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| 07:29.25 | goxboxlive | good morning pH5 |
| 07:29.43 | pH5 | good morning goxboxlive |
| 07:30.19 | goxboxlive | is it day off form work in Germany today, or is it a normal working day? |
| 07:32.04 | pH5 | normal working day. tomorrow is off. |
| 07:32.26 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 07:32.53 | goxboxlive | we have a day off today. |
| 07:32.58 | goxboxlive | also tomorrow |
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| 07:34.59 | pH5 | goxboxlive: now that's a long week-end :) |
| 07:35.10 | goxboxlive | :-) yes it is |
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| 07:43.42 | Speedy2 | cr2: Can you give me the models of the ATI chipsets you need info on? I misplaced the info |
| 07:49.49 | pH5 | Speedy2: probably w2282 for hermes and w2284 for athena |
| 07:50.34 | pH5 | and w3220 for roadster(hx4700) |
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| 07:50.40 | pH5 | do we have any other ati chipsets? |
| 07:50.42 | pH5 | hi cr2 |
| 07:51.03 | cr2 | hi pH5 Speedy2 |
| 07:51.15 | cr2 | ATI W2284 and W2282 |
| 07:52.44 | cr2 | pH5: i've hacked together a haret version with a full ATI register dump. can you run it on hx4700 ? |
| 07:53.02 | pH5 | sure. xanadux cvs? |
| 07:54.26 | cr2 | yes. compiled version at jornada820.sf.net/files/haret/dontuse.exe |
| 07:54.35 | cr2 | the command is "atidbg" |
| 07:55.09 | cr2 | some current blueangel setup values look strange to me. |
| 07:55.21 | cr2 | rob_w: do you have boardid 6 ? |
| 07:57.41 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
| 07:58.31 | rob_w | i had |
| 07:58.31 | rob_w | 5 |
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| 08:09.47 | pH5 | cr2: make: *** No rule to make target `gnuout/cpld.o', needed by `gnuout/gnuharet-200704051009.exe'. Stop. |
| 08:10.13 | pH5 | are we missing cpld.cpp in CVS or am I too dumb to cvs up? |
| 08:16.53 | pH5 | src/wince/irqchain.S:32: Error: selected processor does not support `blx r3' |
| 08:17.07 | pH5 | isn't it possible to compile xanadux gnu-haret with mingw32ce? |
| 08:17.37 | pH5 | I can't run that binary because for the hx4700 I need a haret.exe without the ril and gsm stuff. |
| 08:21.15 | pH5 | cr2: atidbg is just the hack in script.cpp? maybe I can implant that into upstream haret. |
| 08:25.50 | cr2 | ah, sorry. |
| 08:26.25 | cr2 | pH5: there are a lot of other commands that can be added to upstream haret, but i'm lazy. |
| 08:26.56 | cr2 | cpld.c is not really working, but i'll add it, so haret compiles. |
| 08:29.15 | pH5 | where do I get atiregaddr for ROADSTER? |
| 08:29.56 | cr2 | what is the ATI base address ? |
| 08:30.43 | cr2 | i'll look in the kernel source. |
| 08:32.57 | cr2 | added. |
| 08:33.26 | pH5 | hmm. what is the memVirtToPhys equivalent in mainline haret? |
| 08:34.33 | cr2 | for *asic ? it's not very important. on blueangel it's somewhere in the RAM. i hoped it was a "real" asic pointer |
| 08:34.42 | cr2 | you can drop it. |
| 08:36.31 | cr2 | what is still missing are the clock settings, because i didn't understand them completely for now. and on W228x it's even more complex. |
| 08:36.45 | pH5 | argh, it doesn't know memPhysMap either. |
| 08:37.06 | cr2 | because there are i2s and sd clocks too. |
| 08:37.09 | cr2 | hm. |
| 08:37.59 | cr2 | memPhysMap_wm ? |
| 08:38.01 | pH5 | missing include |
| 08:38.49 | cr2 | ok. |
| 08:39.44 | pH5 | oh, I just notice it has some atidbg already. s/atidbg/atidbg2/. let's see.. |
| 08:40.22 | goxboxlive | pH5: WHat do you mean by adding a defult file for universal in gsm like you did for magician? The one in OE today uses ttyS1 and universal use ttyS0 |
| 08:40.31 | goxboxlive | should i place it as a bug? |
