| 00:00.04 | cr2 | this stupid warning again. |
| 00:00.21 | cr2 | line 8765, column 1: Too many long lines |
| 00:00.25 | cr2 | crashed. |
| 00:00.46 | BabelO | long lines ? |
| 00:00.55 | cr2 | it seems that some road has too many segments. |
| 00:01.29 | cr2 | not a very smart format. has some very good ideas, but not brought to an end. |
| 00:01.33 | BabelO | it is road 66 from us ? |
| 00:01.35 | BabelO | :) |
| 00:01.40 | cr2 | :) |
| 00:01.48 | cr2 | you can do it with any road. |
| 00:01.59 | cr2 | just create a zillion of segments. |
| 00:02.21 | cr2 | it was set to 500 |
| 00:02.28 | cr2 | i have upped it to 5000 |
| 00:02.30 | cr2 | for tsdogs. |
| 00:02.44 | cr2 | now i'll up it to 50000 :) |
| 00:03.28 | BabelO | do you use this tools too ? http://geos.refractions.net/ |
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| 00:06.01 | cr2 | yes, postgis is using geos |
| 00:06.04 | cr2 | -- street: 31980 items, 54003 hits, 505921 bytes |
| 00:06.27 | cr2 | built. |
| 00:07.05 | cr2 | ready to test :) |
| 00:07.10 | BabelO | ok i understand what you say yesturday now, there is also GISToolkit editor, but java |
| 00:08.15 | cr2 | qgis is written in qt. |
| 00:08.21 | cr2 | http://qgis.org |
| 00:08.47 | cr2 | you can view maps, edit maps and overlay them over pictures, etc. |
| 00:09.00 | cr2 | even GRASS is built-in in some sense. |
| 00:09.11 | cr2 | but it uses qt3compat. |
| 00:09.26 | cr2 | so you can't use it on htcphone ;) |
| 00:10.00 | BabelO | wait, when i can build with bitbake, i have to try many thing |
| 00:11.00 | cr2 | wow, it blows my mind :) |
| 00:11.12 | cr2 | it works. |
| 00:11.15 | cr2 | :) |
| 00:11.26 | cr2 | what problems do you have with bitbake ? |
| 00:11.32 | BabelO | a screenshot ;) |
| 00:11.50 | BabelO | oh, i ve to setup again it, and now i have enought space to play with |
| 00:12.01 | cr2 | the rivers=borders are black. |
| 00:12.06 | cr2 | need to make them blue. |
| 00:12.37 | cr2 | the whole color palette is a piece of shit. |
| 00:12.55 | cr2 | m$ would have fired me for such visual design :) |
| 00:14.51 | cr2 | BabelO: it's only the road network that i have now. |
| 00:16.58 | cr2 | i don't have any turn restrictions. need to create some :) |
| 00:17.06 | BabelO | where is bitbake howto ? |
| 00:18.01 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 00:18.10 | BabelO | found |
| 00:18.11 | cr2 | in the oe wiki ? |
| 00:18.23 | BabelO | yes http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 00:19.59 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:20.15 | cr2 | "this is not a linestring". wtf ? |
| 00:23.40 | cr2 | BabelO: how do i drop the contents of a table ? |
| 00:24.04 | cr2 | to remove the records. |
| 00:24.06 | BabelO | delete from table_name; |
| 00:24.23 | cr2 | ok :) |
| 00:25.19 | BabelO | i understand now where i lose space on my old hard drive ;) |
| 00:25.19 | cr2 | hm. it dislikes something about the water polygons. |
| 00:25.30 | BabelO | OE.mtn -> 117 Mo |
| 00:26.28 | cr2 | i think mine is about 10G |
| 00:26.46 | cr2 | the ~/stuff diretory. |
| 00:26.50 | BabelO | it is only basoc database without any stuff... |
| 00:27.03 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.06 | cr2 | yes, but it's a complete tree. |
| 00:27.12 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:37.12 | cr2 | it certainly likes highways for route calculations. |
| 00:40.26 | cr2 | length : 90km time: 90min |
| 00:40.51 | cr2 | sounds reasonable. |
| 00:41.11 | BabelO | yes, depends of the car ;) BMW or mercedes or AUDY ? |
| 00:42.13 | BabelO | strange i donwload OE db and i have to migrate it |
| 00:43.08 | cr2 | 1 km/min is 60km/h |
| 00:43.41 | cr2 | strange, i've mixed something in the layer type translation. |
| 00:44.00 | cr2 | the most important highway is a residential street ;) |
| 00:50.10 | cr2 | oo. error calculating route. |
| 00:50.15 | cr2 | 250km route was ok. |
| 00:50.53 | cr2 | hmm. it does not say "route not found". the bug must be somewhere else. |
| 00:52.22 | cr2 | 271km is ok. |
| 00:57.29 | cr2 | ok, so on very complex routes it sometimes fails. |
| 00:57.46 | BabelO | cr2: in which directory do i start bitbake ? |
| 00:58.01 | BabelO | in build directory ? |
| 00:59.49 | BabelO | linuxbox:/local/OE/build # bitbake nano |
| 00:59.49 | BabelO | ERROR: Error in executing: |
| 00:59.49 | BabelO | ERROR: Exception:exceptions.ImportError Message:No module named distutils.version |
| 01:01.51 | cr2 | in ~/stuff |
| 01:02.46 | BabelO | got only error message :( |
| 01:04.32 | cr2 | bitbake , build, org.openembedded.dev |
| 01:04.54 | cr2 | export PATH=`pwd`/bitbake/bin:$PATH |
| 01:04.54 | cr2 | export BBPATH=`pwd`/build:`pwd`/org.openembedded.dev |
| 01:04.54 | cr2 | bitbake opie-image |
| 01:05.03 | cr2 | i run it with such script. |
| 01:05.16 | BabelO | yes i have same script |
| 01:05.39 | cr2 | there is some debuggng flag for bitbake. |
| 01:06.04 | cr2 | lol. i've forgot to translate the garmin road types to roadmap. |
| 01:07.55 | BabelO | :) |
| 01:08.07 | BabelO | ok i miss something No module named distutils.version |
| 01:08.37 | cr2 | is it a bitbake error ? |
| 01:09.17 | BabelO | it seem yes |
| 01:10.08 | BabelO | ok it is a python error |
| 01:10.18 | BabelO | for disutils package |
| 01:11.16 | cr2 | did you install a complete python ? |
| 01:11.51 | BabelO | no i don t think, doing it |
| 01:12.18 | BabelO | and goinf to ned, really late now |
| 01:13.15 | BabelO | yes, really late i want to say going to bed now ;) |
| 01:13.18 | BabelO | good night |
| 01:14.07 | cr2 | good night. |
| 01:18.58 | BabelO | yes, good it is devel package i miss :) |
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| 08:43.22 | goxboxlive | good morning pH5 |
| 08:43.38 | pH5 | good morning goxboxlive |
| 08:44.07 | goxboxlive | pH5, it seems like gsmd has now our plugin in the source. So we have to remove some of our patches inOE |
| 08:47.07 | pH5 | oh great, I'll check |
| 08:47.53 | goxboxlive | good |
| 08:49.18 | goxboxlive | pH5, And it's also seems like the qulcomm modem needs it own machine file like you use. The recent one in the surce doesent work with qualcomm. |
| 08:50.21 | pH5 | goxboxlive: ok. Is that because of the numeric/verbose mode issue? |
| 08:51.24 | goxboxlive | pH5, yes i dont exactly remeber what it was but AFAIR it was because that. ANd it also needed "0" or something in the souce. I'll check it out. |
| 08:51.33 | pH5 | goxboxlive: thanks |
| 08:57.35 | goxboxlive | pH5, this was for manage to hangup a call. http://pastebin.no/1850 |
| 08:58.15 | pH5 | ah, thanks |
| 09:00.44 | goxboxlive | pH5, and i also have this one: http://pastebin.no/1851 |
| 09:01.53 | pH5 | goxboxlive: yeah, that's why we need our own machine files for phones with handhelds.org kernels |
| 09:01.55 | goxboxlive | so i guess the last one is makes us need our won machine.file |
| 09:02.00 | goxboxlive | right |
| 09:02.01 | pH5 | agreed |
| 09:02.02 | pH5 | :) |
| 09:05.44 | goxboxlive | I think the latest gsmd realease is r2135. AFAIK OE is building from r2134. lforge made some changes this morning it looks like. In the file usock.c. |
| 09:09.26 | pH5 | goxboxlive: right, I see he started to flesh out the COPS code. |
| 09:09.34 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 10:10.22 | pH5 | goxboxlive: maybe we should do something like this: http://en.pastebin.ca/533040 instead of adding another machine plugin? |
| 10:13.09 | goxboxlive | pH5, that's ok for me, but what if there are other things that are diffrent wich we dont are aware of right now. |
| 10:13.28 | goxboxlive | like how gprs is handeld and so |
| 10:22.31 | pH5 | goxboxlive: yeah, that might well be. I'm just slightly reluctant to propose adding another generic machine plugin for (currently) just one different boolean value that isn't even a machine property. (it's just specific to how/when the phone is powered on in hh.org kernels). |
