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00:00.15daxxarThanks for your info
00:02.45RalithI was just enjoying the chance to show off my new gadget ^_^
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01:44.11certfhello
01:44.44certfanybody who have been successful with familiar linux on htc
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01:52.24certfanybody who have been successful with familiar linux on htc
02:06.39Kevin2I've started familiar 0.8.4 on my HTC Apache.
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03:20.00blackesthi all :)
03:20.41blackestanyone awake with universal ?
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03:43.48Ralithblackes1, yeah, but I'm not a dev or anything
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05:22.47Ralithok, why does gprs die whenever activesync is running?
05:22.52Ralithand how do I kill activesync?
06:01.42the_sys0pRalith: You can kill ActiveSync by going to Start -> Settings -> System-> Memory -> Running Programs, and killing it from that list.
06:01.42the_sys0pRalith: But to kill it, you will need to make sure it only tries to sync manually, otherwise it will auto-start in order to complete a sync it's scheduled for.
06:02.42the_sys0pBut as for why GPRS is dying while ActiveSync is running...  It will for sure if you connect with USB to sync, but I'm not sure why it would otherwise, unless it is trying to connect over bluetooth or wireless maybe...
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06:12.17longphihello all
06:12.25longphican you halp me
06:15.09the_sys0plongphi: You'll have to be more specific. :)
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06:20.47longphialo
06:26.06longphivnalo
06:26.13longphivncan you help me
06:26.45the_sys0pWith what?
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06:29.43longphivnmy PDA is HTC- Blue-angle
06:29.55longphivnnow i want install linux
06:30.33longphivncan you help me install it
06:30.44the_sys0pSorry...I don't know the process for the BlueAngel...  Maybe http://www.handhelds.org/ will have more information?
06:32.49longphivnthank
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10:24.17rob_wguys can someone make me script to dump a all red thing directly to fb ?
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13:47.42gxl|workhello everybody.
13:48.15BabelOhello gxl|work
13:48.39BabelOthis evening i send you some new stuff for opieII :)
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14:35.39gxl|workBabelO: Cool, i havent worked on it since last time you sent me some stuff. So they "stuff
14:35.46gxl|workis realy welcommed.
14:37.03gxl|workBabelO: lpotter asked me if we had some configuration stuff for the source. Maybe you should ask him to join the developer team and add stuff to the source.
14:37.46gxl|workIsent "htcphone" ready to be added?
14:37.46gxl|workbbl.
14:38.08BabelOgxl|work : : i ve already join developer team at opieII, but need some test before send my patch
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15:52.15pandabearAloha
15:53.13pandabearpH5: I have a small question, how do I modify your setup to use just one partition on the sd disk (i copied haret, kernel and default.txt to the storage area of the magician)
15:54.06pandabearI guess in the commandline for the kernel needs to say root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 to get the first partition
15:54.16pH5pandabear: exactly. just edit default.txt
15:54.21pandabearbut i am unsure about the fstab
15:54.21Fossii once witnessed somebody saying that on another irc network and was swamped with messages from a guy from hawaii, so when on the inet, i don't use the greeting any more ;D
15:54.39pH5:)
15:55.01pH5pandabear: I don't think you need to change fstab at all
15:55.10pandabearhehe, yeah they are kinda disturbed with non hawaiians using it without knowing what it means
15:55.24pandabearalright, I'll give it a try
15:56.06pH5pandabear: thanks, I should update the comment in fstab if this works as I expect.
16:03.52pandabearhrmm, is there anyway to make wince boot faster after a hard reset ?
16:07.04pandabeargrmbl, me idiot
16:07.38pandabearthis rebooting sucks, there must be another way =(
16:12.12pH5pandabear: disassemble the wince kernel, find the calibration+cut&paste-tutorial code and patch it to skip it ;)
16:13.15pH5it also helps to empty the extrom (my o2 rom wanted to install all kinds of stuff and then reboot again)
16:17.00pandabearsounds not to easy
16:19.17pandabearthe tutorial stuff wouldn't even be the worst, it's just that he loads a crapload of stuff at the beginning from some config file which i can't find
16:19.57pH5pandabear: I have no idea how to do the first, but removing the extrom is easily done by flashing one of those 'bigstorage' images that you can find in the xda-developer forums
16:20.52pandabearchance of failure and ruining the pda is pretty low I hope ?
