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| 06:58.24 | donn | Hi :) |
| 06:58.31 | donn | I have a short question |
| 06:58.50 | donn | I setup up Linux on my pocket pc, but don't know, how to upload files on it |
| 06:58.57 | donn | I can connect via SSH to it |
| 06:59.07 | donn | but that doesn't helps me to send files |
| 06:59.31 | HellDesk | you can send with files with scp |
| 06:59.49 | HellDesk | (scp file pocketpc: on linux or with winscp |
| 07:00.28 | donn | hmmm |
| 07:00.29 | donn | scp |
| 07:00.41 | donn | yesterday I tried it, but nothing worked |
| 07:00.53 | donn | have you an example? |
| 07:01.38 | HellDesk | is your sending os linux or windows? |
| 07:02.04 | donn | linux |
| 07:02.24 | donn | because the Ethernet Gadget Driver, cannot be found by me on Windows Machine |
| 07:02.46 | HellDesk | scp /home/donn/somefile 192.168.1.1:/path/on/your/pocketpc |
| 07:02.57 | HellDesk | where 192.168.1.1 is the ip of your pocketpc |
| 07:03.01 | donn | jep |
| 07:03.20 | donn | do i need some special settings, that I have access to /path/on/my/pocketpc? |
| 07:06.27 | HellDesk | Hmm, yes |
| 07:06.34 | HellDesk | otherwise you can to it as |
| 07:06.44 | HellDesk | scp /home/donn/somefile root@192.168.1.1:/path/on/your/pocketpc |
| 07:08.59 | donn | okay, thanks |
| 07:09.27 | donn | I have a special path to /Storage/Program Files/Haret/ <--- the boat loader wants it |
| 07:09.39 | donn | but the path to the storage card is /Storage Card/ |
| 07:09.56 | donn | that would it make more easier to make Linux on a SD Card, do you know, what I can do? |
| 07:11.37 | donn | Another Problem: ah, this error again, urgx... I copied the files on the Pocket PC and now I want to connect with ssh to it |
| 07:11.37 | HellDesk | hmmz, I don't understand.. |
| 07:11.41 | donn | yesterday it worked |
| 07:11.51 | donn | but now SSH says "Remnote Host identification has changed" |
| 07:12.06 | donn | i deleted the file from /root/.ssh/knows_hosts, but nothing happened |
| 07:12.42 | HellDesk | you need to change it on the machine you're connecting from |
| 07:12.56 | donn | yeah, the problem is, I cant connect to it |
| 07:12.59 | donn | the only way is ssh |
| 07:13.04 | donn | i have no virtual keyboard |
| 07:13.28 | donn | so i cant to anything on the console, which shows me the login field |
| 07:13.42 | HellDesk | no, the .ssh/knows_hosts file is located on the machine you're connecting from. Your pc |
| 07:15.46 | donn | yeah, I know |
| 07:15.57 | donn | ah, where I connect FROM |
| 07:16.04 | donn | sorry, i red where I connect TO |
| 07:16.09 | donn | kk, it works :) |
| 07:16.18 | HellDesk | Nice :) |
| 07:16.22 | donn | okay, the last question :-P to the problem on the top |
| 07:16.26 | donn | do you know LinWizard? |
| 07:16.29 | HellDesk | Nope |
| 07:16.40 | donn | a small package for Linux on a special PocketPC |
| 07:17.04 | donn | well, i start it, and he loads everything, but he only want ths special path \Storage\Program Files\Haret\****** |
| 07:17.16 | donn | do you know, if it is changable? |
| 07:17.20 | donn | to \Storage Card\.... |
| 07:17.54 | HellDesk | Sorry, can't help you with that.. |
| 07:18.09 | donn | kk, thanks :) |
| 07:18.21 | HellDesk | I've been lurking here a few days, still didn't find the time to boot linux on my universal |
| 07:19.12 | donn | with scp, it works |
| 07:19.13 | donn | THANKS :) |
| 07:19.22 | donn | Wine on PDA :-P |
| 07:19.28 | donn | hehe^^ |
| 07:19.47 | HellDesk | hehe, that's going to be sooo slow :D |
| 07:20.17 | donn | hehe, perhaps^^ |
| 07:20.21 | donn | but I only need the console |
| 07:20.30 | donn | I want to make a Cinema 4D Net Render Server on it for fun |
| 07:21.24 | HellDesk | Jikes.. that's going to run so slow :) |
| 07:22.15 | donn | hehe, yes |
| 07:22.29 | donn | do you know a command to see, whas happening with the hard disk space? |
| 07:22.34 | donn | how much is avaible? |
| 07:23.15 | HellDesk | df -h |
| 07:23.39 | HellDesk | (or df if it fails, but -h displays it in human readable form) |
| 07:23.43 | HellDesk | brb |
| 07:24.18 | donn | avaible 1,4 MB :-/ |
| 07:25.17 | donn | it shows me /dev/ram0 |
| 07:25.19 | donn | ? |
| 07:26.03 | donn | it has 1,4 MB... |
| 07:26.05 | donn | hmmm.. |
| 07:26.17 | donn | there is no harddisk avaible.. thats not good^^ |
| 07:26.37 | donn | in /dev/ram0 is the root path |
| 07:26.43 | donn | *omg* |
| 07:32.11 | donn | thats stupid, in /dev/ there are so much "devices" |
| 07:32.22 | donn | hda1, hda10, hdb1, hdb10 , but nothing can be mounted |
| 07:33.00 | HellDesk | jup, those are standard devicdes |
| 07:33.22 | donn | i have to format my sd card to ext2, correct? |
| 07:33.33 | donn | is it then possible to create this as a "hard" disk? |
| 07:33.39 | donn | or something like that? |
| 07:33.46 | donn | because, Linux is "mounted" in the ram |
| 07:33.47 | HellDesk | Nah, it should mount fat32/fat16 too |
| 07:33.54 | donn | hm |
| 07:34.02 | donn | the question is, where I get more space |
| 07:34.07 | donn | than the normal ram space |
| 07:34.19 | HellDesk | Try an fdisk -l |
| 07:34.25 | HellDesk | should list your partitions |
| 07:34.46 | donn | |? |
| 07:35.00 | donn | the one close to the "shift"? |
| 07:35.08 | donn | fidks -| |
| 07:35.09 | donn | hmmm |
| 07:35.16 | HellDesk | No, the l from list :) |
| 07:35.22 | donn | no,ah, l |
| 07:35.26 | donn | kk |
| 07:35.28 | donn | the first one :) |
| 07:35.34 | donn | no, nothing is shown |
| 07:35.50 | donn | thats not well :-( |
| 07:36.13 | HellDesk | mm |
| 07:36.24 | HellDesk | that's something I don't know yet :) |
| 07:36.32 | donn | hm... :-( |
| 07:36.43 | donn | do you think, it would help to format the SD Card to Half-half? |
| 07:36.47 | donn | not really, or? |
| 07:37.11 | HellDesk | I don't know.. I've read it somewere |
| 07:37.28 | donn | ah, so, it is possible |
| 07:37.43 | donn | thats very important^^ :_p |
| 07:37.44 | donn | :-P |
| 07:37.44 | HellDesk | that should give you an nice ext3 partition, but you should be able to mount the other partition too |
| 07:37.53 | donn | hm.yeah |
| 07:38.15 | donn | do you know, who could know it? |
| 07:38.40 | HellDesk | Somebody else in this channel that actualy runs linux on his htc..:D |
| 07:39.27 | donn | thank you very much |
| 07:44.08 | cr2 | donn: hi. do you know what is testwm5 ? |
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| 07:46.26 | kiozen | hi |
| 07:46.35 | kiozen | cr2: fixed codepages :) |
| 07:46.46 | kiozen | latest trunk in repository |
| 07:48.45 | cr2 | hi kiozen. that's very nice. |
| 07:48.46 | donn | @cr2: hm |
| 07:48.49 | donn | no, sorry |
| 07:49.15 | cr2 | kiozen: have you seen my link about taiwan img ? |
| 07:49.20 | donn | what is it? |
| 07:49.41 | cr2 | donn: it's the program to dump the rom contents from a wm5 device |
| 07:50.00 | cr2 | donn: i'd like to have a look at the sdhc and touchscreen dlls. |
| 07:50.16 | cr2 | if you can dump them on ompa850 device. |
| 07:50.36 | donn | hmm... well, I started a tool called "ns.exe"! |
| 07:50.41 | donn | it says, it hides it |
| 07:50.58 | cr2 | http://hands.com/~lkcl |
| 07:51.01 | cr2 | at the top. |
| 07:51.06 | kiozen | nope |
| 07:51.36 | donn | thanks, i will test it |
| 07:51.43 | donn | where do i have to place it? |
