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| 11:29.51 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky_ When are you planning to update to 2.6.20? I just want to know because i have to change my mailing list settings to receive digest before you do the update. It just to prevent over 1000 new mail :-) |
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| 11:58.49 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, Hi! Next week is the target (whole week). |
| 11:59.26 | goxboxlive | ok, thanks |
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| 12:23.22 | blackest | anyone awake? |
| 12:24.41 | blackest | I was thinking perhaps it might be worth creating a common vmimage for development |
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| 14:37.35 | shido6 | :) |
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| 19:20.58 | renatostore | ph5:hi |
| 19:21.48 | sheepy | anyone have a link to the arm arch docs? |
| 19:22.18 | DJWillis | What ones? |
| 19:22.49 | sheepy | the intel pxa docs ? |
| 19:23.10 | sheepy | seems that intel moved them on their site |
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| 19:23.22 | DJWillis | Ahhh, damm, got all the ARM9 docs localy, not got PXA specific docs to hand |
| 19:24.19 | sheepy | :) |
| 19:25.00 | sheepy | http://download.intel.com:80/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/swsup/27896010.pdf |
| 19:25.05 | sheepy | :( |
| 19:29.36 | DJWillis | http://marvell.com/products/cellular/applications.jsp << Anything hiding there? |
| 19:31.35 | sheepy | light-grey on white is a terrible color scheme for a website ;) |
| 19:32.06 | DJWillis | definately |
| 19:34.16 | sheepy | i dont think these guys are giving away any info ;) |
| 19:34.53 | DJWillis | just looked myself, tis a little lacking, sorry |
| 19:35.12 | sheepy | that is ok, Thanks for the leads :) |
| 19:36.24 | DJWillis | I tend to hack more on ARM9 the Xscale or I would have the docs :( |
| 19:36.58 | sheepy | i am just getting into haret and getting familiar with the apache |
| 19:39.03 | DJWillis | well good luck, its a fun and frustrating past time ;) |
| 19:40.12 | sheepy | hehe |
| 19:40.12 | sheepy | yes |
| 19:40.18 | sheepy | thx, you too |
| 19:44.52 | pH5 | hi renatostore |
| 19:46.10 | renatostore | hi, i followed your instruction but i found only errors compiling |
| 19:48.05 | renatostore | can you see my private messages |
| 19:48.06 | renatostore | ? |
| 19:48.19 | pH5 | bugger. with latest cvs? I made some fixes after the initial upload. |
| 19:48.24 | renatostore | if so i can put there a list of errors |
| 19:48.32 | pH5 | renatostore: I can't see your private messages. are you registered with NickServ? |
| 19:48.43 | renatostore | no |
| 19:48.52 | renatostore | how i can? |
| 19:50.26 | pH5 | renatostore: "/msg NickServ HELP" to find out how |
| 19:51.06 | pH5 | renatostore: you can use pastebin.ca, rafb.net/paste or similar to paste code and logs. |
| 19:53.40 | sheepy | anyone know where i can get the PXA27x Processor Family Developer's Manual |
| 19:54.22 | sheepy | Intel has it referenced on their site but i dont see how to get it ;) |
| 19:54.22 | renatostore | the error is compiling htcalpne.o |
| 19:56.44 | renatostore | ph5: here you can find the errors: http://rafb.net/p/IIEsf092.html |
| 19:59.09 | pH5 | renatostore: if you do a cvs update now and try again, do you still get the same? |
| 19:59.22 | pH5 | I just compiled a htcalpine_defconfig kernel without problems |
| 19:59.46 | renatostore | i will try now |
| 20:01.03 | cr2 | renatostore: works for me too. |
| 20:01.06 | cr2 | hi pH5 |
| 20:01.19 | pH5 | hey cr2 |
| 20:07.00 | pH5 | sheepy: maybe they took it down due to pxa marketing going to marvell? |
