| 00:05.43 | Kevin2 | cr2: Still here? What is the problem you're having with init? Do you have initrd enabled in your kernel config? |
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| 08:29.15 | Foxdie | morning |
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| 09:06.17 | goxboxlive | hi |
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| 09:11.05 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Check gmail |
| 09:11.59 | BabelO | goxboxlive : hi, i ve notification of incoming mail on my windows desktop ;) |
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| 09:13.18 | goxboxlive | :-) good, me too |
| 09:13.57 | BabelO | yes cr2 already see it few days ago ;) |
| 09:14.16 | goxboxlive | Have you joned it? |
| 09:14.23 | BabelO | goxboxlive : did you test all USB gadget on Universal ? |
| 09:14.27 | goxboxlive | I think you and tsdogs should |
| 09:14.37 | goxboxlive | babelO: No i havent |
| 09:15.34 | goxboxlive | I hate winxp. "you have to restart your computer. Otherwise we will in 5 min" |
| 09:15.38 | BabelO | there is some gadget like midi sound card |
| 09:16.12 | BabelO | goxboxlive : i have XP too , but i m testing my code into a virtual machine :) |
| 09:16.52 | BabelO | i play a litle with kismet yesturday evening, it works with acx100 |
| 09:17.00 | goxboxlive | good |
| 09:17.11 | goxboxlive | is acx stable on BA? |
| 09:17.25 | goxboxlive | or does it disconnect when you load it heavely? |
| 09:20.30 | goxboxlive | I have domne something stupid i guss. I have extracted the qtopia-4.2.2 to my Opie source. |
| 09:20.37 | goxboxlive | I think it will break though. |
| 09:20.38 | BabelO | goxboxlive : it seem to work well, i play with it all the evening and connected over ssh downloading ipkg |
| 09:20.54 | goxboxlive | ok on universal it is unstable |
| 09:21.20 | goxboxlive | works ok with ssh, but when i do ipkg or websurfing it failes |
| 09:24.01 | BabelO | goxboxlive : with ipkg it is ok and web too, but with mini web browser, i have some trouble, it segfault alone :( |
| 09:24.13 | BabelO | when i enter a new website |
| 09:28.13 | BabelO | goxboxlive: so you have a fresh qtopia 4.2.2 source tree |
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| 09:33.52 | goxboxlive | babelO: I also have that yes |
| 09:34.25 | goxboxlive | But it failes when i have merged it with opie cvs |
| 09:42.32 | goxboxlive | hmm i am back in bussinies |
| 09:42.41 | goxboxlive | or however it writes |
| 09:52.18 | BabelO | goxboxlive : write on first line in a word document without spaces this : |
| 09:52.26 | BabelO | =rand(100,1) |
| 09:52.41 | BabelO | Microsoft keep their test... beurk ! |
| 09:53.27 | BabelO | it is specially for tsdogs :) |
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| 10:08.49 | goxboxlive | cr2: There? |
| 10:08.54 | goxboxlive | or here or whatever? |
| 10:09.27 | goxboxlive | BabelO: I thnk also you should register htcphone at the contest. |
| 10:10.03 | BabelO | it is before june 29 |
| 10:13.56 | BabelO | really short |
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| 10:36.01 | goxboxlive | so what you have dome a lot allready. |
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| 10:57.13 | Kevin2 | Hi pH5. |
| 10:58.04 | pH5 | hi Kevin2 |
| 10:58.58 | Kevin2 | Are you planning on doing any further work on a generic htc cpld driver? If not, I may try this weekend. |
| 11:02.56 | pH5 | Kevin2: yes I was planning that, but I'm a bit slow, currently. I also won't find any time this weekend, so go ahead as you like. |
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| 12:20.13 | TBBle | Beh |
| 12:20.15 | TBBle | Oops |
| 12:22.39 | sadeness | beb pop a lula :D |
| 12:56.23 | mndctrl | hi guys ;) what is the word on the street regarding the shift and linux? |
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| 16:42.26 | goxboxlive | hi |
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| 16:52.18 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: How is it going with zroadmap? |
| 16:52.59 | tsdogs | have managed to have menus and buttons working with QT4 (and hope will work with Qtopia too) |
| 16:53.18 | goxboxlive | cool |
| 16:53.29 | goxboxlive | Have you signed in for the contest? |
| 16:53.43 | tsdogs | nope. which one ? |
| 16:54.26 | goxboxlive | the one i mailed you about today |
| 16:54.29 | tsdogs | Need to port the dialog. |
| 16:54.53 | goxboxlive | I think you shpuld join |
| 16:54.59 | tsdogs | Also was thinking about restructuring the layout more like others do |
| 16:55.12 | goxboxlive | BabelO also for adding htcphone and gnuphone |
| 16:55.56 | tsdogs | ok, but where to sign in, which contest? |
| 16:57.15 | goxboxlive | check your mail. i sent you one earlier today |