| 07:51.49 | donn | \Storage\Program Files\Haret\ ? |
| 07:51.57 | cr2 | kiozen: i'm looking in the logs |
| 07:52.05 | kiozen | me to on 2nd |
| 07:52.23 | cr2 | donn: does not matter, it will create 2 directories in \Storage \Card: Modules and Files |
| 07:52.35 | donn | ah |
| 07:52.36 | donn | cool |
| 07:52.51 | donn | do you know, if I can change the path? |
| 07:53.06 | donn | when i look, where the root partition is, it under /dev/ram0 |
| 07:53.06 | kiozen | found link |
| 07:53.12 | donn | with 1.4 MB avaible |
| 07:53.44 | donn | so, i pressed "Button1" |
| 07:53.57 | donn | do you know, what should happen? |
| 07:54.08 | cr2 | kiozen: it's a 10bit worldmap and some taiwan maps. |
| 07:54.28 | cr2 | donn: 1.4MB is too little, it's the whole rom that will be dumped. |
| 07:54.48 | donn | yes, i know |
| 07:54.56 | donn | but don't know what to do know |
| 07:55.06 | donn | i only start the application "haret_omap.exe" |
| 07:55.08 | cr2 | hmm. soft reset |
| 07:55.09 | donn | and it loads linux |
| 07:55.14 | donn | then, it is again |
| 07:55.18 | donn | linux is load in the ram0 |
| 07:55.26 | donn | don't know, how to change it |
| 07:55.47 | cr2 | donn: it's a wince program, put it on the wince side. |
| 07:55.48 | donn | TestWM5 does what? |
| 07:56.13 | donn | what means wince? |
| 07:56.14 | cr2 | and put a >128M SD card |
| 07:56.17 | donn | ram space? |
| 07:56.25 | donn | I have a gigabyte sd card |
| 07:56.26 | kiozen | ok downloading |
| 07:56.30 | donn | but it is empty |
| 07:56.38 | cr2 | windows ce = wince = windows mobile |
| 07:56.41 | donn | ah, sry, k |
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| 07:57.07 | kiozen | i'll have a look, got work to do, bye |
| 07:57.07 | cr2 | donn: how big is you fat partition on the SD card. |
| 07:57.12 | cr2 | bye. |
| 07:57.15 | donn | ~987 Mb |
| 07:57.27 | cr2 | donn: then it's ok. |
| 07:57.32 | donn | but the sd card is empty |
| 07:57.36 | donn | right? |
| 07:57.39 | cr2 | just run testwm5. |
| 07:57.40 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 07:57.44 | donn | okay, i do |
| 07:57.45 | cr2 | strange. |
| 07:57.53 | donn | i have Windows Mobile 2005.. you knw? |
| 07:58.03 | cr2 | yes, that's the problem ;) |
| 07:58.06 | donn | ah, k |
| 07:58.11 | donn | i will see what happens :) |
| 07:58.16 | donn | it loads, and loads^^ |
| 07:58.22 | cr2 | otherwise there are other methods to do it. |
| 07:58.26 | cr2 | wait :) |
| 07:58.30 | donn | jep :) |
| 08:00.48 | donn | i will hope i get more space :-P |
| 08:00.49 | donn | ^^ |
| 08:00.50 | donn | hehe |
| 08:02.12 | cr2 | donn: i'm mainly interested in the touch*dll and sdhc*.dll |
| 08:02.22 | cr2 | in Modules/ directory. |
| 08:03.19 | cr2 | i don't know if we will get the phone running, but we must make SD and touchscreen working. |
| 08:06.42 | donn | kk :) |
| 08:06.44 | donn | hehe |
| 08:06.49 | donn | its running still |
| 08:07.15 | donn | looong time :)^^ |
| 08:08.26 | donn | perhaps it is a loop :-P |
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| 08:10.07 | donn | does it has an end? :-P |
| 08:11.23 | donn | perhaps i try to create suse on it. hehe |
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| 08:26.19 | donn | is it correct that the TestWM5 still runs? |
| 08:28.50 | cr2 | Kevin2 did it yesterday, and it was long too. |
| 08:29.16 | cr2 | do the file names change in the gui widget ? |
| 08:32.51 | donn | kk :) |
| 08:32.54 | donn | yes, it does |
| 08:33.17 | donn | i come back later when it is finished |
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| 08:52.37 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 09:28.51 | BabelO | hi |
| 09:28.57 | BabelO | cr2: do you know pgrouting ? |
| 09:40.33 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, it's written by a french group ? |
| 09:42.06 | BabelO | cr2 : not sure , all their demo are for japan ;) |
| 09:53.40 | ellisway | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:54.30 | donn | @cr2: Hi: its still runining |
| 10:54.33 | donn | since 3 hours |
| 10:55.08 | donn | for 3 hours :-P |
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| 10:57.25 | donn | for 1 hours, there is the file wapdrv.dll |
| 11:04.55 | donn | should i make a restart? |
| 11:07.32 | tsdogs | cr2: you here? I had an idea about poi. why not have a separate file with all this info and simply do something like navigation plugin? |
| 11:13.03 | donn | its very interesting with the tool TestWM5 |
| 11:13.06 | donn | it takes soooooooo long |
| 11:13.07 | donn | :( |
| 11:13.13 | donn | don't know what to do any more |
| 11:13.21 | donn | well, my question is, what does it effect? |
| 11:13.28 | donn | what should be changed after running this tool? |
| 11:19.46 | tsdogs | donn: I have no idea, you should wait for cr2. imho you can safely restart (I think it hanged) |
| 11:20.37 | tsdogs | testwm5 is for dumping wm5 memory (for reverse eng) |
| 11:25.01 | donn | hmm... means? |
| 11:25.13 | donn | sorry, i don't understand, what it really does |
| 11:25.22 | donn | It creates two directories and many files on it |
| 11:25.32 | donn | but I don't really know, what this should effect |
| 11:28.53 | tsdogs | donn: it dumps memory allocated files. |
| 11:29.13 | tsdogs | they should get there on the SD |
| 11:29.30 | tsdogs | if you only have one probably it hanged or loops. |
| 11:29.50 | donn | no, it makes further |
| 11:29.58 | donn | but why should I dump them to memory? |
| 11:30.04 | donn | what is after an restart? |
| 11:30.17 | donn | yes, they are in the SD Card |
| 11:30.22 | tsdogs | You are dumping FROM memory to SD |
| 11:30.27 | donn | ah, yes, k |
| 11:30.38 | donn | means, my sd card is the memory? |
| 11:30.39 | tsdogs | so you are not touching wm5 |
| 11:30.47 | donn | aah, k |
| 11:30.50 | donn | thats pretty cool |
| 11:30.52 | tsdogs | no? MEMORY = RAM |
| 11:31.00 | donn | yes, i know |
| 11:31.03 | donn | i mean |
| 11:31.23 | donn | sorry, there are some discussion problems :-( |
| 11:31.28 | donn | the problem was the following |
| 11:31.35 | donn | I made Linux on the XDA |
| 11:31.47 | donn | but it was written in /dev/ram0 |
| 11:31.53 | donn | with free memory of 1.4 MB |
| 11:31.56 | donn | thats nothing |
| 11:32.10 | donn | so cr2 told me, that I have to execute this TestWM5 Application |
| 11:32.10 | tsdogs | that's because you are running with an initrd, or ramfs |
| 11:32.15 | donn | ok |
| 11:32.29 | donn | the question was, how to use the SD Card as hard disk space |
| 11:32.38 | tsdogs | this test application is to know what it is used to access the hardware afaik |
| 11:33.02 | donn | ah, k, so this should solve my problem? |
| 11:33.07 | tsdogs | probably cr2 needs to create a "new" driver for that, or just have some kernel params |
| 11:33.19 | donn | ah, k |
| 11:33.37 | donn | so he needs my dumped files? |
| 11:33.45 | tsdogs | yes :) |
| 11:33.50 | donn | kk |
| 11:34.09 | donn | do you know, how long it needs, this application? |
| 11:34.18 | donn | it runs for 4 hours |
| 11:34.26 | donn | and it is still running.. i hope |
| 11:34.52 | tsdogs | does it still dump files? |
| 11:35.03 | donn | hmm..good question.. it has only dumped about 30 files |
| 11:35.20 | donn | and it is at a file called "wmcore.dll" for 10 minutes |
