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| 07:48.57 | giorgio | hi to all |
| 07:49.06 | giorgio | i have a magician |
| 07:49.40 | giorgio | and i have installed a angstrom on it |
| 07:49.52 | giorgio | it works |
| 07:50.01 | giorgio | but the usb cable not |
| 07:51.28 | giorgio | the kern.log on the pc shows: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe the usb cable is bad? |
| 07:52.42 | giorgio | some ideas? |
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| 14:33.22 | mianos2k | hey guys |
| 14:33.43 | mianos2k | nice to see the result of the hard work in the new images |
| 14:33.54 | mianos2k | theyre a lot ;) |
| 14:34.06 | mianos2k | i have an htc universal too |
| 14:34.21 | mianos2k | i installed haret an partioned the sd |
| 14:34.42 | mianos2k | but it hangs on boot on "Freeing init memory: 88k" |
| 14:34.54 | mianos2k | at this point it stops |
| 14:35.05 | mianos2k | but it responds on enter-key |
| 14:35.40 | mianos2k | i copied all files to the root of the ext3 part. |
| 14:35.55 | mianos2k | copied = means extracted under ubuntu live cd |
| 14:36.50 | mianos2k | could it be a problem that its connected to a windows machine over usb (it charges) |
| 14:36.58 | mianos2k | no drivers on the machine |
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| 16:31.55 | mianos2k | re |
| 16:32.12 | mianos2k | sorry guys "asking and quitting" ;) |
| 16:32.25 | mianos2k | low battery |
| 16:32.25 | mianos2k | now i'm on AC |
| 16:35.05 | mianos2k | is the mda pro (t-mobilde de) / htc universal a nice linux toy? |
| 16:35.18 | mianos2k | its halting at freeing init memory 88k |
| 16:35.25 | mianos2k | ^mine |
| 16:40.36 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: I am using a swap partition with my universal |
| 16:40.51 | mianos2k | hi goxboxlive |
| 16:40.59 | mianos2k | ahm, ok |
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| 16:41.31 | mianos2k | the console (described in the wiki on handhelds.org) from the ramdisk boots fine |
| 16:43.01 | mianos2k | but not from the ext3... |
| 16:44.12 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: ? |
| 16:44.28 | mianos2k | yes |
| 16:44.29 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: ahh you mean |
| 16:44.40 | goxboxlive | the ramdisk image doesnt support ext3? |
| 16:44.53 | mianos2k | no |
| 16:44.56 | mianos2k | i meant |
| 16:45.32 | mianos2k | the ramdisk package to format/partition the sd-c. without a linux-box near by you - like described in the wiki+ |
| 16:45.37 | mianos2k | i was at work |
| 16:45.49 | mianos2k | a few hours ago i wrote here in chan |
| 16:46.34 | mianos2k | this enviroment boots fine - but the downloaded openmoko image for the htc universal stops booting at freeing init memory 88k... |
| 16:47.08 | goxboxlive | So you are saying that the ramdisk image isent creating a ext3 partion. I think it does, because AFAIR when i tested it it did. |
| 16:47.09 | mianos2k | i copied haret to my device, a default.txt and the kernel-bzImage |
| 16:47.39 | mianos2k | nonono |
| 16:47.39 | mianos2k | goxboxlive: ;) |
| 16:47.39 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: ahh ok no i understamnd |
| 16:47.39 | mianos2k | all fine |
| 16:47.39 | mianos2k | ok cool... |
| 16:47.40 | goxboxlive | you need to change the zImage |
| 16:47.48 | mianos2k | where? |
| 16:47.55 | mianos2k | is the image bad? |
| 16:48.04 | mianos2k | OpenMoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-.dev-snapshot-20070808-htcuniversal.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 16:48.05 | goxboxlive | use the zImage in the folder you downloaded the openmoko-image |
| 16:48.09 | mianos2k | zImage-2.6.21-hh14 |
| 16:48.12 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 16:48.14 | mianos2k | yes i did |
| 16:48.20 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:48.26 | mianos2k | and there it stops... |
| 16:48.40 | goxboxlive | i am running ext3 with that image and mine boot just fine. |
| 16:49.15 | mianos2k | whats about the *.cab they talk about in the wiki? |
| 16:49.29 | goxboxlive | I have heard that some people have had the same problem as with other images. It might be that linux (kernel 2.6.16+) isent supporting your SD card |
| 16:49.58 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: i havent created a cab file for the last images. I'll wait until i have a image wirth a working phone. |
