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07:11.48goxboxlivecr2_, OE has now included a initramfs bb file :-) . I am trying to build it now.
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10:51.26goxboxliveman it's warm weather today, even up here up north
10:53.10tsdogs:)
10:53.15tsdogshi goxboxlive
10:53.24goxboxlivetsdogs, hi
10:53.30goxboxliveWhere do you live tsdogs ?
10:53.39tsdogsitaly north
10:54.15tsdogstoday ain't very nice weather here. yesterday was 30°
10:54.42goxboxliveok, same up here it's allmost 30 now i guess :-) ISent often up here?
10:54.46goxboxlive-?
10:55.21goxboxliveI was in north Italy last authum
10:55.22goxboxlivewith my job
10:55.38goxboxlivenice place, we where traveling from Bergamo to Verona
10:56.19tsdogs:)
10:56.23goxboxliveAlso stopped by a beatufull lake (not garda ) .We had a lot of wine and cheese and parma ham :-)
10:56.38tsdogs:)
10:57.00tsdogs_I live nerby the noth of garda (25min driving)
10:58.40tsdogs_never been to norway. but lived for a year in Holland :)
11:00.11goxboxlivei c
11:02.53goxboxlive29,3 degrees . That's hot for a human living close to the north pole :-)
11:03.23tsdogs:) it's hot for me too.
11:03.34tsdogsat least in june
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11:17.39cr2_hi
11:18.08cr2_i have 15°. with air conditioner in computer room.
11:18.57cr2_goxboxlive: http://home.online.no/~sigurdhu/R+R_Europe.htm
11:19.25cr2_Oslo is covered, but not much. nothing to the north and west.
11:20.57goxboxlivecr2_, hi, ok i c. But some is better than nothing :-) .
11:21.44cr2_goxboxlive: ok :)
11:21.58tsdogscr2_: hi. I have the map :)
11:22.04goxboxlivecr2_, they have added initramfs-image in OE now.
11:22.41goxboxliveBut mine is failing :-( dont know why yet, it says something about fatal hh version.
11:23.02cr2_hmm. i'll try later.
11:23.21tsdogsgoxboxlive: it's the cvs kernel I guess.
11:23.31tsdogsthey just tagged version hh6
11:23.34goxboxlivetsdogs, yes
11:23.40cr2_tsdogs: ok. now you need 2 points with known coordinates. as ar as possible from each other.
11:23.42goxboxliveahh i c thx, i'll retry
11:24.00cr2_ar=far :)
11:24.15tsdogscr2_: ok, but lat/long or pixels?
11:24.22cr2_both.
11:24.43cr2_row1 col1 lon1 lat1
11:24.45cr2_and
11:24.54cr2_row2 col2 lon2 lat2
11:25.28cr2_i'm looking at the .js with which they generate the weird qpegps map.txt entries.
11:25.31tsdogsthat's a challenge. I have the left corners generated for the mercator. so I guess I could take top/left pixel (with 1st tile)
11:25.56cr2_tsdogs: find 2 road crossings.
11:25.59tsdogsand then the bottom left tile top/left corner
11:26.02tsdogsho
11:26.03tsdogsok
11:26.05cr2_and read the coordinates from another map.
11:26.21tsdogshe :(
11:26.33cr2_we can try both and compare the results.
11:26.53cr2_you can lookup the coordinates in google earth too.
11:27.12tsdogsok
11:27.55cr2_bizarre.
11:27.59cr2_<PROTECTED>
11:27.59cr2_<PROTECTED>
11:28.42cr2_this code should be trashed.
11:29.05cr2_there is no excuse for not doing things right.
11:29.15tsdogscr2_:  can't I use the mercator points?
11:29.20tsdogsok
11:29.37cr2_you can, but it's useful to know both methods.
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11:37.02tsdogsok 11031345,45872986
11:37.27cr2_these are mercator coordinates
11:37.39cr2_row col ?
11:37.56cr2_see in gimp with cursor over it.
11:37.59tsdogs2290,2276
11:38.18cr2_ok. the first entry is:
11:38.37cr2_-gcp 2290 2276 11031345 45872986
11:38.48cr2_now do the same for the second one.
11:39.24tsdogsok
11:40.38tsdogs11122982,46009444
11:41.48goxboxlivetsdogs, do you have any qpk of the gps applications you have made? If you have could you make them avaiable at yuor fileserver so i can try them out on universal one day?
11:42.17tsdogsgoxboxlive: don't have them yet.
11:42.28goxboxliveok, let me know when you do.
11:42.46cr2_goxboxlive: what is the opie2 status ?
11:42.59cr2_can it be compiled just out of the box ?
11:43.48goxboxlivecr2_, no, not yet because of some bugs with bluetooth
11:43.52goxboxlivehasndfree
11:45.02tsdogs10952180,46047220 1830,1222
11:45.41tsdogs-gcp 1830 1222 11122982 46009444
11:46.21tsdogsthey ain't that far away, but at least I know where tey are :)
11:46.42tsdogsfuck,
11:46.45tsdogssorry
11:46.48goxboxlive:-)
11:47.07tsdogs-gcp 1830 1222 10952180 46047220
11:47.43tsdogscr2_: still there?
11:48.04tsdogsI have to go eat, bb in 1h
11:48.48cr2_ok.
11:50.05cr2_goxboxlive: i'll do something for you.
11:50.15goxboxlivewhat?
11:50.25goxboxlivefinish universal :-) ?
11:50.27cr2_i'll write an e-mail leter.
11:50.31goxboxliveok
11:50.32cr2_s/leter/later/
11:50.41cr2_no, not yet.
11:50.45goxboxlive:-)
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13:04.09cr2_tsdogs: ok. what are your mercator parameters.
13:04.33tsdogsall of them? or just top left / bottom right?
13:04.47cr2_bbox.
13:04.50cr2_what else ?
13:05.15tsdogstop left: MERCATOR 0000.gif 37356.38 1000 1000 10.63751220703125 46.19314087623798 0 0 10.809173583984375 46.074183321902574 1000 1000
13:05.23cr2_ok.
13:05.27tsdogsbottom right: MERCATOR 0404.gif 37662.78 1000 1000 11.289825439453125 45.739734958168455 0 0 11.46148681640625 45.61980072095504 1000 1000
13:06.20cr2_maps.txt is lame ;)
13:07.17tsdogsI have a 4796x4794 image
13:07.52cr2_10.63751220703125 45.739734958168455 11.46148681640625 46.19314087623798
13:07.59cr2_this is the bounding box.
13:08.11tsdogsok
13:08.31cr2_xxx.gif knows its size already, why did they repeat it twice ?? :)
13:08.49tsdogs:)
13:09.17cr2_ok, that why i think we should drop this weird stuff.
13:09.36cr2_and you'll never explain me what are : 37356.38  37662.78
13:09.54tsdogsI was just going to ask you  :)
13:10.13tsdogsshould be something related to position/zoom level
13:10.18cr2_this is something really backwards.
13:10.30cr2_don't even want to think about it.
13:10.55cr2_projection=mercator and bounding box is absolutely enough.
13:11.24BabelOhi
13:11.29tsdogsBabelO: hi
13:11.59cr2_tsdogs: so we can convert the bounding box to mercator.
13:12.12cr2_calculate the pixel size
13:12.22cr2_and check your values :)
13:12.40cr2_btw, i understand what 'scale' means on a paper map.
13:12.58tsdogs:)
13:12.59cr2_but what does it mean on the screen...
13:13.15cr2_it's absolutely useless :)
13:13.51cr2_ok. bbox to mercator.
13:14.13tsdogsHow do I calculate pixel size?
13:14.45tsdogs4796 / (lat2-lat1) ?
13:15.16cr2_no. first convert the corners to mercator.
13:15.45cr2_lat/long are in degrees now == looks nice but unusable.
13:16.04tsdogswhat was the cmd line?
13:16.17tsdogscs2cs .
13:16.19psokolovsky_Hi!
13:16.27psokolovsky_BabelO: so, any news on acx-cs?
13:16.29cr2_otherwise you need the map in lat/long projection. and it will look like 1:2 distorted.
