00:00.15 | daxxar | Thanks for your info |
00:02.45 | Ralith | I was just enjoying the chance to show off my new gadget ^_^ |
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01:44.11 | certf | hello |
01:44.44 | certf | anybody who have been successful with familiar linux on htc |
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01:52.24 | certf | anybody who have been successful with familiar linux on htc |
02:06.39 | Kevin2 | I've started familiar 0.8.4 on my HTC Apache. |
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03:20.00 | blackest | hi all :) |
03:20.41 | blackest | anyone awake with universal ? |
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03:43.48 | Ralith | blackes1, yeah, but I'm not a dev or anything |
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05:22.47 | Ralith | ok, why does gprs die whenever activesync is running? |
05:22.52 | Ralith | and how do I kill activesync? |
06:01.42 | the_sys0p | Ralith: You can kill ActiveSync by going to Start -> Settings -> System-> Memory -> Running Programs, and killing it from that list. |
06:01.42 | the_sys0p | Ralith: But to kill it, you will need to make sure it only tries to sync manually, otherwise it will auto-start in order to complete a sync it's scheduled for. |
06:02.42 | the_sys0p | But as for why GPRS is dying while ActiveSync is running... It will for sure if you connect with USB to sync, but I'm not sure why it would otherwise, unless it is trying to connect over bluetooth or wireless maybe... |
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06:12.17 | longphi | hello all |
06:12.25 | longphi | can you halp me |
06:15.09 | the_sys0p | longphi: You'll have to be more specific. :) |
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06:20.47 | longphi | alo |
06:26.06 | longphivn | alo |
06:26.13 | longphivn | can you help me |
06:26.45 | the_sys0p | With what? |
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06:29.43 | longphivn | my PDA is HTC- Blue-angle |
06:29.55 | longphivn | now i want install linux |
06:30.33 | longphivn | can you help me install it |
06:30.44 | the_sys0p | Sorry...I don't know the process for the BlueAngel... Maybe http://www.handhelds.org/ will have more information? |
06:32.49 | longphivn | thank |
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10:24.17 | rob_w | guys can someone make me script to dump a all red thing directly to fb ? |
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13:47.42 | gxl|work | hello everybody. |
13:48.15 | BabelO | hello gxl|work |
13:48.39 | BabelO | this evening i send you some new stuff for opieII :) |
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14:35.39 | gxl|work | BabelO: Cool, i havent worked on it since last time you sent me some stuff. So they "stuff |
14:35.46 | gxl|work | is realy welcommed. |
14:37.03 | gxl|work | BabelO: lpotter asked me if we had some configuration stuff for the source. Maybe you should ask him to join the developer team and add stuff to the source. |
14:37.46 | gxl|work | Isent "htcphone" ready to be added? |
14:37.46 | gxl|work | bbl. |
14:38.08 | BabelO | gxl|work : : i ve already join developer team at opieII, but need some test before send my patch |
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15:52.15 | pandabear | Aloha |
15:53.13 | pandabear | pH5: I have a small question, how do I modify your setup to use just one partition on the sd disk (i copied haret, kernel and default.txt to the storage area of the magician) |
15:54.06 | pandabear | I guess in the commandline for the kernel needs to say root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 to get the first partition |
15:54.16 | pH5 | pandabear: exactly. just edit default.txt |
15:54.21 | pandabear | but i am unsure about the fstab |
15:54.21 | Fossi | i once witnessed somebody saying that on another irc network and was swamped with messages from a guy from hawaii, so when on the inet, i don't use the greeting any more ;D |