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| 20:11.31 | pH5 | cr2: did you have a look at psokolovsky's ads7846ts-ssp driver? I can get it to work on the magician, but compared to the old driver it is noisy in y-direction. I wonder if that could be due to a different clock rate. |
| 20:11.49 | DJWillis | sheepy: http://www.xscale-freak.com/XSDoc/PXA27X/PXA27X_index.htm << Just dug that link up. |
| 20:13.08 | DJWillis | Damm, really should look up when typing ;), oh well |
| 20:13.08 | renatostore | ph5: now i have 2 warnings |
| 20:13.09 | renatostore | cr2: hi |
| 20:13.09 | renatostore | what do you need? |
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| 20:24.56 | sheepy | http://www.hitex.co.uk/phytec/32bits/PXA270.htm |
| 20:25.06 | sheepy | this has a copy of the Intel docs |
| 20:25.16 | sheepy | since Intel has removed them off of their site |
| 20:25.28 | sheepy | you may want to get them while you can ;) |
| 20:26.49 | DJWillis | sheepy: http://www.xscale-freak.com/XSDoc/PXA27X/PXA27X_index.htm << Just dug that link up. |
| 20:27.07 | sheepy | oo thx |
| 20:27.41 | sheepy | exactly what i was looking for |
| 20:27.56 | sheepy | crazy that Intel transferred everything for the pxa to Marvell |
| 20:28.06 | sheepy | money talks i guess ;) |
| 20:31.31 | kimuSan^ | ahh how are things inhere guys... |
| 20:31.55 | sheepy | nice thanks :) |
| 20:31.57 | sheepy | you? |
| 20:32.17 | kimuSan^ | great. |
| 20:32.46 | kimuSan^ | I finally have some sparetime for all my projects :-) |
| 20:32.57 | sheepy | :D |
| 20:33.17 | sheepy | i get about 4-8 hours a week of free time |
| 20:33.30 | sheepy | to work on fun stuff |
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| 20:36.06 | Sess | anyone have an accurate latest status on the htc universal running linux? |
| 20:36.13 | Sess | or a weblink with info |
| 20:36.16 | sheepy | kimuSan^: what are you working on? |
| 20:36.19 | Sess | the wiki seems to have old info |
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| 20:37.22 | Sess | basically Im wondering if gprs and phone calls are stable |
| 20:37.24 | fgarpe | hi! |
| 20:37.31 | sheepy | hi |
| 20:38.42 | sheepy | haha, i am that guy using all of the bandwidth at the coffee shop :P |
| 20:38.53 | sheepy | but only for a little bit |
| 20:39.04 | fgarpe | jeje |
| 20:39.20 | fgarpe | goxboxlive I need more work |
| 20:39.32 | renatostore | ph5: i'm in OPIe now |
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| 20:41.24 | fgarpe | I'm not sure where to begin or to follow |
| 20:41.42 | sheepy | what are you working on fgarpe? |
| 20:41.47 | sheepy | or want to be working on? |
| 20:41.57 | pH5 | renatostore: nice. you could install minicom or something like that and see if you get any response when opening /dev/ttyS1 |
| 20:42.01 | kimuSan^ | sheepy: im writing a book, but it's nearly done now, so now it it time for me to try to get some linux down on my trinity. My employer has even given me some time for it such that I can use it for demoing some of our products later on. |
| 20:42.12 | sheepy | ooo |
| 20:42.13 | sheepy | nice |
| 20:42.21 | sheepy | paid to have fun |
| 20:42.24 | sheepy | even better |
| 20:42.44 | fgarpe | uhm, in universal |
| 20:42.53 | kimuSan^ | just a couple of hours per week.....its always fun where I work though :-) |
| 20:42.58 | fgarpe | but I am only a newby |
| 20:43.40 | sheepy | yeah, i get to design enterprise networks @ work, that is fun. but they dont pay me to play with linux on handhelds :) |
| 20:44.14 | sheepy | i am learning it too fgarpe |
| 20:44.21 | Sess | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal <------- Is this accurate latest universal status? |
| 20:44.31 | renatostore | ph5: i haven't minicom on universal image. what i can use? |
| 20:44.40 | sheepy | i just downloaded the pxa docs and got haret connected to my phone |
| 20:44.46 | fgarpe | I think yes |
| 20:44.54 | sheepy | it is time to start reading ;) |
| 20:45.11 | fgarpe | where are this docs? |
