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00:46.32 | scatterp- | hi any hardware people around i bought a blueangel since i lost my universal in a taxi and it had a bent pin on the sd reader so i took it apart (with magnetic screw drivers) and straitened the pin reassembled it and now it does not turn on no lights nothing any one have advice ? |
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01:46.28 | scatterp- | fixed.. |
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04:00.34 | tre9 | scatterp-, what fixed the problem? Did you just disconnect and reconnect the battery? |
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08:24.53 | boogieman | hello all; i'm thinking of installing linux on my Imate Jamin (HTC Prophet)... has anyone done this successfully? If so pls respond |
08:26.02 | Foxdie | boogieman: have you checked the handhelds.org page? |
08:26.11 | Foxdie | tells you whats compatible and not |
08:26.21 | Foxdie | if you'd like I'll get you the URL |
08:27.26 | Foxdie | ahh, checking the site, development hasn't started for it yet |
08:27.58 | boogieman | Foxdie: thanks; that'll be great. Since i'm new to this and the site itself, i'm rather lost in that site |
08:28.01 | Foxdie | you can try one of the other versions, so long as you choose not to install to flash no change is permanent |
08:28.27 | Foxdie | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones |
08:29.45 | boogieman | Foxdie: I've visited that site before and i'll go through it now ... |
08:30.05 | boogieman | but can you tell me the normal steps we should follow in installing a linux distro on this phone |
08:30.25 | boogieman | all i have is my phone, USB cable and 1GB SD Card |
08:30.38 | boogieman | will that suffix to begin my journey ? |
08:33.16 | Foxdie | Yes |
08:33.23 | Foxdie | its a 2 stage install |
08:34.01 | Foxdie | the first is to boot from a ramdisk and partition the SD card into two partition; one FAT16/32 one for windows to read and to store the installers on, and a second EXT3 to install the linux on |
08:34.30 | Foxdie | the second stage is to untar all the files from the installer to the new EXT3 partition |
08:34.47 | Foxdie | once you've done that, you can boot from the new partition and enjoy linuxy goodness in your diet |
08:35.08 | Foxdie | and when you've had enough, simply reboot and you'll boot back into windows |
08:35.18 | Foxdie | no permanent changes are made bar what oyu make to the filesystem on the SD card |
08:35.51 | boogieman | Foxdie: thanks for sharing this info with me.. however; how can i boot from a ramdisk? how do I do this ? |
08:36.23 | Foxdie | there is a executable you run in windows |
08:36.29 | Foxdie | its called HARET.exe |
08:36.51 | Foxdie | you run that, and select a text file which is like a descriptor for how to boot into linux |
08:37.04 | Foxdie | you can stick it in your start menu for easy access too |
08:39.09 | boogieman | thanks again |
08:40.34 | Foxdie | when I say windows, I mean windows mobile, not windows on a desktop pc ;) |
08:41.07 | Foxdie | I suggest you search through that website for the one that closely matches your device and there's a good chance it should work for it |
08:42.15 | boogieman | ok, i'll familiarize myself with the website first |
08:44.30 | Foxdie | you may find things like wifi don't work, the hardware differs from device to device |
08:44.44 | Foxdie | but if you ask here you might be able to find the driver seperately to add to the ROM |
08:45.15 | Foxdie | and if you feel confident enough, maybe you could become an "ambassador" for the prophet here? ;) |
08:45.23 | Foxdie | (aka head up development) |
08:46.54 | boogieman | i don't think my current background will help in that; but atleast i can improve the documentation on this subject with my experience |
08:47.09 | Foxdie | Every little helps :) |
08:48.06 | boogieman | thanks Foxdie; i'll drop by this channel from time to time to get guidance |
08:48.31 | Foxdie | You're more than welcome to |
08:48.44 | pH5 | yeah, the more the merrier! |
08:48.53 | Foxdie | yep :) |
08:49.23 | Foxdie | speaking of which, I wonder if any of the Universal lot want a semi-dead universal motherboard for testing |
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09:04.22 | boogieman | Foxdie: i download haret-0.4.8.exe however what are these 'installation files' you mentioned above |
09:06.38 | Foxdie | you need to go into the downloads / kernel section of another device |
