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02:25.46thinkohey guys.. anyone know what model the new Telus HTC P4000 is?
02:26.00thinkoit's very similar to a TyTN and a Hermes
02:26.30pofyes
02:26.41pofit's called "Titan" (not confuse with TyTN)
02:26.46pofand it's only a CDMA phone
02:27.07thinkoyeah, I just bought it
02:27.12thinkoI've had an apache for about a year
02:27.26pofwhich rom version does it have?
02:27.42thinkoROM Ver: 1.22.661.5
02:27.42thinkoROM date: 03/20/07
02:27.52thinkoRadio Verion: 1.13.00
02:27.53thinkoHW Ver: 0003
02:27.59pofos build and date ?
02:28.17thinkonot sure, how do I check?
02:29.23pofsettings -> system -> about
02:30.23thinkothere doesn't seem to be much online about the Titan yet.. nothing in the xda wiki, not on the HTC wikipedia page..
02:30.50thinkoOS 5.1.465 (Build: 15673.3.3.1)
02:30.55pofwe're discussing in the moderators forum whether to add a forum for it or not
02:31.07thinkoProcessor is the MSM7500-400Mhz
02:31.10thinkoahh
02:31.20pofas it seems will not be a very common device
02:31.55thinkovery common where? Telus is putting a big push on it, and discontinuing the Starcom 6700
02:32.15thinkoand the P4000 was just released here
02:32.50pofprobably we will add only 1 forum under "Other HTC Manufactured phones" instead of the 3 usual (accessories, upgrading...)
02:33.29pofit's also sold as Sprint PPC-6800
02:33.40thinko*nods*
02:37.05thinkohttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290894
02:37.14thinkothere's some pics of it :)
02:38.33pofso do u think lots of people will get interested on it ?
02:39.25thinkoif it's on sprint and telus, there's a pretty large potential userbase.. it's just been released here so it's too early to tell, but I imagine there will be lots of folks fed up with their 6700's that will pick up a 6800
02:40.00thinkotelus gave me the new 6800 for $100 even though I still have almost 2 years on my contract
02:41.08pofoh thats a good deal :)
02:41.43pofis CDMA very common in the US?
02:43.23thinkoI'd say so.. it's very popular in canada (where I am) and outnumbers GSM by 2-to-1 easily
02:46.48thinkoI wonder if HTC will be releasing a WM6 upgrade like they're doing for a lot of the other newer phones
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05:49.47goxboxlivegood morning
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06:52.21goxboxlivehi pH5
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08:16.55kellyhey guys, just checking the status of the hermes port?
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08:34.03BabelOgood morning
08:34.42kellymorning (actually evening here is aus)
08:35.37pH5hey BabelO, kelly
08:38.13kellyhey pH5
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09:08.05goxboxlivehi all
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09:11.26BabelOpH5: GPRS is working on BA ;)
09:11.53BabelOhi goxboxlive
09:18.44cr2BabelO: hi. the gnokii is nowhere in the include path, and it's a "user" include which should go into config. do you have it in /usr/local/arm too ?
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09:20.05BabelOcr2: i ll look
09:20.30cr2imho gnokii and tslib are the excellent candidates for the 3rdparty directory. we only need to contact ljp somehow.
09:23.03BabelOcr2: i ve edited Makefile.target in src/server directory by hand
09:23.16BabelOand include -L and -I to my gnokii dir
09:23.32BabelOto avoid recompiling every thing
09:24.20BabelObut if we add it to 3rdparty i think it is automatic
09:24.31cr2ok, but the right solution is to add it to devices/htcphone/configure
09:24.41BabelOcr2: yes
09:24.44cr2for htcphonehardware.cpp
09:25.25cr2i don't have any Makefile in src/server ?
09:26.45BabelOtrunk/src/server ?
09:27.32cr2devices/htcphone/src/Makefile.target
09:28.34BabelOnot here, directory under devices/htcphone are same as under trunk
09:28.34BabelOit is to add custom file to opie tree
09:29.15cr2ok, i'll add full paths to the file itself. don't want to recompile everything.
09:31.31BabelOcr2: yes, that s why i do the same :) not a fast machine
09:31.57BabelOcr2: you have compiled gnokii ?
09:33.03cr2BabelO: the directory is empty ?
09:34.45BabelOyou can download a fresh gnokii and put here
09:35.16cr2ok.
09:35.41cr2maybe we should try the CVS version later
09:38.31cr2ok, how do i crosscompile gnokii ?
09:38.41cr2hm. it should be in the oe.
09:39.14cr2./packages/gnokii/gnokii_0.6.14.bb
09:39.40BabelOyes i think it is more easier with oe version
09:41.18cr2it grabbed libxpm.
09:41.41cr2gnokii has some gui stuff that we also do not need.
09:48.06cr2tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gnokii-0.6.14-r0/install/libgnokii-dev/usr/include/
09:52.57cr2htcphonehardware.cpp:241: error: prototype for ‘void htcphoneHardware::setCharging(bool)’ does not match any in class ‘htcphoneHardware’
09:53.42cr2void htcphoneHardware::setCharging(bool charge)
09:53.50cr2void setCharging(int charge);
09:58.23cr2appearance.h:34:25: error: itemcontrol.h: No such file or directory
10:01.53cr2yeah, missing completely.