| 08:41.56 | cr2 | goxboxlive: on hermes it will be ttySAC1 |
| 08:42.09 | pH5 | goxboxlive: we should place a bug for a package with common serial configuration in /etc/default |
| 08:42.28 | cr2 | that's a good idea. |
| 08:42.29 | pH5 | I'll just add a file for universal for now |
| 08:42.37 | goxboxlive | pH5/cr2: ok |
| 08:42.58 | goxboxlive | cr2: How about my touchscreen? Are you done :-) |
| 08:43.20 | goxboxlive | I amcleaning up OE, and placing bugs to make it clean as posible |
| 08:43.56 | cr2 | no :) but at least i've unleashed many bugs for ati support yesterday. |
| 08:44.21 | cr2 | cleaning oe is good. |
| 08:44.38 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 08:56.59 | pH5 | cr2: http://en.pastebin.ca/425151 |
| 08:58.06 | cr2 | thanks. |
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| 09:43.15 | goxboxlive | pH5: seems good, but i have noticed one thing. /etc/init.d/gsmd wouldnt start with ttyS0 if the line GSM_DEV="/dev/ttyS0" come after GSMD_OPTS="-s 115200 -F". To solve this i have just switced their position to let GSM_DEV="/dev/ttyS0" be listed first in the default file. Like this: http://pastebin.ca/425182 |
| 09:43.41 | goxboxlive | I know it doesnt make any sense, but after i did that i was able to start gsmd from the script file. |
| 09:46.19 | pH5 | this is exceptionally strange. can you investigate further what exactly fails? |
| 09:47.05 | goxboxlive | yes i can, not now, but later this evening. |
| 09:47.29 | goxboxlive | bbl |
| 09:50.08 | pH5 | cheers |
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| 11:37.14 | je | hmm. |
| 11:37.54 | je | is it possible to boot linux from an sd card for instance? |
| 11:38.22 | pH5 | yes. |
| 11:38.28 | pH5 | ~haret |
| 11:38.38 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, haret is HAndheld Reverse Engineering Toolkit, available at anoncvs@cvs.handhelds.org:/cvs/haret (CVS sources) or projectpage: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET |
| 11:39.07 | je | ok. does it boot automatically from the SD if it has a valid signature, or should i first enter the bootloader and then use some command to boot from SD? |
| 11:39.13 | je | i have a herald btw. |
| 11:41.01 | pH5 | uh-oh. herald is ti-omap? |
| 11:41.08 | je | yeah. :/ |
| 11:41.10 | je | bad? |
| 11:41.23 | cr2 | je: yes. |
| 11:41.41 | je | not possible to boot linux at all on that one? |
| 11:41.46 | cr2 | why people just don't buy himalaya or blueangel. |
| 11:41.49 | je | hehe. |
| 11:42.07 | cr2 | it's possible, but it will be useless for a long time, it seems. |
| 11:42.29 | je | ok, useless is in the eye of the beholder though. :> i'm not interested in using it as a phone. |
| 11:42.30 | cr2 | je: they are nice obsolete (=cheap) devices |
| 11:42.51 | je | i want to boot linux on it to get to the data stored in RAM, which is lost after a hardreset. |
| 11:43.04 | cr2 | touchscreen/keyboard? |
| 11:43.06 | je | e.g. the windows mobile settings, documents, etc. |
| 11:43.13 | je | serial connection is fine. |
| 11:43.20 | cr2 | look at the typhoon/wizard status. |
| 11:43.35 | cr2 | RAM? |
| 11:43.55 | je | yes. the "sort of" RAM that is used for storing customizations. |
| 11:44.14 | je | which is kept between normal reboots etc, including when using the bootloader. |
| 11:44.49 | je | not sure how it works exactly, but it's some battery backup:ed mem. not the normal RAM. |
| 11:45.43 | cr2 | you can dump any address range with haret, you don't really need linux for it. |
| 11:45.46 | cr2 | i2c ? |
| 11:45.51 | cr2 | spi ? |
| 11:45.58 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 11:46.11 | cr2 | hi psokolovsky_ |
| 11:46.27 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: is there any specific info regading what kind of issues blueangel has with acx100 driver? |
