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09:28.47 | lkcl | fluffs: the guys doing the rx1950 are on irc.oftc.net, #1950 (i think that's the right channel) |
09:32.56 | lkcl | ok - i'm thinking of its predecessor. |
09:33.08 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
09:33.31 | psokolovsky_ | Victor9, who submitted it to CVS, appears here too (on #hh) |
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09:38.58 | goxboxlive | hi lkcl. Just the man i am looking for. You see i am about buying me self a A780. It is not for sale here in Norway, and on Ebay they wouldnt sell their devices out UK or Germany. I know you have a lots of phones. Do you have a A780 wich just collect dust and not in use for sale :-) |
09:46.45 | lkcl | i have two A780s - one of them is xxxxed. |
09:47.01 | lkcl | the only way to get it repaired is to get its PCB replaced. |
09:47.12 | lkcl | or to do JTAG reprogramming (!!!!) |
09:47.35 | lkcl | apparently it _does_ get half way through the bootloader process but then shags up. |
09:50.38 | goxboxlive | ok is both of them with GPS and maps for Norway? |
09:52.01 | lkcl | no idea. |
09:52.35 | goxboxlive | Do you want to sell the working one (it has to have gps and maps for europe) |
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10:27.47 | goxboxlive | pH5 have you tested gpephone on your device yet? |
10:28.57 | pH5 | goxboxlive: only the phoneserver backend, I didn't try the UI. |
10:29.50 | pH5 | unfortunately the ui will run on the magician much easier than the vga openmoko stuff, but the openmoko gsmd is much cleaner than gpephone's phoneserver... |
10:29.56 | goxboxlive | pH5 ok, have you been able to build the UI with OE? Mine is failing when it bulds libvocenebaler |
10:30.05 | goxboxlive | ok i c |
10:30.18 | pH5 | I built libvocenabler. what is your problem? |
10:30.26 | goxboxlive | hold on i pastebin |
10:31.52 | goxboxlive | pastebin.ca/360234 |
11:30.06 | pH5 | ah, that is a problem with OE's linphone (it installs a broken linphone.pc) |
11:30.09 | pH5 | you have to use the linphone.bb that is inside the gpephone directory (1.5.0 instead of 1.6.0) |
11:30.10 | goxboxlive | ah right |
11:30.11 | goxboxlive | thank you |
11:30.11 | pH5 | bbl |
11:31.14 | goxboxlive | lkcl: I sendt you a mail. It's easier. |
11:31.28 | lkcl | okie |
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11:40.06 | fluffs | morning |
11:41.51 | pH5 | hi fluffs |
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13:07.15 | RoEn_PC | hello friends, where is the newest/best howto for newbie with HTC Universal ? |
13:12.00 | goxboxlive | <RoEn_PC> hi, what do you mean by newest? |
13:12.05 | goxboxlive | There is one at hh.org |
13:14.21 | RoEn_htc | hi goxboxlive |
13:15.05 | RoEn_htc | hmmm, i would change my os on htc |
13:15.27 | RoEn_htc | on pc i*m working with debian_sidux |
13:15.29 | RoEn_htc | :) |
13:18.01 | goxboxlive | you cabt change your OS, but you are able to run Linux on your universal. But you have to have wince installed to start linux. |
13:18.07 | goxboxlive | s/cabt/cant/ |
13:19.09 | RoEn_htc | ooook, then i would work with my htc with linux on wince basic :D |
13:19.56 | RoEn_htc | i found on ftp in folder Linux same files |
13:20.25 | goxboxlive | I dont know what you mean, but you start linux as you start a normal application. The only differ is that wince will reset and linux will start. To start up wince again you have to type reboot form terminal in linux |
13:20.25 | RoEn_htc | i made on SD 2 partitions , fat16 and ext3 |
13:20.33 | goxboxlive | good |
13:20.51 | goxboxlive | follow the instruction and you are up running linux. :-) |
13:20.53 | RoEn_htc | goxboxlive: wow |
13:21.27 | goxboxlive | Andit wouldnt hurt your wince os |
13:21.27 | RoEn_htc | hmm, i have kernel panic with gpe-unuversial-RO.2 |
13:22.01 | goxboxlive | ok, forget thoose |
13:22.09 | goxboxlive | images, they are obselute |
13:22.16 | goxboxlive | use the ones in the snapshot folder |
