keyboard issue was a build fix, and the libgsmd stuff changed a lot upstream since last time.
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17:12.29goxboxliveok
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17:31.38goxboxlivepH5: still the same issue with Openmoko distro. I'll try out a Ångström image
17:33.30goxboxlivehttp://pastebin.no/2510
17:34.59goxboxliveThere is no problem to start X but it happends when it moves further to launch Openmoko
17:35.46pH5:(
17:35.57pH5does it happen in 90xXWindowManager or afterwards?
17:39.39goxboxliveright afterwards
17:42.07BabelOpH5: where did you check out your 2.6.23 git version ?
17:42.23pH5BabelO: linus' tree
17:43.48sameogoxboxlive: did you try enabling ipv6 ?
17:44.14goxboxlivesameo: ?
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17:44.46goxboxlivesameo: I am using the same kernel defconfig as pH5.
17:45.08goxboxliveBut i am using openmoko distro and he is using Ångström
17:45.21sameo_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/magician:0
17:45.39sameogoxboxlive: X on openmoko seems to be opening an IPv6 socket.
17:46.17goxboxlivesameo: ok, pH5 are you using the same defconfig as the one in OE?
17:46.57pH5yes, I get the inet6 message, too. that's just kdrive noticing we don't have ipv6.
17:47.35goxboxliveok
17:48.06goxboxliveI am trying out Angstrom now, but it has been a while since i builded it so it make take some time.
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17:52.42pH5goxboxlive: for the same reason I built openmoko-devel-image in ångström - all my openmoko stuff is neo/armv4t
17:53.22scatterp-hi any one know of a pocket pc development channel that deals with windows stuff ?
17:53.36goxboxliveok
17:53.39scatterp-also does any one here have memory card corruption problems or is it just me ?
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18:07.43whoknowswhatHello
18:08.21whoknowswhatI am looking for some advice on building the Kernel for HTC-Apache
18:09.17whoknowswhatAny advice?
18:09.55whoknowswhatI am having a problem after the cp command finding the zImage
18:10.47whoknowswhatI am on Fedora 7... Anybody?
18:12.23whoknowswhatHelp is much appreciated.
18:13.38pH5whoknowswhat: after successful compilation, the kernel image is in arch/arm/boot of the linux tree
18:14.10whoknowswhatI understand, but what went wrong if it is not there?
18:15.35pH5I don't know
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18:17.39scatterp-can some one tell me the file that has the driver that sends commands to the sd card (standard host controller) ?
18:18.20BabelOscatterp-: in kernel source tree ?
18:18.28pH5scatterp-: this channel is called #htc-_linux_ for a reason
18:18.31whoknowswhatpH5: I downloaded from cvs and did a cp in linux/kernel26 for htcapache_defconfig in the linux/kernel26/arch/arm/configs
18:18.58scatterp-sorry pH5 but its a linux question this time im asking for the linux file
18:19.03scatterp-BabelO yeah ...
18:19.18BabelOscatterp-: drviers/mmc
18:19.27scatterp-thanks
18:19.40pH5scatterp-: heh, never assume. sorry :)
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18:21.06whoknowswhatpH5: the .config is saved but I am unable to find the zImage in the boot dir
18:21.22sameowhoknowswhat: did you do a make oldconfig ?
18:21.36whoknowswhatNope
18:21.58whoknowswhatdo I just type that in then (I am a noob)
18:22.10pH5aah, you have to actually start the compilation then.
18:22.19whoknowswhatok
18:22.39sameowhoknowswhat: make oldconfig, then make zImage
18:22.39pH5make zImage, if your cross compiler is set up correctly. do you have a cross-compilation toolchain already?
18:23.19whoknowswhatI am in fedora 7, what do I need, I may have it already
18:27.13whoknowswhatarm-linux-gcc error
18:28.30whoknowswhatpH5:arm-linux-gcc command not found
18:28.44whoknowswhatDo I yum install that then?
18:29.14pH5hm.. does anybody here know of an easy way to install an arm cross-compiler on fedora?
18:29.47pH5I always build my cross-compilation toolchains with (or rather let them be built by) OpenEmbedded.
18:30.19BabelOyes, using the one from codesourcery.com
18:30.49whoknowswhatbabel0: Do they have a yum repo?
