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| 00:15.01 | tsdogs | night everybody |
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| 07:56.52 | Foxdie | good morning all |
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| 08:59.21 | Foxdie | one thing that bewilders me is microsofts cowboy way of doing things |
| 08:59.26 | Foxdie | in particular the backlight |
| 08:59.54 | Foxdie | HTC linux can set the backlight very low so it uses a lot less battery power than windows mobile's lowest backlight setting that is probably about twice as bright |
| 09:00.23 | Foxdie | It's little reasons like this why I want to ditch windows mobile and move to linux on the universal |
| 09:01.43 | Foxdie | and now I test UTMS, brb :) |
| 09:09.56 | Foxdie | hmm, where can I get minicom for universal... |
| 09:10.35 | Foxdie | in theory, because they're compiled for the arm / xscale cpu, programs compiled for the Zaurus should work with HTC based devices right? |
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| 09:19.26 | padski | hi there |
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| 09:29.22 | Foxdie | hello |
| 09:29.29 | Foxdie | bah, some people have no patience |
| 09:37.56 | Foxdie | cr2 (I know you're asleep right now, you can answer when you awake) are you aware of keyboard problems in console if you terminate opie? keys repeat randomly as if there is no debounce |
| 09:38.51 | Foxdie | for example, if I press the letter J it may put one J, or it may put 3 or 4 or 5 |
| 09:38.51 | Foxdie | it happens on all keys, and the most annoying is delete where you press del twice to delete a mistake and it deletes half the line you're trying to type in |
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| 10:10.39 | tsdogs | hi all |
| 10:10.49 | tsdogs | Foxdie: what version of opie/image you using? |
| 10:11.22 | BabelO | hi |
| 10:23.16 | Foxdie | latest downloaded as per the universals page on handheld.org |
| 10:24.10 | Foxdie | file name Angstrom-opie-image-test-20070407-htcuniversal.rootfs.tar.bz2 was the installer name |
| 10:24.35 | Foxdie | it doesn't happen once opie has started, only in console without X server running |
| 10:24.45 | Foxdie | also to note, when in opie, you can't use fn+shortcuts |
| 10:25.05 | tsdogs | ok, to fix the keyboard you have to change a setting in the /etc/inittab |
| 10:25.06 | Foxdie | so you can't get /\;:?'" etc |
| 10:25.18 | tsdogs | you must disable the tty getty line. |
| 10:25.52 | Foxdie | won't that disable all console access? |
| 10:25.59 | tsdogs | comment out this out: 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 tty3 |
| 10:26.07 | tsdogs | only on terminal 3 |
| 10:26.14 | Foxdie | oh ok |
| 10:26.16 | tsdogs | you still have tty1/tty2/tty4 |
| 10:26.30 | tsdogs | this should fix the keyboard... |
| 10:27.56 | Foxdie | this is fun considering I can't type hash :D |
| 10:28.05 | Foxdie | will have to copy paste another lol |
| 10:28.43 | tsdogs | ain't you using ssh through USB ? |
| 10:28.54 | tsdogs | ssh root@192.168.0.202 should do the trick |
| 10:29.00 | Foxdie | nope |
| 10:29.06 | tsdogs | ho ok. |
| 10:29.19 | Foxdie | I'm not even sure how to get that working |
| 10:30.03 | tsdogs | Foxdie: if you want there is a testing image I made |
| 10:30.05 | tsdogs | http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/opie/ |
| 10:30.43 | tsdogs | you also need to copy the zImage and change haret startup.txt on wince |
| 10:30.59 | Foxdie | are you hosting off your home broadband connection? |
| 10:31.20 | tsdogs | this one has keyboard/buttons and hinge working with new cvs version of opie :) |
| 10:31.32 | tsdogs | so you can test hinge for me too |
| 10:31.59 | Foxdie | is this hosted on your home cable? |
| 10:32.10 | tsdogs | office cable |
| 10:32.36 | Foxdie | would you like some proper hosting on a server in a datacenter in germany that you can scp files to quite easily? |
| 10:33.16 | Foxdie | I pay for 2000GB a month on it and I use no more than 150GB myself, I would donate some to the "cause" if it would assist you |
| 10:33.45 | tsdogs | well, as this ain't public, office is faster to publish for this (LAN). |
| 10:34.18 | Foxdie | cool okay |
| 10:34.37 | Foxdie | offer still stands though, I don't mind providing hosting / mirrors for files for these projects |
| 10:37.54 | Foxdie | I don't mind whats put on there so long as its not highly illegal and doesn't rape my server |
| 10:42.23 | Foxdie | latest version of haret ok? |
| 10:43.27 | tsdogs | yes |
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| 10:47.37 | tsdogs | psokolovsky_: you here? |
| 10:47.49 | psokolovsky_ | yep, hi |
| 10:47.57 | tsdogs | hi |
| 10:49.05 | tsdogs | what patches do you need for defconfigman (against what)? and do I submit them to OE? (I'm pretty new here ) |
| 10:51.18 | Foxdie | booting now |
| 10:52.10 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: all patches you might have, against SVN head. please put them on your web, or drop me to my email. |
| 10:52.26 | tsdogs | ok |
| 10:53.26 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: if http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/htcuniversal.conf is the only thing you have, then ok (but you told about angstrom.conf changes, so if you have them, pls make svn diff, so I didn't forget about them) |
| 10:54.33 | tsdogs | I haven't touched those ones. and the htcuniversal.conf is now updated |
| 10:54.45 | tsdogs | didn't know if allowed to do it myself |
| 10:56.26 | tsdogs | obvioulsy added htcuniversal to makefile |
| 10:58.07 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: the best way in all such cases is to prepare complete patch ;-) |
| 10:59.06 | tsdogs | ok. should I do it then, or you already got it and added? |
| 11:02.46 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: no, I haven't added it yet, hope to do in few hours |
| 11:03.02 | tsdogs | ok, I was doing the diff... |
| 11:03.52 | Foxdie | um tsdogs |
| 11:04.00 | Foxdie | how big a partition does your image need? |
| 11:04.18 | tsdogs | dunno, but should be under 50M |
| 11:04.41 | Foxdie | odd |
| 11:05.00 | Foxdie | it tried to extract to an 80~ mb partition, didn't like it |
| 11:05.07 | Foxdie | got an idea, one sec |
| 11:05.36 | tsdogs | extract it to a temp directory on the PC, and check... |
| 11:05.52 | Foxdie | ahh yes |
| 11:05.56 | Foxdie | tar image is 50mb |
| 11:06.07 | Foxdie | so it needs double that to extract |
| 11:07.10 | Foxdie | I'm gonna cheat |
| 11:07.12 | tsdogs | can't you just do a tar xvfj ? |
| 11:07.16 | Foxdie | yes :D |
| 11:07.23 | Foxdie | that was my cheat |
| 11:07.30 | Foxdie | great minds think alike, or so they say |
| 11:07.39 | tsdogs | :) |
| 11:07.40 | Foxdie | that, or twisted minds |
| 11:08.53 | tsdogs | psokolovsky_: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/defconfigman/htcuniversal.patch |
| 11:09.48 | tsdogs | psokolovsky_: I also added the FONT_8x16=y 'cause otherwise console it's ugly/unreadable on universal |
| 11:11.38 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: nice, thanks. as for font, what's wrong with 8x8? |
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| 11:12.21 | tsdogs | console starts rotated. 640x480 so it's too wide |