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09:08.06 | boogieman | ok; does haret come with 'tar' so i can untar them ? |
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09:08.32 | Foxdie | there's a mini image you need to download |
09:08.42 | Foxdie | the ramdisk image its referred to as |
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09:12.53 | Foxdie | wb goxboxlive |
09:13.12 | goxboxlive | hi, network problems :-) |
09:19.36 | boogieman | Foxdie: handhelds has two websites; one with moin and another with geeklog (confusing; but getting around it) |
09:20.28 | Foxdie | moin is the main one |
09:20.36 | Foxdie | read off the specs of your prophet |
09:20.46 | Foxdie | and I'll help you pick one |
09:21.40 | boogieman | thanks Foxdie |
09:21.48 | boogieman | here goes; 'Device Information' |
09:22.06 | Foxdie | goxboxlive: how are you today? |
09:23.30 | boogieman | CPU: OMAP850, Speed: 195MHz, RAM Size: 64MB, Flash size : 128MB, Flash chip type : M-Systems, Data bus : 16bits Storage size 42.55MB, LCD:240x320, Colors : 65536 |
09:24.55 | boogieman | ROM Version : 2.13.9.23 WWE, Radio version : 1_02.20.21, Protocol version: 4.1.13.9, ExtROM version: 2.13.9.126 |
09:26.42 | Foxdie | actually I look further into it now, the prophet will only boot from haret ramdisk image, there's no compatible rom as of yet |
09:26.54 | Foxdie | goxboxlive may know more |
09:27.13 | Foxdie | ooh btw goxboxlive, could you make use of a semi-working universal motherboard? |
09:33.37 | goxboxlive | Foxdie, no i dont have any used for that. Maybe cr2 can take advantage of it. |
10:06.37 | Foxdie | ok |
10:06.40 | boogieman | Foxdie: Thanks |
10:15.07 | boogieman | Foxdie: i'm running haret on my Jamin.. can you pls. suggest a sample text file to load and to the partitioning ? |
10:21.52 | Foxdie | it should have come with one |
10:22.08 | Foxdie | here are the universal files, maybe some are compatible: |
10:22.54 | Foxdie | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux |
10:27.26 | boogieman | Foxdie: thanks for providing this link |
10:28.09 | boogieman | however, now i'm more interested in how you really came across that link. I've been reading up the handsheld.org website and was not able to get reach this site |
10:28.44 | boogieman | even getting documentation about haret is a problem; only a google search provided the link to haret |
10:30.01 | Foxdie | google |
10:30.07 | Foxdie | "handhelds.org universal" |
10:30.21 | Foxdie | how I originally came by it was a google search for linux on htc universal |
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14:48.18 | Foxdie | hmm |
14:48.37 | Keizer | Sorp |
14:48.40 | Foxdie | what are openmoko doing to combat the iphone for super sexy interfaceness? :) |
14:48.46 | Foxdie | hi Keizer |
14:49.04 | Keizer | Dunno what they doing. I'm a gpe guy |
14:51.44 | Foxdie | it just struck me that openmoko and iphones interface are quite similar |
14:51.56 | Foxdie | and I wondered if they had a trick up their sleeve to better steve jobs :) |
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14:53.35 | Keizer | lol |
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15:10.16 | scatterp- | hows linux for the blue angel ? |
15:10.45 | Keizer | No idea |
15:10.49 | Keizer | I'm building for Apache |
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15:34.58 | Keizer | Welcome Hawk|- |
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15:42.54 | goxboxlive | hi |
15:47.41 | Keizer | goxboxlive: Welcome ^_^ |
15:47.49 | goxboxlive | hi Keizer |
15:48.01 | Keizer | goxboxlive: I was almost into Linux |
15:48.08 | Keizer | I think I have to build a Kernel without images |
15:48.24 | Keizer | However, now I am going to produce a cpio image |
15:48.42 | Keizer | How do you present a cpio image to the kernel through the heret though? |
15:51.26 | goxboxlive | Keizer, thsi is how we do it with HTC Universal when we are using a initrd: |
15:51.29 | goxboxlive | set KERNEL zImage |
15:51.29 | goxboxlive | set INITRD rd |
15:51.29 | goxboxlive | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk_size=14336 keepinitrd console=tty0 mem=63M fbcon=rotate:1" |
15:51.29 | goxboxlive | boot2 |
15:53.42 | Keizer | rawk |
15:53.49 | Keizer | Why boot2? |
16:05.56 | Keizer | goxboxlive: Do you know why packages/perl/perl-native_5.8.8.bb will always fail? |
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17:05.08 | ellisway | evening all |
17:45.29 | Keizer | Guten tag ellisway |
