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| 10:58.39 | dspstv | could someone guide me on the first steps to install linux on my blueangel |
| 10:59.00 | dspstv | im trying to ssh into it |
| 10:59.07 | dspstv | but get a: |
| 10:59.16 | dspstv | ssh: connect to host 192.168.206.206 port 22: Connection refused |
| 10:59.39 | dspstv | the device has still winblowsCE |
| 10:59.56 | Fossi | that doesn't run sshd naturally |
| 11:00.05 | dspstv | sure |
| 11:00.05 | Fossi | so you can't ssh onto it |
| 11:00.08 | dspstv | sure |
| 11:00.35 | Fossi | afaik there are loads of tutorial pages on the wiki and such |
| 11:00.45 | dspstv | Fossi, i dont seem to find neither in the ma archives or in the wiki how to get pass this basic step |
| 11:00.52 | Fossi | i'd guess you would need to run a linux kernel first |
| 11:00.53 | dspstv | well lots |
| 11:01.37 | dspstv | I guess its quite obvous i need some little help |
| 11:01.53 | dspstv | is fine if i have to continue by myself |
| 11:03.15 | dspstv | Fossi, as far as i understand to run a linux kernel i have to become root in the device an format the SD card |
| 11:03.20 | dspstv | so, |
| 11:03.29 | dspstv | how can one become root |
| 11:03.47 | dspstv | if the device has winblows still on |
| 11:04.07 | Fossi | you need to start a linux kernel |
| 11:04.26 | dspstv | definetively |
| 11:04.40 | Fossi | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelKernel seems to detail how to do it, but i can't say anything whether it works or not |
| 11:04.50 | dspstv | ok |
| 11:04.56 | dspstv | i will follow that link |
| 11:05.24 | dspstv | i trully got lost in that forum, many posts and your are always pretty uncertain about what to follow |
| 11:05.47 | Fossi | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=236870 is a discussion |
| 11:06.22 | Fossi | i'm just throwing out what i found with a quick look through, so it might be outdated etc :) |
| 11:06.30 | dspstv | that thread i know since 2 years that i wanted to install linux on this device |
| 11:06.48 | dspstv | it get ultra technical.. almost a show off |
| 11:07.06 | Fossi | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel |
| 11:07.09 | Fossi | also |
| 11:07.28 | Fossi | dspstv: well, that's the state of linux on mobile devices more or less |
| 11:07.46 | Fossi | reverse engineering is highly technical ;) |
| 11:08.58 | Fossi | i think to put stuff on a SD card you need a reader outside the phone so far |
| 11:10.00 | Fossi | or not. don't really know. i'd be happy if my phone was working at all ;) |
| 11:14.53 | dspstv | i understand it get so hardcore, but to get more people to use and report things have to be bit more friendly |
| 11:15.02 | dspstv | the wiki you helped me find |
| 11:15.26 | dspstv | is still unclear about where and how to install the 6 basic filez to boot linux |
| 11:15.27 | dspstv | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelKernel |
| 11:15.42 | dspstv | i will be happy to make it clear for people like me |
| 11:16.18 | dspstv | even translate |
| 11:17.39 | Fossi | well, my major point is, if you are unsure how to handle linux or are lost at what to do, it's prolly not yet in a usable state for you :) |
| 11:18.14 | Fossi | it's not like it doesn't aim to be userfriendly. it's just not there yet and needs some tinkering |
| 11:19.05 | Fossi | that being set, i think haret wants to be at /Storage/haret or such, but it tells you when you try to start it |
| 11:19.21 | sadeness_ | sometimes you need just a spot of light to get clear. |
| 11:19.55 | Fossi | best is to backup and try imho :) |
| 11:20.21 | dspstv | i use linux since 4 years now, i guess i can manage to install those 6 filez |