| 11:13.07 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: so, universal is 640x480 after all?! |
| 11:13.16 | tsdogs | yep |
| 11:13.37 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: and still, how 8x16 is better? with such font, there's less info fit than on qvga device |
| 11:13.38 | tsdogs | unless you turn the LCD then it becomes a 480x640 |
| 11:14.03 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: I ask about native LCD geometry - so what it is after all? |
| 11:14.41 | tsdogs | I think that native is 480x640 |
| 11:15.31 | psokolovsky_ | then again, what are probes with 8x8? ;-) |
| 11:17.29 | tsdogs | the thing is that as you can rotate the LCD, (and the kernel starts rotated) the font is dificult to read 8x8 |
| 11:17.56 | tsdogs | 8x16 has a better result. I thinkg goxboxlive has done the testing on this one. |
| 11:18.26 | tsdogs | but of course on production it could be removed, as there is the OE splash and also the graphic env |
| 11:18.43 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: how can that be true? I very well tried both fonts on hx4700 - 8x16 is of course nice big font, but complete waste for screen real estate. 8x8 is fully readable and fits much more info on the screen. |
| 11:19.11 | psokolovsky_ | taking into account that most users will use text console only during boot, having more info fit on it is premium. |
| 11:19.25 | psokolovsky_ | exactly |
| 11:19.28 | Foxdie | tsdogs: got your image installed, in console when flipping display I get a nice message: asic3_gpio_get_value(21) |
| 11:19.33 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 11:19.56 | tsdogs | I'll remove it from defconfigman |
| 11:20.04 | Foxdie | let me ask a stupid question, how do I start opie? startx doesn't exist |
| 11:20.39 | tsdogs | ok there should be an opie script under /home/root (as I sayd it's a testing one) |
| 11:20.49 | tsdogs | ./opie |
| 11:21.07 | tsdogs | or you just can /etc/init.d/opie start |
| 11:21.28 | tsdogs | I removed default starting ... for debugging :| |
| 11:21.30 | Foxdie | starting it now |
| 11:21.35 | tsdogs | ok |
| 11:21.41 | Foxdie | will probably have to calibrate |
| 11:21.46 | Foxdie | or maybe not |
| 11:22.00 | tsdogs | have no idea, but I think so. |
| 11:22.04 | Foxdie | okay testing rotation now |
| 11:22.12 | Foxdie | ooh works first time |
| 11:22.18 | tsdogs | :) |
| 11:22.26 | Foxdie | very fast too |
| 11:22.41 | Foxdie | and rotates back perfectly |
| 11:22.47 | tsdogs | perfect. |
| 11:22.59 | tsdogs | thx |
| 11:23.07 | tsdogs | what about the keyboard ? |
| 11:23.13 | ellisway | hi all |
| 11:23.18 | tsdogs | hi ellisway |
| 11:23.25 | Foxdie | no prob, do you mind if I keep your image installed for further testing of other things for gox? |
| 11:23.46 | Foxdie | keyboard works fine |
| 11:23.53 | tsdogs | of course not. :) why such a question ... |
| 11:24.01 | ellisway | if i could be online and playing with linux on my universal atm i would be |
| 11:24.41 | tsdogs | Foxdie: if you want to start opie by default simply do: |
| 11:24.45 | ellisway | but i`m having to use the umts of my phone to get online damn bulldog suspended my dsl |
| 11:24.54 | tsdogs | ln -s /etc/init.d/opie /etc/rc5.d/S99opie |
| 11:25.51 | tsdogs | ellisway: they do it for spam/trojans/viruses here in italy :) |
| 11:26.35 | ellisway | mine was because the bill didn`t get paid till late |
| 11:27.25 | Foxdie | tsdogs: I ask out of politeness and professionalism ;) |
| 11:27.37 | ellisway | then paid the bill then they told me it could be anything upto 5 working days b4 i can make outgoing phone calls and before my dsl is no longer blackholed |
| 11:27.39 | Foxdie | if you guys develop something and need me to test it then delete it, I have no problem with that |
| 11:28.18 | Foxdie | ellisway: how much you paying bulldog and what connection speeds do you get? |
| 11:28.19 | tsdogs | Foxdie: I think that any help here it is apreciated ;) |
| 11:28.53 | Foxdie | :) I will help how I can, I badly want to see universal reach A+ status |
| 11:29.04 | ellisway | paying them 2 much by ar |
| 11:29.08 | Foxdie | then its bye bye windows mobile |
| 11:29.12 | ellisway | speed wise get 600k a sec down |
| 11:29.23 | ellisway | bout 50k/sec up |
| 11:29.25 | Foxdie | kilobits or bytes? |
| 11:29.51 | ellisway | bytes |
| 11:30.06 | Foxdie | hmm, that sounds like 6mbit / 512kbit for how much per month? |
| 11:30.21 | ellisway | no idea |
| 11:30.26 | ellisway | i dont pay the bill |
| 11:30.30 | Foxdie | :) |
| 11:30.57 | ellisway | i`m gonna ring them in a bit say if they dont resume my dsl service then they can have my 30 days notice |
| 11:31.13 | tsdogs | psokolovsky_: ok I updated it: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/defconfigman/htcuniversal.patch |
| 11:31.27 | Foxdie | well as a recommendation, try be24 adsl, 24 quid a month gets you 24mbit / 1.3mbit (2400K/sec and 130K/sec respectively) with a local and caring company feel |
| 11:31.29 | psokolovsky_ | thanks |
| 11:31.34 | ellisway | na |
| 11:31.39 | ellisway | i no be |
| 11:31.48 | Foxdie | oh, had a bad experience with them? |
| 11:32.08 | ellisway | but i`m working on getting a 10mb full duplex link from 1 of the datacentres in docklands |
| 11:32.39 | ellisway | i do part time work for a friend of mine who runs his own isp |
| 11:34.43 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: acx don't want to resume :( |
| 11:34.44 | tsdogs | psokolovsky_: who is responsible for the htcuniversal files in the kernel ? |
| 11:35.09 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: that's kinda known problem |
| 11:35.50 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: what you mean? |
| 11:35.51 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: ok and battery consumption seem to be very high, mn and battery empty |
| 11:35.51 | tsdogs | there is a wrong option in Kconfig under htcuniversal arch which prevents the HTCUNIVERSAL_LCD to be selected in cvs kernel |
| 11:36.02 | tsdogs | what I mean is where should I fill in the bug? |
| 11:36.11 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: didn't cr2 fixed it yesterday? |
| 11:36.44 | tsdogs | hmm, I don't know I checked out kernel yesterday but, seems to be still there. |
| 11:37.06 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: cr2 maintains htc ports, so you could ping either him, or someone else with commit (ph5, bd2, me). |
| 11:37.07 | tsdogs | I'll check, but if cr2 is the person he already nows about it. |
| 11:37.14 | psokolovsky_ | yep |
| 11:37.41 | psokolovsky_ | otherwise, kernel-discuss mailing list is the place to post reports/patches. |
| 11:38.01 | tsdogs | psokolovsky_: ok thx |
| 11:39.02 | BabelO | tsdogs: http://cia.vc/stats/project/handhelds.org/.message/6e813f |
| 11:39.44 | tsdogs | BabelO: great thx. as I sayd I'm new to all this :) |
| 11:40.25 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: another question, is your udc driver working ? |
| 11:40.40 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: yes. which one? ;-) |
| 11:41.09 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: ah, sorry, to many device ;) udc driver at h4000 |