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| 16:57.51 | tsdogs | ok |
| 17:00.00 | goxboxlive | http://trolltech.com/developer/tt/gpdevchallenge |
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| 17:02.24 | tsdogs | I think I should sign in for this one, right? Best improvement/rework of one of the Qtopia applications |
| 17:07.36 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: what do I put as Company/Affiliation Xanadux? |
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| 17:11.13 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: i am not in the contest. I havent done anything ith htcphone. That's babelO's work. |
| 17:11.22 | goxboxlive | Yes set Xanadux, that's cool |
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| 17:12.16 | tsdogs | ok joined, let's see if accepted |
| 17:12.38 | goxboxlive | good |
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| 17:28.22 | cr2 | goxboxlive: "Best open source application" for the opie2 phone is fun (and pun). |
| 17:30.05 | cr2 | i have read the rules in detail, and it's unlikely that roadmap fits there. unfortunately. |
| 17:31.17 | cr2 | f) By submitting your application to this site, you represent that you have the full rights to upload your content and that uploading your content to this site will not violate or infringe the rights of any third person, including but not limited to, rights in copyrights, patents, trademarks, trade secrets or other proprietary rights. |
| 17:31.32 | cr2 | this is an incredibly stupid requirement. |
| 17:33.55 | tsdogs | yes, I think so. |
| 17:35.38 | cr2 | tsdogs: i guess they actually have different intent, but let's see :) |
| 17:35.51 | tsdogs | :) |
| 17:37.32 | cr2 | imho, the phone program and a qt4 route planner are the most important and valueable programs. |
| 17:38.11 | cr2 | so we need to work in this direction anyway, and many things are already done. |
| 17:38.28 | tsdogs | I agree, pda stuff is less important. |
| 17:39.05 | cr2 | are the pdas still in production ? |
| 17:39.32 | tsdogs | :) cr2: I have this 3 lines of code which seem to make roadmap go crazy... |
| 17:39.33 | tsdogs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.33 | tsdogs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.33 | tsdogs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.45 | tsdogs | it does a fork before. |
| 17:40.19 | cr2 | what is name/argv ? |
| 17:40.32 | tsdogs | looking for flite |
| 17:40.41 | cr2 | i think ERROR is a messagebox() ? |
| 17:40.45 | tsdogs | argv no idea. let me check |
| 17:41.31 | cr2 | it was writing to the stderr before, but i'm not sure about the latest versions. |
| 17:41.50 | tsdogs | it's trying to run flite with -t "MESSAGE" |
| 17:42.05 | cr2 | the roadmap_log() segfaults sometimes on the null pointers. |
| 17:42.31 | cr2 | well, link flite to /bin/true |
| 17:42.37 | tsdogs | ok |
| 17:42.49 | cr2 | let's clean the gui first. |
| 17:42.52 | tsdogs | but is there a way to not make if fail if flite is not installed? |
| 17:43.13 | tsdogs | If I click on the map, it goes crazy that was why debugging. |
| 17:43.25 | tsdogs | ok |
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| 17:44.24 | cr2 | run some test to check if flite is there. |
| 17:44.34 | cr2 | but i think it's a different issue. |
| 17:44.41 | tsdogs | of course not, haven't installed it yet |
| 17:45.06 | cr2 | i think it's some NULL pointer bug in roadmap_log() |
| 17:45.44 | cr2 | i've actually never run roadmap with flite :) |
| 17:46.03 | tsdogs | could be the exact output is this though... http://www.pastebin.ca/505650 |
| 17:46.28 | tsdogs | s/be/be./ |
| 17:47.01 | cr2 | ok, if the ROADMAP_ERROR a messagebox() ? |
| 17:47.22 | cr2 | i think it is on wince. |
| 17:47.25 | tsdogs | it is. |
| 17:47.42 | cr2 | ok, then something is buggy there. |
| 17:47.54 | tsdogs | yes, I'll try finding this out. |
| 17:48.03 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:48.13 | cr2 | compare it to gtk2 |
| 17:49.29 | cr2 | it sends some events to a nonexistant window it seems. |
| 17:50.43 | cr2 | the missing flite can't be an ERROR source, it's something else. |
| 17:56.15 | tsdogs | ok, it is roadmap_log ... maybe some qt issue. |
| 17:56.37 | cr2 | tsdogs: is it possible to do something like getline() on a string with unknown length in qt ? |
| 17:57.18 | tsdogs | cr2: no idea, but I think so. you mean to the end of the line ? |
| 17:57.30 | cr2 | i dislike libstdc++, and would like to do it either in C or qt. |
| 17:57.47 | cr2 | yes, read in the line to an end, and then do split() |
| 17:58.03 | tsdogs | cr2: I'm not a Qt developer :) |
| 17:58.05 | cr2 | i do it in awk right now, very comfortable. |
