| 00:00.56 | cr2 | goxboxlive: still here ? |
| 00:01.05 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 00:01.43 | cr2 | 1. i don't video/s-video/usb out cable :( |
| 00:01.52 | cr2 | http://www.expansys.de/p.aspx?i=145166 |
| 00:02.11 | cr2 | and where is the preinstalled tomtom6 ??? |
| 00:02.16 | cr2 | i don't see it. |
| 00:02.33 | cr2 | my cable has only VGA. |
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| 00:02.44 | goxboxlive | I was aware of that |
| 00:03.03 | goxboxlive | SOmeone complained about it in a norwegian site |
| 00:03.45 | cr2 | 12€ postage for this cable. |
| 00:04.32 | cr2 | should tomtom be in the package ? |
| 00:05.28 | cr2 | funny. both cables cost the same if you buy them. |
| 00:06.09 | cr2 | ah, the headset button. i need to check the gpio. |
| 00:06.29 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 00:06.40 | psokolovsky_ | FYI, RNDIS now works for pxa27x |
| 00:08.18 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: but does it work on amd64 ? |
| 00:08.31 | psokolovsky_ | ;-)) |
| 00:08.35 | cr2 | i don't see the wince device from my notebook. |
| 00:08.40 | psokolovsky_ | should work even on alpha ;-) |
| 00:09.46 | cr2 | hm. you are right. afaik there is a usb1.1 host on some alphas :) |
| 00:09.54 | psokolovsky_ | rndis allows to see linux device under 'doze |
| 00:10.59 | cr2 | goxboxlive: xda-dev has "copilot on ameo" thread :) i was also thinking about it. |
| 00:11.44 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: yes, but it may be also useful for running haret. usually i use wifi ... |
| 00:11.45 | goxboxlive | cr2: i am not so found of copilot, i think TomTom is more userfriendly |
| 00:12.20 | cr2 | it's probably easier to make copilot running, than tomtom ? |
| 00:13.33 | cr2 | goxboxlive: who has said that tomtom is preinstalled ? |
| 00:14.29 | goxboxlive | nonoe, but someone expected it because of the price |
| 00:14.40 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: what do you think will be a timescale for a COFF loader ? |
| 00:14.53 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: ?? ;-) |
| 00:14.57 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the sable comes with tomtom preinstalled |
| 00:15.05 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: wine :) |
| 00:15.08 | goxboxlive | yes, most of them do |
| 00:15.36 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: I actually now think that kqemu/arm would be more sustainabel approach ;-E |
| 00:15.54 | cr2 | goxboxlive: actually i'd be more happy to run roadmap than tomtom :) |
| 00:16.26 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: what programs do you expect to run ? |
| 00:16.48 | goxboxlive | :) yes i know |
| 00:16.57 | goxboxlive | well it's getting late |
| 00:17.00 | goxboxlive | night |
| 00:17.05 | cr2 | good night. |
| 00:17.10 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: well, same story - mapping first of all. I use ozi mostly though. |
| 00:17.45 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: and actually, i kinda think that just writing few of them for linux might be a good idea too ;-D |
| 00:17.56 | cr2 | btw, do you know that there is a ozf2tiff converter ? |
| 00:18.10 | cr2 | well, we are working on roadmap |
| 00:19.11 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: well, nope, only know about ozf2bmp ;-) |
| 00:19.16 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: that's cool! |
| 00:19.22 | cr2 | bmp sux. |
| 00:19.49 | cr2 | search for ozf2tiff on google. |
| 00:19.55 | psokolovsky_ | ah, roadmap is vector? |
| 00:19.59 | psokolovsky_ | vector suxx! |
| 00:20.19 | cr2 | lol. |
| 00:20.52 | cr2 | unless qpegps will support tiled tiff or ozf2, i'm not going to use it. |
| 00:24.15 | cr2 | good night. |
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| 10:32.46 | goxboxlive | strange, my screen flicker suddenly with OpieII. |
| 10:54.47 | goxboxlive | Ok, it has something to do with the kernel zImage. With 21-hh4 it flickers when the TS it otouched. But with 21-hh3 it woks OK. |
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| 11:06.52 | goxboxlive | I builded the kernel and the modules in OE mai 18th. How do i check out the hh.org kernel tree that date? |
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| 12:44.30 | goxboxlive | cr2: there? |
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| 13:34.40 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 13:35.03 | goxboxlive | How does OPie2 know where my soundcard is (or output) |
| 13:52.45 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 13:52.54 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 13:53.13 | BabelO | don't know, works like in opie |
| 13:53.45 | BabelO | did you try usb rndis on universal ? |
| 13:54.08 | goxboxlive | isent that with windows? |
| 13:54.31 | BabelO | yes |
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| 13:54.48 | goxboxlive | no, i dont have windows, only at work |
| 13:54.59 | BabelO | ok like me |
| 13:55.01 | ltxda | hello all |
| 13:55.18 | goxboxlive | And i am not going back to work for over 10 weeks now :-) |
| 13:55.21 | BabelO | hi ltxda |
| 13:55.52 | goxboxlive | BabelO: IS alarmsound working for you in opie2? |
| 13:56.03 | ltxda | just noticed the post about Linux on Athena on the forum and wanted to ask a quick question...possible to dual boot WM5/Linux on Athena? |
| 13:56.27 | goxboxlive | ltxda, it wil be when sd or hdd is working |
| 13:56.29 | BabelO | goxboxlive: good idea i ve to try , f it works, maybe i found my sound issue |
| 13:56.35 | ltxda | understood. |
| 13:56.54 | ltxda | what flavor you guys testing with and are you just using grub to manage? |
| 13:56.56 | goxboxlive | BabelO, what sound issue do you have ? |
| 13:57.22 | goxboxlive | ltxda, using haret |
| 13:57.22 | BabelO | goxboxlive: how to play ring ;) |
| 13:57.37 | goxboxlive | BabelO, ok |
| 13:57.38 | ltxda | goxboxlive, thx. |
| 13:57.44 | goxboxlive | ltxda, welcome |
| 13:58.36 | ltxda | reading through the haret FAQ now so I don't have to post all questions here ;-) |
| 14:00.15 | cr2 | hi |
| 14:00.29 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
| 14:00.38 | cr2 | ltxda: i did not use haret for this screenshot |
| 14:00.43 | BabelO | hi cr2 , i see you found ide entry on athena ;) |
| 14:00.46 | cr2 | hi goxboxlive |
