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00:25.12 | Kevin2 | silven: Mainline haret should work on omap850. I think all the features from the various harets have been ported back into mainline now. |
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00:34.36 | huhlig | is there a htc emulator for PC? |
00:41.30 | dcordes | Kevin2: for me your latest release is working for prophet |
02:49.26 | silven | Kevin2: Is there an official repository for haret?\ |
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04:31.17 | huhlig | is there a htc emulator for PC? |
04:44.41 | silven | huhlig: Doubtful, htc means alot of things in terms of hardware, some are pxa based, some are arm/850 some arm/9x I doubt anyone has reverse engineered all the hardware designs htc has released and made an emulator. |
04:44.48 | huhlig | ok |
04:44.52 | huhlig | arm opie |
04:44.57 | huhlig | htc wizard |
04:45.10 | huhlig | I know qemu has an arm emulator |
04:45.13 | silven | You might find something like wine that could run wmobile apps, or maybe an arm virtual machine. |
04:45.15 | silven | exactly. |
04:45.23 | huhlig | how accurate is it |
04:45.26 | silven | but that's not the same as running on the actual phone. |
04:45.30 | huhlig | true |
04:45.46 | silven | as far as the chip, it's prob. very accurate. the phone is another thing. |
04:46.11 | silven | even the keyboard driver is a little bit different across models. |
04:46.56 | silven | If you're looking to port something I would suggest getting the hardware, or at least a close friend that will lend it to you to test on. |
04:47.37 | silven | clear |
04:47.41 | huhlig | actually a question |
04:47.44 | silven | sure |
04:47.45 | huhlig | before you go |
04:47.49 | silven | no problem. |
04:48.01 | huhlig | is there and ethernet driver for windows for the usbgadget |
04:48.11 | huhlig | I tried the RNDIS driver and it doesnt work |
04:48.21 | silven | for windows? |
04:48.25 | huhlig | yea |
04:48.37 | huhlig | I had to modify the linux.inf file to match the USB ID |
04:48.42 | huhlig | it was off by one number |
04:48.52 | silven | Sorry, can't help you there. Haven't run a windows box in close to 10 years, and I avoid it like the plague. |
04:48.55 | huhlig | ahh |
04:49.02 | huhlig | so do I but I am forced to use one |
04:49.23 | silven | I'm sorry. |
04:49.49 | huhlig | no problem |
04:50.19 | silven | I'm working on getting things running on the wizard. If you want help or have questions you can mail me at zmc@centrixpr.com or look up the linwizard project on sourceforge. |
04:50.29 | silven | I'll be back in a few hours or so. |
04:51.14 | huhlig | ok |
04:51.22 | huhlig | actually I tossed it on there |
05:04.12 | silven | Actually if you mail me please use silvenshadow@users.sourceforge.net it goes to the same place, but easier to control that way. |
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10:12.26 | corvus | hi all |
10:23.13 | ketrox | hi |
10:33.39 | corvus | anyone use a universal? |
10:42.21 | Foxdie | I do |
10:46.08 | corvus | with linux, i suppose |
10:46.20 | Foxdie | not for a while now, no |
10:46.28 | Foxdie | I need the GPRS modem working |
10:46.45 | Foxdie | I may be able to offer advise though, whats your problem? |
10:47.13 | corvus | me too, so i will try to help if necessary |
10:47.47 | corvus | the gsmd cant connect correctly to the universal modem in the last images |
10:48.02 | corvus | so we can make anything whit the phone |
10:48.09 | Foxdie | goxboxlive and cr2 are the main universal developers here it seems |
10:48.17 | corvus | yeah, i know |
10:48.29 | Foxdie | if they give me an image and ask me to test it I will though :) |
10:48.31 | corvus | im just writting a mail to goxboxlive |
