| 00:04.16 | cr2 | :))) |
| 00:04.58 | cr2 | ida b0rked on switch to thumb. |
| 00:05.18 | cr2 | maybe i've chosen the wrong checkbox ;) |
| 00:11.14 | cr2 | hmm. in thumb it jumps behind the loader. |
| 01:01.55 | Kevin2 | Wow, I've never seen thumb in any of the pda code i've looked at. |
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| 04:50.53 | Dr_torch | Good evening all |
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| 07:56.49 | cr2 | morning. |
| 07:59.05 | cr2 | kiozen: what projection are you using on the map canvas ? |
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| 08:11.33 | donn | hi@all:) |
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| 08:22.06 | donn | re :) |
| 08:22.29 | donn | Kevin2: If you read this, would like to ask you something |
| 08:34.42 | kiozen | cr2: usually eckert2, but you can use mercator,too |
| 08:34.52 | kiozen | can see chinese letters :) |
| 08:35.20 | kiozen | can't tell if they are the right ones |
| 08:35.29 | cr2 | kiozen: mercator/wgs84 would be the best. |
| 08:35.49 | kiozen | use setup to configure |
| 08:36.34 | cr2 | what do you think, if you have a raster image with the known pixel size (square, X meters) |
| 08:36.50 | cr2 | and the coordinates of the corner. |
| 08:37.14 | cr2 | can you plot it on the canvas ? |
| 08:37.41 | kiozen | sure, do that all the time with waypoints :) |
| 08:37.49 | cr2 | ? |
| 08:38.06 | cr2 | you can overlay vector data with the raster ? |
| 08:38.12 | cr2 | in qlandkarte ? |
| 08:38.28 | kiozen | a wayoint is a pixmap at a certain location |
| 08:38.28 | cr2 | i usually use qgis http://qgis.org |
| 08:38.53 | cr2 | hmm. ok, but i mean something else. |
| 08:39.02 | kiozen | but for whole maps I have to do some work ;) |
| 08:39.18 | cr2 | ok. |
| 08:39.41 | cr2 | think about ozf2, 64x64 tiled format as used by ozi explorer. |
| 08:40.01 | cr2 | then you dont need to break your head with geotiff and complex libs. |
| 08:40.26 | cr2 | and you also don't need to load complete stripes or images at once. |
| 08:40.34 | kiozen | That is what I wanted to look next, after I killed all chinese bugs |
| 08:40.44 | cr2 | cool. |
| 08:41.21 | kiozen | QLandkarte is pretty feature finish -> need new stuff |
| 08:41.31 | cr2 | :) |
| 08:41.40 | BabelO | hi |
| 08:42.02 | cr2 | btw, the chinese map can use RAM more efficiently. |
| 08:42.11 | cr2 | it takes 2.2G to load, but then drops to 1.1G |
| 08:42.31 | kiozen | you after it loads ? |
| 08:42.39 | cr2 | hi BabelO |
| 08:42.42 | cr2 | kiozen: yes. |
| 08:42.52 | cr2 | the ram usage drops. |
| 08:43.17 | kiozen | I squeeze polylines and free some stuff I do not need :) |
| 08:43.32 | cr2 | ok. |
| 08:43.51 | kiozen | Qt preallocates memory |
| 08:46.28 | BabelO | cr2: you want some ozi functionnality now ;) |
| 08:49.38 | donn | good morning @all |
| 08:52.34 | cr2 | BabelO: if ozi was free software that would be nice. unfortunately it is not. |
| 08:56.23 | cr2 | ozi has a very polished gui |
| 08:56.41 | cr2 | but sometimes suffers from NIH thinking ;) |
| 08:57.50 | cr2 | it includes some completely outdated libtiff cvs snapshot code |
| 08:58.19 | cr2 | but does not use tiff as tiled raster format internally. |
| 08:58.43 | cr2 | and uses an own replacement for it - ozf2. |
| 08:59.12 | cr2 | greed blinds ;) |
| 09:00.16 | BabelO | so you find omap5912 documentation yesturday ? |
