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00:23.22lucificifusKevin2, get back to me when you can :)
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00:31.47gw280is the telephony stuff for Qtopia open source?
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01:31.49phongredgood morning
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01:35.18phongredwho can help me,i cant open USB port BlueAngel when boot LInux
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02:00.17phongredhelp
02:04.07Kevin2lucificifus: No, I haven't seen that.  When I got the phone I filed the welcome disc in the nearest trash can.  See if the file helps figure out the messages found at: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApachePhoneTrace
02:05.07lucificifusKevin2, cool, I'll check it out. If they do make sense, how do we proceed forward?
02:10.33lucificifusKevin2, what do you think that <cr> and <lf> could mean? I'm going to look up the winmodem docs :)
02:11.41lucificifusKevin2, I looked it up, they seem to be notation for linebreaks
02:12.31jjazzlucificifus: cr is carriage return, lf is linefeed
02:12.35lucificifuskk
02:12.55lucificifusKevin2, jjazz: I found Direct Correlation between the INF file and the Haret logs
02:13.02lucificifusfrom the hangup:  write: 'ATH\r'
02:13.07lucificifusfrom the INF
02:13.11lucificifusHKR,Hangup,1,,"ATH<cr>"
02:13.46lucificifusif anyone wants a look, I can upload it to my server
02:15.03jjazzlucificifus: <cr> is \n or ascii 0D.
02:15.26lucificifusand <LF> is \r ?
02:16.15jjazzlucificifus: I don't remember.  It's ascii 0A, though.
02:16.25lucificifusk :)
02:17.47lucificifusyeah, I can find matches in the INF and in the traces :)
02:17.51lucificifuscool :D
02:17.53jjazzcool
02:20.15Kevin2lucificifus: Neat, can you push the file somewhere?
02:20.26lucificifusyup :) on the upload now
02:21.18lucificifushttp://ev01v.com/CDMA%20USB%20Modem.INF
02:28.21lucificifusKevin2, finding anything interesting? How does one go about compiling a linux modem driver?
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02:34.23Kevin2lucificifus: I wont be able to look at it tonight.  The real stuff that is a mystery is the "Turn on phone" section.  It sends a whole bunch of big binary blocks to/from the modem.
02:34.33lucificifusoh, I see
02:34.56lucificifusyeah, that will be difficult
02:35.16lucificifusKevin2, how do I ssh into my device? 192.168.0.206 isn't responding to ping or ssh
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02:43.37Kevin2lucificifus: Are you running one of the familiar images?
02:43.45connorp_yes, the one off of your site :)
02:43.56connorp_well, the image off your site, I'm not sure if its a familiar image
02:44.09connorp_bootstrap-image-v0.8.4-h2200.rootfs.tar.bz2
02:44.44Kevin2Run "ifconfig" on the phone and see if it shows a usb0 interface.
02:45.05Kevin2I modify /mnt/tmp/etc/network/interfaces and add a line that says "auto usb0" to bring up the interface automatically.
02:45.24Kevin2It should try to use 192.168.0.202 by default.
02:46.10Kevin2I bring my host up as 192.168.0.200.  You'll need to run "ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200" on your host.
03:01.33elliswaymm as a note the at strings found in the modem.inf file from lucificifus`s link are the same at commands used for the modem in the universal
03:01.50connorp_ooh interesting :D
03:02.09connorp_thanks Kevin2 trying out the "auto usb0" now
03:02.17elliswayi no because i use the same inf file to access the wireless modem on my universal to use the 3g serices
03:03.09elliswaygonna do a diff between lucificifus`s link the file i ave and the file from the original cd
03:04.38lucificifus:)
03:05.05lucificifusKevin2, whats the default root pw for that image you have?
03:07.15phongredlucificifus  <== you can send to me driver telnet BlueAngel thanks
03:08.42elliswayok minimal difference`s between lucificifus`s file and the 1 i use
03:08.52elliswaydiff -u CDMA\ USB\ Modem.INF USBMDM.INF
03:08.52ellisway--- CDMA USB Modem.INF  2007-01-12 02:22:58.000000000 +0000
03:08.52ellisway+++ USBMDM.INF  2003-01-30 08:12:42.000000000 +0000
03:08.52ellisway@@ -79,7 +79,7 @@
03:08.53ellisway<PROTECTED>
03:08.53ellisway<PROTECTED>
03:08.55ellisway<PROTECTED>
03:08.57ellisway-USB\VID_0BB4&PID_00CF.DeviceDesc = "CDMA USB Modem"
03:08.59ellisway+USB\VID_0BB4&PID_00CF.DeviceDesc = "HTC USB Modem"
03:09.01ellisway<PROTECTED>
03:09.03ellisway<PROTECTED>
03:09.16elliswaybut thefile on the cd looks different to both
03:09.27elliswaycontains lots more comments
03:09.45lucificifusstrainge
03:09.48lucificifus*strange
03:10.53elliswaydamn loads of diff`s
03:11.12elliswaygonna put the 2 files i have online if any1 wants to have a look at them
03:13.49phongredhelp me
03:13.55phongredhelp me please
03:14.16lucificifusphongred, what are you trying to do specifically?
03:14.25phongred<PROTECTED>
03:14.38phongredand startup.txt file
03:15.05phongredwhen i run haret PC cant add new hardware
03:15.22lucificifusphongred, are you running haret from your BlueAngel?
03:15.32phongredyes
03:15.34lucificifusoh, I think I know what you mean
03:15.37Kevin2lucificifus: It asks for a new password the first time you boot.  Otherwise, search the familiar docs for the password.
03:16.12lucificifusphongred, I'm using the standard linux client to ssh in
03:16.25lucificifusphongred, what OS is your host computer running?
