| 00:02.35 | donn | on the version 0.4.9. happens nothing |
| 00:02.44 | donn | but that says nothing |
| 00:02.50 | donn | my pocket pc is a little bit different. |
| 00:02.54 | donn | i think it comes from another planet |
| 00:03.05 | donn | nobody has problems..only the guys with my one |
| 00:03.15 | donn | its the same like the qtek s200 |
| 00:04.13 | Kevin2 | I'm confused. cr2 uploaded a haret for you. If you run "boot" in that haret, do you get any messages? Does it hang? Does it write to the screen? |
| 00:04.28 | donn | no, nothing happens |
| 00:04.37 | donn | wait, i will paste the default.txt |
| 00:05.38 | donn | http://nopaste.php-q.net/300692 |
| 00:06.43 | donn | aah, it works |
| 00:06.53 | donn | yes, it works :) |
| 00:07.03 | donn | LinWizard 0.1.3 is started |
| 00:07.32 | donn | dont know if it is the only one which works, but there is a big problem with it |
| 00:07.38 | donn | many "distributions" hang |
| 00:07.46 | donn | while they are loaded |
| 00:20.11 | donn | @kevin2: do you know, why the usb0 device cannot be found by my computer? |
| 00:20.37 | Kevin2 | donn: No. I'd read up at the synce website. |
| 00:21.02 | donn | okay, thanks.. it worked for a week.. i didn't change something |
| 00:21.09 | donn | okay, thank you very very much for your help |
| 00:46.52 | donn | good night |
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| 07:43.48 | BabelO | hi |
| 07:44.21 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
| 07:53.02 | BabelO | pH5 : i ve done an opie image for BA, yesturday evening |
| 07:58.09 | pH5 | nice |
| 08:03.37 | BabelO | pH5 : do you try gpephone on your magician ? i see a bb file for it in OE |
| 08:04.54 | pH5 | BabelO: I tried once, but I gave up because there is no way to compile it with current gtk and I prefer hacking on gsmd over phoneserver. |
| 08:07.42 | BabelO | ok |
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| 08:11.33 | pH5 | are you going to give it a try? |
| 08:31.42 | BabelO | pH5 : : yes i think, i try it from universal image few times ago, but now can try again with OE image |
| 08:32.07 | pH5 | great |
| 08:33.05 | BabelO | i m not sure that all AT command are compatible |
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| 08:49.07 | _law_ | hi any tornado user here? |
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| 08:57.38 | cr2_ | _law_: only other omap850 users |
| 08:58.06 | _law_ | cr2_, any news in the last week? |
| 08:58.20 | _law_ | s/week/weeks |
| 08:58.46 | cr2_ | no, there is no working SD still |
| 08:59.51 | _law_ | cr2_, with kernel 2.6.21 ? |
| 09:00.10 | _law_ | cr2_, with 2.6.16 i can boot from sd (with haret) |
| 09:00.55 | cr2_ | i mean other omap850 phones. |
| 09:02.25 | cr2_ | the tornado hw description is a bit sparse. |
| 09:13.42 | BabelO | cr2_ : hi |
| 09:13.51 | cr2_ | hi BabelO |
| 09:14.04 | BabelO | cr2_ : is there a size limit for our SD card under linux ? |
| 09:14.41 | cr2_ | some 2GB cards work, i think there was somebody with a working 4GB card. |
| 09:15.18 | cr2_ | >1GB depends on the card, if it is happy with switching to 512byte block mode |
| 09:15.59 | cr2_ | it is against the specs (which nobody knows :) to be unhappy, but that happens. |
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| 09:22.48 | BabelO | ok, yesturday, some one want to test my opie image on his BA with a 4GB sd card |
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| 09:31.52 | goxboxlive | pH5, are you here? |
| 09:32.01 | pH5 | hallelujah, I just completely booted into GPE from the htc bootloader. bad thing is, it just worked with a freshly built kernel. no idea why it hung before. |
| 09:32.27 | pH5 | goxboxlive: yes :) |
| 09:33.03 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 09:33.04 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 09:33.27 | goxboxlive | wow thats that great |
| 09:33.43 | goxboxlive | pH5, i still have some problems with gsmd |
| 09:34.05 | goxboxlive | I tried out the one we hacked on last time, but it doesnt work quite well |
| 09:34.47 | goxboxlive | So i tried to build from the svn again, with some minor configuration. But the failue is the same as with the source we tried out last time |
| 09:34.58 | goxboxlive | the one we added the "wait" stuff. |
| 09:35.05 | goxboxlive | Here is the patebin |
| 09:35.08 | goxboxlive | http://pastebin.no/2014 |
| 09:35.17 | goxboxlive | And here is my svn diff |
| 09:36.09 | goxboxlive | http://pastebin.no/2015 |
| 09:37.44 | pH5 | goxboxlive: sorry, phone. I'll be back in 10min. that is our old V1 vs V0 issue.. |
| 09:38.21 | goxboxlive | ok, hmm why isent that added yet to the source? |
| 09:43.17 | donn | hi ph5: i have a short question |
| 09:43.32 | donn | yesterday i found thanks to kevin the bits of the sd card |
| 09:43.35 | donn | or the sd controller |
| 09:43.54 | donn | do you know what I have to do, to have access to the sd controller via my running linux distribution on the pocket pc? |
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| 09:57.36 | pH5 | hi donn. the pins? I guess you'll have to fill in the board specific omap_mmc_conf structure with the pin numbers to use the omap.c mmc driver. |
| 09:58.18 | Donn[AwayFor3Hou | ? ehm, i didn't understood something... sry :( |
| 09:58.34 | Donn[AwayFor3Hou | GPIO 34 and GPIO 126 are my SD card detect |
| 09:59.54 | Donn[AwayFor3Hou | @ph5: i am back in a few minutes... i hope the irc application don't exists itself during this time |
| 10:00.48 | pH5 | donn: ok. only one of them is card detect. one pin should be sd power, and one sd irq. |
| 10:01.26 | pH5 | goxboxlive: also the wait-before-starting-the-alive-thread patch isn't in yet. i sent it to the gsmd-devel list. |
| 10:02.11 | pH5 | http://en.pastebin.ca/561050 this one |
| 10:02.49 | pH5 | it seems LaF0rge is too busy to even look at them, currently :( |
| 10:17.32 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 10:45.11 | goxboxlive | pH5, same result. But i'll be back later. Need to have this working now. Anyway, here is my svn diff. Do i miss soemthing? http://en.pastebin.ca/561112 |
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| 11:00.56 | pH5 | :( |
| 11:01.43 | pH5 | goxboxlive: can you try this patch for vendor_qc: http://en.pastebin.ca/561152 |
| 11:09.39 | pH5 | ~botmail goxboxlive can you try this patch for vendor_qc: http://en.pastebin.ca/561152 |
| 11:22.44 | pH5 | hmm, resume through wince doesn't work when I didn't boot linux from wince. |
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| 11:57.00 | kiozen | cr2 ? |
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| 12:26.28 | goxboxlive | pH5, it failes compiling with your latest patch. |
| 12:26.49 | goxboxlive | It says that undeclared GSMD_FLAGS_V0 f |