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| 10:36.33 | goxboxlive | pH5, yes do what you think is best. btw the recent gsmd code doesnt work for univers, it timesout. Here is the diff i have form the source: http://en.pastebin.ca/533078 |
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| 10:39.21 | goxboxlive | pH5, and here is the output i get when i start the gsmd manually: http://en.pastebin.ca/533084 |
| 10:40.12 | goxboxlive | i'll try your patch |
| 10:53.31 | goxboxlive | No, the same happends, the modem seems dead it says |
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| 10:56.47 | pH5 | seems the new is-the-modem-still-alive stuff doesn't wait for the interpreter to be ready |
| 10:56.56 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 10:57.17 | goxboxlive | i also added -w at the command line, but didnt help |
| 10:57.33 | pH5 | I wonder why this is needed anyway, my modem never died on me. |
| 10:58.07 | pH5 | goxboxlive: does it work if you just comment out the gmsd_alive_start(&g); line in gsmd.c? |
| 10:58.20 | goxboxlive | hold on i try |
| 10:58.23 | pH5 | maybe we can make that optional |
| 11:07.12 | goxboxlive | pH5, yes that helped, it's working now. Except openmoko-dialer it segfault. |
| 11:08.23 | goxboxlive | seems like it asks for the pin code, i'll enable it. |
| 11:08.37 | pH5 | ok |
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| 11:23.42 | goxboxlive | well enabling the ping didnt help with dialer, but that doesnt mather, alt least gsmd is working again. thx. |
| 11:24.23 | pH5 | The dialer crashes for its own reasons now and then :) |
| 11:26.11 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 11:26.23 | pH5 | goxboxlive: could you check if that patch works instead of just disabling gsmd_alive_start altogether: http://en.pastebin.ca/533183 |
| 11:28.01 | goxboxlive | pH5, yes i can try |
| 11:34.42 | pH5 | thanks |
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| 11:41.21 | Babel | hi |
| 11:41.28 | Babel | goxboxlive: why OE download qt-embedded-2.3.10-free and also qt-embedded-free-3.3.5 ??? |
| 11:41.34 | Babel | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.56 | goxboxlive | hi Babel i have no idea. does it build both? |
| 11:43.09 | goxboxlive | pH5, it runs true the AT commands, but now it doesnt register incomming call. |
| 11:44.12 | Babel | i seem no, it use 2.3.10 |
| 11:45.56 | pH5 | goxboxlive: that is a strange result, thanks for trying. |
| 11:46.07 | goxboxlive | welcome |
| 11:47.37 | goxboxlive | pH5, http://pastebin.no/1853 |
| 11:49.31 | pH5 | ow, huh. what is this? AT+CFUN=1 and all subsequent commands return strange [WCDMA] messages |
| 11:52.47 | pH5 | and all this AT+CFUN=0 stuff looks like the parser is seriously confused |
| 11:52.55 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 11:53.25 | pH5 | maybe the part where it synchronously waits for the first answer to ATE0 shouldn't be called from inside the main loop. |
| 11:53.35 | pH5 | I'll play with this some more. |
| 11:53.41 | goxboxlive | good |
| 11:58.15 | goxboxlive | pH5, anyway this is my diff now, just so you know: http://pastebin.no/1854 |
| 12:10.49 | cr2 | hi |
| 12:11.31 | pH5 | hi cr2 |
| 12:12.35 | cr2 | hi pH5 |
| 12:12.49 | cr2 | have you seen that we have UMTS working ? |
| 12:13.24 | cr2 | we just didn't know about it :) |
| 12:13.30 | pH5 | no. congratulations! :) how so? |
| 12:13.43 | cr2 | on /dev/ttyUSB0 |
| 12:13.56 | cr2 | usb-serial on usb host. |
| 12:14.01 | pH5 | heh. very nice. |
| 12:14.25 | cr2 | the HSDPA on athena uses DPRAM. |
| 12:14.43 | pH5 | do we have athena people on this channel now? |
| 12:14.56 | cr2 | the DPRAM has 512byte send and 512byte receive fifo. |
| 12:15.09 | cr2 | i am ;) |
| 12:15.27 | cr2 | dpram looks like on the BA. |
| 12:15.32 | pH5 | yay |
| 12:15.58 | cr2 | i've started hacking a cpld driver, but will prefer a common one. |
| 12:16.11 | pH5 | did Kevin2 make any progress? |
| 12:16.17 | cr2 | at least i'll ignore the irq first. |
| 12:16.21 | cr2 | no afaik. |
| 12:16.41 | cr2 | the AT commands go through DPRAM. |
| 12:16.58 | cr2 | so i need some pseudo-tty for it. |
| 12:17.18 | cr2 | GPRS through DPRAM works on BA. |
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| 12:17.24 | donny510 | Hi :) |
| 12:17.28 | donny510 | I have a short question |
| 12:18.06 | donny510 | I followed the instructions of the readme to install linux on my O² XDA Neo |
| 12:18.06 | cr2 | htc name ? |
| 12:18.09 | donny510 | I made two partitions on my usb stick |
| 12:18.10 | pH5 | cr2: so you need to write a full-blown dram/serial driver? |
| 12:18.23 | donny510 | and copied everything on it, which is required |
| 12:18.38 | donny510 | I started the Haret.exe and wanted to "click" on "run" |
| 12:18.59 | donny510 | then the error message "undefined MTYPE" is shown |
| 12:19.03 | cr2 | pH5: from the blueangel_dpram.c |
| 12:19.15 | pH5 | ah |
| 12:19.17 | cr2 | donny510: what is the htc name for XDA Neo ? |
| 12:19.23 | donny510 | could someone help me? |
| 12:20.44 | cr2 | pH5: i'm close to registering a machine type for the newest Garmin GPS devices :) |
| 12:21.32 | pH5 | btw, is there any progress on the slow-ass omap850 models? |
| 12:21.32 | donny510 | hmmm... :-/ |
| 12:21.33 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt offered to lend a P4350, whatever model that is. |
| 12:21.33 | pH5 | Garmin GPS? |
| 12:21.33 | pH5 | hehe. |
| 12:21.56 | cr2 | donny510: is it a magician http://www.insidepda.de/pocket-pc,O2-XDA-Neo,bewertung,173.html |
| 12:22.04 | tsdogs | cr2: Neo is Prophet |
| 12:22.07 | tsdogs | hi btw |
| 12:22.17 | donny510 | yes, it is |
| 12:22.23 | donny510 | it is exact this one |
| 12:22.57 | donny510 | i followed this instructions |
| 12:22.57 | cr2 | pH5: i need to find the addresses of the flash and RAM. but it looks like an omap CPU. with 4MB RAM it seems. |
| 12:22.57 | donny510 | http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20070111-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 12:23.17 | cr2 | donny: which haret are you using ? |
| 12:23.52 | donny510 | Version 2006091323 |
| 12:23.56 | donny510 | Version 2006091323... |
| 12:23.57 | pH5 | donny510: the magician image most certainly won't work on an omap850, the PXA is armv5te whereas the omap850 is armv4 afaik. |
| 12:24.51 | donny510 | oh...means? |
| 12:24.52 | pH5 | aren't wizard/prophet images somewhat compatible? |
| 12:24.57 | cr2 | donny510: get the Kevin2's version, and look for the OEMname. |
| 12:25.11 | donny510 | where do I get it? |
| 12:25.24 | cr2 | pH5: i may know what is the problem with omap850 SD. |
| 12:25.43 | cr2 | donny510: http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret |
| 12:26.00 | donny510 | which one should I take? |
| 12:26.02 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.35 | donny510 | and then try again? |
| 12:27.02 | cr2 | donny510: yes. you can also create a log file and post it here with this program. |
| 12:27.10 | cr2 | if it will fail. |
| 12:27.21 | donny510 | yes, it fails again |
| 12:27.32 | donny510 | hmm... where is the log file placed? do you know? |
| 12:27.42 | cr2 | pH5: the garmin device looks very similar to omap850. |
| 12:28.10 | cr2 | donny510: create the file named 'earlyharetlog.txt' in the same directory as haret. |
| 12:28.17 | donny510 | ah, k :) |
| 12:28.21 | cr2 | and start haret again. |
| 12:28.30 | cr2 | it will create the 'haretlog.txt' |
| 12:28.35 | cr2 | pastebin it. |
| 12:28.45 | pH5 | cr2: does omap have some kind of cpuid to make sure? |
| 12:29.32 | cr2 | pH5: this is from the fw update loader: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=60Cx_registers |
| 12:29.47 | donny510 | http://nopaste.info/e24d66c24e.html |
| 12:29.54 | donny510 | hmmm |
| 12:30.31 | cr2 | pH5: some subsystems are not known to me, but it looks like something of omap730/omap1* type. |
| 12:31.04 | cr2 | donny510: Trying to detect machine (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='PM300') |
| 12:31.17 | cr2 | pH5: isn't PM300 a magician ? |
| 12:31.59 | pH5 | magician is PM10 afaik |