| 17:58.08 | cr2 | :) |
| 17:59.10 | cr2 | we will need it to convert the vector maps into roadmap format. |
| 17:59.43 | cr2 | hm. some basic preprocessing with awk may be an option. |
| 17:59.44 | tsdogs | http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/qiodevice.html#readLine |
| 18:00.15 | cr2 | i just don't want to do everything in awk, it's inefficient and not really designed as c/c++ replacement. |
| 18:00.31 | cr2 | yes, qint64 maxSize |
| 18:00.39 | cr2 | that's what i dislike. |
| 18:00.48 | tsdogs | ho. ok |
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| 18:01.03 | cr2 | because i don't know the length. |
| 18:01.08 | goxboxlive | tsdog: Where is your patch for itemcontrol. (i am at work so i dont have the link)¨ |
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| 18:03.10 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/opieII/ |
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| 18:06.53 | BabelO | hi |
| 18:07.36 | tsdogs | cr2: I think that maxSize = 0 means no dimension... http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/qtextstream.html#readLine |
| 18:08.27 | cr2 | BabelO: you should submit the opie2 phone app to the greenphone contest :) |
| 18:08.37 | cr2 | tsdogs: good point, i'll try. |
| 18:08.38 | tsdogs | hi BabelO |
| 18:09.55 | cr2 | BabelO: i think you fit even into their obscure requirements, but it's extremely politically incorrect at the same time :) |
| 18:10.09 | BabelO | cr2: you think ? not really interesting, because i take lot of file from standard qtopia that are activated only if using phone binary |
| 18:11.04 | cr2 | BabelO: it's a perfect "original opie program enhancement". don't you think ? |
| 18:11.15 | cr2 | s/opie/qtopia/ |
| 18:11.31 | BabelO | with an external modified library too, not so original ;) |
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| 18:12.30 | cr2 | it's for the phase 2, to replace gnokii with a real htc at command parser library. like RIL. |
| 18:12.54 | BabelO | we can try but i don't now if june 29, it will be terminated :( |
| 18:15.28 | BabelO | cr2: can you explain me something about generic kernel module for WPA and WPA-PSK ? how can we use it ? |
| 18:15.59 | cr2 | it's only the application. |
| 18:16.02 | cr2 | e) At the final application submission by September 17, 2007, the developer must make a final designation whether the application submitted is licensed as open source or commercial software |
| 18:16.34 | cr2 | don't know about WPA, sorry. |
| 18:16.41 | BabelO | tsdogs: can you remember which SoftMenuBar cause issue ? |
| 18:17.03 | tsdogs | ho gosh, I think it was the last one. |
| 18:17.16 | BabelO | with "Call" ? |
| 18:17.25 | tsdogs | I have backlogs wait |
| 18:19.00 | tsdogs | QMenu *menu = QSoftMenuBar::menuFor( display ); |
| 18:19.04 | BabelO | cr2: WEP is really unsecure :( lot of WPA too |
| 18:20.55 | BabelO | tsdogs: thx |
| 18:20.55 | tsdogs | BabelO: display was not inittialized |
| 18:20.56 | BabelO | ok |
| 18:21.15 | BabelO | yes i remember why now |
| 18:22.37 | cr2 | BabelO: if you want security don't use wifi, or do it properly. ssh tunnel or vpn. |
| 18:23.32 | cr2 | is it done in software or hardware on acx100 ? |
| 18:23.35 | BabelO | cr2: yes, i test today with BA, and can connect to lot of AP at my work :) |
| 18:23.52 | BabelO | cr2: don't know, never look in it |
| 18:24.48 | cr2 | i suspect it has something to do with the hardware. then it will be tough. |
| 18:26.51 | BabelO | did you see htcblueangel_static_defconfig ? |
| 18:26.53 | BabelO | i think i have doing something wrong with flash in module |
| 18:27.16 | cr2 | it's not really written the way it should anyway. |
| 18:27.35 | BabelO | i set same modules as for magician :( |
| 18:27.57 | cr2 | do you separate the bootloader (first 256K) |
| 18:28.16 | BabelO | same thing as magician |
| 18:28.24 | cr2 | that's the only place where you can brick the device. |
| 18:28.39 | cr2 | if you'll write to the first 4 64K segs. |
| 18:28.54 | cr2 | everything else is relatively harmless. |
| 18:29.45 | BabelO | ok |
| 18:30.55 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Lats time i checked wpa_supplicant didnt support acx |
| 18:31.07 | goxboxlive | i guess it still doesnt do that |
| 18:31.45 | BabelO | another thing wrong on ba is acx module, when i unmodprobe acx.... acx continue to drive lot of power around 250mA |
| 18:32.59 | goxboxlive | well time to go home. bbl. |
| 18:39.11 | cr2 | BabelO: even when the power gpios are disabled ? |
| 18:39.54 | BabelO | it is a test i need to do, add a trace do gpio power down |
| 18:40.36 | BabelO | code seem to be like other devices |
| 18:41.47 | BabelO | it is already here ;) |