| 14:00.55 | ltxda | ok |
| 14:00.58 | cr2 | well, at least not directly. |
| 14:01.15 | ltxda | i also have a TyTN if you need anyone to test. that's my "old" phone. :-) |
| 14:01.27 | cr2 | it was a common executable built with "ramboot" haret feature. |
| 14:01.37 | ltxda | ah, gotcha. |
| 14:01.47 | cr2 | a similar executable was used on tytn . |
| 14:02.18 | cr2 | ltxda: linux on a wince device runs as a wince program. |
| 14:02.26 | ltxda | i'll give my TyTN a try first. any luck on booting to GUI's on HTC devices or just text? |
| 14:02.38 | cr2 | it just happens to remove wince completely in the process :) |
| 14:02.44 | ltxda | lol |
| 14:02.46 | ltxda | ooops |
| 14:02.52 | cr2 | but only from RAM. |
| 14:02.56 | ltxda | i want to be able to dual boot. |
| 14:03.30 | cr2 | after you do soft reset, you return into wince5. |
| 14:03.34 | ltxda | nice to run nmap on athena with wifi. |
| 14:03.38 | cr2 | nothing is destroyed. |
| 14:03.45 | ltxda | cr2, oh ok. that's good. |
| 14:04.02 | ltxda | ok so you run from memory. |
| 14:04.03 | cr2 | it will take some time for nmap with wifi |
| 14:04.16 | ltxda | and then the shift will come out. |
| 14:04.17 | cr2 | yes, right now. |
| 14:04.54 | cr2 | because there is not driver for G4, ATI-miniSD, or EPSON-ATA-microdrive. |
| 14:05.07 | cr2 | s/not/no/ |
| 14:05.08 | ltxda | epson-ata-microdrive? |
| 14:05.20 | ltxda | i thought it was hitachi? |
| 14:05.39 | cr2 | yes, the 8GB hitachi microdrive is connected to the ATA controller made by epson. |
| 14:05.44 | ltxda | aaah |
| 14:05.52 | cr2 | pcmcia=CF=ATA |
| 14:06.11 | ltxda | i see. now i understand a little better what I read about the HD and connections, etc. |
| 14:06.46 | cr2 | afaik somebody who x-rayed his athena , connected a 16GB CF card instead :) |
| 14:06.58 | ltxda | can anyone recommend a good irc client for WM5? |
| 14:07.20 | ltxda | damn, that's what I wanted to do. Get rid of microdrive and put 16GB CF card in. |
| 14:07.26 | cr2 | ltxda: which athena do you have ? |
| 14:07.36 | ltxda | htc x7500, black. |
| 14:07.43 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:07.53 | cr2 | i'd like to know the boardid version. |
| 14:08.01 | cr2 | because i have ameo. |
| 14:08.02 | ltxda | no problem. just tell me how to get it. |
| 14:08.34 | cr2 | do you have a full 4-in-1 ext. cable ? |
| 14:08.39 | ltxda | yep |
| 14:08.43 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:08.46 | ltxda | bought one before I got the phone in. |
| 14:08.56 | cr2 | can you access athena over wifi ? |
| 14:09.03 | ltxda | yep |
| 14:09.11 | ltxda | think so....at least. |
| 14:09.17 | cr2 | well, then install haret and connect to athena :) |
| 14:09.25 | ltxda | i have it on my wifi and have been accessing my network...but haven't tried the reverse. |
| 14:09.39 | ltxda | just move haret to SD and execute? |
| 14:09.56 | cr2 | yes. |
| 14:10.03 | ltxda | 0.4.7? |
| 14:10.11 | cr2 | btw, do you have tomtom preinstalled ? |
| 14:10.19 | cr2 | does not matter which version. |
| 14:10.28 | ltxda | no preinstalled. I purchased the entire package so not using the one that came with the device. why what's up? |
| 14:10.33 | cr2 | for detecting the boardid. |
| 14:10.36 | ltxda | it's installed |
| 14:10.47 | ltxda | ok, tell me how to get you the boardid? |
| 14:11.01 | cr2 | i don't have it preinstalled, but have read somewhere that it is preinstalled. |
| 14:11.13 | ltxda | no it doesn't come preinstalled with x7500. |
| 14:11.23 | ltxda | it comes on a disc. you install from there if you wish. |
| 14:11.29 | cr2 | but i have some spyware app, that suggests to dowload the ephemeris. |
| 14:11.42 | ltxda | ? |
| 14:11.42 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:11.49 | ltxda | did you need the CAB? |
| 14:12.00 | cr2 | i don't open m$ sealed CDs. |
| 14:12.06 | ltxda | lol |
| 14:12.16 | ltxda | to avoid the license agreement? |
| 14:12.27 | cr2 | no, i'd like to have roadmap instead. |
| 14:12.32 | ltxda | lol |
| 14:13.02 | ltxda | ok going to download the latest version...brb |
| 14:13.10 | cr2 | sometimes the garmin maps for roadmap are much better than anything for tomtom. |
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| 14:13.50 | ltxda | really. |
| 14:14.00 | ltxda | i just downloaded igo to give it a test. |
| 14:14.18 | ltxda | i may want to run two gps proggies. |
| 14:14.25 | ltxda | just in case. :-) |
| 14:14.41 | ltxda | ok have it downloaded...just move to SD and execute? what will it do? should I backup??? |
| 14:15.05 | ltxda | moving to sd now. |
| 14:16.02 | cr2 | only the RAM will be wiped. |
| 14:16.22 | ltxda | k and after soft reset all will be back to normal? |
| 14:16.39 | cr2 | yes. |
| 14:16.45 | ltxda | dong now |
| 14:17.05 | cr2 | te hard reset is needed only on wince2003. |
| 14:17.11 | ltxda | phew |
| 14:17.43 | ltxda | ok...says "default.txt" then has a RUN button and then a button to "Listen for network connection, etc....just leave all defaults or change something? |
| 14:17.54 | cr2 | because it stores a lot of OS data structures in RAM. |
| 14:18.00 | cr2 | only "Listen" |
| 14:18.16 | cr2 | do you know the ip of athena ? |
| 14:18.27 | ltxda | no but let me get it. |
| 14:18.32 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:18.37 | ltxda | need to soft reset cause i already did it. lol |
| 14:18.48 | cr2 | ? |
| 14:18.52 | ltxda | clicked listen |
| 14:19.11 | ltxda | nm, getting ip now |
| 14:19.36 | cr2 | yeah, haret is a bit unfriendly as a wince app :) |
| 14:19.42 | ltxda | ok got the ip |
| 14:19.49 | ltxda | have it listening...what next? |
| 14:19.57 | cr2 | to the other windows. it's a modeless dialog actually. |
| 14:20.04 | cr2 | telnet ip 9999 |
| 14:20.18 | ltxda | thank goodness i'm a computer tech ;-) |
| 14:20.33 | ltxda | ok i'm in |
| 14:20.43 | cr2 | hehe. othewise it's unlikely that you check linux at such stage. |
| 14:20.46 | ltxda | oh i see what you did with the screenshot now. lol |
| 14:20.52 | ltxda | right. |
| 14:20.57 | ltxda | smart way of doing it. :-D |
| 14:21.12 | ltxda | ok what command do i run to check boardid? Also, what purpose does the boardid serve? |
| 14:21.48 | cr2 | it's not yet clear. on other devices the boardid decides which LCD panel you have. |
| 14:22.02 | ltxda | ah. |
| 14:22.05 | cr2 | looking up the mapping. |