15:54.39 | pH5 | :) |
15:55.01 | pH5 | pandabear: I don't think you need to change fstab at all |
15:55.10 | pandabear | hehe, yeah they are kinda disturbed with non hawaiians using it without knowing what it means |
15:55.24 | pandabear | alright, I'll give it a try |
15:56.06 | pH5 | pandabear: thanks, I should update the comment in fstab if this works as I expect. |
16:03.52 | pandabear | hrmm, is there anyway to make wince boot faster after a hard reset ? |
16:07.04 | pandabear | grmbl, me idiot |
16:07.38 | pandabear | this rebooting sucks, there must be another way =( |
16:12.12 | pH5 | pandabear: disassemble the wince kernel, find the calibration+cut&paste-tutorial code and patch it to skip it ;) |
16:13.15 | pH5 | it also helps to empty the extrom (my o2 rom wanted to install all kinds of stuff and then reboot again) |
16:17.00 | pandabear | sounds not to easy |
16:19.17 | pandabear | the tutorial stuff wouldn't even be the worst, it's just that he loads a crapload of stuff at the beginning from some config file which i can't find |
16:19.57 | pH5 | pandabear: I have no idea how to do the first, but removing the extrom is easily done by flashing one of those 'bigstorage' images that you can find in the xda-developer forums |
16:20.52 | pandabear | chance of failure and ruining the pda is pretty low I hope ? |
16:22.10 | pH5 | pandabear: I guess ;) |
16:23.08 | pH5 | as long as the htc bootloader isn't overwritten, it is always possible to reflash |
16:23.53 | pandabear | alright, I'll see what I can do with it |
16:24.29 | pandabear | is the default.txt borked as soon as I edit it with the wince editor ? |
16:24.37 | pandabear | seems like he can't load it anymore =( |
16:25.11 | pandabear | ah got it |
16:25.42 | pandabear | alright, it boots fine with just editing the default.tx |
16:25.43 | pandabear | alright, it boots fine with just editing the default.txt |
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16:32.58 | pandabear | pH5: another thing, whenever I remove the sdcard (magician in stdby of course) and try to copy something onto this card it takes ages |
16:34.47 | pandabear | pH5: And then I can't even find what I copied onto the card, do I need to make two partitions with one for the exchangable files and the other one for the normal system ? |
16:35.49 | pH5 | pandabear: strange things happen if you change the contents while it is mounted. no idea why it is slow. |
16:38.22 | BabelO | pandabear, pH5 : you can't remove SD card for the moment it is not an hotplug driver i think |
16:38.31 | pandabear | pH5: hrm, does it still work on the sd card while in sleep ? would be hard to exchange files then =( |
16:38.43 | pH5 | the correct way would be to unmount the sd before removing it, but for that some parts of the system have to be moved to ram |
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16:39.38 | pandabear | I haven't tried unmounting yet |
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16:40.04 | pH5 | pandabear: with two partitions you can pull it off: unmount the data partition, suspend, write something to the data partition only, put the sd back in, resume and mount again |
16:40.06 | pH5 | that should work |
16:40.21 | BabelO | pH5 : i ve same problem if i boot from NFS, can't use again SD card if i remove it and plug it again |
16:41.07 | pH5 | BabelO: strange. are the sd card interrupt and power gpios correctly registered? |
16:42.19 | BabelO | pH5 : : yes, cr2 tell me that is a normal thing with asic3 mmc driver.. ca'nt detect unplug and replug, not implemented maybe |
16:42.20 | pH5 | the problem here is that the rootfs is mounted on sd, and as soon as you remove the sd (while running), you get I/O errors. cleanly unmounting rootfs is obviously impossible, unless you pivot_root into a ramfs or something like that. |