| 11:35.50 | donn | does he need all files? |
| 11:35.51 | tsdogs | hmm, you could ask Kevin, I never used it. |
| 11:35.54 | donn | kk :) |
| 11:35.58 | tsdogs | or cr2 of course |
| 11:36.05 | donn | :9, thx |
| 11:36.51 | tsdogs | bbl |
| 11:39.17 | donn | so, if someone knows, would like to know, how long TestWM5 needs :) thx |
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| 11:45.44 | cr2 | donn: i need touch*.dll and shdc*.dll since you are at w* you can stop |
| 11:47.36 | cr2 | tsdogs: some of the pois are already implemented. their names are just not rendered. the same for the polygons. it's possible to modify the buidmap_postgres.c to add even more useful information. but the renderer should be extended. |
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| 12:12.51 | BabelO | cr2 : : i found a new gadget to play with, since lot of time i look for it ;) we can compile it for arm, this add a J2me layer to our phone, so we can play maybe with some j2me sms application ;) https://phoneme.dev.java.net/content/phoneme_feature_r2.html |
| 12:14.20 | BabelO | cr2: i know you don't like java, but it may be usefull |
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| 12:22.34 | cr2 | BabelO: i think it's easier to recover the qtopia sms app. having multiple toolkits and environments wastes a lot of resources. |
| 12:23.13 | cr2 | i don't have anything against java as a programming language in itself (gcj) |
| 12:24.08 | BabelO | cr2: yes, i already build qtopia dialer and callscreen, getting messagebox now and need to extract SMS pdu decode function from gnokii to try |
| 12:24.20 | cr2 | what i dislike are the virtual machines and garbage collectors :) |
| 12:24.35 | cr2 | ok. |
| 12:26.16 | BabelO | cr2 : this approach is maybe usefull to have software already running, because there are a lot of j2me application, and i m looking for one with sms/mms support, so it can solve goxboxlive issue with sms for a time ;) |
| 12:27.14 | cr2 | BabelO: we should try a fresh qtopia build today in the evening. |
| 12:28.45 | cr2 | goxboxlive already compiles qt-2.3.10 and qt-3.3.5 for the same image only to get konqueror working :) |
| 12:29.05 | BabelO | cr2 : yes, we can try, now i ve an empty hard drive to fill ;) |
| 12:30.01 | BabelO | there is a strange requirement to build j2me for arm : |
| 12:30.02 | BabelO | MontaVista Linux Consumer Electronics Edition 3.1 |
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| 12:42.47 | donn9 | Hi :) |
| 12:42.51 | donn9 | sorry, I was disconnected |
| 12:43.13 | donn9 | answered someone to the problem of TestWM5 how long it needs? |
| 12:43.49 | tsdogs | <cr2> donn: i need touch*.dll and shdc*.dll since you are at w* you can stop |
| 12:44.37 | donn9 | hm |
| 12:44.43 | donn9 | i am at exsmime.dll |
| 12:44.48 | donn9 | and it runs for 5 hours now |
| 12:44.50 | donn9 | :-P |
| 12:45.43 | donn9 | thanks to tsdogs |
| 12:52.32 | donn9 | i have no dll yet |
| 12:52.39 | donn9 | everything is an exe file |
| 12:52.50 | donn9 | 24 objects...hmm... |
| 12:53.26 | cr2 | donn9: in Modules or in Files ? |
| 12:56.05 | donn9 | cr2: i think i am ready |
| 12:56.08 | donn9 | i have many files.... |
| 12:56.13 | donn9 | with dll-files |
| 12:56.35 | donn9 | 155 files in Modulkes |
| 12:57.28 | donn9 | shall i send them you by mail? |
| 13:04.23 | cr2 | donn9: do you have touch*.dll in Modules ? |
| 13:04.44 | donn9 | no :( |
| 13:04.48 | donn9 | after 5 hours :( |
| 13:04.50 | cr2 | and *sdhc* ? |
| 13:05.02 | cr2 | or *SDHC* |
| 13:05.17 | donn9 | No search results :( |
| 13:05.25 | donn9 | is it possible to search them manually? |
| 13:05.29 | cr2 | can you pastebin the 'ls -R' ? |
| 13:05.41 | donn9 | in linux mode, yeah, wait please |
| 13:05.48 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:06.13 | donn9 | in the / ? |
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| 13:06.43 | donn | hm |
| 13:11.31 | donn | CHANGES bin dev etc home lib linuxrc->bin/busybox mnt opt proc root sbin sys tmp usr var |
| 13:12.10 | cr2 | donn: on the SD card :) Modules/ directory. |
| 13:12.36 | donn | sry^^ omg, I should shutdown the computer and never touch it again :-D |
| 13:13.58 | donn | http://nopaste.php-q.net/298339 |
| 13:14.46 | donn | i try to sort it |
| 13:17.10 | donn | sorted: http://nopaste.php-q.net/298340 |
| 13:21.42 | donn | in listen.ha is the command "root=/dev/ram0" |
| 13:21.53 | cr2 | thanks. it is strange. |
| 13:21.58 | donn | I cant replace it like /dev/hda1 or something else, can I? |
| 13:22.05 | cr2 | not yet. |
| 13:22.28 | donn | k |
| 13:22.29 | cr2 | hmm. i need to find another way to get the data ;) |
| 13:22.35 | donn | shall I try it again? |
| 13:22.43 | donn | is it possible to search them? |
| 13:25.10 | cr2 | no. |
| 13:25.29 | donn | kk |
| 13:25.31 | cr2 | i think we should try to split the rom. with the wince5 tools from xda-dev |
| 13:25.59 | donn | to make two partitions? |
| 13:26.01 | donn | on it? |
| 13:26.19 | donn | fat and ext3? |
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| 13:27.43 | cr2 | you get it wrong. |
| 13:27.43 | Raboliot | Hi ! What's new with linux on HERMES ? |
| 13:28.15 | cr2 | you need to take the wince rom image and split it into files. |
| 13:28.17 | cr2 | bbl |
| 13:29.42 | donn | i think this one is interesting, isnt it? http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Rom_Dump |
| 13:36.15 | donn | okay, the "TestWM5" is faster than before |
| 13:36.17 | donn | i restarted it |
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| 14:59.00 | donn | is there an other way avaible to get the touch.dll? |
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| 15:07.06 | donn | cr2: are you there? i have it |
| 15:07.14 | donn | its completed |
| 15:07.58 | donn | :-P puh hehe |
| 15:17.30 | donn | which files do you need? the touch.dll i think and...? |
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| 15:40.18 | BabelO | donn : second DLL is *SDHC* |
| 15:41.10 | Foxdie | universal doesn't support SDHC does it? |
| 15:42.40 | BabelO | Foxdie : don't know |
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| 15:43.39 | Foxdie | I must take my universal apart tonight :/ |
| 15:43.48 | Foxdie | find out why it crashes when moved |
| 15:44.10 | donn | hm |
| 15:53.45 | BabelO | pH5 : hi, do you add some better support to open moko for 240x320 screen size ? |
| 15:53.46 | pH5 | hi BabelO, not yet. |
| 15:54.07 | BabelO | pH5 : ok, thx for your answer |
| 16:06.28 | donn | can I do something on my own with the touch.dll? |
| 16:06.35 | donn | or does I have to do someone other it |
| 16:07.18 | donn | the question is, what cr2 will do with the dlls? |
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| 16:32.38 | donn | the touch.dll is missing still soon :) |
| 16:32.46 | donn | strange |
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| 16:45.20 | donn | i started it again.. can that be, that it takes sooo long time? |
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| 16:55.22 | tsdogs | cr2: ok if the map already contains the info, extending the rendering should not be that hard |
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| 17:09.59 | donn | @tsdogs: do you know what i should do with the files? |