| 12:32.08 | donny510 | oh... means, it will not work? |
| 12:32.15 | pH5 | or 10something |
| 12:32.38 | cr2 | donny510: i think it should work. wait. |
| 12:33.02 | cr2 | if it's a magician, we will just recompile haret. |
| 12:33.11 | cr2 | pH5: what is the magician's MTYPE ? |
| 12:33.21 | tsdogs | cr2: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet |
| 12:33.35 | donny510 | I dont know if it will help, but on my battery is: "Model: PM16A" |
| 12:34.07 | pH5 | MACH_TYPE_MAGICIAN is 875 |
| 12:34.17 | cr2 | tsdogs: you are right. |
| 12:34.19 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_PhoneModels |
| 12:34.24 | cr2 | it's a prophet. |
| 12:34.45 | cr2 | donny510: http://linwizard.sf.net |
| 12:34.53 | cr2 | it's unfinished though. |
| 12:34.57 | donny510 | oh |
| 12:34.59 | donny510 | hm |
| 12:35.06 | donny510 | means, i have to wait? |
| 12:35.29 | cr2 | you have to help ;) |
| 12:35.43 | cr2 | this project is not very active. |
| 12:36.04 | donny510 | oh |
| 12:36.04 | donny510 | hm |
| 12:36.15 | cr2 | but after looking at the garmin internals, i'd say with some effort it can be revived. |
| 12:36.31 | pH5 | that would be seriously cool. |
| 12:36.37 | cr2 | donny510: weel, that's not something for the newbees. |
| 12:36.54 | donny510 | well, I downloaded the new haret version 0.3.6gnu from the page linwizard |
| 12:37.00 | pH5 | didn't _law_ work on omap for the tornado? |
| 12:37.04 | donny510 | there is the message "UNkown keyword 'boot2'" |
| 12:37.37 | pH5 | boot2 is specific to xanadux gnuharet, it's bootlinux in the upstream versions. |
| 12:37.46 | cr2 | pH5: the SD on omap CPUs has the .bus_shift problem. maybe omap850 has a different shift from 730. |
| 12:37.50 | donny510 | hmm... |
| 12:38.22 | cr2 | donny510: you can use Kevin2's haret to boot on omap850. |
| 12:38.45 | cr2 | get the kernel for Wizard |
| 12:38.57 | donny510 | http://linwizard.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page the smartphone on the picture is not mine, is it correct? |
| 12:39.03 | donny510 | because its the linwizard wiki |
| 12:39.13 | cr2 | check its number. i think it uses the number of Tornado/Typhoon or something. |
| 12:39.33 | cr2 | wizard is a different phone, but it has the same CPU. |
| 12:39.40 | donny510 | ah, k |
| 12:39.56 | cr2 | it's a very integrated cheap device, so the differences are minimal. |
| 12:40.08 | cr2 | and add |
| 12:40.15 | cr2 | set MTYPE xxx |
| 12:40.20 | cr2 | to the default.txt |
| 12:40.31 | cr2 | where xxx is the number used by wizard. |
| 12:41.17 | donny510 | so, i have to input 300 for MTYPE? |
| 12:41.47 | cr2 | pH5: if the SD problem is solved (iand i think it will be), then you only need to find the location of a custom SPI port on omap850. to make the TS working. and since it's tsc2046, you already know what to do :) |
| 12:42.10 | cr2 | donny510: hmm. the number does not look right. |
| 12:42.25 | donny510 | ah |
| 12:42.37 | donny510 | @cr2: you posted a link thi koconnor/haret |
| 12:42.40 | donny510 | i downloaded this version |
| 12:42.44 | donny510 | is it the kevins haret? |
| 12:43.42 | donny510 | well, I added to the default.txt the line |
| 12:43.44 | donny510 | MTYPE 300 |
| 12:43.50 | donny510 | and I started harte.exe again |
| 12:44.02 | donny510 | first the error comes again undefined MTYPE |
| 12:44.02 | cr2 | is the tornado number 300 ? |
| 12:44.24 | donny510 | and then it shows another error "unkown MTYPE" |
| 12:44.37 | pH5 | shouldn't that be "set MTYPE 300"? |
| 12:44.48 | donny510 | unkown Keyword MTYPE |
| 12:44.53 | donny510 | perhaps I placed it wrong? |
| 12:45.15 | donny510 | @PH5: at the end or at the beginning of the file? |
| 12:45.31 | cr2 | omap_tornado MACH_OMAP_TORNADO OMAP_TORNADO 902 |
| 12:45.51 | donny510 | hey, it makes further |
| 12:46.03 | cr2 | donny510: edit default.txt |
| 12:46.06 | donny510 | yes |
| 12:46.07 | cr2 | set MTYPE 902 |
| 12:46.27 | donny510 | at the end of the file? |
| 12:46.31 | donny510 | or at the beginning? |
| 12:46.41 | cr2 | do you have |
| 12:46.44 | cr2 | set KERNEL ? |
| 12:46.55 | cr2 | there. |
| 12:46.59 | donny510 | http://nopaste.info/6eb0193691.html |
| 12:47.27 | cr2 | put it before. |
| 12:47.40 | cr2 | it's not going to do any good after boot2 ;) |
| 12:48.23 | donny510 | ok, the error message is gone |
| 12:48.37 | donny510 | there is a new one... "Allocated memory will overwrite itself" |
| 12:48.44 | donny510 | then I click on "OK" |
| 12:48.58 | donny510 | "VirtualFree failed 001800000 / 270 (code 87) |
| 12:49.19 | cr2 | pH5: this omap code is a real mess now. if you'll have a device, you can clean it a bit. |
| 12:49.35 | cr2 | donny510: you'll need to do |
| 12:49.40 | cr2 | set MEMSIZE |
| 12:49.41 | cr2 | and |
| 12:49.55 | cr2 | hmm. i'll check the names. |
| 12:50.42 | cr2 | tsdogs: i can send you the map and the NMEA file. |
| 12:50.42 | donny510 | the space where the haret.exe is, it has only 7,78 MB |
| 12:50.58 | tsdogs | cr2: sure. for which version you builded it? |
| 12:51.11 | cr2 | tsdogs: the one you have sent me. |
| 12:51.26 | tsdogs | could you build one with the MAIN Tag too |
| 12:51.32 | tsdogs | and of course see if it works |
| 12:51.43 | tsdogs | so we can fork from there. |
| 12:51.44 | cr2 | tsdogs: you need to make some changes to 'schema' so it will look prettier. |
| 12:51.57 | tsdogs | ok |
| 12:52.32 | cr2 | tsdogs: i can also send you the config files for copilot for my A780, and some other 'schema'-like file from another program. |
| 12:52.55 | cr2 | tsdogs: wait, i'll finish with the omap right now. |
| 12:53.00 | tsdogs | ok |
| 12:55.12 | cr2 | donny510: |
| 12:55.16 | cr2 | set ramsize 64*1024*1024 |
| 12:55.34 | cr2 | i think omap code should detect the RAM base itself. |
| 12:56.06 | donny510 | shall I calculate 64*1024*1024? |
| 12:56.14 | donny510 | or shoul I write it exactly in the default.txt? |
| 12:56.42 | cr2 | hmm. no. |
| 12:56.53 | cr2 | write it exactly. haret will calculate itself. |
| 12:56.58 | donny510 | kk |
| 12:57.10 | donny510 | well, nothing happens :( |
| 12:57.15 | donny510 | exactly the same error |
| 12:57.33 | cr2 | you also need |
| 12:57.45 | cr2 | set RAMADRR 0x10000000 |
| 12:58.06 | cr2 | i thought Kevin already put it there :( |
| 12:58.27 | donny510 | hmm... the error message is changed a little bit |
| 12:58.40 | donny510 | at first he wrote this with the virtualFree failed to 000800000 |
| 12:58.47 | donny510 | now he writes 003A0000 |
| 12:59.03 | cr2 | ok, post the haretlog.txt |
| 12:59.05 | donny510 | when i start it again he says, it failed with 004B0000 |
| 12:59.07 | donny510 | k, mom |
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| 12:59.17 | datenmaulwurf | hey |
| 13:00.02 | donny510 | he made no log :( |
| 13:00.24 | donny510 | but the txt file exists |
| 13:00.41 | cr2 | donny510: do a soft reset and try again. |
| 13:00.59 | donny510 | ok... thank you very much for your help |
| 13:01.12 | donny510 | ah, I downloaded omap-haret |
| 13:01.19 | donny510 | and he only says |
| 13:01.24 | donny510 | dont't know boot2 |
| 13:01.29 | cr2 | bootlinux |
| 13:01.47 | donny510 | is it wrong with boot2? |
| 13:02.12 | cr2 | yes. but it's a long story. |
| 13:02.23 | donny510 | kk |
| 13:02.24 | donny510 | hmm |
| 13:03.01 | donny510 | i replaced it, started it again and he only shut down the tool... okay, i try it again with the normal haret.exe and try a soft-reset |
| 13:07.23 | donny510 | http://nopaste.info/1686aa73a1.html |
| 13:08.57 | donny510 | hmmm... "Failed to load file \Storage Card\initrd" |
| 13:09.04 | cr2 | donny510: sorry. |
| 13:09.05 | donny510 | at the end of the log |
| 13:09.06 | cr2 | set RAMADRR 0x10000000 |
| 13:09.11 | cr2 | should be |
| 13:09.11 | donny510 | ah, k :) |
| 13:09.15 | donny510 | no problem |
| 13:09.19 | cr2 | set RAMADDR 0x10000000 |
| 13:09.51 | cr2 | because this is obviously wrong: |
| 13:09.54 | cr2 | boot params: RAMADDR=a0000000 RAMSIZE=04000000 MTYPE=902 |
| 13:10.03 | cr2 | it's the address for the PXA cpu. |