| 11:46.37 | je | ok. just thought linux would be convenient, since i'm used to developing under linux. :) hmm, i'll check out haret. |
| 11:46.52 | cr2 | it loads ok, but does not work ;) |
| 11:47.13 | cr2 | it's some general pcmcia-acx100 problem. |
| 11:47.38 | je | hmm. herald's not listed in the device support matrix. |
| 11:47.41 | je | (for haret) |
| 11:47.46 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: do you have dmesg dumps? |
| 11:47.56 | cr2 | je: does not matter. |
| 11:48.10 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: i'll look in the logs |
| 11:48.45 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: feel free to compare/add to this: http://bugzilla.handhelds.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1821 ;-) |
| 11:48.51 | je | cr2: ok. :) |
| 11:49.20 | psokolovsky_ | overall, this is really weird issue, which cab be very hard to overcome |
| 11:49.33 | je | hmm, is haret booted by using a wince .exe? |
| 11:49.48 | je | is there any way to boot it from SD without entering win? |
| 11:49.54 | cr2 | je: haret _is_ the bootloader |
| 11:50.04 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: i'll read it |
| 11:50.09 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: I also sent RFC for code deprecation, cc: you directly, so you was in loop regarding where hx4700_ts goes, and all its forks should follow ;-) |
| 11:50.39 | je | cr2: yeah, but it's á la loadlin according to the webpage? |
| 11:50.55 | je | e.g. you start it from win. |
| 11:52.13 | cr2 | je: yes. |
| 11:52.47 | je | and my question was, is there any way to boot it without entering win? :) |
| 11:53.08 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: yes, after checking. |
| 11:53.26 | je | would like to know if it would be usable for pda/smartphone forensics. |
| 11:53.37 | je | when you might not have the PIN etc and can't enter win. |
| 11:54.12 | cr2 | je: probably, read http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/index.html |
| 11:54.15 | je | the herald bootloader is pretty restricted btw. doesn't have r2sd etc for dumping the rom to SD etc. |
| 11:54.27 | je | cr2: oki. |
| 11:55.05 | je | ah. faking a diagnostic card signature, hehe. |
| 11:55.12 | je | seems interesting. |
| 11:57.15 | je | let's see if it works on my herald. |
| 12:07.02 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: gnerally, do you have an idea if pcmcia-ity can affect irq routing? |
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| 12:20.23 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: don't think so. the irq is on a gpio pin? |
| 12:20.32 | je | hmm. do i have to have the SD card's cardid to be able to make a bootable card? |
| 12:21.39 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: yep. on pxa gpio. btw, where's it on BA? and I also don't see how pcmcia can get into irq stuff |
| 12:24.03 | cr2 | pxagpio17. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelGPIO |
| 12:25.42 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: ok, it just missing from kernel header |
| 12:26.17 | cr2 | htcblueangel_acx.c does not look very good. |
| 12:28.24 | cr2 | it deals only with 1 power pin. |
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| 14:50.28 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 14:58.35 | cr2 | hi goxboxlive |
| 14:59.11 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: the gpio 107 is an artefact of the pxa27x trace code. |
| 14:59.38 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: but it detects something, right? |
| 14:59.48 | cr2 | no. |
| 15:00.16 | cr2 | gpio above 90 are just some stray event.s |
| 15:00.48 | cr2 | i get many of such on ba/hima which are pxa263. |