16:42.36 | pH5 | ah :) magician is simple, no asic3, but pxamci instead |
16:43.00 | BabelO | pH5 : ah ok sorry, maybe another thing :) |
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17:09.10 | pandabear | pH5: the systems with the two partitions works great |
17:09.18 | pandabear | pH5: thanks for your help |
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17:12.24 | pandabear | k, I am off for now, guess I'll come back soon =) |
17:45.56 | rmoravcik | psokolovsky_: ping |
17:49.24 | psokolovsky_ | rmoravcik, pong |
17:54.16 | rmoravcik | psokolovsky_: what do you think about this patch http://morgan.fbi.cz/pub/rx3715/patches/rx3715_rename_to_rx3000.patch? |
17:55.48 | psokolovsky_ | rmoravcik, If that's from you, and you want to have it applied, I much appeciate that. |
17:58.00 | rmoravcik | psokolovsky_: yes, it is from me, later we can rename mach-rx3715.c to mach-rx3000.c, but we can make that in mainstream |
18:04.07 | psokolovsky_ | rmoravcik, ok, thanks, I will apply it (and will also make sure the history is preserved for renames). |
18:05.21 | psokolovsky_ | rmoravcik, as for asic3_base clk changes, we'd need to consider the way to solve it a bit more. I'd vote to make PXA's struct clk match s3's as the solution (I'm sure you know that PXA's clk are not in mainline actually) |
18:11.22 | rmoravcik | psokolovsky_: that would be great if you make pxa clk struct that match s3c |
18:12.18 | psokolovsky_ | rmoravcik, will raise that suggestion, and unless Matt Reimer has other strong reasons to make it otherwise, hopefully we'll do it like that. |
18:14.23 | rmoravcik | psokolovsky_: where i can post patches for oe, i have patch to blueprobe and irda-utils, openembedded-devel m-l? |
18:15.07 | psokolovsky_ | rmoravcik, no, to bugtracker, http://bugs.openembedded.org . please submit each patch separately ;-) |
18:15.26 | rmoravcik | psokolovsky_: ok, thanks |
18:15.31 | psokolovsky_ | rmoravcik, and if you have better kernel defconfig, than one which is there, please submit too |
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19:32.38 | BabelO | hi |
19:32.50 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
19:33.25 | BabelO | pH5: have you some issue with ds1wm ? |
19:34.37 | BabelO | and other wuestion what is your postfix and prefix sequence for the phone ? |
19:34.53 | pH5 | BabelO: not that I know of. Today I had a problem with the battery not charging that I have yet to debug, but the ds1wm readouts work just fine. |
19:35.03 | BabelO | s/wuestion/question/ |
19:35.14 | pH5 | prefix: 0x02 0x16 |
19:35.16 | pH5 | postfix: 0x02 |
19:35.32 | BabelO | ok same as BA |
19:35.40 | pH5 | though when reading, the packets sometimes arive with more than just one 0x02 in the beginning |
19:35.51 | pH5 | (ie 0x02 0x02 0x16 <data> 0x02 |
19:35.52 | pH5 | ) |
19:36.50 | BabelO | pH5: yes same issue with BA, there is lot of 0x02 into string answer |
19:38.14 | pH5 | BabelO: this isn't too surprising, given that it is the same chipset and nearly(?) the same radio firmware :) |
19:39.06 | BabelO | yes, i use a modified libgnokii to parse all at command |
19:40.08 | pH5 | BabelO: do you have working gprs? |
19:41.15 | BabelO | no, i make some test few weeks ago with modeule dpram, but no connection |
19:42.11 | pH5 | :/ I tried to play back the sequence I captured with haret, but I don't get anything out of the data port (ttyS0) yet. |
19:42.49 | BabelO | how it work with magician ? another multiplex string ? |
19:43.51 | pH5 | BabelO: no multiplexing at all. the at commands to initiate the gprs connection go to ttyS1 as usual, and then the connection data goes to ttyS0. |
19:45.17 | BabelO | oh ? always on ttyS0 :) so little different than BA |
19:47.52 | pH5 | uh. two setbacks in one day :( cpufreq hangs with 2.6.20-rc5 and I don't get the radio bootloader to run from within linux.. |