| 14:22.14 | ltxda | ooops...device went to sleep and connection lost. |
| 14:22.16 | ltxda | let me reconnect |
| 14:22.32 | cr2 | don't run on the battery. |
| 14:22.43 | ltxda | thnx, ;-) |
| 14:22.46 | goxboxlive | BabelO, i am trying to build without alsa now. But the it chooses "oss". Is that any better? |
| 14:23.00 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaMemoryMap |
| 14:23.27 | cr2 | CPLD2. |
| 14:23.27 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is old, but i have helix working with |
| 14:23.47 | goxboxlive | BabelO, do you also have had it working with alsa? |
| 14:23.58 | cr2 | ltxda: pd 0x0a000000 4 |
| 14:24.13 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i never try alsa :( can't compile with it |
| 14:24.29 | ltxda | ok ran the command |
| 14:24.30 | cr2 | goxboxlive: afair it was tsdogs who had alsa. |
| 14:24.39 | cr2 | ltxda: post the output. |
| 14:24.41 | ltxda | got 0a000000 | 00000000 |
| 14:24.44 | goxboxlive | BabelO, i also have had problem with compiling with alsa, but tsdogs learned me a trick |
| 14:24.47 | ltxda | that what you looking for? |
| 14:24.49 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 14:24.58 | cr2 | it may be write-only. |
| 14:25.02 | ltxda | i typed "pd 0x0a000000 4" then ENTER |
| 14:25.30 | cr2 | then it's not easy. |
| 14:25.35 | cr2 | hmm. strange. |
| 14:25.37 | ltxda | and get "0a000000 | 00000000" |
| 14:25.51 | cr2 | well, but maybe it's really boardid 0. |
| 14:25.59 | ltxda | actuall has another | with .... at the end. |
| 14:26.15 | cr2 | ltxda: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaCPLD2 |
| 14:26.16 | ltxda | i'm not sure how to read this so can't interpret info. |
| 14:26.38 | cr2 | read this page. |
| 14:26.43 | cr2 | and this one too. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaResearch |
| 14:26.49 | ltxda | reading. |
| 14:28.11 | ltxda | that is weird. the matrix for CPLD2 doesn't contain the return code I got. |
| 14:28.25 | ltxda | why did you ask about the 4in1 cable earlier? |
| 14:28.47 | cr2 | the low 16bit of the addr. |
| 14:29.00 | cr2 | because i got only 1-in-1. |
| 14:29.05 | ltxda | oh |
| 14:29.20 | cr2 | hm. maybe i'd check my boardid first. |
| 14:29.25 | ltxda | got a 4gig minisd also |
| 14:29.47 | cr2 | hehe. you are a wealthy guy :) |
| 14:29.59 | ltxda | some say yes some say no. ;-) |
| 14:30.08 | cr2 | i have tytn too, but it's not mine :) |
| 14:30.13 | ltxda | :-) |
| 14:30.19 | ltxda | I have Universal, TyTN and Athena. |
| 14:30.29 | ltxda | and a few others I can't remember about. |
| 14:30.35 | ltxda | i can't wait for the shift to come out. |
| 14:30.40 | cr2 | i have also blueangel, himalaya and sable. |
| 14:30.42 | ltxda | but if it doesn't have GPS I probably won't get it. |
| 14:30.53 | ltxda | i think you and I are adicted my friend. ;-) |
| 14:30.56 | cr2 | and universal, tytn and athena. |
| 14:31.29 | cr2 | once i'll have linux runnng on all of then, i'll sell off most of them. |
| 14:31.50 | ltxda | is there a market for that? |
| 14:32.08 | cr2 | don't care. just don't need so much devices. |
| 14:32.12 | ltxda | lol |
| 14:32.16 | ltxda | i should try selling some of mine. |
| 14:32.31 | ltxda | i'm just too lazy |
| 14:32.43 | ltxda | i don't like playing with "old" technology. :-D |
| 14:32.54 | ltxda | no offense to anyone here of course. |
| 14:33.26 | cr2 | it's the same tech in its core, actually. |
| 14:33.46 | ltxda | i was going to give my TyTN to my mom but with the slow response and screen alignment issues, she can hold on to her blackberry until later. |
| 14:33.52 | cr2 | himalaya uses an ATI chip, which is used on athena in a slightly modified form. |
| 14:34.00 | ltxda | ah |
| 14:34.10 | cr2 | so not that much progress in this area. |
| 14:34.15 | ltxda | i need to increase my overall knowledge of htc devices. |
| 14:34.44 | cr2 | and sirf gps in athena is not rocket science too. |
| 14:34.51 | cr2 | just convenience. |
| 14:35.18 | cr2 | himalaya is the oldest pxa-based htc phone. |
| 14:35.52 | cr2 | i like the pxa-based htc line. |
| 14:36.24 | cr2 | omap850-based is an underpowered undocumented mess. |
| 14:37.00 | cr2 | and s3c24xx is a cost-saving (and power-saving) alternative to pxa. |
| 14:37.20 | cr2 | maybe it will be better evetually, but i prefer pxa anyway. |
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| 14:37.35 | cr2 | it's like alpha vs. amd64 . maybe. |
| 14:37.37 | ltxda2 | oops, laptop battery died on me. |
| 14:38.00 | ltxda2 | cr2, you know of any good irc programs for my phone? |
| 14:38.15 | cr2 | i use my notebook. |
| 14:38.37 | ltxda2 | any of these?http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005IRCClients.asp |
| 14:38.52 | ltxda2 | i'm on my laptop also but want to get better connected on my Athena. |
| 14:38.53 | cr2 | i have a normal keyboard+normal mouse connected to it. |
| 14:38.55 | ltxda2 | I'll give some a try |
| 14:39.00 | ltxda2 | nice |
| 14:39.09 | cr2 | desktop is desktop :) |
| 14:39.15 | ltxda2 | yep |
| 14:39.40 | ltxda2 | well i have to run....gotta go get some errands done. I'll be back later. thnx for the chat. |
| 14:39.59 | cr2 | well, i can upload my .exe so you'll check it and can make a screenshot. |
| 14:40.05 | cr2 | that#s all for now. |
| 14:41.15 | ltxda2 | sure |
| 14:42.41 | ltxda2 | i'll be back later. glad there is an irc channel for htc linux :-D |
| 14:42.43 | ltxda2 | l8r all |
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| 14:49.27 | cr2 | goxboxlive: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-303828.html |
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| 15:04.18 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: applied patch for rndis usb broke file_storage :( |
| 15:04.31 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: yep |
| 15:04.47 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: oh, you already seen this ;) |
| 15:04.48 | psokolovsky_ | need to apply further RP patches |
| 15:04.51 | psokolovsky_ | helpw elcome ;-) |
| 15:05.00 | BabelO | ok, i wait then |
| 15:05.20 | BabelO | did you try it a long time with windows ? |
| 15:05.54 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: yep, feel free too, but that may take some time, as I generally assess state of the tree based on http://handhelds.org/~pfalcon/busyb/buildlogs/ ;-) |