| 16:50.02 | mianos2k | oh, i think i found the error |
| 16:50.08 | goxboxlive | good |
| 16:50.47 | mianos2k | the zimage has a little different md5 as the one i downloaded |
| 16:50.53 | goxboxlive | good |
| 16:51.23 | goxboxlive | maybe i should start to add a md5 file too. |
| 16:51.27 | mianos2k | which haret version do you prefer? |
| 16:51.34 | mianos2k | hm... |
| 16:51.38 | mianos2k | my fault |
| 16:51.45 | mianos2k | i downloaded it with umts |
| 16:51.53 | mianos2k | goxboxlive: are you german? |
| 16:52.00 | goxboxlive | no i'm norwegian |
| 16:52.07 | mianos2k | ah ok cool |
| 16:52.30 | mianos2k | unable to mount root fs.... |
| 16:52.39 | mianos2k | i have to check the default.txt |
| 16:52.57 | goxboxlive | are you using the default.txt from the ramdisk image? |
| 16:53.05 | mianos2k | no |
| 16:53.13 | goxboxlive | pastebin your default.txt |
| 16:53.17 | mianos2k | a version i found with google |
| 16:53.20 | mianos2k | hehe |
| 16:53.25 | goxboxlive | and let me have a looj |
| 16:53.33 | mianos2k | cool |
| 16:53.39 | goxboxlive | s/looj/look |
| 16:53.47 | mianos2k | are you able to make calls? or to connect to the internet? |
| 16:53.54 | mianos2k | which image do you have? |
| 16:54.15 | mianos2k | if openmoko runs - the next is opie II and gpephone |
| 16:54.34 | mianos2k | its a very long time ago i saw opie/gpe live |
| 16:54.35 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: i was able to make and receive calls, but the latest changes in gsmd doesnt work with universal. We have to digg a little to find the bug |
| 16:54.42 | mianos2k | my ipaq h3800 is dead |
| 16:54.47 | mianos2k | the displaylight is bad |
| 16:54.56 | mianos2k | ok... |
| 16:55.05 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: i am the one making this images, so i use the latest ones i build :-) |
| 16:55.11 | mianos2k | do you have a working gsmd as ipk |
| 16:55.13 | mianos2k | kk |
| 16:55.49 | goxboxlive | no, i dont have it working now. I'll upload a new openmoko image when i have it working. ANd also with a cab file :-) |
| 16:56.12 | mianos2k | ok |
| 16:56.20 | mianos2k | is wireless working? |
| 16:56.24 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 16:56.24 | mianos2k | with wpa ;) |
| 16:56.28 | mianos2k | cool |
| 16:56.31 | goxboxlive | unstable though, no wpa |
| 16:56.38 | mianos2k | what image do you preferr |
| 16:56.40 | mianos2k | ? |
| 16:57.22 | goxboxlive | UMTS/GPRS is also working, but i have to make a HOWTO for the users. It's a little complicates to have it running __ |
| 16:57.33 | mianos2k | wvdial or what? |
| 16:57.46 | goxboxlive | what is wvdial? |
| 16:58.11 | mianos2k | how is the community around the htc's? is it alive or like the ipaq-h3800-generation? |
| 16:58.13 | goxboxlive | I like the O.P.I.E-II image, but we miss a phone app to ot. |
| 16:58.19 | goxboxlive | s/ot/it/ |
| 16:58.20 | mianos2k | that was just a few people |
| 16:58.46 | mianos2k | i understood ;) |
| 16:59.08 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: it's the same here. We are too few people developing. |
| 16:59.11 | mianos2k | wvdial is an realtive easy to configure ppp-dial-software for linux |
| 16:59.20 | goxboxlive | ok, havnt tested it |
| 16:59.28 | mianos2k | with that i managed to get my gprs connection working on my laptop some years ago |
| 16:59.38 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 16:59.46 | mianos2k | pizza |
| 16:59.47 | mianos2k | yes |
| 16:59.54 | goxboxlive | i use uucp/cu to make gprs work on universal |
| 17:00.03 | mianos2k | set KERNEL zImage |
| 17:00.03 | mianos2k | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 mem=64M fbcon=rotate:1" |
| 17:00.04 | mianos2k | boot2 |
| 17:00.08 | mianos2k | ok |
| 17:00.19 | mianos2k | i didn't know that |
| 17:00.23 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: it should be like this: |
| 17:01.50 | goxboxlive | set CMDLINE "rootdelay=1root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 mem=64M fbcon=rotate:1" |
| 17:02.18 | goxboxlive | use a space between rootdelay=1root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 |
| 17:02.30 | goxboxlive | I'll pastebin my startup.txt |
| 17:02.35 | mianos2k | yes, sure ;) |
| 17:03.22 | mianos2k | i try to boot |
| 17:03.35 | mianos2k | 1 second is not enought |
| 17:03.40 | mianos2k | oh doohhh |
| 17:03.42 | mianos2k | lol |
| 17:03.49 | goxboxlive | set KERNEL zImage |