| 11:41.51 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: yes, h4000 now uses common udc-gpio driver, and works well. |
| 11:43.03 | Foxdie | ellisway: testing the small world theory here, your friend wouldn't happen to be called charles would he? |
| 11:43.17 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: thx, i ll check why |
| 11:45.56 | psokolovsky_ | afk |
| 11:50.01 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: it seem it is ok |
| 11:54.10 | Foxdie | tsdogs: one small issue, keyboard arrow keys are opposite to rotation |
| 11:54.18 | Foxdie | but D-pad on screen is fine |
| 11:54.46 | Foxdie | keyboard arrow keys up-down / left-right swap order needs to be reversed |
| 11:58.19 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: do you know how to negociate high current with usb ? |
| 11:58.36 | ellisway | nope |
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| 12:21.09 | Foxdie | tsdogs does your image support connections to WPA wireless networks? |
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| 12:43.35 | tsdogs | Foxdie: for arrows I have to check there is a filter which switches them for the ones on the LCD |
| 12:43.49 | tsdogs | wpa is not supported by acx driver... :( |
| 12:45.02 | Foxdie | that sucks considering WEP is so insecure |
| 12:45.40 | Foxdie | also found another problem with wlan |
| 12:45.47 | tsdogs | read tonight logs ... cr2 has something to say about it :) and I agree... |
| 12:45.55 | tsdogs | which is? |
| 12:46.54 | Foxdie | typing it now |
| 12:47.17 | Foxdie | I started your image, typed in my wireless details, I get error: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : Invalid argument WEP_PASSWORD_HERE. |
| 12:47.31 | Foxdie | where WEP blah blah was my wep key |
| 12:47.31 | BabelO | tsdogs: i ve comited your change to custom.cpp |
| 12:47.47 | tsdogs | great. |
| 12:47.48 | Foxdie | it's repeated again with Set Mode and invalid argument "Infrastructure" |
| 12:48.10 | Foxdie | all these are references to the contents of /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:48.27 | tsdogs | Foxdie: have to check that too, the kernel now is -hh2 so maybe some things changed |
| 12:48.35 | Foxdie | on a side note, I only get that errorr when doing ifup wlan0, the built in wireless applet doesn't work with start / stopping GUI |
| 12:48.49 | Foxdie | GUI doesn't work at all for start/stop |
| 12:48.51 | tsdogs | I think you can change that in the oipe settings network |
| 12:49.04 | Foxdie | possibly, i will have a dig around in a couple of mines |
| 12:49.18 | Foxdie | afk little foxes room ;) |
| 12:49.43 | tsdogs | ;) |
| 12:50.21 | tsdogs | BabelO: I tested opieII, and it only sees the wlans that are around (no blank lines here) |
| 12:51.16 | BabelO | tsdogs: ok, it is off day for me today, so i m working on application phone |
| 12:51.53 | tsdogs | that sounds great. I still have to build it though... |
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| 12:54.23 | tsdogs | BabelO: you think that your builded version will work on my image? |
| 12:54.51 | BabelO | yes, but does not do lot off thing |
| 12:55.25 | tsdogs | just to have a snip. |
| 12:55.45 | BabelO | ok, you can try |
| 12:55.58 | BabelO | need to copy libgnuphone.so to application plugin |
| 12:56.14 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.24 | tsdogs | ok |
| 13:03.58 | tsdogs | BabelO: am I missing a CallScreen theme? |
| 13:04.24 | BabelO | no, it is there |
| 13:04.29 | BabelO | it fail ? |
| 13:04.40 | tsdogs | Initialization failed (11) |
| 13:04.40 | tsdogs | Telephone interface init failed: Command timed out. |
| 13:04.40 | tsdogs | Quitting. |
| 13:04.40 | tsdogs | Contain CallScreen theme. |
| 13:04.40 | tsdogs | Segmentation fault |
| 13:04.52 | tsdogs | maybe wrong version of gnokii... |
| 13:04.55 | BabelO | edit dialer.xml in themes directory |
| 13:05.01 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: ok, so uni has usb host, right? |
| 13:05.14 | BabelO | on first line remove kaypad attribute |
| 13:05.32 | tsdogs | psokolovsky_: yes I think so. |
| 13:07.27 | tsdogs | BabelO: not sure I understand what you mean. |
| 13:08.03 | tsdogs | but callscreen is there you are right |
| 13:08.16 | BabelO | in opt/Qtopia/etc/themes/<your theme>/dialer.xml |
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| 13:08.28 | BabelO | first line look like <page name="dialer" base="themes/default"> |
| 13:10.55 | tsdogs | hmm, same result :( |
| 13:11.40 | tsdogs | BabelO: could this be caused by libgnokii? |
| 13:12.07 | BabelO | no |
| 13:12.25 | tsdogs | ok then some settings again :( |
| 13:12.36 | tsdogs | what theme you using for tests? |
| 13:12.45 | BabelO | qtpopia |
| 13:21.28 | Foxdie | hmm |
| 13:21.43 | Foxdie | it seems this invalid argument thing in interfaces is quite common in some distros |
| 13:26.36 | tsdogs | BabelO: it's something I'm missing in qtopia theme, cause I changed the qtopia.conf with default dialer and it loaded :) |
| 13:28.44 | BabelO | ok good |
| 13:31.56 | BabelO | is it small on your screen ? |
| 13:32.02 | BabelO | it is a test only |
| 13:32.31 | tsdogs | yes. but looks very good (the keyboard) |
| 13:33.10 | BabelO | ok, because i set geometry like on BA, need to change and get geometry from current display, looking at at api |
| 13:33.28 | tsdogs | whould it not bebetter to use Layouts? |
| 13:33.44 | tsdogs | they should fill the screen based on the display/window resolution |
| 13:34.14 | tsdogs | or is it just an image ? |
| 13:34.29 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes, but there is already a layout .. |
| 13:34.45 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 13:34.55 | BabelO | it is not just an image, all your see is comming from theme xml file and some svg image too |
| 13:35.50 | BabelO | going to talk to ronald ( eating ) |
| 13:35.50 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 13:39.01 | Foxdie | all rush at work today, not getting much testing done lol |
| 13:44.52 | Foxdie | tsdogs: I sort of solved it |
| 13:45.12 | Foxdie | GUI puts loads of crap in interfaces that doesn't need to be there |
| 13:45.18 | tsdogs | psokolovsky_: I saw you updated the defconfig (and fixed a few things) :) thx |
| 13:45.23 | Foxdie | for example, under iface wlan0 the following lines were present: |
| 13:45.41 | Foxdie | wireless_key blahblah [1] [2] [3] [4] |
| 13:45.46 | Foxdie | wireless_mode infrastructure |
| 13:46.04 | tsdogs | those are initialization settings. |
| 13:46.07 | Foxdie | I changed it to: wireless_key 0F5235 (wep key in hex) |
| 13:46.13 | Foxdie | and wireless_mode auto |
| 13:46.16 | Foxdie | and all the errors are gone |
| 13:46.32 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: yep, I'm processing your submission. Thanks for preparing it! |
| 13:47.28 | tsdogs | Foxdie: it depends on the driver supporting commands. |
| 13:48.05 | tsdogs | if the wlan does not support infrastructure, setting it to it will fail. |
| 13:48.54 | Foxdie | agreed, I think this acx driver is quite crap :) |
| 13:49.58 | tsdogs | well, I think it's hard to write a driver only with reverse engineering. |
| 13:50.29 | tsdogs | and it's getting better. :) |
| 13:59.01 | Foxdie | indeed :) |
| 14:04.56 | Foxdie | ooh, found new bug |