16:22.10pH5pandabear: I guess ;)
16:23.08pH5as long as the htc bootloader isn't overwritten, it is always possible to reflash
16:23.53pandabearalright, I'll see what I can do with it
16:24.29pandabearis the default.txt borked as soon as I edit it with the wince editor ?
16:24.37pandabearseems like he can't load it anymore =(
16:25.11pandabearah got it
16:25.42pandabearalright, it boots fine with just editing the default.tx
16:25.43pandabearalright, it boots fine with just editing the default.txt
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16:32.58pandabearpH5: another thing, whenever I remove the sdcard (magician in stdby of course) and try to copy something onto this card it takes ages
16:34.47pandabearpH5: And then I can't even find what I copied onto the card, do I need to make two partitions with one for the exchangable files and the other one for the normal system ?
16:35.49pH5pandabear: strange things happen if you change the contents while it is mounted. no idea why it is slow.
16:38.22BabelOpandabear, pH5 : you can't remove SD card for the moment it is not an hotplug driver i think
16:38.31pandabearpH5: hrm, does it still work on the sd card while in sleep ? would be hard to exchange files then =(
16:38.43pH5the correct way would be to unmount the sd before removing it, but for that some parts of the system have to be moved to ram
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16:39.38pandabearI haven't tried unmounting yet
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16:40.04pH5pandabear: with two partitions you can pull it off: unmount the data partition, suspend, write something to the data partition only, put the sd back in, resume and mount again
16:40.06pH5that should work
16:40.21BabelOpH5 : i ve same problem if i boot from NFS, can't use again SD card if i remove it and plug it again
16:41.07pH5BabelO: strange. are the sd card interrupt and power gpios correctly registered?
16:42.19BabelOpH5 : : yes, cr2 tell me that is a normal thing with asic3 mmc driver.. ca'nt detect unplug and replug, not implemented maybe
16:42.20pH5the problem here is that the rootfs is mounted on sd, and as soon as you remove the sd (while running), you get I/O errors. cleanly unmounting rootfs is obviously impossible, unless you pivot_root into a ramfs or something like that.
16:42.36pH5ah :) magician is simple, no asic3, but pxamci instead
16:43.00BabelOpH5 : ah ok sorry, maybe another thing :)
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17:09.10pandabearpH5: the systems with the two partitions works great
17:09.18pandabearpH5: thanks for your help
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17:12.24pandabeark, I am off for now, guess I'll come back soon =)
17:45.56rmoravcikpsokolovsky_: ping
17:49.24psokolovsky_rmoravcik, pong
17:54.16rmoravcikpsokolovsky_: what do you think about this patch http://morgan.fbi.cz/pub/rx3715/patches/rx3715_rename_to_rx3000.patch?
17:55.48psokolovsky_rmoravcik, If that's from you, and you want to have it applied, I much appeciate that.
17:58.00rmoravcikpsokolovsky_: yes, it is from me, later we can rename mach-rx3715.c to mach-rx3000.c, but we can make that in mainstream
18:04.07psokolovsky_rmoravcik, ok, thanks, I will apply it (and will also make sure the history is preserved for renames).
18:05.21psokolovsky_rmoravcik, as for asic3_base clk changes, we'd need to consider the way to solve it a bit more. I'd vote to make PXA's struct clk match s3's as the solution (I'm sure you know that PXA's clk are not in mainline actually)
18:11.22rmoravcikpsokolovsky_: that would be great if you make pxa clk struct that match s3c
18:12.18psokolovsky_rmoravcik, will raise that suggestion, and unless Matt Reimer has other strong reasons to make it otherwise, hopefully we'll do it like that.
18:14.23rmoravcikpsokolovsky_: where i can post patches for oe, i have patch to blueprobe and irda-utils, openembedded-devel m-l?
18:15.07psokolovsky_rmoravcik, no, to bugtracker, http://bugs.openembedded.org . please submit each patch separately ;-)
18:15.26rmoravcikpsokolovsky_: ok, thanks
18:15.31psokolovsky_rmoravcik, and if you have better kernel defconfig, than one which is there, please submit too
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19:32.38BabelOhi
19:32.50pH5hi BabelO
19:33.25BabelOpH5: have you some issue with ds1wm ?