| 15:01.34 | cr2 | there is some correlation with the real gpios, but they are just that: "reserved". |
| 15:02.02 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: ok |
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| 15:03.49 | cr2 | 11 and 26 are timer0 and something else. it's a haret bug, actually, that they are "unknown" |
| 15:04.03 | cr2 | haret decodes the names only for pxa27x |
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| 15:09.15 | TW | hi, anyone know the difference from a htc universal and a htc innovation? |
| 15:12.07 | cr2 | TW: what is "innovation" ? |
| 15:12.50 | TW | i have a vodafone jasjar |
| 15:13.11 | TW | and under the battery there is htc innovation |
| 15:13.37 | TW | i'm trying to install linux |
| 15:13.42 | TW | but wifi doesn't work |
| 15:14.31 | TW | so i suppose that the hardware is not the same as universal |
| 15:16.36 | cr2 | jasjar is universal. "innovation" is some marketing junk. |
| 15:16.52 | cr2 | can you start wifi manually ? |
| 15:17.31 | cr2 | i don't know what the images are doing, recently there was a problem with wifi autostartup. |
| 15:18.10 | TW | now i'm downloading the new opie |
| 15:18.30 | TW | but the problem was that i can set wifi for card |
| 15:19.09 | pH5 | "Innovation" is now "Smart Mobility" - just a slogan |
| 15:19.26 | TW | but is a universal ? |
| 15:19.46 | pH5 | yes |
| 15:20.39 | TW | now i try to redo all |
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| 17:48.12 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 17:52.23 | ellisway | hi all whats the current status of the universal |
| 18:01.27 | goxboxlive | hi ellisway |
| 18:01.38 | goxboxlive | Whats the latest you heared |
| 18:01.55 | ellisway | bout 2 weeks back |
| 18:02.13 | goxboxlive | We have move backwards since then |
| 18:02.28 | ellisway | is last time i look at the forums and on the wiki |
| 18:02.30 | goxboxlive | We dont have a touchsscreen anymore, nand neither a power driver |
| 18:02.58 | ellisway | how come |
| 18:03.03 | goxboxlive | But, we have made openmoko-dialer work though |
| 18:03.20 | ellisway | last image i installed toucscreen was working fine |
| 18:03.23 | ellisway | coo |
| 18:03.27 | goxboxlive | There has veebn some updates in the source wich we havent followed up |
| 18:03.43 | goxboxlive | s/veebn/been |
| 18:03.47 | goxboxlive | s/veebn/been/ |
| 18:03.56 | ellisway | is there a current image with touchscreen and moko working |
| 18:04.14 | goxboxlive | no, there is no image at the moment, i have removed them |
| 18:04.24 | ellisway | k |
| 18:04.33 | goxboxlive | The latest tagged kernel source wich had a working TS is hh4. |
| 18:05.01 | goxboxlive | I am making a new one right now with working phone (still no mic though) |
| 18:05.17 | goxboxlive | I'll upload it when it's done, and after i have tested it. |
| 18:05.27 | ellisway | as soon as i can use the phone on a daily basis i`ll try and help out with getting gprs and umts working as i have data contract |
| 18:05.40 | goxboxlive | sounds goos |
| 18:05.48 | goxboxlive | s/goos/good/ |
| 18:06.40 | ellisway | its a shame i cant do much dev work on my a760 |
| 18:07.01 | goxboxlive | crying child, hold on |
| 18:09.17 | goxboxlive | a760 whats that? Same as A780? |
| 18:10.22 | ellisway | nope earlier |
| 18:10.37 | goxboxlive | ok, suplied with gps? |
| 18:10.43 | ellisway | was motorola 1st handset |
| 18:10.46 | ellisway | nope |
| 18:10.50 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:11.02 | goxboxlive | i have just bought a A780 |
| 18:11.19 | goxboxlive | Where never sold up here in Norway |
| 18:12.36 | ellisway | coo |
| 18:12.41 | ellisway | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4504156025.html |
| 18:13.09 | ellisway | teres some pics of the a760 on that page |