10:04.30goxboxlivehi cr2, i see you still have problems with it. Have any one of you figured out the TSLIB bug (I/L) ?
10:08.31cr2no, but we have found that at least 3 pure qtopia files are missing from the tree.
10:21.09goxboxliveO, they might exist in the qtopicore first release
10:22.02goxboxliveIt compiled and it where no problem with it. But after the updates i have had several problems
10:22.18goxboxliveLet me check, what is the name of the missing files?
10:22.57cr2in. the log.
10:23.22cr2itemcontrol.h qbootsourceaccessory.cpp qbootsourceaccessory.h
10:24.44goxboxlivei'll check
10:27.26goxboxliveNo, non of them where in the first release version either.
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10:40.26BabelOcr2: lot of thing change since lastest version :(
10:57.49tsdogsas things are still, dropping in...
10:58.08tsdogsI'm still trying to build opie-image
10:58.16tsdogsnow it stops in lirc-modules
10:58.45tsdogsthough the configure task is executed, and build failes, the configure task reports some errors
10:59.07tsdogsis the linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.19-hh13-r1 for htc universal correct?
10:59.52tsdogshi alle: btw
11:00.01tsdogss/alle/all/
11:18.56tsdogsok, checked better and the problem seems to be in the kernel source tree in staging...
11:19.18tsdogslirc complains about not finding arch/arm/Kconfig
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11:21.19tsdogsI'm starting to think that this is a htcuniversal.conf problem about the linux version to be used...
11:21.31tsdogstrying to build the linux with bitbake...
11:22.13tsdogsOr maybe was a problem befora applying some updates to OE...
11:22.18tsdogsPrabably my fault.
11:22.28tsdogsI think I'm talking to miself right?
11:22.31tsdogs:)
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11:42.50tsdogsOE has something incomplete in the staging/htcuniversal/kernel installation, but do not know if this is my env issue or OE issue
11:43.34tsdogslinking the work/htc.../linux-handhelds.../kernel26 to staging/htc../kernel worked ...
11:44.05tsdogsI'm really talking to myself.
11:44.26tsdogsOk then I'll go eat something and BBL
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13:40.49goxboxlivepsokolovsky: I van now confirm that keyboard is working in Opie, also input form key-map.
13:41.40goxboxlivetsdogs: Also [fn] key is working. So i using the old inittab file where the problem. thx for solving this.
13:42.14tsdogsgoxboxlive: no prob.
13:42.33tsdogsI'm having serius trouble building opie-image though
13:42.45tsdogsI finally managed to get to the end
13:42.47goxboxliveIf you want you are very welcome to help us sorting other bugs out.
13:42.57goxboxlivetsdogs: WHat is the problem?
13:43.06tsdogswell, I'd love to.
13:43.21tsdogsThe problem is that in the roofs I have no glibc !????
13:43.49tsdogsthen the OE built the 2.6.19 kernel
13:44.03tsdogsBut this probably is a missing configuration file.
13:44.50tsdogsI really don't know how it could go all over the building when glibc and libc are missing.
13:45.18tsdogsfile tells me that the executables are dynamically linked
13:45.27goxboxlivehmm the kernel version is because it is set to use 2.6.19-hh13 in angstrom.conf
13:45.30tsdogstrying to do a bitbake glibc now
13:46.00tsdogsyep, but if I force it to be 2.6.20 then it complains about a missing defconf for htcuniversal
13:46.16goxboxliveYou can ovrride it by typing 2.6.20+cvs${now} instead
13:46.31goxboxlivethe glibc and libs i have no clue
13:46.50tsdogsok I will with this.
13:46.54goxboxliveWHat does your local.conf look like? Do you want to se how i am doing it?
13:46.59tsdogsIthink I found a couple of more bugs there too
13:47.23tsdogsI downloaded the one from xanadux cvs that cr2 updated few days ago
13:47.31tsdogsofcourse changed the paths
13:47.59goxboxliveok, so he has updated it.
13:48.13tsdogsyep, was 1 1/2 years old ..
13:48.17tsdogs:)
13:49.24tsdogsI also had a few FATAL QA errors while building. but doing a bitbake again it continued. Might this also be an issue?
13:49.43goxboxliveHere is mine, this one works: http://pastebin.ca/461017
13:50.07goxboxliveThe 1 1/2 years one where mine, i have done a lot to since then
13:50.43tsdogsok seems a little bit more complete.
13:51.09tsdogsshould I simply do a bitbake opie-image with the updated one ?
13:51.20goxboxliveyes
13:51.38goxboxliveIt doesnt mather what you start with.
13:51.42tsdogswhat about glibc?
13:51.58tsdogsthis is very strange to me.
13:52.30tsdogsAcutally now I did a bitbake glibc clean and bitbake glibc
13:52.40tsdogsdo_compile ...
13:53.52goxboxlivewith mine local.conf?