| 18:49.00 | tsdogs | bbl |
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| 19:00.52 | goxboxlive | why is htcuniversal_phone compiled as a module in when using htcuniversal_static_defconfig? |
| 19:02.13 | goxboxlive | usbcore is also missing |
| 19:02.57 | goxboxlive | ochi-hcd is missing |
| 19:03.02 | goxboxlive | usb_serial |
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| 19:15.52 | akke | i have a hw6915 .. Just wondering if the linux port would be usable on this phone? |
| 19:18.13 | goxboxlive | akke: If it has code name htc sable the it is support for it in the hh.org kernel tree |
| 19:19.37 | akke | hh.org kernel tree? .. hh.org seems like a dating engine.. |
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| 19:23.45 | cr2 | lol. |
| 19:24.00 | cr2 | handhelds.org |
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| 19:24.51 | akke | ok :) lol |
| 19:25.20 | cr2 | but we shorten it to hh.org |
| 19:25.22 | akke | hmm.. any idea how usable it is on the hw6915? |
| 19:25.32 | cr2 | i have hw6915, but did not check it for a long time. |
| 19:25.46 | cr2 | even wifi was working some time ago. |
| 19:26.23 | cr2 | the phone protocol is cracked, but there is no line discipline driver like for TI. |
| 19:26.50 | akke | so it's not possible to use GPRS/EDGE or make a phone call? |
| 19:26.50 | akke | (not yet) |
| 19:26.51 | cr2 | the 240x240 screen may be a problem for some not very bright apps. |
| 19:27.12 | goxboxlive | :-) dating machine |
| 19:27.18 | cr2 | no, but it's bearable. like in "we have the documentation" |
| 19:27.56 | cr2 | The Happy Hearts Organization. Meet Like-Minded Singles |
| 19:28.05 | akke | lol ;) |
| 19:28.09 | cr2 | isn't it about linux on the phones ? |
| 19:29.01 | akke | it probably is.. ;-) |
| 19:31.46 | cr2 | akke: report all the bugs here. all the data is available, and i can check it too. |
| 19:31.48 | cr2 | hehe. |
| 19:38.07 | cr2 | sable kernel compiles, but some tweaks will be certainly needed. for phone audio support like on the universal, and maybe some others. |
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| 19:45.26 | Sti_0239 | hi there |
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| 20:15.50 | BabelO | cr2: ok i nerver see printk from acx module :( |
| 20:16.22 | BabelO | why ? |
| 20:16.44 | BabelO | maybe strucutre is a little different i ll check |
| 20:18.47 | BabelO | psokolovsky: are you around ? |
| 20:19.08 | cr2 | BabelO: which printk ? |
| 20:19.30 | BabelO | cr2: printk in htcblueangel_acx.c function stop_hw |
| 20:20.31 | BabelO | that's why chipset is always powered on :( |
| 20:28.16 | BabelO | goxboxlive: can you check acx is really powered down on universal ? |
| 20:28.34 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Not now |
| 20:28.41 | BabelO | ok |
| 20:30.21 | goxboxlive | i dont think it is, because we are not able to remove htcuniversal_acx |
| 20:30.21 | goxboxlive | it freezes the system |
| 20:30.21 | goxboxlive | we are just able to unload acx |
| 20:30.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive: only remove acx module not htcuniversal_acx |
| 20:31.10 | goxboxlive | how do i chack if it is powered down? |
| 20:31.35 | cr2 | goxboxlive: add the printk. |
| 20:31.35 | BabelO | before powered it up, check current_now in /sys/class/battery/main-battery |
| 20:32.07 | BabelO | currrent is around 250 mA |
| 20:32.26 | goxboxlive | ok, i cant do that. My bettery is broken, i get some realy strange values. like mnius (-) in front of the number |
| 20:32.39 | goxboxlive | s/bettery/battery/ |
| 20:33.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is normal minus |
| 20:33.19 | goxboxlive | realy, ok hold on i boot it up |
| 20:33.26 | BabelO | current is outgoing from battery ;) |
| 20:33.39 | goxboxlive | while charging? |
| 20:34.10 | BabelO | it is not chargin if there is minus |
| 20:34.25 | goxboxlive | right, like i said, my battery or something is broken |
| 20:34.51 | BabelO | you charge over usb, or power cable ? |
| 20:35.05 | goxboxlive | booting |
| 20:35.08 | goxboxlive | both |
| 20:35.32 | goxboxlive | it's going crazy here. Wince reports 0% left of my battery |
| 20:35.45 | goxboxlive | i'm booting |
| 20:36.13 | BabelO | ok |
| 20:37.10 | goxboxlive | guide me, i am at the prompt now |
| 20:37.54 | goxboxlive | current_now "0" |
| 20:38.19 | BabelO | ok then cat /sys/class/battery/main-battery/current_now |
| 20:38.19 | BabelO | to have reference value |
| 20:38.21 | goxboxlive | i did |
| 20:38.27 | goxboxlive | it gave me zero |
| 20:38.29 | goxboxlive | 0 |
| 20:39.13 | BabelO | :( and uyou have no printk in wlan_stop function... |
| 20:39.20 | BabelO | we can'ty do the test |