| 14:05.21 | Foxdie | if you apm -s to suspend, then turn back on, screen has slight flicker (like refresh rate problem) and keyboard bug I described earlier returns whilst in opie |
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| 14:07.30 | tsdogs | known bug. http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalBugs |
| 14:08.00 | Foxdie | d'oh |
| 14:09.14 | tsdogs | the kyboard didn't notice though |
| 14:09.32 | Foxdie | the bug explaination is slightly vague |
| 14:09.46 | Foxdie | it says pxafb (I'm assuming pxa as in scale chip and fb as in framebuffer) doesn't work |
| 14:09.54 | Foxdie | but it does work, it just has a slight flickering |
| 14:11.37 | tsdogs | yes, I saw something more specific, but don't remember where... |
| 14:11.56 | Foxdie | so long as it's known about it's all good :) |
| 14:13.25 | tsdogs | :) |
| 14:37.59 | Foxdie | tsdogs: I don't suppose you know of a minicom style program for universal / opie? |
| 14:39.10 | BabelO | Foxdie: you can download it for arm too |
| 14:39.45 | BabelO | Foxdie: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=letter&g=m |
| 14:40.10 | Foxdie | \o/ |
| 14:40.42 | Foxdie | who exactly are angstrom? |
| 14:41.48 | BabelO | a distrivbution like suse, rehat or unbuntu but for handheld |
| 14:42.11 | Foxdie | hmm, their website is slow, maybe I can offer a mirror |
| 14:42.19 | BabelO | ;) |
| 14:42.53 | psokolovsky_ | Foxdie: they don't need mirror, they need man-hours - offer yours! ;-) |
| 14:43.12 | Foxdie | man hours to do what? |
| 14:43.39 | Foxdie | I don't have a lot of time to spare, just pockets between jobs at work and home |
| 14:44.01 | psokolovsky_ | Foxdie: to do ditro which will do world-domination in embedded device area, what else? |
| 14:44.48 | psokolovsky_ | ah, that's common, mirrors are cheap, contribution is lacking |
| 14:44.54 | Foxdie | yay world domination |
| 14:45.03 | Foxdie | mirrors are cheap? |
| 14:45.09 | Foxdie | I was talking free :) |
| 14:45.29 | Foxdie | because I'm not a programmer I don't have a lot to contribute other than a little time per day to test things and share my server resources |
| 14:46.08 | psokolovsky_ | Foxdie: don't forget top submit bugs then, because testing w/o reporting issues is waste of time ;-( |
| 14:46.24 | Foxdie | where is the best place to submit bugs? |
| 14:46.33 | Foxdie | I thought it was here |
| 14:47.21 | psokolovsky_ | Foxdie: how irc can be a place to submit bugs?? it's place for chats! |
| 14:47.37 | psokolovsky_ | Foxdie: bugs for *angstrom* belong here: http://bugs.openembedded.org/ |
| 14:51.55 | Foxdie | thanks |
| 14:57.29 | Foxdie | is there a way to set backlight brightness in console without having to start opie? |
| 15:02.34 | psokolovsky_ | tsdogs: So, both htcuniversal_static_defconfig in CVS and defconfig in OE are are committed. once again, thanks. Now, please test that they work as expected ;-) |
| 15:12.31 | Foxdie | hmm, I am reading through the logs, I don't seem to have /dev/ttyUSB0 and lsmod returns nul |
| 15:40.13 | tsdogs | psokolovsky_: ok I will. |
| 15:42.30 | tsdogs | the one I gave you works (except that usb.host is not included in SVN so usbnet is not there) |
| 15:42.45 | tsdogs | I'll be testing now the resulting ones . |
| 15:43.38 | tsdogs | Foxdie: I think you have to load the modules in this kernel manually |
| 15:46.09 | Foxdie | manually? |
| 15:46.27 | tsdogs | I think so. |
| 15:46.32 | Foxdie | is it more difficult than modprobe / insmod / lsmod etc? |
| 15:46.44 | tsdogs | no modprobe is the one. |
| 15:46.58 | tsdogs | what are you going to use it for? |
| 15:47.02 | Foxdie | okay I will try when I get home, nearly time for this fox to hit the rush hour traffic |
| 15:47.12 | Foxdie | testing gprs / utms for cr2 |
| 15:47.14 | tsdogs | :) |
| 15:47.32 | tsdogs | Foxdie: I don't know if this one is there. |
| 15:48.03 | tsdogs | though I'm testing new kernels now (tonight) in OE/angstrom, so if they work I'll update them |
| 15:51.07 | Foxdie | cool, if you need any help just say my name as it pages me :) |
| 15:51.16 | Foxdie | well, makes my IRC client spaz out |
| 15:51.18 | tsdogs | I will. |
| 15:51.35 | Foxdie | just need to kill 10 mins :) |
| 15:52.15 | Foxdie | here's a quick smile for you; you know you're bored when you bend a paperclip into a pulse ramp waveform |
| 15:52.38 | Foxdie | as in: _|''|_|''|_ |
| 15:52.50 | Foxdie | I might put this on ebay for a joke |
| 15:53.01 | Foxdie | the paperclip, not the text :) |
| 15:53.31 | tsdogs | :) |
| 15:53.33 | Foxdie | you in the UK as well tsdogs? |
| 15:53.41 | tsdogs | nope, itally |
| 15:54.00 | tsdogs | didn't you notice from my bad "i"nglish |
| 15:54.44 | Foxdie | I think I got confused, I was speaking to someone yesterday who was a regular here who said he was from london, I was just testing if it was you :) |
| 15:55.01 | tsdogs | I think that was ellisway |
| 15:55.37 | tsdogs | you can still have a look at the logs: http://irclog.iclem.net/?chan=htc-linux :) |
| 15:55.39 | Foxdie | And your inglish is quite clear, so no problem if you're not 101% accurate, most british people have poor grammar so it's not like it matters these days |
| 15:56.14 | Foxdie | oh I have my own logs, I log everything because despite being friendly and a quick learner, my memory is quite bad |
| 15:57.34 | Foxdie | its wierd, I can remember things like my bank account details and credit card number without even trying, but conversations and important stuff I tend to forget, it's frustrating but I don't let it depress me, I just keep smiling and having fun, helping where I can ^_^ |
| 15:58.11 | tsdogs | ;) |
| 15:59.40 | Foxdie | hometime *legs it* |
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| 17:05.13 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Could you mail me the latest htcgen.c ? I have broke mine without taking a backup. |
| 17:20.11 | BabelO | goxboxlive: look at xanadux cvs ;) |
| 17:20.29 | goxboxlive | ok, you have uploaded it. Is it the latest one? |
| 17:21.18 | BabelO | yes |
| 17:22.36 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:46.23 | tsdogs | cr2 you around? |
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| 18:02.30 | drWyrM | hi. |
| 18:03.37 | drWyrM | the magician asoc driver on asoc0.13rc3 does work? |
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| 18:49.25 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ARe you here? |
| 18:49.36 | BabelO | yes |
| 18:49.41 | goxboxlive | listen |
| 18:50.22 | goxboxlive | I have checked out the gnokii source from xanadux and compiled it with both angstrom and codesourcery compiler. |
| 18:50.39 | goxboxlive | But still i get this when i try to launch gnokii. |
| 18:50.42 | goxboxlive | root@htcuniversal:~$ ./gnokii |
| 18:50.42 | goxboxlive | ./gnokii: ./gnokii: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected |
| 18:50.49 | goxboxlive | Why am i getting it |
| 18:51.03 | goxboxlive | Where is the unexpected ( |
| 18:51.23 | BabelO | where did you take executable ? |
| 18:52.04 | BabelO | if you take it directly from gnokii folder it is not here |
| 18:53.23 | goxboxlive | i took it form .libs folder |
| 18:54.02 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: you sure this is a arm exec ? |