| 15:06.35 | BabelO | i ve a lot of disconnect at work when i use ether rndis it seem it comes from network auto negociate |
| 15:07.10 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: oh yes, you have lot of work here :( |
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| 15:30.38 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: should be fixed. but please test and report how it is. |
| 15:39.45 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: thx, got issue with nfs boot actually, have message |
| 15:39.46 | BabelO | IP-Config : Incomplete network configuration information |
| 15:59.31 | cr2 | BabelO: can you check the qlandkarte compilation ? |
| 16:00.45 | BabelO | yes ;) |
| 16:00.57 | BabelO | did you boot over NFS on athena ? |
| 16:01.19 | cr2 | no. from initrd. linked in 1 .exe |
| 16:01.45 | cr2 | we should not use haret for booting, it#s too complex. |
| 16:08.25 | goxboxlive | I still get the missing ATOMIC_OPERTORS even though i compile with oss |
| 16:11.22 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Isent "helpbrowser" reading html files? COuldnt it just be expanded to support www? |
| 16:11.34 | goxboxlive | i'll ask lorn |
| 16:12.10 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes, it is a sample application that iuse qt web browser widget ;) |
| 16:12.37 | goxboxlive | BabelO, ok, so it could be expanded to supprt ww then? right? |
| 16:15.24 | BabelO | yes |
| 16:16.12 | goxboxlive | cool |
| 16:18.02 | goxboxlive | BabelO, did you try out system sounds? |
| 16:18.13 | BabelO | no |
| 16:20.15 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes it is possible to do it http://trolltech.com/products/qt/addon/solutions/catalog/4/Utilities/qtbrowserplugin/ |
| 16:23.25 | goxboxlive | sounds great. Then i mean we have the most important application. We will have gnuphone, roadmap and a webrowser. The only lack is irc and embeddedconsole (wich have somestuff allready in te source) |
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| 16:35.35 | ltxda | hello |
| 16:35.40 | BabelO | cr2: some change are needed |
| 16:35.44 | BabelO | CMainWindow.cpp:46: error: 'statusBar' was not declared in this scope |
| 16:35.45 | BabelO | CMainWindow.cpp:51: error: invalid use of undefined type 'struct QSplitter' |
| 16:36.04 | ltxda | i found a nice wm5 irc client and am on it now. ;-) |
| 16:39.58 | cr2 | ltxda: http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret |
| 16:40.13 | cr2 | athena-boot.exe |
| 16:40.30 | ltxda | looking... |
| 16:40.46 | cr2 | but it's not very useful without usb or keyboard driver. |
| 16:41.37 | cr2 | Kevin2: i have some questions for you. |
| 16:41.57 | ltxda | two things....typingon my phone and getting used to this new irc client and two...ill just have to order a usb key/mouse :-) |
| 16:42.04 | cr2 | BabelO: interesting. it works for me with qt4.2.2 |
| 16:42.08 | cr2 | on amd64 |
| 16:42.52 | BabelO | cr2: i m cross compiling with opie2 sources |
| 16:42.59 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:43.13 | cr2 | i'm wondering why there is such difference. |
| 16:43.15 | ltxda | what does this exe do? |
| 16:43.33 | cr2 | ltxda: boots linux. just click on it :) |
| 16:44.00 | ltxda | lol...sure...just click on it. |
| 16:44.47 | ltxda | ok going to download to my sd cardx now but cant try until i get my usb keyboard and mouse |
| 16:45.39 | ltxda | downloading it now. |
| 16:45.52 | ltxda | cr2, thnx for ur hospitality. |
| 16:46.03 | cr2 | get it with exploiter. |
| 16:46.13 | cr2 | heh. it's opera with DRM on athena. |
| 16:46.17 | ltxda | exploiter? |
| 16:46.27 | cr2 | defective-by-design 8) |
| 16:46.31 | ltxda | im using oper |
| 16:46.34 | ltxda | a |
| 16:46.48 | cr2 | internet exploder. |
| 16:47.38 | ltxda | ah |
| 16:48.20 | ltxda | oh i think i remember seeing that before. it's based on ie right? |
| 16:48.31 | cr2 | what ? |
| 16:48.50 | ltxda | exploiter? or am i lost? |
| 16:48.51 | cr2 | it is ie :) |
| 16:49.02 | ltxda | duh. |
| 16:49.14 | ltxda | ok i need to wake up |
| 16:54.28 | cr2 | ok, so does it work fo you ? |
| 16:56.50 | goxboxlive | BabelO, well i didnt have any luck with oss either. No sound, and no system sound. There have to be a way qtopia is handling the sound. Wonder what i have to change in the source. |
| 16:59.12 | ltxda | so just double click and it won't wipe anything but ram? |
| 16:59.28 | cr2 | ltxda: yes. |
| 16:59.40 | cr2 | we may consider signing it ;) |
| 17:00.16 | ltxda | thnx |
| 17:00.18 | goxboxlive | BabelO, but it seems like the "recorder" is working. It creates a recorded file |
| 17:00.19 | ltxda | brb |
| 17:00.40 | BabelO | goxboxlive: can't record with BA |
| 17:00.53 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:00.57 | BabelO | goxboxlive: driver not support it at the moment |
| 17:01.01 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:01.26 | goxboxlive | BabelO, but what the heck is wrong with sound setup? |
| 17:01.39 | goxboxlive | maybe it is hadcoded somewhere |
| 17:04.21 | cr2 | BabelO: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/qsplitter.html |
| 17:04.21 | goxboxlive | and i have tried to play a mp4 video file, but it doesnt recognize it as a helix file |
| 17:06.09 | BabelO | cr2: yes i see it, bt don't understand why it is not used :( |
| 17:07.01 | cr2 | statusBar() not declared ? |
| 17:07.08 | BabelO | yes |
| 17:07.20 | goxboxlive | BabelO, i treid to play the recorded file with mplayer now and it played it . So recording is working for me |
| 17:07.20 | BabelO | i check again -I path |
| 17:07.50 | cr2 | BabelO: which version are you using ? |
| 17:08.06 | cr2 | my source lines do not match. |
| 17:09.05 | BabelO | cr2: 25.05.2007 |
| 17:09.14 | BabelO | latest |
| 17:09.25 | cr2 | hm. svn ? |
| 17:09.37 | cr2 | i think i've used some released version. |
| 17:09.45 | cr2 | i'll check the svn. |
| 17:09.49 | goxboxlive | BabelO, are you also using /dev/audio? |
| 17:10.01 | BabelO | cr2: not svn latest download from sf |
| 17:10.14 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i don't know |
| 17:10.45 | goxboxlive | hmm |
| 17:10.51 | cr2 | BabelO: QLandkarte.2007.04.20.tar.gz |
| 17:11.18 | cr2 | but there are newer tagged versions. |
| 17:11.32 | BabelO | cr2: this one http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=183501 |
| 17:11.52 | goxboxlive | cr2: Do you know where the sound output is on BA? Is it the same as on universal? |