03:16.27phongrediusing blueangel wm2005
03:16.33phongredwindows XP
03:16.41lucificifusphongred, try PuTTY
03:16.49lucificifushttp://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
03:16.59elliswayhttp://phukd.good1.com/temp/USBMDM.INF
03:17.05elliswayhttp://phukd.good1.com/temp/CD-USBMDM.INF
03:17.23lucificifusKevin2, I was never promted for a password :( and "rootme" doesn't seem to work. Weird. can I chroot into the SD card and do "passwd?"
03:17.34phongredthanks
03:17.38lucificifussure phongred :)
03:18.10lucificifusoh, Kevin2, do you think adding an entry into authorized_keys would work?
03:18.31elliswaylucificifus the cdma inf u linked is that from the cd for your handset ?
03:18.46lucificifusellisway, yes, it is. For Verizon Wireless
03:18.53elliswayk
03:19.08phongredmy problem: when click haret-0.3.8.exe on PPC,boot linux but PC cant add new hardware, i think startup.txt not support USB port
03:19.23elliswaythe 1 i pasted the diff against is 1 that i downloaded from xda-developers site
03:19.50elliswaybut seems to be for the same vendor id and device id
03:19.56lucificifusphongred, try this howto: http://docwiki.gumstix.org/Windows_XP_usbnet & http://www.davehylands.com/linux/gumstix/usbnet/
03:20.14lucificifusall you need to do is set up the INF. good luck, I haven't done it before :D
03:20.48phongredthanks
03:21.10lucificifusno problem, sir :)
03:21.43phongredputty   <== what file?
03:22.11phongred:D
03:22.55lucificifus:D http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty-0.58-installer.exe
03:23.46phongredbut what it?
03:23.57phongredsorry my english heheeeee
03:24.18elliswaydiff between lucificifus`s version and mine  http://phukd.good1.com/temp/USBMDM.INF.DIFF
03:25.07lucificifusphongred, execute Start > PuTTY > PuTTY :)
03:26.03lucificifusellisway, doesn't the Universal have working GSM?
03:26.05lucificifusin Linux, that is
03:26.29elliswaygsm yes
03:26.53elliswaybut the inf file is about the modem
03:27.03lucificifustrue
03:27.12elliswayhow to set it for doing data rather than just the gsm
03:27.35elliswayi might be able to help a bit with the data side of things as i have data in my contract
03:27.50lucificifusyea, I actually have a data-only contract atm :D
03:28.01ellisway:)
03:28.02lucificifusphongred, where are you from? :)
03:28.10phongredvietnam
03:28.17phongredi' from vietnam
03:28.18phongredlol
03:28.29lucificifuscool :) I'm from the US
03:28.33elliswayi`m from irc
03:28.35phongredoh hehe
03:28.38lucificifushehe :P
03:28.39ellisway:)
03:28.54elliswayuk :)
03:29.10phongredbut my companyof Sparton corporation
03:29.34phongredflorida Spaton
03:29.50lucificifushehe cool :)
03:29.52phongredSparton
03:29.57phongredyou know
03:29.59phongred?
03:30.01phongredlol
03:30.37Kevin2lucificifus: authorized keys should work.  I don't think "passwd" will work -- different archs.  You should be able to edit /etc/shadow though.
03:30.49lucificifuskk :) trying auth keys now
03:31.22lucificifusgah, didnt do it right
03:32.37lucificifusKevin2, where is dropbear's config file?
03:34.21phongredlucificifus  => i download INF file anh change String  USB\VID_045E&PID_0301 (my ID)
03:34.52phongredbut PC cant ADD hardware i think Startup file of Linux problem
03:35.03phongredwhat do you think?
03:35.47lucificifusphongred, I'm not sure about that. Try booting up on an Ubuntu (or Knoppix) live CD and following the instructions for linux?
03:36.32phongredyou want me boot PC by Linux?
03:36.44lucificifusright, using a LiveCD. that might work better than using windows :)
03:37.23phongredi think so. i have LiveCD
03:37.25phongredlol
03:38.10lucificifusKevin2, my install doesn't have an etc/shadow! thats prolly why it wasn't working
03:38.11phongrednow you halp me again, begin to end.?
03:38.15lucificifusphongred, sure :)
03:38.19phongredlol
03:38.19phongredthanks
03:38.23lucificifusno problem :D
03:39.11phongred1.download file Linux. copy to PPC, Run Haret.exe
03:39.42phongredi dont know i can format Storage card by PC?
03:39.58phongredyou know?
03:40.18lucificifusin linux, just use fdisk :)
03:40.40phongredoh can format by PC,realy?
03:40.44phongredlol
03:41.01lucificifusyeah :) that's how I did it :D
03:42.01phongredafter format create partiton 1Fat + 1 EXT2
03:42.25phongredcopy all file to storage card
03:42.36lucificifusyes
03:43.11phongred,oh step telnet or connect PC to PPC<== no need?
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03:44.13phongredonly format, create partion, copy all file to storage card, run haret
03:44.19lucificifusthats right
03:44.27phongredoh  lol
03:44.49phongredbecause i dont use Linux, I cant setup Linux ehehe
03:44.56phongredyou good friend
03:44.57phongredthanks
03:45.21phongred:D :D :D :D
03:45.36lucificifusno problem :D so have you booted the livecd?
03:45.57phongred<-_->
03:46.46phongred([-_-])
03:48.07phongredlucificifus <== no nedd setup driver and connect Pc To PPC  <== you Sure heheehehe
03:48.48lucificifuslinux should already have a driver, so just plug in the usb :)
03:50.06phongredno no when i boot linux?
03:50.44phongredtonight i will check again lol
03:51.01lucificifushehe allright, I have to go for now, I'll be back later. good luck!
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05:48.09phongredalo'
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06:50.16gxl|workgood morning
07:01.54kimuSan^morning
07:02.38Hymiedamn, almost split my sides watching the latest kenny vs spenny
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07:03.52DeadlyNinjai ran the xda-developer's unlock program but my phone appears to still be locked
07:04.19DeadlyNinjacan a sim card be locked?
