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00:48.00Babelok, i ve to learn oh to do an initramfs ;)
00:48.58Babelgood night all
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13:05.56*** topic/#htc-linux is HTC Linux Channel: Find logs at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ | please check http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | <cr2> let's define a common setup.
13:06.00develneube1BabelO: does the BRF6150 connected to a codec in ur BA ?
13:06.43BabelOit is connected directly to the pxa263 processor
13:06.53BabelOa UART
13:09.33BabelOdevelneube1: ail sent
13:09.43develneube1BabelO: so u have sco over HCI ?
13:09.49develneube1BabelO: THANKS a ton
13:09.50BabelOdevelneube1: yes
13:10.13BabelOdevelneube1: how do you look at CODEC settings with bts script file ?
13:11.37develneube1there are CODEC specific commands in the script. but this is only there if u have sco over pcm and not sco over hci
13:12.03BabelOok
13:12.16develneube1BabelO: does a2dp work fine on the BA ?
13:12.56BabelOdevelneube1: i just try it , with computer to emulate headset and it works well
13:15.17develneube1BabelO: ok.
13:15.36develneube1BabelO: got the settings in 3.4.27!! thanks
13:16.20BabelOdevelneube1: good ;) so i know something new about htc artemis then
13:18.16develneube1BabelO: actually i am working on a OMAP850 dev board which is the same platfor as some HTC phones. Line the HTC S710
13:18.34develneube1BabelO: i got a S710 too :)
13:18.54BabelOdevelneube1: ok, i can boot it since yesturday with hh kernel
13:19.48BabelOdevelneube1: do you have a bts script decoder ? ;)
13:20.22BabelOand do you know how brf6150 is connected to omap850 ?
13:36.35__law__develneube1, do you know http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/index.html
13:37.08__law__develneube1, and here is my current work: http://linuxtogo.org/~law/htctornado/
13:38.29BabelO__law__: so phone is working for you ?
13:39.08__law__BabelO, i have got a htc tornado and it boots linux incl. gpephone
13:39.52BabelOok
13:40.18BabelO__law__: how do you compile your kernel ?
13:40.57__law__BabelO, with OE, 2.6.16 works fine but i have problems with 2.6.22-rc4 from viven..
13:42.05develneube1__law__: this is great!! ill put linux on my HTC right away
13:42.57__law__i have written some gtk patches and build gtk 2.11.6 for this device. now t9 like input also works...
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13:44.34develneube1__law__: nice. I have a OMAP 850 board too.
13:44.53develneube1__law__: this is the basic dev board for the HTC phones
13:45.30__law__develneube1, nice, what devices works for you? does audio work or? bluetooth?
13:48.37develneube1__law__: audio works fine. I am trying to get BT up now. basic BT works (scanning devices and all) A2dp is rt now bad, takes a lot of cpu. SCO is yet to be up.
13:50.00__law__develneube1, is it the same audio chip like the htc phones use? what kernel driver to you use for audio? could you setup a little bt howto :-)
13:51.29develneube1__law__: well the audio chip is same, AFAIK. ill make a BT howto once i get codec setting working. that will be really helpful.:)
13:51.58develneube1__law__: its a lot of trial and error right now.
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13:53.53__law__develneube1, ok what kernel driver do you use for audio?
13:55.35develneube1__law__: for the 850 we have developed a driver on our own, it might be proprietary. actually we have a audio team which did the driver development. I am not a part of it
13:55.50develneube1i look at BT
13:56.37__law__develneube1, ok so i have to look at the audio stuff myself :-( if its poprietary :-(
13:57.12BabelO__law__: i thinkwe have same audio chip
13:57.58__law__BabelO, is there a free audio driver?
13:57.58BabelO__law__: i see that vivien want to use mcsbsp for audio, we have already it in kernel
13:58.12develneube1__law__: ill keep u updated. if we are going to release the code.
13:58.34__law__ok thanks, i have to leave now.... bbl
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13:59.12develneube1BabelO: what is remaining for the distro ?