13:16.54cr2_cs2cs +proj=longlat +ellps=WGS84 +no_defs +to +proj=merc +ellps=WGS84 +no_defs
13:17.23cr2_and the pixel size will be in degrees.
13:17.28cr2_really ugly.
13:17.41cr2_meters are much better.
13:18.43BabelOhi psokolovsky_
13:18.53tsdogslat1: 10d38'15.044"E  0dN 0.000
13:18.59cr2_1184162.44      5708125.05 1275886.88      5780504.56
13:19.14tsdogsthx
13:19.14BabelOi m fighting with GetTuple and RequestConfiguration :)
13:19.42cr2_tsdogs: now calculate the pixel size.
13:20.07cr2_4796x4794
13:20.20tsdogs22992024
13:20.38tsdogs:)
13:20.39cr2_(1275886.88 - 1184162.44 )/4796 - horizontal
13:21.06cr2_( 5780504.56 - 5708125.05 ) / 4794 - vertical
13:21.40cr2_19,1252 15,0979
13:22.19tsdogs:) thx
13:22.21cr2_hmm. not a resolution for a city center :) looks more like landsat imagery.
13:22.42tsdogsit's land, zoom was 3000
13:22.48cr2_so each pixel is 19,1252 x 15,0979 meters.
13:23.07cr2_i've told you that i don't understand the zoom :)
13:23.25tsdogsBut once I get the whole, I'll do it with more detailed map.
13:23.27psokolovsky_BabelO: I see...
13:24.10cr2_so, since you know the pixel size (not square, btw...)
13:24.29cr2_tsdogs: is it from google ?
13:24.44tsdogsyes
13:24.53cr2_hmm. strange.
13:25.11cr2_usually google pics are good.
13:25.50tsdogswhat do you mean?
13:25.57cr2_xres=yres
13:26.14cr2_more or less.
13:26.29cr2_and you have 20% difference.
13:26.36tsdogscould it be a dmap problem?
13:27.07cr2_http://homepages.phonecoop.coop/4oznuff/maps/qpegpsmaps.html
13:27.24cr2_this one uses google api, i've looked at the .js source.
13:27.50tsdogsok wait I'll use this one.
13:28.21tsdogsis it enough to have a 800x640 map for testing?
13:28.30cr2_get 4.
13:29.01cr2_i'll tell you how to stitch them "non-manually" :)
13:29.16cr2_only knowing the coordinates for each of them.
13:29.54tsdogsok.
13:31.43tsdogsbbiaf
13:32.45BabelOpsokolovsky_ : driver structure is correct now, so  if i bypass tuples and setup autodetect then with command pccard ls i can see acx_cs driver attached to pcmcia socket
13:33.01psokolovsky_nice!
13:34.06BabelOpsokolovsky_: best way is a working autodetect :)
13:35.01BabelOpsokolovsky_: do you have same manufacturer and vendorid ? 0097 and 8402 ?
13:36.19BabelOthings i don't understand is the pcmcia memory address returned by RequestConfiguration
13:36.20psokolovsky_BabelO: yeah, sure
13:36.28psokolovsky_all acx100 should have it
13:39.12BabelOso i remove stop_hw, start_hw function because it is managed by pcmcia eject/insert command
13:39.46BabelOand i think i send this version w/o autodetect as a first step
13:45.19psokolovsky_ok
13:49.00BabelOpsokolovsky_: also i test latest post about ts-adc-debounce and it fix all my touchscreen issue with BA. the only thing is a lot of messages that show " sample ignored, too much jitter"
13:50.32psokolovsky_BabelO: that patch is incorrect, the fact that it "fixes" something is mere coincidence
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13:51.34BabelOpsokolovsky_: ok, :( but now i haven't bad coordinate
13:52.15BabelOmaybe i have to reverse  this one and test again with -hh6
13:52.43tsdogscr2_: I have a new image 1462x917 but no bounding box :( as to stick them I needed to crop them.
13:53.11psokolovsky_BabelO: what you should do is to tweak its parameters for BA, that's all (or prove that current algo is indeed doesn't work for it)
13:54.45BabelOpsokolovsky_: ok, i understand i ll try with current -hh6 this evening, i increase pressure to 100 000 and test again
13:57.16BabelOpsokolovsky_: latest patch from roman are working on suspend/resume
13:57.16BabelO<PROTECTED>
13:57.36psokolovsky_cool! they in q for commit
13:58.39cr2_tsdogs: you don't need to. recalculate the bounding box for each image, and check the pixel size.
13:59.16tsdogsok
13:59.22cr2_tsdogs: write a script with 4 params.
13:59.37tsdogs:)
14:00.19cr2_we will make it produce the world file. i guess all your tiles have the same 800x640 size.
14:00.56cr2_ok, i'll be back in ~2 hours.
14:18.06tsdogscr2_: BOX:  1579 1256 11.022859811782837 45.87502597684996 11.039800643920898 45.865643251873614
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15:12.19wiredddI am guessing no one is actaully working on the wizard right now
15:16.35wiredddnm I just hadn't found the right page yet
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15:48.08Foxdieanyone interested in purchasing a semi-dead Universal? It works intermittently, there's a physical fault with it where motion makes it crash. If it's kept still and not subjected to any vibration it should work fine for development work.
15:57.55wiredddfor how much?
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16:06.17wiredddI wish I was a better programmer so I could help get linux working on my wizard
16:06.59wiredddcool to have a ttv though
16:07.11wireddd*tty
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16:16.45wiredddfollowing me around?
16:27.10f0rqu3yes ^^
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16:32.18wiredddwell I got the kernel to boot and I telnet in over usb
16:32.31wiredddthat is way more progress than I expected
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16:40.17cr2_wireddd: gpios, gpios, gpios :)
16:40.40wiredddwhat?
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16:40.55wiredddcr2_: I don't know what that means
16:41.44wiredddI am guessing I would be even more impressed if I built this from the current truck
16:41.50wireddderr trunk
16:45.50cr2_you need to run haret and watch the changes in some certain registers.
16:46.03cr2_has nothing to do with linux.
16:46.06cr2_pure wince.
16:47.55wiredddwell it is an htc wizard
16:48.01wiredddcingular 8125
16:48.23wiredddI am guessing doing what you ask will help with development
16:49.12wiredddok I will go do that....
16:59.25wiredddI am not running windows on this machine, and the only time I have been able to actually get my wizard to talk to linux in any meaningful way is when I started up linux a second ago
17:00.14wiredddcr2_
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17:09.06tsdogscr2_: u here? how the heck did u convert deegrees to meters :)
17:09.35wireddddegrees to meters of what?
17:10.59tsdogswireddd: I use cs2cs to convert from latitude / longitude to mercator, though cs2cs tells me the values in degrees.
17:11.15wiredddoh
17:11.51tsdogshi btw
17:11.57wiredddhello
17:12.49wiredddI am new to this effort, but I have gotten as far as telneting into linux on my phone :)
17:13.06tsdogs:) well done.
17:13.44wiredddno luck getting haret to work however
17:13.49tsdogscr2: ok found out how
17:20.42tsdogswireddd: cr2_ and Kevin2 are the ones you need here :)
17:20.52wiredddok :)
17:22.58tsdogscr2_: ok now I have the map with 1pixel = 1,194m width 1,190m height :)
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18:07.22goxboxliveI have never heard about this one: http://www.e28.com/e28mobile/mobile_e2881_spec.htm
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18:33.53_law_Kevin2: whats the difference between the haret builds on 09.06 ?
18:46.50cr2_goxboxlive: looks like qtopia.
18:47.32cr2_but it's a US model.
18:47.32goxboxlivei havent seen the screenshoots, they doesnt work in Opera
18:47.35goxboxliveok
18:47.45cr2_PCS1900: 1850MHz � 1990MHz
18:47.56cr2_GSM 850: 824MHz � 894MHz
18:48.11cr2_no GPS, no UMTS, 2.8" LCD
18:48.54cr2_wifi chipset unknown.
18:49.24cr2_the dialpad look like the screenshot by BabelO
18:49.45BabelOyes, with a enlarge settings ;)
18:49.50cr2_OMG
18:49.52cr2_Processor: OMAP TI 730 (Tri-core processor - ARM926EJ-S running at 200MHz)
18:50.13cr2_Memory: 64MByte
18:50.40cr2_sorry. GPS: SiRF Star 3
18:51.14goxboxliveyes it has gps
18:51.30goxboxliveand i read somewhere that it is based on motorola linux kernel
18:51.41cr2_looks like imcosys or how it is called. ?