07:05.10Hymieyou can, I believe, have a code for the sim card, but that makes little sense
07:05.33Hymiethe whole point of locking is to prevent you from signing up to a contract, and then switching cell phone companies
07:05.38Hymiethe sim card won't prevent that
07:05.39Hymieand
07:05.49Hymiehow could you still hgave the old sim card, if you're trying a new? ;)
07:07.38DeadlyNinjai have 2 sims
07:07.43DeadlyNinjathe old one has no warning
07:08.00DeadlyNinjathe new one (a t-mobie prepaid) comes up with an unlock screen
07:08.08DeadlyNinjathis is after ive ran the unlocker
07:08.37Hymiemy point above was, why would companies ever lock their sim?
07:08.46Hymieif you're leaving them, you don't have their sim
07:09.01Hymieif you're putting their sim in another phone, you're going to use their service and pay, and that's a good thing
07:09.02Hymieso no
07:09.12HymieI doubt there is a code locking the sim
07:09.19DeadlyNinjahm
07:09.21Hymieand, is it asking for a code, or what?/
07:09.24Hymiewhat provider?
07:09.30Hymiewhat does the screen say, precisely?
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07:11.25DeadlyNinjaill upload a picture
07:11.26DeadlyNinjaits a cingular phone, t-mobile card
07:11.26DeadlyNinjasx66 blueangel
07:11.59DeadlyNinja"Network is locked, Please input unlock code"
07:12.26Hymiehmm
07:12.56HymieI don't know how a locked WM5 phone reacts, I've only unlocked palm devices.. and for me, the card just wouldn't work...
07:13.15Hymieusually there isn't an unlock code, because then someone could put that on the internet, and everyone would be able to use it
07:13.16Hymiesec
07:13.17DeadlyNinjaits WM2003
07:13.27DeadlyNinjai havnt touched it
07:13.31DeadlyNinjaits a stock phone as far as i know
07:13.44DeadlyNinjaive had it for 26 hours
07:13.49DeadlyNinjaerr 36
07:14.49Hymiehum, well.. I don't know what to suggest, except wait until tomorrow.. most people are (all people? ;) asleep now
07:15.02Hymiebut again
07:15.08HymieI can't see why the sim card would be locked
07:15.11Hymieit's likely the phone
07:15.35DeadlyNinjais this the correct file to use to unlock? http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/xdadev_all_unlock-v1.6.exe
07:15.57Hymiehttp://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:D6jDbfT5AUIJ:www.filesaveas.com/tmobile.html+t-mobile+sim+card+code&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1
07:16.00HymieI don't know :(
07:16.04HymieI have a HTC Hermes
07:16.49HymieWhat is my SIM card PIN?  The number is printed on the delivery slip that comes with your SIM card. If in doubt, try T-Mobile's default PIN code for SIM cards, which is 1210. Note that you get three tries to enter the PIN, and your phone will be locked if you fail after these tries. You'll then need to contact T-Mobile to get a PUK code (see below).
07:18.48DeadlyNinjaoh man i guess i have one try left then
07:19.08DeadlyNinjahttp://www.deadlyninja.com/img/locked2.jpg
07:19.12Hymieif it is indeed the pin.. do you have that slip of paper?  if not, call t-mobile I guess
07:19.26Hymieah, simlock
07:19.27Hymieanyhow
07:19.35Hymiet-mobile wants you to use their phone
07:19.37Hymieso....
07:19.42Hymiethey'll be happy to co-operate
07:20.03Hymieer
07:20.08Hymietheir network, I mean ;)
07:21.43DeadlyNinjawell i dunno where the pin is
07:21.54DeadlyNinjabut thanks, thats gotta be what it is
07:22.02Hymiesilly t-mobile
07:22.04DeadlyNinjaalthough i dont understand that myself
07:22.15Hymiethey probably think it helps if someone steals your sim card
07:22.21Hymiebut, I think they'll take the whole phone ;)
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07:31.20DeadlyNinjathis is how i would do it: break into your car, grab your phone, open it up, sneak the sim card out, then close the phone, glue your windshield closed and run off
07:31.35Hymieheh
07:39.59phongredalo
07:40.13phongredalo-ola lol
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11:38.21rob_wcan someone hint me how to identify correct hsync vsync pxlclk for a new tft ?
11:49.16kimuSan^probe it?
11:49.26kimuSan^or look at the sticker on the back
11:50.30rob_w?
11:50.37rob_wno sticker
11:51.28kimuSan^X -configure
11:51.33kimuSan^IIRC
11:51.44kimuSan^probes for vendor settings
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13:37.27pandabearhello
13:37.48pandabearI've got a problem with the latest magician linux image
13:38.21pandabearAngstrom-gpe-image-test-20070111-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 doesn't unpack cleanly, says EOF in the middle of the unpacking ...
13:38.33pandabearso who can i write to about this ?
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14:57.16josh11hi is anyone here?
15:00.56pandabearme
15:01.22josh11hi there:)
15:01.33josh11i was wondering if u can help
15:01.33pandabearbut i got no clue about the project =P
15:01.40pandabeari doubt it =(
15:01.47josh11what about the pda devices?
15:01.50pandabeari am also here for a helpng hand
15:02.09josh11i basically deleted my bootloader of my device and now i cant flash it
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15:03.30pandabearhow did you delete your bootloader ?
15:03.32pandabeardi
15:03.50pandabeardid you write something into the flashMEMORY of your device ?