| 18:14.09 | goxboxlive | Yes i saw it |
| 18:15.53 | ellisway | when i got my universal i was thinking about getting either the a1200 or the a910 |
| 18:16.26 | ellisway | but a friend of mine also has a universal and convinced me to get it |
| 18:22.49 | goxboxlive | it's great device, the only lack is gps and a fully linux port to it :-) |
| 18:23.21 | ellisway | yeh |
| 18:23.36 | ellisway | but sounds like thats not that far away now |
| 18:24.16 | ellisway | gps can always be done via a bluetooth device |
| 18:24.25 | ellisway | or possibly a sdio memory card and gps unit in 1 |
| 18:25.08 | goxboxlive | i dont thinl we ever will have SDIO working |
| 18:25.09 | ellisway | has any1 played with the t mobile ameo yet |
| 18:25.24 | goxboxlive | ameo is that athena? |
| 18:25.31 | ellisway | i think so |
| 18:26.04 | goxboxlive | No i dont think so, but i knpw cr2 has allrady made some driver for it, but i dont think anyone has tried to boot it hey |
| 18:26.13 | goxboxlive | s/hey/yet/ |
| 18:26.33 | ellisway | k |
| 18:26.54 | goxboxlive | I was thinking about getting me one, but it is too exopensive |
| 18:27.07 | goxboxlive | Soo i buoght i A780 instead |
| 18:27.16 | ellisway | a friend of mine as a imaya and a wiard and another friend of mine has a ermes |
| 18:27.38 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:27.41 | ellisway | grr dodgy keyboard |
| 18:27.45 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 18:28.04 | ellisway | himalaya and wizard |
| 18:28.21 | ellisway | and the other friend has a hermes |
| 18:29.26 | goxboxlive | ok, i think cr2 are making some progress with hermes this days. He was talking about some debugging of ATI chipset |
| 18:29.44 | ellisway | coo |
| 18:34.46 | goxboxlive | well it's dinner time. bbl |
| 18:36.28 | cr2 | ellisway: i'm trying to boot himalaya now |
| 18:36.53 | cr2 | but the kernel is very buggy and the code is bitrotten to no end ;) |
| 18:37.06 | ellisway | k |
| 18:37.41 | cr2 | athena aka t-mob ameo will work, i've done a lot of research, but there are some tough thing there. |
| 18:38.07 | cr2 | the best linux device will be universal. |
| 18:38.26 | cr2 | here we have a good chance to support all the hardware. |
| 18:38.37 | ellisway | coo |
| 18:38.50 | cr2 | SDIO driver for linux exists, just not for the asic3 sdio host. |
| 18:39.13 | cr2 | it should not be _that_ difficult to write one. |
| 18:39.23 | ellisway | coo |
| 18:39.25 | cr2 | just don#t hope i'll do everything :) |
| 18:39.47 | cr2 | so if somebody will work on it, i can help. |
| 18:40.21 | ellisway | if only i had more coding skills i would help |
| 18:40.36 | cr2 | hermes still does not boot, so i'm working on the ati fb driver. |
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| 19:45.58 | cr2 | himalaya boots, because i can see it with 'lsusb' but the LCD is still screwed. |
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| 20:10.06 | cr2 | it works with mainline haret, but the refresh rate is too low. hmm, ati clock analysis is unavoidable. |
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| 21:53.06 | cr2 | pH5: are you here ? |
| 21:55.03 | goxboxlive | cr2: Havent Himalaya allways booted, Wasent there some guys a couple of months ago who played with it using opie image for universal? |
| 21:56.19 | cr2 | there are 2 boardids with different LCDs. |
| 21:56.26 | cr2 | like on the blueangel. |
| 21:56.49 | cr2 | i'm surprised ba and hima work at all :) |
| 21:56.50 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 21:57.11 | cr2 | the 80MHz clock used by wince is commented out in w100fb.c |
| 21:57.35 | goxboxlive | k |
| 21:58.18 | cr2 | there are some other minor bugs. |
| 21:58.51 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:59.36 | cr2 | oh. interesting. |