18:31.25BabelOno, you have to download a tar.gz file and unpack it by hand
18:31.58whoknowswhatI see
18:32.13BabelOit is the quick way
18:32.41whoknowswhatOk
18:32.53whoknowswhatI download the lite ARM then?
18:33.53BabelOhttp://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/download.html
18:34.28BabelOselect the arm gnu/linux and IA32 GNU/Linux
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18:35.37whoknowswhatok
18:35.44whoknowswhatdownloading
18:36.56whoknowswhatWhen I complete the download where do I move the package to unpack it
18:36.57BabelOthen create a directory somewhere, unpack it in this directory after you have to export PATH=$PATH:<whereis yourdirecotry/bin
18:37.15whoknowswhatok
18:37.49goxboxlivewhoknowswhat: it's all explained in hh.org wiki pages. I'll give you thelink
18:38.05BabelOand then go back to your linux source tre and do a make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-
18:38.09BabelOit should work then
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18:39.10whoknowswhatok, after I do the make cross_compile  do I still do a make zImage?
18:39.12goxboxlivewhoknowswhat: here is the howto, this exaplme is for HTC universal, but  it 's the same for other devices. Just change the machine name defconifig: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel
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18:40.07whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: Thanks, but I have been there, and instructions for HTC-apache is a bit unclear
18:40.19whoknowswhatHence I am here :)
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18:41.00goxboxlivewhoknowswhat: as i said it's similar for all the devices, just chaneg the machine defconfig
18:41.22whoknowswhatOk my download is complete, I will unpack the toolchain real quick
18:44.28goxboxlivepH5: are you far from having a working bootloader on magician now?
18:45.21whoknowswhatwhat is the tar command used to unpack (needing a good cheat sheet badly)
18:45.39whoknowswhat-?
18:45.44whoknowswhattar -?
18:46.12BabelOwhoknowswhat: extension of the file downloaded ?
18:46.32whoknowswhattar.bz2
18:46.45BabelOtar xvjf <your file>
18:46.57whoknowswhatThanks
18:46.57goxboxlivewhoknowswhat: it's all explained in the HOWTO, why dont you follow it?
18:47.53goxboxliveBabelO: Have you received your gp yet?
18:48.01whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: Please view the how-to on HTC-Apache, the method is different than the usual method
18:48.15BabelOgoxboxlive: no, nothing
18:49.24whoknowswhatBabel0:Thanks, that got it unpacking
18:49.43goxboxlivewhoknowswhat: It's the same, just a short one of the universal one.
18:50.20whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: I don't have all the tools needed to install yet, I am a noob :)
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18:50.34whoknowswhatnot install, compile
18:51.01goxboxlivewhoknowswhat: forget it
18:52.27whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: No problem, I have just been getting nowhere on that how to for a day now, I am getting somewhere here :)
18:53.42whoknowswhatBabel0: It is still unpacking
18:54.00BabelOwhoknowswhat: you have a very slow machine
18:54.06whoknowswhat:)
18:54.19BabelObut a very high speed internet connection
18:54.20goxboxlivewhoknowswhat: listen, i am not guiding you to the apache howto. I am telling you to take a look at the HTC Universal wiki howto. Because i have made it so a newbie is able to setup and compile a linux kernel.
18:54.27pH5goxboxlive: quite far
18:54.27whoknowswhatThis only has a 333 Mhz P2 on it
18:54.56whoknowswhat300 Mhz srry
18:55.20goxboxlivepH5: what do you mean?
18:55.23pH5I haven't decided yet whether I should try and write a really small shim between kernel and htc bootloader, or if it'd be better to try and port something like bootldr or u-boot.
18:55.37whoknowswhatI have much faster, but this computer is convenient to access
18:55.39pH5so I didn't really start
18:56.22goxboxliveok
18:56.22pH5goxboxlive: you desperately want to flush wince from that device?
18:56.25whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: Sorry for the misunderstanding
18:57.20goxboxlivepH5: yes i am tired of the welcome and calibration stuff in wince everytime i reboot (and i do that often :-) )
18:57.23goxboxlivewhoknowswhat: :-)
18:58.08pH5goxboxlive: interested in my boot-via-usb stuff until I get around to write a flashable bootloader?
18:58.37goxboxlivepH5: yes of course. Is it the same as how A780 boots the kernel?
