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| 02:10.37 | scatterp | hi i went to a meeting with one of those "security guys" that big corps hire to find out info etc and hes anti cell phone device seems to have broken my htc universal |
| 02:10.52 | scatterp | any suggestions the light just flashs red when i try to charge it |
| 02:27.16 | scatterp | is there any diffrence between the diffrent models ? |
| 03:20.09 | Ralith | scatterp, talk to him and ask him what his devs do, and if you can prove he broke it make him replace it :P |
| 03:20.12 | Ralith | and no, the models ar emostly identical |
| 03:20.17 | Ralith | afik |
| 03:21.38 | scatterp | i did but im liveing in costa rica |
| 03:22.03 | scatterp | you take this phone in to the shop here and they look at you like you have an alien device |
| 03:22.06 | scatterp | and shake there head |
| 03:22.20 | scatterp | its like a 3rd world country |
| 03:22.30 | scatterp | hes device is a rf flooder i think |
| 03:22.35 | scatterp | he has a lot of devices |
| 03:22.49 | scatterp | another guy said he went there and hes phone didnt work again for 3 hours |
| 03:22.57 | scatterp | but i think mines just dead dead |
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| 04:24.49 | Ralith | scatterp, I assume you've soft-reset it? |
| 04:25.07 | Ralith | dropped mine a short ways once, and the screen went white until a soft-reset which fixed it fine |
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| 13:59.01 | goxboxlive | cr2: Are you there |
| 14:22.30 | cr2 | maybe |
| 14:29.02 | goxboxlive | :-) COuld you give me some web link to a german telephone shop wich sell A780 please? |
| 14:29.53 | goxboxlive | that sells without a contract |
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| 18:32.00 | guylhem | hi all - could anyone point me how to find the bootloader version? (dumb question, but can't find that on the wii) |
| 18:34.05 | psokolovsky | guylhem, which bootloader? |
| 18:34.37 | guylhem | on a htc universal |
| 18:34.48 | psokolovsky | ah, dunno |
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| 18:35.52 | guylhem | There's if I understand correctly a radio and a bootloader, each with a different version. (I just got an htc universal yesterday - used one, trying to figure out what's on in) |
| 18:45.05 | guylhem | almost found it - remove the battery, put it back. It will display red text. The 1st one is the radio, the 2nd one ??, the 3rd one the rom version. But no bootloader version :-/ |
| 18:48.56 | guylhem | found - To check your bootloader, hold the light key, power key and press the reset button |
| 18:49.16 | guylhem | this goes into bootloader mode which display the version on the screen. (!) |
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| 21:51.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive: still here ? |
| 21:51.46 | goxboxlive | well actullay yes |
| 21:54.16 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes |
| 21:59.31 | cr2 | i'm writing a review of a paper. no time for hacking. |
| 21:59.51 | cr2 | so you have decided to buy an a780 ? |
| 22:00.06 | goxboxlive | yes i have |
| 22:00.28 | goxboxlive | II think the phone is good, but i want the gps version of it |
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| 22:01.41 | goxboxlive | cr2: Do yu know any webstores in Germany wich still have it. It seems like it is a an outdated phone. |
| 22:02.05 | goxboxlive | Non of the webstores i have checked has it |
| 22:05.27 | cr2 | hm. it is not produced anymore, but i'll have a look. |
| 22:06.56 | goxboxlive | good |
| 22:07.01 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.13 | goxboxlive | ill check |
| 22:07.33 | cr2 | http://www.handys-mobile.de/motorola-a780.html |
| 22:08.08 | cr2 | close to the bottom |
| 22:08.10 | cr2 | Motorola A 780 ohne Vertrag |
| 22:08.28 | cr2 | "ohne Vertrag" -> without a contract. |
| 22:08.43 | cr2 | 449€ ;) |
| 22:08.44 | goxboxlive | yes i saw it. It was still quite expensive |
| 22:09.02 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 22:09.13 | goxboxlive | ~change 449 euro to nok |
| 22:09.23 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 22:09.27 | cr2 | you can buy mine. but i'll not sell :) |
| 22:09.36 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 22:11.00 | cr2 | well, then your only chance is ebay. |
| 22:11.28 | cr2 | but since it's not in production it will be not easy. |
| 22:11.45 | goxboxlive | yes i can see that there are a few at ebay.de |