13:55.09goxboxlivewell, i'll bbl Have to pickup my child in kindergarten.
13:55.13tsdogsnot yet...
13:55.21tsdogsJust updated it now.
13:56.10psokolovskygoxboxlive: Hi! working with what settings?
13:56.48tsdogsbbl
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14:01.25tsdogs<psokolovsky> have a couple of bugs in OE (at least I think) with opie-image
14:02.23tsdogsBut first I'll try with goxboxlive config. and if they are still there I'll submit them
14:09.29psokolovskyok
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15:20.51tsdogs<psokolovsky>: I think I found another bug here. and this is defenatly there...
15:21.39tsdogsthe opie-mediaplayer2-skin-XXX misses a require ${PN}.inc at the beginning ...
15:25.02tsdogsnever mind. stupid thing here...
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16:07.14goxboxlivehi
16:08.24tsdogshi
16:08.45tsdogsgoxboxlive: I have a proble with opie-xx packages
16:08.57tsdogsthey seem not to be importing the opie.classbb
16:09.11goxboxlivewich one?
16:09.12tsdogsthe OPIE_CVS_PV results not defined.
16:09.25tsdogsactually the opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default
16:09.31tsdogsbut also the others...
16:09.39goxboxlivei know, ihave had the same myself.
16:09.47tsdogsok, solution?
16:10.01tsdogsor it is a broken OE?
16:10.05goxboxlivei hva ejust uncommented out PN stuff in its file
16:10.50tsdogsin every bb file?
16:10.51goxboxliveI am building form cvs, i guess u r also
16:10.51tsdogsyep using your config-
16:10.51goxboxliveno, in just the file it happends with
16:11.16tsdogsbtw is the 20071029 date correct?
16:11.42goxboxliveno, it was just to set it in the future :-)
16:12.14goxboxliveso it doesnt fill up my /sources everytime i build
16:12.15tsdogsso it is correct so to use cvs.
16:12.47tsdogsanyway there is no PN, but only PV in the bb file
16:13.01goxboxliveyes it will grab from cvs if the date isent avaiable
16:13.14tsdogsok, though so
16:13.25tsdogss/though/thought/
16:13.52goxboxliveu could also have used +cvs${i wamt the newest} if know what i mean
16:14.17tsdogsYou mean to remove the PV = ${OPIE_CVS_PV}
16:15.01goxboxlivehold on, i'll check my file. I am using opie now.
16:15.45tsdogsI've seen this bug in the irc logs of oe, dated 20060113 :(
16:15.51goxboxliveok
16:16.15tsdogsok removing the PV works.
16:16.29tsdogshow often do you update your OE environment?
16:16.46goxboxliveexactly, we should inform psokolovsky about it.
16:16.53tsdogsbbiaf
16:17.01goxboxlivebut he doesnt like that i am building opie form cvs
16:17.42goxboxlivecr2 are u here?
16:18.51goxboxlivetsdogs: I am updateing several times every day. At least one
16:19.19tsdogsopie-keytabs also.
16:19.32tsdogsdoesn't override the bbfiles?
16:19.40goxboxliveyes, i think it's 3 files
16:19.52goxboxliveno idea
16:20.01goxboxlivepsokolovsky are u here?
16:20.02tsdogsor should I edit them in my local conf
16:20.03tsdogs?
16:20.20goxboxlivei think we should fix it.
16:20.35goxboxlivesop other people are able to build too
16:21.06tsdogsdefenatly!
16:21.14tsdogsit's annoying.
16:21.28goxboxlivewlan has been working for over an hour now.
16:21.31goxboxliveyes
16:21.37tsdogsI'm trying to build a funcionin image for 1 week now :|
16:21.47tsdogsho, what speed?
16:22.01goxboxlivei had actually forgot about it. It's a while since i noticed it
16:22.03goxboxlive11
16:22.22tsdogsthis is great. BabelO work?
16:22.56goxboxlivekonq/E is failing when trying to build it. We should fix it so we could have a web browser again in Opie
16:23.25tsdogshow do you skip a package with bitbake?
16:23.58goxboxlivewhat do u mean, delete?
16:24.05goxboxliveor clean?
16:24.20psokolovskyhttp://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom - this is the only way to build opie with angstrom
16:24.22goxboxlivebitbake opie-blabla -cclean
16:24.24tsdogsnone. simply tell it you don't want that package
16:24.42tsdogs<psokolovsky> thanks
16:24.55goxboxlivepsokolovsky ok
16:25.05psokolovskychange anything besides what's written there - means you doing your own stuff, and fix your bugs yourself
16:25.23psokolovskyif we all will keep common ground, we will have working opie in some time
16:25.26goxboxlivepsokolovsky: konq/e isent building anymore, do yuo know whay?
16:25.37psokolovskyif each of us will play in own sandbox, it will die
16:25.41psokolovskysimple like that
16:25.51goxboxliveyes thats true
16:25.54bd2psokolovsky, amen.
16:26.26goxboxlivebut i like the cvs version. It looks better and works better
16:26.30psokolovskygoxboxlive: there're patches in bugtracker to build latest konq/e version. i didn't have chance to process them yet. feel free to try and reprot results in tracker.