| 12:26.55 | goxboxlive | first use in this function |
| 12:28.38 | pH5 | ugh. is this r2180? |
| 12:28.49 | pH5 | NOTE: package libgsmd-0.0+svn20070612: completed |
| 12:29.43 | goxboxlive | pH5, r2216 |
| 12:29.48 | pH5 | wait, that should be GSMD_FLAG_V0. |
| 12:29.59 | goxboxlive | ok :-) |
| 12:30.53 | pH5 | heh, no wonder it didn't complain. I just forgot to add the patch to the .bb |
| 12:31.52 | goxboxlive | now it only failes with |
| 12:32.06 | goxboxlive | pH5, gsmd first use in this function |
| 12:32.07 | pH5 | http://en.pastebin.ca/561340 |
| 12:32.12 | goxboxlive | hold i can pastebin |
| 12:32.14 | pH5 | s/gsmd/g/ |
| 12:32.17 | pH5 | sorry about that. |
| 12:32.23 | pH5 | now it compiles |
| 12:32.33 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 12:32.35 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 12:33.45 | cr2_ | kiozen: running here and there ;) |
| 12:33.51 | kiozen | yup |
| 12:33.57 | kiozen | write a summary |
| 12:34.09 | cr2_ | for what ? |
| 12:34.19 | goxboxlive | pH5, yes now it compiled, testing |
| 12:34.30 | kiozen | the stuff we did on the 10th June |
| 12:34.34 | cr2_ | i do so many things simultaneously. |
| 12:34.59 | cr2_ | hmm. DHDN -> mercator ? |
| 12:35.01 | kiozen | the gdalwrapper stuff on the Topo10 tile |
| 12:35.04 | kiozen | yes |
| 12:35.34 | kiozen | what about libtiff? |
| 12:35.45 | cr2_ | yesterday i've sorted out tiles+deflate+overview. |
| 12:35.51 | cr2_ | libtiff is part of gdal |
| 12:36.14 | kiozen | how does it load compressed images |
| 12:36.15 | goxboxlive | pH5, still the same stupid result: Here's the pastebin: http://en.pastebin.ca/561342 |
| 12:36.15 | kiozen | are the tiles compressed |
| 12:36.17 | kiozen | or the complete image at once |
| 12:36.20 | pH5 | damn |
| 12:36.48 | goxboxlive | And here is my svn diff: http://en.pastebin.ca/561344 |
| 12:36.53 | cr2_ | kiozen: yes. but it's handled by RasterIO(), so it's not your business. read the docs for RasterIO |
| 12:37.13 | kiozen | gdal is 7MB of lib |
| 12:37.29 | kiozen | if we want anything slick we have to get rid of overhead |
| 12:37.31 | cr2_ | kiozen: you can pick out tiles yourself too. the major point is to let libgdal do it for it. the docs are good. |
| 12:37.54 | cr2_ | kiozen: then it's better to use ozf2 |
| 12:37.54 | goxboxlive | pH5, should i try to add the wait stuff again and see if it will hwlp |
| 12:38.02 | kiozen | second tele |
| 12:38.02 | goxboxlive | s/hwlp/help/ |
| 12:38.28 | cr2_ | ozf2 depends only on zlib. |
| 12:38.45 | cr2_ | and i guess zlib is always there. |
| 12:39.25 | pH5 | goxboxlive: did you forget to upload the plugins? this looks like it still tries to talk to the modem without waiting for the interpreter. |
| 12:39.33 | cr2_ | i need to check if the overview scheme of ozf2 is compatible with gdal. |
| 12:39.50 | kiozen | still on the phone .. |
| 12:39.55 | goxboxlive | pH5, of course i did, i only installed gsmd |
| 12:39.57 | goxboxlive | sorry |
| 12:40.43 | cr2_ | tsdogs: hit 2 more bugs in roadmap. one of them is yours. |
| 12:42.22 | goxboxlive | pH5, it still the same, the same result. Seems like it doesnt noticed that the ATE0V1 has changed. |
| 12:44.03 | pH5 | what I don't get is why it tries to push stuff to the modem before the "AT-Command ..." message is received. |
| 12:44.27 | pH5 | in your svn diff you can clearly see that in gsmd.c it only calls gsmd_initsettings and gsmd_alive_start if the interpreter_ready variable is true. |
| 12:45.51 | kiozen | ok back from phone |
| 12:46.23 | kiozen | but if oz2 is zipped over the complete file |
| 12:46.47 | kiozen | one has to load it uncompressed into memory |
| 12:47.00 | kiozen | or does it zip on per tile base? |
| 12:47.12 | kiozen | cr2 ? |
| 12:48.00 | goxboxlive | hold on |
| 12:51.12 | kiozen | cr2: If you say RasterIO you mean GDALRasterBand::RasterIO(), don't you? |
| 12:53.05 | tsdogs | cr2_: :) possible. |
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| 12:57.26 | cr2_ | kiozen: zip per tile |
| 12:57.52 | cr2_ | kiozen: GDALRasterBand::RasterIO() and friends. |
| 12:57.58 | kiozen | ack |
| 12:58.36 | cr2_ | either the standards, or the raw performance |
| 12:59.09 | kiozen | yes, read the doc |
| 12:59.10 | cr2_ | implement both, and dlopen() on libgdal. |
| 12:59.17 | pH5 | bbl |
| 12:59.49 | cr2_ | to avoid package dependencies. |
| 13:00.33 | kiozen | ok |
| 13:01.51 | cr2_ | kiozen: http://www.gdal.org/gdal_tutorial.html and the embedded links. |
| 13:03.51 | kiozen | yes, got it |
| 13:04.02 | kiozen | trying out your gdaladdo stuff |
| 13:04.24 | cr2_ | gdal overviews have hadcoded tile size of 128x128 |
| 13:04.37 | cr2_ | that's why i used 128x128 for the main image too. |
| 13:05.00 | cr2_ | this can be changed, but requires a libgdal recompilation. |
| 13:08.23 | kiozen | cr2: thus where goes the overview output? |
| 13:10.17 | kiozen | ah looks like it's stored in the file |
| 13:30.22 | cr2_ | kiozen: everything is in one file. all tiles and georef data |
| 13:30.58 | kiozen | qgis shows the levels in the pyramide view |
| 13:34.02 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 13:34.56 | kiozen | I pressed the button and now the GUI is dead and qgis is working :) |
| 13:35.19 | cr2_ | for building the overviews ? |
| 13:35.52 | cr2_ | i wish there are progress bars for certain operations. |
| 13:35.54 | kiozen | eigenschaften->pyramiden->erstelle pyramiden |
| 13:35.57 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 13:36.17 | cr2_ | but you have already done it with 'gdaladdo' ? |
| 13:36.30 | kiozen | yes |
| 13:36.45 | cr2_ | no need to do it again. |
| 13:36.57 | kiozen | qgis takes ages |
| 13:37.01 | kiozen | it's still working |
| 13:37.23 | kiozen | I abort |
| 13:37.44 | cr2_ | it seems you can generate any overviews, but gdaladdo lets you create only the "binary" ones. 2 3 4 5... |
| 13:38.21 | cr2_ | ozf docs say the 90% 80% and so on are used to make plotting smooth. |
| 13:38.44 | cr2_ | don't know how useful is that. |
| 13:39.15 | kiozen | hm, a file with overviews still looks lousy when zoomed out |
| 13:39.36 | kiozen | is there a way to tell it to keep dark lines? |
| 13:39.53 | kiozen | I know, not very scientific :) |
| 13:40.44 | cr2_ | it seems that you want to create your overviews in gimp :) |
| 13:41.23 | kiozen | I just want to recognize streets in the overview:) |
| 13:41.41 | cr2_ | it's an endless game. you can try to optimize your palette. |
| 13:42.05 | cr2_ | i don't know how overview build process interpolates paletted images. |
| 13:42.06 | tsdogs | cr2_: should I be able to open the geotiff we created with qgis ? |
| 13:42.39 | cr2_ | tsdogs: sure. it may be the main purpose of the whole excersize :) |
| 13:43.19 | cr2_ | so you can overlay any georeferenced data, tracks, other maps, whatever. |