18:51.48cr2_montavista.
18:51.52goxboxliveok
18:53.00cr2_omap is for saving power. sirf3+wifi are not good for your battery.
18:53.17goxboxlivei know
18:54.08cr2_BabelO: can we create a new BA distribution ?
18:54.38BabelOyes, i build a opie image, but there is no tools in it :( need to install opther package by hand
18:56.07BabelOgoxboxlive: can i remove rootfs under /tmp/rootfs and then do bitbake opie-image again ? and the does it recompile everything ?
18:56.11goxboxliveBabelO, create a opie-custom-image.bb file in packages/images
18:56.19cr2_hehe. google ad. "Obfuscate your java now! Free download for windows and linux!"
18:56.21BabelOah ;)
18:56.55goxboxliveand add the extra packegs you want with ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL or something. Hold on i'l lcheck
18:57.07BabelOgoxboxlive: thanks
18:57.43goxboxliveBabelO, no i think it will rebuild a lot of it. but you can do 'bitbake ''bbfile'' -cclean tp clean it up
18:57.48goxboxlives/tp/to
18:57.55goxboxliveor -creabuild
18:57.57cr2_wireddd: still here ?
18:58.07wiredddyeah
18:58.12cr2_tsdogs: so, what have you done ?
18:58.14goxboxlive'-crebuild'
18:58.23cr2_wireddd: got the latest haret from Kevin2 ?
18:58.34wiredddno idea
18:59.22cr2_goxboxlive: defective-by-design -> DRM: Forward Lock as per OMA 1.1
18:59.43cr2_wireddd: http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret
18:59.57goxboxliveBabelO, this is mine opie-custom.bb file: http://pastebin.no/2013
19:00.18cr2_haret-20070609-ce2f.exe
19:00.23cr2_this is the last one.
19:00.23wireddd20070609?
19:00.27wiredddok
19:00.31goxboxlivecr2_, ok
19:01.17BabelOgoxboxlive: thx, i ll try to build one with this
19:01.36cr2_goxboxlive: it may be a PITA to run linux on this phone. who knows what keys and other crap motorola has put on the device. i prefer HTC in this respect :)
19:01.59goxboxlive:-)
19:03.37tsdogscr2_: I have a new Image with 1.9m x pixel
19:03.39cr2_linux become big because of GPL and most commodity hardware. gpl+htc seems to fit very well into the world domination :)
19:04.05cr2_wireddd: put haret on the phone storage (not SD)
19:04.43cr2_tsdogs: have you glued them together ? or only converted the coordinates for the single tiles ?
19:04.49wireddddone
19:04.56wiredddI ran it, it doesn't seem to work
19:04.57tsdogsglued 4 tiles
19:05.14wiredddscratch that, I can't connect to it from my computer
19:05.16cr2_tsdogs: afair they overlap ?
19:05.35cr2_wireddd: wifi or usb ?
19:05.39wiredddusb
19:05.42cr2_ok.
19:05.46cr2_ping ?
19:06.17wiredddit gets detected as an ipaq
19:06.19tsdogsI putted them togheter by hand, so they match exacly(the only annoing thing is the glgle things on it)
19:06.22BabelOgoxboxlive: i ll try latest patch for acx and after suspend/resume it works
19:06.44goxboxliveBabelO, good, do you know when they will add it to the kernel tree?
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19:06.56cr2_tsdogs: don't make life too difficult. convert the corners of single tiles. actually you need to know the pixel size and 1 corner (better the upper left)
19:07.10BabelOgoxboxlive: psokolovsky_ say soon, " it is on the pipe" :)
19:07.12cr2_wireddd: it's ok.
19:07.17tsdogsI have all those.
19:07.17goxboxliveok
19:07.28wiredddwifi would probably be easier
19:07.34goxboxliveBabelO, what about your phonw app, how is going with it, have you done some progress?
19:07.38cr2_tsdogs: are the pixels square ?
19:07.49tsdogs(1228944.99-1227059.14) / 1579 = 1,194 w
19:07.54wiredddcr2_ can I just telnet in over the net?
19:07.55tsdogs(5729659.93-5728164.74) / 1256 = 1,190 h
19:07.58cr2_ok. z=17
19:08.02tsdogsBOX:  1579 1256 11.022859811782837 45.87502597684996 11.039800643920898 45.865643251873614
19:08.05cr2_<PROTECTED>
19:08.20tsdogsyes
19:08.20wiredddthe internet rather?
19:08.20cr2_good.
19:08.24cr2_wireddd: wifi is ok.
19:08.47BabelOgoxboxlive: i m doing many thing at same time :( i didn't connect all interface
19:08.51cr2_wireddd: everything is ok as long as you have telnet and don't use SD:
19:09.00goxboxliveBabelO, ok
19:09.02wiredddok
19:09.24cr2_tsdogs: have you calculated the coordinates to the top left corners ?
19:10.22tsdogshmm, in mercator coord you mean?
19:10.46tsdogsor for the single tiles?
19:10.54cr2_tsdogs: yes. the reason for that is simple. 'gdalwarp' will stitch the images for you. no gimp, no pain.
19:11.06cr2_mecrator for single tiles.
19:11.28cr2_the tiles can be completely disconnected. just random ones, overlapping, whatever.
19:11.59tsdogshmm nope. sure but not very efficent
19:12.08cr2_even with the different pixel size actually. and rotated ;)
19:12.30cr2_tsdogs: the optimal way is to write a bash/awk script to convert maps.txt
19:13.10tsdogsok, I thought I had to put them togheter in a single map :), to divide it later.
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19:13.30tsdogsfor roadmap, something like 64x64
19:13.33cr2_tsdogs: ok, if you already have glued them together.
19:13.52cr2_do you know the coordinates of the upper left corner ?
19:14.06tsdogsin mercator and lat/long
19:14.23tsdogs1227059.14  5729659.93
19:14.30cr2_mercator. only mercator. lat/long is only good for convenience.
19:14.37cr2_ok.
19:14.49cr2_then create the text file.
19:15.15tsdogsok, how structured?
19:16.17cr2_you have the file XXX.gif ?
19:16.23tsdogsyes
19:16.31cr2_so create XXX.gfw
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19:16.49cr2_first line - pixel size
19:17.06donnhi @ all :9
19:17.06cr2_second line - 0
19:17.06cr2_third line - 0
19:17.30cr2_forth line -> -pixel size (with minus)
19:17.56donn@cr2: do you think, we could resume the task of the sd controller problem? :)
19:18.02cr2_fifth line (merc_x) -> 1227059.14
19:18.16cr2_sixth line (merc_y) -> 5729659.93
19:18.43cr2_donn: yes, do you have the latest haret on the device (not SD) ?
19:19.30donn0.4.8?
19:19.33tsdogscr2_: pixel size is <pixel width>x<pixel height> ?
19:20.17cr2_tsdogs: no. just the horizontal resolution in the first line, and the vertical resolution in the third.
19:20.27tsdogsok
19:21.03tsdogscreated
19:21.21cr2_ok, put XXX.gif and XXX.gfw in one directory. cd
19:21.30tsdogsdone
19:22.05cr2_run 'gdal_translate -a_srs epsg:54004 XXX.gif XXX.tif'
19:22.11cr2_in this directory.
19:22.48donnyes, i have
19:22.53cr2_btw, is your gif 8bit ?
19:23.24tsdogsI think so. with palette.
19:23.38tsdogsERROR 4: Unable to open EPSG support file gcs.csv
19:23.38cr2_ok. run 'gdalinfo XXX.tif' and pastebin the output.
19:23.51donnshall i connect it via telnet?
19:23.53donnagain?
19:24.05cr2_hmm. did you install libgdal-dev or something like that ?
19:24.10cr2_donn: yes.