18:59.58whoknowswhatLol, my system is still unpacking the toolchain
19:01.10pH5not sure, what they have for a780 looks like quite a lot of software
19:01.51goxboxlivepH5: i meant the openezx version. I have to boot it using usb connection
19:02.39pH5goxboxlive: maybe it's similar. I upload the kernel to ram and then nudge the running htc bootloader to jump into it.
19:02.59whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: I was looking in the wrong part of the universal how to when I looked at it. It does have all the info I am looking for, but I will be sticking around here until I get it done just in case I get confused like the noob I am.
19:03.14goxboxlivepH5: ok, mail it to me, i would like to test it.
19:03.34goxboxlivewhoknowswhat: :-)
19:04.18goxboxliveBabelO: i have a initramfs image. Do you want to test it?
19:04.46BabelOgoxboxlive: yes i want ;) how do you build it ( command line )
19:05.13goxboxliveBabelO: bitbake initramfs-image
19:05.32BabelOgoxboxlive: so i can do it me too
19:05.34BabelO;)
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19:07.58goxboxliveBabelO: :-) Ok,. let me know if you are able to boot it.
19:09.41pH5goxboxlive: the reason I didn't put it up somewhere is that I never got around to cleaning it up, it just works well enough for me :/
19:09.44pH5http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/passgen.tar.bz2
19:12.33goxboxlivethx
19:14.32pH5np, if it doesn't suit your needs, improve ;)
19:16.26goxboxlivepH5: what to do with the buildtag and passgen? How do i use this?
19:17.07pH51) edit buildtag.c to change kernel cmdline to what you like, I agree this is .. suboptimal
19:17.11pH52) make
19:17.25pH53) boot magician in htc bootloader mode and connect via usb
19:17.44whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: Ok, I set the paths for the arm toolchain htcapache_defconfig compiles, but when I do CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-eabi- I get arm-none-eabi- command not found
19:17.44pH54) run passgen, it will upload blob.raw, tags.raw and zImage and then boot the kernel
19:18.43pH5blob is like haret's 'trampoline' code, used to jump into the kernel and tags.raw contains the ATAGs structures used to configure linux-arm kernels.
19:19.51BabelOwhoknowswhat: comand is :"make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-"
19:21.21whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: If you have the time could you note that to the How-To for other confused people like myself?  :)
19:21.44whoknowswhatBabel0: Thanx
19:21.55goxboxlive:-)
19:22.23whoknowswhathmm
19:22.42goxboxliveI'll update the howto
19:22.49BabelOgoxboxlive: bitbake say ERROR: No providers of build target initramfs-image
19:22.58whoknowswhatHold on, that didn't work either
19:23.56BabelOwhoknowswhat: when you type arm- and you press key tab twice, do you see lot of arm-none-linux* ?
19:23.58goxboxliveBabelO: hmmm strange, mine is builded. I have uploaded it to: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/initramfs/
19:24.11BabelOthanks
19:24.17BabelOmaybe my locl.conf file :(
19:24.51BabelOgoxboxlive: now you win 40$ ;) http://www.wisebread.com/the-40-hidden-inside-a-12v-battery
19:25.35whoknowswhatNope, I must have noted the path wrong
19:26.16BabelOwhoknowswhat: yes i think, go to the root directory where you unpack arm compiler
19:26.40BabelOand copy / paste this      export PATH=$PATH:`pwd`/bin
19:26.55BabelOyou need to do all of this in same konsole
19:27.47goxboxliveBabelO: funny
19:27.58whoknowswhatOk, I unpacked it in /usr/armtool is that bad?
19:28.57BabelOno it is ok
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19:30.30whoknowswhatOk, I am in the arm-2007q1 dir, now I copy/paste that command?
19:30.41BabelOyes
19:31.08whoknowswhatOk, now I check it with the arm- tab tab
19:31.13BabelOyes
19:31.23whoknowswhatsweet
19:31.29whoknowswhatGot it this time
19:31.47BabelOkeep the same console and go to your linux/kernel26 directory
19:32.05whoknowswhatOk, on the way there
19:32.27whoknowswhatnow I do the make commands again?
19:32.47BabelOmake CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-
19:33.03goxboxlivepH5: That was a cool tool :-)
19:33.37okiasor: arm-iwmmxt-linux-gnueabi- ;-)
19:33.43whoknowswhatBabel0: Ok, it is going!