14:00.24BabelOdevelneube1: lot of thing ;) at the moment, i ll just finished to report code from mvista kernel and muru git to ahndhelds.org kernel, now i ll look for chips information with haret
14:01.16BabelOso sound is missing, bluetooth, wifi, i hope GPS is just a serial port ;)
14:01.20develneube1BabelO: i can sure help with BT. i ahave been working on this chip for sometime now.
14:02.07BabelOdevelneube1: ok, but i don't know where to look in memory map for this chip, is it connected to an omap850 serial port ? if yes what is adress of this serail
14:02.29BabelOoh also touchscreen is missing ;)
14:02.36develneube1BabelO: So its mainly targetting what phone? Typhoon?Hurricane?Tornado? do all have the same h/w ?
14:02.54develneube1yeah BT is connected over UART
14:03.27BabelOdevelneube1: all this phone have omap850 and i work on artemis based on code from tornado/typhoon
14:03.39develneube1u have got the omap patch from muru?
14:04.25BabelOdevelneube1: no ;) just done some change to the handhelds.org kernel, it have already some patch, maybe i need muru patch for uart ;)
14:05.05develneube1BabelO: no need to worry about the serial address. The arch/arm/mach-omap1/serial.c sets everything . Linux then identifies it as a ST16654 chip. All u need to do  is get that BT chip out of reset
14:05.23develneube1u can do this in the bootloader/linux
14:05.32BabelOdevelneube1: ok, i ve already the gpio sequence to do that ;)
14:06.04develneube1on reset the BT chip is reset . we have to get it out of reset
14:06.38BabelOdevelneube1: for me  i have these gpio assigned http://pastebin.ca/660422
14:08.36develneube1BabelO:  do u have scematics ?
14:08.50BabelOdevelneube1: no :(
14:09.08develneube1BabelO: the GPIO are fine i guess.
14:09.23BabelOi use a reverse engineering software ;) haret
14:09.33develneube1BabelO: i assume u dont have the h/w docs either?
14:09.39BabelOno :(
14:09.45BabelOi have nothing
14:10.46develneube1BabelO: this sounds fun !! :) i have to go for a meeting now, will get back to u regarding this.
14:11.00BabelOdevelneube1: ok thanks
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14:34.19BabelOovod: hi*
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14:49.45BabelO_law_: there are a lot of thing in muru patch
15:13.44develneube1_law_: , BabelO: do u guys have a mailing list?
15:14.34BabelOwe have a mailing list at handhelds.org,  depend for what ;)
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16:26.19develneube1BabelO: that setting worked but i am still not getting clock out of my BRF6150. damn!! i guess i need some other setting. need the specific TIInit_3.3.48.bts, i guess .
16:26.58BabelOdevelneube1: ok
16:31.46BabelOdevelneube1: serial.c for omap is automatically used or do i need to set something else ?
16:31.57BabelOi ll look at it
16:37.06BabelOhi pH5
16:37.19BabelOpH5: it seem artemis have a brf6150 too
16:41.54develneube1BabelO: what FW version ?
16:42.16BabelOdevelneube1: 2.23
16:42.40develneube1BabelO: ok. thats not what i was looking for. thanks.
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16:54.54pH5BabelO: can you update the http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HandheldHardwareXref accordingly?
16:57.03BabelOpH5 : let me look for my password ;)
16:57.45pH5:)
17:03.48pH5"Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel"
17:03.51pH5that didn't go so well
17:04.35BabelOpH5: it is openmoko v2 ? ;) the one ready for qvga ?
17:05.09pH5I hoped so. seems it wasn't such a good idea to build openmoko-devel-image with DISTRO="angstrom"
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17:06.19pH5damn, I need a dedicated buildhost.
17:08.34BabelOpH5: have a problem with this funciton return null : clk_get(NULL, "bclk")
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17:47.48BabelOok, i find the bug ;)
17:48.38BabelObut not my password :(
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18:22.10_law_pH5: do you know if openmoko is faster then gpephone?
18:23.03pH5_law_: probably not, but I don't have done a direct comparison
18:23.26pH5openmoko runs only on the slow neo, and I haven't tested openmoko on the magician yet.