| 17:10.02 | donn | with the dumped files? |
| 17:10.33 | tsdogs | make them available for cr2. |
| 17:10.37 | donn | kk |
| 17:10.38 | donn | all? |
| 17:10.51 | donn | or only the ones, in the directory "modules"? |
| 17:11.00 | donn | i think, that ones, are the important ones, or? |
| 17:11.13 | tsdogs | as cr2 sayd he needs only the: touch*.dll and shdc*.dll |
| 17:11.37 | donn | thanks...sometimes I disconnect to the chat, and then the history is gone |
| 17:11.41 | tsdogs | i have no idea about what the program dumps. |
| 17:12.13 | donn | k |
| 17:12.25 | donn | would be an interesting point for me to know, what he does with that files |
| 17:12.29 | donn | well, I think, there is something in it |
| 17:12.38 | donn | but how...disammbling? :-) |
| 17:12.56 | tsdogs | try konversation, it keeps the logs, you can go here also btw: http://irclog.iclem.net/?chan=htc-linux |
| 17:13.32 | donn | thank you... never thought that they are immediatly avaible |
| 17:13.32 | tsdogs | yes, he will check for IO mappings |
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| 17:13.46 | tsdogs | on that site yes (not always online though, sometimes disconnects) |
| 17:14.13 | donn | kk, copied into my brain:) |
| 17:14.18 | donn | would be a nice feature |
| 17:14.21 | donn | copy paste to brain :-P |
| 17:14.34 | donn | wikipedia.. copy and paste |
| 17:14.51 | tsdogs | unless you do a cut a couple of times then you are f**up |
| 17:14.57 | tsdogs | :) |
| 17:15.15 | donn | hehe |
| 17:15.24 | tsdogs | bbiaf |
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| 17:26.13 | donn | cr2: i loaded it up |
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| 18:19.41 | cr2 | tsdogs: there is some movement formward on the roadmap mailing list :) |
| 18:19.50 | cr2 | donn: where can i get it ? |
| 18:20.01 | tsdogs | :) |
| 18:20.06 | donn | hi :) one minute.. |
| 18:20.06 | tsdogs | I must subscribe . |
| 18:20.12 | cr2 | tsdogs: sure. |
| 18:20.42 | donn | zip, ok? |
| 18:20.47 | donn | 26 MB |
| 18:22.19 | cr2 | tsdogs: i'm not quite sure how to proceed further. what are the contest rules ? can you submit the qt3 code fixes to roadmap ML ? |
| 18:22.20 | cr2 | donn: http ? |
| 18:22.20 | donn | jep |
| 18:22.20 | cr2 | ok. |
| 18:22.20 | donn | 7 minutes left :-P |
| 18:22.23 | donn | and what do you do then? |
| 18:22.29 | donn | i hope you have not so much work |
| 18:22.50 | donn | and when you have the files, what is the result then? |
| 18:22.51 | cr2 | i'll think how to split it into pieces. |
| 18:23.11 | donn | is the result a file, or something? |
| 18:23.12 | cr2 | to look at the binary code. |
| 18:23.48 | tsdogs | I don't think so, but I'm not sure I'm able to partecipate. Read the agreement here: http://trolltech.com/developer/tt/phase1form |
| 18:23.48 | cr2 | you have done a 'dd' on a filesystem. i'll try to extract the files from it. the files can be analyzed. |
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| 18:24.46 | tsdogs | cr2: I certify that my submission is original, that I own all the rights to it or am authorized by my employer to submit the entry in the selected category and may receive a prize if chosen as the category winner. I also attest that I have read and complied with the Greenphone Developer Challenge’s official rules. |
| 18:25.16 | tsdogs | OWN all the RIGHTS :( |
| 18:26.06 | cr2 | well, one can't own all the rights to a GPL app, unless one has written it himself. |
| 18:26.41 | tsdogs | maybe I should ask ljp, maybe need some written authorization from roadmap author |
| 18:27.40 | cr2 | i think it's all about qtopia=qt4 code. the qt3 code is separate. |
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| 18:28.12 | cr2 | anyway, i wish you a lot of success and decide yourself :) |
| 18:28.13 | tsdogs | yes. you are right. |
| 18:28.22 | tsdogs | thx. |
| 18:28.49 | tsdogs | qt3 can be submitted. |
| 18:29.18 | cr2 | i'll support such project anyway because i see an urgent necessity in such an enduser app. |
| 18:29.42 | cr2 | i'm uploading all my gps tracks to openstreetmap, because i find it very important too. |
| 18:30.08 | cr2 | ok, then subscribe to the roadmap mailing list. |
| 18:30.37 | donn | okay cr2... can i write you a maiLß |
| 18:31.27 | cr2 | and we can have a local tree on xanadux or somewhere else for bleeding edge developemnt. |
| 18:31.36 | cr2 | donn: not 26MB please :) |
| 18:31.57 | donn | yeah, but with a link, don't know what is in the files |
| 18:33.51 | donn | cr2: hm...k www.tuningchannel.de/mod.zip |
| 18:33.52 | donn | :-P |
| 18:36.12 | donn | do you disammble some files? |
| 18:36.27 | cr2 | you have a nice channel. 4MBps :) |
| 18:36.38 | cr2 | yes. |
| 18:37.08 | cr2 | great. sdhc is there. |
| 18:37.30 | donn | hehe, thanks .) |
| 18:37.39 | donn | 4 mbps? ui :-P |
| 18:37.43 | donn | cool |
| 18:37.55 | cr2 | says wget. |
| 18:38.05 | donn | can be.. i have only 3 Mbit download |
| 18:38.08 | donn | downstream |
| 18:38.15 | donn | but my server has 100... so, can be :-P |
| 18:39.26 | cr2 | you can delete the file. |
| 18:39.54 | donn | yeap, thanks |
| 18:40.24 | donn | if you need some space, ask me.. i have a little bit |
| 18:41.06 | cr2 | interesting. you have xpanellog |
| 18:41.08 | donn | :-) |
| 18:42.09 | donn | what does it mean? |
| 18:42.50 | cr2 | it's some gsm debug tracing tool. |
| 18:43.05 | cr2 | if it was not the garmin, i would have never touched omap :) |
| 18:43.21 | donn | ah :) |
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| 19:07.24 | donn | everything all right cr2? all files in the zip? |
| 19:07.53 | cr2 | the code is quite simple. |
| 19:08.01 | donn | thats nice to hear |
| 19:08.08 | donn | do you disammble the fileß |
| 19:08.09 | donn | ? |
| 19:08.18 | donn | or which application you use? |
| 19:08.21 | cr2 | the SD is at the right place, the registers are 16bit with 2byte offsets. |
| 19:08.44 | donn | means, you think, it is possible to get the sd card as a hard disk? |
| 19:08.46 | cr2 | we probably just miss the power gpio |
| 19:08.55 | cr2 | demo version of ida pro. |
| 19:09.42 | cr2 | it's time limited, so you need to know what you are doing :) |
| 19:10.00 | cr2 | check the code fast, because the program closes. |
| 19:10.15 | cr2 | restart again if needed. |
| 19:10.27 | donn | aaah |
| 19:10.44 | donn | and what you hope to do with the files? |
| 19:10.52 | donn | create a new one?? |
| 19:10.56 | cr2 | lol. and the full register names are documented. cool. |
| 19:11.16 | donn | lol |
| 19:11.31 | cr2 | btw, you probably may trace the gpio with haret. but we need KEvin2 for that. |
| 19:11.31 | donn | never thought that comments are avaible after disammbling |
| 19:11.54 | cr2 | it#s some debug code that dumps all registers. |
| 19:12.11 | cr2 | printf("name=%x\",*addr); |
| 19:12.16 | donn | i am allowed to ask how old you are? |
| 19:12.16 | cr2 | something like that. |
| 19:12.24 | donn | *addr :-P typical C code..hehe |
| 19:12.35 | donn | cursor to an address, correct? |
| 19:12.43 | cr2 | will look in asm the same. |
| 19:12.48 | cr2 | i'm 36. |
| 19:12.52 | donn | ah :) |
| 19:13.03 | donn | genius know-how.. |
| 19:13.09 | cr2 | LOL. |
| 19:13.22 | donn | ;) |
| 19:14.04 | donn | okay, so we have to wait for kevin2.. :) |