| 18:54.23 | tsdogs | if on the host you do: file gnokii |
| 18:55.37 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: |
| 18:55.39 | goxboxlive | jrs@centrino:~/sources/gnokii/gnokii/.libs$ file gnokii |
| 18:55.39 | goxboxlive | gnokii: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
| 18:55.48 | tsdogs | :D |
| 18:55.54 | goxboxlive | so it is not crosscompiled |
| 18:55.57 | tsdogs | yepù |
| 18:55.58 | goxboxlive | why? |
| 18:56.12 | tsdogs | you set the CC=arm-linux-gcc ? |
| 18:56.30 | tsdogs | and ofcourse the PATH |
| 18:56.37 | goxboxlive | path yes and |
| 18:56.44 | goxboxlive | make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-eabi- |
| 18:57.12 | tsdogs | and what is the output when you run make? |
| 18:57.28 | tsdogs | gcc or arm-none-eabi-gcc |
| 18:58.02 | goxboxlive | when i run the make CRO... it compiles like normal |
| 18:58.14 | goxboxlive | should there be any other messages? |
| 18:58.59 | tsdogs | No what I mean is that usually it says all the commands it runs, and at the beginning of each command there should be the executable |
| 18:59.00 | goxboxlive | This is my configure: ./configure --without-xgnokii --without-xgnokiidir --without-x --target=arm-linux |
| 18:59.22 | goxboxlive | looks ok right? |
| 18:59.35 | goxboxlive | ok, let me check |
| 18:59.45 | tsdogs | ok testing ... |
| 19:00.32 | tsdogs | no I think you sould simply do this: |
| 19:00.32 | tsdogs | CC=arm-none-eabi-gcc make |
| 19:00.45 | goxboxlive | it says just gcc |
| 19:00.51 | goxboxlive | ok i'll try |
| 19:01.09 | tsdogs | whould it not be easyer to have it compiled into OE |
| 19:01.39 | tsdogs | bitbake -c patch gnokii |
| 19:02.02 | tsdogs | then extract gnokii over the exsisting one |
| 19:02.17 | tsdogs | and then run the bitbake gnokii |
| 19:02.21 | goxboxlive | no i dont have OE on my laptop |
| 19:02.26 | tsdogs | ho ok. |
| 19:02.31 | goxboxlive | gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W |
| 19:02.36 | tsdogs | hmm |
| 19:04.26 | goxboxlive | checking whether we are cross compiling... no |
| 19:04.32 | tsdogs | yes |
| 19:06.09 | goxboxlive | how do i force it to make it crosscompile? |
| 19:06.42 | tsdogs | I thogut that this CC=arm-none-eabi-gcc make would work |
| 19:07.01 | goxboxlive | but i guess i need it with configure |
| 19:07.18 | tsdogs | yes some configure option is missing. |
| 19:07.24 | goxboxlive | If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. |
| 19:08.13 | goxboxlive | checking whether we are cross compiling... yes :-) |
| 19:08.14 | tsdogs | yes you miss the host |
| 19:08.18 | tsdogs | :) |
| 19:08.30 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 19:08.41 | tsdogs | You done it all by yoursel :) |
| 19:08.49 | tsdogs | ok going home now. bbl |
| 19:08.59 | goxboxlive | You are allways giving me good hints |
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| 19:56.44 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Have you figured out how to come around at+cops? without running CU parallell? |
| 19:57.08 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: have you figured out why qpe screwes up our keyboard? |
| 19:59.39 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is ok now, i can display all i want, so i test if login into security is needed, else a pinbox is displayed.. then login into network automatically |
| 20:00.17 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Is the source for that commited? |
| 20:01.09 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: haven't had the time yet. |
| 20:01.11 | goxboxlive | Because i have to have the atv1 hack to let it run true the at commands when doing gnokii -identify |
| 20:08.47 | goxboxlive | Does this look good? http://pastebin.no/1646 |
| 20:13.24 | freshr | hi |
| 20:13.33 | freshr | all |
| 20:13.45 | freshr | i am newbie here. but i am gprs,wap,mms engineer in the past and i think i could contribute something. i am a780 and blueangel owner. i have been trying to understand current situation with using linux on mobile. and i am little bit confused. there are a lot software and technologies like familiar, angstrom, xanadux, openembedded, gpe, opie, qtopia, openmoko and others... what have you been researching here? familiar kernel? as for me i am interested in us |
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| 20:17.40 | goxboxlive | hi freshr: We use angstrom distro, familiar is obsolete |
| 20:18.12 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: if that was for me, only the second mountpoint should be /dev/mmcblk0p2 not /dev/mmcblk0p3 but I dont think this matters... |
| 20:18.41 | goxboxlive | freshr: ALl the gui env you are listing is mather of what u like |
| 20:18.53 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: I have swap on mmcblkp2 |
| 20:19.01 | tsdogs | ho ok |
| 20:19.20 | BabelO | freshr: it is essentialy kernel here,but since many device can work a graphics environment like openmoko, opie, gpe we try also to have handheld working as a day to day pda |
| 20:19.27 | tsdogs | swap on the handled with SD? hmm dunno if it's a good idea. |
| 20:20.10 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: Yes it is a good idea when installing appz |
| 20:20.26 | goxboxlive | try it and you will c. there are a lot of others who also do it |
| 20:20.56 | tsdogs | didn't think about it :) |
| 20:22.32 | freshr | goxboxlive: do you use fork of angstrom? is it a kernel from cvs at handhelds.org? |
| 20:23.13 | goxboxlive | freshr: the kernelsource is form hh.org and the distro is angstrom. We use openembedded to build it togheter |
| 20:24.44 | freshr | goxboxlive: ok, thank u very much. situation is more clear now for me. |
| 20:25.42 | tsdogs | freshr: I took me a lot of time to sort all this out :) |
| 20:26.13 | tsdogs | s/I/It/ |
| 20:26.15 | ellisway | eve3ning all |
| 20:26.20 | tsdogs | hi ellisway |
| 20:26.28 | padski | hi all, I have an htc universal. I have an angstrom image installed and stuff seems to work. I have a bunch of questions :-) |
| 20:27.42 | tsdogs | shoot, and will see if we can be of any help. |
| 20:28.26 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: by the way the htcuniversal.conf (revisited) was submitted to OE today |
| 20:28.41 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: Yes i saw it, good |
| 20:28.52 | goxboxlive | But anyway, opie2 wouldnt launch |
| 20:29.16 | tsdogs | where does it hang? |
| 20:29.19 | goxboxlive | http://pastebin.no/1647 |
| 20:29.49 | padski | arches. this is armv5tel. I tried grabbing a binary from debian but it didn't run. |
| 20:30.19 | freshr | tsdogs: yeap. there a lot of information on hh.org and xda-dev.org but it is outdated and you need to combine it yourself. |
| 20:31.29 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: it is segfaulting ... |
| 20:31.34 | goxboxlive | why |
| 20:31.56 | goxboxlive | i have libgnokii working now |
| 20:32.39 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: what's your env variables? |
| 20:33.53 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: This is my start script http://pastebin.no/1648 |
| 20:33.57 | padski | will the debian arm run on the universal ? |
| 20:34.43 | goxboxlive | padski: yes i have done it |