15:03.52pandabearuppale
15:04.02pandabearmemory supposed to be small =)
15:04.11josh11iwas trying to upgrade the the pda with a sdcard carrying the rom
15:04.23josh11but it failed and now my pda is dead:(
15:04.32pandabearthat should be perfect
15:04.38pandabearyou need to hardreset it
15:04.42josh11its a px10a model wallavy
15:04.47josh11wallaby
15:04.54josh11mate when i reset nothing happen
15:05.09pandabearhrm, oh, now i get it
15:05.10josh11the bootloader is gone
15:05.18pandabearthought you were just booting the image on the sdcard
15:05.33josh11i was trying to upload it to the device yes
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15:06.07pandabearwell, I am sorry, but as far as I know there is no way to get it running again when the bootloader has been crushed
15:06.21josh11when i plug in the device ,,all i get in device manager is htx usb sync
15:06.31josh11htc usb sync when i plug it on comp
15:06.35josh11so there must be a way
15:06.49pandabearhrmm, when the usb port is running it must have loaded something
15:07.21pandabearwell I am sorry, I don't got any clue myself =(
15:07.39josh11well i hope someone can help on this matter because it was running perfect until i done flashing
15:07.50josh11thanks panda for your time
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15:38.53pandabearheya toen, you know who maintains the magician linux port ?
15:39.02pandabeargah, roen ..
15:40.27pandabearRoEn: you know who maintains the magician linux port ?
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16:02.57RoEnpandabear: sry, noo
16:03.27BabelOpandabear : ask pH5 for magician
16:05.01josh11babel who can i speak to about the wallaby device?
16:05.39pandabeargreat thanks
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16:08.47BabelOjosh11 : : sorry i don't know for this one
16:10.37josh11ok ill stickaround :)
16:11.23cr2BabelO: SXE is something like java ? then we can certainly live without it :)
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16:12.15cr2josh11: you have wallaby ?
16:12.37josh11yep
16:12.41josh11px10a model
16:12.45cr2is it working ?
16:12.50cr2i mean wince.
16:12.56josh11yes but i deleted the bootloader
16:13.04cr2hmm.
16:13.05josh11so its only a boot screen
16:13.13josh11and i cant acces the bootloader to fix it
16:13.22cr2if you have a bootscreen, then the bootloader is there.
16:13.48josh11no i meant the rom bootscreen
16:13.50cr2if the bootloader is really deleted, then you can't really do anything without jtag.
16:13.52josh11it says win2003
16:14.02josh11oh no pls dont tell me jtag:)
16:14.04josh11:(
16:14.05josh11pls
16:14.09josh11there must be a way
16:14.20cr2what do you have on the screen ?
16:15.00josh11i flahsed it with a rom from xda developers ,,,a win2003 rom when i done it the bootloader dissapeared and now i get a message sayin
16:15.26josh11this is a microsoft internal product for microsoft employeess
16:15.34josh11pls contact microsoft crap
16:15.45josh11and when ido hard reset no bootloader
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16:16.30cr2but you have a lot of running software, if you can see such message.
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16:16.50cr2the deleted bootloader means the device is not doing anything.
16:16.54BabelOcr2 : yes, sure.  i m looking at this for this evening http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/themed-views.html and trying this http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/syscust-theming.html and we can have a full phone build in :) i m updating my code
16:17.21josh11ok when i plug it in the usb cradle in device manager i see htc usb sync
16:17.24cr2BabelO: did you get any response from martin-s ?
16:17.37cr2josh11: lsusb ?
16:17.49josh11yes usb
16:18.17cr2i mean, can you connect to it over USB-serial ?
16:18.40josh11yes it comes up in device manager only as a htc usb sync
16:18.41BabelOcr2 : no, maybe i have to send another mail from gmail, i ve strange effect using Outlook at work
16:18.50josh11but i cant acces it via active sync
16:19.11cr2josh11: mtty.exe ?
16:19.58josh11would that be possible with a usb lead or do i need a serial lead?
16:19.59cr2i think usb is ok.
16:20.15josh11ok but dont i need to enter bootloader usb mode ?? for mtty ?
16:20.48josh11cr2 thanks so much for your time your perfect mate u no what your doing :)
16:21.12josh11as i cant get in bootloader will mtty work u think ?
16:22.26cr2mtty is for the bootloader mode anyway, because activesync is the full IP access.
16:24.05josh11ok it aint accsesing it
16:25.07josh11i selected usb in mtty
16:25.27cr2well, try to read the wiki.xda-developers.com
16:26.00josh11lol ive read everysingle page ,,,and they also said mtty ,,and another tool called xdairit
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16:26.31cr2it's nothing more than a serial terminal.
16:26.44cr2over usb-serial or real rs-232 line.
16:27.32josh11when i done a google search on htc usb sync i came up with a treo pda windows mobile and thats a htc service mode when it enters htc usb sync i read
16:27.43cr2is it possible to do an update from the SD card ?
16:28.01cr2it's only the naming. the usb function is not different.
16:28.23cr2can you lookup the numbers in the registry ?
16:28.23josh11i wish i could cr2 but when i put in the card on device with rom image cooked nothing doesnt even detect the card agaun no bootloader so thats why
16:28.46cr2ok.
16:29.09josh11i wish i left it alone
16:29.14josh11it was running so nice
16:29.19cr2:)
16:29.33josh11i also have a blueangel that never gives me probs
16:29.40josh11i flashed it so many times
16:30.06cr2blueangel is more advanced, and more simple in respect to the bootloader.
16:30.23josh11cr2 is there any special htc software for this bud?
16:30.30josh11for my problem
16:30.40cr2i have a ba, but not a wallaby.
16:30.52cr2don't think so.
16:31.07cr2maybe at HTC itself.
16:31.45josh11because a pda repair shop i spoke to them and there saying they can fix this for a mere 35 pounds ,,,and i,m very sure they are gonna do jtag for that price
16:31.52josh11so there is a trick for this:)
16:32.12josh11they are not gonna do*
16:33.33josh11cr2 thanks so much for your time:)
16:34.27rmoravcikcr2: hi
16:36.19cr2josh11: that's the easiest thing for them to do.