| 22:11.56 | cr2 | they were going for 260-270€ used (1 year ago). |
| 22:12.02 | goxboxlive | But they wouldnt sell it outside Germany |
| 22:12.30 | goxboxlive | Now they are gooing for 120-200 |
| 22:12.45 | cr2 | i wanted to buy a second one (new) but it was suddenly not produced anymore. |
| 22:12.53 | cr2 | 120 with gps ? |
| 22:12.58 | cr2 | i doubt it. |
| 22:13.14 | cr2 | actually, the maps alone cost more. |
| 22:13.30 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 22:13.32 | cr2 | heh. if they are not warezed. |
| 22:14.02 | goxboxlive | there are one in UK wich is now 127£ but i think it is to expensive |
| 22:14.14 | goxboxlive | I left the biding round at 110 |
| 22:14.28 | cr2 | for a used device? maybe. |
| 22:14.31 | goxboxlive | I get shiping + taxes (25%) |
| 22:14.51 | cr2 | what is € -> £ ? |
| 22:15.03 | cr2 | hm. you are not really in the EU :) |
| 22:15.27 | goxboxlive | no, i'm not. We stand alone together with Iceland :-) |
| 22:15.38 | cr2 | that explains 25%. |
| 22:15.45 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 22:16.07 | goxboxlive | There is a trick to override it |
| 22:16.31 | goxboxlive | mark the package "gift" and set a vulue below 200 NOK |
| 22:16.58 | goxboxlive | But if the custom do a check you will get alot of questions |
| 22:17.11 | cr2 | you don't want to fly to brussels, and it's a too big turn from Malmö to Oslo. |
| 22:17.45 | goxboxlive | I did once, but i covince the custom that i was a geek that gatherd phones that wasent operativ |
| 22:18.06 | cr2 | i've got such gift too. |
| 22:18.38 | cr2 | they asked me what is there, i've said "a broken computer parts". very close to the reality, actually :) |
| 22:18.38 | goxboxlive | No i cant join the Fosdem. To Malmö form Oslo is probably 600 km i think |
| 22:18.55 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 22:19.36 | cr2 | yeah. if it was summer, i may have drove there. but not now ;) |
| 22:19.47 | goxboxlive | Do youknow if pH5 has managed to build gpephone? |
| 22:19.56 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:20.05 | goxboxlive | MIne breaks |
| 22:20.31 | cr2 | he complained about sqlite dependency. |
| 22:20.37 | cr2 | that was his last word. |
| 22:20.41 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:20.55 | pH5 | :) I did |
| 22:20.58 | pH5 | I have built phoneserver and voicecall so far. |
| 22:21.04 | cr2 | ~change 1000 SEK to EUR |
| 22:21.25 | cr2 | robbers. |
| 22:21.43 | goxboxlive | mine failes with libvocenabler. It complaines something about linphone |
| 22:22.06 | pH5 | build linphone 1.5.0 from the gpephone directory, instead of linphone 1.6.0. |
| 22:22.12 | goxboxlive | pH5 with OE? |
| 22:22.22 | pH5 | yes |
| 22:22.39 | goxboxlive | ok, i'll try with 1.5 |
| 22:23.24 | pH5 | the linphone 1.6.0 recipe installs a broken linphone.pc into the staging dir (which points includes to /usr/include) |
| 22:23.51 | cr2 | pH5: who is the maintainer ? |
| 22:24.13 | goxboxlive | florian i think |
| 22:24.17 | cr2 | but does gpephone know about TI framing & stuff ? |
| 22:24.51 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:25.32 | cr2 | i have understood that the moko source (as is) will be published in 2 days ? |
| 22:25.39 | goxboxlive | yes they said so |
| 22:25.51 | cr2 | the "nokia maps" is also only a hot vapor ;-) |
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| 22:29.08 | cr2 | goxboxlive: southern norway is 31MB. should be a really detailed map. |
| 22:29.18 | cr2 | maybe because of the coastline. |
| 22:29.18 | goxboxlive | good |
| 22:29.25 | goxboxlive | right |
| 22:30.02 | cr2 | but you can't download it without having this smart2go program. |
| 22:30.10 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:30.11 | cr2 | which is (coming soon...) |
| 22:30.15 | goxboxlive | i know |
| 22:30.37 | pH5 | cr2: it doesn't know about ti framing, but I hacked it in. |
| 22:30.51 | goxboxlive | well, now it's getting late, have to go to bed before it gets even later. :-) Good night |
| 22:30.52 | pH5 | I don't know who maintains linphone (if anyone does) |
| 22:30.58 | pH5 | 'night goxboxlive |
| 22:32.28 | cr2 | pH5: gprs ? |
| 22:32.45 | pH5 | http://en.pastebin.ca/352570, but I haven't finished correcting the init procedure yet. This thing is the same #ifdef mess as gomunicator |
| 22:33.16 | pH5 | I initiate my GPRS sessions via echo n |
| 22:33.24 | pH5 | s/echo n/echo -n/ |