16:26.31psokolovskybbl
16:26.56goxboxliveyes i will.
16:27.01psokolovskygoxboxlive: current opie version in OE *is* CVS version.
16:27.50goxboxliveok, then i can skip my hacks in local.conf
16:28.43goxboxlivetsdogs: are u familiar with QT?
16:29.13tsdogsnope. but can read some docs. why want me to develope something?
16:30.10goxboxlivewe should have updated our odevice_htc so we could have more support for universal in opie again
16:30.44goxboxlivelike automatic rotation, and the arrows/navigation keys
16:30.55goxboxliveand suspend from opie
16:31.15tsdogsok, I'll have a look at it, and see what I can do.
16:31.54tsdogsis there already a version to start with? or CVS?
16:32.00goxboxliveyes
16:32.22goxboxlivei'll sow you late bbl
16:47.33bd2psokolovsky, ping?
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17:13.21goxboxlivetsdogs: Here is the source for odevice : http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/opie/libopie2/opiecore/device/
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17:23.39goxboxlivehi BabelO
17:23.49BabelOhi goxboxlive
17:24.17BabelOi m recompiling opie2 with helix dbus and some  files from qtopia 4.2.1 who are missing
17:24.22goxboxliveBabelO: Could you bzip2 your include and lib and mail it to me?
17:24.33goxboxliveoh, where did you get them ?
17:25.22goxboxliveljp should commit them
17:25.26goxboxliveljp are you here?
17:26.18BabelOgoxboxlive: i download qtopia 4.2.1
17:26.53goxboxliveOk
17:57.59goxboxliveBabelO: Someone has made a new version of Konq/E. I am building it now.
17:58.17BabelOfor opie ?
17:58.26goxboxliveyes :-)
17:58.42BabelOiopie2 is compiling for me, i m waiting for error from yesturday
17:59.08goxboxlive:-) Well i cant even configure opie2 :-)
18:02.03goxboxliveahh it failed
18:03.23BabelOso qboot...cpp is coming from qtopia4.2.2 package ;)
18:07.01tsdogsgoxboxlive: opie-image builded.
18:07.13goxboxlivegood :-)
18:07.34tsdogsnow trying to build kernel, but when I do bitbake linux it complains about defconfig
18:07.53tsdogsyou got one for 2.6.20?
18:10.20BabelOgoxboxlive: where is you angstrom console image with dbus
18:10.39goxboxlivegnulinux.biz
18:11.53BabelOthx
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18:18.25cr2BabelO: 4.2.2 ? what is used in opie2 ?
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18:20.35BabelOcr2: it is this one, i look comit at opieII project
18:20.50BabelOor maybe 4.2.1
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18:24.25BabelOcr2: i m compiling, and make change needed, i m waiting for error :)
18:24.33BabelOmake -j 3 ...
18:24.47BabelOi use  MOSIX
18:24.54cr2ok, so i can just download 4.2.2 and get these files from there ?
18:25.02cr2you have many machines ?
18:25.16BabelOyes files are in src/libraries/qtopia
18:25.27cr2ok.
18:25.46BabelOcr2: yes only for this long week end ;) i open a vpn with my work and use some cpu ;)
18:25.53cr2i'm thinking about dissecting the greenphone stuff again.
18:26.03cr2:)
18:26.23cr2so we will recover this stuff as it was designed.
18:27.16BabelO:)
18:28.44cr2but i need to locate the exact binaries first.
18:30.20BabelOcr2: error from yesturday is at htcphoneharware class ? right ?
18:34.25cr2not only.
18:35.15cr2i've commented out the gnokii functions to proceed further.
18:35.22cr2the bool vs. int ? yes.
18:35.51BabelOyes, but i fix other with gnokii ;) i have found my gnokii repositorie for htc , so model = HTC
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18:41.07BabelOcr2: i have a question for touchscreen
18:41.33BabelOhow can i access tsc2200_read function in blueangel.c to know if pen is down ?
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19:02.51cr2BabelO: why do you need pen down in blueangel.c ?
19:03.37BabelOcr2: because of new adc driver
19:04.06BabelOthere is a .pen_gpio to pass to structure
19:04.32cr2is it a gpio ?
19:04.59BabelObut i pass gpio irq of tsc2200, it is bad because when backup battery read occurs i ve parasite ;)
19:05.04BabelOyes gpio
19:05.20cr2pxa gpio or asic3 gpio ?
19:05.46BabelOoups no it is not a gpio to know if pen is down, it is a read to tsc2200 register
19:06.06BabelOand if i include tsc2200.h in blueangel.c got declaration error
19:06.10cr2well, but then this abstraction will not work.
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19:08.17BabelObootaccessory contain Charger stuff now ;) i ve to modify that
19:12.12bd2cr2, so ts-adc-debounce needs optional "pendown" pin in additional to optional pendown gpio..?
19:12.29bd2this is doable
19:13.27BabelObd2: how can i do this ?