16:36.47cr2rmoravcik: hi. can you boot rx3715 with the latest haret ?
16:36.52rmoravcikcr2: if you will have a little bit free time, can you commit my rx3715 update http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/kernel-discuss/current/2638.html
16:37.29cr2sure.
16:38.18rmoravcikcr2: i don't try latest haret with rx3715, but i can try it, but right now building angstrom
16:38.58josh11is the jtag procedure the best method for my problem ??
16:39.00cr2ok.
16:39.20cr2josh11: the most logical for a repair shop.
16:39.45josh11i,m scared they might destroy the cpu while removing it
16:41.08josh11cr2 do u no what tool they use to remove the cpu ?
16:41.19cr2remove the cpu ??
16:41.50cr2they only need to attach the wires to the jtag pads.
16:42.04josh11yes but aent they under the cpu ?
16:42.10cr2are the pad locations known for wallaby ?
16:42.11josh11u need to remove cpu to get to it?
16:42.38cr2i 've seen then documented only for himalaya and one ipaq.
16:43.13cr2seems very strange if they are under the cpu ;-)
16:43.13josh11ok if i dont have to remove cpu i can jtag myself i just gotta find out what lead to get
16:43.22cr2is it in wiki ?
16:43.53josh11http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WallabyJTAG
16:43.55cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WallabyJTAG
16:43.57cr2yes.
16:44.45cr2but the pads are not under the cpu!
16:45.02cr2they removed the cpu just for fun i guess :)
16:45.39josh11lol they cooked the pcb:)
16:45.44josh11what a waste:)
16:47.18cr2and to track the wiring.
16:47.49josh11ok then i need the cable for pc and software:S
16:48.14cr2the process is documented quite nicely.
16:49.33josh11cr2 :) if u was in my trainers would u 1 take it shop pay 35 pounds let them do it ,,or 2 take on the challenge and do ti yourself:D
16:52.11cr2i'll try to do it myself. but i'm a hardcore hacker :)
16:52.29josh11http://toolbox.xilinx.com/docsan/3_1i/data/common/hug/figures/fig013.htm
16:52.33josh11found diagram:D
16:53.43cr2i think repairing such an old device for 35 pounds would be an offence to me. i'll better throw it away if i'll break it.
16:53.59josh11http://www.altera.com/support/software/drivers/dri-quartus.html << software for jtag
16:54.15josh11it has a better sound chip than a blueangel :)
16:54.26cr2really ?
16:54.43josh11yep it more powerful tha newer pda;s
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16:55.22josh11the only pda with same sound quality was spv m1000
16:56.53josh11cr2 can i add u on my msn ??:)
16:57.27cr2what is msn ?
16:57.39josh11msn messenger
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17:00.33psokolovskyrmoravcik, can you please also submit defconfig for OE to use?
17:01.25rmoravcikpsokolovsky: for 2.6.19-hh8?
17:01.51josh11crs thanks again for all your help
17:01.56rob_wpsokolovsky, today i was trying to get a new tft to a devel pxa270 .. but  couldnt figure out settings so the picture blurry and wrong coloured
17:02.07psokolovskyrmoravcik, for whatever version you consider stable enough to build anstrom with ;-) I guess yes, the latest ;-)
17:02.28psokolovskyrob_w, how can I help? ;-)
17:02.42rob_wdunnknow ..
17:03.30rob_wmaybe some tell me : are the timinngs also responsible for the correct colours ?
17:03.46rob_wi was trying to change the colour via fbset -rgba  but it never chnaged
17:03.54psokolovskyrob_w, do you still work/have access to/interest in htchimalaya?
17:04.07rob_wi never had  a hima
17:04.17rmoravcikpsokolovsky: i have some updates to asic3 yet, that add support s3c24xx clock support, because s3c24xx clk struct has little bit diffrent members
17:04.23psokolovskyrob_w, sorry, I'm not hardware guy, dunno what could be involved...
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17:05.35psokolovskyrob_w, umm, I believe I saw you (c) in the code, and you submitted machie config for it to OE?
17:06.04rob_wwell , hima shares the tsc2200 chip with the blueangel
17:06.19psokolovskyrmoravcik, hmm. that all clk stuff is pretty weird. please post, of course
17:06.23rob_walso the bluenagel stuff was heavily derived by the existing himalaya code
17:06.46psokolovskyrob_w, yes, exactly, and it would be nice to update hima code to the latest soc driver, like BA
17:06.53cr2josh11: i don't use im. and microsoft too.
17:07.03rob_wcr2, you do !
17:07.14cr2psokolovsky: lkcl is the only one with himalaya.
17:07.27rob_wpsokolovsky, well the devices live or die with their users ,
17:07.31josh11ok icq?
17:07.36psokolovskycr2, ok ;-)
17:07.44cr2rob_w: how do you define the palette ?
17:07.46rob_win the beginning there much more hima people here
17:08.11rob_wcr2, i dont expicitly afaik
17:08.22cr2psokolovsky: once the uda1380 will finally work on ba, we can consider himalaya.
17:08.37psokolovskyrob_w, that's not sustainable approach. we should head towards general maintenance of all ports, and this of course requires common codebase and following common coding, etc standards
17:08.49psokolovskycr2, ok, nice
17:09.01rob_w;-)
17:09.26josh11you guyz are genuises :)
17:09.29rob_wpsokolovsky, i agree and for this i feel the many htc devices by know definitly need a merge
17:09.35cr2psokolovsky: how many active ports do we have now ?
17:09.48psokolovskycr2, it depends what you call active
17:10.04psokolovskyrob_w, I'd say, not merge, but common code refactoring ;-)
17:10.16rob_wu can hear complains of the many htc stuff at hh,org kernel list already
17:10.25cr2psokolovsky: where something happens now.