| 20:39.40 | BabelO | goxboxlive: all your battery driver are modprobed ? |
| 20:40.25 | goxboxlive | ohh i booted a old zImage |
| 20:40.42 | goxboxlive | i have to compile a new one. |
| 20:41.03 | BabelO | else i m waiting for psokolovsky or tsdogs |
| 20:41.09 | cr2 | goxboxlive: add the printk, since you are recompiling anyway. |
| 20:41.14 | BabelO | thx |
| 20:41.38 | tsdogs | BabelO: here- |
| 20:42.20 | BabelO | tsdogs: wait i ll make a last test before |
| 20:42.26 | tsdogs | ok |
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| 20:43.40 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: Do you check for babelo? |
| 20:44.01 | tsdogs | ? |
| 20:44.28 | goxboxlive | check the current flow with and without acx loaded |
| 20:44.36 | tsdogs | ok |
| 20:44.44 | goxboxlive | actually unloaded, loaded and unloaded again |
| 20:44.46 | goxboxlive | goo thx |
| 20:45.19 | goxboxlive | whats this? qtopia-core-opensource-src-4.3.0rc1 |
| 20:45.43 | goxboxlive | so next release is on it's way |
| 20:47.10 | tsdogs | let's see how many api changes will be there :) |
| 20:47.49 | goxboxlive | http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/unix/lib/qt/source/ |
| 20:47.57 | BabelO | cr2: i see trace in mem.c, i see line where stop_èhw is called... |
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| 20:55.49 | BabelO | cr2: ok itis normal, stop_hw can't be called because of a test |
| 20:56.32 | tsdogs | BabelO: http://www.pastebin.ca/506106 |
| 20:57.36 | BabelO | tsdogs: you never modprobe acx before ? |
| 20:57.45 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.12 | BabelO | oh your are connected to power |
| 20:58.16 | BabelO | it is charging |
| 20:58.39 | BabelO | can t be a good test |
| 20:58.44 | ellisway | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.50 | ellisway | all |
| 20:59.06 | BabelO | hello ;) |
| 20:59.49 | tsdogs | no |
| 21:00.08 | tsdogs | should I try disconnected? |
| 21:00.39 | BabelO | yes if you can, current will be negative |
| 21:00.46 | tsdogs | ok rebooting |
| 21:00.48 | cr2 | BabelO: 340mA is not much. |
| 21:00.57 | cr2 | i#ve seen 850mA |
| 21:01.25 | Foxdie | hi guys, whats cooking? |
| 21:01.43 | BabelO | cr2: i have 340mA when acx on and can downto 15mA or better 5mA if i shutdown all maually |
| 21:02.25 | cr2 | BabelO: you have a different device. |
| 21:02.30 | BabelO | or maybe ds1wm measure are bad, it could be possible too |
| 21:02.51 | BabelO | cr2: yes and you have a better battery too :) |
| 21:04.25 | BabelO | i think i understand i measure a current but usb port drive 100mA |
| 21:04.56 | BabelO | either stop_hw can't be called |
| 21:07.26 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Could i get access to your ftp server? I need a file name atomicbase.h in helix source |
| 21:07.26 | BabelO | yes, wait i start it |
| 21:07.40 | Foxdie | anyone have any modules for things like usb hubs, keyboards, etc? |
| 21:07.40 | BabelO | started |
| 21:07.46 | goxboxlive | good |
| 21:08.17 | Foxdie | I made usb mini-A to B cable and tried to connect a powered hub, it didn't recognise it at all, but it did detect power on usb port |
| 21:08.25 | BabelO | yesss now function is called |
| 21:08.42 | BabelO | cr2: i move stop_hw to acx_e_remove :) |
| 21:09.09 | BabelO | they say in e_cleanup function that's not good ;) |
| 21:09.31 | BabelO | now current is ok |
| 21:09.43 | tsdogs | BabelO: initial acxload acxunload |
| 21:09.43 | tsdogs | charge_now: 1495250 1465500 1457250 |
| 21:09.43 | tsdogs | current_now: -481875 -460000 -493750 |
| 21:09.43 | tsdogs | voltage_now: 4035760 4011360 3991840 |
| 21:10.13 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes i think it is a bug in acx release |
| 21:10.17 | tsdogs | was hard a lot of acx debugging |
| 21:10.22 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:10.28 | BabelO | now it is ok for me |
| 21:10.33 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Isent your build driectory there? |
| 21:11.30 | BabelO | go to trunk and you are in correct directory |
| 21:12.04 | goxboxlive | thx got it |
| 21:13.30 | BabelO | hmm i ve latest rmoravcik patch for acx... maybe that |
| 21:14.10 | cr2 | BabelO: the driver that can't be removed is a bug ;) |
| 21:15.31 | BabelO | cr2: yes, i know that, but current is another bug then :) |
| 21:21.21 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: have you ever builded OPie2 with helix? |
| 21:21.33 | tsdogs | nope. |
| 21:21.56 | goxboxlive | pastebin.ca/506110 |
| 21:23.00 | goxboxlive | i just dont get it. I have copied the content of the helix src folder to my opie source. And when configueing it says that atomic... is OK/present |
| 21:23.05 | goxboxlive | but still i get this |