| 17:03.49 | goxboxlive | set CMDLINE "psplash=true rootdelay=1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p4 console=tty0 fbcon=rotate:1" |
| 17:03.49 | goxboxlive | boot2 |
| 17:03.50 | mianos2k | i left the sd in my reader |
| 17:03.59 | mianos2k | out out out - mianos out |
| 17:04.10 | goxboxlive | and name it startup.txt instead of default.txt |
| 17:04.37 | mianos2k | but it was in the htc's slot before setting the rootdelay option |
| 17:04.41 | mianos2k | ok, cool, thx |
| 17:04.50 | goxboxlive | remember to change the mmcblk0p4 to your partiontio. I guess you use p2 |
| 17:05.04 | mianos2k | yes |
| 17:05.08 | mianos2k | thx for the tip |
| 17:05.12 | goxboxlive | welcom |
| 17:05.14 | goxboxlive | 3e |
| 17:06.17 | mianos2k | whats psplash? |
| 17:07.22 | goxboxlive | bootsplash |
| 17:07.33 | mianos2k | woohooo |
| 17:07.34 | goxboxlive | it looks cool :-) if you are using the openmoko image |
| 17:07.40 | mianos2k | yes |
| 17:07.42 | mianos2k | openmoko |
| 17:08.44 | mianos2k | wow is that x small |
| 17:08.45 | goxboxlive | the first boot take some, it finalizing the installation |
| 17:08.53 | mianos2k | has the htc universal vga-display |
| 17:09.05 | mianos2k | yes, i know, thx ;) |
| 17:09.10 | mianos2k | wow |
| 17:09.14 | mianos2k | that looks nice |
| 17:09.41 | goxboxlive | test the scrolling in apps (hit the + ) . It's really cool |
| 17:09.53 | goxboxlive | just drag your finer down on the screen :-) |
| 17:10.01 | goxboxlive | s/finer/finger/ |
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| 17:11.18 | goxboxlive | hi pH5 |
| 17:11.19 | mianos2k | cool |
| 17:11.23 | mianos2k | but very slow |
| 17:11.24 | mianos2k | ;) |
| 17:11.27 | mianos2k | the sd-card? |
| 17:11.35 | goxboxlive | yes i guess. Use swap. mine isent that slow |
| 17:11.54 | mianos2k | ok, swapfile on sd-card or real swap partition? |
| 17:12.06 | goxboxlive | i use a swap partition on the SD card |
| 17:12.17 | goxboxlive | never tried swap file |
| 17:12.50 | pH5 | hi goxboxlive! |
| 17:13.28 | mianos2k | i will eat my pizza |
| 17:13.30 | mianos2k | cul |
| 17:13.38 | mianos2k | thx guys |
| 17:13.48 | goxboxlive | mianos2k: cu |
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| 18:28.23 | goxboxlive | pH5: on Magician you dis something to gsmd so it stopped spamming at+cops=0 . It's still spamming at+cops=0 on universal. How do override that? |
| 18:29.04 | goxboxlive | s/dis/did/ |
| 18:33.38 | pH5 | goxboxlive: spamming how? there is nothing machine specific in the GSMD_NETWORK_REGISTER network message. |
| 18:33.53 | pH5 | goxboxlive: are you sure this isn't due to another openmoko-dialer version or something like that? |
| 18:34.44 | goxboxlive | pH5: hold i'll test something else before i drag you in to this :-) |
| 18:34.56 | pH5 | :D |
| 19:03.30 | goxboxlive | pH5: do i still need to do this for Universal? www.pastebin.no/2470 |
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| 19:06.44 | pH5 | goxboxlive: you can also start (the OE patched version of) gsmd with the -w option instead. |
| 19:07.29 | goxboxlive | pH5: i am using the OE patched version. ANd i start it with -w 5 |
| 19:07.53 | goxboxlive | www.pastebin.no/2469 |
| 19:09.53 | pH5 | oh, now I understand what you mean with cops spamming. |
| 19:11.58 | pH5 | -w is a boolean switch: the int option is stored in the wait variable and then |
| 19:12.04 | pH5 | if (wait >= 0) |
| 19:12.09 | pH5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.08 | pH5 | that's after the machine plugin initialization, so it should work. am I missing something? |
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| 19:17.12 | dcordes | hi |
| 19:18.17 | dcordes | the prophet wiki is saying that it is similar to the magician. Does that mean one can use magician roms on the prophet. would it be possible to make phone calls with the prophet then? |
| 19:18.32 | dcordes | a friend just got a prophet and we |
| 19:18.41 | dcordes | are rarely wanting to try it out |
| 19:19.22 | goxboxlive | pH5: No, you are not missing something. But the problem is that it starts at+cops=0 every 5 sec and it cant register to the network. |
| 19:21.05 | pH5 | I wish I had a blueangel and a universal for testing :) |
| 19:21.27 | pH5 | dcordes: no, it might look like the magician, but it's more similar to the wizard internally (ti omap850 processor) |
| 19:21.31 | goxboxlive | pH5: me to :-) |