19:59.57 | BabelO | pH5: so sound is working on magician, full uda1380 support :) |
20:00.41 | pH5 | BabelO: I can't record yet, but this is only a matter of enough time to play a bit with the uda1380 registers, I hope. |
20:01.16 | pH5 | but playback works just fine |
20:02.05 | BabelO | pH5: ok, on Ba i ve a strange thing that happens when i use a ATDT command, mic is working alone ... but never modprobed something about sound |
20:03.13 | pH5 | BabelO: same here. that is because the mic is connected directly to the ti baseband *and* to the uda1380 |
20:03.30 | pH5 | the chips are completely independent of each other |
20:03.50 | pH5 | I can make phone calls without the sound card driver loaded, too. |
20:06.38 | BabelO | pH5: ok, so i ve to ask asylumed if he found something about ds1wm hang |
20:07.46 | pH5 | BabelO: yes, this seems to be ba specific for a change. |
20:09.41 | goxboxlive | Hi BabelO: Do yo have something 4 me? :-) |
20:11.44 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive, if you want i send you something :) |
20:11.45 | BabelO | all compile, but need some change to gnokii |
20:12.00 | goxboxlive | good |
20:13.55 | BabelO | i m doing zip file for you::) |
20:14.46 | goxboxlive | :-) |
20:21.59 | BabelO | goxboxlive mail sent |
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20:23.12 | goxboxlive | thank you |
20:24.48 | goxboxlive | BabelO: When compiling a new qtopia image, should i delete my existing build area (shadow building), or is it just to rebuild from it? |
20:26.19 | BabelO | i think you have to reconfigure from scratch |
20:26.50 | goxboxlive | yes, and then i shuold delete all stuff in the build folder, right? |
20:27.05 | goxboxlive | Is there anything i should edit before start building? |
20:28.03 | BabelO | no i think nothing to edit, i don't know for build folder |
20:29.00 | goxboxlive | ok thx a lot |
20:30.57 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
20:35.22 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok, what about the custom-universal.cpp. SHould that be renamed to custom.cpp or is it OK |
20:35.51 | BabelO | no, it is for later use |
20:37.52 | goxboxlive | BabelO Should gnokii be buld with anty prefix or something or is it just straight forward ./configure ? |
20:38.31 | BabelO | i don't think....... i ve done it by hand after |
20:39.48 | goxboxlive | ok, then i start |
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21:29.54 | c0ffee | moin |
21:30.02 | BabelO | plus ? |
21:30.05 | BabelO | :) |
21:31.22 | c0ffee | i saw there are some information available on the vendor specific commands for the brf6150 chip |
21:32.02 | c0ffee | i wonder whether somebody (cr2 supplied the infos in the xda wiki) could point me at the command required to route sco traffic over hci instead of directly to the sound hardware |
21:34.18 | c0ffee | btw, there's meanwhile a brf6150 kernel module available for linux - but it doesn't include any ti vendor specific extensions yet |
21:38.14 | BabelO | c0ffee: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBluetooth |
21:38.28 | c0ffee | yes, that's the wiki page i was refering to |
21:38.54 | cr2 | c0ffee: what kernel module ? |
21:38.56 | BabelO | ok, in linux w use hciattach command to load a vendor sqpecific bts file |
21:39.26 | c0ffee | cr2, the nokia 770 uses the brf6150 chip as well, and nokia released a driver for it |
21:39.33 | BabelO | cr2: i ve write access |
21:40.15 | cr2 | c0ffee: the commands in the wiki are from the *.bts scripts and also observed by tracing the BT setup. there are no docs. |
21:40.42 | cr2 | BabelO: to the xanadux CVS ? |
21:41.00 | c0ffee | cr2, is it possible to route SCO traffic through HCI with these commands? |
21:41.17 | BabelO | cr2: yes, can you define an emty tree ? |
21:41.30 | cr2 | c0ffee: where can i look at the module source ? |
21:41.40 | c0ffee | sec, i'm searching for a link |