| 19:24.29 | donn | http://www.microsoft.com/germany/office/newday/default.mspx -> unter Filme |
| 19:24.32 | donn | saugeile Filme :-P |
| 19:24.38 | donn | oh, sorry, wrong window |
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| 19:50.46 | donn | and, what do you thing cr2? |
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| 20:19.47 | cr2 | yes, it's the standard layout http://focus.ti.com/lit/ug/spru765a/spru765a.pdf |
| 20:20.00 | cr2 | only with .bus_shift=1 |
| 20:20.16 | cr2 | but afair omap730 does it with #ifdef |
| 20:25.40 | donn | sorry, but I don't understand really what it means |
| 20:27.55 | cr2 | heh. buggy manual. |
| 20:28.14 | donn | the thing is, i downloaded LinWizard |
| 20:28.25 | donn | and I copied it and started iot |
| 20:28.33 | donn | so I have access to SSH, and I have it |
| 20:28.35 | donn | but how you know |
| 20:28.42 | donn | the root partition is in /dev/rom0 |
| 20:29.10 | donn | so, the questions, what to do, that I have access to the SD card... |
| 20:29.18 | donn | very interesting part with the dumped files |
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| 20:37.08 | kiozen | hi |
| 20:37.14 | kiozen | just a quick update |
| 20:37.36 | kiozen | chinese support should be in repository |
| 20:37.56 | kiozen | however those Taiwan maps really kill QLandkarte |
| 20:38.12 | kiozen | wrong strategy for big files :) |
| 20:38.34 | kiozen | anyone got smaller ones ? |
| 20:39.40 | cr2 | kiozen: even the basemap ? |
| 20:40.18 | kiozen | basemap works |
| 20:40.26 | kiozen | but I get no strings |
| 20:40.46 | kiozen | haven't found out why,.. yet |
| 20:41.15 | kiozen | I can dump strings to console |
| 20:41.20 | cr2 | i've used gpsmapedit in wine, and it shows some weird glyphs. |
| 20:41.29 | cr2 | do you have a right font ? |
| 20:42.01 | kiozen | yes it's big5 coding and the strings in the console look chinese |
| 20:42.25 | kiozen | it must be some bug in QLandkarte |
| 20:42.54 | kiozen | I hope I can afford some time tomorrow to check it |
| 20:43.05 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:43.29 | kiozen | did read the logs, anything new from Garmin? |
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| 20:43.49 | kiozen | didn't, of course |
| 20:44.21 | cr2 | i'm reading the OMAP docs, and detecting even more and more known registers. |
| 20:45.00 | cr2 | btw, the 'i3' higly probably uses the same CPU, but has more RAM. |
| 20:45.14 | kiozen | any hints that there might be some accelerator to decode polygons? |
| 20:45.26 | kiozen | some shift / address unit? |
| 20:45.38 | cr2 | don't think so. |
| 20:45.41 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.07 | cr2 | btw, i've removed the screws on 76cx, but still can't open the device. so i've given up. |
| 20:46.28 | cr2 | the EEPROMs named in the fw are max 2MB. |
| 20:46.44 | cr2 | if it has 8MB as i was told, there must be 4 chips ??? |
| 20:47.04 | cr2 | then i need to find out where they are in the address space. |
| 20:47.16 | kiozen | there are some pics at geoclub, wait... |
| 20:47.58 | kiozen | http://www.geoclub.de/ftopic10220-30.html |
| 20:48.01 | cr2 | probably at 0x08000000 and 0x0c00000, but these can be virtual addresses. because the stack pointer is set to 0x0800xxxx address. |
| 20:48.35 | cr2 | looking. |
| 20:49.55 | donn | cr2: do you know what I shall do now? |
| 20:50.17 | donn | deinstlal it? |
| 20:51.06 | donn | :-P |
| 20:51.45 | cr2 | kiozen: not very helpful. |
| 20:51.49 | cr2 | donn: what ? |
| 20:53.08 | donn | what should I do now with the SD Card Space? |
| 20:53.35 | cr2 | yes, you can remove it. |
| 20:53.42 | cr2 | thanks :) |
| 20:54.14 | donn | hehe, no, the one on my pocket pc |
| 20:54.27 | donn | the Haret.exe incl. the LInux Distribution LinWizard |
| 20:55.00 | donn | or do you have a solution? :-P |
| 20:58.10 | cr2 | no. but as i've said the mmc/sd driver should work. the problem is probably in a missing power gpio/ irq. |
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| 21:08.38 | kiozen | opened mine: everything is covered to avoid EMV |
| 21:10.55 | BabelO | tsdogs: are you here ? |
| 21:11.03 | tsdogs | yes |
| 21:11.29 | BabelO | how do i solve this from opie-image compile ? |
| 21:11.36 | BabelO | ->/local/OE/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include/linux/wireless.h:646: error: '__s32' does not name a type |
| 21:12.18 | tsdogs | you need to edit the wireless.h and add an include <types.h> or something like that, let me check |
| 21:12.37 | BabelO | ok thanks |
| 21:13.26 | tsdogs | also if.h |
| 21:13.44 | tsdogs | #include <linux/types.h> |
| 21:13.50 | tsdogs | #include <linux/if.h> |
| 21:14.08 | tsdogs | I never understood why, they are included in the source (?) |
| 21:14.35 | BabelO | tsdogs: i see same patch in qtopia device subdir |
| 21:14.45 | tsdogs | :) |
| 21:16.15 | BabelO | thanks, i try again :( take a long long time to build with OE |
| 21:16.52 | tsdogs | something like a week or so (depends on how many bugs are there) |
| 21:17.04 | BabelO | got an issue building kernel too, i bypass it, i ve to replace kernel when all finish |
| 21:17.19 | kiozen | cr2: nothing to see in there just little metallboxes. |
| 21:17.19 | cr2 | kiozen: i'm going step by step, found only 1 undocumented register so far. but it's known what's written there: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=60Cx_registers |
| 21:18.36 | cr2 | kiozen: hmm. the flash chips and SDRAM chips are interesting. in general it seems to be a rather standard OMAP CPU. |
| 21:18.59 | BabelO | tsdogs: again, thanks for this fix |
| 21:19.37 | kiozen | I just don't dare to remove the metal covers, some a soldered |
| 21:19.52 | cr2 | yes, i understand it. |
| 21:19.57 | kiozen | you list is getting quit eimpressive |
| 21:20.08 | cr2 | don't destroy the device :) |
| 21:20.54 | kiozen | no, no, now I know how to remove the front in case I get one from a dummy device without scratches :) |
| 21:21.15 | cr2 | kiozen: it's very simple compared to the phones ;) only the keyboard and LCD. and timers+watchdogs. |
| 21:21.45 | kiozen | cool it has a watchdog? |
| 21:21.57 | cr2 | 2 serial ports. 1 for external NMEA and the other one for sirf3. i guess. |
| 21:22.27 | kiozen | yep makes sense, serial is the bit round thing with 4 pins |
| 21:22.36 | cr2 | kiozen: how do you think it suspends at a timeout ? or dims the backlight. |
| 21:22.57 | tsdogs | BabelO: for the kernel I use "bitbake -b <path to OE>/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_cvs.bb" |
| 21:23.08 | kiozen | internal timer |
| 21:23.12 | cr2 | kiozen: mmc and usb. all supported. |
| 21:23.13 | tsdogs | BabelO: But for development I suggest you to use your own |
| 21:23.35 | kiozen | by the hardware, not by Garmin :) |
| 21:23.50 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes, when compile finish, i add my own kernel to opie-image... it have latest acx patch ;) |
| 21:23.55 | donn | cr2... sry, i was made something to eat^^ |
| 21:24.04 | tsdogs | ;) |
| 21:24.04 | donn | red your text about the missing power gpio/ irq. |
| 21:24.09 | donn | what does it mean now? |
| 21:24.12 | cr2 | kiozen: by linux :) |
| 21:24.31 | kiozen | that's the dream |
| 21:24.38 | cr2 | donn: somebody needs to trace the gpio. but wait for Kevin2 |