18:23.58_law_ok becaue gpephone feels a little bit slow on my htc tornado
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18:25.28pH5_law_: I will borrow an omap850 device for a while soon, so I'll hopefully get a feeling for that as soon as the kernel is up and running.
18:25.58_law_ok i currently try to get kernel 2.6.22 running...
18:27.04pH5_law_: what codebase are you working on? BabelO started to import the wizard stuff into hh.org for his artemis.
18:27.22pH5the linux-omap git repository is mainly for omap2, as I understand (n800, etc.)
18:28.04_law_pH5: i use vivens git repo http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/download.html
18:28.51_law_but i seams he wont talk to me :-( dont reply me mails :-(
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18:30.13_law_but perhaps i should also try to add the tornado to the hh.org kernel....
18:31.33pH5_law_: that's unfortunate. I think at syncing to hh.org is a good idea for standardization across architectures.
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18:31.49pH5and also I'd profit from that as I've got that hh.org checkout anyway ;)
18:32.01_law_:-)
18:34.15pH5currently there's nicolas' tornado-or-was-it-typhoon kernel, vivien's stuff, there is linwizard, from time to time prophet people pop up, Babel0 started the artemis, and herald will come soon, too.
18:34.28pH5I guess having them all together is a good idea.
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18:36.23_law_pH5: you are right it would be a very good idea, i?ll take a look at the current hh.org kernel, and try to include tornado stuff....
18:37.31_law_pH5: is BabelO?s stuff already in?
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18:38.49pH5I think not yet. You should definitely coordinate with him, not to end up doing the same work twice.
18:39.33_law_pH5: right
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18:52.08BabelOback ;) today it was not Ronald food, so it take too many time ;)
18:53.08BabelOpH5: artemis seem to have no vbus sense like other omap850 device :(
18:53.43pH5BabelO: none at all or just on another pin?
18:53.46BabelO_law_: yes you can add tornado too ;)
18:54.11BabelOpH5: none at all
18:54.19pH5BabelO: did you achieve anything with the processor type / cpuid hack?
18:54.24pH5:/
18:54.53_law_BabelO: did you already commit something to hh.org?
18:55.26BabelOpH5: i don't understand all this assembler stuff :( i m trying to have usb up because there is an interesting option to show devices dump from bootloader
18:55.38BabelO_law_: no, i have no comit right
18:56.02BabelObut i can send you my patch for hh when i have usb  working
18:57.07BabelOit is good like that, when psolovsky come back from holliday he can look at the patch ;)
18:57.30_law_BabelO: ok would be nice
18:59.38BabelO_law_: you say 2.6.22 not compiling for you ?
19:00.06_law_BabelO: compiles fine but dont startup with haret on my tornado...
19:00.51BabelOit fails on startup?
19:00.53pH5_law_: how? I tried 2.6.23-rc3 on pxa, and it just wouldn't recognize the sd card.
19:01.03pH5had no time to bisect in any meaningful way, though.
19:01.09BabelOthere is a clock change in this patch
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19:09.53_law_pH5: if i push the run button the dispaly turns white and the tornado restarts...
19:10.12pH5oh, that sounds worse
19:10.47_law_pH5: ok i?ll look at haretlog....
19:13.24_law_pH5: http://pastebin.com/m585fddc9
19:13.57_law_perhaps the current kernel cant boot from sd?
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19:16.54okiasHi, looks like new haret(0.4.8) not working with Wizard :-(
19:18.34dcordesokias: the Kevin2 one?
19:18.52okiasError: Allocated memory woll overwrite ifself...
19:18.52okiasError: VirtualFree failed 00460000 / 354 (code 87) :-(
19:19.21BabelOokias : can you test this one http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070816b.exe
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19:20.41okiasBabelO: OK :-) i try
19:21.30BabelOokias: it is the one i use for artemis, it is the latest kevin has build
19:23.15okiasok :-) PS: maybe wizard and Universal have same touchscreen :-)
19:23.50BabelOokias: yes, maybe, i ve to check SPI ;)
19:25.12okias- touch screen controller: TSC2046
19:25.23okiasand universal: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalTouchScreen
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19:25.53BabelOokias: where did you found this information ?
