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00:00.08BabelOcr2: ok my directories are good now
00:09.16cr2BabelO: commit them :)
00:10.12BabelOi m looking for the right command ( too many time i didn't make this in unix command line :( )
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00:14.04cr2cvs add
00:14.12cr2for the directores
00:14.54cr2well, you can do 'cvs import' but i will not advice to do it if you don't know what you are doing :)
00:15.32stdfxhi all
00:15.50stdfxsorry, i'm here by pure accident...
00:16.25stdfxdoes existance of this channel means i can install linux on my htc device?
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00:25.05BabelOcr2: sorry for the log :(
01:03.08BabelOcr2: are you here ?
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09:37.47BabelOhi
09:50.29__scatterlol
09:50.36__scatterthere all sleeping
09:50.39__scatterwrong time of day
09:51.14BabelO__scatter : yes or maybe at office like me :)
09:52.15__scatterme yeah
09:52.15Fossiexactly
09:52.28__scatterbeen fixing a ddos attack all day
09:52.32__scatter:S
10:20.32gxl|workHi BabelO: Both gnokii and Opie2 is failing. Gnokii is configureing but failes when doing make. I guess i have to compile gnokii before i start makeing Opie2 so probably tahts why Opie2 failes.
10:21.44BabelOgxl|work : : yes, does gnokii fail at link time ?
10:22.18gxl|workhold on let me check
10:23.01BabelOi need to add some ifdef to allow building opie2 without gnokii
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10:32.15gxl|workBabelO: http://pastebin.ca/318281
10:33.34BabelOah, i think i understand :)
10:33.52BabelOdid you replay configure for gnokii ?
10:34.48BabelOif yes need to add --host=arm-linux i think --prefix=/where/is/your/opie/image/usr
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10:38.01goxboxliveWhat do you mean by "replay" configure? I have done configure both for opie2 and gnokii
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10:42.42BabelOgoxboxlive: ok, do you append --host and --prefix to gnokii configure ?
10:43.18goxboxliveyes now, but not sure about the prefix xoince i dont have any image directory under opie source
10:43.24goxboxliveor shadow build directory
10:43.50goxboxlives/xoince/since/
10:44.19BabelOfor --prefix i use mys NFS opie image
10:44.45goxboxliveok, so you allready have a opie image buildt
10:45.08goxboxliveI am noit running over nfs so i have to build opie after gnokii :-)
10:45.44BabelOgoxboxlive : i use an universal root filesystem and use it for all opie link
10:45.54goxboxliveok
10:46.06goxboxlivei'll try that
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10:59.36BabelOgo i m cleaning gnokii code ( because i doing a lot of dirty thing to add a quick HTC support )
11:01.00goxboxliveBabelO: Ok, good. We you have it clean, could you then commit it to xanadux
11:01.31goxboxliveI see there are some missing files in xanadaux, like the configure file
11:02.46BabelOgoxboxlive : :yes, this evening only...  missing file are only for gnokii ?
11:04.20BabelOgoxboxlive: ah yes, i see configure missing in htcphone directory, i do it soon
11:04.36goxboxlivegood
11:05.30goxboxliveIt also seems like the gnokii directories are empty
11:06.15BabelOfor gnokii , i know, i m adding plug to support universal, blueangel and magician (it is same as ba with some more at command like AT+CVOL maybe)
11:06.45goxboxliveok
11:07.58BabelOif you can build with file i send to you, then we can make some tests, and after only patch some file to add other functionnality ( not full build)
11:15.07goxboxliveok, good
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21:35.56sir_rokris there anyone in here that might be able to help me with a hardware question?
21:36.19iggywe'll never know if you don't ask ;)
21:36.57sir_rokrwell, i was looking at the port for the htc blueangel, and i was wondering if anyone knows if it could possibly work on a harrier instead
21:37.51sir_rokras far as i know, the only differences are cdma radio and no wifi
21:38.16sir_rokrand i don't really care about the radio, because my contract ended and i got a new phone
21:39.59iggyit looks like it is lumped into the BlueAngel work
21:40.15sir_rokrso chances are it would work?
21:40.29iggythe mention of the NZ Telecom Harrier and XV6600 on the BlueAngel page lead me to think that anyways
21:40.53sir_rokri didn't see the xv6600 mentioned
21:41.00sir_rokrbut i am rather tired atm
21:41.14iggythe second to last model in the list of models at the top of the page
21:41.16sir_rokri see it now
21:41.38sir_rokrthanks, i'm getting kinda sick of wm2003  lol
21:42.42Ralithhey
21:44.02Ralithanybody know what state Universal GPRS is in?
21:44.43iggythe wiki says no gprs yet
21:45.11Ralithit says "WIP" :P
21:45.30iggyGSM-module  Part.  Works, but issues with mic, no GPRS yet
21:45.38Ralithah.
21:45.47Ralither
21:45.50Ralithwhere do you see that?