| 21:23.32 | tsdogs | seems that helix is not finding ATOMIC OPERATORS... |
| 21:23.52 | tsdogs | I think you shoudl #define HELIX_CONFIG_DISABLE_ATOMIC_OPERATORS |
| 21:24.53 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: Thats what i have been doing. But maybe thats why i haveent had helix working |
| 21:25.27 | tsdogs | I have no idea, it says: #error "You need to create atomic dec/inc opers for your platform |
| 21:25.32 | goxboxlive | So i thought that maybe i should try to fix it now, and maybe helix will work |
| 21:26.14 | tsdogs | configuration told you that they exsist? |
| 21:28.06 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 21:28.53 | tsdogs | How did you configure helix? |
| 21:29.56 | goxboxlive | i didnt |
| 21:30.29 | goxboxlive | isent opie2 doing that? |
| 21:30.36 | tsdogs | not sure about it, did you follow the instructions BabelO gave you? |
| 21:31.12 | BabelO | i think i do something for helix, because it gave me an error when i compile it |
| 21:31.29 | BabelO | , but i do that it the night, and don't remember about this error |
| 21:31.52 | goxboxlive | so you compiled helix separated and the comiled opie2? |
| 21:33.23 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no, sure not. it fail on building opie |
| 21:33.40 | BabelO | what is exactly error message ? |
| 21:34.19 | goxboxlive | as my pastebin showwd |
| 21:34.19 | goxboxlive | pastebin.ca/506110 |
| 21:41.17 | BabelO | i remember something about this |
| 21:41.42 | BabelO | i do a bad hack, i add a endif somewhere, i ll check |
| 21:43.46 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 21:46.17 | BabelO | cr2: a nice command line to find all file modified 'May 8' ?:) |
| 21:50.22 | cr2 | man find |
| 21:50.32 | BabelO | :) |
| 21:50.33 | cr2 | -mtime |
| 21:50.38 | cr2 | or something like that |
| 21:50.44 | BabelO | ok |
| 21:50.56 | cr2 | don't remember the time format. |
| 21:50.57 | BabelO | thx |
| 21:51.37 | cr2 | or -newer |
| 21:52.25 | cr2 | tsdogs: how do i convert QString to utf8 char * ? |
| 21:52.39 | tsdogs | coming ... |
| 21:52.41 | cr2 | the changes from qt3 to qt4 are big ;) |
| 21:53.18 | cr2 | the bizarre mixed-case headers. |
| 21:53.21 | tsdogs | QString::toUtf8(name) |
| 21:53.47 | cr2 | QByteArray toUtf8 () const |
| 21:54.01 | cr2 | is it really char * ? |
| 21:54.08 | cr2 | the g++ does not like it. |
| 21:54.17 | cr2 | warning: cannot pass objects of non-POD type ‘class QByteArray’ through ‘...’; call will abort at runtime |
| 21:54.39 | tsdogs | ok, you need .c_str() or something like that |
| 21:55.34 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:55.54 | tsdogs | you can also cast |
| 21:57.42 | tsdogs | Similarily, you can pass a QString to a function that takes a const char * argument using the qPrintable() macro which returns the given QString as a const char *. This is equivalent to calling <QString>.toAscii().constData(). |
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| 21:59.06 | tsdogs | cr2: don't think this is exactly what you want :( |
| 21:59.35 | cr2 | i want to use printf() :) |
| 22:00.00 | tsdogs | simply do printf("%s", your_string); |
| 22:00.05 | cr2 | i hate c++ somewhere deep in my heart :) |
| 22:00.13 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:00.30 | tsdogs | it should cast automagically |
| 22:00.56 | cr2 | hm. #include <stdio.h> |
| 22:01.00 | tsdogs | dunno about utf8 though |
| 22:01.46 | cr2 | utf8 is char * |
| 22:02.00 | cr2 | that's why it is used. |
| 22:02.42 | BabelO | cr2: qstrdup |
| 22:03.14 | BabelO | char *toto = qstrdup( QString(....) ); |
| 22:04.23 | cr2 | QString provides the following four functions that return a const char * ... |
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| 22:04.50 | BabelO | cr2: it is qstrdup to return a char * from a QString |
| 22:05.29 | cr2 | qt <4 was much more unix-friendly ;) |
| 22:07.29 | cr2 | BabelO: i just don't like that the docs are misleading. |
| 22:08.07 | cr2 | the proto is QByteArray, but in the text it's written char * |
| 22:09.08 | cr2 | which really makes sense. if one'd like to convert from QString to utf8, the most likely reason is to use it as char *. |
| 22:09.25 | tsdogs | I'm having troubles getting list entrys |
| 22:09.37 | tsdogs | QList<Entry> |
| 22:09.40 | cr2 | but the OO approach defeated it. |
| 22:09.48 | cr2 | yes, i had this problem too ;) |
| 22:09.57 | cr2 | it's done differently now. |
| 22:10.06 | tsdogs | it was an Array before |
| 22:10.21 | cr2 | yes, it's more c++ now. |
| 22:10.48 | tsdogs | ok, but I never can get the pointer to the Entry (which is an object) |
| 22:10.49 | cr2 | it looks like the qt4 was rewritten by some c++ purists. |
| 22:11.06 | tsdogs | cr2: how did you solve it? |