19:25.59okiashttp://mobile.ce4you.cz/forums/view_topic.asp?t=10794
19:26.05pH5seems everyone and their grandma have ads7846 or tsc2046
19:26.15okias4. display
19:27.13BabelOokias: do you have french version ;)
19:27.34BabelOor is there the artemis page ?
19:28.10okiasBabelO: :-( sorry, only czech its only 1 page with this information
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19:29.15shwa_salut hello
19:29.15okias*is
19:31.06dcordesshwa_: hey
19:31.37okiasshwa_: Hi :-)
19:32.21okiasand camera in Wizard is Omnivision OV9650
19:33.13pH5like magician. is there omap1 capture interface support in the kernel?
19:33.41BabelOpH5: yes
19:33.46BabelOhi shwa_
19:34.14goxboxliveBabelO: I read the irc log for yesterday
19:34.22okiasbut drivers for this camera not exist... :-( - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalCamera13
19:34.37goxboxliveBabelO: i swa you wanted a initramfs image. OE has that included now as a image
19:34.52goxboxliveI have never triedbooting it, but i have builded it
19:35.10BabelOhi goxboxlive
19:35.51BabelOgoxboxlive: i do with initrd now, but i can use your initramfs instead ;)
19:36.05pH5okias: yes but it is very similar to ov9640. we'd just have to trace the initialization sequences.
19:37.09pH5I have the problem that there is no pxa capture interface support in linux 2.6 and I couldn't get the DMA to work when I tried to piece it together.
19:37.13goxboxliveBabelO: i dont have it now, i deleted it for a while ago, but i guess i can just build you one. But dont ask me how to handle it
19:37.59BabelOpH5: sorry it seem camera driver are for omap2
19:38.30pH5BabelO: yes, those are the ones that I started from (and failed, so far).
19:38.43BabelOpH5: drivers/media/video/omap/camera_core.c
19:39.48BabelOpH5: it is for (ARCH_OMAP16XX || ARCH_OMAP24XX with OV9640 sensor support
19:40.12BabelOgoxboxlive: you build one with OE ?
19:40.33goxboxliveBabelO: yes
19:40.54BabelOgoxboxlive: then i can do it myself, just to know bb package
19:42.06goxboxlivegood, it's in the images fiolder.
19:42.29goxboxlivepH5: is it you who have updated the defconfig for magician in OE today?
19:43.08pH5goxboxlive: yes, otherwise 2.6.21-hh14 wouldn't include pasic3 support
19:43.40pH5goxboxlive: did you build openmoko 2007.2 images already?
19:43.55goxboxlivepH5: ok
19:44.01pH5I tried to build openmoko-devel-image, but with DISTRO="angstrom", and that didn't work so well.
19:44.18goxboxlivepH5: yes, several, but i cant launch it becuase of the some bug i told you about.
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19:44.43pH5hm, ok.
19:44.44goxboxlivepH5: i am using both angstrom and openmoko distro. Same issue with both of them
19:45.10pH5oh, so maybe it's not the distro.
19:45.28pH5I'll try to fix the angstrom/openmoko-devel-image for magician some time this week
19:45.42goxboxliveNo it happend after Magician where added to the Xserver file. Did you add something else that day?
19:45.58pH5no
19:46.06goxboxliveok
19:46.38pH5hm, I should setup boot via NFS and boot directly from the OE rootfs folder for stuff like that.
19:46.39goxboxlivepH5: I have been able to use Openmoko2 with Magican before, but now it failes.
19:47.03goxboxliveclever
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20:00.16_law_btw. does anybody know viven?
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20:03.20dcordesgoxboxlive: is there a magician machine type for angstrom?
20:04.37pH5dcordes: for OE? sure, MACHINE="magician"
20:05.22dcordespH5: when was it added?