| 19:22.43 | dcordes | pH5: so can I use wizard images with it? |
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| 19:24.38 | pH5 | dcordes: "use" might be said a bit much. but you can probably start from their kernels (or htc tornado, http://chac.le-poulpe.net/~nico/tornado/) |
| 19:25.37 | pH5 | I'd say their images are worth a try, but expect some breakage. |
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| 19:33.51 | goxboxlive | pH5: i started gsmd manually and the launch xserver-nodem and this is what happends. http://pastebin.no/2471 |
| 19:34.15 | goxboxlive | This is with original OE version (recent one) wich is patched |
| 19:36.08 | goxboxlive | And the same is happening when i dont start xserver and uses libgsmdtools and aplying at+cfun=1 |
| 19:40.38 | pH5 | goxboxlive: ah, I've seen something similar before |
| 19:40.53 | pH5 | it happened to me when I issued AT+COPS=0 immediately after AT+CFUN=1 |
| 19:41.43 | pH5 | if you just send AT+CFUN=1 with libgsmd-tool and then wait, does it reply with an "OK" (or "0"), eventually? |
| 19:41.51 | goxboxlive | pH5: yes thats true, we have had the same . AFAIR we had it also with magician |
| 19:42.01 | goxboxlive | but somehow you or someone else fixed it |
| 19:42.11 | goxboxlive | hold on i test |
| 19:43.19 | pH5 | it was probably "fixed" by increasing the delay between AT+CFUN=1 and AT+COPS=0. |
| 19:43.45 | pH5 | if the cops happens before cfun returns ok, gsmd deadlocks. this is a gsmd bug for sure. |
| 19:47.30 | goxboxlive | pH5: it doesnt give me any respons, Neither 0 or OK |
| 19:49.20 | pH5 | :( |
| 19:50.11 | pH5 | I can't remember anything being changed in the startup sequence since it worked last time. |
| 19:51.37 | Shadowmite | so has anyone considered linux on the kaiser when it comes out here? I'm guessing it's gonna be a nightmware using the qualcom comm chip for it's cpu? |
| 19:52.18 | goxboxlive | all i remember was the generic machine plugin stuff where i had to change a line. I remember you said that it was just waste (or something) to have a own machine plugin for universal just because of that line |
| 19:52.40 | goxboxlive | (the patch i asked you about ) |
| 19:53.35 | dcordes | pH5: which image would you suggest rather for a try with the prophet? |
| 19:54.01 | pH5 | goxboxlive: yes, but that was what -w is doing now. make it wait for the interpreter ready message before submitting stuff to the gsm chip. |
| 19:54.20 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:56.29 | pH5 | dcordes: no idea, sorry. I don't have any omap850 device, and I don't know how they differ. |
| 19:56.38 | goxboxlive | pH5: now i didnt do a thing: http://pastebin.no/2472 just started it and waiting. |
| 19:56.53 | dcordes | any other suggestions? I don't know where to start from.. |
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| 20:01.02 | pH5 | goxboxlive: strange. and it's not the chip that is confused? can you talk to it with cu or minicom? |
| 20:02.15 | goxboxlive | pH5: i'll try |
| 20:02.19 | pH5 | dcordes: maybe ask that ~nico guy, his email address is in the CV .doc file |
| 20:03.00 | pH5 | and doesn't one of us have a htc touch now? was that BabelO? |
| 20:04.01 | dcordes | Ok I will try and contact nico and return with results |
| 20:04.14 | dcordes | pH5: is htc touch also omap based? |
| 20:04.31 | BabelO | pH5 hi , no i have an artemis ;) better |
| 20:04.37 | pH5 | dcordes: yes, exact same cpu |
| 20:04.39 | pH5 | BabelO: ah :) |
| 20:05.15 | dcordes | BabelO: artemis also omap? |
| 20:05.18 | BabelO | pH5: but haret is very slow on it :( there is a problem with |
| 20:05.27 | BabelO | dcordes: yes omap 850 |
| 20:05.57 | dcordes | BabelO: what do you mean haret is slow? I thought that would just boot |
| 20:07.00 | goxboxlive | pH5: root@htcuniversal:~$ cu -l /dev/ttyS0 -s 115200 |
| 20:07.01 | goxboxlive | Connected. |
| 20:07.01 | goxboxlive | AT-Command Interpreter ready |
| 20:07.01 | goxboxlive | OK |
| 20:07.02 | goxboxlive | at+cfun=1 |
| 20:07.04 | goxboxlive | OK |
| 20:07.06 | goxboxlive | at+cops=0 |
| 20:07.08 | goxboxlive | OK |
| 20:07.10 | goxboxlive | at+cops? |
| 20:07.12 | goxboxlive | at+cops=?R: no network service |
| 20:07.14 | goxboxlive | +COPS: (1,,,"24201",3),(3,,,"24202",1),(3,,,"24203",1) |
| 20:07.16 | goxboxlive | OK |
| 20:08.43 | pH5 | goxboxlive: well, so it's unambiguously gsmd's fault. (who would have thought) |