19:34.01BabelOgood
19:34.40whoknowswhatBabelO: I got an error, shall I post it?
19:35.10BabelOif it is multiple line use this instead http://pastebin.ca
19:35.29whoknowswhatok, one moment
19:36.29pH5goxboxlive: thanks :) though for some reason a) resume doesn't work when I boot the kernel this way and b) avahi hangs when I use libnss-mdns to look up a ip address
19:36.41goxboxliveok
19:37.24whoknowswhatBabelO:http://pastebin.ca/666002
19:38.28okiasis any  difference between arm-iwmmxt-linux-gnueabi- and arm-none-linux-gnueabi-?
19:40.31whoknowswhatBabelO: that pastebin is a great tool, thnx for showing it to me
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19:41.41whoknowswhatBabelO: did you get the error snippet?
19:41.58BabelOyes
19:42.30whoknowswhatBabelO: Any Ideas?
19:43.02BabelOwhoknowswhat: after you copy / paste htcapache_deconfig to arch/arm/configs, do you start a make htcpache_defconfig command ?
19:44.18whoknowswhathtcapache_defconfig was already there
19:44.32whoknowswhatand yes
19:44.39BabelOyes but you need to do make htcapache_defconfig before
19:45.10BabelOcan you do it again ?
19:45.19BabelOand retry make CROS_COMPILE.......
19:45.44whoknowswhatok, one sec
19:46.15deltastarI try to compile kernel for ba too an get this error:
19:46.18deltastarWARNING: "soc_pcmcia_request_irqs" [arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel_pcmcia.ko] undefined!
19:46.47deltastaron debian etch with instructions from http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelKernel
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19:47.54BabelOdeltastar: do you use static defconfig ?
19:48.21deltastarno, htcblueangel_defconfig
19:48.24BabelOdeltastar: this one htcblueangel_static_defconfig
19:48.42whoknowswhatBabelO: I got the same error
19:48.59BabelOdeltastar: can you try with static, it is automatically build
19:49.16deltastaryes I can
19:49.21deltastarwill do it
19:49.25goxboxlivepH5: strange, i have the same issue with Ånsgtröm. X starts but Openmoko gui failes loading
19:49.59goxboxliveit actually failes here: : /usr/bin/cpp: not found** (neod:1468): DEBUG: '/dev/input/event0' open OK, fd = '6'
19:50.16BabelOwhoknowswhat: so i don't know :(
19:50.27whoknowswhatHmm
19:50.32pH5goxboxlive: that means either your build env is messed up in a bad way or mine is messed up in a good way =/
19:50.52pH5cpp? ugh..
19:51.46goxboxlivepH5: i guess the the first option :-) . But it's strange that it is working with Universal. I'll check my keybordless-button patch. Maybe it is that one causing it
19:51.58whoknowswhatBabel: No idea where the error is from?
19:52.19_law_BabelO: so it isnt the same problem like yours?
19:52.30whoknowswhatDid I mess up something somewhere?
19:53.14whoknowswhatCould it be a Fedora issue?
19:53.17BabelOwhoknowswhat: if you have .config, i don't understand
19:53.36whoknowswhatwhere will .config be located if I have it
19:53.54BabelO_law_: i ll look forward , i checkout a fresh tree and patching it to try ;)
19:54.00deltastarin kernel tree
19:54.13deltastarits hidden .config
19:54.25_law_BabelO: what kernel to you use?
19:54.57whoknowswhatso how can I verify I have .config if it is hidden
19:55.12BabelO_law_: kernel at handhelds.org with muru omap1 patch
19:55.12deltastarcat .config
19:55.49_law_BabelO: ok
19:57.02whoknowswhatHmm
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19:57.11deltastarwbk
19:57.28whoknowswhatI got a readout from cat .config
19:58.26deltastarBabelO: with static compiles fine
19:58.36BabelOdeltastar: good ;)
19:58.44okiasGood night :-)
19:59.00BabelOgood night okias
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19:59.46whoknowswhatdeltastar: http://pastebin.ca/666029 under cat readout:
19:59.54deltastarBabelo0: this fresh kernel i use with haret, which imag should I use for rootfs>
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20:04.26BabelOdeltastar: you can use x11 image  if you install module in
20:05.48deltastarBabel0: where to find modules and how to install them please?