| 21:24.53 | donn | ah, k, now I now what to do :) |
| 21:25.14 | donn | thanks, my english isn't the best, so I didn't follow the meaning, what I have to do now |
| 21:25.20 | cr2 | kiozen: it's actually only some things that stop booting linux. |
| 21:25.27 | cr2 | donn: to wait. |
| 21:25.31 | donn | :) |
| 21:25.34 | donn | yes, thanks |
| 21:25.46 | kiozen | which ones? |
| 21:25.59 | cr2 | donn: the situation is much better than i thought. more simple. |
| 21:26.07 | donn | :) thats very good |
| 21:26.10 | donn | should I upload the files again for him? |
| 21:27.14 | donn | Are you a micro developer or something else, or is it only a hobby from you? |
| 21:27.52 | donn | micro processor developer i mean |
| 21:27.54 | cr2 | kiozen: the RAM base location, if it is 0x10000000 or not. the RAM size is 4MB if we trust the manual. if the device is in 1:1 MMU off or MMU on+virtual addresses. |
| 21:28.04 | cr2 | donn: a hobby. |
| 21:28.09 | donn | wow, not bad |
| 21:28.15 | donn | do you work with computers, something else? |
| 21:28.26 | cr2 | donn: you don't need to upload files. |
| 21:28.32 | donn | kk :) |
| 21:29.13 | cr2 | donn: i work in the university. |
| 21:29.28 | cr2 | do experimental physics. |
| 21:29.28 | donn | oh.. or something like that :) |
| 21:29.30 | BabelO | tsdogs: grrrhhh, new error with opie-dagger :( |
| 21:29.31 | donn | wow |
| 21:29.34 | donn | sounds great |
| 21:29.44 | tsdogs | which one? |
| 21:29.51 | donn | and where do you live, when I am allowed to ask? |
| 21:29.54 | donn | country |
| 21:30.13 | cr2 | http://crista.uni-wuppertal.de |
| 21:30.15 | BabelO | tsdogs: opentextdlg.cpp:66: error: invalid use of undefined type 'struct sword::SWModule' |
| 21:30.35 | donn | wow :) thats sounds great... |
| 21:30.38 | donn | nicht schlecht :) |
| 21:30.44 | cr2 | :) |
| 21:30.54 | donn | I come from Düsseldorf |
| 21:30.54 | tsdogs | BabelO: hmm don't think I ever seen that :( |
| 21:30.57 | donn | close to it |
| 21:30.57 | tsdogs | checking |
| 21:31.04 | cr2 | donn: LOL. |
| 21:31.07 | donn | ;) |
| 21:31.09 | donn | hehe |
| 21:31.28 | cr2 | there are a lot of crazy hackers in Germany |
| 21:31.29 | BabelO | tsdogs: ok, i ll loook and fix it |
| 21:31.37 | donn | hehe, yeah, thats right |
| 21:31.52 | donn | On wednesday I have my exam in informatic |
| 21:32.00 | cr2 | good luck :) |
| 21:32.03 | donn | thanks :) |
| 21:32.18 | donn | The most, I made... writing and practical exam |
| 21:32.32 | donn | I am glad... ~1,9 |
| 21:32.36 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:32.46 | tsdogs | BabelO: maybe you are missing libsword |
| 21:32.48 | donn | so I have to made a on in development on wednesday :( |
| 21:32.54 | donn | a one |
| 21:33.05 | donn | do you know Kaarst or Neuss? |
| 21:33.15 | cr2 | donn: if nothing else goes, we can eventually meet and trace the gpios. |
| 21:33.18 | cr2 | sure. |
| 21:33.25 | tsdogs | BabelO: try doing bitbake sword |
| 21:33.30 | donn | yeah, that would be great |
| 21:33.42 | BabelO | cr2: you are doing lot of interesting thing |
| 21:34.26 | donn | oh yes, he does |
| 21:34.41 | donn | well, my best part is develop applications for 3D movies |
| 21:34.46 | donn | thats my hobby .) |
| 21:34.52 | cr2 | BabelO: it's actually more in the past. now we have not much money & so on. |
| 21:35.30 | BabelO | cr2: go to france, and try EADS ;) |
| 21:35.32 | cr2 | but the satellite flying on shuttle was fun. |
| 21:35.50 | BabelO | cr2: does it had embedded ham radio ? |
| 21:36.08 | cr2 | BabelO: i know 3 languages, but french is not one of them :) |
| 21:36.17 | donn | hehe :) |
| 21:36.23 | donn | i can help you with "salut" and "au revoir" |
| 21:36.26 | donn | haha |
| 21:36.41 | cr2 | BabelO: which one ? |
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| 21:37.11 | BabelO | cr2: i ve a radio scanner and some old studies in ham radio. |
| 21:37.22 | donn | Babel: you come from france? |
| 21:37.27 | BabelO | donn: yes |
| 21:37.46 | BabelO | cr2: badn 2.5Ghz and 1.2 Ghz relay maybe ? |
| 21:37.50 | donn | C'est bon :) Je parle francais en peu...hehe |
| 21:38.23 | cr2 | BabelO: no. |
| 21:38.23 | BabelO | :) |
| 21:38.54 | BabelO | cr2: how do you access to measure ? |
| 21:39.12 | kiozen | good night, guys, have to be fit to hunt chineese bugs in Taiwan, tomorrow. :) |
| 21:39.26 | BabelO | cr2: there is a nice tool, i play with it sometimes, only for fun, i m very curious |
| 21:39.29 | tsdogs | kiozen: good night :) |
| 21:39.32 | BabelO | good nigh kiozen |
| 21:40.04 | donn | cr2: Do you know, when the best time is, to reach Kevin2? |
| 21:40.20 | donn | by email or something else? sms, email, irc, msn, skype? little joke :-P |
| 21:40.40 | cr2 | donn: he is from the US. |
| 21:40.43 | tsdogs | cr2: I think roadmap_editor is using imperial metrics, and changing it won't do much :(, do you confirm? |
| 21:40.44 | donn | ah :) |
| 21:40.49 | donn | I travel to him |
| 21:40.51 | donn | :) |
| 21:40.53 | BabelO | cr2: i play with this sometines, it is funny to see all plane http://www.acarsd.org/ |
| 21:41.55 | cr2 | tsdogs: yes, but my display is in m and km/h |
| 21:41.56 | cr2 | BabelO: looks nice. |
| 21:42.04 | donn | BabelO: it is, what I think? |
| 21:42.19 | donn | you can trace the flight comments and so on? |
| 21:42.23 | cr2 | tsdogs: and the calculated route is reasonable. |
| 21:42.26 | donn | http://www.polarorbiter.co.uk/Graphics/Acarsd.JPG |
| 21:42.26 | donn | ? |
| 21:42.27 | tsdogs | cr2: hmm, so it actually is working. |
| 21:42.34 | BabelO | cr2: yes, you can see all proximity plane and trace them if you are connected to internet |
| 21:42.40 | donn | wow |
| 21:42.47 | donn | it is for free? |
| 21:42.47 | tsdogs | I tryed changing it, but no results, I'll check. thx |
| 21:42.52 | donn | can I remote them? :-D^^ |
| 21:43.25 | tsdogs | cr2: ok it's working. |
| 21:44.10 | BabelO | donn: yes for free, you need a receiver for 124.75 Mhz, or another frequency in this range ( never remember exact frequency) and connect sound ouput to your computer sound card ;) |
| 21:44.11 | cr2 | tsdogs: good. |
| 21:44.37 | donn | ah, k |
| 21:44.44 | donn | so I need hardware? |
| 21:44.46 | donn | or internet? |
| 21:44.54 | BabelO | donn: yes |
| 21:44.59 | donn | hardware, k |
| 21:45.01 | donn | hm |
| 21:45.16 | donn | amazing but expensive |
| 21:45.17 | donn | :) |
| 21:45.34 | cr2 | tsdogs: we need to make some changes to buildmap_postgres.c |
| 21:45.44 | donn | i think, this here is very amazing |
| 21:45.44 | donn | http://www.tuningchannel.de/misc/schaltung2.jpg |
| 21:45.49 | donn | thats very cool |
| 21:46.00 | donn | www.tuningchannel.de/misc/boom.mov |
| 21:46.06 | tsdogs | cr2: ok. you are the master here :) |
| 21:46.43 | donn | the video boom.mov is very interesting :) |
| 21:47.04 | tsdogs | cr2: you know what dilution is? |
| 21:47.05 | donn | it has bugs, I know, but that is only the question of tim e.) |
| 21:47.10 | cr2 | tsdogs: ok, i'll extend the database support to match the tiger. but the renderer should also draw the strings. |
| 21:47.48 | tsdogs | you need to tell me which structure will the map have, then I can modify the drawing. |
| 21:47.48 | cr2 | tsdogs: each polygon actually should have a name |
| 21:48.02 | tsdogs | even forests? |