13:22.21 | RoEn_htc | aaaa |
13:22.27 | goxboxlive | and follow the instructions |
13:22.28 | RoEn_htc | mom, im looking |
13:23.39 | RoEn_htc | where there are _ |
13:23.41 | RoEn_htc | ? |
13:28.17 | goxboxlive | <RoEn_htc> first of all, wich wiki are you using? |
13:28.40 | goxboxlive | http://gnulinux.biz/files//Universal/sd-mmc/snapshot/ |
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13:30.18 | goxboxlive | http://gnulinux.biz/files//Universal/sd-mmc/snapshot/ |
13:30.23 | RoEn__htc | thx |
15:03.19 | goxboxlive | and read the text files and you will have it running |
15:03.19 | RoEn__htc | oooooooook |
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15:05.40 | RoEn_PC | hmmm |
15:05.41 | RoEn_PC | Choose wich image you want to run, GPE , OPIE , Bootstrap-image or OpenMoko ??? |
15:05.41 | RoEn_PC | what is the best for stupid user ? :D |
15:05.46 | lama_ | nokia series 40;] |
15:05.53 | goxboxlive | <RoEn_PC> I think opie or GPE |
15:05.54 | goxboxlive | Bootstrap is just the shell and OpenMoko it's a new image withc is just basic, no extra stuff added. It is also very unstable so far |
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15:06.18 | RoEn_PC | ook |
15:06.28 | RoEn_PC | goxboxlive: Make sure the Phone is on and connected - connected with ???? |
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15:06.39 | goxboxlive | ??? where |
15:06.40 | goxboxlive | if you have made an ext 3 partition, just do |
15:06.40 | RoEn_PC | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux |
15:06.41 | RoEn_PC | Then do as follows |
15:06.41 | RoEn_PC | Copy files from the C:\Linux\Ramdisk folder to \My Documents\Linux on your device |
15:06.41 | RoEn_PC | Plug the power cable into the device, Put the SD card into the device (All data will be erased) |
15:06.42 | RoEn_PC | Make sure the Phone is on and connected |
15:06.42 | RoEn_PC | Go to \My Documents\Linux and hit gnuharet.exe Click Run The screen will get some funny colors and seem freezed, don't freak out :-) its normal |
15:06.42 | RoEn_PC | Login |
15:06.43 | RoEn_PC | [15:18:32] <RoEn_PC> Make sure the Phone is on and connected |
15:06.45 | goxboxlive | i'll check |
15:06.45 | goxboxlive | if you have a ext3 partition on your sd card you are ready to run |
15:06.46 | goxboxlive | just untar the the gui image to the ext3 partition and run linux from the fat partition |
15:06.46 | RoEn_PC | ok :) |
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15:08.21 | alt_ | Hi, folks. Someone has any expiriences with magician and linux? |
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15:08.33 | pH5 | alt_: quite a lot |
15:08.47 | alt_ | cool =) |
15:09.04 | alt_ | my touchsreen doesnt work with 2.6.20 |
15:09.20 | alt_ | but with 2.6.19 |
15:09.31 | alt_ | and in 2.6.19 is not phone support |
15:11.00 | pH5 | alt_: in 2.6.20 there are dual touchscreen drivers, we have to sort that out |
15:11.11 | pH5 | rmmod magician_ts ads7846ts-ssp ads7846-adc-ssp |
15:11.28 | pH5 | and then modprobe either magician_ts or ads7846ts-ssp, but not both |
15:11.46 | pH5 | the phone should work in all versions, though.. |
15:11.50 | alt_ | ok, how can i get console after boot? |
15:12.04 | pH5 | ssh via usbnet |
15:12.05 | alt_ | ive got only this collibrating thing |
15:12.52 | alt_ | ok |
15:13.00 | alt_ | ill try it now |
15:13.32 | alt_ | and one more thing, is there a way to reboot without to make hardreset? |
15:13.45 | alt_ | if i press reset i see nothing but a black screen |
15:14.50 | pH5 | alt_: there isn't any other way for now. |
15:14.59 | alt_ | ok, it not so bad |
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15:19.07 | alt_ | hmm, i was asked about password, is there something like standartpassword? |
15:21.02 | alt_ | ok, its passwd |
15:22.04 | alt_ | ok, its not passwd =) |
15:22.13 | alt_ | anyone an idea |
15:22.13 | pH5 | depends on the image. in my debug builds, root pwd is empty |
15:22.35 | alt_ | i boot 2.6.20-rc7 |
15:23.01 | alt_ | is there some docu were i can read it all |
