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02:13.40*** topic/#htc-linux is HTC Linux Channel: Find logs at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ | please check http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | <cr2> let's define a common setup.
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04:23.54Kevin2@#%@%  The bastards!  They've locked down TLBs!!
04:29.08Kevin2Hrmm.   Read that wrong.  No TLBs appear to be locked down.
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11:58.56_law_hi all
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13:16.46hollohi.. i have done some searches of linux and my htc 4350 phone.. and would like to setup a connection between my debian dist and my phone.. does anyone know about this? or can direct my to any documentation?
13:18.02anYc"a connection" ?
13:18.34alsurenhollo: you want to sync windows with evolution or kontact or something?
13:18.42holloanYc, yeh.. my goal is to send sms from my computer..
13:19.53holloalsuren, so not really sync my calendar.. that is already done by the phone online..
13:21.27anYchint: this is a channel for people who try to run linux on a htc ;)
13:22.42anYci don't know actually how to send sms from pc over a pda.
13:22.44hollookay.. well maybe someone had some experience before they formated the preinstalled htc disk
13:26.31alsurenhollo: have you searched in xda-developers.com?
13:32.23pH5hollo: there is some program on those wince devices that makes them act just like a modem connected via either usb-serial or bluetooth. just use that and send sms via AT commands.
13:34.31hollopH5, hm.. sorry but what is at comand? i only know at as a time shedule program
13:36.42hollopH5, hmm.. think i found a page with some information about this.. then you know any software which i can send sms through a modem? just so i easilier can make my searches.
13:38.31pH5apt-cache search sms: gnokii, smsclient, smssend, smstools
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13:50.56TBBlepH5: Built current Haret CVS, but just dropping it in to replace the haret in your magician setup didn't work. Was that haret patched at all, or has stuff just moved on since then?
13:52.04pH5TBBle: should work. just be sure to replace "boot2" (gnu-haret) with "bootlinux" (mainline haret)
13:52.25TBBleAh, that'd prolly do it.
13:52.35pH5(the patched version is on xanadux.sf.net)
13:52.51TBBleI've been wondering. What's gnu-haret VS mainline haret?
13:54.53pH5gnu-haret is a fork from the time before mainline haret could be compiled with gcc. it has many debugging features - sort of a hacker's playground.
13:55.14TBBleAh, OK.
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13:56.17TBBleBeh. Despite time passing, I still get "Maybe USB cable is bad" coming out of kernel when I plug in the phone with g_ether modprobed. I'm pretty sure the cable's good, I can use synce to copy files over etc.
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14:12.53Kevin2Hi
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14:18.07_law_cr2: did you get my hk.exe?
14:18.30_law_s/hk.exe/nk.exe
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15:21.13cr2_law_: yes, i have already added the table to xda-dev wiki
15:21.44_law_cr2: ok thanks so this could help me boot linux with haret? ;-)
15:22.17cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TornadoMemoryMap
15:22.44cr2hmm. only Kevin2 can help you :)
15:43.10Kevin2_law_: You can try http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070325.exe -- it will show some early boot messages on console now.
15:43.47Kevin2However, I think the problem is that some hardware device is probably not being shutdown.  The current OMAP code is just a stub.  Someone will likely need to go through and make sure all DMA is off, etc.
15:51.47cr2Kevin2: there were omap patches for haret, and it was working some time ago.
15:53.04cr2the sources are here http://chac.le-poulpe.net/~nico/tornado
15:53.16Kevin2cr2: It was working in mainline?  Mainline has never had any OMAP specific shutdown - but that might be fine for many pdas.
15:53.30cr2http://chac.le-poulpe.net/~nico/tornado/dl
15:53.47cr2hmm, yes, it was the patched mainline code
15:54.14cr2as of 25.05.2006
15:55.10_law_Kevin2: ok thanks i?ll try
15:56.02Kevin2Yeah, I've looked at the tornado haret a bunch of times.  It doesn't do any kind of hardware shutdown, however.
15:58.20cr2it sets 0x10000000 as RAMDADDR. ok. btw what machine id has tornado ?
15:59.45cr2902  Tornado  omap_tornado
15:59.55cr2is it a right one ?
16:04.17cr2i doubt that it is used ;-)
16:04.43Kevin2uint32 bootMachineType = 491; // MACH_OMAP_PERSEUS2
16:04.52Kevin2That's from haret-tornado
16:06.03cr2heh.
16:06.45cr2to be honest, i don't want to step into this omap mess :)
16:07.02cr2btw, does it have something to do with your driver ?
16:07.03cr2http://blackfin.uclinux.org/pipermail/linux-kernel-commits/2007-January/000064.html
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16:12.29Kevin2I just compared tornado-haret to mainline from 20050101.  The only difference is the tornado haret doesn't do pxa specific hardware shutdown and it has a whole bunch of code to write to the framebuffer.
16:12.35Kevin2So, current mainline haret should be equivalent.
16:12.56cr2ok.
16:13.57cr2omap code is not really in hh.org so it's difficult to change something.
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16:23.23_law_Kevin2: framebuffer works but the font is very small :-). but the tornado also shutsdown
16:24.14cr2_law_: does it boot ?
16:24.43_law_cr2: no :-(
16:25.15_law_but i ?ll try to build a new 2.6.20-omap1 kernel
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17:11.41psokolovsky__Kevin2, Hi! Did you have chance to test adc classdev?
17:15.29Kevin2psokolovsky__: No, not yet.  I need to reformat my apache microsd card - I haven't gotten around to it yet.