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19:23.24goxboxlivehi
19:23.46BabelOback goxboxlive :)
19:24.07goxboxliveBabelO did u try out your opie2 image?
19:24.22BabelOi don't find any angstrom-console image :( all have x11 or opie already in...
19:24.40BabelOis ts_* tools only for universal ?
19:24.47goxboxlivei have uploaded one
19:25.02goxboxliveno not that i know of
19:25.06BabelOor is tslib a special patch ?
19:25.22goxboxliveuniversal/sd-mmc/
19:25.46BabelOok, i don't understand so.. if i use magician image, touchscreen is good, but with your, got lot of problem .. :(
19:25.50BabelOthx
19:25.55goxboxliveno, i have done it like B its a copy of itA
19:26.12bd2BabelO, at optional pin to ts-adc-debounce..
19:26.13goxboxlives/B/BA/
19:26.26BabelOok goxboxlive
19:26.31bd2s/at/add/
19:27.22BabelObd2: ok, because i add touched detection in my tsc2200 adc driver, but not worked well
19:28.48BabelOgoxboxlive ;)
19:28.55BabelOdownloading
19:28.56bd2BabelO, I'm not sure that I fully understanding your tsc2200 case (you're developer ;-), but idealy adc driver should be dumb and simple, i.e. it should just "export" its pins to ADC API. and it's matter of ts-adc-debounce to be universal for any kind of ADC chip
19:29.33goxboxlivepsokolovsky: what is this rpath stuff? OE is not able to install it and make a ipk file of konqe2. It compiles so i guess everything shuold be ok
19:29.54BabelObd2: yes i understand but tsc2200 is used for keyboard and adc
19:30.01bd2i.e. if ADC does not provide "pendown" pin, it should fallback to pendown gpio not available, it should rely on Z1/Z2 fully
19:30.57BabelObd2: ok so i remove pen_gpio and try with out
19:31.06bd2BabelO, am I understood correctly, that you have *ADC* pin for "pendown" state?
19:31.10BabelOi say that because in old driver we use tsc2200 register to know if screen is touched
19:32.05bd2or you it's completely unrelated, and you just reading tsc2200 register?
19:32.27bd2-you
19:33.05bd2hehe.. anyway, it seems I'm more confusing you, not helping ;-) I should look into actual code firstly ;-)
19:33.08bd2sorry
19:33.17BabelO:)
19:33.51BabelOi look at actual code there is something like if (pen_gpio) then do something
19:36.25BabelObd2: ok i ll try without .pen_gpio
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19:39.10BabelObd2: is there a good solution to determine .pressure_factor min_pressure and max_jitter ?
19:40.56BabelObd2: ah long time , but i think i understand what you are saying ;)
19:41.28BabelOso yes i have an ADC bit for pendown state ;)
19:41.41BabelOit is not an external gpio or asic3 to cpu
19:43.50goxboxlivehmm acx is unstable when it get fully loaded
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20:01.07goxboxliveBabelO how is your new opie2 image working? is it still flashing?
20:02.37BabelOgoxboxlive: not yet compiled, i m building with helix now ;) to have a good player since BA have sound working
20:07.54goxboxlivecool
20:08.10goxboxlivewhat about gnokii?
20:08.43BabelOgot sms, phonebook working
20:09.13BabelObut have some htc specific message i don't understand
20:09.22goxboxlivealso thephone?
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20:10.30BabelOphone is only atdt and ath0 command nothing else
20:10.52BabelOCSQ for signal level
20:12.02goxboxliveok, i really need to let it configure on universal. Have to try it out.
20:12.27goxboxlivehas cr2 been able to compile it yet?
20:13.08BabelOi don't know :( maybe he is going to lunch
20:13.20goxboxlives/on/for/
20:13.57goxboxliveok
20:14.25goxboxliveBabelO why arent you adding htcphone to the source?
20:15.10BabelOi want to be sure it compile before
20:15.16goxboxliveljp are u here now?
20:15.23goxboxliveof course
20:15.25BabelOand after send a mail to ljp
20:15.40goxboxliveyes
20:15.41BabelO~ping ljp
20:15.46aptpong ljp
20:16.12goxboxlivewhat is this ping, try pinging me
20:16.30BabelO~ping goxboxlive
20:16.32aptpong goxboxlive
20:16.44goxboxliveok
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21:42.27cr2BabelO: dowloaded 4.2.2
21:43.57BabelOok, opie2 compile for me
21:44.15BabelObut a strange error in main.cpp with QBoot...cpp :(
21:44.23BabelOso i coment it out
21:46.03cr2which one ?
21:46.30BabelOline 441 in src/server/main.cpp
21:46.51BabelOi coment the whole "detect warm boot" lines
21:48.14BabelOi add #ifdef GNOKII insterad of coment line
21:51.12cr2time to document the greenphone gsm commands.
21:51.56cr2441 ?
21:52.25cr2yes, i've commented it out yesterday.
21:52.44BabelOline 436 to 455 :)
21:52.45BabelOok
21:53.03BabelOgot a problem with bluetooth too :(
21:53.20BabelOmissing something
21:53.50cr2QTOPIA_ANIMATED_SPLASH ?