| 17:12.43 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the /dev/dsp ? |
| 17:12.45 | goxboxlive | ok, like ours |
| 17:12.52 | cr2 | otherwise the implementations are very different. |
| 17:13.00 | goxboxlive | the qtopia is not lining to some other output |
| 17:13.09 | cr2 | this is the oss emulation. |
| 17:13.12 | goxboxlive | s/lining/linking |
| 17:13.37 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, it's newer than my compiled version. |
| 17:13.41 | goxboxlive | I just dont getthat we dont have sound and BA has |
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| 17:15.45 | ltxda2 | it worked...had to soft reset of course. how soon do u think there will be native keyboard support? |
| 17:16.33 | cr2 | BabelO: the current svn compiles on amd64. i#ll check your version. |
| 17:17.13 | BabelO | cr2: ok but i think it is a path issue, i miss something |
| 17:17.19 | cr2 | ltxda2: i need to talk to Kevin2. there is such SPI keyboard driver for blueangel, but we need a common driver for athena and hermes(tytn) too. |
| 17:18.56 | ltxda2 | k. has anyone tried testing the existing one? |
| 17:19.59 | ltxda2 | i know it'll bug out. |
| 17:20.42 | cr2 | existing one ? |
| 17:21.03 | ltxda2 | i guess someone has to write the athena driver also. |
| 17:21.24 | cr2 | the usb does not work , because its PUEN bit is on the CPLD, and we want here a common driver too. |
| 17:21.44 | cr2 | Kevin2 said he will have a look at it on the weekend, i.e. today. |
| 17:22.01 | ltxda2 | nice |
| 17:22.13 | cr2 | btw, you can try to connect the USB cable (not the host) in windows, and then boot linux. |
| 17:22.32 | cr2 | it may work. |
| 17:22.40 | cr2 | it works on tytn, btw. |
| 17:23.10 | ltxda2 | i dont have it wth me now but will try it when i get a chance. |
| 17:23.21 | ltxda2 | brb |
| 17:32.10 | cr2 | BabelO: compiling your version. |
| 17:32.38 | BabelO | ok |
| 17:34.38 | cr2 | BabelO: compiled. |
| 17:35.50 | cr2 | find . | xargs grep statusBar |
| 17:36.41 | cr2 | hm. not defined. |
| 17:36.41 | cr2 | must be in some qt header. |
| 17:37.16 | cr2 | ./Qt/qmainwindow.h: QStatusBar *statusBar() const; |
| 17:37.36 | BabelO | cr2: yes, so it is a path issue |
| 17:37.50 | cr2 | #ifndef QT_NO_STATUSBAR |
| 17:37.50 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.50 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.50 | cr2 | #endif |
| 17:38.01 | cr2 | it may be some qt evilness. |
| 17:38.13 | cr2 | need to check it in the opie tree. |
| 17:38.23 | cr2 | maybe they removed the statusbar |
| 17:38.45 | cr2 | like they have removed QPainter.transform() in qtopia2. |
| 17:38.57 | cr2 | so .rotate failed., |
| 17:40.23 | goxboxlive | (Transport endpoint is not connected) |
| 17:46.00 | cr2 | BabelO: which config is actually used ? |
| 17:46.21 | BabelO | cr2: config ? |
| 17:46.31 | cr2 | The file qconfig-qpe.h disables features of Qtopia Core that Qtopia Platform does not use. |
| 17:47.14 | BabelO | cr2: ah |
| 17:48.03 | cr2 | See doc/html/emb-features.html for choices. |
| 17:48.24 | cr2 | so it's a question which option do you have :) |
| 17:48.44 | BabelO | #ifndef QT_NO_STATUSBAR |
| 17:48.44 | BabelO | # define QT_NO_STATUSBAR |
| 17:48.44 | BabelO | #endif |
| 17:49.44 | cr2 | small, dist, large, minimal, medium, qpe |
| 17:50.09 | cr2 | we need to set some standard. |
| 17:50.12 | cr2 | now. |
| 17:50.45 | cr2 | otherwise it will be very painful later. because of the binary incompatibility, missing symbols, etc. |
| 17:51.03 | cr2 | not the fscking sharp zaurus fiasco once again. |
| 17:51.59 | cr2 | on a 128MB machine like ba/hima/athena it's a good idea to enable all available options. |
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| 17:55.08 | ltxda | :-) |
| 17:59.23 | ltxda | test |
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| 18:06.10 | cr2 | BabelO: http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/emb-features.html |
| 18:06.31 | cr2 | The -qconfig option to configure is used to select the configuration. |
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| 18:08.28 | ltxda | so how is everyone today? |
| 18:41.48 | BabelO | cr2: do you know vlc player ? |
| 18:43.38 | ltxda | vlc good player |
| 18:44.44 | BabelO | ltxda: yes, i ve to record some old vhs for tomorrow, but can'tset color balance :( |
| 18:56.07 | ltxda | weird |
| 18:57.07 | ltxda | what format r the video's? |
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| 19:40.21 | myzinsk1 | hi |
| 19:41.04 | myzinsk1 | ich hab durch zufall gesehn das linux auch auf meinem xda laufen könnte und den irc hier gefunden |
| 19:42.19 | myzinsk1 | gibts ein gutes deutsches howto? |
| 19:44.23 | BabelO | myzinsk1: hi, please in english ;) |
| 19:44.31 | myzinsk1 | okay |
| 19:44.52 | myzinsk1 | i found thet here: http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/README |
| 19:45.19 | myzinsk1 | will it works on XDA-mini-s from O2 germany |
| 19:45.22 | myzinsk1 | ?? |
| 19:46.41 | BabelO | myzinsk1: yes, Xda mini is a magician |
| 19:46.56 | myzinsk1 | sure? ;-) |
| 19:47.04 | BabelO | sure http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ |
| 19:47.31 | myzinsk1 | okay and windows and linux can both run on my phone? |
| 19:47.33 | BabelO | in this site you have for each HTC device name found from reseller |
| 19:47.47 | BabelO | myzinsk1: linux boot from SD card |
| 19:47.57 | BabelO | but magician have wm2003 |
| 19:48.21 | myzinsk1 | nonono |
| 19:48.23 | BabelO | if you boot linux on it then you lose all your data from wm2003 |
| 19:48.25 | myzinsk1 | mini-s |
| 19:48.37 | myzinsk1 | wizard |
| 19:48.38 | myzinsk1 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard |
| 19:48.51 | myzinsk1 | O2 XDA Mini S |
| 19:49.53 | BabelO | ok, so this readme is not for wizard |
| 19:49.59 | BabelO | look here instead http://linwizard.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:50.22 | myzinsk1 | ahh okay |
| 19:50.40 | myzinsk1 | but i can also run bioth on my phone? |
| 19:50.42 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: so, did you resolve your NFS issues? |
| 19:51.07 | myzinsk1 | can call anybody with linux? |
| 19:51.09 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: no, i just finished my new image, so i can test file_storage |