17:53.33 | goxboxlive | Keizer, i have no idea why perl-native doesnt build, mine is ok so i have no idea. Do you have the output of the bug? |
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18:08.52 | Keizer | goxboxlive: How can I clean my build directory to rebuild everything? |
18:09.13 | goxboxlive | Keizer, delete your work directory |
18:09.25 | Keizer | goxboxlive: ^_^ |
18:09.37 | Keizer | I still don't think i'll be able to build the perl-native but i'll try |
18:09.57 | Keizer | What's the normaly build order? You just type: bitbake gpe-image ? |
18:10.02 | goxboxlive | Keizer, hold on |
18:10.39 | goxboxlive | just try bitbake -crebuild perl-native (or what the package is named) and pastebin the output |
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18:15.11 | Keizer | Damn |
18:15.18 | Keizer | This is the furthest it has ever gotten |
18:15.23 | Keizer | Still hasn't stopped |
18:16.30 | Keizer | goxboxlive: Just died |
18:16.35 | Keizer | there's a lot of output |
18:16.53 | goxboxlive | not here, pastebin.ca |
18:17.45 | Keizer | http://pastebin.ca/595888 |
18:19.13 | Keizer | goxboxlive: There's output above that but this is always the part where it fails |
18:19.22 | goxboxlive | np |
18:21.14 | Keizer | # |
18:21.15 | Keizer | | SysV.xs:7:25: error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory |
18:21.17 | Keizer | # |
18:21.37 | Keizer | | make[1]: *** [SysV.o] Error 1 |
18:22.09 | goxboxlive | Keizer, do you have all this installed? http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/RequiredSoftware |
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18:34.29 | Keizer | goxboxlive: I went over the OE and your distro portion before |
18:34.31 | Keizer | I'll go over this |
18:36.46 | Keizer | goxboxlive: Know any use flags that Perl should be build with? |
18:40.58 | goxboxlive | Keizer, no i have no idea. Maybe you miss some perl headers |
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19:05.07 | Keizer | goxboxlive: I'm doing my dilligence ^_^ |
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20:46.06 | BabelO | HI |
20:46.33 | BabelO | everybody sleeping or at the beach, swimming ? |
20:46.37 | BabelO | :) |
20:51.39 | BabelO | ok, one beer if someone answer why got this error when compiling qtopia with OE cross compiler /local/OE/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libdl.so: file not recognized: File format not recognized |
20:58.49 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
20:58.58 | BabelO | heya goxboxlive |
20:59.20 | goxboxlive | Well swimming up here nirth is not an option :-) |
20:59.32 | goxboxlive | s/nirth/north/ |
20:59.54 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
20:59.57 | goxboxlive | :-) |
21:00.23 | goxboxlive | BabelO, i have volume button working in both magician and universal now |
21:00.35 | BabelO | i can't compile with OE cross compiler , which one did you use ? |
21:00.42 | goxboxlive | I'll up the defaultbuttons.conf |
21:00.56 | BabelO | good, and power button on magician ? |
21:01.58 | goxboxlive | BabelO, i have had the same problem my self with a lot of crosscompilers, but i got one that suddenly worked, its from 2007.19.05 |
21:02.07 | goxboxlive | No, power doesnt work |
21:02.21 | BabelO | ok |
21:02.26 | goxboxlive | pH5, told me that it was oposite as power button on universal |
21:02.44 | goxboxlive | one of them send a reset or something he told me. |
21:03.14 | BabelO | ok |
21:03.37 | goxboxlive | I have done some commits to htcphone at xanadux |
21:04.08 | goxboxlive | If there are some ugly ones feel free to revert them. |
21:04.36 | BabelO | no problem, i can check as soo, as i can compile myself |
21:05.25 | goxboxlive | good. I have allmost the keyboard working for Universal now, just need to figure out [shift] to work properly |
21:05.52 | goxboxlive | Also buttons for menus in Qtopia |
21:06.27 | BabelO | ok, i m on holyday for one week, i can look at a lot of thing i hope |
21:06.46 | goxboxlive | But there is an issue i have with suspend/lcd off/lcd dim |
21:06.48 | goxboxlive | :-) |
21:07.23 | goxboxlive | In powermanagment there is three optipons under battery and AC |
21:08.09 | goxboxlive | its |
21:08.59 | goxboxlive | 1) Dim light 2) lcd off and suspend* (suspend will appear if you add Hardware.conf to the device folder) |
21:09.12 | goxboxlive | But for me it seems like it suspends no mather what. |
21:09.39 | BabelO | ok, you learn me something ;) |
21:09.55 | goxboxlive | i van commit the file |
21:10.55 | goxboxlive | It ssem like display off is working now,hmm |