| 21:59.47 | goxboxlive | what |
| 22:02.00 | cr2 | hima and ba have some differences in the pll setup. the w100fb driver can't do something like that at all. |
| 22:02.10 | cr2 | preparing to blow up hima LCD :) |
| 22:02.21 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 22:02.42 | cr2 | with pxafb everything is so simple :) and so slow :) |
| 22:03.07 | goxboxlive | realy |
| 22:03.15 | cr2 | hahaha. |
| 22:03.22 | cr2 | now it does not work at all. |
| 22:03.46 | goxboxlive | :) |
| 22:04.52 | cr2 | the screen is completely white. |
| 22:05.53 | goxboxlive | cr2: The same thing happens on universal with gnu-haret |
| 22:06.23 | goxboxlive | but it turns normal again after a couple of seconds |
| 22:07.42 | cr2 | it may be an unfriendly shutdown at startup. |
| 22:08.16 | goxboxlive | doesnt happend with kevins haret version |
| 22:09.21 | cr2 | he does not shutdown the LCD. |
| 22:09.28 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:11.15 | cr2 | ah. it's a copy/paste bug ;) |
| 22:11.29 | goxboxlive | often it is |
| 22:11.38 | cr2 | hehe. |
| 22:11.55 | cr2 | recompiling. |
| 22:13.14 | cr2 | i want a common image. |
| 22:13.21 | cr2 | for 3(4) phones. |
| 22:14.03 | pH5 | hey cr2. so now you're already fixing bugs in w100fb? |
| 22:14.13 | cr2 | pH5: yes. |
| 22:14.29 | goxboxlive | I tried to build without any kernel but it forced a 2.6 kernel in to the image. Dont know why |
| 22:14.30 | cr2 | not in the w100fb itself, but in the setup. |
| 22:14.44 | cr2 | pH5: we need to adapt your image for 3 phones. |
| 22:15.27 | pH5 | very nice. |
| 22:15.37 | pH5 | cr2: all pxa, right. |
| 22:15.39 | cr2 | yes, now the divisor is 15, like in wince. very nice. |
| 22:16.06 | cr2 | pH5: moko for htc 240x320 phone with ti phone. |
| 22:16.40 | cr2 | not vga and not MSM-umts |
| 22:18.05 | pH5 | ok, so basically we need an image minus the modules and some more runtime configuration (gsm tty). |
| 22:18.15 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:18.37 | cr2 | zimage+initramfs. |
| 22:18.43 | cr2 | sclk: sysclk_src=1 sysclk_div: fast=0 slow=1 |
| 22:18.52 | cr2 | this is a dark corner of w100fb |
| 22:19.05 | cr2 | in w100fb fast=slow. |
| 22:20.25 | cr2 | with the current BA/hima setup i'm surprised it was working at all :) |
| 22:21.20 | pH5 | heh. the old "don't touch it, maybe it'll continue to work" approach. |
| 22:21.27 | cr2 | wow. |
| 22:21.32 | cr2 | it works now :) |
| 22:22.14 | cr2 | need to demoronize ba setup for board 0x5 |
| 22:23.02 | cr2 | XScale DSP coprocessor detected |
| 22:23.05 | cr2 | wtf is that ? |
| 22:24.55 | pH5 | marketing fluff? |
| 22:25.07 | cr2 | kernel message. |
| 22:27.05 | pH5 | pxa255 and 26x seem to have a 40-bit accumulator and eight "dsp-oriented instructions" to operate on that. |
| 22:27.07 | pH5 | http://www.bdti.com/procsum/pxa255.htm |
| 22:27.20 | cr2 | pH5: i'd like to have 2 zimages, with and without the ramdisk. |
| 22:27.22 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:37.24 | goxboxlive | cr2: why is a initramfs so much bether than a regular image? If there is some update to the kernel you will have to install updated modules to the initramfs anyway right? |
| 22:38.25 | goxboxlive | once i made a console image with initramfs, but i couldnt see the benfit |
| 22:40.12 | cr2 | it can be built simulataneously with the kernel, and then i can use the same SD image with multiple zimages on different phones. |
| 22:42.29 | goxboxlive | k |
| 22:42.44 | cr2 | i compile a zimage.ba and zimage.hima |
| 22:43.07 | cr2 | take the SD image of pH5 for magician and run my phone(s) |
| 22:43.21 | cr2 | need to adapt the default.txt though |
| 22:43.41 | cr2 | but we can do it more user-friendly too. |