| 13:43.29 | cr2_ | transparently. |
| 13:47.42 | kiozen | hm just for that single tile I use there is no real difference between the one w and w/o overviews |
| 13:51.40 | cr2_ | kiozen: for a 40000x40000 image there will be some difference :) |
| 13:52.08 | kiozen | still wait on these Topo10 |
| 13:52.15 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 13:52.20 | kiozen | hope they manage befor my vacations |
| 13:52.49 | cr2_ | i think the USGS has defined some standard palette. |
| 13:53.36 | tsdogs | cr2_: what were the bugs? |
| 13:53.47 | tsdogs | s/were/are/ |
| 13:53.51 | cr2_ | http://topomaps.usgs.gov/drg/drg_overview.html |
| 13:54.32 | cr2_ | tsdogs: one is the FPE in roadmap_math.c (it's a generic bug) |
| 13:54.56 | cr2_ | the second one... looking for it. |
| 13:55.46 | cr2_ | i need to compile qt4 on alpha. the bug was in qt3 roadmap_editor. |
| 13:56.29 | tsdogs | cr2_: missing functions? |
| 13:57.28 | cr2_ | no. missing functions are for the main branch. |
| 13:57.55 | cr2_ | kiozen: TIFFBuildOverviews() supports progress indicator. so it's qgis fault. |
| 13:58.06 | cr2_ | for not plotting it. |
| 13:58.41 | kiozen | It looks more like some hickup while makeing the layers |
| 13:59.00 | kiozen | the event loop is totaly blocked |
| 13:59.17 | kiozen | and it takes too long |
| 13:59.53 | kiozen | gdaladdo does it in seconds, qgis wasn't done after minutes |
| 14:00.08 | cr2_ | seems like a bug. |
| 14:00.25 | kiozen | I didn't want to use that harsh word :) |
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| 14:02.04 | cr2_ | tsdogs: Entry::getValue() (this=0x1202326c0) at qt_dialog.cc:324 |
| 14:02.30 | cr2_ | 322 |
| 14:02.30 | cr2_ | 323 case ListEntry: |
| 14:02.30 | cr2_ | 324 ret = items[((QListBox*) widget)->currentItem()]->value; |
| 14:02.30 | cr2_ | 325 break; |
| 14:02.40 | cr2_ | segfault. |
| 14:03.23 | tsdogs | in qt3? |
| 14:03.26 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 14:04.58 | tsdogs | probably the currentItem() returns -1 |
| 14:05.44 | kiozen | howto handle multiple files. Is there anything in the logs |
| 14:06.43 | cr2_ | tsdogs: maybe. |
| 14:07.00 | cr2_ | kiozen: where ? |
| 14:07.11 | kiozen | just asking |
| 14:08.28 | cr2_ | multiple geotiff files ? |
| 14:08.48 | kiozen | yes |
| 14:09.00 | cr2_ | having .tfw is enough |
| 14:09.11 | cr2_ | then you can use 'gdal_merge.py' |
| 14:09.19 | cr2_ | or gdalwarp |
| 14:09.31 | kiozen | thus you make one big blob like Garmin :) |
| 14:09.37 | cr2_ | gdalwarp file1 file2 file3 ... fileout |
| 14:09.40 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 14:09.52 | cr2_ | gmapsupp |
| 14:10.07 | tsdogs | cr2_: I'm still getting this from qgis: ERROR 4: `./maps/mapgeo.tif' not recognised as a supported file format. |
| 14:11.22 | cr2_ | gdalinfo ./maps/mapgeo.tif ? |
| 14:11.48 | cr2_ | ERROR 4 comes from gdal |
| 14:12.03 | tsdogs | hmm |
| 14:12.22 | cr2_ | send me the file. if it's not too big for the mail system. |
| 14:14.33 | tsdogs | cr2_: on it's way (800Kb) |
| 14:16.08 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 14:20.10 | cr2_ | kiozen: 13 colors http://rockyweb.cr.usgs.gov/nmpstds/acrodocs/drg_temp/2drg0401.pdf |
| 14:26.36 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok it was gdal. |
| 14:32.08 | cr2_ | tsdogs: works for me. the openstreetmap data lies good on 2 streets. |
| 14:33.54 | tsdogs | cr2_: which one did U use from openSM ? |
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| 14:36.49 | cr2_ | converted into shapefile april dump. |
| 14:38.05 | cr2_ | distributing >4GB XML is a very strange decision. |
| 14:38.40 | cr2_ | i strongly dislike the tech side of osm. |
| 14:39.38 | kiozen | Why, XML must be greate, because it's used everywhere :) |
| 14:39.39 | cr2_ | but contribute a lot anyway. having a centralized repository is good. |
| 14:40.12 | cr2_ | java on trails ;) |
| 14:41.01 | kiozen | I had my share of XML while implementing GPX support |
| 14:41.30 | cr2_ | i usually use gpx2shp |
| 14:41.34 | cr2_ | for qgis. |
| 14:41.47 | cr2_ | compare the speed and make your conclusions :) |
| 14:42.12 | cr2_ | on the tracks with 1-2 million of points. |
| 14:42.31 | kiozen | Yes and why on earth do I use a tag structure |
| 14:42.55 | kiozen | but request elements in a fixed order |
| 14:43.10 | kiozen | and Garmin even implemented it that way |
| 14:43.14 | cr2_ | there is no real tag structure. and it is sad. |
| 14:44.02 | kiozen | yep, XML is somehow like cancer |
| 14:44.03 | cr2_ | kiozen: is it possible to change tags without touching the geometry now ? |
| 14:44.15 | kiozen | huh? |
| 14:44.32 | kiozen | can't follow |
| 14:44.57 | cr2_ | for way 12345678 set tag="foo" val="bar" |
| 14:45.36 | cr2_ | you don't expect me to use some flush editor for the tags, do you ? |
| 14:45.46 | kiozen | which app/ XML are we talking about ? |
| 14:45.51 | cr2_ | OSM. |
| 14:46.02 | ellisway | afternoon all |
| 14:46.12 | kiozen | I talk about XML/GPX in QLandkarte :) |
| 14:46.16 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 14:46.21 | kiozen | never dealed with OSM |
| 14:46.37 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 14:46.50 | kiozen | just answering their constant requests :) |
| 14:46.51 | cr2_ | create a garmin data provider for qgis. |
| 14:47.03 | cr2_ | lol. |
| 14:47.50 | kiozen | hm, do we really want a thing like that? |
| 14:49.56 | cr2_ | no. |
| 14:50.13 | kiozen | does qgis have gpx support? |
| 14:50.14 | cr2_ | they will burn you for that ;) |
| 14:50.17 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 14:50.24 | cr2_ | as a plugin |
| 14:50.29 | kiozen | ah |
| 14:50.38 | cr2_ | the georeferencer is also a plugin. |
| 14:50.58 | cr2_ | btw, you can port a big chunk of qlandkarte as a qgis plugin. |
| 14:51.06 | kiozen | but not for reading gpx |
| 14:51.19 | cr2_ | maybe. |
| 14:51.44 | cr2_ | certainly for garmin communication. |
| 14:53.51 | kiozen | found gpx import |
| 14:54.12 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 14:54.28 | cr2_ | with 76CS pic |
| 14:54.37 | kiozen | :) |
| 14:55.35 | kiozen | they use gpsbabel |
| 14:55.47 | kiozen | thus no map up-/download |
| 14:56.05 | cr2_ | yes. libgpsbabel may have been an advantage. |
| 14:56.07 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 14:56.22 | kiozen | whom do you tell! |
| 14:56.27 | cr2_ | that's what i've meant for porting. |
| 14:56.31 | cr2_ | yeah. |
| 14:56.55 | kiozen | robert lipe's advantage is, that he has a huge collection of Garmin receivers |
| 14:57.09 | kiozen | thus he can easily test every feature |
| 14:57.16 | cr2_ | create a garmin plugin. |
| 14:57.19 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 14:57.48 | kiozen | I have to wait for feeback and participation of other unit owners |