| 20:45.21 | renatostore | ph5: i'm working on the device console |
| 20:45.36 | sheepy | http://www.xscale-freak.com/XSDoc/PXA27X/PXA27X_index.htm thanks to DJWillis |
| 20:47.09 | fgarpe | I'm going to read it |
| 20:47.24 | sheepy | so where i am going to start is to read the development docs, try to find a simple function implemented in the kernel drivers and start the learning from there |
| 20:47.56 | cr2 | pH5: why don't you set the speed you need ? |
| 20:47.57 | sheepy | what do the rest of you think? where did you start out on here? |
| 20:52.09 | fgarpe | I'm interested in the universal cameras, but i don't know where are the drivers |
| 20:52.40 | sheepy | i dont think that there is a driver yet |
| 20:54.30 | fgarpe | this is the problem, I'm not sure where to begin or to follow |
| 20:54.36 | sheepy | hmm |
| 20:54.58 | sheepy | you got haret running and able to connect to it from your pc? |
| 20:56.19 | renatostore | ph5 or cr2: what can i use to test phone on alpine? |
| 20:57.11 | fgarpe | I have the latest Linux image runing on my universal, I don't try to connect to my pc |
| 20:57.25 | fgarpe | sorry for my english |
| 20:57.43 | sheepy | that is ok i can understand you :) |
| 20:58.03 | sheepy | IRC chat has become a rather universal language |
| 20:58.06 | sheepy | hehe |
| 20:58.13 | fgarpe | jejeje |
| 20:58.15 | sheepy | ok, you run linux on your pc? |
| 20:58.19 | fgarpe | yes |
| 20:58.27 | fgarpe | debian |
| 20:58.33 | sheepy | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET |
| 20:58.56 | sheepy | get your pc connected to haret |
| 20:59.46 | sheepy | I had to get synce running |
| 20:59.57 | sheepy | and odccm |
| 21:00.55 | sheepy | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/haret/docs/haret.html |
| 21:01.00 | sheepy | that will help ;) |
| 21:03.38 | sheepy | once you get that running you can start to read the registers which correspond to what is going on in the phone's hardware |
| 21:03.41 | fgarpe | ok, this is a good begin, I'm going to read this docs and try to connect to haret |
| 21:06.17 | sheepy | then you can start to play with understanding what other people have done, this is where i am at. reading the registers and looking at how other people have implemented stuff from this |
| 21:07.33 | sheepy | i am just starting at something simple. seeing how the power button was implemented |
| 21:07.56 | sheepy | from driver to userland |
| 21:08.55 | sheepy | then i am going to see how to implement the "screen rotation" in the htc-apache |
| 21:09.03 | sheepy | in userspace |
| 21:09.16 | sheepy | for the screen rotation switch |
| 21:09.29 | sheepy | from there, who knows ;) |
| 21:09.32 | fgarpe | thank you very much sheepy, I was lost |
| 21:10.15 | sheepy | but, i am new here too. Maybe my plan will change ;) |
| 21:11.57 | fgarpe | jeje, ok, I think that this is a good begin |
| 21:12.56 | sheepy | me, not coming from a comp sci or engineering background makes a harder learning curve for me |
| 21:14.57 | sheepy | but anyone can learn anything with a bit of work ;) |
| 21:14.58 | fgarpe | I'm not coming from it too, but I want try |
| 21:15.15 | fgarpe | yes, I think the same |
| 21:35.04 | fgarpe | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.52 | anYc | i also tried to learn how i get linux on my magician, but i got not enough spare time at the moment. so i will observe your proceeding the next weeks :) |
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| 21:57.33 | renatostore | ph5: are you still there ? |
| 21:57.52 | lkcl | http://advogato.org/article/913.html |
| 21:58.11 | lkcl | In a lot of cases, it's just down to bugs in the drivers. Restoring hardware state can be hard, especially if you don't actually have all the documentation for the hardware to start with - traditionally, many Linux drivers have ended up depending on the BIOS to have programmed the hardware into a semi-sane state, and there's no guarantee that that will happen with ACPI. Other cases can just be oversights - for instance, the bug in the APIC (not to be |