19:24.47cr2_donn: it's better to connect with haretconsole
19:25.07donnthe problem is, i don't know how it works... okay.. i try it again
19:25.25cr2_python heretconsole.py
19:25.26tsdogscr2: ok installing will take a while. bbl
19:25.42donnlol, k
19:25.43donn^^
19:27.53wiredddcr2_: ok I got telnet to connect
19:28.11goxboxliveBabelO, when you have made a usefull image for BA please upload it to linuxtogo/~htcpxa . pH5 it would been good if you did the same.
19:28.34BabelOgoxboxlive: ok
19:28.44cr2_wireddd: do you have haret utils too ? are you running off linux host ?
19:29.18cr2_<PROTECTED>
19:29.26wiredddI just telneted it
19:30.04wiredddyeah linux host
19:31.56cr2_wireddd: you should better use the haretconsole python script to login. it will decode the bits for you.
19:32.08wiredddok
19:32.35cr2_otherwise you'll only get the raw 4byte dumps.
19:33.21wiredddharetconsole says no route to host, but it is there
19:34.16cr2_hmm.
19:34.28cr2_well, let's telnet.
19:35.50wiredddahh signal is spotty
19:36.25wiredddok got it up
19:38.12cr2_run 'watch gpios 30'
19:38.33wiredddok
19:39.07wiredddlook like pretty boring output
19:39.42wiredddwant me to paste it somewhere?
19:39.52cr2_yes.
19:40.06donnwiredd: do you have an smartphone too?
19:40.08donnor an pocket pc?
19:40.46donni tried "ifconfig usb0 up 169.254.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" but he returns the error "no such device"
19:41.55wiredddhttp://www.pastebin.ca/559462
19:42.33wiredddwhat else do you need?
19:43.12wiredddactually it will have to wait, I have to go by the bank before they close, i'll be back in about an hour
19:43.14cr2_wireddd: that's a good output.
19:43.32donn@wireddd: could you tell me, what ip your smartphone has?
19:43.32cr2_ok. you need to mask there 2 gpios
19:43.38donnor what "device" it has?
19:43.54donnlinux returns with the connection via "usb0" that this device does not work
19:43.56wiredddcr2_: I will be back
19:44.16donnhmmm
19:45.00cr2_donn: we have no idea how is your wifi set up.
19:45.10donnhm... k :-P
19:45.18donnvia usb, doesn't help? :-D hehe
19:45.33cr2_does not matter.
19:45.56cr2_if you can remember which ip is used by activesync.
19:47.02cr2_i don't remeber :)
19:47.02donnyeah, i tried to take the same
19:47.03donn169.254.2.2
19:47.09cr2_.131.201 said my synce some time ago.
19:47.28cr2_192.168.131.201
19:47.46donnthe problem "i think" is, that linux don't know the device "usb0"
19:48.06donnbut when i start the LinWizard Distribution, I can connect via SSH to the Pocket PC via the "usb0"
19:48.13donnokay, i try something that it works
19:51.44cr2_you don't have usb0 in wince
19:51.56cr2_you have /deV/ttyUSB0
19:52.29donni have usb0 when I connect to the Linux Distribution on my Pocket PC to the SSH Server !?
19:52.30cr2_and need to run synce, so it runs pppd, then you'll get ppp0 interface.
19:52.38donni insert "ifconfig usb0 up...."
19:52.41donnthat works
19:52.47cr2_we are talking about wince here, not linux.
19:53.04donnsorry, haven't red carefully enough :)
19:54.16donnthats unbelievable that I don't get the connection... urgh
20:00.34donnaah... thats not true :_P
20:00.35donn:-P
20:01.04donnit can't be so difficult, but it is :(
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20:04.20donncan i look for the ip adress on wince?
20:06.48donn@cr2: is the version haret20070609.exe better than the 0.4.8?
20:10.13cr2_yes.
20:10.37cr2_th ip of synce is 192.168.131.201
20:10.47cr2_i think it must be standard
20:14.24donnthe problem is, linux returns me the following problem
20:14.25donn"usb0: unkown interface: no such device"
20:14.25donnbut it works when LinWizard runs on the PocketPC instead of WinCE
20:14.53*** join/#htc-linux donn (n=donn@p5085E9C0.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:14.56donnhm..
20:16.22donnbut it is connected a usb cable..hm.
20:23.09wiredddok cr2_ i'm back
20:23.22wiredddwhat else do I need to do?
20:24.46wireddddonn: your device gets detected like mine as ipaq serial
20:25.00donnhm...means?
20:25.06wiredddthe driver is wrong
20:25.13donnaaah
20:25.19donnokay, and what did you do?
20:25.23wiredddmuch easier to go throw wifi
20:25.28wireddderr through
20:25.41wiredddif that is an option
20:26.20donnah. i am stupid :-D
20:26.24donnnecessary
20:26.26donnwlan.. k
20:29.31donni have no "log" file of the last sentence... which file I have to through into the phyton interpreter?
20:29.36donnphyton *.py
20:29.40donnscanserial?
20:33.45donnit works
20:33.47donni am connected :)
20:34.39donnthanks wireddd
20:36.37tsdogscr2_: I found the csv but now I get this error: ERROR 6: EPSG PCS/GCS code 54004 not found in EPSG support files
20:36.41wiredddnp
20:38.08cr2_tsdogs: you have very stange setup.
20:38.10cr2_gdal_translate --version
20:38.17cr2_GDAL 1.4.1.0, released 2007/04/09
20:38.20donncr2.. i am connected via haretconsole to the pocket pc
20:38.23wiredddcr2_ what other output would you like?
20:38.31cr2_but mercator was there long ago.
20:38.42cr2_wireddd: have you masked these 2 gpios ?
20:38.46tsdogscr2_: shouldn't it be 4004 and not 54004 ?
20:39.06wiredddI don't know what that means
20:39.07cr2_tsdogs: you can use the proj4 string instaed.
20:39.30tsdogscr2_: same version here
20:39.40cr2_wireddd: Kevin has changed the command syntax, i'll look in the source.
20:39.47wiredddok
20:39.59tsdogscr2_: which would that be ?
20:40.28cr2_tsdogs: use 'gdal_translate -a_srs '+proj=merc +datum=WGS84 +ellps=WGS84 +no_defs' ...
20:40.38cr2_instead of epsg:54004
20:40.38wireddddonn: do this 'watch gpios 30'
20:41.39donnbeginning memory tracing.. thats all... :-( he "aborted"
20:41.43donnso he is in the next line
20:42.03wireddddonn what kind of device do you have?
20:42.31tsdogscr2_: still no go, dumps usage
20:42.35donnO2 XDA neo
20:42.42donnor Qtek S200 <-- i think it is the same
20:43.08cr2_tsdogs: i have it here /usr/local/share/gdal/esri_extra.wkt
20:43.20cr2_i'll try to write the full command line
20:43.25tsdogsok
20:43.59cr2_gdal_translate  -a_srs '+proj=merc +datum=WGS84 +ellps=WGS84 +no_defs' FOO.gif FOO.tif
20:44.27wiredddcr2_: what is the overall goal of this process?
20:45.06cr2_wireddd: to check which gpio bit is responsible for which function.
20:45.13wiredddok
20:45.24donnhm.
20:45.26cr2_we need to know which bit is SD power, irq, and detect.
20:46.15cr2_wireddd: you do also without masking. just set a longer time and ignore the 'spamming' bits.
20:46.45tsdogscr2_: I had 2 versions one from RPM and one from source :)
20:46.47wiredddok so just run it and pop the sd card out, and see what changes?
20:46.47cr2_but it's better to mask (disable reporting changes on these bits)
20:47.02cr2_wireddd: yes. in and out
20:47.17wiredddok well how can I mask
20:47.20cr2_tsdogs: does the proj4 string work for you ?
20:47.55tsdogshttp://www.pastebin.ca/559623
20:48.04tsdogstrying
20:48.20cr2_tsdogs: it's not all.
20:48.51tsdogsworks with proj too (the one from source :)
20:48.58cr2_ok.
20:49.01donn@cr2: could this help?
20:49.01donnhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1304079#post1304079
20:49.08donni think this is for my pocket pc
20:49.12cr2_but its not tiled.
20:49.34cr2_donn: no. This command works only on the Intel PXA CPU.
20:49.46tsdogscr2_: it's all I get :(
20:50.06cr2_tsdogs: you need to add the geotiff creation params.