| 14:57.58 | cr2_ | i still don't understand what is wrong with libgpsbabel.so for him. |
| 14:58.06 | cr2_ | i see. |
| 14:58.18 | kiozen | it's just the work to do it |
| 14:58.30 | kiozen | the interface isn't very clean, yet |
| 14:58.47 | kiozen | thus it takes some effort to clean up and make it a lib |
| 14:59.01 | cr2_ | i've 76Cx, but doubt that there is any difference between it and 76CSx and 60C(S)x |
| 14:59.04 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 14:59.26 | kiozen | the USB protocol has some other peculiaries |
| 14:59.34 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 14:59.41 | cr2_ | but it's the same firmware ? |
| 14:59.52 | kiozen | yes, it looks like |
| 15:00.17 | kiozen | but robert schiele reported some differences |
| 15:00.23 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 15:00.37 | kiozen | it's somewhere in the archive of Qlandkartes mailing list |
| 15:00.52 | cr2_ | i'll look later. |
| 15:01.03 | kiozen | wait I try to find |
| 15:01.14 | cr2_ | tsdogs: compiling qt4.3.0 on alpha. |
| 15:02.17 | cr2_ | i'll try linuxppc too. it seems that buildmap should have a '-swap' switch. |
| 15:03.45 | kiozen | http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20070107010904.GA20449%40schiele.dyndns.org&forum_name=qlandkarte-users |
| 15:03.47 | cr2_ | tsdogs: it may be a good idea to disable the 'Qt 3 compatibility' in desktop qt4 version :) |
| 15:04.04 | kiozen | it's a difference between 76CS and 60SCx |
| 15:04.26 | cr2_ | kiozen: thanks. it seems i'd subscribe to te list. |
| 15:05.00 | kiozen | not much traffic, not much interesting stuff |
| 15:05.13 | cr2_ | kiozen: i meant 76CSx and 60CSx |
| 15:05.30 | tsdogs | cr2_: qt3 compatilibity should not already be there (?) |
| 15:05.42 | kiozen | yes I know, I didn't recall the mail correctly |
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| 15:06.48 | Ranpha1 | question if i have a free 256 SD card. I can try linux on my installed universal ? will it removes anything on the WinCe part? |
| 15:07.28 | cr2_ | Ranpha1: nothing is removed. i run off a 128MB card. |
| 15:07.42 | tsdogs | Ranpha1: you only need to repartition the SD card. |
| 15:08.12 | cr2_ | kiozen: the only way to increase a user base is to compile for windows. |
| 15:08.19 | cr2_ | tsdogs: not really. |
| 15:08.48 | kiozen | yes that's what I thought, too |
| 15:08.59 | tsdogs | cr2_: can U point me out where it is used? |
| 15:09.00 | kiozen | but I am too lazy to port it :) |
| 15:09.24 | Ranpha1 | mmmm this could be fun then. so it runs both wince and linux then? |
| 15:09.52 | cr2_ | kiozen: yeah. libusb. |
| 15:10.03 | kiozen | and for windows users it would be only interesting if it breaks the unlock code |
| 15:10.03 | tsdogs | Ranpha1: yes. |
| 15:10.14 | cr2_ | don't waste your time supporting windows :) |
| 15:10.31 | kiozen | that's what I thought, too |
| 15:10.33 | Ranpha1 | won't that be slow then?? running two OSes the same time? |
| 15:10.38 | cr2_ | tsdogs: what's used ? |
| 15:10.54 | cr2_ | Ranpha1: not an the same time. |
| 15:11.10 | cr2_ | s/an/at/ |
| 15:11.20 | cr2_ | s/an/at/g |
| 15:11.30 | Ranpha1 | lol |
| 15:11.35 | cr2_ | :) |
| 15:11.51 | Ranpha1 | so you have to reboot the whole device when exiting linux ? |
| 15:11.59 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 15:12.13 | Ranpha1 | okay one last question is it more stable then wince? |
| 15:12.19 | cr2_ | it's a soft reset in wince terms. |
| 15:12.35 | cr2_ | depends on the task. |
| 15:12.54 | cr2_ | if there is no phone app the stability does not mean much. |
| 15:13.30 | cr2_ | otherwise wince is not an OS at all, and relies on a programmers god will. |
| 15:13.38 | Ranpha1 | well considering it on desktop PC i can throw a rock to my debian systems and they keep working. I install windows one time on it it reboots five times does funny things etc..... |
| 15:14.18 | cr2_ | it's the same on the phone, but some apps are missing. like the phone ;) |
| 15:14.49 | Ranpha1 | cr2_ isn't there a phone app on gpe? and working a bit? |
| 15:15.03 | cr2_ | we are working on a gps app right now, so it'll become attractive on a user side. |
| 15:15.43 | cr2_ | many apps work 'a bit'. but i'll say they are less stable than on wince. |
| 15:15.54 | cr2_ | i mean phone apps. |
| 15:16.15 | cr2_ | openmoko, gpephone, gomunicator. |
| 15:16.36 | Ranpha1 | so htc linux is still more fun factor if i get things right |
| 15:17.12 | cr2_ | right now - yes. if you want to use it a debian server, then it's ok . |
| 15:17.46 | Ranpha1 | cr2_ as a debian server? well more like to run hydra and rtorrent :-) |
| 15:18.21 | cr2_ | over UMTS. sure. |
| 15:18.38 | Ranpha1 | cr2_ joker...what about wifi :-) umts is a bit expensive here |
| 15:18.51 | cr2_ | wifi works too. |
| 15:19.34 | Ranpha1 | so app work just like a apt install or do i need to compile everthing on the HTC? |
| 15:20.00 | cr2_ | there is an 'angstrom' distribution. |
| 15:20.17 | cr2_ | but if you are a debian hardliner, you can use debian-arm |
| 15:20.31 | Ranpha1 | mmmm well this could be a nice looking project for the holiday thanks i'm off now |
| 15:23.10 | kiozen | heading home, bye |
| 15:24.03 | Ranpha1 | or is there a way to see this angstrom dist? and the pckage precomplied |
| 15:25.23 | cr2_ | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org |
| 15:26.47 | cr2_ | if you just want to have a test image, take one made by goxboxlive |
| 15:26.58 | cr2_ | see the links on handhelds.org |
| 16:07.34 | Donn[AwayFor3Hou | hi cr2 |
| 16:07.35 | Donn[AwayFor3Hou | :) |
| 16:13.04 | don2k | hi :) |
| 16:13.06 | don2k | @cr2 |
| 16:13.09 | don2k | i have the bits |
| 16:13.14 | don2k | yipieh |
| 16:13.21 | don2k | I know whats resonsible for the sd card |
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| 16:51.37 | don2k | okay, i come back later |
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| 17:51.26 | tsdogs | cr2_: I meant were do I use qt3 support in qt4 port of roadmap_editor? |
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| 18:05.43 | goxboxlive | cr2_, Universal is draining battery while it is suspending. I left it for about 5 hours now, and the battery is 0% . The red led where activated and it wouldnt start. |
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| 18:11.32 | goxboxlive | ~botmail pH5 this is now my svn diff http://pastebin.no/2021 I am trying with your 'wait' stuff . Have to wait to test though, my battery is soaked. |
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| 20:07.36 | tre9 | I'm trying to run the blueangel kernel/modules with the HTC Universal image from gnulinux.biz. I think I need to have the proper modules load at boot. Do I need to generate a /etc/modules file? Anyone have one for BA? |