| 21:58.11 | lkcl | confused with ACPI) code that meant a single register wasn't restored, resulting in some machines resuming without any interrupts being delivered. |
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| 22:19.13 | sponged | hiya, I'm itching to take a try at installing linux on my new universal ... I've read a bit on the hh wiki, and looked over this channel's logs for the last few days... am I right thinking I could use the files at hhtp://gnulinux.biz/files/Universal/sd-mmc/snapshot/ in place of the one's mentioned in the howto? |
| 22:21.16 | sponged | argh! s/one's/ones/! |
| 22:23.45 | goxboxlive_ | sponged: Yes the files in the snapshot folder is made for the universal. |
| 22:24.10 | sponged | Cheers. |
| 22:24.34 | goxboxlive_ | :-) |
| 22:25.06 | sponged | It's exciting to see the progress happening in here! |
| 22:26.48 | sponged | (Because looking at the news page on hh.org, you'd think not much was going on.. :) |
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| 22:32.36 | goxboxlive_ | well, people involved has to much to do, and there are to few people with the skills to write drivers. |
| 22:32.41 | goxboxlive_ | cr2 are you around? |
| 22:34.09 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:36.22 | goxboxlive_ | wow |
| 22:36.29 | goxboxlive_ | could you help me a little here |
| 22:36.34 | goxboxlive_ | translate something for me |
| 22:36.55 | goxboxlive_ | http://cgi.ebay.de/Motorola-A780-Navi-Handy-256-MB-Karte_W0QQitemZ220080538394QQihZ012QQcategoryZ119595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:37.11 | goxboxlive_ | Is he saying that he hasent any gps software installed? |
| 22:37.27 | goxboxlive_ | Or is it just maps installed on the sd card he means? |
| 22:38.11 | goxboxlive_ | I have allready sold the one i bought. But i kind of liked the phone so i think i buy one form ebay or something |
| 22:38.33 | sponged | oh, I just mean that until you find this channel logs, and the hh status page, I guess, you wouldn't know that a lot of stuff has improved. I'm really impressed - especially after reading that ^ advogato post! :) |
| 22:39.11 | goxboxlive_ | i c |
| 22:40.10 | cr2 | he says "the software is not installed" |
| 22:40.19 | cr2 | very suspicious |
| 22:40.36 | cr2 | i think it's the same asian device. |
| 22:40.59 | sponged | .. so is the snapshot dir the best start point, short of compiling yourself out of cvs? |
| 22:41.50 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: i c |
| 22:41.53 | goxboxlive_ | thanks |
| 22:43.06 | goxboxlive_ | <sponged> if you use the snapshot images you dont have to compile anything yourself. Just install as the HOWTO says. |
| 22:43.38 | goxboxlive_ | But you bether use a linux computer to do it, it's a lot easier that with the Universal. |
| 22:43.46 | cr2 | http://www.smart2go.com/en/index_html |
| 22:43.54 | cr2 | they are quiet too. |
| 22:44.54 | cr2 | the maps can be downloaded if you have the software. the software is not available (coming soon). |
| 22:45.11 | cr2 | let's hope moko will have a better start :) |
| 22:45.19 | sponged | gbl: to format the sd card? yep, was planning to do that. Thanks. |
| 22:45.21 | goxboxlive_ | Yes i know, i have read about it |
| 22:45.27 | goxboxlive_ | good |
| 22:47.59 | goxboxlive_ | It seem like the A780 gps version has only been available in UK and Germany. |
| 22:50.07 | cr2 | maybe. |
| 22:51.36 | sponged | Um, if I don't have a SIM in the Universal, will that stop it booting, or do other bad stuff? |
| 22:52.58 | goxboxlive_ | no |
| 22:53.03 | goxboxlive_ | no problem |
| 22:54.12 | sponged | Ok, thanks.. bye for now. |
| 22:54.25 | goxboxlive_ | bye |