15:23.55 | pH5 | documentation about what? |
15:24.40 | alt_ | about kernel |
15:25.12 | alt_ | its not really cool to ask every little thing, but i really have no idea where i can find it |
15:27.59 | pH5 | documentation of the magician specific stuff? not really. kernel development is mostly discussed on the mailing lists. |
15:28.06 | alt_ | its also not rootme as for himalaya |
15:28.26 | pH5 | the password has nothing to do with the kernel. it depends on your userspace image |
15:29.12 | alt_ | ok |
15:30.03 | alt_ | if i boot kernel 2.6.18 and set the password and then boot the 20er kernel i could use the password i set? |
15:30.44 | pH5 | exactly. the root/user password is stored in a file in the /etc/ directory |
15:31.28 | alt_ | in plain text? or something like /etc/shadow? |
15:33.12 | pH5 | alt_: /etc/shadow |
15:33.19 | pH5 | alt_: and if you change the kernel, you will also have to install the corresponding modules into the userspace image. |
15:33.51 | pH5 | maybe you switched the kernel to 2.6.20 and forgot to install 2.6.20 kernel modules in /lib/modules ? |
16:49.11 | alt_ | yes, it is |
16:49.12 | alt_ | how can i do this? |
16:49.12 | alt_ | should i extract this modulefile from serves in lib/modules? |
16:49.13 | pH5 | mount the rootfs on your computer like when you extracted the initial rootfs tarball and just extract the module tar.gz in / (lib/modules paths are contained in the filenames inside the tarball) |
16:49.22 | pH5 | bbl |
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18:09.09 | alt_ | it's working, thanks a lot |
18:55.22 | alt_ | does phone work? |
18:55.24 | alt_ | i have the same err message as with 2.6.19 |
18:55.25 | alt_ | cannot open ttys1 |
18:55.45 | alt_ | hey, pplz, anyone get gomunicator on magician to work?? |
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21:36.47 | *** topic/#htc-linux is HTC Linux Channel: Find logs at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ | please check http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | <cr2> let's define a common setup. |
21:37.19 | cr2 | ~change 1000 EUR to UKP |
21:37.40 | cr2 | lol |
21:38.04 | goxboxlive | :-) |
21:38.29 | goxboxlive | ~change 1 EUR to GBP |
21:38.57 | cr2 | ~change 1 GBP to EUR |
21:39.18 | pH5 | cr2: how far is hermes by now? do you get to a console on lcd? |
21:39.30 | cr2 | pH5: unfortunately no. |
21:40.16 | cr2 | i've decoded the NAND settings and all serial port settings. |
21:41.10 | pH5 | how far does the boot process proceed? |
21:41.19 | cr2 | black line. |
21:42.58 | pH5 | :( haret magic |
21:47.14 | cr2 | irda debug magic ;) |
21:50.46 | cr2 | arch/arm/mach-pxa/magician/magician_cpld.c: In function 'magician_cpld_resume': |
21:50.46 | cr2 | arch/arm/mach-pxa/magician/magician_cpld.c:284: warning: too many arguments for format |
21:51.10 | cr2 | arch/arm/mach-pxa/magician/magician_ts.c: In function 'tssim_init': |
21:51.11 | cr2 | arch/arm/mach-pxa/magician/magician_ts.c:764: error: request for member 'class' in something not a structure or union |
21:52.34 | cr2 | latest CVS. |
21:54.35 | goxboxlive | pH5: Do you build linphone-1.5 with bitbake -b path_to_openmoko_linphone ? |
21:57.53 | pH5 | goxboxlive: I did that, yes. |
21:58.07 | pH5 | cr2: working on it. magician_ts needs an update for the battery class change. |
21:58.49 | goxboxlive | pH5 and you had no problems with Speex at all? |
21:59.53 | pH5 | goxboxlive: oh. I had the dependencies built before. |
21:59.59 | goxboxlive | sorry ment gpephone not openmoko |
22:00.16 | pH5 | goxboxlive: you can either build the dependencies manually or set linphone version to 1.5.0 via PREFERRED_VERSION in local.conf |
22:00.26 | pH5 | and then run bitbake without -b |
22:00.51 | goxboxlive | Yes, but the strange thing is that i have speex allready buildt |
22:03.53 | goxboxlive | hold on, i am on to something here |
22:07.28 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: arch/arm/mach-pxa/built-in.o:(.data+0x169c): undefined reference to `ads7846_sense' |