| 20:08.12 | BabelO | tre9 hi |
| 20:08.21 | BabelO | i have one if you want to test |
| 20:08.25 | tre9 | hi BabelO ! |
| 20:08.30 | tre9 | yes please! |
| 20:19.12 | BabelO | tre9: you have to take all file :) |
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| 20:30.06 | BabelO | goxboxlive: hi |
| 20:30.20 | BabelO | goxboxlive: is suspend working on universal running opie 1 ? |
| 20:30.35 | goxboxlive | BabelO, yes |
| 20:30.40 | BabelO | :( |
| 20:31.07 | goxboxlive | BabelO, but it's not commited to the source yet. tsdogs fixed it. Hold on and i'll check what it ws |
| 20:34.01 | goxboxlive | BabelO, line 166: http://pastebin.no/2033 |
| 20:36.39 | BabelO | goxboxlive: thanks, but it is only for button (no power button ) :( |
| 20:37.52 | goxboxlive | BabelO, ? what do you mean? When we removed that line the suspend icon worked (also power button though) |
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| 20:38.06 | goxboxlive | It didnt work before |
| 20:38.18 | BabelO | ok |
| 20:38.39 | ellisway | goxboxlive i wonder if u can help me trying to have a play about with the opie2 image thats on gnulinux.biz but i cant get the 2.6.21-hh3 kernel to boot any ideas ? |
| 20:39.13 | goxboxlive | ellisway, do you use the zImage in the boot folder? |
| 20:39.37 | ellisway | yes |
| 20:40.01 | goxboxlive | ok, i know cr2_ has had the same problem. Is it hanging at the init****** ? |
| 20:40.32 | ellisway | no mine hangs when it tries to mount the sd card basicly saying that it cant find a filesystem |
| 20:40.57 | ellisway | just running haret now so i can get the exact error |
| 20:42.04 | ellisway | kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(254,3) |
| 20:42.21 | goxboxlive | Yes i guess that's the same as cr2_ has. |
| 20:42.27 | BabelO | ellisway: try rootdelay parameter |
| 20:42.37 | ellisway | i have a rootdelay=5 |
| 20:42.50 | goxboxlive | ok, it's enough with only '1'1 |
| 20:42.51 | ellisway | i see it wait for the 5 seconds |
| 20:42.57 | goxboxlive | 1 sec |
| 20:43.23 | goxboxlive | try building your own kernel and aply it instead. Maybe that will work. |
| 20:43.36 | goxboxlive | BabelO, do you have a opieII image with working sound? |
| 20:44.01 | ellisway | before the panic it says vfs cannot open root deice "mmcblk03" or unknown-block(254,3) |
| 20:44.03 | goxboxlive | I want to test it on universal to see if it works on it too |
| 20:44.11 | BabelO | no working sound, like in opie 1 :( only playing music with mediaplayer |
| 20:44.20 | ellisway | oops |
| 20:44.22 | goxboxlive | BabelO, opie2 |
| 20:44.29 | ellisway | mmcblk0p3 |
| 20:44.45 | goxboxlive | yes i am using blk0p2 as SWAP |
| 20:44.54 | goxboxlive | change the fstab |
| 20:44.58 | goxboxlive | maybe that will help |
| 20:45.03 | ellisway | so am i |
| 20:45.10 | ellisway | p1 vfat |
| 20:45.12 | goxboxlive | ahh that's why cr2 never had it running |
| 20:45.14 | ellisway | p2 swap |
| 20:45.19 | ellisway | p3 rootfs |
| 20:45.23 | goxboxlive | ok, same as mine. |
| 20:45.33 | goxboxlive | have you changed fstab? |
| 20:45.40 | ellisway | nope |
| 20:45.53 | goxboxlive | you have to add swap partion to fstab |
| 20:45.54 | ellisway | i`ll reboot and start with the ramdisk image and change fstab |
| 20:46.10 | goxboxlive | ellisway, do you not have a linux computer? |
| 20:46.26 | ellisway | i dont have anything here thats fast |
| 20:46.35 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:46.38 | ellisway | all my fast stuff is colo`d |
| 20:47.11 | ellisway | fastest i have here that is running *nix is a via c3 500 |
| 20:47.35 | ellisway | with 128mb of ram and 8mb of that is taken by the onboard vga |
| 20:47.57 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:48.24 | ellisway | fastest i have colo`d is a dual 3.2 ghz xeon with hyperthreading |
| 20:49.12 | goxboxlive | BabelO, system sounds should work in opie(1) . The volume applet is buggy. Set all of the volume bars to the top and you'll see you will have system sound. |
| 20:49.15 | ellisway | just trying the opie2 image but with a older kernel |
| 20:49.32 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:49.32 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok |
| 20:49.34 | ellisway | same thing kernel panics |
| 20:49.46 | ellisway | reboot and go back in with the ramdisk |
| 20:50.27 | goxboxlive | ellisway, well i dont know what it might be. As i said also cr2_ have had some problem with it. But i have tried it out myself and it is running fine for me. |
| 20:50.40 | ellisway | k |
| 20:50.57 | goxboxlive | ellisway, test tsdogs opie2 image, maybe that will work |
| 20:51.26 | goxboxlive | ellisway, http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/opieII/ |
| 20:51.41 | ellisway | dont spose theres any major change in the haret startup.tt |
| 20:52.11 | ellisway | opieII-tsdogs-20070514.tar.bz2 / |
| 20:52.52 | goxboxlive | take the latest one. |
| 20:52.56 | ellisway | k |
| 20:55.44 | ellisway | hmm the fstab that is in the opie2 image of yours doesn`t look right |
| 20:57.57 | ellisway | hmm |
| 20:58.21 | ellisway | goxboxlive can you pastebin your current fstab for me please |
| 20:58.33 | goxboxlive | iam using the one in the opie2 image |
| 20:58.40 | ellisway | ok |
| 20:59.20 | goxboxlive | ellisway, http://pastebin.no/2036 |
| 21:01.16 | ellisway | k |
| 21:01.30 | ellisway | so how does the rootfs line work |
| 21:02.34 | ellisway | should i not have somthing along the lines of /dev/mmcblk0p3 / ext2 defaults 1 1 |
| 21:03.11 | goxboxlive | ?? |
| 21:03.52 | goxboxlive | ellisway, maybe i dont have ext2 support in the image |
| 21:03.57 | goxboxlive | i am allwayd using ext3 |
| 21:04.08 | goxboxlive | maybe that's why you cant mount it |
| 21:04.41 | ellisway | its only currently et2 because i thought that maybe the kernel was having issues with et3 |
| 21:05.04 | ellisway | so i reformated the card a couple of days back as ext2 |
| 21:05.21 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:05.40 | tsdogs | ellisway: the root= cmdline in startup.txt is doing the mount of the rootfs. |
| 21:05.59 | goxboxlive | yes thats right |
| 21:06.16 | ellisway | k thats set for /dev/mmcblk0p3 |
| 21:06.40 | tsdogs | ellisway: how big is the SD? |
| 21:07.12 | tsdogs | hi all btw |
| 21:07.28 | ellisway | 1gb |
| 21:08.03 | tsdogs | ok, you using linux or the phone to unpack the tar.bz2 ? |
| 21:08.19 | ellisway | the phone itself |
| 21:08.27 | ellisway | using the old ramdisk |
| 21:08.41 | tsdogs | you run many sync before unmounting ? |
| 21:08.42 | ellisway | the 2.6.12 ramdisk |
| 21:08.50 | ellisway | bout 5 |
| 21:08.57 | tsdogs | :) ok |
| 21:09.13 | ellisway | sync ; sync ; sync ; sleep 5 ; sync ; sync |