| 11:20.25 | dspstv | im not a pro |
| 11:20.31 | dspstv | and dont expect to be |
| 11:20.55 | Fossi | those files are to be installed under windows |
| 11:21.15 | dspstv | yes, in the SD card |
| 11:21.21 | Fossi | if you start them, it kicks windows out and boots linux |
| 11:21.26 | dspstv | but why is not documented where |
| 11:21.40 | dspstv | i mean, is so obvious? |
| 11:21.54 | Fossi | if you have a bootimage that's bigger than your device's memory, you need to put it onto an SD card, yes |
| 11:21.54 | dspstv | im a newbe thats more than clear |
| 11:22.04 | dspstv | ok |
| 11:22.17 | Fossi | otherwise somewhere #on the phone is sufficient |
| 11:22.34 | dspstv | tx Fossi, im making the backup now |
| 11:23.06 | Fossi | 'somewhere' is quite configurable and haret tells you if it has another location build in |
| 11:23.22 | dspstv | i will try |
| 11:24.26 | dspstv | tx again for your time and patience, i wont stop bugging a bit, anyway here is so silent.. |
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| 11:25.26 | goxboxlive | good day |
| 11:25.32 | Fossi | i'm out for lunch now, but asking questions is always ok. might just go unanswered when people are busy :) |
| 11:25.34 | dspstv | buenos dias |
| 11:25.48 | dspstv | bon apetite |
| 11:26.25 | Fossi | thanks and good luck |
| 11:35.14 | sadeness_ | does anybody know is there people who working on "HTC Prophet" port? |
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| 12:28.14 | Fossi | sadeness_: i have a prophet |
| 12:28.25 | Fossi | we usually hang out in #linwizard |
| 12:28.37 | Fossi | because the hardware is similar |
| 12:28.47 | Fossi | but there hasn't been much development in the last couple of weeks |
| 12:29.30 | sadeness_ | so, what if I want to join? |
| 12:30.19 | Fossi | you do :) |
| 12:30.55 | Fossi | there's a hg repository wizmaui can give you access to |
| 12:31.27 | sadeness_ | i got fewer when see screenshots with linux on htc phones :D |
| 12:31.43 | Fossi | the kernel boots and you can log in via usb, but since the touchscreen didn't work last i tried, it's pretty much unusable so far |
| 12:31.50 | Fossi | at least for more than posing ;) |
| 12:33.58 | sadeness_ | that's more than enough to start. |
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| 13:32.40 | dspstv | should be also dokumented that tux eyes get red like mine :P |
| 13:33.35 | sadeness_ | dspstv, oh, you've done that! |
| 13:34.05 | dspstv | me not, some of the peolpe around here did it |
| 13:34.49 | dspstv | i just launched haret.exe |
| 13:35.00 | dspstv | now, im trying to understand the next step |
| 13:35.15 | dspstv | dunno the login |
| 13:35.22 | dspstv | i know password is rootme |
| 13:36.22 | dspstv | should be root |
| 13:36.47 | dspstv | one nice thing, i removed the device from the cradle and nothing collapsed |
| 13:37.12 | dspstv | back in the cradle and i get a dmesg message reporting its return |
| 13:38.04 | sadeness_ | dspstv, tell me please, when you installed linux on pda - does it kill all your data on it? |
| 13:39.35 | dspstv | i dunno that yet |
| 13:39.48 | pH5 | sadeness_: wm2003se or earlier: yes, wm5/wm6: no. |
| 13:39.52 | dspstv | i just got my first kernel panic |
| 13:40.06 | dspstv | let me tell you after reboot |
| 13:41.27 | sadeness_ | right. it shouldn't. shame on me :) |
| 13:42.57 | dspstv | hard reset it not working.. the bluetooth led is still blinking, the screen went black, but kept some dirt from the terminal that paniked |
| 13:43.14 | dspstv | will have to pull out the battery |
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| 14:08.08 | sadeness_ | dspstv, right, google says "Windows Mobile 2003 SE" |