19:34.37BabelOand other wuestion what is your postfix and prefix sequence for the phone ?
19:34.53pH5BabelO: not that I know of. Today I had a problem with the battery not charging that I have yet to debug, but the ds1wm readouts work just fine.
19:35.03BabelOs/wuestion/question/
19:35.14pH5prefix: 0x02 0x16
19:35.16pH5postfix: 0x02
19:35.32BabelOok same as BA
19:35.40pH5though when reading, the packets sometimes arive with more than just one 0x02 in the beginning
19:35.51pH5(ie 0x02 0x02 0x16 <data> 0x02
19:35.52pH5)
19:36.50BabelOpH5: yes same issue with BA, there is lot of 0x02 into string answer
19:38.14pH5BabelO: this isn't too surprising, given that it is the same chipset and nearly(?) the same radio firmware :)
19:39.06BabelOyes, i use a modified libgnokii to parse all at command
19:40.08pH5BabelO: do you have working gprs?
19:41.15BabelOno, i make some test few weeks ago with modeule dpram, but no connection
19:42.11pH5:/ I tried to play back the sequence I captured with haret, but I don't get anything out of the data port (ttyS0) yet.
19:42.49BabelOhow it work with magician ? another multiplex string ?
19:43.51pH5BabelO: no multiplexing at all. the at commands to initiate the gprs connection go to ttyS1 as usual, and then the connection data goes to ttyS0.
19:45.17BabelOoh ? always on ttyS0 :) so little different than BA
19:47.52pH5uh. two setbacks in one day :( cpufreq hangs with 2.6.20-rc5 and I don't get the radio bootloader to run from within linux..
19:59.57BabelOpH5: so sound is working on magician, full uda1380 support :)
20:00.41pH5BabelO: I can't record yet, but this is only a matter of enough time to play a bit with the uda1380 registers, I hope.
20:01.16pH5but playback works just fine
20:02.05BabelOpH5: ok, on Ba i ve a strange thing that happens when i use a ATDT command, mic is working alone ... but never modprobed something about sound
20:03.13pH5BabelO: same here. that is because the mic is connected directly to the ti baseband *and* to the uda1380
20:03.30pH5the chips are completely independent of each other
20:03.50pH5I can make phone calls without the sound card driver loaded, too.
20:06.38BabelOpH5: ok, so i ve to ask asylumed if he found something about ds1wm hang
20:07.46pH5BabelO: yes, this seems to be ba specific for a change.
20:09.41goxboxliveHi BabelO: Do yo have something 4 me? :-)
20:11.44BabelOhi goxboxlive, if you want i send you something :)
20:11.45BabelOall compile, but need some change to gnokii
20:12.00goxboxlivegood
20:13.55BabelOi m doing zip file for you::)
20:14.46goxboxlive:-)
20:21.59BabelOgoxboxlive mail sent
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20:23.12goxboxlivethank you
20:24.48goxboxliveBabelO: When compiling a new qtopia image, should i delete my existing build area (shadow building), or is it just to rebuild from it?
20:26.19BabelOi think you have to reconfigure from scratch
20:26.50goxboxliveyes, and then i shuold delete all stuff in the build folder, right?
20:27.05goxboxliveIs there anything i should edit before start building?
20:28.03BabelOno i think nothing to edit, i don't know for build folder
20:29.00goxboxliveok thx a lot
20:30.57BabelO<PROTECTED>
20:35.22goxboxliveBabelO: ok, what about the custom-universal.cpp. SHould that be renamed to custom.cpp or is it OK
20:35.51BabelOno, it is for later use
20:37.52goxboxliveBabelO Should gnokii be buld with anty prefix or something or is it just straight forward ./configure ?
20:38.31BabelOi don't think....... i ve done it by hand after
20:39.48goxboxliveok, then i start
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21:30.02BabelOplus ?