| 13:10.24 | donny510 | ah, i see |
| 13:10.45 | donny510 | well, with two R's correctß |
| 13:10.47 | donny510 | ADRR |
| 13:11.31 | cr2 | when Kevin2 appears we need to ask him to add your machine to the list. |
| 13:11.45 | donny510 | yeah.. :) |
| 13:12.03 | donny510 | is there a page with a good introduction? |
| 13:12.10 | donny510 | the one I red, is not the best one |
| 13:12.15 | cr2 | tsdogs: the map is too big. mail rejected. |
| 13:12.27 | cr2 | tsdogs: i'll try one by one. |
| 13:12.28 | tsdogs | use gmail |
| 13:12.41 | donny510 | so, I wrote "RAMADRR", but the same error... hmmm :-P |
| 13:12.42 | donny510 | k |
| 13:13.22 | tsdogs | cr2: want a ftp access? |
| 13:16.13 | donny510 | do i need an initrd file? |
| 13:16.15 | donny510 | on my stick? |
| 13:16.21 | donny510 | on my SD Card? |
| 13:16.44 | donny510 | i saw in the log files, that it is missing |
| 13:16.53 | donny510 | i didn't copy one on the sd card!? |
| 13:17.56 | cr2 | tsdogs: this .rdm format is not very space efficient. bzip2 compressed it 3 times. |
| 13:18.06 | tsdogs | :) |
| 13:18.15 | tsdogs | but bz2 is lot cpu consuming. |
| 13:18.18 | cr2 | donny510: follow the wizard wiki instructions. |
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| 13:19.03 | donny510 | ok, I opened soo much links, could you send it me again? then i am be quiet :) |
| 13:19.32 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.37 | cr2 | tsdogs: sent. |
| 13:19.40 | tsdogs | ok |
| 13:19.42 | tsdogs | got it |
| 13:19.43 | donny510 | kk :) |
| 13:20.51 | cr2 | tsdogs: the rivers use the SHORELINE tag in 'schema' |
| 13:21.17 | cr2 | if it points to a weird color, then it's black. use #xxxxxx instead. |
| 13:22.37 | tsdogs | ok. thx. baby is awake now. bbl |
| 13:22.40 | cr2 | tsdogs: this layer mess is also very annoying. maybe we should just extend the layers count, anduse the garmin numbers. and break the binary compatibility completely ;) |
| 13:22.50 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:23.32 | cr2 | pH5: still here ? |
| 13:24.35 | pH5 | kinda |
| 13:25.03 | cr2 | i've a map of ~85000 streets and can plan the routes of ~500km. |
| 13:25.14 | cr2 | on an opteron :) |
| 13:25.18 | cr2 | at qt4. |
| 13:25.32 | cr2 | don't know how it will look at pxa. |
| 13:27.06 | pH5 | a bit slower, I'd guess. what data and pathfinding algorithm are you using? |
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| 13:28.34 | cr2 | pathfinding is dglib i think. the map is custom and was designed for a garmin receiver. |
| 13:28.58 | cr2 | it will work on wince btw. |
| 13:29.17 | cr2 | there was a talk of using the data from falk. |
| 13:29.26 | cr2 | from navit. |
| 13:29.49 | cr2 | but it#s necessary to convert them first. |
| 13:30.22 | donny510 | hmm... is it correct, that i have to connect with telnet to the HaRET Version? |
| 13:30.29 | donny510 | i connected them and I am in telnet |
| 13:30.51 | pH5 | :) now I wish I'd understand how to make the GPS work on the neo1973. |
| 13:30.51 | donny510 | well, the problem is, I don't know where to start and which files I need |
| 13:30.51 | cr2 | my map was taken from here http://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com |
| 13:31.27 | cr2 | donny510: then you don't want to do it. honestly. this project is a bit messed up ;) |
| 13:31.47 | donny510 | yes, i know, the technical logic, i have, the only problem is, what to do and where |
| 13:31.59 | donny510 | i made everything in the first introduction |
| 13:32.05 | donny510 | I prepared the sd card |
| 13:32.11 | donny510 | I copied the required files on it |
| 13:32.50 | cr2 | donny510: i don't have the device, and have never tested it. i know that there are many bug here and there. like with the RAMADDR for example. |
| 13:33.02 | donny510 | yeah... k |
| 13:33.18 | donny510 | the only thing is, the first introduction seems very good |
| 13:33.22 | donny510 | and everything was done |
| 13:33.37 | donny510 | but the new one, the linwizard wiki says, I have to connect with telnet with the haRet version |
| 13:33.40 | donny510 | well, it works |
| 13:33.45 | donny510 | but I don't know, what to do at first |
| 13:33.49 | donny510 | to click on the RUN button |
| 13:33.54 | donny510 | or connect with telnet |
| 13:34.24 | donny510 | what to do at first, what to do next |
| 13:34.38 | cr2 | we have similar problems even with the blueangel. where almost everything is supported and works. |
| 13:34.57 | donny510 | okay, only the last question... do you know, which files I require? |
| 13:35.04 | donny510 | the first introduction says nothing about the initrd |
| 13:35.09 | donny510 | but in the log file, it is missing |
| 13:35.22 | donny510 | well, he says, he cannot find it under \Storage\initrd |
| 13:35.36 | cr2 | if you will boot from SD, then the initrd is not needed (in theory) |
| 13:35.46 | donny510 | k |
| 13:35.55 | cr2 | but afair, you can't boot from SD because of some driver bugs and timeout. |
| 13:36.03 | donny510 | http://linwizard.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Read_me |
| 13:36.09 | donny510 | this one here, under Boot Wizard |
| 13:36.21 | donny510 | there is the option that I have to input the command copy in telnet |
| 13:36.26 | cr2 | so you need an initrd. then you can just boot linux, but not much fun with it. |
| 13:36.28 | donny510 | and have to copy a file |
| 13:36.41 | donny510 | but the file, I don't know where it is... this kind of problems i have |
| 13:36.44 | cr2 | ok, i've not written these pages :) so as just clueless as you. |
| 13:36.48 | donny510 | i miss a list of required files |
| 13:36.53 | donny510 | ok :) |
| 13:36.56 | donny510 | but thanks for your help |
| 13:37.00 | cr2 | :) |
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| 13:39.20 | cr2 | pH5: what's with the gps on neo ? is there a closed source gpsd ? |
| 13:40.21 | pH5 | cr2: there is one 'leaked' closed source binary to get NMEA out of the chip and we are told there will be a closed source gpsd plugin. |
| 13:44.19 | cr2 | ok. and it does not work for you ? |
| 13:45.13 | cr2 | hehe. it seems i need to move to the latest GPL-licensed gpsd. |
| 13:45.25 | pH5 | hm. as long as it doesn't crash or silently loose the sat lock, it does. |
| 13:45.46 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:45.56 | pH5 | Of course I hope that the binary blob that will be shipped with the final phones will be somewhat stable, but who knows.. |
| 13:46.13 | cr2 | lol. if it was not so sad. |
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| 13:54.01 | donny510 | @cr2: I have a file, called haret_omap.exe |
| 13:54.06 | donny510 | it shows no error |
| 13:54.12 | donny510 | it has tux in the left corner |
| 13:54.31 | donny510 | and prints some green texsts on the screen |
| 13:54.35 | donny510 | and the he says, waiting |
| 13:54.42 | donny510 | and then the screen turns off |
| 13:55.07 | donny510 | This is another kind of thing, perhaps you know better this one!? |
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| 14:08.56 | donny510 | do I really need WindowsCE 2003? |
| 14:09.04 | donny510 | I have WIN05 |
| 14:10.47 | administrator__ | hello to all. |
| 14:10.50 | administrator__ | As first big compliments to the people how work hard to port Linux to the HTC-devices. |
| 14:10.51 | administrator__ | Having Linux running on this devices is a big step forward giving the people the freedom of choice using the OS he like at most. |
| 14:10.52 | administrator__ | At the moment i itself have to buy such a htc phone and i would now like to ask what is the better choice. |
| 14:10.54 | administrator__ | Should i buy a old HTC-Universal with nearly a working Linux or should i buy the nw HTC-Advatage with nearly not working Linux at the mopment ? |
| 14:10.56 | administrator__ | What do you suggest ? |
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| 14:28.56 | cr2 | administrator__: it depends on what do you want ;) |
| 14:29.31 | cr2 | donny510: that's actually all what you can get out of this device now. |