21:45.56Ralithdon't see it on hh.org universalstatus
21:46.07iggyhttp://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal
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21:47.55Ralithah.
21:48.01Ralithwhat's RNDIS? :P
21:48.55iggyWM5 usb eth stuff iirc
21:49.35Ralithwhy's that on the linux port page, then?
21:50.17iggyygiagam
21:51.00RalithO.o
22:38.12Ralithis there a way to make WM5 not turn off wifi when it sleeps?
22:38.30Ralithwhen usin GPRS connections survive over extended periods, but it seems to shut off wifi as often as possible
22:39.35iggyit's by design... wifi is much more power hungry than cell radios
22:40.15iggythere very well may not be a way to change that... it could be a function of the power mgmt chip (if there is one)
22:52.36Ralithiggy, well, here where I'm using wifi, I can plug in easily :P
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22:57.40Ivanplease
22:57.42Ivani need help
22:57.53Ralithorly?
22:58.00Ivani know that this isn't htc-windows mobile help channel
22:58.18Ivani have accidentally putted my qtek 9090 in bootloader
22:58.22Ivanhow to get out?
22:58.24Ivanplease!
22:58.27Ralithsoft reset it :P
22:58.45Ivanwon't
22:58.52Ralith?
22:58.58Ivani press button in hole but nothing happends
22:59.23Ivanon screen only says serial: v2.05
22:59.24Ralithtake out the battery and put it back in
22:59.41Ivansame thing
22:59.52Ralithit goes back into bootloader?
23:00.04Ivanit just says serial: v2.05
23:00.51Ralithdunno how to help you, sorry
23:01.01Ivanthx anyway
23:02.29Ivani will take out battery for half hour or more, i think that then will loose all data..
23:02.40Ralithdunno
23:03.33Ivancan you tell me irc channel of xda-developers? if any
23:05.16Ivanxda-developers.com www site doesn't work.. at least for me..
23:06.43RalithI think it's down at the moment
23:06.45Ralithtry again tomorrow?
23:08.31RoEngn8
23:08.47Ivanprob is that qtek isn't mine..
23:09.10Ivani switched with my friend for a week.. he will kill me.. i need to return him qtek tommorow
23:11.58lilliputIvan, I think you only chance is to reflash it if your are stuck into the bootloader
23:12.06lilliputbut you may ask first
23:12.19Ivanhow i can reflash it?
23:12.30Ivanwindows doesn't reckognise it
23:12.37Ivannor active sync..
23:12.43Ivanwindows just say usb device
23:12.50lilliputyep normal
23:13.09Ivanoh.. when i put qtek in cradle, it says USB on screen.. not anymore serial
23:13.14lilliputwhich rom is/was in the pda ?
23:13.35Ivandefault T-Mobile croatia rom.. never changed..
23:13.38Ivani really don't know
23:13.48Ivanwindows mobile 2003SE sure was in it..
23:14.00lilliputlooked in t-mobile croatia if there is any rom
23:14.06Ivannope
23:14.16lilliputeek
23:14.28lilliputno update nothing at all ?
23:14.41Ivannop
23:14.44lilliputnot even an english version ?
23:14.49Ivannop
23:14.51Ivannothin
23:14.59lilliputthat's not good
23:15.03Ivancan i flash qtek with BaUpgradeUt
23:15.05Ivanand
23:15.13IvanHelmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v.1.4
23:15.14Ivanrom
23:15.36lilliputtry to check the xda-devel ftp
23:16.00Ivanprobably doesn't work but i will check
23:16.04lilliputwhat BaUpgradeUT
23:16.25Ivanutility i got with that rom
23:16.29Ivanfrom xda-developers
23:17.18lilliputduno what it is exactly
23:18.00lilliputthere are some special keys to put the pda into rom upgrade
23:18.00Ivanwell
23:18.04Ivani started upgrade
23:18.06Ivanwith that utility
23:18.12lilliputok
23:18.15Ivanand screen on qtek changed
23:18.18Ivansays upgrade
23:18.19IvanCE
23:18.21Ivancompleted
23:18.26Ivanand counting
23:18.33Ivancurrently on 30%
23:18.38lilliputseems ok then
23:18.43Ivanyeah..
23:18.56lilliputyou will have loose all the contact and etc ..
23:19.08Ivani have backuped contacs on my sim card
23:19.14Ivanand i have PIM backups
23:19.16lilliputyou mate may still be mad unless you did a full backup
23:19.28Ivani have full backup
23:19.49Ivanbut i am not sure will it work because i backuped that on wm2003 and i am upgrading on wm05
23:20.02Ralithyou should be able to get files off it at least
23:20.14Ivanyeah..
23:21.13lilliputIvan, I am thinking of going to Croatia this summer
23:21.28Ivanwhere are you from?
23:22.30lilliputFrance but I'm currently am in the UK
23:22.31Ivanhey cool
23:22.33Ivanupgraded
23:22.37lilliputcool
23:22.48Ivannow i had 4 colurs on my display
23:23.03Ivanboot-up
23:23.06IvanWORKS!