22:08.24 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, defconfig |
22:10.43 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: CONFIG_ADC_ADS7846_SSP=m |
22:11.10 | pH5 | That's not nice. |
22:11.21 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, must be y ;-I. solution: virtual methods ;-I |
22:23.05 | pH5 | I'll think about it. I don't like this at all. |
22:23.54 | pH5 | Could we put the sense function into the data of the adc_dev and make adc-debounce get it through that? |
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22:35.48 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, we should do just that. I call that "virtual methods", because that's what they essentially are. |
22:37.47 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, http://paste.uni.cc/13211 |
22:59.30 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: I was thinking something like: http://en.pastebin.ca/361116 |
23:22.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: What is flawless? |
23:22.29 | goxboxlive | cr2: SOrry it wasnt just for you, it was for everybody :-) |
23:40.14 | cr2 | goxboxlive: did you upload these screenshots over wifi ? |
23:40.25 | cr2 | http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=3 |
23:40.48 | goxboxlive | cr2: no i used usb |
23:41.18 | cr2 | it's a pity :) |
23:42.01 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
23:42.19 | cr2 | can you upload them over wifi ? |
23:42.22 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, so yeah, we basicly have two options to put vtable to - pdata or drvdata |
23:42.48 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, kinda yeah, we've told that pdata is "readonly" and used only to pass data in to driver |
23:43.27 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, but that's only half of truth. reak diff beyween them is that pdata is public vs drvdata is private members of object |
23:43.49 | psokolovsky_ | and it's just the case that drivers usually don't pass data back for public consumption |
23:44.11 | psokolovsky_ | but if we standardize on virtual method paradigm, that well can change |
23:44.58 | psokolovsky_ | virt. methods are intended for public consumpion, so there's no reason to dig them into private drv structures. that's why I propose to put vtable to pdata. |
23:45.23 | goxboxlive | cr2: I havent got wifi working for a while now. I guess my interfaces file is corrupt. But you ccan also upload using wifi |
23:48.38 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the wm8753 used by FIC (and the audio routing) is very close in design to universal. |
23:49.04 | goxboxlive | sounds good. |
23:49.21 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: problem with vtable in pdata is that there might be non-platform adc drivers |
23:50.16 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, but pdata is struct device stuff, not platform_device's. so, it's universal |
23:50.57 | pH5 | ah ok. |
23:51.02 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, unless you hint that for non-platform_device's pdata may be used for other things. then, adc driver would have to be platform ;-I |
23:51.21 | psokolovsky_ | but I guss pdata is free for "user" stuff |
23:51.58 | pH5 | anything that doesn't force me to reference functions exported from modules in magician.c makes me happy. |
23:53.20 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, then let's try that approach, it's kinda more explicit and exposes all details, just provides convenience macros to deal with it more or less comfortably |
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23:58.45 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: did you have a look at base/isa.c and linux/isa.h? |
23:59.04 | pH5 | looks like we are duplicating basically the same functionality. |
23:59.06 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, actually, no |
23:59.14 | psokolovsky_ | let me look |