| 21:48.15 | BabelO | tsdogs: same issue with sword |
| 21:48.59 | tsdogs | BabelO: I think I saw it some time ago, but don't remeber how I fixed it, probably updated cvs manually |
| 21:49.04 | cr2 | there is a polygon "centroid" (called landmark by roadmap/tiger) , which has a unique number, layer (cfcc) and name. |
| 21:49.35 | cr2 | the layer type does not matter. you can names forests if you'd like. |
| 21:49.52 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:50.17 | cr2 | so effectively each polygon has unique number and a name. |
| 21:50.28 | donn | polygon? |
| 21:50.32 | donn | polygon from geometryß |
| 21:50.33 | donn | ? |
| 21:50.35 | cr2 | so you can search by this number and plot the name. |
| 21:50.38 | donn | or another kind of polygon? |
| 21:50.56 | cr2 | donn: yes, it's for gps maps. |
| 21:51.02 | donn | ah, this kinds :) k |
| 21:51.13 | tsdogs | cr2: ok |
| 21:51.20 | donn | though you spoke from Polygons from 3D :) |
| 21:51.26 | cr2 | tsdogs: but i don#t see the coordinates for the landmark. |
| 21:51.46 | cr2 | and the 'search_landmark' is static in the current code. |
| 21:51.57 | cr2 | then there is something called 'place' |
| 21:52.01 | tsdogs | have you checked in cvs also? |
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| 21:52.25 | donn | re |
| 21:52.25 | cr2 | it's broken in the current code (SHAPEFILES=NO, and is not 64bit safe) |
| 21:52.25 | tsdogs | we can implement it our way anyway. |
| 21:52.47 | cr2 | tsdogs: but we can simply add it to postgis. |
| 21:53.01 | cr2 | why read in the TXT or shapefiles. |
| 21:53.12 | cr2 | these are points with coordinates and names. |
| 21:53.25 | tsdogs | sure, it's the most complete/standard right now |
| 21:54.13 | cr2 | very good for towns/villages, but we need to link the icons(sprites?) to its layer 'cfcc' |
| 21:54.19 | tsdogs | ok, so the place should be a poi (city, resturant or whatever, which is a sprite in roadmap) |
| 21:54.28 | cr2 | and use it for generic POI. |
| 21:54.41 | tsdogs | :) |
| 21:54.56 | cr2 | the current code has 1 'border' layer, but it can be extended. |
| 21:55.19 | tsdogs | what actually are borders ? (I mean in the map) |
| 21:55.45 | cr2 | if we will add line styles and polygon fill patterns, then we can draw railroads and do other useful stuff. |
| 21:55.56 | cr2 | im my map ? i put the rivers there. |
| 21:56.04 | cr2 | rivers+streams |
| 21:57.22 | cr2 | but it can be any polyline layer. |
| 21:57.22 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 21:57.22 | cr2 | railways, powerlines, pipelines, whatever. |
| 21:57.22 | tsdogs | ok, are you able to get the line style from postgis? |
| 21:57.23 | cr2 | we just need to attach the style through ~/.roadmap/schema |
| 21:57.23 | tsdogs | also fill pattern. |
| 21:57.23 | cr2 | lines don't have fill patterns :) |
| 21:57.28 | tsdogs | ok, then we need to decide the cfcc |
| 21:57.33 | tsdogs | :) |
| 21:57.36 | tsdogs | lol |
| 21:57.46 | cr2 | it's in the database. 'type' in garmin speak. |
| 21:58.13 | cr2 | QLandkarte is a good reference in that respect. |
| 21:58.29 | tsdogs | ok, i haven't looked at the roadmap structure yet |
| 21:58.30 | cr2 | and the .skin files do essentially the same. |
| 21:58.54 | tsdogs | I saw they added the night/day skins to MAIN |
| 21:59.10 | tsdogs | you were talking about 65535 lines limit |
| 21:59.13 | cr2 | roadmap uses the terminology of TIGER. so sometimes it's a bit confusing. |
| 21:59.23 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:59.41 | cr2 | yes, per 'county' - the lowest administrative division. |
| 21:59.54 | cr2 | garmin maps are arranged in a different way. |
| 22:00.07 | cr2 | they are split in square tiles |
| 22:00.15 | cr2 | pure geographically. |
| 22:00.44 | tsdogs | ok, but splitting a plygon between them would be dificult |
| 22:00.53 | cr2 | and then the references are gathered in an index table, so you know which object is in which "county". |
| 22:01.26 | cr2 | it's not difficult given the right software. |
| 22:01.27 | tsdogs | that sound reasonable. |
| 22:01.50 | cr2 | even postgis can do it for you. and not necessary on a rectangular grid. |
| 22:02.07 | cr2 | cut by polygon is also very simple. |
| 22:02.32 | tsdogs | ok, but if possible I'd go for the squares/rectanlges |
| 22:02.57 | cr2 | the only problem is to add the routing nodes at the cut points, and gather the common .dgl file from county.dgl |
| 22:03.03 | tsdogs | I think this is a matter of buildmap |
| 22:03.28 | cr2 | yes. we need to cooperate with kiozen here. |
| 22:03.47 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 22:04.06 | tsdogs | navigating through county can be triky for road calculation... |
| 22:04.13 | cr2 | he may just write a library with the "roadmap" api. or some common api, so roadmap can use different map formats. |
| 22:05.17 | cr2 | have you compiled a qtopia version ? |
| 22:05.18 | tsdogs | not yet. |
| 22:05.18 | cr2 | i#m curious how it performs the route calculations. |
| 22:05.19 | tsdogs | I wanted to finish the gps app, which is pretty simple. |
| 22:05.24 | tsdogs | I actually tryed the roadmap (not editor) and it performed good |
| 22:05.37 | cr2 | because my dual opteron should not be a reference point ;) here everything is fast. |
| 22:05.37 | tsdogs | but was just a few tests |
| 22:05.40 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:05.48 | cr2 | roadmap can't do route planning. |
| 22:06.54 | tsdogs | if could calculate I think, maybe I'm worg, hmm. Have't started the SDK for some time now. |
| 22:07.01 | tsdogs | I'll be testing it tomorrow. |
| 22:07.06 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:07.29 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.39 | tsdogs | this turns me back to a missed question: you know what dilution is? |
| 22:07.43 | BabelO | upds, sorry the cat :) |
| 22:07.46 | tsdogs | BabelO: cat? |
| 22:08.10 | cr2 | DOP ? |
| 22:08.20 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes, she is very silly today |
| 22:09.06 | BabelO | tsdogs: ok opie-dagger is compiled now, i fix it badly |
| 22:09.16 | tsdogs | :) good |
| 22:10.08 | tsdogs | cr2: was that a NOP? |
| 22:10.16 | tsdogs | it's from gps precision. |
| 22:11.24 | donn | so, night @all |
| 22:11.28 | donn | i go to bed now :) |
| 22:11.37 | BabelO | donn: good night |
| 22:11.38 | donn | Gute Nacht CR2 :) Danke vielmals für deine Hilfe. |
| 22:11.48 | donn | night babel ;) |
| 22:12.03 | donn | you should have one o'clock Babel, right? |
| 22:12.04 | tsdogs | good night donn |
| 22:12.24 | BabelO | donn: no 0h14 :) but still up to 2:00 |
| 22:12.42 | BabelO | have a lot of debug to do for work |
| 22:13.15 | donn | ah, k :) night |
| 22:13.35 | donn | @CR2: i come back tomorrow, perhaps Kevin2 is here... that woudl be really great, bye |
| 22:15.29 | BabelO | tsdogs: is my hard drive enought for oe ? i m not sure now, it build gtk some x11 stuff, and all for opie, look strange |
| 22:16.36 | tsdogs | I know, cr2 was mentioning conspiracy time ago :) It's enough, be sure to use the rm_work, or you'll get filled very fast. |
| 22:17.10 | BabelO | rm_work ? |
| 22:17.46 | tsdogs | in local.conf |
| 22:18.20 | tsdogs | inherit rm_work or something like that |
| 22:18.20 | BabelO | ok |