20:50.17wiredddhere is what I have: Detected machine Wizard/OMAP850 (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='WIZA100')
20:50.35donn@cr2: ah
20:50.39cr2_wireddd: it's ok.
20:50.40donnokay, what should I enter no?
20:50.50cr2_tsdogs: gdalwarp  -of gtiff -ot byte -co tiled=yes -co blockxsize=128 -co blockysize=128 -co compress=deflate -co predictor=1 xxx.tif yyy.tif
20:51.44cr2_donn: can you run 'watch gpios 30' and pastebin the results ?
20:52.12donnthere are no results
20:52.33donnhe writes "beginning tracing..."
20:52.33donnand than abort it and writes the next "input"
20:52.48cr2_after 0 seconds ?
20:52.53donnno, after 20?
20:52.57cr2_s/0/30/
20:53.07donnyeah..
20:53.10cr2_ok.
20:53.13tsdogscr2_: http://www.pastebin.ca/559631
20:53.13cr2_run
20:53.20donnits important that is definitly more than 30 seconds?
20:53.26cr2_watch gpios 60
20:53.27donn30~ + / - 5
20:53.42cr2_and insert / pull out the SD card.
20:54.02cr2_COMPRESSION=DEFLATE
20:54.10cr2_Band 1 Block=128x128 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Palette
20:54.15cr2_that's good.
20:54.31cr2_Pixel Size = (1462.320275494686939,-1462.320275494686939)
20:54.36cr2_this is strange.
20:54.49wiredddsd card: http://www.pastebin.ca/559638
20:55.00cr2_tsdogs: Origin = (1226269.640000000130385,5730287.929999999701977)
20:55.14cr2_are these your "origin" coordinates ?
20:55.51donn@cr2: the same
20:55.55donnnothing happens
20:56.22tsdogsnot really (if origin= top/left)
20:56.28cr2_wiredd: that's great. 4000000 is the SD detect gpio. and then there are 2 others. probably power and irq.
20:56.38cr2_tsdogs: origin= top/left
20:56.47cr2_and  Pixel Size = (1462.320275494686939,-1462.320275494686939)
20:56.53tsdogs1227059.14  5729659.93
20:56.54cr2_must be 2.0, -2.0
20:57.13cr2_tsdogs: the origin is more or less ok.
20:57.17tsdogsso pixel size was the pixel in meters
20:57.23cr2_yes.
20:57.36cr2_you have 1.4km per pixel!
20:57.36tsdogsI putted the pixel image width :)
20:57.45tsdogsok doing it again . lol
20:57.57cr2_why then all the trouble with pixel size :)
20:58.17donndo you have an idea with another gpios?
20:58.18cr2_donn: hmm. don't know, you have the same CPU as wireddd
20:58.25donnhm
20:58.37cr2_and what he can see looks VERY reasonable.
20:58.49donncould it bee, that the haret version is damage?
20:58.57donni can remember that I got one time results
20:59.06donnbut I don't know if it was gpios 10, 30 oder 60 oder 100?
20:59.14donnis there a difference?
20:59.24donndoes he have the same one as mine?
20:59.29donnthe same pocket pc?
20:59.31cr2_wireddd: you can also check other hardware events: buttons, backlight, lcd power.
20:59.40cr2_donn: it's time period to watch.
20:59.41wiredddsure
21:00.02donnaah. omg
21:00.03wiredddall of the buttons?
21:00.21cr2_wireddd: then we need to create a wiki page with this data. like for PXA devices.
21:00.24wiredddyou know I have a full keyboard
21:00.27donni test another one?
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21:00.29cr2_try any 1 of them.
21:00.35wiredddok
21:00.45cr2_i  don't know how the keyboard is connected.
21:00.51tsdogscr2_: http://www.pastebin.ca/559654
21:00.57cr2_wireddd: the touchscreen.
21:01.22cr2_tsdogs: that looks much better.
21:01.27wiredddcr2_: ok i'll compile a list
21:01.28tsdogs:) ok
21:01.34donnthe haret.exe has to be on the "harddisk" or on the storage card?
21:01.38cr2_tsdogs: now the low-res overviews.
21:01.48cr2_donn: on the harddisk.
21:02.08cr2_tsdogs: gdaladdo --config COMPRESS_OVERVIEW DEFLATE yyy.tif 2 4 8 16 32 64 ...
21:02.28cr2_depending on the number of scaled down overviews you want.
21:02.29donncan it be, that i changed something that it is "damaged"?
21:02.41cr2_donn: don't think so.
21:03.01donnhm... i no that I got results
21:03.07donnbut "now" it doesn't work
21:03.14donnperhaps i should make a "hard reset"
21:03.14cr2_donn: you see that it works on another device with the same CPU.
21:03.20donnand delete the storage of the ppc?
21:03.37donnit worked one time
21:03.38cr2_i don't think it will help.
21:03.38donnhm
21:03.44donnthats strange
21:03.44wireddddonn I doubt that would help
21:03.46donnvery strange
21:03.55tsdogscr2_: ok, as it ain't that big (3km) I think I can do only 2 4 8 16
21:03.56donnokay, i give it a try
21:04.03wiredddare you connected to it right now?
21:04.06wireddddonn?
21:04.10donnnow?
21:04.15donnno, it restarts
21:04.19donn:-/
21:04.23wiredddwhat restarts?
21:04.30donnthe PPC
21:04.36donni deleted all
21:05.04wiredddok well get everything set back up
21:05.06tsdogsOverviews: 790x628, 395x314, 198x157, 99x79
21:05.11cr2_ok.
21:05.41donn@wireddd: do you have the same problem
21:05.47cr2_tsdogs: now it's the task to read from this geotiff into QImage using libgdal RasterIO() API.
21:05.48donnthat you have no access to the sd card?
21:06.12donndid you try a "distribution"?
21:06.32tsdogscr2_: :) ok my turn. Is there any software I can test the display?
21:06.46cr2_tsdogs: qgis
21:07.01cr2_it also uses RasterIO()
21:07.24tsdogsok thx. I'll put all the commands into  some script.
21:07.46cr2_and don't redraw the full pixmap on panning :) use a buffer
21:08.08cr2_tsdogs: gdalwarp can stitch many geotiffs in one.
21:08.14BabelOERROR: QA issue: libvorbisidec.la failed sanity test (reference to workdir or installed)
21:08.15BabelOgoxboxlive: do you have this error too ?
21:08.19tsdogsok
21:08.24BabelOoups wrong order ;)
21:08.39cr2_BabelO: a buggy .bb file
21:08.43tsdogsBabelO: u can skip this, is normal :)
21:08.43donni can still remember, that there was an haret_omap.exe
21:08.50donnperhaps this helps... okay, i try some different ver
21:08.54tsdogsBabelO: rerun the command
21:09.06cr2_donn: forget about haret_omap
21:09.31cr2_we need to wipe out all these old references where possible :)
21:09.56donnkk :)
21:10.08BabelOok, thx all :)
21:10.10donnthe problem is, i can remember, that something worked
21:10.11donnwell, k
21:11.23BabelOok, have to try image now :)
21:11.26goxboxliveBabelO, yes, just rerun and it will override it
21:12.01donni have a question cr2
21:12.09donnlast time we took some commands like "addlist"
21:12.15donnperhaps this is the reason?
21:12.19donnnow they are gone
21:12.29donndoes i have to add them again?
21:12.31cr2_wireddd: check the bottom of this page http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/doc.html
21:12.39cr2_wireddd: we need something like that.
21:13.00cr2_donn: the "addlists" are already built-in in the 0.4.8+
21:13.06donnok
21:13.11cr2_depending on the CPU.
21:13.20donnthats so strange
21:13.21cr2_hmm. that may be the reason ?
21:13.29cr2_you have PM300 ?
21:13.34donni think
21:13.37donni don't know
21:13.43donnOMAP800
21:13.45donncpu
21:13.48cr2_8500
21:13.50cr2_850
21:14.04donnyes
21:14.05donn850
21:14.08cr2_what is the wince ID of your phone
21:14.38donnModell-Nr: PM300
21:14.43donnyou are right
21:14.52donni hope its correct :_D
21:14.53donn:-D
21:15.03cr2_yes, but only partly.