| 14:31.10 | administrator__ | Hello cr2. thank you very much for your answer. I itself would likt to buy the HTC-Advantage but i dont know how good the progress will be porting Linux on HTC-Advantage. I fear that the Technical Barrier for Porting Linux on HTC advantage is very high |
| 14:31.53 | administrator__ | and for that running Linux on HTC-Advantage would be nearly impossible |
| 14:32.59 | cr2 | i have both. on the universal there is a very good chance that all the hardware will be supported. |
| 14:33.43 | cr2 | on the athena there are many things where one needs to invest time to research them. |
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| 14:34.07 | cr2 | but you can't compare their capabilities though. |
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| 14:36.03 | donny510 | cr2... it works |
| 14:36.03 | donny510 | :) |
| 14:36.18 | donny510 | he loads everything without an error |
| 14:36.40 | donny510 | and he made a progress bar :) |
| 14:37.09 | donny510 | the only thing is, the screen is white^^ :-P hehe |
| 14:37.32 | cr2 | administrator__: i can tell you which subsystems have good chances to be working soon, and which are not. i'm actually optimistic about the features i would like to work. |
| 14:37.48 | cr2 | donny510: does it read from the SD ? |
| 14:38.04 | donny510 | no, he errors, when it was on the sd, because he said |
| 14:38.20 | donny510 | "It was not found on \Storage\Program Files\Linux.ha" |
| 14:38.29 | donny510 | then I created a directory called Storage |
| 14:38.38 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:38.42 | donny510 | because the directory from the SD calls "Storage Card" |
| 14:38.45 | donny510 | and not only Storage |
| 14:38.54 | donny510 | then he made tux on the left side |
| 14:39.11 | donny510 | and wrotes some things on the screen, then a small progressbar was on the top |
| 14:39.16 | donny510 | and then the screen went white |
| 14:39.43 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:39.51 | donny510 | hm.... |
| 14:40.08 | donny510 | i don't know if he works |
| 14:41.35 | donny510 | there are 2 versions avaible, right? |
| 14:41.49 | donny510 | the first version looks like a real Windows CE tool with a Button called "RUN" |
| 14:42.01 | donny510 | and the second programm creates a black screen, with tux, and the green font |
| 14:42.46 | donny510 | the first one called haret and the second haret_.exe |
| 14:43.09 | cr2 | "black screen, with tux, and the green font" - this is linux running |
| 14:43.17 | cr2 | what does the green font say ? |
| 14:44.39 | donny510 | the white screen comes when the app shows "Praying...." |
| 14:46.15 | donny510 | then the "Progressbar" is shown... on the top of the screen |
| 14:48.55 | administrator__ | cr2: it would be great to know what subsystems Linux could support in the near Future on HTC-Advantage |
| 14:49.58 | administrator__ | I visit nearly every week the htc-developer forum and read the Forum Post "Linux on HTC-Athena" |
| 14:50.07 | cr2 | administrator__: usb and gps. touchscreen and battery monitor - with very little effort. |
| 14:51.02 | cr2 | the LCD suspend/resume with some effort. |
| 14:51.16 | cr2 | backlight - very easy. |
| 14:52.01 | cr2 | phone AT command interface - with some effort. |
| 14:52.14 | cr2 | SMS will work if AT works. |
| 14:52.28 | cr2 | UMTS/HSDPA - don't know. |
| 14:52.36 | cr2 | may be easy. |
| 14:53.03 | cr2 | sound (digital) - difficult. |
| 14:53.34 | cr2 | sound for the phone from the headphone mic - i think it will be easy, just like on the universal. |
| 14:54.03 | cr2 | i guess the headphone is done in the same way as on the universal. |
| 14:54.52 | cr2 | miniSD - difficult. hermes uses the same interface, we have documented the registers, but writing a new mmc/sd driver requires some experience. |
| 14:55.57 | cr2 | the microdrive. i think this is the area where the most effort should be applied. if it will be done, that will be a big success for linux. |
| 14:56.16 | cr2 | small videophone cam - the same as on the universal. |
| 14:56.35 | cr2 | i.e. linux driver exists and works on motorola a780. |
| 14:57.20 | cr2 | big CAM- very difficult. will probably never be done. |
| 14:57.43 | cr2 | did i forget something ? |
| 14:58.14 | cr2 | the video out. i#ve found the datasheet, it should be relatively easy to support it. if necessary. |
| 14:58.39 | administrator__ | No you have answered every question that was open from my side. I think also the biggest problem would be reading and writing data to the Microdrive. If this is done then using Linux for Administration Task like Office or Internet should be no problem |
| 14:58.49 | cr2 | USB host. afaik there is a linux driver for isp1583. |
| 14:59.28 | cr2 | yes, that's why i don't think working hard on the miniSD makes sense. |
| 14:59.47 | donny510 | @cr2: I think, I make everything all right, but the versions all making my smartphone unstable |
| 14:59.51 | cr2 | only if somebody will make some progress with hermes |
| 14:59.58 | donny510 | each version restarts, make wite or crashes the device |
| 15:00.13 | cr2 | dnny510: i#ve told you that at the very beginning. |
| 15:00.22 | donny510 | :( |
| 15:01.08 | cr2 | administrator__: we may move forward with the G4 DOC, but i don't think it has any priority, like on the universal. |
| 15:01.28 | cr2 | the most important is to get the microdrive working. |
| 15:01.42 | cr2 | it's an IDE controller made by EPSON. |
| 15:02.27 | cr2 | maybe we will make it work in PIO mode based on some other simple IDE driver first, i.e. no DMA or UDMA to simplify things. |
| 15:02.54 | donny510 | ok, bye :) thanks for help |
| 15:03.48 | administrator__ | cr2: I support fully your view about the Microdrive. Having a driver for reading and writing Data to the Microdrive would open Linux many doors like dual booting listening MP3 and making Office tasks |
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| 15:07.00 | cr2 | yes. othewise linux is unusable on the device. |
| 15:07.47 | administrator__ | I itself have nearly make my decission. I Buy in the next 7 Days a HTC-Advantage. You will see me in the next time here in the channel more times :-) One last question at last. In switzerland this Phone is very Expensive. 1600.- Swiss Francs that makes nearly 800 English Pounds. Does anybody know a good place for buying this Phone ? |
| 15:08.02 | cr2 | we can (in theory) run off the 32MB or 48MB ramdisk, it will be very fast, but without writing to some mass storage it#s not very useful. |
| 15:08.57 | cr2 | the reasonable price in Germany is 839€ |
| 15:09.44 | cr2 | you may find it cheaper, but i don't think it's worth to pay less to some dubious small company. |
| 15:10.24 | cr2 | at least because of the warranty. |
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| 15:11.50 | cr2 | but don't forget. it's not really a phone. |
| 15:12.02 | cr2 | even universal is not really a phone. |
| 15:12.03 | zwox | hi eo |
| 15:12.21 | cr2 | hi zwox |
| 15:13.41 | zwox | is it possible to use minicom to connect mi htc to my laptop ? |
| 15:13.49 | zwox | using usb port |
| 15:13.59 | administrator__ | Yeah you are right. I would buy it from Amazon then it cost only 1399.- SwissFrancs that makes 700 Englisch Pounds. http://www.expansys.ch/p.aspx?i=146310 What i would like to test is maybe running Puppy Linux on HTC-Advantage. Puppy Linux run totaly in 64 MB Ram and is extremly fast ! You have to try it http://www.puppyos.com/ |
| 15:14.42 | administrator__ | i use it allready as a distro nearly since 2 years |
| 15:16.42 | zwox | i'd like to run linux on the htc-9600 |
| 15:16.53 | zwox | but i don't know what to do |
| 15:17.48 | cr2 | administrator__: ok, i'll have a look. |
| 15:17.57 | cr2 | zwox: what is 9600 ? |
| 15:18.03 | zwox | htc hermes |
| 15:19.04 | zwox | i've found out the zimage and the kernel loader |
| 15:19.22 | cr2 | zwox: it's too early for it to be usable. |