21:42.17 | cr2 | c0ffee: it's difficult to say. many commands are just patching some RAM/memory locations. |
21:42.35 | cr2 | the only voice-specific command is 208 |
21:44.17 | cr2 | c0ffee: and TI has released the chipset data only to SDGsystems under NDA. |
21:44.25 | c0ffee | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/bora/free/source/kernel-source-rx-34_2.6.18.orig.tar.gz |
21:44.31 | cr2 | thanks. |
21:44.42 | c0ffee | it's drivers/bluetooth/brf6150.{c,h} |
21:44.52 | cr2 | so we only know what wince does to setup the chip. |
21:45.12 | c0ffee | there's also a kernel patch in this directory that fixes some bluetooth specific stuff |
21:45.24 | cr2 | i'll have a look. |
21:46.09 | c0ffee | the nokia maintainer said that there is a command |
21:46.20 | c0ffee | and that he's not sure whether he may tell which |
21:46.44 | cr2 | can you redirect and trace the serial port in linux ? |
21:47.08 | c0ffee | of the bt chip? |
21:47.42 | cr2 | we use the PXA debugging hardware in wince to dump all memory accesses. written by Kevin, very smart stuff. |
21:47.43 | cr2 | yes. |
21:47.48 | c0ffee | well |
21:47.57 | c0ffee | there are no binaries that would access the chip |
21:48.12 | cr2 | it's a pity. |
21:48.12 | c0ffee | the 770 comes with linux preinstalled |
21:48.22 | cr2 | no binary modules ? |
21:48.33 | c0ffee | well, opera and flash player are binary |
21:48.37 | c0ffee | and such stuff |
21:48.40 | cr2 | ok. |
21:49.03 | cr2 | motorola used a different bt stack on their phones. |
21:49.10 | cr2 | to support the headset |
21:49.19 | cr2 | binary-only ;) |
21:49.36 | cr2 | but not brf6150. |
21:50.30 | c0ffee | according to what people say it's better to route the sco traffic directly to the sound hardware |
21:50.38 | c0ffee | which requires a lot of undocumented commands |
21:50.56 | c0ffee | but it would be easier, to route the sco traffic as hci traffic through the cpu |
21:51.29 | c0ffee | because that would require exactly one undocumented command |
21:51.45 | cr2 | the sound hardware on our phones (ak4641) is mono. |
21:52.15 | cr2 | well, are your undocumented commands in the list ? |
21:52.23 | c0ffee | no idea |
21:52.29 | c0ffee | because i don't have the documents as well |
21:52.33 | c0ffee | i hoped you had |
21:53.00 | cr2 | because you can get an idea what are the parameters, that are used. |
21:53.29 | cr2 | i didn't want to overload the table, and put only the number of the params. but the full data is available. |
21:54.04 | c0ffee | is the full data available somewhere? |
21:54.05 | cr2 | no, it's all under NDA. |
21:54.35 | c0ffee | hum :/ |
21:54.50 | cr2 | your only chance is to trace/RE a working system. |
21:55.22 | c0ffee | or bug the nokia guy :) |
21:55.25 | cr2 | i've done my best. |
21:55.30 | cr2 | yeah. |
21:58.12 | cr2 | do you know any other devices that use brf6150 ? |
22:00.46 | cr2 | err = request_firmware(&info->fw_entry, "brf6150fw.bin", &brf6150_device.dev); |
22:00.53 | cr2 | do you have this *.bin file ? |
22:04.06 | c0ffee | yes |
22:04.08 | cr2 | the driver is unbelievable bloatware ;) it's all is done by hciattach on our devices. |
22:04.15 | c0ffee | i don't know of other devices, no |
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22:05.22 | cr2 | i can post/send you the code i've ripped out from hciattach to parse the "firmware" |
22:05.25 | cr2 | ok. |
22:06.18 | c0ffee | i made myself a program that translates a .bts file to a format you can read with hcidump |
22:06.24 | c0ffee | is that approx the same? |
22:06.59 | cr2 | yes, i dump it in text format. |
22:07.38 | cr2 | well, hcidump format is even better. |
22:07.50 | c0ffee | you just have to add a hcidump header before each send and wait-event data blob |
22:09.10 | cr2 | lookin at it. |
22:10.42 | cr2 | yes, something like that. |
22:11.37 | c0ffee | do you have those seperate bts scripts that enable and disable audio routing? |