21:15.08donnah..
21:15.24donnthe main problem is, i remember, that i got the same list like wireddd
21:15.28cr2_i'll look at the haret source.
21:15.44cr2_wireddd's machine is known to haret.
21:15.44donnthat would be very nice
21:16.11cr2_what does haret say in the lower part text widget at start ?
21:16.40donnhttp://phpfi.com/241070
21:16.59cr2_i don't know if there is a command to report the full device model string.
21:17.30cr2_donn: yes. your device CPU is not detected.
21:17.35donnoh.hm
21:17.45donnthats not good
21:17.52donnthe unkown(6)
21:18.06cr2_i can patch haret.
21:18.17cr2_but there should be a better solution.
21:18.17donngreat
21:18.38donnso my is not exactly the same like wireddd
21:21.14cr2_:) ok.
21:21.43donni red some pages about the differences.. hmm.. not really helpful
21:22.45cr2_donn: what is the HTC name for your phone ? Prophet ?
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21:23.15donnurg.. omg
21:23.18donnyes, i think
21:23.20donnplease wait
21:23.46donnHTC Prophet - O2 XDA Neo
21:23.47donnyes
21:23.50cr2_ok.
21:25.29cr2_donn: http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret/haret-prophet.exe
21:26.23donnand then try the watch gpios command again?
21:28.19cr2_yes.
21:28.38donnyes
21:28.39donnit works
21:28.46donnyou are an genius
21:30.32donndo you want to see the results?
21:32.27cr2_yes.
21:35.35donni have a SMALL problem. i use putty to connect to the linux server who connects to the pocket pc
21:35.44donnand not ALL results can be displayed
21:35.45donnhm
21:35.59BabelOtsdogs: question :) how can i set default modules loaded ?
21:36.12donnperhaps i can create a output file where it is saved in?
21:36.24tsdogsBabelO: hmm, wait
21:36.38tsdogsBabelO: in bb or in image?
21:36.47BabelOimage
21:37.37donnah, okay, i solved the problem
21:38.02donn=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= PuTTY log 2007.06.11 23:37:15 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
21:38.07donnhttp://phpfi.com/241079
21:38.16donnthat is the log of the haretconsole
21:38.20donnwith the gpios 30
21:38.28tsdogsBabelO: there is a /et/modutils  but dunno if it really loads all this modules
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21:42.30snakefreakhi all
21:42.46snakefreaki know its the linux channel.
21:43.52snakefreakbut can anybody help me with blueangel running wm5 i have problem with the conection to the pc (no driver)
21:44.17tsdogssnakefreak: you installed activesync ?
21:44.44snakefreakyes the orginal from cd
21:45.00snakefreakbut the driver is not the corecct.
21:45.35tsdogsI suggest U download last ActiveSync from M$
21:46.03snakefreakThats it?
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21:46.08donnhi cr2
21:46.19donnan application crashed all browser windows
21:46.39donncould somebody could "resend" the texts, cr2 wrote after the link?
21:46.49snakefreakthe hardware manager says new device found rndis blueangel or so far.
21:47.37tsdogsIs activeSync running?
21:48.18donn@cr2: so, do you have an idea, what I should do know?
21:48.34tsdogsdonn: not much after the link :(
21:48.42donnthanks :)
21:48.58donni can remember that I know have to see which bits are responsible for the sd card
21:49.47tsdogsBabelO: was that the good answer?
21:50.28BabelOtsdogs: don't know...
21:50.30cr2_donn: run
21:50.36cr2_watch gpios 60
21:50.44cr2_and insert/remove the SD card.
21:50.52tsdogsBabelO: :) let me know if it works
21:51.01BabelOtsdogs: ok
21:51.03donnokay, than I have two different outputs of watch gpios 60
21:51.08donnand then I have to compare them?
21:51.19snakefreaki am on a hot spot and cradle is at home . i fount i thread in zhe forum i will test it later. thx for the help.
21:51.53tsdogssnakefreak: ok.
21:53.21donnthe last output is 059.948 .... should I increase the number 60?
21:55.13snakefreakand to the channel^^ i love linux  use it on my server and on my laptop as first sys. how good is linux running on the ba`? i have read wiki but i havent a  (vorstellung) over the progress.
21:55.33donnsnakefreak: imagination :)
21:55.57snakefreakis it runble  do cell phone sms mms and wifi work?
21:56.59snakefreakthx^^ and sorry dor the bad wwe... ^^
21:57.10snakefreakfor
21:57.36tsdogssnakefreak: wifi works thx to BabelO, sms and phone are working, but need a gui, which is in development (BabeO nows better :=
21:57.47tsdogss/=/)/
21:58.41donn@wiredddd: are you here?
21:58.59snakefreakgui for the komplete syszem or only for sms and phone
21:59.44tsdogssnakefreak: sms/phone, you can choose between more guis.
22:01.03snakefreakhm a ok
22:01.04tsdogssnakefreak: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel
22:02.31cr2_donn: look for the bits different from those in the 'idle' log
22:03.08donnokay, only one problem is
22:03.18donnthe list after 60 seconds is not finished, is it right?
22:03.23donnits very slow
22:03.40donndoes it has an end when I increase the "seconds"?
22:03.54cr2_yes.
22:04.08donni said 240 and it ends at 240
22:04.14cr2_tsdogs: have you looked at the ozi exploiter ?
22:04.16donnso I haven't all of them
22:04.26donnokay, I increase them to 10 minutes, k?
22:04.34snakefreakok that looks very good!!!
22:04.34cr2_if you need.
22:04.41donni don't know
22:04.43donnbut i think
22:04.50tsdogscr2_: not yet, I'm trying to get qgis to build :(
22:04.55cr2_ok.
22:05.12donnokay, and then I have the "lines" what changed
22:05.27donnkevin2 said there are some of them who changes EVERYTIME
22:05.34donnso I have to do this watch command 3 times
22:05.38donn1 time with the sd card
22:05.48donn1 time again to see which of them are random bits
22:05.52cr2_donn: run sort|uniq on the last column
22:05.52donnand 1 time without them
22:06.20donncould you write this sentence on german? don't know if I understand the intention
22:06.26cr2_they are not random, there are 3 of them, and 2 are the same as on wizard.
22:06.33donnaaah.. ok
22:06.40cr2_it may be backlight pwm or something like that.
22:06.46donnkk
22:06.57donnokay, imagine I have the "lines" which are responsible for the sd card
22:07.03tsdogscr2_: won't run in wine :( Access violation. (I saw a tutorial on making it run under Linux=
22:07.03donnwhat I have to do then?
22:07.05cr2_yes.
22:07.20cr2_tsdogs: what's the problem with building qgis ?
22:07.30tsdogsmissing qgsconfig.h
22:07.40cr2_tsdogs: i've posted a link yesterday, can look for it ?
22:07.41tsdogsI got version 0_8 from svn
22:07.47cr2_tsdogs: do you have cmake ?
22:07.48tsdogssure
22:08.08donn@cr2: you help me so much.. if you need some high-traffic ftp space...
22:08.10tsdogscr2_: cmake no
22:08.25cr2_tsdogs: for CVS version you need it.
22:09.20tsdogscr2_: ok installing, why did it complain about automake and all, but not say "YOU NEED cmake"? :)
22:09.31cr2_http://www.oziexplorer3.com/support/oziexplorer/other/linux.html
22:09.54tsdogscr2_: thx. that was what I meant.
22:10.24cr2_[Help]
22:10.25cr2_<PROTECTED>
22:10.25cr2_<PROTECTED>
22:10.30cr2_this is the hack.
22:10.49snakefreakis  it runable on every version of the ba? if is then can anyone give me a link to complete archive?
22:16.22tsdogscr2_: now it works.
22:19.15donnits unbelievable cr2.. after 999 seconds he isn't ready :-D
22:19.19donnomg
22:20.07cr2_donn: who is not ready ?
22:20.28cr2_tsdogs: ozi or qgis ?