| 22:34.35 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:34.57 | cr2 | looks like gnokii code. |
| 22:35.16 | pH5 | it is, they copy&pasted serial.c from gnokii |
| 22:35.51 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:36.16 | cr2 | so, do you have a working sound on magician ? |
| 22:36.48 | pH5 | uh.. |
| 22:37.06 | pH5 | playback works |
| 22:37.17 | pH5 | but I'm not bored enough to fix recording |
| 22:38.32 | cr2 | ah, right. blueangel is a bit different. it uses the external spi clock. |
| 22:39.12 | cr2 | i'll try to push one guy here to give me an old himalaya with the broken screen. |
| 22:39.55 | cr2 | lol. |
| 22:40.00 | cr2 | * Navigation in China nur für innerhalb des Landes gekaufte Geräte verfügbar. |
| 22:40.14 | cr2 | from nokia maps. |
| 22:43.51 | cr2 | downloading the route over gprs (and paying $$$) is so big brother anyway. |
| 22:44.21 | cr2 | i'm wondering why they (and moko) think that it's _the_ great thing. |
| 22:49.15 | pH5 | cr2: they (nokia) probably don't. it's enough if they can make some people think it is. I for one would like the income from advertisement in their place. |
| 22:49.19 | cr2 | which advertisement ? |
| 22:58.11 | cr2 | pH5: xwd can dump only visible windows. bad, but still not a big problem. |
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| 23:00.40 | AfGhAnGsT | hey |
| 23:00.50 | pH5 | I thought they'd plaster the map with fast food chains, maybe I'm wrong. |
| 23:00.50 | AfGhAnGsT | how's this project going? |
| 23:00.53 | pH5 | "Explore the world with our optional, premium-brand travel guides, packed with valuable information and important tips." |
| 23:01.00 | pH5 | optional, ok. |
| 23:02.07 | AfGhAnGsT | how's this project going? |
| 23:03.26 | cr2 | AfGhAnGsT: moves slowly. |
| 23:03.36 | pH5 | xwd dumps only visible windows - does this change with composite enabled? |
| 23:04.14 | cr2 | pH5: still it will be easier to dump "nokia map" tiles than to grab them from google |
| 23:04.28 | cr2 | visible is not a problem. |
| 23:05.17 | cr2 | i'm thinking about resising the window to 256x256, and apply the google 'tsqr' encoding. |
| 23:05.30 | pH5 | nice :) |
| 23:05.47 | AfGhAnGsT | guy |
| 23:05.49 | AfGhAnGsT | *guys |
| 23:05.57 | AfGhAnGsT | do you know of a way to get WM5 on my PH20A2? |
| 23:06.10 | cr2 | alpine ? |
| 23:06.29 | AfGhAnGsT | its a XV6600 |
| 23:06.33 | AfGhAnGsT | Verizon |
| 23:06.34 | AfGhAnGsT | CDMA |
| 23:06.40 | AfGhAnGsT | i wanted to get a new ROM on it |
| 23:06.48 | AfGhAnGsT | possibly Helmi or whatever |
| 23:06.55 | cr2 | so it's a blueangel. |
| 23:07.02 | AfGhAnGsT | yes |
| 23:07.07 | cr2 | don't know anything about cdma, though. |
| 23:07.13 | pH5 | xv6600 is harrier? |
| 23:07.22 | AfGhAnGsT | i don't know |
| 23:07.25 | AfGhAnGsT | what any of that stuff is |
| 23:07.26 | AfGhAnGsT | lol |
| 23:07.39 | cr2 | maybe, but it's basically a blueangel with cdma phone. |
| 23:07.54 | AfGhAnGsT | i guess |
| 23:08.06 | pH5 | ah ok. htc naming just is confusing. I accept that. |
| 23:08.12 | cr2 | wince5 works on a gsm blueangel. don't know about cdma. |
| 23:08.29 | cr2 | must be a different rom. |
| 23:08.37 | AfGhAnGsT | yeah |
| 23:08.40 | cr2 | rilgsm->rilcdma ? |
| 23:08.40 | AfGhAnGsT | that's what im wondering |
| 23:08.43 | AfGhAnGsT | if it works on GSM |
| 23:08.45 | AfGhAnGsT | why not on CDMA |
| 23:08.53 | AfGhAnGsT | can you guys point me to an IRC channel |
| 23:08.55 | AfGhAnGsT | where they would know |
| 23:08.56 | cr2 | different command set. |
| 23:09.14 | cr2 | ask at xda-developers.com |
| 23:09.20 | AfGhAnGsT | i did |
| 23:09.26 | AfGhAnGsT | i was just wondering if there was an IRC channel |
| 23:09.31 | AfGhAnGsT | for a quicker response |
| 23:11.23 | cr2 | this is a linux channel. |
| 23:11.24 | AfGhAnGsT | this is what is in BOLD in the FAQ |
| 23:11.26 | AfGhAnGsT | "The WM5 English ROM Version 5.1.1700 Build 14343 does not work on PH20A2 (Harrier) / CDMA device" |
| 23:11.43 | AfGhAnGsT | so what im tryin to figure out is if ALL WM5 ROMS dont work on PH20A2 |
| 23:11.46 | cr2 | well, then you are out of luck. |
| 23:11.48 | AfGhAnGsT | or if it's just that particular ROM |
| 23:12.13 | cr2 | afaik, wince5 is "unofficial" on ba. |
| 23:12.18 | cr2 | so it's a hack. |
| 23:12.37 | AfGhAnGsT | i know |
| 23:12.46 | cr2 | they just ported the himalaya image afaik. |
| 23:12.59 | cr2 | and there is no cdma himalaya. |
| 23:13.10 | AfGhAnGsT | nice |
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