20:08.17BabelOdeltastar: this image http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/x11-GPE/
20:08.34BabelOto instal, unpack the image somewhere ex: /myimage
20:09.08BabelOand then in your root kernel tree do export INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/myimage
20:09.16BabelOand finish with make modules_install
20:09.24whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: I tried the information in the universal how-to again since I have my paths correct, and did not get an error. Looking for zImage
20:09.41deltastarBabel0: thanks, will try it now
20:11.56whoknowswhatgoxboxlive: I did not receive any error, but am unable to find zImage
20:13.48ketroxlook  in /arch/arm/boot
20:14.09whoknowswhatketrox: it is not there
20:14.49ketroxis there Image ?
20:15.05ketroxwithout z ?
20:16.37whoknowswhatketrox: Nope
20:16.58ketroxdunno then...try to run make one again
20:17.49deltastarthere should be Image and zImage think
20:18.09ketroxyes if you were buildin for arm
20:18.20whoknowswhatStrange!
20:18.21ketroxthey should be in /arch/arm/boot
20:19.44whoknowswhatBabelO: I got the cross compile to work
20:20.02whoknowswhatIt is still going
20:20.33BabelOwhoknowswhat: maybe it take a long long time on your P2 330Mhz, maybe 1hour
20:20.52BabelOi not remember well
20:21.10whoknowswhatI used the arm string you suggested, so the one in the how-to may need an update afterall
20:22.14whoknowswhatBabelO: Well, I did a no no to get it to work, I did it as SU
20:22.34whoknowswhatAnd I hear it is a bad idea to deal with the kernel as SU
20:22.51whoknowswhatbut it made the cross compile work
20:28.27whoknowswhatBabelO, I think the error I received was because I unpacked the file in a location that required root access. I am guessing I needed to sign in as root to access the tool-chain
20:30.14BabelOwhoknowswhat: probably it is that
20:30.59deltastarwill continue tomorrow. good night room and mni tks for help
20:33.41dcordesgoxboxlive: what packages are required in angstrom to get openmoko gui?
20:38.10whoknowswhatBabelO: Who knew file location could be such a pain lol
20:38.48whoknowswhatstill doing the cross compile
20:38.48pH5dcordes: the gui are just gtk apps, so you can install openmoko-dialer2, openmoko-today2, etc. one by one
20:39.48pH5or task-openmoko-ui
20:40.30whoknowswhatBabelO: Any resources on how to port programs to run on this version of linux, or is porting not required.
20:41.51dcordespH5: so it does not replace gpe?
20:42.52BabelOwhoknowswhat: when you recompile something don't forget to use arm-* instead of standard fedora build system most of the nedd you have to use ./configure --host=arm-none-linux-gnueabi
20:43.29pH5dcordes: well, if you replace the matchbox session file with openmoko's matchbox session, the OM gui will be started instead of GPE
20:43.57dcordespH5: where is that defined?
20:43.58whoknowswhatBabelO: Ok, how would I distribute it pre-compiled for easy installation?
20:44.08dcordes(which one starts automatically)
20:44.24ketroxBabelO it isn't needed if he does the PATH=......
20:44.53BabelOwhoknowswhat: you can take a look here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org
20:45.02whoknowswhatBabelO: I ask because I have an open source project in planning, and if I can get this to work I would like to distribute a ready to install package.
20:45.17BabelOketrox: yes it is needed else target is the build system
20:45.27pH5dcordes: the file is /etc/matchbox/session iirc, package openmoko-session2
20:45.33whoknowswhatSo I can put the porting of the software version into the scope of the project
20:47.09BabelOpH5: is this tell you something ?
20:47.11BabelO<PROTECTED>
20:47.11BabelOarm-none-linux-gnueabi-ld: no machine record defined
20:48.02dcordespH5: ipkg does not want to install task-openmoko-ui because gsmd is missing
20:49.15BabelOdcordes: instal gsmd ipkg, there is a search or find command line argument
20:50.52dcordeslol can I use my zaurus as phone now if I will get a gsm device?