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| 21:09.52 | tsdogs | hmm, is ext2/ext3 built into the kernel? which one U using? |
| 21:09.53 | ellisway | k should i reformat the rootfs partition back as ext3 |
| 21:10.16 | ellisway | currently i have the rootfs partition as ext2 |
| 21:10.47 | tsdogs | unless U have ext2 built in to the kernel I think so. |
| 21:11.23 | ellisway | k |
| 21:11.27 | tsdogs | btw, you are mounting the sd card with the 2.6.12 kernel. so I suppose the ext2 is builded into it |
| 21:11.30 | ellisway | formatting the partition now |
| 21:11.38 | ellisway | yeh |
| 21:12.09 | tsdogs | you could try booting with that kernel. just to see if it works. |
| 21:12.19 | ellisway | i only reformated the card as ext2 because i wasn`t sure if the kernel was having issues with ext3 |
| 21:12.54 | ellisway | well i`ve just finished formatting as ext3 gotta extract the tarball to the new partition |
| 21:13.37 | tsdogs | ok. check the kernel modules too. |
| 21:14.50 | ellisway | what do u mean by check make sure they are all there and for the correct kernel version ? |
| 21:15.02 | tsdogs | yep |
| 21:15.08 | ellisway | k |
| 21:15.27 | ellisway | still copying the tarball to the et3 partition atm |
| 21:15.28 | tsdogs | should boot anyway, but then you'd miss other devices (usb, and so on) |
| 21:15.35 | ellisway | yeh |
| 21:15.44 | ellisway | and atm it doesn`t get that far |
| 21:16.45 | ellisway | gets as far as detecting the partitions on the sdcard |
| 21:17.02 | ellisway | then i get vfs cannot open root device "mmcblk03" or unknown-block(254,3) |
| 21:17.41 | tsdogs | hmm, that should be mmcblk0p3 |
| 21:18.03 | tsdogs | but I see you got it right before. :) |
| 21:18.30 | ellisway | ;) |
| 21:18.32 | goxboxlive | ellisway, there is a work around |
| 21:18.59 | ellisway | i`ll check the haret startup file b4 i try and boot again but i`m fairly sure it is correct |
| 21:19.19 | tsdogs | ellisway: is it an Universal? |
| 21:19.25 | ellisway | yeh |
| 21:19.40 | ellisway | tmobile badged |
| 21:19.48 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: what do you mean? |
| 21:19.51 | goxboxlive | ellisway, take a opie image, delete the /opt folder. Copy the /opt folder from the opie2 image to the opie-image |
| 21:20.33 | goxboxlive | and then it should boot. It's not a nice why, but it should be good enough to just start opie2 and play with it |
| 21:20.33 | tsdogs | ho ok |
| 21:20.48 | goxboxlive | also remember to remove the /etc/init.d/opie file |
| 21:20.52 | ellisway | i`ll see what happens in a few mins |
| 21:20.59 | ellisway | still waiting on the bunzip2 |
| 21:21.41 | goxboxlive | copy the startup scripts i have added in the /home/root folder in the opie2 iamge over to your new merged image. |
| 21:21.41 | ellisway | on another note i have now got myself a bluetooth gps receiver |
| 21:21.47 | tsdogs | ellisway: if U using my image, there is a script to start it in the /home/root folder. I think it won't boot automatically |
| 21:21.57 | goxboxlive | I have never tried it myself before, but i cant see that it wouldnt work. |
| 21:22.12 | ellisway | k |
| 21:22.16 | ellisway | bunzip2 finished |
| 21:28.07 | ellisway | ok finished etracting and i`ve added swap to the fstab rebooting back to wince now |
| 21:30.04 | ellisway | reboot again because the ts and keyboard arnt working after the reboot from the ramdisk |
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| 21:31.19 | ellisway | i`m fairly sure i`ve said about that happening in the past |
| 21:38.18 | ellisway | still get the same kernel panic |
| 21:38.30 | goxboxlive | hmm strange |
| 21:39.07 | goxboxlive | well it's getting late. night all |
| 21:39.24 | ellisway | night m8 |
| 21:43.16 | tsdogs | ellisway: can U try with ramdisk kernel? |
| 21:44.27 | ellisway | 1 sec will try now |
| 21:45.48 | tsdogs | ellisway: the panix is for the rootfs or for the init? |
| 21:46.15 | ellisway | rootfs |
| 21:46.19 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:46.54 | ellisway | ramdisk kernel looks like it wants to boot |
| 21:47.36 | ellisway | gets to freeing init memory |
| 21:47.45 | ellisway | but doesn`t do anything after that |
| 21:47.50 | ellisway | no panic |
| 21:49.01 | ellisway | but just sits there doing nothing |
| 21:49.37 | ellisway | so looks like its definantly a kernel issue of some description |
| 21:50.20 | tsdogs | hmm, opie image booted ? |
| 21:50.28 | ellisway | nope |
| 21:50.36 | ellisway | it doesn`t finish booting |
| 21:50.45 | tsdogs | WM5? |
| 21:50.54 | ellisway | its like the ramdisk kernel is still looking for stuff from the rd itself |
| 21:51.24 | ellisway | do u have a zImage i could try |
| 21:51.30 | tsdogs | wait. |
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| 21:57.31 | tsdogs | ellisway: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/zImage-2.6.21-hh5_cvs20070528 |
| 21:57.54 | tsdogs | http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/modules_2.6,21-hh5_cvs20070528.tar.bz2 |
| 21:58.18 | tsdogs | this is the latest I built with OE |
| 21:58.27 | tsdogs | it won't look pretty :) |
| 21:58.44 | ellisway | k |
| 21:59.02 | ellisway | i just tried with a 2.6.20 kernel and it seems to be booting |
| 21:59.49 | ellisway | yeh 2.6.20 boots |
| 22:00.06 | ellisway | but opie fails to start because of missing kernel modules |
| 22:00.17 | ellisway | as far as i can tell |
| 22:00.36 | ellisway | just rebooting so i can put your kernel / modules onto the sdcard |
| 22:00.55 | tsdogs | U can keep multiple kernels :) |
| 22:04.59 | ellisway | ok your kernel boots |
| 22:05.32 | tsdogs | did U change anything with startup.txt when using 2.6.20 ? |
| 22:06.46 | ellisway | only the zimage name |
| 22:07.20 | tsdogs | hmm then it must be something from the kernel you had |
| 22:07.25 | ellisway | k gotta reboot now that i hae put the modules in |
| 22:07.47 | ellisway | which is the kernel from goxboxlives opie2 image |
| 22:08.18 | ellisway | 2.6.21-hh3 |
| 22:08.47 | tsdogs | If U can U should try using goxboxlive kernel. :) |
| 22:08.48 | ellisway | your kernel is hh5 and works thats a good start |
| 22:09.03 | tsdogs | 2.6.21-hh3 should work too. |
| 22:09.19 | ellisway | can u try it on your deice and see if you manage to boot it ok |
| 22:09.39 | tsdogs | ok, where do I get it? |
| 22:09.46 | ellisway | 1 sec |
| 22:11.00 | ellisway | http://gnulinux.biz/files/Universal/sd-mmc/snapshot/OpieII%20(Qtopia)/opie2.tar.bz2 |
| 22:12.03 | cr2_ | tsdogs: a dula opteron is a bit faster than 10 years old alpha. qt4 compilation finished :) |
| 22:12.27 | tsdogs | whow :) still it finished |
| 22:13.24 | cr2_ | i'll try linuxppc. on the notebook. maybe tomorrow it will finish. if will not burn :) |
| 22:13.57 | ellisway | ok i have a console login |