| 15:19.44 | zwox | and can i help developper's work ? |
| 15:19.44 | cr2 | yes, you can boot off the ramdisk and telnet to it. but its all so far. |
| 15:19.56 | cr2 | on the kernel side ? |
| 15:20.06 | zwox | if i can |
| 15:20.46 | cr2 | don't know. read the logs, it's difficult to give a summary. |
| 15:21.00 | zwox | okay |
| 15:21.15 | zwox | thx |
| 15:21.20 | administrator__ | cr2: the best thing is booting puppy linux directly from the windows partition using the windows version of lilo or grub. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=699705005&t=1058 This makes partitioning of the harddrive no more needed. I assume this should be also possible booting Linux on HTC-Advantage |
| 15:21.32 | zwox | i wish it will work as soon as possible |
| 15:21.48 | zwox | my hermes will be so sexy with a tux inside |
| 15:21.57 | cr2 | zwox: :) |
| 15:22.34 | cr2 | administrator__: i have run a 16MB ramdisk with the X server. on blueangel :) |
| 15:23.10 | cr2 | don't know about 32MB or bigger ramdisk, may be an interesting test actually. |
| 15:23.44 | cr2 | need to ask Kevin2 about it. |
| 15:26.12 | administrator__ | I cant await the moment till the HTC-Advantage is delivered to try running linux on it. Thanks a lot once again for your hard work on this project. We will see us in this channel more time. Till the next time and happy coding. Bye |
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| 15:32.55 | administrator__ | cr2: sorry once again. if you have time i suggest to try the PuppyLinux version MicroMuppy. Its a full working Linux distro with Xserver Desktop Panelbar Texteditor Bash shell and so on. It run totaly in RAM and has only a size of 12 MB. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=14918 Thanks for all. Bye |
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| 15:37.51 | cr2 | it's not really 12MB. ramdisk_size=29000 |
| 15:38.23 | cr2 | 12MB is probably the compressed RD size. |
| 15:40.10 | tsdogs | cr2: hi, is there the routing info in the map? I get can't load route data... :( |
| 15:40.57 | cr2 | the you got the .dgl file ? |
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| 15:41.05 | tsdogs | yes |
| 15:41.14 | cr2 | works for me. |
| 15:41.34 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 15:41.53 | cr2 | hhm. in the original dglib source there is a .dgl dumper tool. |
| 15:42.11 | cr2 | forgot its name, but will have a look. |
| 15:44.32 | Babel | hi |
| 15:44.52 | Babel | tsdogs: where can i choose kernel version with bitbake ? |
| 15:45.10 | tsdogs | that's a though question |
| 15:45.15 | tsdogs | in your local conf |
| 15:45.17 | cr2 | tsdogs: i've finally found the nmea log. will send it now. |
| 15:45.20 | tsdogs | preferred virtual |
| 15:45.26 | tsdogs | cr2: ok |
| 15:45.51 | BabelO | tsdogs: ok, i ve no entry for that ;) |
| 15:46.32 | tsdogs | BabelO: http://www.pastebin.ca/533737 |
| 15:46.37 | tsdogs | this is my local.conf |
| 15:46.54 | BabelO | ok thanks, i don't understand all with bitbake |
| 15:47.20 | tsdogs | :( me neither |
| 15:50.18 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 15:51.05 | pH5 | hi Kevin2 |
| 15:51.25 | Kevin2 | pH5 - Sorry, I wasn't able to get around to doing the cpld driver. :-( |
| 15:52.47 | BabelO | tsdogs: thanks, building again ;) |
| 15:52.55 | tsdogs | :) |
| 15:54.01 | BabelO | tsdogs: i understand now, why bitbake is so big |
| 15:54.11 | tsdogs | :) |
| 15:54.35 | tsdogs | actually it's OE which is big :) |
| 15:55.33 | pH5 | Kevin2: don't be. I didn't find time to do any kernel work either. |
| 15:56.31 | cr2 | Kevin2: hi. what are the limits on the ramdisk for booting with haret ? |
| 15:58.44 | cr2 | tsdogs: sent |
| 15:59.07 | cr2 | tsdogs: let me know if it the gpsfake works for you. |
| 16:05.12 | Kevin2 | cr2: psokolovsky make them very large and also did some tests with large initrds. I'll check now. |
| 16:07.01 | Kevin2 | cr2: Right now, there is a limit of 20Megs for the sum of kernel+initrd. One could probably raise that in haret - not sure what the kernel limit is though. |
| 16:10.36 | cr2 | Kevin2: the kernel is not a limit, but i'd like to boot with a 32MB (decompressed) initrd. as in the example provided above - 12MB (compressed) |
| 16:10.56 | BabelO | . |
| 16:11.31 | Kevin2 | cr2: Should work. I think psokolovsky even tested a 16MB initrd. |
| 16:12.01 | psokolovsky | I even tested ~40mb initrd |
| 16:12.42 | Kevin2 | Hi psokolovsky. |
| 16:12.46 | psokolovsky | hi |
| 16:13.36 | Kevin2 | 40MB uncompressed? I see a 20MB limit on initrd+kernel (#define MAX_INDEX 5) -- maybe I'm misreading it. |
| 16:14.13 | psokolovsky | yes, ~40mb uncompressed opie image |
| 16:14.53 | psokolovsky | on qemu/h4000, also tested gpe image of ~ same size, and it also booted |
| 16:14.54 | cr2 | ok, that sounds good. on a 128MB machine it's not a big problem to use 48MB as a ramdisk. |
| 16:15.19 | cr2 | psokolovsky: can you boot wince on qemu/h4000 ? :) |
| 16:15.30 | psokolovsky | sure nope ;-) |
| 16:16.06 | cr2 | can be a good bootloader debugger. |
| 16:17.14 | psokolovsky | cr2: did you ever tried stuff in mach-sa11xx/usb/? does it work? |
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| 16:20.48 | cr2 | psokolovsky: no. i've tried only the sa1101-ohci some years ago, and it was a bit buggy. |
| 16:21.51 | cr2 | Kevin2: i've got another report that haret can't execute any commands on a wince2.11 sa1100 target. |
| 16:22.11 | Kevin2 | cr2: Using latest haret? If so, what does the log show? |
| 16:22.41 | cr2 | you type 'help' and it hangs. only the program, not the machine, so you can kill haret. |
| 16:22.44 | Kevin2 | cr2: BTW, is there interest in getting the jornada running? I think I can get wirq to run on them if there is a demand. |
| 16:23.08 | Kevin2 | cr2: Latest haret has more debugging in it, so if you can get the full log it would help. |
| 16:23.17 | cr2 | Kevin2: if haret will be fixed, i'll port the existing jornada820 code to the hh.org CVS. |
| 16:23.26 | cr2 | ok, i'll try. |
| 16:24.22 | cr2 | but i will also need some custom machine-specific code to shutdown the external busmaster dma and ohci. the same problem like it was on pxa. |
| 16:24.56 | Kevin2 | cr2: On the haret mailing list, someone tested haret on h3100 and h3600a. They didn't report any problems. |
| 16:25.48 | cr2 | i'll look at the logs. afaik they use sa1110 (should be no difference), but also wince3.00. |
| 16:25.58 | cr2 | not 2.11 |
| 16:26.22 | cr2 | 3.00 runs in the system mode all the time. 2.11 is in usermode. |
| 16:26.45 | cr2 | but there are other differences as well, like better native libc support |
| 16:28.12 | Kevin2 | cr2: I think you're right about 3.0 -- I was just looking at devices using StrongArm. |
| 16:40.00 | cr2 | bbl |
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| 17:13.35 | cr2 | Kevin2: have you run testwm5 on apache ? |
| 17:21.14 | cr2 | BabelO: i've just realized that nano-X _is_ microwindows :) |
| 17:21.41 | BabelO | cr2: yes, it is new name |
| 17:25.07 | cr2 | how difficult is it to port the win32 code to nano-X ? |
| 17:25.31 | cr2 | then running small roadmap will be very easy. |
| 17:26.41 | BabelO | don t know only try small exe |
| 17:42.03 | cr2 | BabelO: packages/qt/qt4-x11-free_4.3.0.bb |
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| 17:48.53 | cr2 | OMG. is it qnx? |
| 17:50.04 | BabelO | cr2: there is libqt3support package ;) |
| 17:52.14 | cr2 | yes, but it's not qtopia. |
| 17:52.43 | cr2 | i'm wondering how much resources do you need with x11+qt. |
| 17:52.46 | cr2 | qt4. |
| 17:53.07 | BabelO | it is same qtopia contain qt4 source code tree i think |
| 17:53.23 | cr2 | it may be a better choice on an ATI chip with accelerated video. |
| 17:53.47 | cr2 | qtopia phone ? and the weird drivers ? |
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| 18:06.51 | cr2 | BabelO: in the yellow box: Texas Instruments' OMAP processor specially designed for Garmin |
| 18:07.00 | cr2 | http://www.satnav-shop.com/index.php?ln=en&pg=6&sec=15 |