17:10.39psokolovskysure!
17:10.45cr2rob_w: more common drivers, not a merge.
17:10.50psokolovskyrob_w, what you mean, what complaints?
17:11.00cr2the asic3_keys and asic3_leds was a great example.
17:11.11psokolovskyyep
17:11.13rob_wsome side comments about the volume of htc things
17:11.53rob_wregarding the directory structuring below arm/mach-pxa/*
17:12.10cr2rob_w: but they work, unlike some completely abandoned ports.
17:12.17rob_wcr2, YES
17:12.33psokolovskyrob_w, well, there were no complaints. and your guys' work, htc ports, are great!
17:13.10cr2psokolovsky: ipaqs are htc devices too :)
17:13.13rob_wpsokolovsky, yeah i know .. but i actually agree as this is the same what we where talking before .. refactoring !
17:13.27psokolovskynice! ;-)
17:13.49rob_wit is all about finding the correct groups to have a best structure
17:15.07rob_whey why dont we get  "one name to rule them all " ...
17:15.21rob_wor so ??
17:16.07cr2rob_w: there is no excuse for having a wildly separate ba config in oe :)
17:16.15rob_w:-(
17:16.42rob_wwild in which way ?
17:17.37cr2how many different htc phones do we support in CVS ?
17:17.53cr2wild means it#s own touchscreen setup, own led setup, etc.
17:18.01rob_wwell many are mentioned , but do they "work" .,. no of course not , they are "under development"
17:18.37cr28 pxa + 2 samsung.
17:18.49rob_wcr2, ithink old is the better word , before there know common led etc
17:19.11cr2they need some standard interface.
17:19.44cr2i've cloned the tsc2046 ts driver for some of the phones, and already see the pain.
17:19.46rob_woe introduced some build stuff lately for such
17:20.14cr2at least the kernel interface can be the same.
17:20.17rob_wcr2, its like stretching out all legs and hands but still needs 5 more :)
17:20.33cr2do we have asic3 led support on ba now ?
17:21.27rmoravcikcr2: cvs haret is booting on rx3715
17:21.28rob_wcr2, i dont know if ba leds are now merged already , but there where there in its own ba way
17:22.05psokolovskyrmoravcik, cool, can you do "earlyharetlog.txt" thing and post complete boot log somewhere?
17:22.15rob_wone of the last things i dd was testing to auto toggle the keyboard , cruel hacks
17:22.54rmoravcikpsokolovsky: yes, and i have mach-rx3715 support too
17:23.13psokolovskyrmoravcik, then please post that patch instead ;-)
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17:23.32rmoravcikpsokolovsky: on k-d?
17:23.46psokolovskyrmoravcik, well, better to haret@hh.org
17:23.59rmoravcikpsokolovsky: ok
17:41.50goxboxlivepsokolovsky: With the new update of qte-common.inc in OE. Are you saying that our keyboard will work without any modification to it?
17:42.09goxboxliveOr is it just the key-buttons and TS you have aded?
17:42.40goxboxliveBecause there are 4 patches in the file that break the keyboard from woring in Opie.
17:43.23goxboxlivefile://c700-hardware.patch;patch=1 \ file://simpad.patch;patch=1 \  file://key.patch;patch=1 \ and file://keyboardless-buttonmap.patch;patch=1 \
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17:45.41psokolovskygoxboxlive, what you mean "breaking"? and sure, I could test only on kbd-less device.
17:46.25goxboxlivebreaking: Not working. It works in the shell, but not in Opie
17:46.30goxboxliveABout your OE update
17:46.50goxboxlivehh7 isent a good version for angstrom. You should cgange it to hh8 as i said yesterday
17:47.40goxboxlivehh7 miss the navigation pad and all the leds. AFAIR it also miss the mic on the headphone
17:48.09psokolovskygoxboxlive, No, I shouldn't. You should support patch for that, as requested by Angstrom maintainers.
17:50.01goxboxlivewhats the pint, it will be added after .21-hh7 is running
17:50.10goxboxlives/pint/point/
17:52.33psokolovskygoxboxlive, well, for some reason you involved Angstrom maintainers into this trivial update, so now comply with their requirements ;-). I indeed could just silently update it to -hh8, voila. But now Koen wants complete change management, so give it to him ;-)
17:56.00HymieHello, my name is Hymie
17:56.28Hymies/(Hello), my name is (Hymie)/$2 is running into the word $1/
17:56.41Hymiehmm, so, not real perl regexp ;)
17:58.27goxboxlive:-) Well you know how easy it is. The last patch i added to bugtracker was 1 or 2 months old. One of the Angstrom guys refused to add it since the machine file included rtc modules. I asked hrw to take a look at it, he said it where no problem witth the machine file and the i was added by you a couple of days later. Suddenly one of the ANgstrom guys didnt have any comment to it, it was suudenly OK. Do you see my point. Man i wish the
17:58.27goxboxlivere where an other easy why to build images, i would have left OE at once.
18:21.39psokolovskygoxboxlive, what you don't like is also one of its ground points. somebody cannot do random tweaks to the distro config, it must be done thru mainatainers' knowledge of it. and maintainers need to know why exactly the change is needed. ("it works better" doesn't work). Otherwise, it will be havoc.
18:22.29psokolovskyand there're multiple ways to build images, there's no other good candidate for general distro for all devices.
18:24.05psokolovskybecause if everyone will keep building images for himself, it will continue to be like rob_w said: "port lives as long as there's folks with device around". that doesn't scale. it must live as long as there's a distro which supports it, and kernel tree which maintains it.
18:24.33psokolovskyboth require some rules and adhering to them, though ;-I
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18:36.18pandabeararrr pH5, the on I've been waiting for
18:36.43pandabearpH5: Do you have a second ? I failed unpacking the Angstrom image for the magician
18:38.02goxboxlivepsokolovsky: I totaly agree, but it's just sad that you have to argue with you_know_who everytime you want a change.