22:20.33donnwatch gpios 999 :-D
22:20.46tsdogscr2_: ozi, qgis still complaining :(
22:21.02tsdogsconfigure.in:20: required file `qgsconfig.h.in' not found
22:21.02tsdogsconfigure.in:66: required file `./ltmain.sh' not found
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22:22.08tsdogsok, retring from scratch
22:22.17donnokay, i think, the wlan is too slow
22:22.24donni have to do it by cable via telnet
22:22.30donnthan it is faster :-(
22:22.33donnbut without haretconsole
22:22.34donnhm
22:24.09cr2_tsdogs: configure is not used.
22:24.46cr2_http://wiki.qgis.org/qgiswiki/Building_with_CMake
22:25.13tsdogssnakefreak: they will be building new images next few days, you might want to check later. or you can grab http://gnulinux.biz/files//Universal/, but U need to replace the kernel with new one built by you
22:25.14tsdogssnakefreak:
22:25.32tsdogshttp://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelKernel
22:26.44tsdogscr2: ok but everything is there autoconf/automake autogen.sh :(
22:27.22cr2_they switched after 0.8.0 i think
22:27.57cr2_i've complained , and got the reply 'fix it if you want it' :) or something like that.
22:28.11donn@cr2: now it is VERY Fast :_D
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22:28.26cr2_it was working well with ./configure before.
22:28.29tsdogscr2_: :)
22:29.01donncr2: does haret has an log output?
22:29.07BabelOsnakefreak: i just finish to setup a opie image :)
22:29.12cr2_but i'm not that versed in autotools syntax.
22:29.18cr2_donn: yes.
22:29.22cr2_use 'help'
22:29.27donnkk :9
22:29.29tsdogscr2_: ok got over it I think..
22:29.56tsdogsBuilding :)
22:29.56cr2_tsdogs: geos is needed.
22:29.57cr2_2.2.3
22:29.57donnlast question to the watch gpios command
22:30.12donnI have round 1 screen full of results per second... and after 60 seconds it is not finished
22:30.14donnis it normal?
22:30.35snakefreakbabe10 you have a image ir not i dont understand just finish
22:30.46cr2_donn: yes.
22:30.57donnok :) what time you prefer?
22:31.01cr2_donn: there are simply too many changes.
22:31.22cr2_it does not matter. you need to look the new changing gpios.
22:31.55donnokay, i set it to "watch gpios 1000"
22:32.29BabelOsnakefreak: i ve one, just testing it wait few minutes
22:32.31donnhmm...it loops...
22:32.40donnurgh.. it does not go in my brain how it works
22:32.44snakefreakah ok thx
22:34.44tsdogscr2_: I have geos-devel rpm installed :), their rpm was broken for Fedora7
22:35.46BabelOsnakefreak: you have wm5 ?
22:36.15snakefreakyes
22:36.22cr2_donn: there is 'IBIT gpios ##' command, but i'm not sure how to use it.
22:36.39cr2_need to ask Kevin2 about it :)
22:36.39BabelOgood, you need to setup a linux partition on your sd card
22:37.25donnok cr
22:37.40snakefreakok type`?
22:37.46snakefreakext2`?
22:39.13BabelOsnakefreak: ext3 please
22:40.38BabelOtsdogs: is sound  volume working for you ?
22:41.04snakefreakok
22:41.06tsdogsBabelO: in opie? only the master
22:41.22snakefreaki have
22:43.21donncr2: i compared the two "outputs"
22:43.22donnwith and without sd card
22:43.57BabelOsnakefreak: you are my beta tester ;)
22:44.16snakefreakähm
22:44.22donndoes somebody worked with the haret and know what to do after "output" of "watch gpios"=
22:44.23donn?
22:44.25snakefreakmy ba is at home.
22:44.34snakefreakim not there.
22:44.39BabelOok :(
22:44.55snakefreakhm
22:45.44snakefreaki havent inet @home im a hotspotter.
22:46.57BabelOok, you can download my image with some file ?
22:47.54snakefreaki have one more quwstion how it works. is the os stored on the filesystem in ba or on the sdcard.? and what hapens when it not work. (risk of death ba?)
22:48.33tsdogssnakefreak: it's on SD, and no harm to BA (at least we hope :)
22:48.38snakefreaki can download yes iam on my laptop and have the sdcard and reader.
22:48.59BabelOsnakefreak: linux run from sdcard, after you have to reset your device to restart on WM5, reset button, + remove battery and replug
22:49.13snakefreakah ok thx thats nice
22:49.45snakefreakah ok i understand we are human boot manager ^^
22:50.05snakefreaksdcard limted in sitze?
22:50.36BabelOi  start it on a 1Go sdcard, have 300 Mo for linux and other as vfat filesystem
22:50.47BabelO300 Mo is big, but i make lot of test ;)
22:50.54snakefreaki have 512mb and 4gb
22:50.58donnthats so strange
22:51.13BabelO4Go sdcard ... ? outch !
22:51.18BabelOcr2_: does 4Go works ?
22:51.26snakefreaki need for downloads^^^
22:51.32BabelOyes
22:51.32snakefreak4go?
22:51.56snakefreakah lol
22:51.56BabelOyes 4gb sorry
22:52.06snakefreakyes
22:52.11snakefreakno prob
22:52.50donnwell, nobody worked with haret "watch gpios"?
22:52.51BabelOsnakefreak: ok so, i send you private for ftp
22:52.51donnhm.
22:53.43tsdogsdonn: Kevin2 and cr2_, that's the only ones I know.
22:53.54tsdogspH5 maybe too
22:54.31donnokay, thanks :)
22:56.48BabelOsnakefreak: to install, just unpack bz2 file ot your ext3 filesystem
22:57.26BabelOsnakefreak: copy startup.txt , zImage and haret.exe to you vfat gile system in same directory and just start it
22:58.15snakefreaki need one fat and one ext3
22:58.28snakefreakwgat means gile system
22:58.33snakefreakwhat
22:59.43BabelOyou need a vfat or  just copy haret and other file on you wm5 document directory or other
23:00.05snakefreakah ok
23:00.21snakefreaki uderstand
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23:00.52tsdogsBabelO: shouldn't he check also for the root= cmdline argument ? depending on where ext3 is
23:01.55snakefreaki come at next day 00:00am-00:30am and tell u what hapens.
23:02.08BabelOoh yess... snakefreak if you have just one partition, edit startupt.txt and set it to /dev/mmcblk0p1
23:02.53snakefreakp1 p2 and so on will be the partitions`?
23:03.31BabelOyes
23:03.49snakefreakgood
23:03.57snakefreakok i will do
23:05.37BabelOsnakefreak: playing sound is working + wifi is working if you setup ssid and keys ( only wep supported at the moment) and bluetooth works but service does not start automatically :(
23:05.52snakefreakok whendownload finish i will go home sleeping.^^ for the test
23:05.55snakefreakok
23:06.34snakefreakwifi i think i can particibe (beitragen) ein bischen
23:06.48BabelOdon't forget to download other file
23:06.48snakefreaka little bit
23:06.58snakefreak?
23:07.35BabelOyes haret.exe, startup.txt and zimage
23:07.44snakefreaki have ^^
23:08.28snakefreakok thx all thx babe10
23:08.30BabelOso good luck and good night
23:08.41snakefreakthx to
23:09.19BabelO<PROTECTED>
23:09.30tsdogs:)
23:10.59snakefreak^^
23:11.03snakefreakcya
23:11.12tsdogssnakefreak: good night
23:11.13donnsnakefreak
23:11.17BabelOgood night
23:11.17donni have a short question
23:11.21donngood night Babel0
23:11.30donnfunktioniert bei dir Linux auf dem Pocket PC?
23:11.34tsdogsBabelO: night
23:11.45snakefreaknoch nich getestet.
23:11.53BabelOtsdogs: not now ...  have many thing to finish :)
23:11.56donnhm...
23:11.57snakefreakbericht kommt morgen.
23:12.03tsdogsBabelO: :)
23:12.07donnwas hast du denn für einen
23:12.14snakefreakhab ebend erst die datein gelafen
23:12.18BabelOtsdogs: yesturday my gpe image failed on matchbox-panel .. :(
23:12.31snakefreakvpa3 ph20b2
23:12.37donnahso
23:12.54donnich hab einen wo der support völlig fürn arsch ist
23:12.55donnO2 XDA Neo
23:13.02donneigentlich ein sehr geiles gerät
23:13.06snakefreakhab ohne vertrag gekauft
23:13.15donnaber für einen Linux Umbau absolut ungeeignet
23:13.16snakefreakhab 0 support
23:13.18snakefreak^^
23:13.20donn:-P heh
23:13.43tsdogsBabelO: I never builded a gpe image :)
23:13.57snakefreakder neo hat nur nen ti omap 100mhz?