21:30.05BabelO:)
21:31.22c0ffeei saw there are some information available on the vendor specific commands for the brf6150 chip
21:32.02c0ffeei wonder whether somebody (cr2 supplied the infos in the xda wiki) could point me at the command required to route sco traffic over hci instead of directly to the sound hardware
21:34.18c0ffeebtw, there's meanwhile a brf6150 kernel module available for linux - but it doesn't include any ti vendor specific extensions yet
21:38.14BabelOc0ffee: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBluetooth
21:38.28c0ffeeyes, that's the wiki page i was refering to
21:38.54cr2c0ffee: what kernel module ?
21:38.56BabelOok, in linux w use hciattach command to load a vendor sqpecific bts file
21:39.26c0ffeecr2, the nokia 770 uses the brf6150 chip as well, and nokia released a driver for it
21:39.33BabelOcr2: i ve write access
21:40.15cr2c0ffee: the commands in the wiki are from the *.bts scripts and also observed by tracing the BT setup. there are no docs.
21:40.42cr2BabelO: to the xanadux CVS ?
21:41.00c0ffeecr2, is it possible to route SCO traffic through HCI with these commands?
21:41.17BabelOcr2: yes, can you define an emty tree ?
21:41.30cr2c0ffee: where can i look at the module source ?
21:41.40c0ffeesec, i'm searching for a link
21:42.17cr2c0ffee: it's difficult to say. many commands are just patching some RAM/memory locations.
21:42.35cr2the only voice-specific command is 208
21:44.17cr2c0ffee: and TI has released the chipset data only to SDGsystems under NDA.
21:44.25c0ffeehttp://repository.maemo.org/pool/bora/free/source/kernel-source-rx-34_2.6.18.orig.tar.gz
21:44.31cr2thanks.
21:44.42c0ffeeit's drivers/bluetooth/brf6150.{c,h}
21:44.52cr2so we only know what wince does to setup the chip.
21:45.12c0ffeethere's also a kernel patch in this directory that fixes some bluetooth specific stuff
21:45.24cr2i'll have a look.
21:46.09c0ffeethe nokia maintainer said that there is a command
21:46.20c0ffeeand that he's not sure whether he may tell which
21:46.44cr2can you redirect and trace the serial port in linux ?
21:47.08c0ffeeof the bt chip?
21:47.42cr2we use the PXA debugging hardware in wince to dump all memory accesses. written by Kevin, very smart stuff.
21:47.43cr2yes.
21:47.48c0ffeewell
21:47.57c0ffeethere are no binaries that would access the chip
21:48.12cr2it's a pity.
21:48.12c0ffeethe 770 comes with linux preinstalled
21:48.22cr2no binary modules ?
21:48.33c0ffeewell, opera and flash player are binary
21:48.37c0ffeeand such stuff
21:48.40cr2ok.
21:49.03cr2motorola used a different bt stack on their phones.
21:49.10cr2to support the headset
21:49.19cr2binary-only ;)
21:49.36cr2but not brf6150.
21:50.30c0ffeeaccording to what people say it's better to route the sco traffic directly to the sound hardware
21:50.38c0ffeewhich requires a lot of undocumented commands
21:50.56c0ffeebut it would be easier, to route the sco traffic as hci traffic through the cpu
21:51.29c0ffeebecause that would require exactly one undocumented command
21:51.45cr2the sound hardware on our phones (ak4641) is mono.
21:52.15cr2well, are your undocumented commands in the list ?
21:52.23c0ffeeno idea
21:52.29c0ffeebecause i don't have the documents as well
21:52.33c0ffeei hoped you had
21:53.00cr2because you can get an idea what are the parameters, that are used.
21:53.29cr2i didn't want to overload the table, and put only the number of the params. but the  full data is available.
21:54.04c0ffeeis the full data available somewhere?
21:54.05cr2no, it's all under NDA.
21:54.35c0ffeehum :/
21:54.50cr2your only chance is to trace/RE a working system.
21:55.22c0ffeeor bug the nokia guy :)
21:55.25cr2i've done my best.
21:55.30cr2yeah.
21:58.12cr2do you know any other devices that use brf6150 ?
22:00.46cr2err = request_firmware(&info->fw_entry, "brf6150fw.bin", &brf6150_device.dev);
22:00.53cr2do you have this *.bin file ?
22:04.06c0ffeeyes
22:04.08cr2the driver is unbelievable bloatware ;) it's all is done by hciattach on our devices.