10:49.19 | corvus | goxbox has some images in linuxtogo working fine in the uni, but not the phone :S |
10:49.41 | corvus | well and the wifi sometime crash |
10:49.42 | corvus | :S |
10:51.04 | Foxdie | i find the wifi is quite useless |
10:51.09 | Foxdie | under linux that is |
10:51.26 | Foxdie | infact I rarely use the wifi on mine, I have a 3G data service and that seems to work |
10:51.40 | Foxdie | lets me listen to online radio stations when I'm driving in the car so I'm happy :) |
10:52.51 | corvus | lol |
10:53.14 | Foxdie | I would ultimately like to move over to linux because I feel it can offer more than Windows Mobile can |
10:53.29 | Foxdie | but as it stands its quite happy as it is |
10:53.30 | corvus | i only use wifi to dowload the ipkg packages in linux, only to avoid bridging in the pc |
10:54.18 | corvus | same feeling... i thing that with linux we can use better the capacities of the uni |
10:54.36 | corvus | but without phone i'm nothing |
10:54.41 | Foxdie | exactly, same here |
10:55.34 | Foxdie | I could live without WiFi support so long as I had bluetooth and GSM / GPRS support |
10:57.08 | corvus | yes... agree with you |
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14:45.06 | huhlig | hello all |
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17:08.30 | goxboxlive | pH5: what is this, this has happend with the openmoko-image lately on magician. It starts fine on Universal, but not on magician: http://pastebin.no/2491 |
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17:52.20 | goxboxlive | pH5: what is this, this has happend with the openmoko-image lately on magician. It starts fine on Universal, but not on magician: http://pastebin.no/2491 |
17:53.22 | goxboxlive | But x11 image works just fine, also with openmoko-dialer2 (havent tested with the openmoko skin). |
17:55.53 | pH5 | goxboxlive: I have yet to check openmoko-image on the magician (my build space is limited, I only have one buildtree per machine currently). |
17:56.26 | pH5 | Maybe something from Xsession.d dies and Xfbdev quits when its last client goes away. |
18:00.37 | pH5 | hm.. if I added an armv4t-only magician machine to my oe tree, I could build an openmoko-image for magician/neo with minimal overhead. |
18:03.57 | goxboxlive | I can see that magician is added to the Xserver file. Could it be something with that? |
18:04.10 | goxboxlive | I have tried removing it, but it didnt help. |
18:04.41 | pH5 | goxboxlive: don't think so, universal is in there for a long time, as is neo |
18:04.55 | goxboxlive | true |
18:04.56 | pH5 | (and I can confirm neo doesn't crash the Xserver) |
18:05.28 | goxboxlive | right |
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20:01.09 | Corvus | hi all |
20:01.50 | pH5 | hi Corvus |
20:02.03 | Corvus | someone need a universal for testing??? |
20:02.04 | Corvus | :P |
20:02.20 | Corvus | the gsmd part? |
20:02.49 | Corvus | I was speaking to goxboxlive today in the xda forums |
20:03.43 | Corvus | i will try to make the gsmd part working again |
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20:05.04 | Corvus | tomorrow i will install the toolchain to make tests |
20:07.19 | pH5 | Corvus: hm, very nice. we really need more people testing gsmd on universal, because it seems we break it all the time :) |
20:07.41 | Corvus | but i have a question... goxboxlive said me that i must get the source from openmoko |
20:08.09 | Corvus | but the openmoko source will compile without modifications for universal? |
20:08.58 | Corvus | or i must only compile the gsmd part from openmoko and change it in the goxboxlive's build? |
20:09.21 | pH5 | Corvus: right. if you don't want to use openembedded, you have to apply the patches from OE manually |