| 19:51.32 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: there is something missing from static defconfig i think |
| 19:51.54 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: ok. I confirm that CVS HEAD works for me on both h4000 & hx4700 (pxa255 & pxa270) |
| 19:52.04 | BabelO | myzinsk1: i don't think wizard port is so for |
| 19:52.12 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: from defconfiman? can't be |
| 19:52.31 | myzinsk1 | for? |
| 19:52.50 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: ok, so something change on my haret config file |
| 19:53.12 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: ok, send patches in case ;-) |
| 19:53.48 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: ok, thx for quick storage fix ;) |
| 19:54.35 | BabelO | myzinsk1: check website linwizard |
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| 20:12.51 | myzinsk1 | i dont understand |
| 20:12.53 | myzinsk1 | can i run then both?? |
| 20:12.56 | myzinsk1 | win an lin? |
| 20:13.38 | ltxda | hi |
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| 21:04.54 | goxboxlive | BabelO, are you at home now? |
| 21:11.27 | goxboxlive | cr2 here? |
| 21:13.33 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:13.38 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 21:13.43 | goxboxlive | any news about athena? |
| 21:14.07 | cr2 | no. |
| 21:14.08 | goxboxlive | has Kevin2 been around yet? |
| 21:14.11 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 21:14.13 | cr2 | what do you expect ? :) |
| 21:14.19 | cr2 | no. |
| 21:14.52 | cr2 | BabelO: are you here? |
| 21:15.29 | goxboxlive | Well, i have been away for about three hours now, so lets see: working kbd, wifi BT HDD and half away on the SD |
| 21:15.29 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 21:15.29 | goxboxlive | Have you seen |
| 21:15.56 | goxboxlive | #OPie has been spil in to three channels now because of the (war) against hh.org and linuxtogo |
| 21:16.05 | goxboxlive | s/spil/split/ |
| 21:16.09 | cr2 | ? |
| 21:16.18 | goxboxlive | havent you heard? |
| 21:16.21 | cr2 | opie1 ? |
| 21:16.25 | cr2 | no. |
| 21:16.34 | cr2 | tell me :) i like flamewars. |
| 21:17.31 | goxboxlive | There where one #Opie irc channel and a gpe channel. Linuxtogo guys moved the gpe source over to linuxtogo, hh.org where mad and claimed that the name gpe where their trademark |
| 21:17.58 | goxboxlive | so hh.org took the gpe irc channel and renamed it to handhelds-gpe |
| 21:18.00 | cr2 | hh.org is a US site. |
| 21:18.06 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:18.13 | cr2 | and where is linuxtogo ? |
| 21:18.19 | goxboxlive | wu |
| 21:18.20 | goxboxlive | eu |
| 21:18.27 | goxboxlive | germany i think |
| 21:18.55 | cr2 | ok, so the question is only if gpe is a trademark in germany ;) |
| 21:19.19 | goxboxlive | And hh.org where mad a ljp because he named the OPIE2 for OPie2 and had the source at linuxtogo |
| 21:19.32 | goxboxlive | they alsoi claim that the name is theirs |
| 21:19.53 | goxboxlive | so now there is two #gpe irc channels and three opie |
| 21:19.57 | cr2 | i have linux wasching powder box at home. no problems so far. |
| 21:19.59 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:20.06 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 21:20.14 | cr2 | i don't mind if it will be called qtopia. |
| 21:20.26 | goxboxlive | This isnot good for the hanhelds commuity |
| 21:20.30 | goxboxlive | it's total split |
| 21:20.38 | goxboxlive | me neither |
| 21:20.39 | cr2 | opie1 is dead. |
| 21:20.46 | cr2 | like the classic PDAs. |
| 21:20.49 | goxboxlive | well, allmost |
| 21:20.52 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 21:20.58 | cr2 | we need qtopia4. |
| 21:21.24 | goxboxlive | If BabelO makes the gnuphone also for opie1 i guess it will bringed back a little |
| 21:21.32 | goxboxlive | Beacuse all the apps to it |
| 21:21.42 | cr2 | ljp said there is nothing against recovering missing phone headers in qtopia from the html docs. |
| 21:21.48 | goxboxlive | and i notice, qt is much faster than gtk |
| 21:22.00 | cr2 | i wonder if he will accept them into opie2. |
| 21:22.24 | goxboxlive | i dont know |
| 21:23.11 | goxboxlive | qtopia needs it i guess. There arent much intrest in Qtopia as far as i can see, looks like we are th eonly onewho plays with it |
| 21:23.19 | cr2 | imho raw gtk is ok. but i'll never like write to write a gui program in gtk. |
| 21:23.31 | cr2 | we are the only who does anything with the phones. |
| 21:23.39 | cr2 | so it#s not surprising. |
| 21:23.43 | goxboxlive | ALot of people are mad at Trolltech because of the gap between the opensource release |
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| 21:24.12 | goxboxlive | right |
| 21:24.13 | cr2 | well, trolltech has its own agenda. |
| 21:24.22 | goxboxlive | yes of course |
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| 21:24.39 | cr2 | we can't force them to release the phone code, they have their own reasons for not doing it. |
| 21:25.10 | goxboxlive | Yes, i read a norwegian articel about it, and they are afraid of chineses companies |
| 21:25.14 | cr2 | what we should care about, is how we can advance from the current place. |
| 21:25.21 | goxboxlive | will copy it |
| 21:25.37 | goxboxlive | yes, and we are on our way |
| 21:25.45 | goxboxlive | cr2: while i remember it |
| 21:26.05 | cr2 | if the chinese want to copy something they will do it anyway. even if you will stick the head in the sand. |
| 21:26.25 | cr2 | but tt has its own opinion ;) |
| 21:26.30 | goxboxlive | Between .21-hh3 and hh4 there has been some changes in the kernel source wich affects Opie2. |
| 21:26.50 | cr2 | which ones ? |
| 21:27.12 | goxboxlive | When i touch the screen it flicker wiuth hh4, but with hh3 (18th may) it works all fine |
| 21:28.05 | cr2 | did something change in the pxafb code ? |
| 21:28.05 | goxboxlive | do you know what might cause this? Have you noticed any changes in the tree that can disturb the lcd? |
| 21:28.05 | goxboxlive | I havent seen anything |
| 21:28.14 | goxboxlive | tsdogs has complained about it hin self |
| 21:29.06 | cr2 | hm. then it's necessary to make a diff. |
| 21:29.08 | goxboxlive | When opie2 where realeased i had the same problem, but when i started to build it again now it worked just fine. But the i upgraded the kernel to hh4 and the screen stated to flicker again. |