| 22:18.52 | tsdogs | the onlydrawn back is that it deletes the build source/objects when it's done. Not good for developing. |
| 22:19.02 | tsdogs | very good for CVS though |
| 22:19.33 | BabelO | ok |
| 22:20.20 | BabelO | i ll look for phoneme today, but can't compile it easily, lot of error |
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| 22:24.14 | BabelO | cr2: you say "i know 3 languages, but french is not one of them :)" which one ? |
| 22:27.17 | BabelO | cr2: is it native, assembler and C :) |
| 22:32.11 | BabelO | tsdogs: any idea for this error, got it from my phone app : qgnokii.h:18: Error: Class contains Q_OBJECT macro but does not inherit from QObject |
| 22:32.36 | tsdogs | hmm seems some strange cast |
| 22:33.06 | BabelO | yes, but don't understand, i need it to compile a previous class, and got error on this one :( |
| 22:33.47 | tsdogs | there is some strange code which makes the compiler give you this error. |
| 22:33.57 | tsdogs | is it only mentioning the .h file? |
| 22:34.00 | BabelO | i do a thread for modem event... :) |
| 22:34.45 | tsdogs | can you pastbin? |
| 22:35.08 | BabelO | yes, i do better, i compress code and send it to you |
| 22:35.28 | tsdogs | :) ok |
| 22:36.10 | BabelO | it is not working, i only add all class i need.. dialer class is working and gnokii class also, missing callscreen class |
| 22:36.54 | tsdogs | ok |
| 22:36.59 | tsdogs | cr2: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/gpsconsole2.png |
| 22:37.08 | tsdogs | should I add the direction too? :) |
| 22:40.11 | BabelO | tsdogs: just copy it to your src/application directory, unpack, and then try make |
| 22:40.24 | tsdogs | BabelO: ok |
| 22:40.59 | BabelO | tsdogs: your screen look nice ;) better than black one |
| 22:41.36 | tsdogs | :) I took ideas from here: http://www.gpsmoldova.com/navitel/indexen.html |
| 22:41.41 | BabelO | speed 44km/h... really fast to take screenshot |
| 22:41.46 | cr2 | tsdogs: looks nice :) number of satellites used for calculating the fix ? |
| 22:42.02 | cr2 | BabelO: it's gpsfake :) |
| 22:42.07 | tsdogs | I have to calculate it |
| 22:42.18 | tsdogs | BabelO: :) lol |
| 22:42.28 | tsdogs | I'm also chatting :) |
| 22:43.10 | BabelO | how many satellite can we add at same time ? i know for minimum needed.. max gps satellite on fly are 24 and some spare |
| 22:43.37 | cr2 | hmmm. they have killed the datasheet. |
| 22:43.41 | cr2 | http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:BDLqNha62wgJ:focus.tij.co.jp/jp/dsp/docs/dspsupporttechdocsc.tsp%3FsectionId%3D3%26tabId%3D409%26familyId%3D325%26abstractName%3Dspru742+spru742.pdf&hl=de&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=de |
| 22:43.47 | cr2 | 8MB+ |
| 22:43.56 | tsdogs | BabelO: ok building |
| 22:44.03 | cr2 | but i can download only broken 106K |
| 22:44.47 | BabelO | cr2: you can read japanes ? ;) all your web site these day are from there |
| 22:46.03 | cr2 | OMAP5912 Technical Reference Guide (spru742.htm, 0 KB) |
| 22:46.17 | BabelO | cr2: http://focus.ti.com/dsp/docs/dspsupporttechdocsc.tsp?abstractName=spru742§ionId=3&tabId=409 |
| 22:47.45 | cr2 | PDF Download .pdf (spru742.pdf, 106 Kbytes) |
| 22:47.48 | cr2 | it is junk. |
| 22:47.53 | cr2 | i need 8.3MB |
| 22:48.16 | cr2 | there are multiple quotations of this datasheet on the linux-omap mailingl list. |
| 22:50.30 | tsdogs | BabelO: I think that's because you created a simple class with Q_OBJECT macro in it |
| 22:50.50 | tsdogs | you either need to remove the Q_OBJECT or inherit from it |
| 22:51.41 | BabelO | if i remove it got an error message in other class saying it miss |
| 22:52.09 | tsdogs | hmm, then so public QObject |
| 22:52.38 | BabelO | ok, i ll try agin with QThread |
| 22:53.27 | tsdogs | I think that's because of the public slots declaration. It need Q_OBJECT, but it must iherit from it too |
| 22:54.39 | BabelO | yes good idea, it compile now, without slots :) |
| 22:54.44 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:55.04 | BabelO | hum , no :( same error |
| 22:57.24 | tsdogs | BabelO: If i remove the slots, I get some not named types ? |
| 22:57.35 | tsdogs | in callscreen.h |
| 22:57.54 | BabelO | is it the first error message ? |
| 22:58.28 | tsdogs | yes |
| 22:58.45 | BabelO | so you just remove slots ? |
| 22:59.21 | tsdogs | only the slots word |
| 22:59.24 | tsdogs | leave the others. |
| 22:59.41 | tsdogs | if you need them though you should inherit from QObject |
| 23:00.39 | BabelO | ok :( i ve to split it in to class so |
| 23:01.02 | tsdogs | If you need a thread do it simply with QThread, much esayer task |
| 23:01.53 | BabelO | yes that what i do first time, but want to follow qphonecall structure which is not provided in qtopia |
| 23:02.08 | BabelO | bad idea |
| 23:02.14 | tsdogs | ok :) |
| 23:04.01 | tsdogs | anyway removing slots/signals seems to go on, qgnokii.o has been created |
| 23:04.53 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes but fail in moc_qgnokii.cpp after |
| 23:07.29 | tsdogs | ok, need to fix callscreen first |
| 23:12.14 | BabelO | cr2: you find omap5912 datasheet ? |
| 23:13.34 | BabelO | cr2: else look this one http://www.chipcatalog.com/Datasheet/12DAFF79CBCE3F8D8FDB1D4D6E5B5CC0.htm |
| 23:16.52 | cr2 | BabelO: it's a short one. 4 times smaller ... |
| 23:17.35 | BabelO | yes i see i read it quicly, all other need paypal |
| 23:17.49 | tsdogs | BabelO: it's a header include problem |
| 23:18.46 | BabelO | tsdogs: maybe i spent lot of time to play with header |
| 23:19.05 | tsdogs | You need the ifndef for QKNOKII_H |
| 23:19.18 | tsdogs | and then include "qgnokii.h" into callscreen.h |
| 23:19.33 | tsdogs | and ofcourse remove the slots |
| 23:19.39 | Kevin2 | Wow, lots of traffic today. |
| 23:19.56 | BabelO | rooooo, yes yes, i don't do it ? time to go bed ... :( |
| 23:20.04 | BabelO | hi Kevin2 |
| 23:20.09 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:20.20 | tsdogs | ho remove class QGnokii from callscreen |
| 23:20.42 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 23:22.06 | cr2 | Kevin2: it seems that omap only misses the SD power gpio. |
| 23:22.10 | cr2 | hi |
| 23:22.40 | Kevin2 | cr2: Do we know how to read/write omap gpios in memory? |
| 23:22.43 | tsdogs | BabelO: hmm still undefined simbols |
| 23:23.29 | cr2 | Kevin2: i think yes. |
| 23:24.10 | BabelO | tsdogs: going to bed looking for it tomorrow evening |
| 23:24.14 | BabelO | good night |
| 23:24.19 | tsdogs | good night. |
| 23:25.13 | cr2 | good night. |
| 23:26.18 | Kevin2 | cr2: Should be straight forward - just add a bunch of "addlist GPIOS p2v(0x56000004)" and then "watch gpios". |
| 23:28.20 | cr2 | Kevin2: i don't have such wince device ;) |
| 23:28.41 | cr2 | btw, it seems i have found the docs for 99% of registers. |
| 23:29.30 | Kevin2 | cr2: You could always port your Garmin to wince. ;-) |
| 23:29.36 | cr2 | LOL. |
| 23:29.48 | cr2 | 0xFFFE6000 - this is the only missing block. |
| 23:29.57 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=60Cx_registers |
| 23:30.58 | cr2 | i get some strange unaligned addresses in () |
| 23:31.10 | cr2 | maybe i'll try objdump. |
| 23:34.49 | Kevin2 | I'll be back later. |
| 23:37.44 | cr2 | stupid ida ;) |
| 23:59.26 | tsdogs | ok. let's change for today: sweet hacking dreams everybody :) |