20:09.23 | pH5 | http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gsm |
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20:09.47 | NickBee | Hi All |
20:09.51 | Corvus | hi |
20:10.07 | NickBee | Yesterday, i had a question of non-booting hx4700 |
20:10.13 | pH5 | libgsmd_svn.bb lists the patches applied in SRC_URI, you should only need extreplychars.patch, getopt-wait-interpreter-ready.patch and universal-wcdma.patch from the files dir |
20:10.16 | pH5 | hi NickBee |
20:10.40 | NickBee | that was yesterday, it appears that leaving the device on the whole night solves the issue of "appearing' to be froozen ;) |
20:10.46 | NickBee | Hi pH5 |
20:11.07 | NickBee | now, i am trying to get wifi running on this device ... |
20:12.35 | pH5 | I wish the hx4700 had an internal GSM modem |
20:13.05 | Corvus | so, i must get the openmoko source of gsmd, apply the patchs and compile it, then replace de package (libs and programs i suppose) in my installed gpe? |
20:13.17 | NickBee | ask me ... thats the only thing hx4700 lacks .... or it would have been the perfect device ... |
20:13.38 | Corvus | Nickvbee: and a physical keyboard? |
20:13.40 | Corvus | :P |
20:13.41 | pH5 | Corvus: yes. |
20:13.49 | NickBee | well ... people need to stay in business ... so they don't create a perfect device |
20:14.07 | pH5 | Corvus: a physical slide-out keyboard for a device with the same size would be sweet. |
20:14.08 | NickBee | Corvus: Let them live as well ;) |
20:14.31 | NickBee | or to refine: let them earn their bread and butter as well ... |
20:14.37 | pH5 | I ended up not using my poor hx4700 all that much since I have the stupid phones. |
20:15.19 | NickBee | same here ... got this poor lil thing out of durt and thought lets give it a linux boost |
20:15.40 | Corvus | ph5: maybe, but i like putting my uni like a little tv to see videos, so i cant do it with a slide-out keyb. |
20:15.46 | NickBee | but to my hardluck ... i don't even know how to get bluetooth modem going on this phoe |
20:15.48 | NickBee | pda |
20:16.27 | NickBee | and whatever lil time i was able to get, i kinda kept reading about how to get wifi working on this |
20:16.30 | Corvus | Nick: Yeah, i know they cant do the perfect thing, see the iPhone... :P |
20:16.44 | Corvus | what chip has the 4700 |
20:16.46 | Corvus | ?? |
20:16.52 | pH5 | Corvus: sure, different people, different preferences. I guess I'm a slider type :) |
20:16.52 | NickBee | BTW i found a bootleg version of qtopia |
20:17.12 | NickBee | if anyone needs i can host it somewhere |
20:17.48 | NickBee | anyways, Corvus, i am a rookie when it comes to hardward aspect of things (even softwares when it comes to linux) :) |
20:18.13 | NickBee | Oops pH5, sorry |
20:18.26 | pH5 | NickBee: don't be :) |
20:19.10 | NickBee | anyways, can we use a windows pocket pc phone as bluetooth modem with hx4700 by any chance ? |
20:19.15 | pH5 | Corvus: hx4700 is pxa270 with ati w3220 graphics |
20:19.42 | NickBee | it will be a cool combination |
20:19.47 | pH5 | NickBee: sure. though I prefer to run linux on the windows pocket pc phone. |
20:20.07 | Corvus | but with what wireless chip? |
20:20.13 | NickBee | i tried running sdptool browse, but it didn;t worked with my o2 orbit |
20:20.23 | pH5 | ah, olde acx100 |
20:21.15 | Corvus | when i finish with the gsm part i will try with acx... i hate it... i have 1 pci with this chipset and my knowledge fighting them is great... :D |
20:21.36 | pH5 | NickBee: BabelO has started to port linux for the htc artemis (orbit) |
20:21.59 | NickBee | thats cool |
20:22.11 | NickBee | let me ask if i can be of any help |
20:23.19 | NickBee | BabelO: Hi, I would be intrested in joining you for Artemis port ... |