21:53.57BabelOqbluetoothhsservice.cpp:(.text+0x240): undefined reference to `bt_sco_close(void*)'
21:54.01cr2i'm looking into the 4.2.2 source.
21:54.14BabelOyes only for demo they sayed
21:54.20cr2do we need sco ?
21:54.42BabelOi think yes for bt headset sound
21:54.49BabelOhow it works on universal ?
21:55.17cr2like it should work on openmoko phone.
21:55.25cr2i.e. different from ba/hima
21:55.38BabelOok
21:55.42cr2it's too difficult now.
21:56.48cr2AT*MCSQ=0
21:57.02BabelOsignal quality ?
21:59.24cr2probably.
21:59.39cr2do you know how to enable the c++ demangler in objdump ?
22:00.02cr2i've seen a good script in the openezx list archive.
22:00.58BabelOi don't know :(  only using it to see some information
22:01.15goxboxliveNow i dont understand a thing. I just tried out configure opie2 with -verbose on now it configured?
22:01.44goxboxliveno, it didnt, it failed at tslib again
22:02.06BabelOgoxboxlive: if you want i send my arm dir to you
22:02.20goxboxliveyes please
22:02.26cr2armliblsig is missing in the demo version.
22:04.04BabelOgoxboxlive: done :)
22:04.45cr2ok, it's a menu option. demangled names look better.
22:05.07goxboxliveBabelO: thx
22:08.09cr2arm-linux-objdump -T --demangle
22:08.50cr2goxboxlive: have you managed to get /dev/ttyUSB0 ?
22:09.00goxboxlivepastebin.co.uk/13606
22:09.11goxboxlivecr2: i havent tried
22:09.17goxboxlivelook at the botton
22:09.29goxboxlives/botton/bottom/
22:11.10cr2http://pastebin.co.uk/13606
22:12.34BabelOgoxboxlive: do you have libts.so in tmp/console/lib ?
22:12.34cr2do you have libts.so in /tmp/console/usr/lib ?
22:12.37BabelO;)
22:12.41cr2:)
22:13.18goxboxliveYes i tried out to use a console image as the L path
22:13.21BabelOi got this libts-0.0.so.0  libts-0.0.so.0.1.1  libts.la  libts.so
22:14.32cr2BabelO: which *.so are closed-source ?
22:14.40cr2ok, do you have libdial.so ?
22:15.22cr2sorry.
22:15.28cr2libdialing.so
22:16.57BabelOi ll look
22:17.44BabelOno
22:18.05cr2it probably makes sense to post the ls -laR of the dir where you have qpe.env
22:18.15cr2bin  help  lib  pics  plugins  qpe.env  qt_plugins  sounds
22:24.34BabelOlist file done
22:25.48BabelOmail sent file too big
22:26.13cr2ok.
22:27.39BabelOi understand why, i have some .svn directory ;)
22:28.53cr2comparing
22:30.12cr2libsimapp.so is missing
22:30.32BabelOyes normal sim application ;)
22:30.58cr2imho only athena has raw sim access. maybe universal, but with tricks.
22:32.41cr2multiplexors
22:33.12cr2it seems we don't need it on hima/ba. will see about universal.
22:33.20cr2probably needed on hermes.
22:33.53cr2you have libdialing.so
22:34.20BabelOoh ok ;)
22:34.35BabelOit is really strange, look that
22:34.43BabelOqtopiacore/target/bin/uic googleaccount.ui -o .ui/release-shared/ui_googleaccount.h
22:35.06cr2yes, i've seen something like that.
22:35.21cr2libqobex.so is missing
22:35.34cr2not really needed ;)
22:36.04BabelOgoogleaccount it is for CIA or NSA tracing
22:36.06BabelO:)
22:36.42cr2phonevendors/libhtcphonevedor.so
22:37.02cr2for old europe :)
22:37.38cr2so it's 3 libraries.
22:37.59cr2actually 2, because the sim toolkit hooks are in the vendor plugin.
22:38.30cr2vendor+simtoolkit+mux
22:39.20cr2if the api is not documented, we can create a wiki.
22:39.40BabelOhe he
22:40.06cr2mouse and keyboard handler are not interesting.
22:40.32cr2looking at the AT commands, this broadcom chipset looks extremely primitive.
22:40.53cr2even compared to TI.
22:41.08cr2i'm not even talking about hsdpa on athena.
22:41.42BabelOhsdpa, what it is ? like 3G but better ?
22:41.49cr2fast umts
22:41.54BabelOok
22:42.14cr2athena has some complex DPRAM to handle multiple channels.
22:43.07cr2looking at the binaries.
22:43.16BabelOok, on my sony ericsson phone i can call someone and use GPRS at same time
22:43.33BabelOon BA windows, i can't
22:43.43cr2htc phones all have class B
22:44.10cr2goxboxlive: can you talk while using umts data ?
22:44.25goxboxlivein wince yes
22:44.26cr2i think yes, because of the video phone
22:44.42cr2ok.
22:45.10BabelOgoxboxlive: is test ok with my directory ?