18:38.12pH5pandabear: How?
18:38.43pandabearEOF is reached to soon when unpacking
18:39.06psokolovskygoxboxlive, yep, so I prefer to pile up small changes and process them in bunch, but from time to time ;-)
18:39.10pandabearso it says the file is corrupted, and it does that after multiple downloads
18:39.23pandabearpH5:
18:39.32pandabearpH5: so it says the file is corrupted, and it does that after multiple downloads
18:41.56pandabearpH5: bzcat: Compressed file ends unexpectedly;
18:41.56pandabear<PROTECTED>
18:41.56pandabearbzcat: Success
18:41.56pandabear<PROTECTED>
18:41.56pandabearIt is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted.
18:41.57pandabearYou can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files.
18:41.59pandabearYou can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover
18:42.01pandabeardata from undamaged sections of corrupted files.
18:42.03pandabeartar: Unerwartetes Dateiende im Archiv.
18:42.05pandabeartar: Unerwartetes Dateiende im Archiv.
18:42.07pandabeartar: Nicht behebbarer Fehler: Programmabbruch.
18:42.11pandabearSorry for the long errormsg
18:43.11pH5pandabear: what is the size and md5sum of your file?
18:44.13pandabearpH5: 8f2d679ce982fe9b3529e78e0b033653
18:45.00pH5should be ad0f3cdcc6038b09d04323ec9e703116 and 19308235 bytes.
18:45.18pH5I wonder if there is a problem with the webserver.
18:45.59pH5But the md5sum of the upload seems to be correct.
18:48.28pandabearwierd, but multiple downloads all resulted in the same corrupted file (wget, kget an firefox)
18:48.36pandabearhrm, does kget use wget as a backend ?
18:50.10pH5pandabear: I don't know. I'm downloading with wget now, let's see if I get the same file that I sent..
18:53.39pandabearpH5: wierd, yesterday he displayed the filesize as 15MB when I opened up the downloadpage, maybe it was a serverissue
18:54.14pH5pandabear: aah, you tried yesterday?
18:54.19pandabearyes
18:54.22pH5indeed, I uploaded the corrected version this morning
18:54.25pH5sorry about that ;)
18:54.41pandabearahh alright, well I could have seen that the date changed too ...
18:54.57pH5so try again, now it should work.
18:56.12pandabearthe md5sum is right now, looks like it'll be fine
18:56.24pH5ok
18:58.15pandabearbtw, is there a reason to use the old haret version ?
19:05.07kimuSan^cr2: did you have a new kernel somewhere. your talked about EFB config etc.
19:10.48pandabearpH5: yey, it's working, seems like alot happend since I checked last time
19:11.51pandabearpH5: much faster now either, great work !
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19:27.32pH5pandabear: no reason to use the old haret version, it's just a version that is known to work
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19:57.09BabelOgoxboxlive ?
19:57.24BabelOoups not here
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20:02.37pandabearpH5: Is this a USB hub in there so I can attach a hdd ?
20:02.54pandabearor just these 3 client functions ?
20:05.59pH5pandabear: the one usb host port is connected internally to the bluetooth chip.
20:06.57pandabearand the external one ?
20:07.38pandabearpH5: and the external one ? it just has client functions ?
20:07.46pH5client only as far as I know
20:20.19pandabearpH5: *sigh* too bad, would have been cool to plugin a dvb-t card or external hdd
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21:51.37pandabearpH5: Have you changed the mounting of the sdcard ? it looks like it's moving as much as possible into the ram
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22:23.40cr2pH5: what are the differences between your angstrom image and that of goxboxlive ?
22:31.35kimuSan^nite all
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22:47.04cr2goxboxlive: what opie keyboard patches do you want to "revert" ?
22:47.25goxboxliveDo you mean in qte-common.inc
22:47.59cr2i think something in these patches it not clean, and they affect not only this particular device, but all others.
22:48.01cr2yes.
22:48.16cr2your way to do it is obviously unacceptable.
22:48.54cr2doing bitbake opie-image now.
22:50.07goxboxliveYes i know it is unacceptable, but i have asked for help, and no one has reacted.
22:50.36cr2which patches are that ?
22:51.09cr2i'll try to look at it and locate the non-device-specific code.
22:51.21goxboxliveI have sendt u my file
22:52.15cr2yes, found it.
22:53.31cr2what devices does angstrom actually support ?
22:53.33goxboxliveI am looking at debian now. Have installed a debootstrap image. Will try to install our modules and boot it
22:53.43cr2only hx4700 and h2200 ?
22:53.43goxboxliveI dont know.
22:54.06goxboxliveNo, there are a lot more. Check linuxtogo.org/angstrom
22:54.35cr2Page not found
22:56.07cr2ok, these are 4 files. c700 (some zaurus afaik) , simpad, simpad something, and key.patch
22:56.43cr2wow. finally there is some kernel in oe that actually compiles.
22:57.51cr22.3.10 or 2.3.12 ?
22:58.08goxboxliveYes of course the kernel compile. The 18-hh1 was added without asking any of us. When they change anything for the universal i think they should ask us before they do it.
22:58.13goxboxlive2.3.10
22:58.46cr2that's why i have asked about the list of supported devices.
23:00.17goxboxlivehttp://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
23:01.49cr2ok, so it's h2200 and some recent zaurus models.
23:03.00cr2and hx4700
23:08.57pH5cr2: I don't know what goxboxlive's angstrom image includes. I added some things I need to the default image (devmem2, gomunicator) and of course it has the magician modules installed.
23:10.32cr2pH5: modules are irrelevant. imho they are not really the part of the image.