20:24.09 | NickBee | pH5: so, how would i use a windows ppc as bluetooth modem |
20:24.18 | NickBee | do you know where to look ? |
20:24.39 | NickBee | i.e. any urls you have from top of your head? |
20:25.12 | pH5 | NickBee: no urls, but from memory you have to configure the phone itself to work as a bluetooth modem. |
20:25.45 | NickBee | that is there, i can use the phone as a modem with my windows notebook |
20:25.46 | pH5 | on my old magician (wm2003se) it was a program in the program folder, I don't know where to find it on wm2005 or later |
20:25.55 | NickBee | but don;t know how to use it from 4700 |
20:26.08 | NickBee | its called "internet sharing" |
20:26.13 | NickBee | i have it with me |
20:26.19 | pH5 | so it advertises a dun port? |
20:26.41 | NickBee | but 4700 is not able to detect that |
20:26.47 | NickBee | i tried; sdptool browse |
20:27.03 | pH5 | does sdptool records return anything? |
20:27.11 | NickBee | nope |
20:27.14 | NickBee | nothing at all |
20:27.21 | NickBee | just the mac address |
20:27.37 | NickBee | whereas it returns a whole lot of service from my notebook |
20:27.39 | Corvus | so you see the device, but not the services |
20:27.45 | NickBee | yup |
20:27.47 | BabelO | hi all |
20:27.56 | NickBee | Hello BabelO |
20:28.01 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
20:28.04 | Corvus | and the device is a windows ppc? |
20:28.06 | Corvus | hi |
20:28.24 | NickBee | yup, its WM6 |
20:28.29 | NickBee | Artemis |
20:28.50 | Corvus | maybe the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support dun... |
20:29.17 | NickBee | it supports, i have used it as bluetooth modem with my notebook on numerous occasions |
20:29.39 | NickBee | plus it has another progy which shares internet access over bluetooth pan |
20:30.15 | BabelO | pH5: all new phone are s3c or omap now ;) plus some qualcomm :) |
20:30.39 | Corvus | and the 4700 can see the services of the notebook and cant see the ones in the phone? |
20:30.52 | NickBee | Corvus: yes |
20:31.19 | NickBee | BabelO: i am a newbee ... but i have a orbit to help in your port as a tester ... |
20:31.43 | NickBee | can;t do much of a development in linux |
20:32.44 | BabelO | NickBee: good, it is not just my port, it seem that all omap850 have same base memory map, so same kernel should work on these phone ( omap850 integrate all in it ) |
20:33.44 | BabelO | Nickbee do you use wm69 rom from xanadux ? quickgps is not downloading now :( |
20:34.05 | NickBee | No, i have an old wm6 rom |
20:34.06 | pH5 | NickBee: when I do "sdptool search DUN", it finds my magician's bdaddr and shows it's DUN record |
20:34.12 | NickBee | its not xanadux |
20:34.38 | NickBee | let me try ... |
20:34.52 | Corvus | artemis is htc p3300? |
20:35.03 | NickBee | covus: yes |
20:35.03 | pH5 | and every sdp inquiry kills my old logitech bluetooth mouse for a few seconds. bad ... |
20:35.04 | BabelO | Corvus: yes |
20:36.30 | Corvus | Nick: artemis has bt 2.0 and 4700 has bt 1.2... maybe this is the problem? |
20:36.46 | NickBee | nope, my phone is right here,but it only finds my laptop with "sdptool search DUN" |
20:36.58 | Corvus | Nick: I dont know your laptop version |
20:37.16 | NickBee | its a lenovo 3000 n100 |
20:38.10 | NickBee | and yes "Its a broadcom 2045 bluetooth 2.0 USB" |
20:38.31 | NickBee | it is a bt 2.0 device |
20:38.57 | BabelO | pH5 : how vsfb is handhle with 2.6.21 kernels ?, i see that cr2 coment it out in main device file for athenaa and hermes, any idea why ? |
20:39.24 | Corvus | Nick: Laptop running windows, i suppose... |
20:39.43 | NickBee | yes |
20:39.49 | pH5 | vsfb is only needed to push pixels to an already-initialized-by-wince framebuffer. if you have an fb driver for your device (omap fb?), it is not needed anymore. |