| 09:00.24 | cr2 | but ozf2 format is documented now, and i#ve found the GPL'd ozf2->tiff converter code. |
| 09:00.55 | cr2 | yes, i think this file simply included all others that are available. |
| 09:01.18 | cr2 | so the CPU registers are documented to 99% |
| 09:01.50 | cr2 | i've also resolved the nonaligned addresses bug in disassembly. |
| 09:02.14 | cr2 | now i need to check the flash eeprom and DRAM settings with the manual. |
| 09:02.35 | cr2 | but 4MB size stays ;) |
| 09:03.53 | BabelO | you can do lot of thing with 4MB :) |
| 09:04.21 | cr2 | is it difficult to port to microwindows ? |
| 09:04.35 | cr2 | there is a win32 roadmap code. |
| 09:04.51 | cr2 | that uses pretty standard stuff. |
| 09:05.10 | cr2 | the only problem i had is "createmenu" |
| 09:05.11 | BabelO | can look at it, but nanox was doing for that |
| 09:05.17 | cr2 | because it is missing from wince2.11 |
| 09:06.05 | BabelO | cr2: but i think an uclinux image is better to do such thing in small size |
| 09:06.49 | cr2 | sure. |
| 09:07.24 | cr2 | but i thought microwindows uses a subset of win32 as its api. |
| 09:07.50 | BabelO | what do we need, nanox + uclibc ? |
| 09:08.01 | cr2 | yes. |
| 09:08.19 | BabelO | cr2 : yes, there is some hello world app with win32 code |
| 09:09.10 | cr2 | it seems to me as a better solution than nano-X +gtkroadmap |
| 09:10.58 | BabelO | hown much size is libgtk ? around same as libqt i think |
| 09:11.12 | cr2 | you don't need qt |
| 09:11.19 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:11.53 | cr2 | i think win32 api is simplier (and is already there) than raw xlib :) |
| 09:13.09 | cr2 | this was _maybe_ ok in 2000 http://www.nano-x.org/Nano-XTutorial.html |
| 09:13.14 | cr2 | but not now ;) |
| 09:14.36 | cr2 | The Microwindows API tries to be compliant with the Microsoft Win32 and WinCE GDI standard. Currently, there is support for most of the graphics drawing and clipping routines, as well as automatic window title bar drawing and dragging windows for movement. |
| 09:15.36 | BabelO | cr2 : we can try later with ba or universal to have standard roadmap running over annox |
| 09:16.37 | cr2 | yes. it's just another gui port of roadmap |
| 09:16.54 | cr2 | gtk, gtk2, qt, qt4, win32, wince, nanoX. |
| 09:18.40 | kiozen | cr2: good hint with the memory size decreasing! |
| 09:18.59 | kiozen | did some wired stuff when loading single img |
| 09:19.04 | kiozen | fixed :) |
| 09:19.47 | cr2 | ok :) |
| 09:23.43 | cr2 | kiozen: why there is no "quit" button in qlandkarte ? |
| 09:25.33 | kiozen | you never want to quit QLandkarte, it's so fantatstic :) |
| 09:25.53 | cr2 | i know :) |
| 09:26.10 | kiozen | never needed it, alt-f4 or top right cross do it |
| 09:26.51 | kiozen | you need that on embedded devices? |
| 09:26.55 | cr2 | it's against the kde style. |
| 09:27.04 | kiozen | what kde style? |
| 09:27.28 | cr2 | no, but it will confuse a "generic" user. |
| 09:27.40 | cr2 | there is a style guide. |
| 09:27.51 | kiozen | you should read what users say about my menu :) |
| 09:28.00 | cr2 | file/open/cut/paste etc. |
| 09:28.03 | cr2 | where ? |
| 09:28.16 | kiozen | news list |
| 09:28.52 | cr2 | ok :) |
| 09:30.32 | kiozen | btw QLandkarte does not link against kde, thus I never had the feeling to comply. |
| 09:31.00 | kiozen | however the quit menu entry is asked for quite often. I will add it |
| 09:31.45 | BabelO | cr2: even if we have a quit button, it does not fit in our small screen ;) |