22:45.20cr2<PROTECTED>
22:45.30goxboxlivei dont notice if i am connected to 3G or gprs. Only speed are diffrent
22:45.38goxboxliveyes i knpw
22:45.50goxboxliveBabelO: No i had same failure
22:46.43goxboxliveBabelO: But now i hav done as i did last time, i made symlinks in the angstrom cross director instead of using codsourcery crosscompiler
22:47.09cr2phonebounce.sh
22:47.15goxboxliveIt says testing for dbus FAIL, bluetooth is disabled
22:47.22cr2phonenetworks
22:47.25cr2phonesettings
22:47.50cr2you have only 'phone'
22:47.58BabelOgoxboxlive: yes it looks for libdbus-1.so
22:48.13BabelOi make a symlink
22:48.15goxboxliveok, i'll change it right away
22:48.38cr2phonesettings is huge.
22:50.02cr2they are using telnetd and ftpd. lol
22:50.29BabelOhi simple thing
22:50.33cr2is qtmail capable of sll ?
22:50.42cr2s/sll/ssl/
22:50.45BabelOi think yes
22:50.59BabelObecause of openssl needed
22:51.28cr2ok.
22:52.03cr2do you have pics/Drm ? :D
22:52.33cr2is there a "defectivebydesign" icon ? we can put it there.
22:53.22BabelOdrm ? :' beurk
22:54.46cr2http://defectivebydesign.org
22:55.41goxboxliveBabelO: Now it configured. I had to change my crosscompiler
22:55.48cr2it's just a lame key. i've expected more fun.
22:56.16BabelOgoxboxlive: good
22:56.39goxboxliveBut still it cant find my libdbus-1.so
22:57.08BabelOstrange
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22:57.21BabelOyou specify -dbuspath ?
22:57.33goxboxliveBabelO : -dbus -dbuspath  /tmp/console/usr/lib/
22:57.54goxboxlivelinuxserver:/tmp/console/usr/lib# ls -la libdbus*
22:57.55goxboxlivelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     18 2007-04-28 01:43 libdbus-1.so -> libdbus-1.so.3.2.0
22:57.55goxboxlivelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     18 2007-04-26 23:28 libdbus-1.so.3 -> libdbus-1.so.3.2.0
22:57.55goxboxlive-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 151436 2007-04-05 23:03 libdbus-1.so.3.2.0
22:58.08BabelOyes missing symlink
22:58.17goxboxlive??
22:58.17BabelOah no sorry
22:58.36bodskihi there :)
22:59.17bodskido people use haret with wm2005 yet or is it still best to stick with 2003se? - i use a bluangel
22:59.29BabelOhi bodski
22:59.40BabelOharet is working on wm2005
22:59.46bodskiheh nice
23:00.05bodskisick of 2003se buggy wifi/bluetooth
23:00.13bodskion wince
23:00.26BabelOgoxboxlive: i understand
23:00.37BabelOgoxboxlive: you specify -dbuspath  /tmp/console/usr/lib/
23:00.41BabelOit is bad
23:00.48BabelOit is -dbuspath  /tmp/console/usr
23:01.17goxboxliveok
23:01.29BabelObodski: but 2003se have a nice bluetooth stack
23:01.41BabelO2005 is :(
23:02.08BabelOthe only thing usefull with w2005 is after reset you keep all your data :)
23:02.27cr2crazy.
23:02.32cr2QAtResultParser::lines(QString const&)
23:02.32bodskiahh
23:02.59BabelOcr2: what ?
23:03.03cr2QSimCommand::setHighPriority(bool)
23:03.06bodskiok - also heard 2005 is slower due to using rom for storage
23:03.14BabelOcr2: what do you do yesturday with itemcontrol.h ?
23:03.18cr2they parse at commands in c++
23:03.29cr2QSimCommand::setEcho(bool)
23:05.55cr2QPhoneVendorAt::abortDial(unsigned int, QPhoneCall::Scope)
23:06.07cr2BabelO: is this all undocumented ?
23:06.47BabelOall is depending on same class
23:07.10goxboxliveIs qbootsourceaccesory.cpp and h needed?
23:07.35BabelOgoxboxlive: yes i take it from qtopia 4.2.2
23:07.49goxboxliveWhere should i place it?
23:07.52cr2http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/qsimcommand.html
23:08.00goxboxlivethx
23:09.04BabelOgoxboxlive: src/libraries/qtopia/qbootsourceaccessory..*
23:09.15goxboxlivethx
23:09.42cr2http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.1/qphonevendorat.html
23:13.33goxboxliveJust wondering wich version of Qtopia are we using?
23:14.07cr24.2.2
23:14.15cr2libsimapp is just a gui.
23:14.34cr2sim toolkit is evil anyway.
23:14.40goxboxliveBut why is the file missing in svn and not in the tar.bz file?
23:15.12cr2opie2 is bigger than 4.2.2
23:15.19cr2i think
23:15.47cr2at least 4.2.2 has more stuff than what is provided for greenphone.