| 18:07.01 | BabelO | maybe not, qt directory is empty |
| 18:07.30 | cr2 | but it#s a different device. |
| 18:10.48 | cr2 | i doubt they will use 10 different custom cpus. |
| 18:11.26 | BabelO | probably not, same firmware for all device with some custom .fw file ;) |
| 18:12.00 | cr2 | firmware may be different, but the cpu will be the same. like pxa :) |
| 18:12.20 | cr2 | it's too expensive for them to use different cpus. imho. |
| 18:13.34 | cr2 | 220 x 176 Pixel |
| 18:13.37 | cr2 | the same. |
| 18:13.46 | BabelO | smaller than BA ;) |
| 18:14.22 | cr2 | but CF, not microSD. |
| 18:14.36 | cr2 | there is no CF controller on chip. |
| 18:15.02 | BabelO | Firmware upgrade for hermes are out ;) |
| 18:15.20 | BabelO | no wrong it is for P3600 |
| 18:17.07 | cr2 | 199€ with maps on dvd. |
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| 18:19.44 | cr2 | Accepts data cards: blank 128 MB microSD card (included) |
| 18:20.44 | cr2 | discontinued product |
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| 19:19.31 | cr2 | tsdogs: any progress ? :) |
| 19:19.43 | tsdogs | cr2: yes it's working. |
| 19:19.48 | tsdogs | :) |
| 19:20.23 | cr2 | good. |
| 19:20.26 | cr2 | also the nmea ? |
| 19:20.31 | tsdogs | gps console is black an white |
| 19:20.33 | tsdogs | yes |
| 19:20.41 | cr2 | i've told you. |
| 19:21.11 | tsdogs | ok , but adding some colors is much esayer than writing a new window :) |
| 19:21.22 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:21.27 | cr2 | http://qpegps.sourceforge.net/images/qpegps_shots/0.9.2.1/shots_640x480_0.9.2.1.html |
| 19:22.06 | tsdogs | ok. it might also be something in the schema that turns everything black |
| 19:22.35 | cr2 | btw, about the schema. |
| 19:22.47 | cr2 | look at this program http://www.gpsmoldova.com/navitel/indexen.html |
| 19:23.26 | cr2 | there is a cab file there navitel-PPC.zip |
| 19:23.55 | tsdogs | :) ok |
| 19:24.13 | cr2 | look at 000DAY~1.009 0NIGHT~1.010 |
| 19:24.19 | cr2 | after cabextract. |
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| 19:24.41 | cr2 | i'll send you the schemas from a780. |
| 19:25.17 | tsdogs | perfect. You done a great work btw :) |
| 19:26.42 | cr2 | you too :) |
| 19:27.26 | cr2 | i'll do it for your area too. a bit laater. |
| 19:27.51 | tsdogs | this is just what I needed. |
| 19:28.05 | tsdogs | are you able to test with main branch? |
| 19:28.17 | cr2 | but it's a bit more complex, because of some obfuscation. |
| 19:28.35 | cr2 | no, not yet. i need to check the sql schema changes. |
| 19:28.45 | tsdogs | ok. Just wanted to see if we miss some important stuff |
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| 19:35.24 | tsdogs | perfect so I have some schema colors to be used :) |
| 19:35.49 | cr2 | sent the a780 styles too. |
| 19:36.24 | tsdogs | :) saw them |
| 19:36.29 | tsdogs | thx |
| 19:42.12 | cr2 | here is the "british" styles.cfg http://www.auckland-services.freeserve.co.uk/styles.cfg |
| 19:43.10 | cr2 | i wish roadmap has suported brushstyles and other goodies from that format. |
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| 19:59.46 | Kevin2 | cr2: No on testwm5. Do you have a pre made binary I can run? |
| 20:03.45 | cr2 | Kevin2: need to check. |
| 20:05.22 | cr2 | Kevin2: http://hands.com/~lkcl |
| 20:07.02 | Kevin2 | cr2: Do I need to run it with any args, in a special place, or something like that? |
| 20:09.45 | cr2 | no, just run, and it will dump everything it can to \Storage\ Card |
| 20:10.03 | Kevin2 | Okay - running now. |
| 20:19.47 | cr2 | not bad. |
| 20:19.50 | cr2 | -- line table statistics: 102543 lines, 33223 crossing |
| 20:20.55 | cr2 | -- dglib table statistics: 171963 edges |
| 20:20.55 | cr2 | -- shape table: 603861 items |
| 20:28.50 | cr2 | BabelO: how do i delete an entry in the table ? where id<100 |
| 20:29.31 | BabelO | cr2: delete from table_name where id < 100; |
| 20:29.38 | cr2 | delete from. |
| 20:31.14 | cr2 | ok, i#ve remembered what was this bug about. |
| 20:31.16 | Kevin2 | Wow, TestWM5 takes a long time. It is still runnign. |
| 20:31.22 | cr2 | ## dbname=jjmaplo, line 3421, column 1: too many polygon lines |
| 20:32.49 | cr2 | delete from water where area(the_geom) < 1.0e-8 |
| 20:32.59 | cr2 | DELETE 82 |
| 20:34.05 | cr2 | delete from water where area(the_geom) < 1.0e-7; |
| 20:34.13 | cr2 | DELETE 1122 |
| 20:35.03 | cr2 | delete from water where area(the_geom) < 1.0e-6; |
| 20:35.10 | cr2 | DELETE 1448 |
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| 20:35.58 | cr2 | ok, now it's happy. |
| 20:40.34 | cr2 | the actual data is a bit broken, but the water polygons can be imported now. with this stupid <65535 line segments per county. |
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| 20:53.14 | BabelO | cr2: from where do you import this data into postgis ? |
| 20:54.17 | cr2 | from a map from mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com |
| 20:54.42 | cr2 | this is the most annoying .rdm format deficiency. |
| 20:54.51 | BabelO | ok, you modify something to do it ? |
| 20:55.03 | cr2 | the second one is missing names on nodes, but it's easy to solve. |
| 20:55.03 | BabelO | and then you export data for roadmap ? |
| 20:55.40 | cr2 | i convert the text data to sql, import into postgis and then convert into .rdm for roadmap. |
| 20:56.03 | BabelO | ok |
| 20:56.39 | cr2 | shp2pgsql may be easier, but it produces MULTIPOLYGON which confuses 'buildmap'. |
| 20:57.13 | cr2 | buildmap can't deal with MULTIPOLYGONs. |
| 20:58.37 | cr2 | and then there is this sql request bug- if the area is too small it is simplified to 0, and then buildmap exits with a cryptic message ;) |
| 20:58.47 | cr2 | "this is not a linestring: " |
| 21:15.43 | BabelO | cr2: i m building images for BA to post it. maybe i can try Xw100 server ? |
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| 21:30.30 | cr2 | try without it first. |
| 21:30.33 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.38 | cr2 | ;) |
| 21:33.10 | cr2 | -- polygon table statistics: 854 polygons, 61806 lines |
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| 21:59.18 | Kevin2 | cr2: TestWM5 finished. Was there something I should look at? |
| 22:09.44 | cr2 | rilhone.dll |
| 22:10.42 | cr2 | Kevin2: do you have rilphone.dll in Modules/ ? |
| 22:11.46 | Kevin2 | cr2: Yes. It looks like code, but I don't have any function names in there. |
| 22:13.12 | Kevin2 | $ ../haret/toolchain-cegcc/bin/arm-wince-mingw32ce-objdump -x Dump/Modules/rilphone.dll |
| 22:13.23 | Kevin2 | Sections: |
| 22:13.23 | Kevin2 | Idx Name Size VMA LMA File off Algn |
| 22:13.23 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.23 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.23 | Kevin2 | SYMBOL TABLE: |
| 22:13.24 | Kevin2 | no symbols |
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| 22:14.19 | donny | Hi Leute :) |
| 22:14.24 | donny | Ich war heute mittag schonmal hier. |
| 22:14.34 | donny | ah, hi, sry, english |
| 22:14.46 | donny | I was here on afternoon |
| 22:15.58 | donny | well, I have now my console on the O2 XDA Neo |
| 22:15.58 | donny | it works :) |
| 22:15.59 | donny | but I have a big problem :-P i have no keyboard, and no virtual one |
| 22:15.59 | donny | how can I connect with SSH to it? well, Windows XP does not found the driver "Ethernet Gadget" |
| 22:15.59 | donny | :( |
| 22:15.59 | donny | does someone knows it? |
| 22:17.09 | pH5 | if g_ether is compiled without rndis support, you can only connect to it from linux. |
| 22:17.33 | donny | well, i have a second computer with linux |
| 22:17.35 | donny | hm... |
| 22:17.38 | donny | SuSE |
| 22:17.45 | donny | i typed in |
| 22:18.01 | donny | ifconfig usb0 10.226.6.1 netmask 255.255.0.0 |
| 22:18.11 | donny | ifconfig usb0 10.226.6.1 netmask 255.255.0.0 up |
| 22:19.05 | donny | the pocket pc writes on the screen when I connect it with the computer |
| 22:19.21 | donny | "usb0: full speed config #1 100mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet" |