| 14:08.13 | dspstv | ahh |
| 14:08.13 | dspstv | and pH5 just said also |
| 14:08.13 | dspstv | i can probe it :) |
| 14:08.14 | dspstv | i have to copy haret and co. again |
| 14:08.14 | dspstv | this time i will make a picture of the tux with the red eyes |
| 14:08.15 | sadeness_ | and yours :D |
| 14:08.21 | dspstv | heh |
| 14:08.22 | dspstv | my are are fucking red, everyone thinks im stone |
| 14:08.27 | dspstv | just noticed that haret and co are still in the memory storage, no need to copy them over again |
| 14:08.27 | dspstv | i will turn off bluetooth before running haret |
| 14:08.27 | dspstv | to close the connection with the laptop |
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| 15:32.15 | dspstv | another ez one |
| 15:32.37 | dspstv | i dont seem to manage to type the / symbol |
| 15:33.16 | dspstv | the keyboard's cap-shift key is not helping to get the special characters |
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| 15:33.23 | dspstv | i can type fdisk |
| 15:33.38 | dspstv | but have no clue how to write the = / |
| 15:33.43 | falc0n | hi all |
| 15:33.50 | dspstv | is a blueangel |
| 15:33.54 | dspstv | ola falc0n |
| 15:34.33 | dspstv | got it!! via the down arrow key! |
| 15:34.38 | falc0n | can I use linux on HP hx2490b? |
| 15:34.49 | dspstv | i cannnot tell |
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| 15:38.23 | dspstv | ok, haret did not mount my /dev/sda |
| 15:39.01 | SiX9WiZ | just ordered a ppc6700, jw how nix is working on them right now? |
| 15:40.48 | SiX9WiZ | dspstv? |
| 15:43.24 | dspstv | SiX9WiZ? |
| 15:44.06 | pH5 | SiX9WiZ: ppc6700 is htc apache? I think it works as pda, but the phone part is missing. Kevin2 does the port. |
| 15:44.27 | dspstv | im here stuck cause my blueangel htc doesnt mounts the /dev/sda, im logged as root |
| 15:45.29 | pH5 | dspstv: your ba has scsi? |
| 15:46.08 | dspstv | pH5, not that i know, is placed in the usb craddle |
| 15:46.42 | pH5 | there is no /dev/sda on your ba. what are you trying to do? |
| 15:47.11 | dspstv | im exactly in step number 2 |
| 15:47.12 | dspstv | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel |
| 15:47.29 | dspstv | it says fdisk /dev/sda |
| 15:47.59 | dspstv | so, what will be the naming of my storage card? |
| 15:48.04 | pH5 | ah, on your host pc. |
| 15:48.12 | dspstv | ahh |
| 15:48.24 | pH5 | on the blueangel itself the device is called /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 15:48.59 | dspstv | ok, i see, but, right now i only have the ba booting via haret under windows |
| 15:49.20 | dspstv | it seems that the ssh deamon is not present |
| 15:49.42 | dspstv | so i cannot go in via console |
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| 15:51.50 | pH5 | depends on the initrd/userspace image you use. I don't know who made the images on the BlueAngel wiki site. usually dropbear should be included. |
| 15:52.31 | dspstv | hei tx for the clue, i will try to ask in the mailing list |
| 15:52.40 | dspstv | to understand why sshd is not present |
| 15:53.14 | dspstv | i copied all those filez suggested in the ba wiki |
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| 15:55.52 | pH5 | dspstv: or continue to follow the sd card installation guide, maybe it works when booting from sd (it will still use haret). |
| 15:56.22 | dspstv | pH5, thats sounds better for me right now :) |
| 15:56.33 | dspstv | but where is this sd card install guide? |
| 15:58.07 | pH5 | dspstv: the wiki page you just told me about explains how to write the GPE image to an sd card from your host pc. |
| 15:59.34 | pH5 | bbl |
| 15:59.52 | dspstv | k |