23:16.52tsdogsgoxboxlive: I finally managed to make my opie-image working... :)
23:17.33tsdogsThough busybox links to libgcc_s.so.1 :/
23:19.37goxboxlivetsdogs: Good
23:19.49cr2tsdogs: is it possible to compile a ramdisk in oe ?
23:20.03tsdogsStill strggling with opie2 he? :)
23:20.10goxboxlivecr2: no, i have checked
23:20.21tsdogss/strg/strug7
23:20.24cr2ok.
23:20.26tsdogss/strg/strug/
23:20.52cr2lol. greenphone has samba
23:20.59cr2like a780
23:21.07tsdogschecking...
23:21.12goxboxliveinird is posible, but it gets to big. When i boot it it says " You have 28M ram available but the image needs 32M"
23:21.21BabelOcr2: is there another lightweight solution than samba ?
23:22.52cr2BabelO: no, but installing samba on a phone is funny.
23:23.02cr2goxboxlive: why is it so big ?
23:23.15cr2can't you just install busybox there ?
23:23.40cr232M is huge. it#s full opie.
23:23.59tsdogsit's doing a rootfs so I think it works...
23:24.12goxboxlivecr2: It's only 7MB but when it is unzipped it is 32 or so
23:24.23BabelOcr2: and have apache on it, i want ;)
23:25.06tsdogscr2:is it using glibc or uclibc ?
23:26.01tsdogsapache with uclibc is small I done this before.
23:26.39tsdogsIs it possible to use KDE applets in opie as long as you know?
23:26.55goxboxliveBabelO: Will it fail when i do make ?
23:27.16goxboxliveIs there anything i can do to prevent it before i start make?
23:27.17cr2what is ls2101 samsung spi ?
23:27.29BabelOgoxboxlive: yes lot of time
23:27.34goxboxliveuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
23:27.35cr2it's lcd init. they are evil.
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23:28.07BabelOgoxboxlive: i block with itemcontrol.h now :(
23:28.48goxboxliveBabelO: Ok, why have this happend.It builded fine the first release
23:29.28goxboxliveNow it's just a complete mess. Why havent any of the opie2 developers fixed this
23:30.03goxboxlivewell, now i am tired, I just run make over night and check it tomorrow where it failed :-)
23:30.11goxboxlivegood night everyone
23:30.15BabelOgood night
23:31.27tsdogsnight
23:32.03BabelOcr2: you find something for boardid 6 ?
23:32.08goxboxlivecr2: I forgot to tell you. tsdogs fixed the keyboard, now symbols work in opie and the leyleds shuts down when the lcd shuts down.
23:32.53goxboxlivekey
23:32.53goxboxliveleds
23:33.27cr2ov9640 is also used on the greenphone
23:33.52BabelOgood for you :)
23:39.28cr22.4 kernel
23:39.55cr2must have doc g3 driver, btw.
23:40.04cr2but i don't see it.
23:40.11BabelOit is chips on BA too ?
23:40.16cr2yes.
23:40.32cr2and uses some spi init for the LCD.
23:40.49cr2you see how common is the BA implementation :)
23:41.35BabelOyes i see
23:42.52BabelOi try to pass building of itemcontrol :(
23:44.33cr2http://greenphone-wiki.org/index.php/Update_to_4.1.7
23:44.38cr2this is the trick.
23:44.51cr2doc g3 driver is in the ramdisk.
23:45.17cr2BabelO: it's better to bash ljp
23:45.28BabelOyes tffs.o driver
23:46.09BabelOyes maybe better
23:46.26cr2need to compare it with the tffs from a780
23:46.49cr2it's very painful to diassemble.
23:46.50BabelOobjdump works on module ?
23:46.55cr2yes.
23:47.23cr2module is a relocatable *.o
23:47.32BabelOok
23:53.16cr2BabelO: http://greenphone-wiki.org/index.php/Qtopia_open_source_4.2.0_on_Greenphone
23:54.21BabelOah that s what i m looking for this afternoon
23:54.24BabelO:)
23:54.51Kevin2Hi
23:55.08cr2When using configure with --use-phone-libraries, it ends up not finding libqtopiaphone and/or libqtopiaphonemodem.
23:55.19cr2maybe that's what we can misuse :)
23:55.23cr2hi Kevin2
23:55.28BabelOhi Kevin2
23:55.33Kevin2Hi cr2.  Any further progress on Hermes?
23:55.48cr2no.
23:56.10cr2Kevin2: which ramdisk are you using ?
23:56.42Kevin2My ramdisk is built from the "buildroot" project.
23:57.40Kevin2I then use a couple of scripts to package it all up into a single initramfs which I load instead of an initrd.
23:57.55cr2it is eabi ?
23:58.05cr2ok. so it's not an ext2 initrd.
23:58.27Kevin2I think it is eabi.  I haven't been able to rebuild recently, so I'm not entirely sure.
23:58.41Kevin2cr2: It loads via the initrd system, but it is a cpio.gz file.
23:58.59Kevin2(That is, I don't compile it into zimage, but it is still an initramfs.)
23:59.01cr2can you put the cpio.gz somewhere ?

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