| 22:11.16 | cr2 | i failed to solve it. |
| 22:11.24 | tsdogs | :( |
| 22:11.25 | cr2 | googled for examples |
| 22:11.48 | cr2 | and found some, but it meant a major rewrite. |
| 22:12.35 | cr2 | c++ java-obsessed purists ;) |
| 22:12.45 | BabelO | cr2: all char manipulating are old in QT it is QCString base class in ocumentatiopn |
| 22:13.35 | tsdogs | :( - From Qtopia docs: Java-Style Iterators |
| 22:13.45 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 22:14.08 | cr2 | BabelO: the compilation fails in many places i 've taken for given before. |
| 22:14.37 | cr2 | i find c++ acceptable only because of inline C. and C because of inline assembler :) |
| 22:15.04 | cr2 | java and mono and whatever can go to hell! |
| 22:15.12 | cr2 | i'm old-school :) |
| 22:15.31 | cr2 | i can even program fortran. but find it too OO-oriented :) |
| 22:15.45 | BabelO | cr2: i know that i have some old coworker that say same thing ;) |
| 22:16.25 | BabelO | but when you do some code in assembler or C , you can optimize yourself it |
| 22:17.06 | cr2 | that's the only way to unleash the raw computing power. otherwise you get a sandboxed VisualBasic ;-) |
| 22:17.25 | cr2 | with monkey-programmers. |
| 22:17.35 | cr2 | as an addon. |
| 22:19.07 | BabelO | cr2: yes, best difference i get is from motorola or Microchip micro controler at schoolwith an assembler program and same with C, and looking at difference |
| 22:22.39 | cr2 | it's really beyond my understanding why some fucking java interator is better than an array, which is a really fundamental concept as simple as ldr r0, [r1] |
| 22:23.00 | cr2 | s/interator/iterator/ |
| 22:23.24 | BabelO | :) |
| 22:23.53 | cr2 | and malloc() |
| 22:24.06 | cr2 | they will take it from my cold dead fingers :) |
| 22:24.29 | cr2 | that was the first thing i hated in fortran. |
| 22:26.00 | tsdogs | ok, help me clear this out. An Object it's a pointer, right so if I do Object *obj I have a pointer to a pointer? |
| 22:26.17 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:26.51 | tsdogs | so writing some function that returns Objecy * is not needed |
| 22:27.28 | tsdogs | I can simply return Object and I still get the same object. |
| 22:27.33 | tsdogs | ? |
| 22:28.23 | BabelO | it is to protect code from disassembler guys ;) |
| 22:28.31 | tsdogs | :) ok |
| 22:28.35 | tsdogs | thx |
| 22:29.52 | cr2 | BabelO: gcc -Waggregate-return :) |
| 22:30.47 | BabelO | ;) |
| 22:31.12 | BabelO | What code are you porting cr2 today ? |
| 22:31.49 | cr2 | i want to write a vector map format parser. |
| 22:32.07 | cr2 | to avoid using awk. |
| 22:32.34 | cr2 | because it became too big and uncomfortable. |
| 22:33.21 | cr2 | then roadmap will be able to use a new huge class of available maps. |
| 22:34.05 | BabelO | we have AWK at work for our application ;), now all our new application have a JScript parser instead of AWK |
| 22:34.21 | cr2 | right now it's a real PITA to create maps for roadmap. unless you use tiger. which is not an option for anybody outside the US. |
| 22:34.54 | cr2 | and tiger does not have oneway and turn restrinction data. |
| 22:35.17 | cr2 | awk is great for quick and dirty hacks. |
| 22:36.16 | BabelO | cr2: yes agree, we some some same thing in JScript too, but other thing disappear, like string format :( |
| 22:39.43 | BabelO | in AWK : A ="1"; B=1; A = A * 1; A+B=?, in JScript A="1"; B=1; A = A*1; A+B=? |
| 22:39.46 | BabelO | big test ;) |
| 22:41.01 | cr2 | awk converts numbers into strings first. |
| 22:42.47 | BabelO | yes but JScript do strange thing else you have to specify A= new Number("1"); |
| 22:43.21 | BabelO | i hate all these language :( |
| 22:44.15 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:44.31 | cr2 | BabelO: do i need to call free() after qstrdup ? |
| 22:44.46 | BabelO | no |
| 22:44.52 | cr2 | nice way to leak memory out of nothing. |
| 22:44.58 | cr2 | hm. |
| 22:44.59 | BabelO | yes ;) |
| 22:45.29 | BabelO | i ve this : char *number = qstrdup( LCDNumber->text().toLatin1() ); |
| 22:46.33 | cr2 | ok, but who is doing free(number); |
| 22:48.50 | cr2 | it may be on the stack ;) |
| 22:48.51 | BabelO | http://doc.trolltech.com/3.2/qcstring.html#qstrdup |
| 22:48.51 | BabelO | they say must be deleted ;) true |
| 22:48.52 | cr2 | hehe. 3.2 |
| 22:48.52 | cr2 | this q* is just something from NIH ;) |
| 22:48.53 | BabelO | this class is really usefull |
| 22:49.11 | BabelO | all are standard variable |
| 22:49.56 | cr2 | yes, a reimplementation of ansi c <string.h> |
| 22:50.13 | cr2 | hm. strdup() is not ansi. |
| 22:50.20 | cr2 | and must be free()'d |
| 22:50.28 | BabelO | nice to speak with gnokii |
| 22:50.34 | goxboxlive | www.patebin.co.uk/15130 Doesnt this look OK? |