23:14.29donnPM300 mit OMAP 200MhZ
23:14.32donnreicht aber völlig
23:14.37donnich hab echt KEINE probleme
23:14.41donnhab mich echt gewundert
23:15.11BabelOtsdogs: startup take a long time... but some better support, thing i did not found is how can ifup a device under gpe :(
23:16.01snakefreakhm hab mt meinem pxa 400mhz auch keine. vlc verreckt bloß an zu großen vids
23:16.28donnnimm tmcp
23:16.32tsdogsBabelO: hmm no idea. Ain't there anything similar to Network management
23:16.34donntcmcp
23:16.38donnder ist absolut genial
23:16.41donnund besser als vlc
23:16.41snakefreakhm ok
23:16.44donnund kann mehr formate :)
23:16.49snakefreakmerkich mir
23:17.00donnder läuft auf meinem sogar flüssig
23:17.14donnPocket PC DivX Encoder
23:17.15BabelOtsdogs: there is network device setup, but no start button, maybe i need to look again
23:17.19snakefreakhm was hast fürn os drauf?
23:17.25donn2005
23:17.50donnmit dem pocket DivX Encoder packste die um
23:17.51donntotal genial
23:17.53tsdogsBabelO: I only tested goxboxlive image, and not for long, really don't remember. I usually go to console and ifup :)
23:18.10snakefreakok ich muss^^
23:18.13snakefreakcya
23:18.16donnok
23:18.18donncya
23:20.00tsdogsBabelO: I also modified the /etc/network/interfaces file to have "auto usb0" otherwise had to ifup if manually when builded into the kernel
23:20.53BabelOok, under gpe there is a usefull tools to setup usb as fs, net or serial gadget ;)
23:21.18tsdogs:)
23:22.26Kevin2donn: Still here?
23:22.34donnyes :)
23:22.36donnhi kevin
23:22.56Kevin2You're missing an update to haretconsole which is why the output doesn't make sense.
23:23.12donnhmm.. don't know, well
23:23.15donni got an output
23:23.22donnbut it loops
23:23.32donndo you want to see 10 seconds?
23:23.54Kevin2One sec.
23:24.01donnyeah
23:27.53Kevin2donn: http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haretconsole-20070611.tar.gz
23:28.52donnokay, i replace this
23:29.05donnand retry "watch gpios 60"?
23:29.21Kevin2Yes.  Please use http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070611.exe
23:29.37donncr2 made a file called haret_prophet.exe
23:29.50donnis it the same?
23:29.53donnor a new updateß
23:30.11donni have a short question to the connection
23:30.43donnwell, i have the linux computer, and connect the XDA via USB
23:30.43donnbut the command "ifconfig usb0 up 169.254.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" does not work
23:30.44Kevin2donn: Okay, use cr2's version.  I'm not sure what he has changed.
23:30.44donnbecause linux don't know the device usb0
23:31.04donnhe changed, that haret knows my pocket pc
23:32.31Kevin2donn: I run "ifconfig usb0 169.254.2.2"  -- You do need linux drivers, and you need the device connected when you run ifconfig.
23:32.57Kevin2donn: Rerun the "watch gpios 10" command.
23:33.01tsdogscr2_: qgis is still building. I'll test it tomorrow
23:33.09tsdogsdonn, BabelO, Kevin2, cr2_ good night
23:33.15donnnight tsdogs :)
23:33.20BabelOnight
23:33.25donn@kevin2: i made the following: i have a router via wlan
23:33.36donnso I connect with haretconsole via the wlan router to the device
23:33.41donnbut it is very slow
23:33.56donnmeans, I have a problem... when I enter "watch gpios 999" it is not ready after 999 seconds
23:34.46donnhe says to me to "usb0: device not found"
23:35.00donnbut when I run linuxWizard, its possible via usb0
23:35.00donnhm
23:36.27donnokay, i try it via wlan
23:36.37donnbut i have only a few of results...
23:36.45Kevin2donn: I'm not sure what you are trying to do.  I've used the "ifconfig usb0" thing to communicate with my device when both the device and my host are running linux.  I've never tried to connect to the device when it is running wince.
23:37.09donn??
23:37.13donnwait, one question
23:37.23donni run the haret.exe on wince
23:37.30donnand haretconsole on a linux server
23:37.33Kevin2Yes.
23:37.42donni have to connect from linux to wince haret
23:37.46Kevin2Yes.
23:37.57donnso i connected the linux machine via usb with the pocket pc
23:38.13Kevin2I've never connected to wince from linux using usb.  I use wifi.
23:38.19donnah..ok
23:38.30donnok, than i do it too
23:38.36donnbut it is more than slow, right?
23:39.17Kevin2We shouldn't be transferring a lot of data.
23:39.42donnok
23:39.59donnokay, i am ready immediatly..
23:40.56donnAh...thats a different output
23:40.59donnthats better, i hope
23:41.04donndo you want to see it?
23:41.10Kevin2Yes
23:41.25donnhttp://nopaste.php-q.net/300687
23:41.30donni hope its enough
23:43.30Kevin2Yes, that is fine.  Now see the GPIO#.  You are going to need to ignore those gpios that trigger all the time.  You use "ibit" to do this.  For example "ibit gpios 121 35 36"
23:43.49donnthis i have to enter in haretconsole?
23:44.33Kevin2Yes.  Then rerun "watch gpios 10"
23:45.25donn? omg?
23:45.35donnhe says 5 times "Watching GPIOS" thats all
23:45.42donnwith the addreses
23:45.59donnhttp://nopaste.php-q.net/300688
23:46.00Kevin2Great.  Now rerun the command and insert the sd card.
23:46.12donnoh.. the sd card is in it
23:47.17donnokay, i hope I made everything all right
23:47.18donnhttp://nopaste.php-q.net/300689
23:47.40donnthe first watch gpios 10 is WITH sd card and the second one is without it
23:48.06Kevin2While running the watch gpios command you need to insert/remove the card.
23:48.40donnwhile? its to fast to "remove" it while running the gpios, or?
23:48.57Kevin2Then do "watch gpios 60".
23:49.05donnah.. sorry, k
23:49.09donnit works
23:49.25donnhttp://nopaste.php-q.net/300690
23:49.30donni hope i made it right
23:50.00Kevin2Was that an insert or a remove?
23:50.26donnan insert
23:50.40donnwait, one question
23:50.48donnthe first gpios 10 I made.. the card was in it
23:50.57donnso i have to "remove" it now, or?
23:50.59Kevin2Okay, now do the same and remove the card while in the watch.  Keep track of which is which.
23:51.08donnok
23:51.58donnhttp://nopaste.php-q.net/300691
23:52.02donnits shorter than before
23:53.02Kevin2Okay.  So GPIO 34 and GPIO 126 are your SD card detect and SD power gpios.  (Not sure which is which, but cr2 can probably figure that out.)
23:53.48donnokay, so I have to wait until tomorrow until cr2 can help me further
23:54.08donnor do you know what I can do now?
23:54.32Kevin2Well, what did you want to do?
23:54.57donnwell, there is one distribution.. i can start it with haret, but
23:55.13donnnot the haret one, I have here, it is a file that makes immediatly a screen and show tux
23:55.18donnand then runs linux
23:55.36donnthe problem is, linux is written in /dev/ram0 and I have no access to the sd card
23:56.08donnI would like to mount linux on the sd ram or I would like to have access to it, that I can mount it
23:56.30donnthe distribution creates a ssh server, so that I have access to the bash
23:59.06Kevin2Okay, I'd wait for cr2 to get SD working in linux.
23:59.06donnokay, thank you very much
23:59.07Kevin2Why can't you boot linux with latest haret?
23:59.07donnhm.. i don't know.. he makes a short error
23:59.07Kevin2What is the error?
23:59.08donnhmmm..wait, I will see what happens

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