| 20:35.10 | goxboxlive | But it is slow and time demanding to have it running |
| 20:35.38 | goxboxlive | A lot of work to make it running. |
| 20:35.39 | BabelO | padski: what is debian name code for arm ? |
| 20:36.33 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: http://pastebin.ca/493530 this is mine |
| 20:37.03 | padski | Babel0: not sure I understand you. debian build to a target they call 'arm'. I expect that covers a multitude of sins, much like any other arch. |
| 20:37.34 | padski | BabelO: iirc there is also armeb, I think that is the other endian ? |
| 20:37.56 | BabelO | padski: ok,i was thinking that they call it like they done for Debian "Sarge" |
| 20:38.54 | padski | BabelO: afaik the arch names are mostly more prosaic. the most controversial I can think of is 'amd64' :-) |
| 20:39.01 | BabelO | padski: it is normal that binary you download from debian does not work. because maybe there are not EABI compiled |
| 20:39.57 | goxboxlive | root@htcuniversal:~$ QAbstractSocket::waitForReadyRead() is not allowed in UnconnectedState |
| 20:39.57 | goxboxlive | QAbstractSocket::waitForReadyRead() is not allowed in UnconnectedState |
| 20:39.57 | goxboxlive | ApplicationLayer: Application layer server unexpectedly terminated. |
| 20:40.12 | padski | BabelO: Ah! now I see wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort |
| 20:40.16 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: Thats the output i get when i stop it |
| 20:40.27 | BabelO | padski: yes, it seem it is new ? |
| 20:40.48 | tsdogs | hmm, very strange |
| 20:40.56 | tsdogs | can you try doing something like: |
| 20:41.21 | tsdogs | . ./youropiestartscript (to set the variables) |
| 20:41.52 | padski | BabelO: just reading now thanks for pointer. there is something similar on ppc, with different ABIs for compatibilty with AIX and linux. |
| 20:41.53 | tsdogs | and then /opt/Qtopia/bin/mixer -qws |
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| 20:47.31 | BabelO | padski: i don't know if they provide something from scratch, but in this case il you want you can build universal kernel with a desactivated eabi and it should work on standard debian arm |
| 20:52.17 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: anything changed? |
| 20:54.10 | padski | Babel0: they make a pretty convincing case for eabi. I want to build gnustep, which shouldn't be too hard from where I am. |
| 20:54.40 | padski | why is my /root in /home ? |
| 20:54.57 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: Nothing happends |
| 20:55.04 | goxboxlive | it just hangs |
| 20:55.15 | BabelO | padski: don't know, they take it as standard maybe |
| 20:55.19 | tsdogs | I think there is something in the config files. |
| 20:55.34 | goxboxlive | It is strange because i have gnokii running in bacjground so there shouldnt be anything with the phone now |
| 20:55.39 | goxboxlive | me too |
| 20:55.43 | goxboxlive | maybe change theme |
| 20:55.57 | tsdogs | could be |
| 20:56.35 | tsdogs | Maybe try removing the All raw in the /opt/Qtopia/etc/Task.conf |
| 20:56.40 | goxboxlive | the screen doesnt flash either |
| 20:56.43 | tsdogs | just to see if it's core or apps. |
| 20:56.58 | tsdogs | do you have the libtransformed? |
| 20:57.18 | padski | BabelO: this is the /home/root thing ? I can imagine reasons, but it's pretty unusual, someone must have done it :-) |
| 20:58.32 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: Isent it compiled in like the rest. Isent it a part of qtopia |
| 20:59.18 | goxboxlive | What else should QWS be set to? |
| 20:59.49 | goxboxlive | I cant see libtransformed in /ope/Qtopia/libs/ |
| 21:01.30 | tsdogs | should be in /opt/Qtopia/qt_plugins/gfxdrivers |
| 21:01.49 | goxboxlive | is his correct: http://pastebin.no/1649 |
| 21:01.54 | tsdogs | kayboard works now :) (symbols and buttons not yet) |
| 21:02.14 | goxboxlive | libqgfxtransformed.so |
| 21:02.18 | goxboxlive | good |
| 21:02.41 | tsdogs | hmm, it seems so (dunno about media server) let me check |
| 21:04.02 | tsdogs | I don't have mediaserver http://pastebin.ca/493582 |
| 21:05.17 | goxboxlive | do you use helix and alsa? |
| 21:05.36 | tsdogs | only alsa |
| 21:06.46 | goxboxlive | ok, then it is probably helix |
| 21:07.06 | tsdogs | could be no idea, can't you simply disable it? |
| 21:07.42 | goxboxlive | I dont have qss |
| 21:07.53 | tsdogs | (sould be sound server ...) |
| 21:08.50 | goxboxlive | i dont think so, i have to reconfigure i think |
| 21:08.59 | goxboxlive | But BabelO have had opie2 running with Helix |
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| 21:09.28 | tsdogs | from your pastebin I cannot find out what it is that crashes ... |
| 21:09.45 | goxboxlive | me neither, it's strange |
| 21:09.48 | tsdogs | can you do a gdb |
| 21:09.58 | goxboxlive | yes i can try, but guide me |
| 21:10.02 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:10.13 | tsdogs | first set up the variables with |
| 21:10.26 | tsdogs | . /etc/init.d/opie |
| 21:10.47 | tsdogs | (there is a space between the dot and the command) |
| 21:11.14 | tsdogs | then simply issue gdb /opt/Qtopia/bin/qpe -terminal 3 -nodaemon |
| 21:11.41 | tsdogs | once it starts issue: run |
| 21:12.49 | goxboxlive | Starting program: /opt/Qtopia/bin/qpe |
| 21:12.49 | goxboxlive | Using host libthread_db library "libthread_db.so.1". |
| 21:12.49 | goxboxlive | Segmentation fault |
| 21:13.13 | tsdogs | issue where and paste output |
| 21:13.25 | tsdogs | then issue bt and pastebin |
| 21:14.39 | goxboxlive | http://pastebin.ca/493610 |
| 21:15.35 | goxboxlive | issue bt ? How, it is running |
| 21:15.38 | goxboxlive | gnokii |
| 21:16.03 | tsdogs | ok it seems to be the button handler |
| 21:16.19 | tsdogs | simply remove the keyboard evn variable. |
| 21:16.35 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:16.36 | tsdogs | be sure to exit ssh and login again |
| 21:16.47 | tsdogs | to reset variables |
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| 21:20.14 | goxboxlive | ok, didnt know, thx |
| 21:21.20 | tsdogs | it's only cause of the . ./script thing |
| 21:24.29 | goxboxlive | ok, now i used your start script but it didnt help that either. It wouldnt start even though it not load the htcbutton or key. |
| 21:25.46 | tsdogs | hmm |
| 21:25.46 | goxboxlive | well anyway. It's getting late and i am tired. I'll try further tomorrow. |
| 21:25.46 | goxboxlive | night |
| 21:25.46 | tsdogs | night |
| 21:26.42 | tsdogs | BabelO: you here? |
| 21:26.50 | BabelO | yes |
| 21:26.59 | BabelO | fihting with event ;) |
| 21:27.06 | tsdogs | yes |
| 21:27.15 | BabelO | fighting |
| 21:27.26 | tsdogs | I'm looking at the htckeyboard |
| 21:27.46 | tsdogs | the keycodes are translated statically. Are this settings for BA ? |
| 21:27.54 | tsdogs | you wrote the code right? |
| 21:28.51 | BabelO | yes, don't remember. but was thinking to usekernelkeymap for keyboard and keep htcbutton for real button |
| 21:29.26 | tsdogs | well, kernelkbdmap ain't working for universal ... |
| 21:29.37 | tsdogs | is it for BA ? |
| 21:29.46 | BabelO | no, same for me |
| 21:29.48 | tsdogs | tunning |
| 21:30.02 | tsdogs | ok, so there is something in the code that prevents it to run |