23:23.07Ivanthank god
23:23.09lilliputwhich version have you installed wm3 or wm5 ?
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23:23.15Ivanwm5
23:23.23Ivan<Ivan> Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v.1.4
23:23.34Ivanbut i am thinkin about backing to wm2003
23:23.41Ivani really think that is safer :)
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23:23.49Ivaneven for my nerves and for me
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23:23.59lilliputcheck if it is slower or not
23:24.20lilliputthere are some optimisation some how in the wm5 version
23:24.25lilliputsomehow
23:25.39lilliputneed to go be careful next time but I'm sure you will be
23:25.46lilliput:)
23:26.15lilliputthis is the kind of stuff that we are only doing once and remember for a long long time
23:26.16Ivancool
23:26.22Ivanit looks great
23:27.50Ivanholy mother of god..
23:28.05Ivanin device information says
23:28.19Ivan1193028hr of outgoing calls..
23:28.35Ivanlittle too much..
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23:28.47Ivanabout 17 years too much..
23:28.47lilliputyeah it is a known funny issue
23:29.05Ivanis there any way to fix it?
23:29.19lilliputreset the counter
23:29.26lilliputyou need to search the web
23:29.41Ivanhm okay.. thx on moral support :)
23:29.49lilliputno pb
23:29.49Ivanthanks
23:30.15lilliputas long as you keep a rom around your are 'safe' normally
23:30.23Ivanhaha..
23:30.38Ralithhehe
23:30.40lilliputsome people had to wait 2 months before the release of the first wm5 rom
23:31.01lilliputso they had a brique during that time ..
23:31.06lilliputno kidding
23:31.14Ralithdaamn
23:32.00lilliputbed time
23:32.15Ivanlilliput i can recommend you Dubrovnik, Split, Zadar, Pula, Porec and Rovinj to visit..
23:32.21Ivanbut it is your choice
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23:33.20lilliputIvan, thank you, I'll keep a note though of one week with visits and a second one more relax but still visiting some stuff
23:33.56Ivanlilliput.. i have feeling that camera quality is better in wm05..
23:34.19lilliputshould just be a feeling ;)
23:34.29DaWolfeyhey there - anyone got any info on why the xda-developers site has gone offline ?
23:34.38lilliputthe hardware is still the same they only may have optimised the driver
23:36.45DaWolfeyoh , it's just come back up
23:36.56DaWolfeytypical
23:38.31Ralithheh
23:38.38Ralithit was down for us too, though
23:38.46Ivanbye
23:38.49Ivanand thanks again!
23:39.13DaWolfeylooks like there's some maintenance going on - i didn't notice the annoucement
23:39.57DaWolfeyis this channel only for the discussion of getting linux on htc devices ?  is there a more general htc channel ?
23:47.48RalithDaWolfey, afaik this is the only channel like this, and I've not been yelled at yet for getting offtopic
23:48.40DaWolfeyso if I were to ask a question about updating the rom on my universal, that would be ok ?
23:49.47Ralithask me; I just did it yesterday ^_^
23:49.52DaWolfeyheh
23:50.06DaWolfeyok well i just tried to update to Helmi_UNI_AKU3.5_v1.3
23:50.19Ralithdid you update your bootloader first?
23:50.26DaWolfeyno, and I think that's my issue
23:50.27Raliththe latest AKUs need 1.01
23:50.28Ralithyeah
23:50.34Ralithsee the xda wiki for info on that
23:50.43DaWolfeypresumably when you don't, when it reboots to do the update it simply just boots back into wm ?
23:50.49Ralith*shrug*
23:50.51Ralithno idea
23:50.59Ralithjust be glad if you didn't brick it :P
23:51.24DaWolfeyguess i'll read the wiki on updating the bootloader
23:51.34DaWolfeythanks for the tip
23:51.36Ralithyeah, I don't think it's unlocked
23:51.41Ralithis your Universal SuperCID?
23:52.01DaWolfeywhat's that ?
23:52.06Ralitherm.
23:52.11Ralithhave you unlocked your universal?
23:52.38DaWolfeyno, it's just a standard o2 xda exec (uk) with the latest official o2 rom
23:56.32DaWolfeyso first I need to go through http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Simlock_by_Buzz_and_team ?
23:56.44DaWolfeythen http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Upgrade%20bootloader%20from%201.00%20to%201.01
23:56.57DaWolfeythen I can do the helmi rom ?
23:57.06Ralithyeah.
23:57.13DaWolfeyi hate being a noob :(
23:57.13Ralithbe sure to back up everything
23:57.25Ralithbecause at least one of the steps yer going through is going to wipe all your data
23:57.48DaWolfeyalready done that, thanks for the tip though
23:58.03Ralithgood luck
23:58.06Ralithtell me how it goes
23:58.07Ralith:)

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