| 22:14.10 | ellisway | but i dont think opie2 is starting by default |
| 22:15.22 | tsdogs | cr2_: lol |
| 22:15.50 | tsdogs | nope, there should be a script to start it in /home/root |
| 22:15.56 | tsdogs | something like opieII or so |
| 22:16.12 | cr2_ | tsdogs: i've compiled roadmap_editor qt3 on linuxppc. it does not work because the byteswapped maps. alpha is little-endian. |
| 22:16.36 | ellisway | ah i`m missing gnokii |
| 22:17.03 | tsdogs | maybe we should use socket functions to hanlde variables |
| 22:17.34 | tsdogs | ellisway: I think U should use goxboxlive release, it's newer, and probably more tested. |
| 22:17.59 | ellisway | this is with goxboxlie`s image |
| 22:18.05 | ellisway | but with your kernel and modules |
| 22:18.12 | tsdogs | ha ok |
| 22:18.30 | tsdogs | goxboxlive sayd something about boot scripts he provided... |
| 22:18.32 | ellisway | now then where to get my hands on a copy of libgnokii |
| 22:19.21 | tsdogs | hmm. wait |
| 22:19.59 | ellisway | is it just the libgnokii.so.3 that i need |
| 22:21.15 | tsdogs | http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/opieII/libgnokii.tar.bz2 |
| 22:21.39 | tsdogs | it also contains libusb dunno if it's needed or not |
| 22:22.52 | ellisway | k |
| 22:23.07 | ellisway | i found the libgnokii on gnulinux |
| 22:23.21 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:23.47 | tsdogs | this one should support HTC phones. it's from BabelO |
| 22:24.00 | ellisway | k |
| 22:27.49 | tsdogs | ellisway: I tryed goxboxlive zImage, and it boots. |
| 22:28.31 | tsdogs | :) opie started even without modules |
| 22:31.43 | cr2_ | hmm. no postgres on alpha. |
| 22:33.13 | cr2_ | i love alpha because there is no lib64 stupidity. |
| 22:33.26 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:34.21 | tsdogs | this make think that I have an Ultra60 somewhere at the office. :) |
| 22:35.22 | cr2_ | does not start for some reason. |
| 22:35.33 | ellisway | hmm |
| 22:35.36 | ellisway | weird |
| 22:36.03 | cr2_ | hangs here : sigsuspend(~[HUP INT QUIT ILL ABRT SYS USR1 USR2] |
| 22:37.11 | cr2_ | rather old redhat-7.2 |
| 22:37.57 | tsdogs | cr2_: probably some glibc incompatibility |
| 22:38.01 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.01 | cr2_ | #7 0x20000140994 in QResourceFileEngine::supportsExtension(QAbstractFileEngine::Extension) const () |
| 22:38.01 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.01 | cr2_ | #8 0x20000140a04 in qInitResourceIO() () from /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.3.0/lib/libQtCore.so.4 |
| 22:38.10 | cr2_ | libpthread |
| 22:38.13 | cr2_ | probably. |
| 22:38.41 | ellisway | tsdogs where should i put libgnokii ? |
| 22:38.49 | cr2_ | Linux wpos20 2.4.9-32custom #1 Wed Oct 8 18:25:57 CET 2070 alpha unknown |
| 22:39.03 | tsdogs | ellisway: /usr/local/lib |
| 22:39.07 | ellisway | k |
| 22:39.20 | tsdogs | or /usr/lib |
| 22:39.34 | tsdogs | check the /etc/ld.conf.so |
| 22:39.47 | tsdogs | s/conf.so/so.conf/ |
| 22:39.51 | cr2_ | tsdogs: may be the kernel, too. need to compile 2.6.21 |
| 22:40.14 | tsdogs | :) will it boot? is alpha still supported? |
| 22:41.06 | cr2_ | why not. |
| 22:41.09 | ellisway | it flashed on screen and died with a segmentation fault |
| 22:41.23 | cr2_ | the kernel compiles. qt3 version works. |
| 22:41.56 | cr2_ | started compilation on linuxppc |
| 22:42.18 | tsdogs | hmm, it's libgnokii I think |
| 22:42.35 | cr2_ | bah, is c++ compilation so slow on risc cpus. |
| 22:43.07 | ellisway | guess i ned to wait till i have a system here thats a lil bit better than a ia c3 500 and 128mb ram and then start my own build enviroment |
| 22:43.21 | ellisway | could be thats with the 1 from gnulinux |
| 22:43.29 | tsdogs | ellisway: U have a .gnokiirc in /home/root ? |
| 22:43.33 | ellisway | will try your1 now |
| 22:43.36 | ellisway | yeh |
| 22:43.44 | ellisway | took the 1 thats on gnulinux |
| 22:44.07 | tsdogs | hmm, did U get any initialization error? |
| 22:45.25 | ellisway | get a msg saying couldn`t create a data obeject for america/fortaleza |
| 22:45.35 | ellisway | but thats after the seg fault |
| 22:45.45 | ellisway | from what i can tell |
| 22:47.32 | tsdogs | the message about location is ok. the segfault is not :( |
| 22:48.42 | ellisway | yeh |
| 22:48.51 | tsdogs | ellisway: can U ssh to your universal? |
| 22:50.01 | ellisway | probably havn`t ried |
| 22:50.16 | ellisway | still get the segfault |
| 22:50.25 | ellisway | even with your libgnokii |
| 22:50.51 | ellisway | gonna plug a usb cable into my nix bo and try sshing in |
| 22:51.02 | tsdogs | ok |
| 22:54.50 | ellisway | yes i can ssh in via usb0 |
| 22:55.07 | tsdogs | ellisway: ok |
| 22:55.22 | tsdogs | now, change your opie-startup script |
| 22:56.00 | *** join/#htc-linux snakefre (n=prochat1@p5B04F19F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:56.03 | ellisway | tell me what to change |
| 22:56.03 | tsdogs | put a -nodaemon after -terminal 3 |
| 22:56.13 | ellisway | k |
| 22:56.22 | snakefre | hi all |
| 22:56.30 | tsdogs | comment out the KEYBOARD and the PHONE lines with a # |
| 22:56.33 | tsdogs | snakefre: hi |
| 22:57.05 | tsdogs | comment out the QWS_DISPLAY |
| 22:57.16 | tsdogs | write a new line like this: |
| 22:57.38 | tsdogs | QWS_DISPLAY=Transformed |
| 22:57.42 | snakefre | i had not tne time to play with the image from babe |
| 22:58.04 | tsdogs | with export in front :) |
| 22:58.09 | *** join/#htc-linux padski (n=padski@ip-81-170-59-41.cust.homechoice.net) |
| 22:58.15 | ellisway | i already have a line somthing like that |
| 22:58.19 | ellisway | export QWS_DISPLAY=Transformed:LinuxFb:mmWidth54:mmHeight73:Rot270:0 |
| 22:58.22 | snakefre | i am on with my ba^^ |
| 22:58.49 | tsdogs | yes U need to change it to export QWS_DISPLAY=Transformed |
| 22:59.10 | ellisway | k |
| 22:59.12 | tsdogs | I think it's the Rot270 which causes the fault |
| 22:59.32 | tsdogs | (at least on mine) |
| 22:59.46 | ellisway | k done |
| 22:59.50 | tsdogs | also the keyboard stuff should not be needed anymore |
| 22:59.59 | ellisway | now try start again ? |
| 23:00.10 | tsdogs | ok save and start it again. ( it sould not detach from the terminal) |
| 23:00.19 | ellisway | should i try start from the local console on the device or oer the ssh |
| 23:00.26 | tsdogs | ssh |
| 23:00.29 | ellisway | k |
| 23:00.47 | tsdogs | snakefre: :) is it working ? |
| 23:01.34 | snakefre | i couldnt test. |
| 23:01.46 | tsdogs | :( |
| 23:01.55 | ellisway | ok qtopiaa/opie2 starts but i hae no input |
| 23:02.07 | tsdogs | not even touchscreen ? |
| 23:02.16 | tsdogs | wait I'll check mine. |
| 23:02.22 | ellisway | not even ts |
| 23:02.31 | tsdogs | hmm that's strange. |
| 23:02.37 | tsdogs | do you see the menu? |