20:05.43dcordespH5: I hope it will also work for the prophet
20:06.00pH5dcordes: ages ago. and no, it won't work for the prophet
20:06.04dcordesoh I think I got magician confused with wizard
20:06.16pH5ah, ok. now it makes sense :)
20:06.31dcordesmagician is arm and prophet and wizard are omap850 right?
20:06.49pH5all are arm. magician is pxa272.
20:07.09dcordesall? I thought prophet and wizard had that omap arch
20:07.44pH5that's partially right, they are plat-omap, specifically mach-omap1. but all of them are arch-arm
20:08.25dcordespH5: where can I get detailed information on those mobile cpu families?
20:08.30pH5omap850 is some arm925? cpu with armv4t instruction set, pxa272 is an xscale with armv5t+iwmmxt instruction set
20:09.04BabelOpH5: omap 850 is arm926
20:09.04dcordeseuu isn't armv4t ancient? even the zaurus have 5vte afaik
20:09.06pH5dcordes: more or less detailed info is on the vendor pages.
20:09.15pH5BabelO: close but no cigar :)
20:09.30BabelO:)
20:11.09pH5dcordes: not only that, but omap850 is ancient, too.
20:11.22pH5(as are all the armv5te intel xscales)
20:11.46pH5embedded processor turnaround time is a bit slower than for desktop cpus.
20:12.53BabelOdcordes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture
20:13.08BabelOOMAP850 is arm926EJ-S
20:13.59BabelOwiki say ARMv5TEJ
20:15.17pH5BabelO: so it's my bad, I'm probably confusing things with the samsung s3c line
20:18.19BabelOpH5 : maybe, i don't know the meaning of armv5tej or armv5te what are the difference between
20:18.39pH5j is probably jazelle, some java vm helper stuff
20:18.46pH5t is thumb
20:18.50pH5and e are some math extensions
20:19.18BabelOok :)
20:19.56BabelOthey says 220 MIPS @ 200 MHz, but mine is 95 bogo mips
20:19.57BabelOlol
20:21.04pH5omap850 is a really scaled down version, afaik it was intended for feature phones, not smartphones in the beginning.
20:23.08BabelOi m happy with this processor ;) gps, works fine, tomtom is quick enougth, video streaming with tcpmp works fine, that's enougth for me, just the wm5 version use to more memory, i just install wm6 :)
20:24.11pH5BabelO: right, and when the processor is slow, you have to write better software :)
20:24.43BabelOpH5: yes  agree with you ;) not some  dot NET software
20:24.51pH5does the artemis have an ati graphics chip?
20:25.08BabelOpH5 : i don't know how to check this
20:25.37BabelOmaybe looking for atixxx dlls
20:27.32ovodwhere get linux for htc p3400?
20:30.01BabelOovod: no linux at the moment for this one ;) but it is omap850 too
20:30.04BabelOmaybe soon
20:30.10pH5ovod: you have to port it yourself
20:30.22pH5all omap850 are very similar, and there's a shitload of them
20:31.22ovodthanks
20:33.04pH5we are just beginning to try and get the existing ports (tornado, typhoon, wizard, artemis) together
20:33.29pH5so others (prophet, herald, gene, ...) will profit
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20:39.18ovodport artemis are?
20:39.49pH5ovod: BabelO just started the artemis port
20:41.07ovodare link on port linux for artemis?
20:41.58pH5not yet. so far we plan to develop in the handhelds.org cvs kernel tree.
20:44.24ovodhow begining? where get docs for haret?
20:44.51BabelOovod: here http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
20:45.06ovodthanks
20:58.56BabelOpH5: it seem i ve a gpio 134 for usb plug, but i don't understand why wizard don't have it :(
20:59.20pH5BabelO: don't assume the wizard guys did everything correctly.