21:11.20 | goxboxlive | But anyway, anothe thing that does not work is the AC/Battery detection. Do you know why? |
21:11.47 | BabelO | yes i think |
21:12.02 | goxboxlive | why? |
21:13.25 | BabelO | i think we have to create an switch event for ac/battery plug, headphone plug and also cover open for you ;) and also same line as for speakerphone in htcphonehardware.cpp |
21:14.24 | goxboxlive | ok |
21:14.33 | goxboxlive | is it complex? |
21:14.59 | BabelO | hum, you have already event for light sensor on universal ? |
21:16.02 | BabelO | you can look at greephone hardware.cpp they look at an ioctl dev and do same thing |
21:16.47 | goxboxlive | BabelO, hmm ok intresting |
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21:18.13 | BabelO | interesting, two cr2 ;) |
21:20.03 | cr2_ | yeah, it's the notebook running 3 X servers :) |
21:20.50 | cr2_ | BabelO: if you add the $STAGING links to the qtopia-extra, then the host binaries are confused. |
21:21.15 | cr2_ | i've solved the problem by manually editing the makefiles for uic,rcc and moc. |
21:22.12 | BabelO | cr2_: thanks, i ve doing same thing first time... but it failed after this three tools |
21:23.56 | BabelO | i try also to add -language for de_DE and fr_FR, but then all switch after this line failed |
21:24.01 | cr2_ | then your configure is incorrect. |
21:24.29 | cr2_ | it adds some locales even if not asked for. |
21:24.31 | BabelO | cr2_: yes, sure... i try to configure again with your tips |
21:24.48 | cr2_ | post your configure |
21:25.04 | cr2_ | i have -xplatform htcphone too |
21:25.24 | BabelO | i just change my qmake.conf in mkspecs directory |
21:26.31 | BabelO | cr2_: http://pastebin.ca/596314 |
21:28.20 | cr2_ | -I/local/OE/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include |
21:28.21 | cr2_ | -L/local/OE/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib |
21:28.21 | cr2_ | -I/usr/local/arm/include |
21:28.29 | cr2_ | i don't have these. |
21:28.43 | cr2_ | but have |
21:28.45 | cr2_ | -extra-qtopiacore-config "-I/local/OE/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include" |
21:28.55 | cr2_ | -extra-qtopiacore-config "-L/local/OE/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib" |
21:29.13 | BabelO | really ? ok then doing like you :) |
21:29.26 | cr2_ | -dbus -dbuspath /local/OE/tmp/rootfs/usr |
21:29.35 | cr2_ | this points for staging/ too |
21:30.04 | BabelO | cr2_: have problems with dbus detect |
21:31.01 | BabelO | cr2_: you poitn dbuspath to where ? /local/OE/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi |
21:35.02 | cr2_ | let me have a look. |
21:35.36 | BabelO | alsa failed now |
21:36.29 | BabelO | ok it is me, i made a mistake in include path |
21:36.36 | cr2_ | yes, to staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi |
21:36.51 | BabelO | thanks |
21:37.02 | cr2_ | do you have respective libs and includes in staging/ ? |
21:37.09 | BabelO | yes |
21:37.11 | cr2_ | ok. |
21:37.28 | BabelO | i build a console image before |
21:38.45 | BabelO | cr2_: you are not driving to italia this weekend ? |
21:39.02 | cr2_ | yes, tomorrow. |
21:39.18 | BabelO | ok, long road ;( |
21:40.09 | cr2_ | 1300km |
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21:41.14 | BabelO | dbus detect failed ans alsa too |
21:42.30 | cr2_ | strange. |
21:43.02 | cr2_ | but since the files are there, then it's some configure/makefile weirdness. |
21:43.31 | cr2_ | Keizer: what is your kernel target in OE ? |
22:05.06 | goxboxlive | BabelO, hasent dbus and alsa some other names in OE ? Like dbus-1.so vs. dbus.so and libasound.so and so? |
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22:05.50 | BabelO | goxboxlive: already renamed since a while ;) |
22:06.01 | goxboxlive | ok :-) |
22:21.47 | Keizer | cr2_: Target machine? |
22:24.37 | cr2_ | Keizer: yes. you are missing the kernel headers. |
22:24.42 | cr2_ | asm/*.h |
22:34.50 | Keizer | Ah snap |
22:34.54 | Keizer | Where do I get those? |
22:36.30 | cr2_ | can you compile for the universal ? |
22:40.01 | Keizer | cr2_: I dunno |
22:40.01 | Keizer | I have an HTCApache |
22:43.17 | cr2_ | how are you compiling the kernel ? |
22:43.47 | Keizer | I compiled it by downloading from source |
22:43.55 | Keizer | CVS checkout from handhelds site |
22:44.03 | cr2_ | and in the OE ? |
22:44.42 | Keizer | I used the Familiar OE |
22:46.19 | cr2_ | ok, then i don't know. |
22:46.50 | cr2_ | imho you should use angstrom. |
22:55.33 | Keizer | cr2_: I think that's what I will do next |