20:40.17 | pH5 | it has only ever been used ad-hoc with patches for a specific device (you have to give the physical frame buffer address) |
20:41.36 | BabelO | pH5: i already do pass frame buffer adress to vsfb like hermes and athena, in wizard code they use it |
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20:42.24 | pH5 | ok, so I don't know why cr2 commented it out. |
20:42.57 | pH5 | maybe he started a module for the ati chips? |
20:43.09 | NickBee | Corvus: Any ideas why it would behave like this? |
20:43.51 | Corvus | Nick: the only problem i see is the bt versions... i'm looking for info... |
20:44.04 | NickBee | Ok ... me too ... |
20:44.30 | BabelO | pH5: ok |
20:44.37 | Corvus | Nick: Not only the versions, but the versions drivers in the two OSs |
20:45.37 | NickBee | Ah ok |
20:45.51 | NickBee | anyway we can nail the issue down? |
20:46.05 | NickBee | or maybe upgrading the kernel would help |
20:46.18 | NickBee | but for that too i need wifi .. which is not working ;) |
20:46.47 | Corvus | Nick: I think the windows in the laptop is able to speak with 1.x and 2.0 devices because his hardware and drivers... but the ppc have the hardware, but the drivers cant speak with 1.2 devices... i think |
20:47.10 | Corvus | Nick: whats the problem with wifi? |
20:47.24 | NickBee | problem ... my ignorance |
20:47.33 | NickBee | i am not sure what to do to get it going |
20:47.41 | Corvus | lol |
20:47.46 | NickBee | :) |
20:47.52 | NickBee | but thats the truth |
20:48.19 | Corvus | Nick: ph5 said me you have a acx chip in your wireless card |
20:48.20 | NickBee | when it asks me the "suppliant drivers" it takes me to another world |
20:49.06 | NickBee | i really don't know about it |
20:49.25 | NickBee | ok, i know that i need to do iwconfig |
20:49.31 | NickBee | and i see wlan0 |
20:50.17 | Corvus | and if you do iwlist scan |
20:50.31 | NickBee | it says :nickname: "acx v0.3.35" |
20:50.37 | NickBee | testing now ... |
20:50.44 | Corvus | do you get wireless nets? |
20:51.39 | NickBee | it says: "wlan0 interface doesn't support scanninh: Resource temporarily unavailable" |
20:52.02 | NickBee | scanning* typo |
20:52.22 | Corvus | ok... |
20:52.46 | Corvus | we will unload the module, reload it and see the messages... |
20:52.56 | NickBee | Ok |
20:52.57 | Corvus | lsmod |
20:53.11 | Corvus | and there must be a module called acx or similar |
20:53.17 | NickBee | yes |
20:53.24 | NickBee | 4700_acx |
20:53.30 | Corvus | modprobe -r 4700_acx |
20:53.34 | NickBee | used: 0 |
20:54.01 | Corvus | modprobe 4700_acx |
20:54.15 | Corvus | and then dmesg to see the last lines |
20:55.20 | NickBee | last line: restarting tasks |
20:55.39 | Corvus | but nothing about acx? |
20:56.01 | NickBee | yes: acx: resume handler is experimental! |
20:56.12 | NickBee | rsm: got dev c3aa4000 |
20:57.22 | Corvus | maybe any line with WLANGEN.BIN not found or RADIOXXX.BIN? |
20:58.21 | NickBee | Nope |
20:58.34 | NickBee | maybe shall i do "modprobe -r 4700_acx" ? |
20:59.26 | Corvus | but this way you will unload the module... maybe in dmesg you can see the unload... try it |
20:59.34 | NickBee | ok |
21:00.11 | NickBee | i see entry in dmesg now |
21:00.22 | NickBee | removing device wlan0 |
21:00.33 | Corvus | ok... i think i get it now... |
21:00.38 | Corvus | modprobe 4700_acx |
21:00.45 | Corvus | then ifconfig wlan0 up |
21:00.46 | NickBee | removing /proc entry driver/acs_wlan0 |
21:00.52 | NickBee | Ok |
21:00.55 | Corvus | then iwlist scan |
21:02.29 | NickBee | i see the network now ... |
21:02.56 | NickBee | is it not doable from the GUI ? |
21:03.05 | Corvus | yes... wait... |
21:03.11 | NickBee | ok |