| 09:33.53 | cr2 | BabelO: the small screen needs a different window layout anyway. |
| 09:34.03 | BabelO | yes sure |
| 09:34.19 | cr2 | and a different ram usage pattern :) |
| 09:34.50 | cr2 | loading tile by tile is slower, but works also with 4MB RAM :) |
| 09:35.31 | donn | kevin2 is hard to get in the chat here, or? :-P |
| 09:35.34 | donn | hehe |
| 09:36.19 | cr2 | kiozen: there is something strange with the water polygon rendering on taiwanese basemap. i get full blue screen with some white stripes. other maps are ok, the chinese glyphs work too. |
| 09:36.33 | kiozen | second, customer .... |
| 09:36.41 | cr2 | LOL. |
| 09:38.31 | cr2 | ok, i need to do some real work now. the calculations have finished. |
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| 10:05.05 | kiozen | cr: that's because of global warming |
| 10:07.12 | kiozen | there are large comment blocks on that in CGarminImg and CGarminMap |
| 10:07.36 | kiozen | however I am not sure anymore if that is the complete truth. |
| 10:08.39 | kiozen | it might be some east / west overflow at 180 degree, too. |
| 10:09.06 | kiozen | I am in that currently |
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| 11:16.36 | donn | cr2: could i send kevin2 an email? |
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| 12:26.39 | donn | hmmmm |
| 12:27.00 | donn | cr2: or perhaps you know, when he comes back? |
| 12:35.02 | cr2 | donn: you should use "addwatch". read the help for haret. |
| 12:36.15 | cr2 | donn: but don't ask me where are the gpio registers which you need to watch. look in the tornado/wizard source. |
| 12:46.52 | Kevin2 | donn: During weekdays I'm only here US evenings. |
| 12:47.06 | donn | ah |
| 12:47.07 | donn | :) |
| 12:47.09 | donn | hi Kevin |
| 12:47.19 | Kevin2 | I'm on my way out to work now. :-/ |
| 12:47.26 | donn | oh, k :) |
| 12:47.33 | donn | perhaps we see us together |
| 12:47.37 | donn | later |
| 12:47.51 | donn | have fun @ work :) |
| 12:48.55 | Kevin2 | Okay. Bye. |
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| 16:45.28 | cr2 | hi pH5 |
| 16:45.39 | pH5 | hi cr2 |
| 16:45.55 | cr2 | omap does not look so bad as i have thought before :) |
| 16:46.21 | pH5 | tell me everything |
| 16:46.48 | cr2 | the SD controller on omap850 is documented, but has .bus_shift=1 |
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| 16:46.56 | cr2 | like on the omap730 |
| 16:47.22 | cr2 | it probably does not work only because the power is not applied to the card on insert. |
| 16:47.43 | cr2 | there are card insert, card power and sdio irq gpios missing. |
| 16:48.01 | cr2 | somebody with a device should trace the gpios. |
| 16:48.22 | cr2 | btw, i'm excited by your dis.py script :) |
| 16:48.51 | cr2 | it handled the switch to thumb much better than ida. |
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| 16:49.05 | cr2 | by producing complete junk :) |
| 16:49.49 | cr2 | ida produced some legitimate looking code with unaligned accesses ;) |
| 16:51.21 | cr2 | so i have identified all the cpu registers http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=60Cx_registers |
| 16:51.41 | cr2 | with one small exception. |
| 16:52.51 | pH5 | heh, I touched thumb code only when playing with the htc ti calypso radio image. didn't advance far enough to warrant any work on dis.py's thumbability. |
| 16:53.04 | pH5 | that's an impressive list. how long did you work on that? |