20:52.41pH5BabelO: yes, that means there is no MACHINE_START ... MACHINE_END block compiled in
20:53.06pH5look at include/asm/mach/arch.h and arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds to understand
20:53.20dcordesI still can't install task-openmoko-ui after gsmd0 and libgsmd0 are installed. ipkg is looking for libgsmd0 (>= 0.1+svnr2713) openmoko-sound-theme-standard neod
20:54.00pH5gsmd0?
20:54.56dcordespH5: that is what ipkg is saying
20:54.56pH5but yes, with a supported gsm chipset (with audio headset connection) it should be possible to make calls.
20:55.26dcordespH5: that would be pretty funny. Where can I get a list of chipsets supported by gsmd?
20:55.37dcordes(gsmd in OE)
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20:58.16pH5dcordes: here: ti calypso, qualcomm msm6250, broadcom bcm2132
20:58.52pH5though they are all based on gsm 07.07/07.10 etc. standards and only have minor differences, and adding other modems should be very easy.
20:59.13BabelOpH5: ok i ll look, but really strange
20:59.33BabelO:q
21:00.43BabelOah ah i forgot to change the Makefile !
21:01.02dcordespH5: ok thanks :) what about gsmd0? is that a broken dependency in apt?
21:01.12dcordess/apt/ipk
21:01.27BabelOpH5 thanks ;) is start from a fresh kernel with only my change
21:01.58pH5BabelO: very good :)
21:02.23pH5dcordes: something went wrong with the debian-style package renaming, I guess. usually numbers should only be added to library packages
21:03.46dcordespH5: any way for me to work around that problem/should I make it an OE bug?
21:05.18pH5dcordes: try to update and rebuild libgsmd first
21:05.47pH5here everything works alright, my gsmd package is just gsmd, not gsmd0
21:06.31dcordesok updating and upgrading
21:09.55dcordespH5: that didn't change the situation. ipkg is still looking for libgsmd0 (>= 0.1+svnr2713) openmoko-sound-theme-standard neod
21:10.53pH5ah, that is ok libgsmd0 is supposed to be just that. so you're not building yourself and there's no libgsmd0, openmoko-sound-theme-standard or neod in the feeds?
21:13.36dcordespH5: no they aren't
21:15.57dcordespH5: unfortunately I have no OE setup on my build machine :/
21:17.55pH5dcordes: you could try to grab openmoko-ui and dependencies from the openmoko feeds
21:18.35pH5I'll rebuild gsmd/libgsmd0 and upload to the angstrom feeds. not sure if the OM sound theme should be uploaded there.
21:20.26dcordesOk thanks mate
21:20.30dcordesI'll try
21:22.34pH5or no I won't, the (lib)gsmd I build are all PACKAGE_ARCH="magician", I have to fix that before uploading
21:23.54dcordespH5: do you have (lib)gsmd packages for magician in angstrom / OE yet?
21:25.40pH5dcordes: sure, but except for gsmd they are not magician specific (and gsmd is only because of one configuration file)
21:26.24pH5I'll get back to that tomorrow.
21:26.27pH5good night
21:42.13develneube1BabelO: hi
21:44.17BabelOhi develneube1
21:44.36develneube1BabelO: this channel is pretty busy !!!
21:44.51BabelOthese days , yes ;)
21:45.38develneube1BabelO: i want to try the new 2.6.22 on my Vox.
21:45.50develneube1BabelO: what tree shud it pull the kernel ?
21:46.22BabelOdevelneube1: you  want a working kernel or a devel ? ;)
21:47.54develneube1BabelO: right now the working one.
21:48.07BabelOif it is a working then try http://omap850.om.funpic.de/downloads/wizard/readme
21:48.09develneube1BabelO: then strat tweeking that bt chip
21:48.11BabelOyou need hg
21:48.50BabelOit is section 2.2
21:49.00BabelOhg clone http://linwizard.maui.at/linux-wizard
21:49.11BabelOthis one works for me
21:50.09develneube1ok
21:50.12develneube1thanks
21:53.42develneube1BabelO: any plans to get openmoko GUI on htc ?
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22:00.08BabelOyes, my plans is to wait goxboxlibe and pH5 have it working on htc magician, actually it works, but need some tweaks
22:05.17develneube1ok
22:13.14dcordesI setup my OE enviornment for build with magician. Now when I built an image, how can I boot it with haret?
22:13.20dcordesare there any instructions on that?