| 20:08.53 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 20:09.13 | goxboxlive | There has to be something we have forgot in the pathces. |
| 20:10.49 | goxboxlive | pH5: I have also tried a hack. At line 227 in gsmd.c i changed 0 to another number just to see what will happend. |
| 20:10.55 | goxboxlive | and i got this output |
| 20:10.56 | BabelO | dcordes: never try to boot wizard or other kernel on it, just checking memory map, |
| 20:11.04 | dcordes | oh i see |
| 20:11.22 | dcordes | so if i take this the right way: omap things are in early stage? |
| 20:11.25 | goxboxlive | pH5: http://pastebin.no/2473 |
| 20:12.28 | pH5 | BabelO: time to get started ;) |
| 20:12.59 | pH5 | goxboxlive: confusing, there is not a single reply. |
| 20:13.14 | pH5 | isn't the first ATE0V1 command blocking in gsmd? |
| 20:13.19 | BabelO | pH5: yes, it is a really nice phone, mmu is quite similar to wizard and other omap phone i found some common adress |
| 20:15.02 | goxboxlive | pH5: i remember there where some bugs about universal needed to have "OK" or something wich GTA0 didnt need. Or maybe i remember wrong |
| 20:20.48 | dcordes | BabelO: I found a haret for prophet |
| 20:21.01 | pH5 | goxboxlive: I'm not sure from the logs if that could be it. |
| 20:21.17 | dcordes | BabelO: http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/ |
| 20:21.18 | goxboxlive | right |
| 20:21.45 | pH5 | You could try to add some printfs to check with what happens in the firstcmd callbacks. |
| 20:23.50 | BabelO | dcordes: yes, i know, but i use kevin2 svn haret, he add more functionnality ;) |
| 20:25.19 | dcordes | BabelO: I heard I must modify the windows blob things before I can start unsigned applications like haret? |
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| 20:27.07 | BabelO | dcordes: i haven't this problem, does your haret tell you something about signed application ? |
| 20:28.15 | dcordes | BabelO: all PDA I have here is a zaurus akita |
| 20:28.36 | dcordes | I'm just trying to gain information on how to start when I get my friend's prophet |
| 20:30.36 | pH5 | dcordes: get haret and an omap850 kernel, try to boot, see that nothing works, start fishing for information about the hardware with haret, fix kernel, repeat :) |
| 20:31.17 | pH5 | if you're lucky things like frame buffer and usb gadget already work. |
| 20:32.30 | dcordes | pH5: somebody already gained hw info and put it on the wiki |
| 20:32.56 | dcordes | oops |
| 20:33.01 | dcordes | confused it with the magician wiki page |
| 20:33.10 | dcordes | which I thought would be identically |
| 20:33.25 | BabelO | dcordes: ok |
| 20:33.47 | dcordes | so haret can also show all the hardware on a machine? |
| 20:33.51 | BabelO | dcordes: if you need to sign some application there is a little pof executable that do that really fine |
| 20:34.15 | dcordes | BabelO: I will send that haret link to my friend and see if he can execute it |
| 20:34.46 | BabelO | ok ;) |
| 20:35.06 | BabelO | i have to try wizard kernel too ;) |
| 20:35.52 | dcordes | BabelO: you said you had an optimized haret for omap? |
| 20:37.22 | BabelO | dcordes: not optimized for omap, but an haret with a professional support from Kevin2 :) this haret have some functionnality to get information from dll loaded by wince |
| 20:38.03 | dcordes | BabelO: is it possible to dump that info to a textfile iwth that haret and is there a kvin2 haret binary? |
| 20:39.01 | BabelO | dcordes: yes you can ;) it is log and unlog command in all haret |
| 20:39.46 | dcordes | BabelO: ok mind giving me a URI to the binary? |
| 20:40.08 | BabelO | dcordes: oh yes, wait i look into the log ;) |
| 20:40.11 | dcordes | thanks |
| 20:40.21 | dcordes | my friend is waiting to give me the output ^^ |
| 20:42.23 | BabelO | dcordes: http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret |
| 20:42.39 | BabelO | dcordes: thanks to google, really powerfull site: command |
| 20:48.11 | dcordes | BabelO: which one to take? |
| 20:48.28 | dcordes | http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070801b.exe ? |
| 20:49.17 | BabelO | yes, i have this one |
| 20:51.29 | BabelO | and i also try omap-haret from wizard web site |
| 20:52.22 | dcordes | I just sent my him the haret-20070801b.exe one he will try that first |
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| 22:00.35 | giorgio | hi! |