| 21:29.38 | cr2 | it may be a software problem. |
| 21:29.40 | BabelO | hi |
| 21:29.43 | goxboxlive | The image i uploaded has a zImage and modules wich where buildt 18th may |
| 21:29.46 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 21:30.05 | BabelO | got same issue on BA with screen fickering, only when resume device |
| 21:30.14 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i can't boot your image at all. that't even a bigger problem ;) |
| 21:30.19 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 21:30.48 | cr2 | BabelO: you have a different LCD driver. |
| 21:31.06 | goxboxlive | I tried it out once again today just to test the flicker stuff, and it booted and didnt flicker. So i have reverted my tkernel to hh3 |
| 21:31.22 | BabelO | cr2: yes i know, but it flicker after resume now |
| 21:31.30 | goxboxlive | cr2: It's not like the resume problem we had, that's works just fine now |
| 21:31.54 | cr2 | BabelO: can we drop gnokii for now, and create a compilable opie2 setup ? |
| 21:32.08 | goxboxlive | It's when you go in to a menu the screen flash ones and gets white for a second and the it's vback to normal |
| 21:32.31 | BabelO | cr2: drop gnokii ? remove it and use QT class ? |
| 21:33.03 | cr2 | BabelO: not really. just that one can use opie2 to test roadmap, for example. |
| 21:33.14 | goxboxlive | cr2: I have a image for that |
| 21:33.46 | cr2 | i don't know when i'll debug the DPRAM phone on athena, but it should not stop me from testing roadmap and qlandkarte :) |
| 21:33.53 | goxboxlive | BabelO, has made the opie2 to compile both ways |
| 21:34.05 | BabelO | cr2: it is already the case, button and keyboard are working, and also backlight... need to add some other thing for detection like headphone plugged |
| 21:34.28 | cr2 | headphone needs some kernel driver changes. |
| 21:34.45 | BabelO | cr2: yes you tell me we can add it to switch event ;) |
| 21:34.49 | BabelO | it is a good idea |
| 21:34.59 | cr2 | yes, it should be a switch event. |
| 21:35.20 | cr2 | there is no reason to force such mixer policy in the kernel. |
| 21:35.41 | cr2 | maybe on a PDA ;) |
| 21:36.09 | goxboxlive | BabelO, are you at homenow? I want to test the phone app |
| 21:36.10 | cr2 | that's why there is a separate i2c driver for ak4641 for universal. |
| 21:36.42 | BabelO | i don't want to force something, i like to keep ability to switch speaker on/off separatly from headphone, but need a notification from kernel when it is plug in |
| 21:37.02 | cr2 | BabelO: does it compile without /usr/local/* hacks ? |
| 21:37.19 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes i m at home, and need to eat ;) |
| 21:37.44 | cr2 | switching mics and speakers is a mixer task. |
| 21:37.46 | BabelO | cr2: no, you want to add tslib to third partiy ? |
| 21:38.00 | cr2 | pure userspace. |
| 21:38.04 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:38.17 | cr2 | imho it should be there. |
| 21:38.26 | BabelO | cr2: yes it is a mixer task, but it is a good idea to notify userspace that headphone is added |
| 21:38.36 | cr2 | there is no rational reason why it it should not be there. |
| 21:38.59 | cr2 | BabelO: of course. there should be a switch event. |
| 21:39.56 | BabelO | cr2: ok, on ba there is only this event needed i think |
| 21:40.17 | goxboxlive | BabelO, could you mail it to me when you have time then. |
| 21:40.25 | BabelO | SD card is always plug in and not removable ;) |
| 21:40.41 | cr2 | the problem is that the current ak4641 makes a lot of assumptions and has some complex sync code. |
| 21:41.02 | cr2 | the SD hotplug is a common problem. |
| 21:41.42 | cr2 | there is a wbsd driver, it should be hotpluggable, because it#s a notebook chipset. |
| 21:42.03 | cr2 | so asic3_mmc just needs such adaptation. |
| 21:44.03 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes sure, i m trying it |
| 21:44.13 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 21:45.05 | cr2 | BabelO: how do we enable the complete qconfig ? |
| 21:46.13 | BabelO | cr2: i don't know. when you speak about this, i remember it from old opie build, when building qt-embbeded by hand |
| 21:48.18 | cr2 | BabelO: but it must have been generated somehow. |
| 21:48.36 | cr2 | by ./configure of something like that. |
| 21:48.50 | cr2 | i think there is some .txt file which is converted. |
| 21:49.10 | cr2 | hm. ljp disappeared. |
| 21:51.37 | cr2 | -qconfig $qconfig |
| 21:51.49 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.01 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.01 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.01 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.20 | BabelO | cr2: maybe we can found how by reading old opie documentation |
| 21:52.35 | cr2 | so it is qpe if there is no device-specific file. |
| 21:52.52 | cr2 | does greenphone has specific qconfig.h ? |
| 21:53.16 | cr2 | tsdogs said that there is a 4.2.2 greenphone iso ? |
| 21:53.27 | cr2 | maybe i should download it. |
| 21:54.13 | BabelO | yes, it is with sdk and took over 3Go disk space ;) |
| 21:56.59 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:58.23 | cr2 | our config_path is devices/htcphone ? |
| 22:00.36 | cr2 | # Make sure qconfig-qpe.h is there |
| 22:00.48 | cr2 | symlink_file("$depotpath/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h", "$qt_depot_path/src/corelib/global/qconfig-qpe.h"); |
| 22:01.02 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.02 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.02 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.03 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.56 | cr2 | so the question is if the qconfig-htcphone.h is autogenerated from something, or we can just create it. |
| 22:02.50 | cr2 | it seems that we can just create our own devices/htcphone/qconfig.h |
| 22:04.24 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.06 | cr2 | # locate libqtopiaphone.so and libqtopiaphonemodem.so |
| 22:06.25 | BabelO | cr2: so it is a good idea to reverse engineering from documention |
| 22:07.11 | BabelO | maybe more easy than from asm |
| 22:07.12 | BabelO | lol |
| 22:07.52 | cr2 | BabelO: they do not always match ;) then i'll rely on asm data. |
| 22:08.08 | cr2 | it's actually objdump --demangle, not asm. |
| 22:10.28 | BabelO | what is the output of this ? |