| 22:50.55 | goxboxlive | www.pastebin.co.uk/15130 |
| 22:51.00 | cr2 | nice way to prevent windows compatibility. use strdup instead of qstrdup. |
| 22:51.02 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i not found my change :( it is to something else |
| 22:51.11 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:51.34 | cr2 | BabelO: why are these perl warnings ? |
| 22:52.01 | cr2 | i doubt they happen on the greenphone. |
| 22:53.02 | BabelO | don't have them too on my computer :( |
| 22:53.45 | BabelO | it is qmake flags |
| 22:54.18 | BabelO | goxboxlive: you have qt4 on your host computer ? |
| 22:54.39 | BabelO | like this /usr/lib/qtx ? |
| 22:55.08 | goxboxlive | yes /usr/lib/qt4 |
| 22:55.51 | cr2 | BabelO: i love c++ |
| 22:55.54 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.54 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.54 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.48 | cr2 | and it works :) |
| 22:57.01 | BabelO | :) 3 lines |
| 22:57.10 | cr2 | well, can be 1 line. |
| 22:57.31 | BabelO | did you try with real utf8 line? |
| 22:57.50 | cr2 | yes. it works. |
| 22:58.01 | cr2 | why should it fail ? |
| 22:58.24 | cr2 | utf8 is a null terminated unsigned char * |
| 22:59.17 | cr2 | only a very overzealous compiler will see a difference between char * and unsigned char * |
| 22:59.21 | cr2 | gcc does not. |
| 22:59.51 | BabelO | i have lot of thing at workthat fail these days, i set all my format to utf16, but IE can't speak utf16 so i convert do windows-1252 default windows format ... and i lose some data |
| 23:00.44 | cr2 | why not utf8 ? |
| 23:01.07 | cr2 | that are really obscure glyphs that are in utf16 and not in utf8. |
| 23:01.47 | cr2 | no linux software is using utf16 actually. |
| 23:02.03 | cr2 | remember this 0xfeff stuff ;) |
| 23:02.18 | BabelO | i va already some input data in utf16, that's why i keep this one |
| 23:02.42 | cr2 | convert it ot utf8 ;) |
| 23:03.54 | BabelO | i do better now, it is to send data to SAP, so i normalize all string using foldstring function from windows API, it separate utf8 with composite |
| 23:06.17 | BabelO | do you think it is a good idea to send my patch to kernel-discuss about stop_hw for ACX ? |
| 23:06.17 | cr2 | yes. |
| 23:06.18 | cr2 | we need to fix the buggy unloadable and unworking drivers |
| 23:06.32 | cr2 | ok. the right way for printf utf8 is |
| 23:06.45 | cr2 | line.toItf8().constData() |
| 23:06.58 | cr2 | s/Itf/Utf/ |
| 23:07.33 | BabelO | yes if you only want to display value ;) not working with pointer |
| 23:08.08 | BabelO | ok, so i need to understand how this mailing list is working ;) |
| 23:08.11 | cr2 | yes, for printf() |
| 23:08.30 | cr2 | why do i need raw utf8 for something else? |
| 23:08.42 | cr2 | all qt functions work with QString anyway. |
| 23:13.19 | BabelO | tsdogs: you have qt4 too ? |
| 23:13.43 | tsdogs | for development I installed them yes. |
| 23:14.17 | cr2 | what i really like about qt is the excellent documentation. |
| 23:14.17 | BabelO | ok , i ve qt3 on mine |
| 23:14.17 | cr2 | i have it in /usr/local/TrollTech/... |
| 23:14.21 | tsdogs | BabelO: I have both. |
| 23:14.39 | tsdogs | I think you can simply install qt4 and qt4-devel rpm with suse |
| 23:14.53 | BabelO | i don't understand goxbox error message :( |
| 23:14.53 | tsdogs | at least that's what i did with fedora |
| 23:15.31 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes but i remove it, because i ve some issue else |
| 23:15.38 | tsdogs | ok |
| 23:16.08 | BabelO | first time i want to compile mythtv or qtopia, it was the first issue |
| 23:16.20 | tsdogs | If you want to develop for BA, you could just install GreenphoneSDK, it's a VmPlayer image, but it is good for development and debugging. |
| 23:16.30 | tsdogs | need a fast enough machine though |
| 23:17.00 | tsdogs | you could try again, maybe they fixed them |
| 23:17.38 | cr2 | tsdogs: but it's a fullblown debian ? |
| 23:18.11 | tsdogs | yes, unstable (obviously, and also qtopia is 4.1.7 (?)) |
| 23:18.20 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes but i ve only 600 Mo left :( |
| 23:18.21 | cr2 | yes. |
| 23:18.38 | tsdogs | BabelO: what happened to the new disk ? :) |
| 23:18.45 | BabelO | tsdogs: next time i buy a harddrive and maybe also a new processor |
| 23:19.01 | BabelO | tsdogs: it is already the new disk ;) |
| 23:19.07 | tsdogs | :) |
| 23:30.35 | tsdogs | ok guys time for bed. good night. |
| 23:30.46 | BabelO | tsdogs: me too, good night |
| 23:31.49 | cr2 | good night. |
| 23:33.10 | tsdogs | cr2: I received e-mail that application was accepted for the challenge. |
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