17:16.34psokolovsky__Kevin2, ok, I'd like to commit it per previous proposal though, to not create stalls for bd2 and me. I'll tag before and after commit, so we could test it easier in case of issues
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17:35.28goxboxlivecr2 are you there
17:36.58goxboxliveI think we only should consentrate on Openmoko. It seem like Openmoko is the only GUI that is beeing worked on
17:37.32goxboxliveOpie is not a theme, it will never have phone support
17:37.51goxboxliveGpe is allmost the same as Openmoko
17:38.58goxboxliveOpie2 where released for over three months ago, but there are too few people working on it. There hasent been any source update for a long time now
17:40.38goxboxliveGpephone doesnt have vga support, and why make vga support when Openmoko is allmost the same GUI evn.
17:42.25the_sys0pgoxboxlive: How is OpenMoko on a non-VGA screen?  Is it usable still?
17:42.25goxboxliveAnd last, openmoko. There are a lot of developers out there wich are working with the source daily. There are source update allmost every day and i think this will be the most userfriendly one.
17:42.58goxboxlivethe_sys0p: Last time i tried it on my A780 it didnt look good.
17:43.29goxboxliveI am talking about GUI env. on HTC Universal, it has vga screen
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17:43.45the_sys0pAh, gotcha.
17:45.01cr2goxboxlive: ok, it seems reasonable. what should i change in the host.conf to compile openmoko ?
17:45.21goxboxlivenothing
17:45.24goxboxlivejust build
17:45.37cr2if the moko widget API stable now ?
17:45.47cr2bitbake openmoko ?
17:46.20goxboxlivebitbake openmoko-devel-image
17:46.29goxboxlivedevel-image is with a x-termonal
17:46.37cr2ok, i'll try.
17:47.28goxboxlivein the source of libgsm and gsmd you can change a couple of files to let it talk to our modem
17:48.33goxboxlivegsmd.c and usock.c
17:48.36cr2can ?
17:49.08cr2pH5 has some special config afaik
17:49.21goxboxliveI know, i made the same in OE
17:49.32goxboxliveBut havent added it to the repo yet
17:49.42cr2ok.
17:52.07goxboxliveadd a folder htcuniversal and copy the default file from pH5 magician folder and change it to be as in universal
17:52.50goxboxlivein oe.dev/packages/gsm/files/htcuniversal
17:53.06cr2compiling "as is" at first.
17:53.40goxboxlivehttp://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gsm/files
17:53.42goxboxliveok
17:54.21goxboxlivei think you have to add htcuniversal folder, otherwise gsnd wouldnt build. But try first without
17:57.00cr2it compiles a lot of crypto packages :)
17:58.49cr2bbl
18:02.28goxboxlivepH5 are you here?
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18:11.29pH5hi, I am.
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18:16.35anYcwhat means "kernel line discipline"?
18:17.42pH5anYc: it's a layer that sits between serial drivers and the kernel tty interface.
18:19.45pH5on magician/blueangel/alpine/apache the modem has multiple channels on a single UART via simple multiplexing.
18:20.30pH5a simple ldisc could be used to drop everything but the AT command channel.
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18:43.57anYcokay, and what is the benefit?
18:58.54pH5anYc: I don't have to patch gsmd to do the demultiplexing and I can talk to the modem with any terminal program.
19:03.59cr2NOTE: package xcalibrateext-0.0+git20060814-r0: task do_fetch: started
19:03.59cr2Failed to run command 'pull': Permission denied
20:00.24cr2Kevin2: want to see wince 'dmesg' on hermes ? run "pd 0x30500000 0x1000" it's about 100K on my hermes.
20:01.17pofcr2: nice , i just read your pm :)
20:05.51cr2pof: WLAN Ref Freq is 19.2MHz
20:06.56cr2WLAN RadioType=1b WLAN CountryID=0x30
20:10.51cr2g_pATIHWContext=0x786eb0 pHCContext=7872d0
20:16.23cr2S5K3BAFB CAMERA: Vendor ID: 0xab SW Version: 0x01 Chip ID: 0xd0 Chip Version: 0x81 Sensor producID: ab
20:22.01cr2Start_SDI_Clock - Requested Rate: 100000, Setting clock rate to 185546 Hz
20:22.09cr2very close match.
20:28.40cr2byMainCpldVersion=5 bySwitchCpldVersion1=4 HWBoardVersion=6 GetModelName- 72,69, Name is HERM200
20:43.14cr2pH5: i always forget, what is BCC ? BGT ?
20:46.22pofBCC - Branch if Carry Clear ; BGT - Branch if Greater Than
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20:48.28cr2pof: is it the same ?
20:48.51cr2when you compare, who sets the "carry"
20:49.37cr2hm. depending on the board version, they use different hardware.
20:52.11goxboxlivecr2: DId you build moko successfully?
20:57.16cr2no.
20:57.38cr2NOTE: package xcalibrateext-0.0+git20060814: started
20:57.38cr2NOTE: package xcalibrateext-0.0+git20060814-r0: task do_fetch: started
20:57.39cr2Failed to run command 'pull': Permission denied
20:58.15goxboxlivehmm strange
20:58.38cr2git pull git://anongit.freedesktop.org/xorg/proto/calibrateproto failed
21:01.20goxboxliveok, get the source from som other place manually. Put it in your source folder and make a md5 file of it. The try to rebuild  xcalibrateext
21:03.14goxboxlivepaul has tagged hh4 now
21:03.31goxboxlivewounder if it compiles for uni. Trying it out now
21:04.45cr2ok.
21:06.11goxboxliveyes i compiled
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21:25.45pH5cr2: bcc is a bit unintuitive. I always forget that, too :)
21:27.59cr2AT+CHZ , what's that ?
21:29.19pH5Hmm.. never heard of that.
21:33.28cr2AT+HSDPA
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