| 22:19.30 | donny | don't know what to do now |
| 22:21.37 | pH5 | you need to figure out what ip address the pda is configured to in the startup scripts. |
| 22:21.37 | donny | yeap |
| 22:21.37 | donny | do you know where i can get it, without a keyboard :-p |
| 22:21.40 | pH5 | looking at /etc/network/interfaces in the initrd looks like a good first step. |
| 22:22.12 | pH5 | or maybe somebody knows |
| 22:22.54 | donny | it woorks :) |
| 22:22.56 | donny | cool |
| 22:23.38 | donny | hmm... is there a list, where i can get which command it knows? |
| 22:23.43 | donny | well, two times TAB |
| 22:23.49 | donny | but, "dir" he doesn't know :-/ |
| 22:24.54 | pH5 | that's ls, maybe you should google linux console tutorial :) |
| 22:25.16 | cr2 | Kevin2: can you upload it somewhere, or send it over e-mail ? |
| 22:25.55 | donny | yeah, sry, i know, but i was in an empty directory |
| 22:25.55 | donny | :) |
| 22:25.59 | donny | thanks @ all :) |
| 22:26.11 | donny | ok, and opie, I can install there on? |
| 22:26.28 | donny | Opie, the same like gnome but for pocket pcs, correct? |
| 22:27.15 | cr2 | the same like kde. |
| 22:27.57 | donny | yeah, k |
| 22:28.03 | donny | and I have to compile it there, correct? |
| 22:28.41 | Kevin2 | cr2: I sent you an email. |
| 22:29.02 | donny | kk, thanks to all :) |
| 22:29.13 | Kevin2 | pH5: Didn't you have a script that could make arm objdump's easier to read? |
| 22:29.15 | donny | can I changed the directory "\Storage\Program Files\"? |
| 22:29.21 | donny | to my sd card? |
| 22:29.30 | donny | in the default.txt with the configs, right? |
| 22:29.40 | Kevin2 | cr2: It looks like the "Export Address Table" will give a few function names to the code. |
| 22:31.51 | pH5 | Kevin2: oh well, I always wanted to clean that up :/ |
| 22:31.56 | pH5 | http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/disassemble.py, for what it's worth |
| 22:33.10 | cr2 | Kevin2: ok. |
| 22:34.17 | Kevin2 | pH5: Thanks. (Looks like I had an earlier version of your tool on my hard drive.) :-) |
| 22:39.10 | cr2 | Kevin2: AT+HTC_EXITE911=1 :) |
| 22:39.48 | pH5 | what does this do? randomly call 911? |
| 22:41.33 | cr2 | Kevin2: it's a quite different world. qualcomm WCDMA is much closer to GSM than CDMA. |
| 22:42.06 | Kevin2 | What is "qualcomm WCDMA"? |
| 22:43.42 | cr2 | G3 UMTS phones like universal/hermes/athena. |
| 22:44.21 | cr2 | it looks like a major piece of work to do. maybe we should better give up ;) |
| 22:49.58 | Kevin2 | pH5: I see your script calls "strings". But the encoded output doesn't show any of the strings.. |
| 22:56.10 | cr2 | tsdogs: are you already sleeping ? |
| 22:56.21 | tsdogs | cr2: not yet :) |
| 22:56.41 | pH5 | Kevin2: then I guess the (file) offset to vma address conversion isn't working correctly. |
| 22:56.45 | cr2 | i've resolved the "water" problems as much as it is possible. |
| 22:57.07 | pH5 | I haven't used this tool on anything but files from one magician and a blueangel image. |
| 22:57.08 | tsdogs | that sounds great :) |
| 22:57.26 | cr2 | tsdogs: i've written an e-mail to the mailing list about the "poi" and polygons. |
| 22:57.59 | cr2 | tsdogs: my guess is that the poi are relatively easy to support. like lines with start=end. |
| 22:58.11 | tsdogs | I think so too. |
| 22:58.33 | cr2 | but the polygons with the 0xffff limit per country is rather hard. |
| 22:58.53 | cr2 | and the polygon rendering in roadmap is not quite good. |
| 22:59.14 | cr2 | i can send you my current map, so you'll see it yourself. |
| 22:59.34 | tsdogs | ok |
| 22:59.38 | tsdogs | cr2: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/gpsconsole.png |
| 23:00.35 | cr2 | a ripoff :) |
| 23:00.44 | pH5 | or maybe the header parsing went wrong |
| 23:00.47 | cr2 | looks great! :D |
| 23:00.57 | pH5 | I needed to change the objdump -h call like this for blueangel: http://en.pastebin.ca/534951 |
| 23:01.01 | tsdogs | :) colors can be changed. did some trick for the gradient. |
| 23:01.36 | tsdogs | Now need to add some infos, and this is done :) |
| 23:01.48 | cr2 | tsdogs: the transparent png pics are in the cab too. fyi :) |
| 23:02.07 | Kevin2 | pH5: Yeah, looks like the section_name array is empty. |
| 23:02.08 | tsdogs | they are copyrighted I guess |
| 23:02.17 | cr2 | tsdogs: of course. |
| 23:02.30 | tsdogs | so we need to make some new |
| 23:02.45 | tsdogs | but we can take some ideas |
| 23:03.09 | cr2 | yes. there are also tomtom & igo & copilot out there. |
| 23:03.29 | Kevin2 | pH5: Yes. Changing '.' to ' t ' does wonders. |
| 23:03.45 | tsdogs | cr2: I have tomtom on my uni. |
| 23:04.03 | cr2 | tsdogs: as with the other pics. the user can just put his own. |
| 23:05.11 | tsdogs | cr2: should I look to see how to have a nicer toolbar/menu ? more targeted for hh? |
| 23:05.42 | cr2 | tsdogs: actually this navitel looks like a remote garmin ripoff with some elements from igo. |
| 23:05.50 | cr2 | sure. |
| 23:06.04 | tsdogs | good |
| 23:06.22 | cr2 | i guess we are making the main "general" development now ;) |
| 23:07.25 | tsdogs | :) well the hard thing is when it comes to navigation changes. |
| 23:11.24 | cr2 | http://www.i-go.com/en |
| 23:11.35 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@lun34-2-82-238-28-28.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:12.03 | tsdogs | this is too cool graphics :) |
| 23:12.45 | cr2 | needs hw opengl probably. |
| 23:12.53 | Kevin2 | pH5: It would be cool if it could resolve the input table too. |
| 23:13.00 | tsdogs | cr2: I think so |
| 23:13.04 | BabelO | cr2: i know igo, it is really nice, i prefer it than tomtom |
| 23:13.15 | Kevin2 | s/input/import/ |
| 23:14.06 | cr2 | Kevin2: the binary produced by testwm5 are a bit broken. IDA does not really like them. |
| 23:28.57 | cr2 | tsdogs: sent. |
| 23:29.05 | tsdogs | ok thx |
| 23:30.25 | cr2 | so the cities/villages/etc. are missing. and the polygon count is limited. |
| 23:30.49 | cr2 | there is something called "landmarks", but i#m not sure it can help. |
| 23:31.00 | tsdogs | hmm no idea |
| 23:31.12 | cr2 | they are associated with the polygons. |
| 23:31.23 | cr2 | but i'm not sure if they can be standalone. |
| 23:31.39 | cr2 | probably need to check the TIGER maps, how they look like. |
| 23:31.52 | tsdogs | :) good luck |
| 23:32.31 | cr2 | http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net/screen-roadgps.jpg |
| 23:32.54 | tsdogs | that's how it was |
| 23:33.23 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.26 | cr2 | http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net/screenshots.html |
| 23:34.56 | tsdogs | For navigation it sould be enough. :) |
| 23:35.38 | cr2 | the pois are very helpful. |
| 23:36.13 | cr2 | fuel and so on. look how many of them garmin has. |
| 23:36.32 | cr2 | the main problem are the polygons. |
| 23:36.59 | cr2 | i can't even think about adding forests/parks/etc. |
| 23:37.08 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:37.19 | cr2 | because i've already exceeded the limit with major lakes ;) |
| 23:37.36 | tsdogs | The map you sent me looks very good. |
| 23:37.54 | cr2 | yes, but without the names, forests and so on ;) |
| 23:38.21 | cr2 | there are probable 1500 villages there. |
| 23:38.30 | cr2 | how should i deal with that ? |
| 23:38.52 | cr2 | with zip codes, phone numbers and so on. |
| 23:38.54 | tsdogs | street names are in. |
| 23:39.00 | tsdogs | ok |
| 23:39.20 | cr2 | yes, but the village names are a different kind of object. |
| 23:39.25 | tsdogs | what would be needed for that to be supported? |
| 23:40.01 | cr2 | stripping down the "line" class, i think. |
| 23:40.29 | cr2 | and linking a sprite to the poi layer type. |
| 23:41.10 | tsdogs | ok, so the map structure must change. |
| 23:41.11 | cr2 | you have seen it in the .skin file, how it is done garmin-type. |
| 23:41.15 | cr2 | yes. |
| 23:45.56 | tsdogs | ok it's late now. tomorrow got to work. |
| 23:46.01 | tsdogs | good night everybody |
| 23:46.43 | cr2 | good night. |