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| 22:04.33 | giorgio | there is a gpe image for magician? http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/x11-GPE/ is empty... |
| 22:06.16 | BabelO | giorgio: if you are familar with linux you can take universal x11 image and just take module and zImage from a magician image |
| 22:07.34 | giorgio | ok... i am a linux user... i have downloaded a x11 image for magician at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/magician/20070709/ |
| 22:07.51 | giorgio | but it lacks gpe applications and gophone |
| 22:08.31 | BabelO | yes |
| 22:08.35 | giorgio | i think that it can be downloaded after with 'feeds'... |
| 22:08.43 | BabelO | try openmoko image then better |
| 22:08.47 | giorgio | but i have some trouble to make a usb connection |
| 22:09.10 | giorgio | mmmm... where can i download an openmoko image? |
| 22:09.23 | giorgio | it sounds good |
| 22:11.47 | giorgio | ah... sorry... ok |
| 22:12.03 | giorgio | universal means htc universal!!! |
| 22:12.06 | BabelO | giorgio: you find it ? |
| 22:12.13 | BabelO | oh yes yes htc universal |
| 22:12.52 | BabelO | image between htc devie are same, just some tweaks are made related to etc directory and maybe some other |
| 22:13.16 | BabelO | path /lib/modules changes and also zImage, other are same |
| 22:14.19 | giorgio | ok! now i try... |
| 22:14.35 | giorgio | thank you! |
| 22:26.59 | dcordes | BabelO: would it be possible to build an openmoko image for the omap htc and use the htc-linux gsmd with it? |
| 22:27.15 | BabelO | dcordes: yes sure |
| 22:27.26 | BabelO | but need to have modem working before |
| 22:27.46 | BabelO | i see people working on tornado and typhoon have it |
| 22:29.34 | dcordes | cool |
| 22:30.01 | BabelO | i hope it is the same on other omap phone |
| 22:30.10 | dcordes | BabelO: are there other things lacking among the modem for omap htcs? |
| 22:31.08 | BabelO | dcordes: yes suspend / resume, battery monitor, and other gadget like wifi bluetooth |
| 22:31.18 | BabelO | lot of thing :( |
| 22:31.28 | dcordes | hope I'll be able to help |
| 22:32.01 | dcordes | thing is I won't be able to have the prophet here for a long period of time |
| 22:34.04 | BabelO | ok |
| 22:34.31 | dcordes | but I will be able to test an iamge here and now |
| 22:35.05 | BabelO | good , can you test wizard image ? |
| 22:35.13 | dcordes | erm |
| 22:35.26 | dcordes | I only have access to the prophet sorry |
| 22:35.36 | dcordes | but I will build openmoko omap |
| 22:36.09 | BabelO | dcordes: wizard / prophet you can try |
| 22:36.23 | dcordes | there are machine specifications for openembedded for some HTC phones |
| 22:38.30 | BabelO | dcordes: machines spec are only for kernel buildin |
| 22:38.40 | dcordes | yes |
| 22:39.05 | dcordes | so OE knows how it has to build the kernel for your machine |
| 22:39.45 | dcordes | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/downloads see there are angstrom images for tornado, universal, wallaby and magician |
| 22:43.25 | BabelO | yes, you need a local.conf file |
| 22:44.04 | BabelO | and it told oe to look at handhelds.org cvs to checkout fresh or stable kernel for the device with proper settings |
| 22:50.10 | giorgio | mmmm... i have some trouble... i have tested zImage 2.6.21-hh10 from angstrom and openmoko for universal, then gpephone for blueangel... |
| 22:50.28 | giorgio | with openmoko the screen is over-sized.... |
| 22:50.38 | giorgio | and stylus does not works |
| 22:51.00 | giorgio | with gpephone screen is good... but stylus is not working again |
| 22:52.00 | BabelO | giorgio: yes stylus is not at same place between device, normally there is a detect-stylus executable to autodetect |
| 22:53.04 | giorgio | mmm... ok! BUT how i can execute a shell if the stylus is not working? :-| |
| 22:53.25 | BabelO | giorgio: yes over usb |
| 22:53.26 | giorgio | i should mod the image? |
| 22:53.33 | giorgio | mmmm.... |
| 22:54.06 | giorgio | there is some docs on this^ |
| 22:54.45 | BabelO | normally each image load g_ether module, so you have to plug your usb, modprobe usbnet on host side then ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.205 |
| 22:54.49 | BabelO | and then ping |
| 22:56.41 | giorgio | ok... there is another problem... when i connect the usb cable with my laptop in the syslog appears "hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe the usb cable is bad?" |