| 23:02.46 | snakefre | not enought time a lot of work. and i have found a problem, my cardreader only win compatible |
| 23:02.47 | ellisway | although i did see a msg on screen bout the /etc/pointercal |
| 23:03.48 | tsdogs | ellisway: hmm that's strange |
| 23:03.56 | snakefre | so i must search for ext3 filesystem driver for windows |
| 23:04.23 | tsdogs | snakefre: there is a tutorial on how to put linux on sd with your BA. |
| 23:04.47 | tsdogs | snakefre: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux |
| 23:05.04 | tsdogs | It's for Universal, but should work for BA too |
| 23:05.28 | tsdogs | ellisway: try ctrl-c, and test Uni keyboard |
| 23:06.10 | ellisway | i just created /etc/pointercal with this as the content -1569 140 32515218 -71 1908 -2077492 65536 |
| 23:06.38 | tsdogs | ok |
| 23:06.54 | tsdogs | there is also some calibration app |
| 23:06.55 | cr2_ | ellisway: /etc/pointercal should be more or less the same on all universals. |
| 23:07.02 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:07.04 | padski | I have a universal. does the 8563 or 8564 rtc driver work ? |
| 23:07.24 | cr2_ | at least i didn't have any problems using the copy from goxboxlive |
| 23:07.39 | ellisway | ok ts is kinda alie but i tihnk the calibration needs redoing from the pointercal fil i had b4 |
| 23:07.46 | cr2_ | padski: load the driver and check with i2ctools. |
| 23:07.50 | tsdogs | bbiaf |
| 23:08.01 | cr2_ | i'm not sure if it's physically in the device. |
| 23:08.14 | cr2_ | on htc sable aka hw691x it is. |
| 23:08.27 | cr2_ | and afair on hermes too. |
| 23:08.40 | ellisway | yeh calibration is definantly wrong but the ts is defnantly working |
| 23:08.59 | tsdogs | ellisway: tscal or something like that |
| 23:09.22 | padski | cr2_: thanks |
| 23:09.45 | ellisway | do i run tscal from the cmd line ? |
| 23:10.00 | tsdogs | yes (with opieII not running) |
| 23:10.20 | ellisway | k |
| 23:11.12 | tsdogs | ellisway: ts_calibrate |
| 23:15.00 | cr2_ | padski: but afair something responded on 0x51 address. should be the RTC. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_I2C_IDs |
| 23:15.12 | cr2_ | tsdogs: send him your /etc/pointercal |
| 23:15.20 | ellisway | ok thats better |
| 23:15.32 | ellisway | ts is working and calibration seems ok now |
| 23:15.38 | tsdogs | cr2_: ok (need to find it first :) |
| 23:15.39 | tsdogs | ok |
| 23:16.16 | tsdogs | ellisway: now try with the QWS_KEYBOARD line too |
| 23:16.23 | ellisway | k |
| 23:19.36 | ellisway | keyboard works |
| 23:20.01 | ellisway | but the fonts are so small atm that it`s hard to se what i`m clicking on or typing in |
| 23:20.23 | tsdogs | ok now put back the DISPLAY, without the 270 |
| 23:20.40 | ellisway | display or phone 1st ? |
| 23:21.05 | padski | cr2_: yeah I saw that. it's in my /proc/config.gz but I don't have the module. wondered whether it had been left out for a reason. |
| 23:21.06 | tsdogs | whatever U like, but I think it's the Rot270 |
| 23:21.10 | tsdogs | the problem |
| 23:21.32 | cr2_ | tsdogs: qt4 will kill the g3 cpu :) |
| 23:21.34 | ellisway | hmm thats intresting |
| 23:21.54 | cr2_ | padski: there were some issues with having 2RTC devices at once. |
| 23:21.54 | ellisway | after doing ctrl+c so that i can re dit the start script |
| 23:22.09 | ellisway | the keyboard no longer responds on the deice`s local console |
| 23:22.30 | ellisway | so ia ss is fine but localy the kb has stoped responding |
| 23:22.52 | ellisway | so via ssh is fine but localy the kb has stoped responding |
| 23:24.24 | ellisway | ok with phone is ok so far |
| 23:24.38 | ellisway | so now juist the original display line |
| 23:24.53 | tsdogs | ellisway: I know, but keyboard worked for me without any parameter. |
| 23:25.03 | tsdogs | cr2_: :) |
| 23:27.31 | ellisway | with the original display line it seg faults |
| 23:28.03 | tsdogs | ellisway: this was my testing startup script: http://www.pastebin.ca/562943 |
| 23:28.18 | tsdogs | ellisway: even without the Rot270 ? |
| 23:29.19 | tsdogs | You though need Width/height for the icons |
| 23:29.41 | ellisway | k will try without the rot270 |
| 23:30.16 | tsdogs | ellisway: remove also the :0 after it |
| 23:30.59 | ellisway | k |
| 23:31.51 | ellisway | seems ok |
| 23:31.54 | ellisway | no sgfault |
| 23:32.42 | tsdogs | ellisway: with new kernel the keyboard should work without any QWS_KEYBOARD line, and also should not have trubles after opieII exit. afair it was fixed with hh5 |
| 23:33.32 | tsdogs | ellisway: now play with it :) |
| 23:34.00 | ellisway | yeh |
| 23:34.04 | tsdogs | ellisway: can U try to launch the apearence app? |
| 23:34.23 | ellisway | will try in a sc |
| 23:34.26 | tsdogs | ho and U can remove the -nodaemon too |
| 23:34.41 | ellisway | but i just been playing with the Rot option |
| 23:35.24 | ellisway | it segfaults with rot90 and rot270 |
| 23:35.31 | ellisway | but rot180 works |
| 23:35.49 | tsdogs | I never had it working. Maybe goxboxlive nows how to fix it |
| 23:36.11 | tsdogs | I think it's theme related. |
| 23:36.11 | ellisway | both 90 and 270 sofar cause a segfault |
| 23:36.47 | tsdogs | ok. is apearence working for U? |
| 23:37.02 | ellisway | gonna try rot0 altough if i understand it correctly rot0 should be the same as not haing rot on the display line |
| 23:37.13 | tsdogs | :) yes |
| 23:37.52 | tsdogs | cr2_: maybe qtopia is ok on g3 :) |
| 23:38.12 | ellisway | it opens the apparence app |
| 23:38.41 | ellisway | my spelling is dredfull tonight |
| 23:38.43 | tsdogs | ok, so it's fixed . |
| 23:38.54 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:38.55 | cr2_ | tsdogs: compiling on a notebook for 2 days is risky :) |
| 23:39.09 | tsdogs | lol |
| 23:39.30 | tsdogs | It takes 2 1/2 hours on mine :) |
| 23:40.30 | padski | cr2_: there is an sa1100 rtc driver as well |
| 23:40.50 | tsdogs | cr2_: qgis seems very slow in moving the image around. is it bad implementation or gdal overhead ? |
| 23:41.38 | tsdogs | also zooming is slow |
| 23:42.05 | cr2_ | moving around is probably a bad implementation. |
| 23:42.22 | padski | cr2_: I haven't looked at that. I take it the hardware it drives is part of the pxa270 |
| 23:42.44 | cr2_ | padski: pxa270 has its own RTC |
| 23:43.24 | ellisway | ok as we thought rot0 works ok aswell |
| 23:44.31 | cr2_ | tsdogs: if you have the main pixmap in your cache, reading the missing tiles should not be a big problem. |
| 23:45.28 | tsdogs | cr2_: should I do some mmap or simply use RasterIO ? |
| 23:45.43 | padski | cr2_: but that all works on the sable ? or same issues there ? |
| 23:48.20 | tsdogs | ok. bed time for me. good night all |
| 23:49.48 | ellisway | night tsdogs |
| 23:50.04 | ellisway | ty for all the help |
| 23:53.46 | padski | cr2_: thanks. goodnight. |