| 21:30.10 | tsdogs | I think it is the tty0 |
| 21:30.42 | tsdogs | It does not work like events ... |
| 21:31.24 | tsdogs | how many keyboards input do you have on BA? |
| 21:32.00 | BabelO | 3 i think |
| 21:32.43 | BabelO | standard keybord, then tsc2200 button and also pxa gpio button and asic3 |
| 21:32.43 | tsdogs | ok, but 1 is for buttons, 1 is for keyboard and 1 is for touchscreen ? |
| 21:32.43 | tsdogs | ok then like in universal |
| 21:32.59 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes, i ve already one working, for touch direction |
| 21:33.01 | tsdogs | gpio should only be responsible for the leds and sensors |
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| 21:33.40 | tsdogs | is it the htcbuttons ? |
| 21:33.44 | BabelO | yes |
| 21:34.14 | tsdogs | hmm. so you have the 2 events for separate buttons (like we had in universal) |
| 21:35.02 | tsdogs | that's why the 2 events opening in there. |
| 21:36.01 | tsdogs | I think we should find a common solution here. |
| 21:36.30 | tsdogs | I'd be ok with the kernelkeymap, and the htcbuttons |
| 21:36.40 | BabelO | yes, i was thinking about a proc entry that show all input device |
| 21:36.46 | tsdogs | dropping the only one that works right now :) |
| 21:37.05 | tsdogs | in opie there was, so I think there is one in qtopia too |
| 21:37.15 | tsdogs | s/qtopia/opieII/ |
| 21:38.00 | tsdogs | in opie I looked for the driver (like asic) |
| 21:38.58 | tsdogs | I'll try to make the kernelkeymap work first. then will think something fot the buttons. |
| 21:39.12 | BabelO | so i ve 3 buttons entries |
| 21:39.36 | tsdogs | yep, we only have 2 now. |
| 21:39.42 | BabelO | 1 keyboard and 1 touchscreen |
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| 21:40.02 | tsdogs | nope, 1 keyboard and 1 buttons/hinge |
| 21:40.55 | BabelO | no i speak in /dev/input /eventX on ba |
| 21:41.18 | tsdogs | we had 3, but they merged all the buttons in asic3 and left sensors/leds in gpio |
| 21:41.48 | tsdogs | ho |
| 21:41.52 | tsdogs | I have 4 |
| 21:42.14 | tsdogs | can you pastebin cat /proc/bus/input/devices ? |
| 21:42.42 | BabelO | yes |
| 21:43.51 | Foxdie | pastebin makes the world turn ^^ |
| 21:44.17 | tsdogs | hello Foxdie |
| 21:45.33 | Foxdie | greetings ts, how goes? |
| 21:45.57 | tsdogs | busy fixing things :) |
| 21:46.29 | BabelO | http://pastebin.ca/493678 |
| 21:47.08 | BabelO | first is only buttons |
| 21:47.57 | tsdogs | asic is keyboard I suppose |
| 21:48.15 | BabelO | oups not loaded keyboard |
| 21:49.25 | tsdogs | so now you have 5 :) |
| 21:49.48 | BabelO | yes http://pastebin.ca/493688 |
| 21:49.58 | tsdogs | you know which one is what? |
| 21:50.16 | BabelO | we can parse for Handlers=kbd |
| 21:50.22 | BabelO | yes i know |
| 21:51.22 | tsdogs | I suppose we should concentrate on asic3-keys input1 and blueangelkb input5 tsc2200-keys input 0 |
| 21:51.45 | tsdogs | you are missing input3 (?) |
| 21:51.52 | tsdogs | touchscreen ? |
| 21:51.53 | BabelO | yes, gpio-keys is only power button |
| 21:52.13 | Foxdie | ugh, I feel sick, too much curry x.x |
| 21:52.21 | BabelO | tsdogs: no i modprobe -r ts for some test |
| 21:52.27 | tsdogs | ok |
| 21:52.40 | tsdogs | what's on input0 ? |
| 21:53.07 | tsdogs | looking at BA picture :) |
| 21:53.26 | Foxdie | BA? |
| 21:53.40 | BabelO | Foxdie: blueangel |
| 21:53.56 | Foxdie | ahh |
| 21:54.11 | Foxdie | okay, whats next to test? |
| 21:54.27 | Foxdie | I would test gprs but I don't have the kernel module for /dev/ttyUSB0 |
| 21:55.00 | BabelO | Foxdie: to have ttyUSB0 , you need to load usbserial |
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| 21:55.19 | BabelO | but it need a special vendorid to command line |
| 21:56.02 | Foxdie | is it possible to do with no extras? |
| 21:56.11 | tsdogs | Foxdie: you have the module. (at least I have it in hh0) |
| 21:56.19 | BabelO | tsdogs: on asic3 i ve record, volume up/down, camera,windows,mail,internet and ok buttons |
| 21:56.25 | Foxdie | afk, booting it into linu |
| 21:56.27 | Foxdie | *linux |
| 21:58.06 | tsdogs | I meant the ts2000_keys |
| 21:58.06 | Foxdie | done |
| 21:58.20 | tsdogs | or it's only the touchscreen ? |
| 21:58.48 | BabelO | and on tsc i ve other ;) joypad directions + phone button + calendar and contact |
| 21:58.52 | Foxdie | okay, modprobe usbserial does nothing |
| 21:59.08 | BabelO | Foxdie: it need parameters |
| 21:59.14 | BabelO | i m looking for |
| 21:59.15 | Foxdie | oh, wait, it hung for a few secs |
| 21:59.19 | Foxdie | I've got some output |
| 21:59.54 | Foxdie | just usual registration messages |
| 22:00.01 | Foxdie | BabelO: you're looking for params? |
| 22:00.05 | Foxdie | thanks :) |
| 22:01.56 | BabelO | yes looking but maybe cr2 remember |
| 22:02.30 | Foxdie | cr2 afk for more than 2 hours it seems |
| 22:05.18 | cr2 | hi :) |
| 22:05.23 | tsdogs | foxdie: http://purl.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/20061122.html.gz 20:35.42 |
| 22:05.39 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
| 22:05.49 | tsdogs | hi cr2 |
| 22:06.31 | cr2 | Foxdie: do you have 'lsusb' ? |
| 22:06.47 | Foxdie | yes, typing it returns nul |
| 22:06.54 | cr2 | or do 'cat /sys/bus/usb/devices' |
| 22:06.55 | Foxdie | tsdogs: new image? |
| 22:07.14 | tsdogs | it's missing usbserial ... |
| 22:07.41 | cr2 | i can tell you the numbers, they are somewhere in the xda-dev wiki. |
| 22:08.03 | Foxdie | cr2: is a directory |
| 22:08.03 | Foxdie | I did modprobe usbserial |
| 22:08.06 | Foxdie | there's now a folder /sys/bus/usb-serial/ |
| 22:08.08 | cr2 | the parameters for usbserial are 'modinfo usbserial' |
| 22:09.08 | cr2 | modprobe usbserial vendor=0x05c6 product=0x3197 |
| 22:09.31 | Foxdie | does that have to be done on fresh boot? |
| 22:09.40 | cr2 | hehe. |
| 22:09.42 | cr2 | irc.freenode.com_#htc-linux.log:[Di Nov 21 2006] [19:52:46] |
| 22:11.37 | cr2 | no, you can load it at any time. |
| 22:11.38 | cr2 | afair ohci is compiled into the kernel. |
| 22:11.38 | Foxdie | okay, done that, whats next? |
| 22:11.39 | cr2 | do you have ttyUSB0 ? |
| 22:11.39 | Foxdie | nope |
| 22:11.39 | cr2 | dmesg ? |
| 22:11.39 | Foxdie | one moment.. |
| 22:13.02 | Foxdie | no dmesg in /var/log/ |
| 22:13.19 | Foxdie | however, checking /var/log/messages, there is some output regarding usb serial |
| 22:13.32 | Foxdie | the usual deregistering / registering messages |
| 22:13.48 | Foxdie | then something about user.debug kernel: PM: Adding info for No Bus:vcs8 |
| 22:14.03 | Foxdie | is PM: power management? |
| 22:15.41 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:16.08 | cr2 | can you rmmod usbserial ? |
| 22:16.15 | Foxdie | yes, done |
| 22:23.50 | tsdogs | I think you are missing htcuniversal_udc there. |
| 22:26.28 | Foxdie | okay, are you able to add that to another image? |
| 22:26.38 | cr2 | udc is not needed. |
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| 22:29.11 | Foxdie | so what must I do? |
| 22:31.45 | cr2 | modprobe usbserial vendor=0x05c6 product=0x3197 |
| 22:32.07 | cr2 | if you will not have ttyUSB0, then something is wrong with ohci. |
| 22:32.27 | Foxdie | will restart and try |
| 22:32.46 | tsdogs | no need I tested it too, but not working ... |