| 22:56.57 | giorgio | the cable is the same that i use with wince... |
| 22:57.29 | giorgio | when i try to modprobe g_ether |
| 22:58.10 | giorgio | "No such device" |
| 22:58.37 | giorgio | have you some ideas? |
| 22:59.25 | BabelO | humm |
| 22:59.35 | BabelO | usb speed usb 2.0 usb 1.0 |
| 22:59.59 | dcordes | BabelO: my mate tried http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070801b.exe on his prophet and is getting "txt file not found" executing it |
| 23:00.12 | BabelO | not enought power on usb... somtimes my computer do the same, i just change usb connector |
| 23:00.45 | BabelO | txt file not found ? when lauching haret ? |
| 23:00.54 | BabelO | or when logging ? |
| 23:00.55 | dcordes | yea.. |
| 23:01.14 | dcordes | if I got him right executing it |
| 23:01.24 | dcordes | he's a plastic windows person ^^ |
| 23:02.01 | BabelO | ah yes |
| 23:02.12 | BabelO | you launch haret |
| 23:03.06 | BabelO | and then you have two button |
| 23:03.21 | dcordes | BabelO: oh sorry. he can run it and it is looking like "default.txt button run button listen for network connection found machine prophet |
| 23:03.27 | dcordes | cannot open script file |
| 23:03.28 | BabelO | one for lauching external script and other for listening telnet connect |
| 23:03.43 | BabelO | ok good |
| 23:04.42 | dcordes | BabelO: err so how can he get the hardware info now? |
| 23:04.44 | BabelO | when he start listen button |
| 23:04.57 | dcordes | he has no telnet connection or anything |
| 23:05.00 | dcordes | only the app... |
| 23:05.06 | BabelO | then he can log using telnet <ip adress> 9999 |
| 23:05.24 | dcordes | what ip adress` |
| 23:05.47 | dcordes | you mean from a different machine? |
| 23:06.37 | BabelO | yes from windows machine over wifi or activesync |
| 23:07.23 | dcordes | BabelO: is activesync that usb connection thing? |
| 23:08.01 | BabelO | yes |
| 23:08.39 | BabelO | using ipconfig /all in windows shell you can see device adress if i remember |
| 23:09.16 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Hi - were you looking for me a few days ago? |
| 23:09.31 | dcordes | hey Kevin2 you the haret guy aren't you? |
| 23:09.55 | BabelO | hi Kevin2 |
| 23:10.01 | dcordes | how can he get the shell on his haret side? |
| 23:10.11 | BabelO | Kevin2: yes, some question about haret slowness |
| 23:10.22 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Yes - I've been doing all the recent development. |
| 23:10.47 | dcordes | a friend of mine is just trying it on his prophet |
| 23:10.52 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Hrmm. Do you have logging enabled? (via LOG or earlyharetlog.txt) |
| 23:11.11 | BabelO | Kevin2: not early log |
| 23:11.23 | BabelO | telnet is very long long |
| 23:12.17 | dcordes | BabelO: how to get command line in windows mobile? |
| 23:12.21 | Kevin2 | (BTW, psokolovsky is also a main developer.) |
| 23:12.25 | BabelO | Kevin2: i use wm6 on omap850 maybe it is that |
| 23:12.44 | BabelO | dcordes: not in windows mobile in windows computer |
| 23:12.47 | dcordes | oh the prophet also has omap850 |
| 23:13.15 | Kevin2 | BabelO: What's slow? Any command, startup, certain commands? |
| 23:13.41 | dcordes | BabelO: ok ipconfig /all where can he find his prophet then? |
| 23:14.03 | BabelO | Kevin2: it is by period, first login is quick then each press key very slow, but result command are fast |
| 23:14.32 | Kevin2 | BabelO: What do you use on your host? |
| 23:14.46 | BabelO | Kevin2: linux opensuse 10.2 |
| 23:15.25 | Kevin2 | You use telnet or haretconsole? |
| 23:16.05 | BabelO | telnet |
| 23:16.14 | dcordes | is there any way to copy things from stupid windows command line? |
| 23:16.15 | BabelO | haven't check out your tools |
| 23:16.56 | Kevin2 | Sounds like telnet is in interactive mode instead of line mode. Can you try haretconsole. Either from cvs or from http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haretconsole-20070611.tar.gz |
| 23:17.32 | BabelO | ok trying now |
| 23:17.52 | BabelO | dcordes: is it wm5 on prophet ? |
| 23:18.16 | dcordes | BabelO: yea I think so. we got his usb ip now |
| 23:18.31 | dcordes | and telnet setup |
| 23:18.40 | dcordes | how do we get the hardware specs out of it now? |
| 23:19.27 | BabelO | dcordes you can get some info yes |
| 23:19.35 | dcordes | how? |
| 23:19.46 | dcordes | pH5: told me that's the way to go.. |