| 22:45.41 | goxboxlive | ok, so actually when you compile the kernel for hima and BA you install their modules to the same image? |
| 22:46.10 | cr2 | initramfs is linked into zimage |
| 22:46.17 | cr2 | it's 1 file. |
| 22:46.46 | cr2 | ramdisk is more flexible, but less userfriendly. |
| 22:47.10 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:47.11 | cr2 | because you have 2 file, and the modules in the 2nd file must match the 1 file. |
| 22:47.57 | cr2 | did you compile a static kernel ? |
| 22:48.08 | goxboxlive | no |
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| 22:48.24 | cr2 | it will be big and fat. |
| 22:48.36 | goxboxlive | i didnt look in to since you said it wasent good |
| 22:48.57 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky told me that magician where about to use it |
| 22:50.51 | cr2 | it maybe not good for me, but is good for the distribution. |
| 22:51.28 | cr2 | it wastes RAM for unused modules, and is not nice from the general kernel design. |
| 22:51.41 | pH5 | static images are only good for lazy packagers. |
| 22:51.48 | pH5 | s/images/kernels/ |
| 22:52.14 | goxboxlive | so pH5 you arent moving over to use it? |
| 22:52.38 | psokolovsky | don't misinterpret my words. I told that magician already has defconfigman support. defconfigman allows to build any kernel configurations - be that fully static or fully modular, and what's important, consistent for all devices |
| 22:52.40 | cr2 | pH5: but they will keep this burden from us. |
| 22:52.55 | cr2 | acceptable price for some RAM. |
| 22:53.59 | cr2 | psokolovsky: i'll believe in a working modular when asic3_base will work as an autoloaded module :) |
| 22:54.15 | pH5 | ah, we're allowed to dream, right :) |
| 22:55.23 | psokolovsky | cr2: there's no point to believe, there's need to move towards that. in this respect, consistent configuration for all devices (like every defice has NFS support, and every device has TS driver modular) is a first step towards that |
| 22:57.20 | cr2 | psokolovsky: i know that modular asic3_base will break a lot of buggy modules-child devices. |
| 22:57.35 | cr2 | but now i'm after much more lowlevel stuff. |
| 22:57.45 | cr2 | like missing w100fb modelines |
| 22:58.02 | psokolovsky | yep, all this should be done gradually |
| 23:05.14 | goxboxlive | *test |
| 23:05.24 | goxboxlive | how do they make such messages |
| 23:05.37 | goxboxlive | ~msg test |
| 23:06.13 | goxboxlive | apt msg |
| 23:06.22 | apt | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. ... |
| 23:06.23 | goxboxlive | ~apt msg |
| 23:06.25 | apt | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. ... |
| 23:06.25 | goxboxlive | !help |
| 23:07.13 | goxboxlive | ~wheater |
| 23:08.37 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky: wasent meant to, but that's how i understood it. |
| 23:08.41 | goxboxlive | sorry |
| 23:09.59 | cr2 | psokolovsky: what can we do about pxa2xx-pcmcia-acx100 ? |
| 23:10.52 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive: you likely meant "/me wants do such msgs" |
| 23:11.16 | psokolovsky | cr2: not sure we need it. what would it contain? |
| 23:12.09 | goxboxlive | ahhh :-) voila |
| 23:12.21 | cr2 | i mean, there are no devices with working acx100 in the pcmcia interface address range. |
| 23:12.34 | cr2 | is it true ? |
| 23:13.38 | psokolovsky | cr2: yes, it appears to be true, if 2 cases are enough ;-) (in this regard, BA's log would be very helpful) |
| 23:15.18 | psokolovsky | cr2: I cried to Bill Reese for help, let's hope he'll have some ideas |
| 23:16.01 | cr2 | ok, i'll try to fix the blueangel_acx and run it here. |
| 23:16.27 | psokolovsky | thanks, good idea |
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| 23:54.06 | goxboxlive | man it's getting late |
| 23:56.09 | Kevin2 | Hi |