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| 16:13.27 | SiX9WiZ | anybody have any info on the 6800 other than endagdet? |
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| 16:16.27 | SiX9WiZ | hi |
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| 19:27.24 | dspstv | ei, could someone help me here, |
| 19:27.56 | dspstv | i connected the blueangel via craddle to my desktop computer running linux |
| 19:28.16 | dspstv | but i still dont see any /dev/sda |
| 19:28.54 | dspstv | it do appears when i load a memory stick |
| 19:29.16 | dspstv | but it doesnt work with the craddle so far |
| 19:29.34 | dspstv | where or how is this device created? |
| 19:29.45 | dspstv | i dont see much under dmesg |
| 19:29.51 | dspstv | any hint appreciated |
| 19:31.41 | pH5 | /dev/sd* is usually created for usb sd card readers on a desktop. if you have a pcmcia-to-sd adapter in your laptop, it'll be some /dev/hd*. on the blueangel itself, the correct device would be /dev/mmcblk0. |
| 19:33.03 | dspstv | thank again pH5, i dont have any SD card reader and was hoping my linux box could communicate via the pda base (i call it craddle, not sure what that means) |
| 19:33.50 | dspstv | and that thing goes in the computer via usb |
| 19:35.52 | pH5 | hm. that would work only if the software on the pda is set up correctly. |
| 19:36.05 | pH5 | too bad you don't have a ssh login. |
| 19:36.06 | dspstv | i see |
| 19:36.20 | dspstv | im thinking why is it that i dont have that |
| 19:36.30 | dspstv | i got this sources: |
| 19:37.05 | dspstv | http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux/zImage-2.6.12 |
| 19:37.16 | dspstv | http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux/initrd-2.6.12-hh2.gz |
| 19:37.27 | dspstv | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=haret.exe |
| 19:37.44 | dspstv | http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux/startup.txt |
| 19:37.53 | dspstv | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=autorun.exe |
| 19:37.57 | dspstv | plus the gpe |
| 19:40.03 | pH5 | dspstv: that's strange there is dropbear in that initrd |
| 19:40.32 | dspstv | yeap when i double tab i see lots of commands |
| 19:40.37 | dspstv | but no ssh |
| 19:42.35 | pH5 | because it's called dropbear, not ssh. ps aux|grep dropbear on the ba to see if it is running. |
| 19:42.42 | pH5 | can you ping the ba from your host pc? |
| 19:42.52 | dspstv | i cannot try to /etc/init.d/ssh start cause i cannot type the dot sign :/ |
| 19:43.34 | dspstv | pH5, i assign me a 192.168.0.205 ip in my eth0 |
| 19:43.45 | dspstv | try to ping from there but it doesnt work |
| 19:44.11 | dspstv | even though ifconfig in the BA shows me ip 192.168.0.206 via USB |
| 19:44.26 | pH5 | dspstv: so that's your problem, not missing ssh. |
| 19:44.26 | dspstv | i dont know how eth and usd are routed |
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| 19:45.00 | dspstv | ok, i thouhgh the BA had ssh to go from it to my desktop |
| 19:45.31 | pH5 | hi goxboxlive |
| 19:45.54 | pH5 | dspstv: the ethernet device on your host should be usb0, provided by the usbnet/cdc_ether modules. |
| 19:46.15 | dspstv | ok |
| 19:46.20 | goxboxlive | hi pH5 |
| 19:46.28 | dspstv | i will go for those modules |
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| 22:13.18 | BabelO | hi |
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| 23:00.35 | dspstv | hei pH5 , im finally in the BA via ssh compiling a new kernel |
| 23:00.38 | dspstv | :) |
| 23:01.02 | dspstv | i meant, i had to compile a new kernel on my host |
| 23:01.19 | dspstv | not a new BA kernel... nonono |
| 23:03.45 | pH5 | dspstv: whatever you did, well done! :) |
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