| 23:19.55 | Kevin2 | dcordes: What are you looking to do? |
| 23:20.34 | dcordes | Kevin2: I'm looking to get detalied hardware specifictaions for the htc prophet of my friend in order to make some image |
| 23:25.25 | dcordes | Kevin2: can I do that with your version of haret? |
| 23:25.33 | dcordes | we are trying the latest one |
| 23:25.46 | BabelO | Kevin2: seem to be that, works better now |
| 23:25.47 | Kevin2 | Well, there are lots of commands for gathering info. See "HELP" for a list. |
| 23:25.55 | BabelO | really strange, never have that with ba |
| 23:26.11 | Kevin2 | You can list the processes (ps), the modules (lsmod), and get info on power state (powermon). |
| 23:27.15 | dcordes | Kevin2: ok. we attached his prophet using usb to his windows box. he fired up haret and selected listen for network connection. then we tried to connect from his windows box using "telnet 169.254.2.2 9999" |
| 23:27.17 | Kevin2 | You can dump various areas of memory (PD), and even watch wm5 read/write to memory (wirq). |
| 23:27.22 | dcordes | but that doesn't work |
| 23:27.30 | dcordes | although he can ping the machine using this ip |
| 23:27.58 | Kevin2 | You clicked on "listen" and you see the "busy" icon in the center of the screen on the phone? |
| 23:28.29 | dcordes | Kevin2: my friend told me it is showing some windows loading screen after he selected listen |
| 23:28.37 | dcordes | until it is timing out after a few |
| 23:29.45 | Kevin2 | Unfortunately, there aren't any good sources of chipset info for the omap850. Haret can help figure out what wince is doing, but it can't replace the chipset docs. |
| 23:30.24 | Kevin2 | dcordes: That is odd - are you sure you have the right IPs and that the connection is fully up? |
| 23:30.43 | dcordes | Kevin2: he can ping the phone using this ip adress |
| 23:30.46 | BabelO | Detected machine Artemis/OMAP850 (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='ARTE10000') |
| 23:30.46 | BabelO | CPU is ARM ARM arch unknown(6) stepping 3 running in system mode |
| 23:30.49 | dcordes | and can do active sync things |
| 23:31.38 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Are you sure he is pinging the phone and not his own machine? :-} |
| 23:32.15 | dcordes | well I told him to ipconfig /all on his windoze and that said Windows mobile based device |
| 23:32.22 | dcordes | for the entry I chose to be the right one ^^ |
| 23:32.53 | BabelO | Kevin2: i hope this message is not due to wm6 support "Unable to create tool help snapshot" |
| 23:32.53 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Can you enable "earlyharetlog.txt" and send the log to haret@handhelds.org? (I'd like to keep a log of all new machines we find.) |
| 23:33.07 | BabelO | Kevin2: ok doing that ;) |
| 23:33.13 | dcordes | Kevin2: any idea? |
| 23:33.28 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Hrmm. I fixed that.. What haret version do you have? |
| 23:33.50 | BabelO | Kevin2: 20070801b |
| 23:36.31 | Kevin2 | dcordes: I don't know much about windows. Is there a way to verify that IP address (eg, by looking through the connections settings on the phone). |
| 23:36.32 | dcordes | hm hm |
| 23:37.35 | dcordes | Kevin2: but 9999 is right? |
| 23:37.52 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Can you confirm that you have "pre-0.4.9-20070801_231714" |
| 23:38.23 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Yes, 9999 is correct. |
| 23:38.33 | BabelO | dcordes: Kevin2 have right, i think ip adress from ipconfig is not good check ip adress with taskmanager v2.7 in wm5 |
| 23:40.12 | BabelO | Kevin2: i check, i have log now, sending it |
| 23:41.02 | Kevin2 | I'll be back in a half hour or so. |
| 23:41.26 | BabelO | ok mail sent and i confirm haret version ;) |
| 23:43.14 | dcordes | ooh maybe his active sync program is jamming the connection |
| 23:44.02 | BabelO | dcordes: can you check ip adress on device itself ? |
| 23:45.16 | dcordes | he tried to find some menu for that but no success |
| 23:47.13 | UhligH_ | where can I get a wizard kernel and fs? |
| 23:47.30 | UhligH_ | is there a download site |
| 23:47.32 | BabelO | humm |
| 23:53.47 | BabelO | http://omap850.om.funpic.de/downloads/wizard/readme |
| 23:53.59 | BabelO | http://omap850.om.funpic.de/downloads/wizard/ |
| 23:56.03 | BabelO | dcordes: on readme you have step by step |
| 23:56.09 | BabelO | how to obtain ip adress |