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21:03.43 | Corvus | your network is wpe, no? |
21:03.47 | Corvus | wep |
21:03.52 | NickBee | wpa |
21:03.59 | Corvus | you cant use wpa |
21:04.00 | huhlig | hello |
21:04.01 | Corvus | :S |
21:04.03 | Corvus | hi |
21:04.08 | Corvus | lol... |
21:04.12 | NickBee | ok, i can changre that to wep |
21:04.14 | Corvus | i think |
21:04.43 | NickBee | give me 2 mins, changing the security to wep |
21:05.18 | Corvus | if you change to wep: iwconfig wlan0 essid "net_name" key "net_password" open channel "channel" |
21:05.30 | Corvus | change the necessary |
21:05.47 | NickBee | doing it .. 1 mins |
21:06.20 | Corvus | then you can put your ip manually or use dhcp (in universal udhcpdc wlan0) |
21:07.21 | Corvus | when you get ok manually you can put it via gui |
21:11.44 | Corvus | Nick: are you there? |
21:12.54 | Corvus | Must go to sleep... see you... |
21:13.36 | Corvus | Nick: If you dont get up the connection maybe i will be there tomorrow at same time |
21:13.44 | Corvus | good night everyone. |
21:16.47 | *** join/#htc-linux [1]NickBee (n=NickBee@117.96.46.53) |
21:16.55 | [1]NickBee | nope, though no error was reported, but it didn't worked either |
21:17.17 | [1]NickBee | (now using artemis as a bluetooth modem on my notebook |
21:21.40 | ketrox | <Corvus> Nick: are you there? |
21:21.40 | ketrox | <Corvus> Must go to sleep... see you... |
21:21.40 | ketrox | <Corvus> Nick: If you dont get up the connection maybe i will be there tomorrow at same time |
21:21.40 | ketrox | <Corvus> good night everyone. |
21:22.09 | [1]NickBee | sure corvus, see ya tomorrow then... |
21:22.59 | ketrox | he quit |
21:23.03 | ketrox | :) |
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23:42.50 | Kevin2 | BabelO - still around? |
23:43.07 | BabelO | Kevin2: yes |
23:43.24 | BabelO | I found some interesting gpio on artemis |
23:43.30 | Kevin2 | Any further luck with your artemis? |
23:43.53 | Kevin2 | BTW, I think I found the gpio irq status area. |
23:44.39 | BabelO | ah, interesting, i download the omap5912 documentation today, it seem memory area are really close |
23:45.12 | BabelO | found that http://pastebin.ca/660422 |
23:45.51 | BabelO | display is better with haretconsole ;) |
23:47.34 | BabelO | where do you found gpio irq status ? in omap1610 documentation ? |
23:47.48 | Kevin2 | Linux kernel code for omap730 |
23:48.19 | BabelO | ok,wizard kernel code is based on this one too |
23:48.27 | Kevin2 | addlist irqs P2V(0xfffbc014) 0 32 0 |
23:48.28 | Kevin2 | addlist irqs P2V(0xfffbc814) 0 32 0 |
23:48.28 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
23:48.28 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
23:48.28 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
23:48.28 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
23:51.01 | Kevin2 | I pushed http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070816.exe and http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/memalias-20070816.py if you want to try it. |
23:51.19 | BabelO | yes i sync now ;) |
23:54.58 | BabelO | Kevin2: any idea how can i trace haret boot process ? |
23:56.02 | BabelO | it display jump to kernel, but nothing more, i miss something sure... maybe using old method (led on when i am in part of code) or is there another solution ? |
23:57.42 | Kevin2 | You see "Jumping to Kernel..."? |
23:57.51 | BabelO | yes |
23:58.10 | BabelO | and after a while, screen become black |
23:58.22 | Kevin2 | There is nothing more to trace in haret after that point. That is literally the instruction prior to the activation of the kernel. |
23:58.54 | BabelO | ok, so i need to found the vibrator gpio ;) |
23:59.23 | Kevin2 | You need to add feedback to your kernel during its init stage. |