| 16:53.29 | cr2 | check the wiki history :) |
| 16:53.49 | cr2 | 4 days. |
| 16:53.57 | pH5 | yeah, I figured it would be something like that. nice :) |
| 16:54.29 | cr2 | once the SD will work, you only need to find the SPI port location for the touchscreen. |
| 16:54.49 | cr2 | the battery is OWM. |
| 16:55.13 | cr2 | based on TI HD1Q |
| 16:55.20 | cr2 | linux driver exists. |
| 16:56.12 | cr2 | and forget about the phone part. imho it's not worth the pain. |
| 16:57.09 | cr2 | i've read here that the custom omap dsp can process gps signal: |
| 16:57.14 | pH5 | why is that? the bb is not really autonomous? |
| 16:57.18 | cr2 | http://www.satnav-shop.com/index.php?ln=en&pg=6&sec=15 |
| 16:57.23 | pH5 | :) |
| 16:57.39 | cr2 | bb uses the OMAP dsp. |
| 16:57.56 | cr2 | voice goes over cutom spi channel |
| 16:58.14 | cr2 | and it needs some place in main RAM. |
| 16:58.31 | cr2 | a lot of RE with zero docs. |
| 16:58.59 | cr2 | your code will look as a binary blob even if you'll really make it work. |
| 17:00.12 | cr2 | bbl. |
| 17:00.27 | pH5 | that's a task for a very bored person... |
| 17:00.28 | pH5 | but quite a lot of models would profit if somebody ever was to make that work. |
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| 18:23.09 | cr2 | i'm back. |
| 18:25.00 | cr2 | http://www.eccpage.com/bch3.c |
| 18:43.53 | cr2 | is 133 a prime number ? |
| 18:45.02 | pH5 | 7*19 |
| 18:48.38 | cr2 | ok. thanks. |
| 18:51.47 | pH5 | what is bch used for? |
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| 19:03.32 | rmoravcik | pH5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCH_code |
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| 19:08.41 | pH5 | rmoravcik: thanks |
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| 19:57.18 | cr2 | pH5: what is 'rsb' ? |
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| 20:10.27 | cr2 | rsb r3,r2,r1 ;r3 = r1 - r2 |
| 20:10.31 | cr2 | hmm. |
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| 20:16.12 | cr2 | gcc generates asm that is never generated by msvc :) |
| 20:16.23 | cr2 | eor |
| 20:19.38 | cr2 | the memory size table from http://focus.ti.com/lit/ug/spru749b/spru749b.pdf |
| 20:20.14 | cr2 | it seems that it can't be applied for this cpu. so 4MB is questionable. |
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| 20:27.18 | Sti_0239 | hello |
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| 21:00.55 | cr2 | 0x208 is 512+8 |
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| 21:56.52 | cr2 | rmoravcik: do you have docg3 ? |
| 22:01.39 | rmoravcik | cr2: no |
| 22:02.51 | cr2 | so was it g2 ? |
| 22:03.27 | cr2 | i've collected all g3 registers. the half or them is undocumented ;) |
| 22:06.16 | cr2 | awk 'END{for(m=1;m<10;m++) {print 2^m-1,2^m-1-m}}' < /dev/null |
| 22:06.18 | rmoravcik | cr2: i have only s3c24xx devices and all has only samsung nand |
| 22:06.32 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:06.56 | cr2 | (255,247) code |
| 22:07.23 | cr2 | so how do i generate a matrix for it... |
| 23:06.07 | cr2 | http://klabs.org/richcontent/MemoryContent/nvmt_symp/nvmts_2002/docs/12/12_dan_s.pdf |
| 23:12.36 | cr2 | http://www.freshpatents.com/Compact-high-speed-single-bit-error-correction-circuit-dt20050721ptan20050160350.php?type=description |
| 23:37.28 | cr2 | i think it should be possible to work around this "invention" ;-) |