| 22:12.14 | cr2 | you demangle the c++ symbols. |
| 22:12.38 | cr2 | so they are pretty, not just some _Z100foobarQWERTZ |
| 22:12.47 | BabelO | ok |
| 22:13.43 | cr2 | ok, since no devices use custom qconfig.h then it's |
| 22:13.45 | cr2 | ./qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h |
| 22:13.47 | cr2 | for all. |
| 22:14.29 | cr2 | some things are ok. like QT_NO_SOCKS5 |
| 22:14.58 | cr2 | but there are also NO_CURSOR, NO_MOUSE |
| 22:15.20 | cr2 | MOTIF, CDE :) |
| 22:15.31 | BabelO | nice look ;) |
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| 22:15.46 | cr2 | NO_DIAL ? |
| 22:15.56 | cr2 | NO_TOOLTIP ? |
| 22:16.20 | cr2 | will, since you don#t have a mouse, you don't "need" tooltips ;) |
| 22:16.43 | cr2 | yes, and NO_STATUSBAR |
| 22:16.56 | cr2 | and NO_SPLITTER |
| 22:17.20 | BabelO | hum, so need a replacement |
| 22:17.32 | cr2 | ? |
| 22:17.44 | cr2 | you only need to enable it. |
| 22:18.04 | cr2 | since we are the first, we can set the rules :) |
| 22:18.17 | cr2 | greenphone compatibility does not count :) |
| 22:18.26 | BabelO | yes, but statusbar .... |
| 22:18.46 | BabelO | ok, so i have to remove this line from qconfig |
| 22:19.09 | BabelO | i ve compiled latest proj too |
| 22:19.15 | cr2 | create your own qconfig.h in device/htcphone |
| 22:19.27 | cr2 | so it will be picked up by ./configure |
| 22:20.01 | cr2 | NO_COLORDIALOG |
| 22:20.30 | cr2 | isn't it all too restrictive ? |
| 22:20.48 | BabelO | ok, before, have to finish my phone.. there are some things wrong in it |
| 22:21.14 | BabelO | thereis no dialog |
| 22:21.44 | cr2 | NO_COLORNAMES |
| 22:22.00 | cr2 | that's what broke the zroadmap. |
| 22:22.26 | cr2 | but they can be named #xxyyzz |
| 22:29.54 | BabelO | cr2: Alignment trap: dropbear (1573) PC=0x401d1ccc Instr=0xe7885004 Address=0xbe889faf FSR 0x813 |
| 22:30.00 | BabelO | what are these message ? |
| 22:30.34 | cr2 | buggy code in sshd |
| 22:31.03 | cr2 | char * casted not at a 4byte aligned address. |
| 22:31.27 | cr2 | or short * |
| 22:31.34 | cr2 | or int * |
| 22:31.37 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:32.02 | cr2 | it's not a problem on x86 |
| 22:32.13 | cr2 | but a big problem for the risc cpus. |
| 22:32.33 | BabelO | ok |
| 22:32.45 | cr2 | because it hurts performance. for many reasons. |
| 22:32.47 | BabelO | i ve this with a lot of app |
| 22:33.09 | cr2 | then it's all high-quality code. |
| 22:33.41 | cr2 | like typedef long foo_int64_t |
| 22:33.54 | cr2 | lol. |
| 22:33.59 | BabelO | :) |
| 22:34.08 | cr2 | it was "typedef long foo_int32_t" |
| 22:34.42 | cr2 | after i've changed it to 'typedef int' it worked. |
| 22:35.00 | cr2 | they must have been programming it on 8086 ;) |
| 22:35.13 | cr2 | or older 16bit cpu. |
| 22:35.32 | BabelO | cr2: for STATUSBAR and SPLITTER so i need to reconfigure |
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| 22:35.44 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:35.51 | BabelO | maybe splitter can be replaced by layout and statusbar removed |
| 22:35.56 | cr2 | have you changed blueangel to htcphone too ? |
| 22:36.13 | cr2 | we may complain on the qlandkarte mailing list. |
| 22:36.25 | BabelO | not at all, i want to send phone app to goxboxlive and tsdogs |
| 22:36.40 | goxboxlive | yes do that |
| 22:36.41 | cr2 | and ask to change the code to be more qtopia-friendly. |
| 22:36.42 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 22:37.12 | goxboxlive | Right now i am buying a new battery. I have broken two batteries allready :-) |
| 22:37.20 | goxboxlive | I am using ssh to much i think |
| 22:37.30 | goxboxlive | better use viwa wifi that usb i guess |
| 22:37.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you use your universal too much :) |
| 22:38.22 | cr2 | the device is probbaly supposed to be in suspend state most of the time. |
| 22:38.33 | goxboxlive | No, that's the problem. I use it only at home connected to usb. I never decharge it, so i guess thats why one of them are broken. |
| 22:38.38 | cr2 | not playing mp4 while routing from wifi to umts :) |
| 22:38.50 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:38.54 | goxboxlive | The other one i strange, it shoes 0% even though it is fully charged |
| 22:39.10 | cr2 | goxboxlive: dump the eeprom. |
| 22:39.16 | goxboxlive | how? |
| 22:39.18 | BabelO | goxboxlive: did you try hard reset ? |
| 22:39.28 | goxboxlive | BabelO, oh yes, amny times |
| 22:39.29 | cr2 | ask bd2. i don't knopw if it's implemented. |
| 22:39.35 | BabelO | ok :( |
| 22:39.57 | goxboxlive | bd2 are you around? |
| 22:41.27 | goxboxlive | BabelO, i have even reflased the Universal, didnt help, so i guess there are something that is broken inside the battery. But it'sonly a few months since i bought it so i send it back |
| 22:42.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the eeprom is in the battery. |
| 22:42.53 | goxboxlive | cr2: i know |
| 22:42.53 | goxboxlive | there are 4 pins |
| 22:42.59 | goxboxlive | two fo the are big, so i guess that must be them |
| 22:43.26 | cr2 | the old ipaqs had the eeprom data in /proc |
| 22:43.41 | cr2 | visible |
| 22:44.51 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:46.04 | goxboxlive | ~change NOK 287 to euro |
| 22:46.21 | goxboxlive | ~change 287 NOK to euro |
| 22:46.46 | goxboxlive | ~change 287 NKR to euro |
| 22:46.54 | goxboxlive | stupid apt |
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| 22:49.06 | goxboxlive | ~apt change NOK 287 to euro |
| 22:49.24 | BabelO | ljp: welcome back ;) |
| 22:50.09 | ljp | thanks |
| 22:50.16 | BabelO | :) |
| 22:51.39 | BabelO | ljp: why QSplitter are removed from qtopia ? |
| 22:59.59 | goxboxlive | BabelO, send me the files before you go to bed. I up early tomorrow (probably 6.00) so i haveto have something to play with while one of my child watch cartoons. |
| 23:00.03 | goxboxlive | good night |
| 23:01.25 | ljp | because someone deemed it unnecessary |
| 23:02.05 | ljp | not sure if qtopia would compile with it enabled. |
| 23:02.20 | BabelO | ljp: ok, because we are cross compiling some gps tools that need removed thing |
| 23:02.34 | BabelO | we can try |
| 23:02.55 | ljp | let meknow how it goes :) |
| 23:03.08 | BabelO | else maybe can we replace QSplitter with some QLayout |
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