22:04.15c0ffeei don't know of other devices, no
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22:05.22cr2i can post/send you the code i've ripped out from hciattach to parse the "firmware"
22:05.25cr2ok.
22:06.18c0ffeei made myself a program that translates a .bts file to a format you can read with hcidump
22:06.24c0ffeeis that approx the same?
22:06.59cr2yes, i dump it in text format.
22:07.38cr2well, hcidump format is even better.
22:07.50c0ffeeyou just have to add a hcidump header before each send and wait-event data blob
22:09.10cr2lookin at it.
22:10.42cr2yes, something like that.
22:11.37c0ffeedo you have those seperate bts scripts that enable and disable audio routing?
22:13.03cr2hmm. i know the 0x208 command that sets mono audio output.
22:14.10cr2<PROTECTED>
22:14.26cr2btw, which ROM/fw version you have ?
22:14.39c0ffeeno idea
22:14.46c0ffeethe driver doesn't output anything
22:15.32cr2hmm. you don't have the bts header in *.bin
22:15.50c0ffeei think the firmware is something different that bts
22:16.11c0ffeeaccording to TI the brf6510 has an arm7tdmi core
22:16.18c0ffeeand i think this firmware is 'real' firmware
22:16.20cr2we know 3 ROM/fw versions, they need different verdor-specific commands and parameters.
22:17.04cr2if it's real, then there should be a devspecific command to upload it.
22:17.45cr2we have a different btaddr in linux and wince, but the "usual" ti btaddr change command is not used.
22:19.31c0ffeehum true
22:19.50c0ffeeanyway, bbl in 20 min or so
22:19.55cr2ok.
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23:10.12cr2BabelO: what directory do you need ?
23:10.17BabelOcr2: we create a clean directory tree like gomunicator or such ? something like opie/src ?
23:11.27cr2qtopia ?
23:11.31BabelOyes, they are the same, only some difference for the moment. after we sent this to lpotter where some tests are done
23:11.35BabelOs/where/when/
23:11.58cr2now.
23:12.02c0ffeeso
23:12.02c0ffeewrote a little program that converts the firmware to a hcidump
23:12.02c0ffeeappears to be a bts like thing
23:12.03c0ffeethe first two entries are some special entries, the rest is a list of vendor specific commands
23:12.07c0ffeecr2, what do the + entries mean in the description field of the command table?
23:12.11cr2hm. no response from sf.net CVS ;)
23:12.26BabelOcr2: yes i see
23:12.27cr2+ ? there is an older brf6100 version. BabelO uses some custom brf6150 fw on it with the (+) commands
23:12.28c0ffee<PROTECTED>
23:12.28c0ffeelike this entry?
23:12.29cr2the(+) commands are not used by wince on "normal" fw.
23:12.29cr2yes.
23:12.29c0ffeeok
23:12.31cr2what are the first two entries in *.bin ?
23:12.34c0ffeethe first is a negotiation request
23:12.35c0ffeeand the second is a alive packet
23:12.48cr2ok.
23:12.50c0ffeelots of undocumented commands in that file :(
23:12.51c0ffeethere is a command 0x0366 with 3 bytes
23:12.51c0ffeeall other commands appear in the table
23:12.52c0ffeeBabelO, where do you have your knowledge about the additional commands from?
23:13.31BabelOc0ffee: i only know that i got this file since i upgrade my rom to wm5, and now i have a patch to support ad2p, maybe it is related to this
23:14.00cr2c0ffee: add them to the list. maybe with ++
23:14.11c0ffeei don't have an xda account
23:14.28c0ffeeit's just this one command missing
23:14.35c0ffeeall others are already present
23:14.39c0ffeejust no descriptions
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23:18.19cr2ok.
23:19.49c0ffeedo you want the fw2hcidump code as well?
23:20.15c0ffeei've send a mail to the nokia guy asking him to just release a "firmware" that fixes the sco stuff, let's see what he'll answer
23:20.50cr2good idea.
23:21.14cr2send it to me. i think i'll put them all somewhere.
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23:24.36cr2thanks.
23:25.17c0ffeeyw
23:29.33cr2BabelO: added opie2
23:29.35cr2http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux
23:31.13BabelOcr2: thanks, i m cleaning my directory tree
23:33.34c0ffeei'll let you know if i figure out something new :)
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