22:20.59develneube1http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
22:21.08develneube1oops!!
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22:22.27dcordesBabelO: would I do that the same way as descriped in http://omap850.om.funpic.de/downloads/wizard/readme ?
22:22.55whoknowswhatBabelO: I got zImage now!
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23:08.35whoknowswhatBabelO: when I run haret, how long is the wait suppose to be?
23:09.48whoknowswhatanyone?
23:10.02BabelOshort
23:10.18whoknowswhatwhat is wrong if it stays there?
23:11.03whoknowswhatthe screen goes black, and a bunch of small print, then stays there
23:11.14BabelOyou setup your default.txt file with haret ?
23:11.24whoknowswhatyes
23:11.50whoknowswhatset KERNEL zImage
23:11.50whoknowswhatset CMDLINE "rootdelay=1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 fbcon=rotate:1"
23:11.50whoknowswhatboot
23:12.26BabelOthat is ok, you see something on your screen ?
23:12.47whoknowswhatjumping to kernel26
23:12.54whoknowswhatand it stays there
23:13.16BabelOhum interesting
23:14.54whoknowswhatI used gparted to make my partitions, could that be the problem?
23:16.12BabelOno i think you see some kernel trace on the screen before
23:16.55whoknowswhatwell should that take a long time?
23:17.19whoknowswhator is that bad?
23:19.52BabelOit is bad
23:19.57BabelOsomething is missing
23:21.37whoknowswhathow should the base directory be in the linux partition?
23:22.39BabelOwhoknowswhat: i think error is before that
23:23.17BabelOmaybe if Kevin2 is here he can answer, sorry :(
23:23.29whoknowswhatBabelO: Ok, How do I address it?
23:23.36whoknowswhatI see
23:24.04whoknowswhatKevin2: Any input?
23:35.07whoknowswhatBabelO: The message I get is HaRET boot
23:35.19whoknowswhatshutting down hardware
23:35.39whoknowswhatturning off MMU...
23:35.52whoknowswhatIn preloader
23:36.00whoknowswhattags relocated
23:36.13whoknowswhatkernel relocated
23:36.25whoknowswhatinitrd relocated
23:36.51whoknowswhatPSR=600000df
23:37.10whoknowswhatJumping to kernel
23:37.54whoknowswhatis that the kernel trace?
23:38.09BabelOwhoknowswhat: yes should be ok, but after that screen goes black and display usuall kernel message
23:38.40whoknowswhatso it should not stick there?
23:42.17Kevin2whoknowswhat: What kernel version did you use?
23:42.36whoknowswhatthe one from the how to and the cvs
23:43.00whoknowswhatHTCApache
23:43.50Kevin2Hrmm.  You copied the .config from arch/arm/configs/htcapache_defconfig?
23:44.15whoknowswhatwhere was I to paste it?
23:44.28whoknowswhatbut that is the config I used
23:44.32Kevin2How did you setup your kernel config?
23:45.07whoknowswhatI set it up with the how to and the help of BabelO
23:45.15whoknowswhatand a few others :)
23:46.15whoknowswhatI didn't do any extre configuring to the file used to config the kernel
23:46.23whoknowswhatextra
23:46.28*** part/#htc-linux raven` (n=raven@unaffiliated/raven/x-000001)
23:46.47Kevin2Hrmm.  Looks like the handhelds.org cvs may have regressed then.
23:47.09whoknowswhatPlease explain
23:47.36Kevin2A lot of developers check into that CVS location.  Someone may have checked in something that broke the apace code.
23:47.45Kevin2Can you try the zImage at: http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/HTCApache/testimages/zImage
23:47.57whoknowswhatone moment
23:50.18Kevin2Hrmm.  That image is a bit old - I'll upload a new one.
23:50.31whoknowswhatok
23:50.50whoknowswhatjust let me know when and where
23:51.59Kevin2http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/HTCApache/testimages/zImage-20070821
23:52.29whoknowswhatok
23:52.33whoknowswhatone moment
23:54.03whoknowswhatok, now I just load that up?
23:56.31Kevin2Copy it onto your ramdisk as zImage, and rerun the haret kernel boot.
23:57.56whoknowswhatok
23:58.22whoknowswhatit is sitting at Jumping to kernel again
23:58.50whoknowswhatwhat should the base file be in the linux partition

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