22:13.03 | cr2 | hmm. i know the 0x208 command that sets mono audio output. |
22:14.10 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
22:14.26 | cr2 | btw, which ROM/fw version you have ? |
22:14.39 | c0ffee | no idea |
22:14.46 | c0ffee | the driver doesn't output anything |
22:15.32 | cr2 | hmm. you don't have the bts header in *.bin |
22:15.50 | c0ffee | i think the firmware is something different that bts |
22:16.11 | c0ffee | according to TI the brf6510 has an arm7tdmi core |
22:16.18 | c0ffee | and i think this firmware is 'real' firmware |
22:16.20 | cr2 | we know 3 ROM/fw versions, they need different verdor-specific commands and parameters. |
22:17.04 | cr2 | if it's real, then there should be a devspecific command to upload it. |
22:17.45 | cr2 | we have a different btaddr in linux and wince, but the "usual" ti btaddr change command is not used. |
22:19.31 | c0ffee | hum true |
22:19.50 | c0ffee | anyway, bbl in 20 min or so |
22:19.55 | cr2 | ok. |
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23:10.12 | cr2 | BabelO: what directory do you need ? |
23:10.17 | BabelO | cr2: we create a clean directory tree like gomunicator or such ? something like opie/src ? |
23:11.27 | cr2 | qtopia ? |
23:11.31 | BabelO | yes, they are the same, only some difference for the moment. after we sent this to lpotter where some tests are done |
23:11.35 | BabelO | s/where/when/ |
23:11.58 | cr2 | now. |
23:12.02 | c0ffee | so |
23:12.02 | c0ffee | wrote a little program that converts the firmware to a hcidump |
23:12.02 | c0ffee | appears to be a bts like thing |
23:12.03 | c0ffee | the first two entries are some special entries, the rest is a list of vendor specific commands |
23:12.07 | c0ffee | cr2, what do the + entries mean in the description field of the command table? |
23:12.11 | cr2 | hm. no response from sf.net CVS ;) |
23:12.26 | BabelO | cr2: yes i see |
23:12.27 | cr2 | + ? there is an older brf6100 version. BabelO uses some custom brf6150 fw on it with the (+) commands |
23:12.28 | c0ffee | <PROTECTED> |
23:12.28 | c0ffee | like this entry? |
23:12.29 | cr2 | the(+) commands are not used by wince on "normal" fw. |
23:12.29 | cr2 | yes. |
23:12.29 | c0ffee | ok |
23:12.31 | cr2 | what are the first two entries in *.bin ? |
23:12.34 | c0ffee | the first is a negotiation request |
23:12.35 | c0ffee | and the second is a alive packet |
23:12.48 | cr2 | ok. |
23:12.50 | c0ffee | lots of undocumented commands in that file :( |
23:12.51 | c0ffee | there is a command 0x0366 with 3 bytes |
23:12.51 | c0ffee | all other commands appear in the table |
23:12.52 | c0ffee | BabelO, where do you have your knowledge about the additional commands from? |
23:13.31 | BabelO | c0ffee: i only know that i got this file since i upgrade my rom to wm5, and now i have a patch to support ad2p, maybe it is related to this |
23:14.00 | cr2 | c0ffee: add them to the list. maybe with ++ |
23:14.11 | c0ffee | i don't have an xda account |
23:14.28 | c0ffee | it's just this one command missing |
23:14.35 | c0ffee | all others are already present |
23:14.39 | c0ffee | just no descriptions |
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23:18.19 | cr2 | ok. |
23:19.49 | c0ffee | do you want the fw2hcidump code as well? |
23:20.15 | c0ffee | i've send a mail to the nokia guy asking him to just release a "firmware" that fixes the sco stuff, let's see what he'll answer |
23:20.50 | cr2 | good idea. |
23:21.14 | cr2 | send it to me. i think i'll put them all somewhere. |
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23:24.36 | cr2 | thanks. |
23:25.17 | c0ffee | yw |
23:29.33 | cr2 | BabelO: added opie2 |
23:29.35 | cr2 | http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux |
23:31.13 | BabelO | cr2: thanks, i m cleaning my directory tree |
23:33.34 | c0ffee | i'll let you know if i figure out something new :) |
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