| 22:33.08 | Foxdie | I tried it once with no arguments and then rmmod, I will try with clean boot.. unless tsdogs has tried that |
| 22:33.14 | tsdogs | cr2: did anything change from .20 to .21 for usb on unversal? |
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| 22:39.18 | cr2 | tsdogs: should not. |
| 22:39.48 | tsdogs | cr2: lsusb does not work :? |
| 22:40.37 | BabelO | psokolovsky: i try rmoravcik acx patch, it seem to works on BA |
| 22:41.43 | psokolovsky | BabelO: nice |
| 22:42.45 | BabelO | psokolovsky: but as wifi is not working for a long time on BA, i don't know if it works greter or same |
| 22:43.53 | psokolovsky | BabelO: what you mean doesn't for long time? |
| 22:43.58 | psokolovsky | work |
| 22:44.11 | Foxdie | okay I confirm, doesn't work |
| 22:44.21 | BabelO | psokolovsky: it works only since few days |
| 22:44.43 | psokolovsky | BabelO: ah, ok ;-) |
| 22:45.17 | psokolovsky | BabelO: but did you try for example leave it pinging for few hours? |
| 22:45.20 | Foxdie | but I believe me and tsdogs are both using his image, not sure what differs in it |
| 22:46.38 | BabelO | psokolovsky: few hours? ;) no i can't there is lot of error message after some minute only. i ve tryed to download a 11.6 Mo file from internet |
| 22:47.14 | tsdogs | the kernel is 2.6.21-hh0 |
| 22:47.17 | tsdogs | I have to build new one and see if it works... |
| 22:47.27 | psokolovsky | BabelO: and - did it work? |
| 22:47.54 | psokolovsky | tsdogs: -hh0 kernel *cannot* work at all. |
| 22:48.06 | tsdogs | ok |
| 22:48.07 | BabelO | psokolovsky: yes it works fine. i m doing another test and show to you my pastebin |
| 22:49.02 | psokolovsky | BabelO: better, send a message to k-d with exact steps you tried and their results, then I'll be able to try them on my hw, and we'll see if there're any differences. |
| 22:49.54 | BabelO | psokolovsky: ok i do that if i understand how to reply to your post from KD |
| 22:53.40 | BabelO | psokolovsky: did you change rate for your test ? |
| 22:54.56 | psokolovsky | which rate? |
| 22:55.25 | BabelO | psokolovsky: iwconfig wlan0 rate 1M because it is set to 22Mb/s by default |
| 22:56.05 | psokolovsky | BabelO: nope |
| 22:58.30 | Foxdie | time for this fox to crash, tsdogs / cr2 / BabelO if you need me to test anything just say pastebin it with urls to any downloads and then say: foxdie test this http://pastebin.blahblah |
| 22:58.51 | Foxdie | and I will test in morning and submit report when I see you guys |
| 22:58.55 | Foxdie | sleep well when you guys go to bed ;) |
| 22:59.45 | BabelO | ok changing rate is not a good idea :( |
| 22:59.55 | BabelO | <4>wlan0: association FAILED: peer sent Status Code 18 (Assoc denied: requesting STA doesnt support all data rates in basic set) |
| 23:00.07 | tsdogs | Foxdie: I'm building new kernel... |
| 23:00.49 | Foxdie | okay, leave me link and I will try again tomorrow :) |
| 23:00.54 | Foxdie | good luck |
| 23:01.12 | freshr | tsdogs: you also can give new kernel for me. i will setup linux om my ba on this weekend. |
| 23:01.40 | tsdogs | freshr: you better ask babelo, I have universal not BA |
| 23:02.22 | psokolovsky | freshr: if you have experience, etc, etc, don't be lazy - build it yourself ;-) |
| 23:03.27 | freshr | psokolovsky: yep. sure. i will do so ;) |
| 23:03.52 | psokolovsky | freshr: just in case, wiki has all info you might need |
| 23:04.27 | BabelO | psokolovsky: is there a way to shutdown screen with sysfs ? |
| 23:05.31 | psokolovsky | BabelO: yes. what exactly do you mean? turn off b/l? lcd? |
| 23:06.01 | BabelO | turn off lcd, i didn't found the stuff to do this |
| 23:07.16 | psokolovsky | BabelO: /sys/class/lcd/ , then look there, should be clear. power if iirc. |
| 23:09.49 | BabelO | psokolovsky: i ve w100fb and power is set to 0 ?! |
| 23:10.05 | psokolovsky | BabelO: set it to 4 |
| 23:10.36 | BabelO | psokolovsky: eh eh magic number, thx ;) i can't found it |
| 23:12.27 | BabelO | why 4 ? is it relative to a suspend step ? |
| 23:12.27 | psokolovsky | BabelO: it's vesa power states, sth close to acpi states. S0 - fully working, S4- fully off ;-) |
| 23:12.27 | BabelO | ok, and what are intermediate state ? |
| 23:12.28 | BabelO | if they exists |
| 23:12.28 | psokolovsky | we don't use them, but they vsync off, etc. |
| 23:12.29 | psokolovsky | all that crt crap ;-) |
| 23:13.21 | BabelO | ok, thx for explain. i ping yahoo actually, works fine no error message, i set txpower to 9 instead of 18 |
| 23:13.32 | BabelO | and rate is autodetect to 11Mb/s |
| 23:14.13 | psokolovsky | ok |
| 23:15.31 | BabelO | current consumption is around 200 to 250mA at power 9 |
| 23:17.54 | BabelO | hum, same for other settings |
| 23:18.53 | psokolovsky | BabelO: you turn off bl too? and how are you connected to device? |
| 23:19.48 | BabelO | psokolovsky: yes ,bl + lcd + led and connected over usb, no other solution, i boot over nfs |
| 23:20.19 | BabelO | hum another idea ;) change cpufreq when wifi running, fun ! |
| 23:21.07 | psokolovsky | BabelO: in mytesting, 2 biggest power hogs were: |
| 23:21.09 | psokolovsky | 1. UDC |
| 23:21.13 | psokolovsky | 2. Backlight |
| 23:22.54 | BabelO | psokolovsky: and now you can add acx ;) |
| 23:23.19 | psokolovsky | BabelO: I'm sure that half of your figure is due to usb |
| 23:24.33 | BabelO | hum not sure, because i m always running with a console which monitor current and most off the time i m aroung 70mA - 90mA |
| 23:27.13 | BabelO | ok now cpu is set to 99Mhz and same |
| 23:29.17 | BabelO | nice ;) |
| 23:29.19 | BabelO | RX packets:1341 errors:5 |
| 23:29.28 | BabelO | TX packets:1340 |
| 23:29.37 | BabelO | RX bytes:109298 (106.7 KiB) TX bytes:127922 (124.9 KiB) |
| 23:29.57 | BabelO | after 15mn |
| 23:32.27 | BabelO | psokolovsky: i heard you fix htcuniversal_acx unloading ? |
| 23:33.01 | psokolovsky | BabelO: no, but we understand the issue now. and solution to it - make it unloadbale at all ;-) |
| 23:33.13 | BabelO | lol |
| 23:34.32 | BabelO | ok going to bed more test tomorrow evening |
| 23:34.35 | BabelO | good night |
| 23:35.07 | pH5 | psokolovsky: hi, what's that link you sent me? I can't open it. |
| 23:36.10 | psokolovsky | pH5: oops, one sec |
| 23:36.10 | psokolovsky | BabelO: good night! |
| 23:36.50 | psokolovsky | pH5: http://handhelds.org/~pfalcon/busyb/buildlogs/build_20070518_002039/Step26-3.html |
| 23:37.31 | pH5 | thanks. |
| 23:38.35 | pH5 | heh, that is built with the defconfigman defconfig right? |
| 23:38.45 | psokolovsky | pH5: yep |
| 23:38.48 | pH5 | that breakage was expected :) |
| 23:39.04 | psokolovsky | pH5: I recently cleaned up ipaq_mtd too |
| 23:39.16 | psokolovsky | pH5: so let's fix it ;-) |
| 23:39.27 | psokolovsky | is mag indeed has nor flash? |
| 23:42.01 | pH5 | I think so, it's this Intel StrataFlash on the pxa272? I have made its own magician_flash driver, but I suspect it could somehow use MTD_PHYSMAP instead. |
| 23:42.50 | psokolovsky | pH5: so it shouldn't use ipaq_mtd for sure, right? |
| 23:43.51 | pH5 | Correct. I'll try to fix up the magician defconfig this weekend. |
| 23:45.23 | psokolovsky | thanks |
| 23:47.08 | pH5 | btw, about the jffs2 issue I can't help either, can't let go of haret. |
| 23:48.17 | pH5 | 'night |
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