23:11.12cr2i may write a list of universal-specific modifications made by goxboxlive.
23:11.28cr2i see the tslib in this list, but don't really understand why.
23:12.22pH5tslib? why does it need
23:12.25pH5modifications?
23:12.42goxboxliveIt something that where added the last days. It's for getting rid of export tslib in opie
23:13.18pH5Ah ok. I'm not familiar with opie.
23:13.57cr2it comes from blueangel i guess. that also wants to modify tslib config for some reason.
23:14.10cr2pH5: tslib has nothing to do with opie.
23:14.51cr2there are 2 problems with opie: keyboard and suspend. i'll try to solve the 1 problem now.
23:19.21cr2goxboxlive: are you sure that you need to exclude all 4 patches ?
23:20.50pH5It appears that tslib doesn't need any special configuration anymore for most devices. and as universal/magician/hx4700 are pretty much identical from a touchscreen point of view, whatever reasons there are to modify tslib, I don't think they are device specific.
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23:22.16cr2pH5: yes, that's why i'm surprrised.
23:22.55cr2NOTE: base-files contains dangling symlink to /media/card
23:22.55cr2NOTE: base-files contains dangling symlink to /media/cf
23:22.55cr2NOTE: base-files contains dangling symlink to /media/net
23:22.55cr2NOTE: base-files contains dangling symlink to /media/ram
23:23.07cr2that's some zaurus' weirdness.
23:30.29goxboxlivecr2: FOr a half year ago, i tested out averey single combination. You are free to try it out again :-) (it takes ages). I found out that all the four of them breaks the keyboard
23:33.58cr2ok.
23:34.20cr2hm. perl is compiled ?
23:34.40cr2i think we should kill the tslib patch.
23:35.09cr2it is not doing anything useful and only creates confusion.
23:35.30cr2btw, the keymaps package. what keymaps do you have now ?
23:37.08cr2simpad-defaultkbd.patch
23:37.24cr2i doublt it can create any problems on universal.
23:37.24goxboxliveI dont have any in qte. But in kernel-keymap
23:37.35cr2can you enable it ?
23:37.43goxboxlivein qte?
23:37.51cr2yes.
23:37.58goxboxliveno
23:38.11cr2-#if defined( QT_QWS_CASSIOPEIA )
23:38.11cr2+#if defined( QT_QWS_CASSIOPEIA ) || defined( QT_QWS_SIMPAD )
23:38.23goxboxlivei have tried before, and it result in starting a new build.
23:38.29cr2it has nothing to do with universal, and can't make any harm.
23:38.41cr2of course it will ;)
23:39.35cr2this patch just can't hurt universal.
23:39.44goxboxliveThe 4 first ones i have commented breaks the keyboard. The rest i dont know. I tested some combinations but since i had it working i didnt care if they where not aplied
23:40.51cr2ok, but we need to care ,if we want to produce a patch.
23:42.04goxboxlivewhy, it hasent anything to say if we create a patch only for universal.
23:43.59cr2there is no sense to exclude or correct this patch in a general case.
23:44.15cr2simpad.patch is more involved.
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23:44.45cr2i can't say just looking at the patch itself, if it can hurt a generic device.
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23:45.39nixuhi there
23:46.21nixuI have a universal and insalled both OPIE & GPE....
23:46.35nixu& really liked the idea
23:46.54nixuAny tips from where i can down load the sources an compile them ??
23:47.25nixuis there a cvs for universal?
23:47.52nixuany help?\
23:48.03cr2+#if defined(QT_QWS_IPAQ) || defined(QT_QWS_SL5XXX)
23:48.03cr2<PROTECTED>
23:48.03cr2<PROTECTED>
23:48.11cr2this looks suspicious.
23:48.20cr2nixu: which sources ?
23:48.40cr2kernel of userspace ?
23:48.45cr2s/of/or/
23:50.06nixulets start with the kernel at least
23:51.14goxboxlivenixu: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel
23:51.39nixu10x will give it alook
23:51.47cr2goxboxlive: have you deleted the .12 and .16 files ?
23:52.26cr2NOTE: package sqlite3-3.3.9-r2: task do_compile: failed
23:52.26cr2ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting
23:52.26cr2NOTE: package sqlite3-3.3.9: failed
23:52.26cr2ERROR: Build of opie-image failed
23:52.46cr2| ./.libs/libsqlite3.so: undefined reference to `pthread_key_create'
23:52.50cr2| ./.libs/libsqlite3.so: undefined reference to `pthread_getspecific'
23:52.54cr2| ./.libs/libsqlite3.so: undefined reference to `pthread_create'
23:52.58cr2| ./.libs/libsqlite3.so: undefined reference to `pthread_setspecific'
23:52.59cr2| ./.libs/libsqlite3.so: undefined reference to `pthread_join'
23:52.59cr2| collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
23:52.59cr2| make: *** [sqlite3] Fehler 1
23:52.59cr2| FATAL: oe_runmake failed
23:53.15cr2goxboxlive: can you compile this package ?
23:53.17goxboxlivei dont remember
23:53.35cr2it's strait bitbake opie-image
23:54.02goxboxlivenot now, my OE.dev has crashed and i havent checked out a new one yes
23:54.05goxboxliveyest
23:54.07goxboxliveyet
23:54.10goxboxlive:-)
23:54.10cr2ok.
23:54.13cr2http://gnulinux.biz/files/Universal/sd-mmc
23:54.18cr2.12 and .16 are there.
23:54.53cr2the squlite compilation looks like an oe bug.
23:55.17cr2pH5: can you compile sqlite3 ?
23:56.15pH5dunno. gpe uses sqlite 2.8.17
23:56.27cr2hmm.
23:56.58cr2can you try to bitbake sqlite3 ?
23:57.06cr2only this package.
23:57.17pH5cr2: already started :)
23:57.43cr2thanks :)

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