20:59.34BabelOok
20:59.37pH5(the head.S patching doesn't look very professional at least)
20:59.46BabelOpH5: http://pastebin.ca/660422
21:00.51pH5BabelO: either that, or it has something to do with charging
21:00.54BabelOand ii discover also that mach-type is automatically build , lol now i found where,  i have rewritten mach-type.h many time
21:01.08pH5ahh :)
21:07.17BabelOpH5: where the values for cpuid are taken in config file, i m not sure how it works, i understand a little assembler code for cpu detect, but i miss something else
21:07.47pH5the proc_info list is generated from the info in kernel/mm/proc-... files
21:08.19pH5I guess we need to make sure the arm926 one is compiled in
21:09.44BabelOpH5 : ah i see some .long 0xfff0fff something like that with a proc definition just before
21:10.59BabelOand i see also the loop between assembler object, if we can tell that an object
21:16.17BabelOpH5 : yes it is here, but if the first .long is my definition, it is not according to my cp15 definition
21:17.04pH5BabelO: what is your cpuid?
21:18.34BabelOpH5, good question, where it is ;) http://pastebin.ca/663752 if it is c00 then there is +3 diff
21:19.13BabelOit lokks like that i have 41069263 and it is  0x41069260
21:19.18BabelOmaybe due to the omap850 package
21:19.41BabelOmaybe i can just add this
21:20.20pH5BabelO: either that, or isn't there some mask that the value is ANDed with for comparison?
21:20.49pH5this is certainly the difference between omap730 and omap850
21:22.59BabelOok, the second is the bitmask ;)
21:26.10BabelOpH5: thanks for your help, i think i understand how can i change this
21:26.46pH5BabelO: great, and by the time I get an omap850 phone, you'll have done all the work :)
21:27.29BabelOpH5: no no, i keep omap_fb for you, vsfb is running just ifine
21:40.18BabelOpH5: change done, i ll try, crossing finger ;) it is not a guru discipline but it can help
21:43.18BabelOno :( bad ..
21:53.17BabelOpH5 : it is ok now ;),  but only for processor, now it is machine problem
21:53.32pH5yay, one step further
21:53.42pH5do you already have a machine type registered?
21:53.57BabelOpH5: no
21:55.00pH5BabelO: then I'd say head over to arm.linux.org.uk and register and add that to arch/arm/tools/mach-types
21:55.47BabelOoh ho ho and my usb works :( really bad thing
21:55.47BabelOi just build usb in, not as a module :(
21:55.47BabelOgrhh
21:56.06pH5the number you get there is the MTYPE number that you have to set with haret (until haret is patched to recognize artemis)
21:56.38BabelOpH5 : it is the same type in mach-type ?
21:56.39pH5BabelO: be thankful that this is not wm2003se and you don't have to do the stupid tutorial all the time ;)
21:57.00pH5BabelO: same as what? haret MTYPE is linux mach-type
21:57.34BabelOpH5 , yes, but i use virtualbox as a windows machine, to copy zImage on artemis,
21:57.44BabelOpH5 : ok
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21:58.55pH5BabelO: that's why I hack the magician bootloader via usb to upload the kernel and run a small kernel loader :)
21:59.35pH5but can't you use synce to copy things to the artemis?
22:00.48BabelOpH5: synce won't work :( maybe because i reflash with wm6
22:07.02BabelOhum usb does not ping :(----------------------------
22:23.02ImCoKeMaNso i noticed the todo list for haret shows something that looks interesting to me, but i've done no haret dev yet
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22:49.33BabelOpH5: lot of works -> http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_850
22:51.04pH5yeah, it's a pity there are no docs
22:51.07BabelObut i think HTC follow TI advice to chose chip like tsc2046 for touchscreen, i ve already the gpio
22:51.58BabelO;) i ve next mtype
22:54.00pH5:) I see. so do you get past the machine_type check now?
22:54.41BabelOyes
22:54.50BabelOno i ll check
22:55.07BabelObut i ve already add this by hand before
22:58.11BabelOpH5: i ve to set it by and in haret script right ? before kevin2 compile a new one
22:58.37pH5yup
22:58.54BabelOthat why it did not work then ;)
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23:00.25BabelOok, compiling again, because i use same naming convention than you
23:03.54pH5BabelO: good night and good luck
23:34.44BabelOpH5 : now it is ok, boot fine with current settings
23:37.00BabelOKevin2: are you around ?
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