| 00:05.28 | ljp | you will need about 2gb to install the sdk |
| 00:05.56 | BabelOued | ljp: argh ... noooo :( |
| 00:05.58 | cr2 | ljp: these are peanuts. |
| 00:06.22 | cr2 | BabelOued: it has very strange limitations. |
| 00:07.07 | ljp | you can exrract qtopia, scripts, toolchain to your desktop |
| 00:07.29 | cr2 | the tiles should be exactly 1280x1024 size, or something like that. and they don't get the projections right (for historical reasons), so there are some distortions. |
| 00:08.08 | BabelOued | ljp: what do you think about my idea to override some class using gnokii ? |
| 00:09.45 | cr2 | ljp: i understand that the omadrm is not released with source, but atinterface ?? |
| 00:10.25 | cr2 | BabelOued: downloaded. |
| 00:10.36 | ljp | sorry, not up to me :( |
| 00:10.59 | BabelOued | cr2: already ? outch, really speed |
| 00:11.45 | ljp | still trying to get them to open telephony |
| 00:12.57 | BabelOued | cr2: what is your lan setting ? university lan ? |
| 00:13.56 | cr2 | ljp: i see. thanks. |
| 00:14.03 | BabelOued | cr2: i m curious about gpsdrive speed on IPAQ |
| 00:14.18 | cr2 | BabelOued: yes. 600k to qtopia.net |
| 00:15.00 | BabelOued | i finish dowload in 8 min |
| 00:15.06 | cr2 | BabelOued: i doubt somebody uses it on ipaq these days. i'm on the gpsdriver ml. |
| 00:15.19 | BabelOued | ok |
| 00:16.21 | gw280 | ljp!!!!!!!! |
| 00:18.47 | cr2 | wow. vmplayer is a 286M download. |
| 00:19.19 | cr2 | but now it's 4Mbit/sec :) |
| 00:20.23 | cr2 | no; it was something different |
| 00:21.18 | cr2 | Note: In appreciation of your efforts, those who complete the registration by 12/31/2006 will be entered into a drawing for a chance to win a number of Apple iPod Nanos. |
| 00:22.54 | BabelOued | :) you lose ... maybe you win a ipod carry key instead ( i don't know if it is the right word for that ) |
| 00:23.11 | cr2 | iphone. so i can port linux to it :) |
| 00:23.14 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.32 | cr2 | Deliver software evaluations to customers (e.g. software vendors) |
| 00:23.39 | cr2 | sounds fair :D |
| 00:23.43 | BabelOued | cr2: i ve already vmware on my computer :) |
| 00:24.36 | cr2 | i hate such registrations. |
| 00:24.37 | BabelOued | full hard drive, but lot of software |
| 00:26.39 | cr2 | is it some javascript or some slimy cookies they are using there on vmplayer site? i can't "accept" their license. looking at the page source, |
| 00:27.36 | BabelOued | cr2: i don't know i use firefox and have already my key |
| 00:28.44 | cr2 | i have konqueror + privoxy + even more fitering java/script/cookies off. |
| 00:28.46 | BabelOued | cr2: do you know if there is any news about h4000 acx ? |
| 00:28.54 | cr2 | no news afaik. |
| 00:29.10 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.15 | cr2 | lol. |
| 00:30.18 | cr2 | http://www.vmware.com/download/player/download.html |
| 00:30.50 | cr2 | wow. 6Mbit/S |
| 00:31.11 | BabelOued | another better version 1.0.3, i m not up to date :( |
| 00:32.26 | cr2 | i need to install vmware with some weird binary modules ? no way in hell! |
| 00:33.06 | BabelOued | cr2: it is like nvidia graphic card :( |
| 00:33.24 | cr2 | i use 'nv' driver where needed. |
| 00:34.01 | BabelOued | i want twinview support and good tv output :( |
| 00:34.03 | cr2 | and old ati on the notebook. |
| 00:34.15 | BabelOued | what is your ati chipset ? |
| 00:34.34 | cr2 | rv300. with linux hw opengl support |
| 00:35.05 | BabelOued | can you use suspend / resume with nv driver ? or you use virutal X server ? |
| 00:35.40 | cr2 | i guess the TV support is not more complicated to RE than BA. |
| 00:35.55 | cr2 | never use suspend/resume on the machine with nv card. |
| 00:36.33 | cr2 | opengl on nvidia is a lot of work i'll guess. |
| 00:36.36 | gw280 | cr2: they're not binary modules, they're open source |
| 00:36.51 | cr2 | gw280: what ? |
| 00:36.57 | gw280 | cr2: vmware |
| 00:37.03 | gw280 | cr2: the vmware modules are open source |
| 00:37.58 | cr2 | gw280: i don't want to mess with the dual opteron machine with 8GB RAM. i boot it already with some quirks, because suse gets confused by the hw setup. |
| 00:38.19 | gw280 | cr2: I see |
| 00:38.28 | cr2 | i only want to pick out the libs. |
| 00:38.42 | cr2 | and look at them. closely. |
| 00:52.12 | cr2 | OMG. is it a full linux virtual install ? |
| 00:52.23 | cr2 | time to go to bed. |
| 00:52.26 | cr2 | good night. |
| 00:52.32 | BabelOued | good night |
| 00:57.00 | cr2 | strings qtopia.vmdk | grep AT| sort | less |
| 00:58.20 | cr2 | hm. lost uniq. |
| 00:59.19 | cr2 | ok. now it looks more like http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM |
| 00:59.55 | cr2 | AT-command Interpreter ready |
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| 01:00.02 | cr2 | looks familiar :) |
| 01:00.11 | BabelOued | yes :) |
| 01:00.14 | DeadlyNinja | what version of the BA roms are the developers of htc-linux using? |
| 01:01.01 | BabelOued | DeadlyNinja: version of BA roms ? you can use WM2005 or WM2003 |
| 01:01.04 | cr2 | BA roms ? |
| 01:01.16 | DeadlyNinja | blue angel |
| 01:01.28 | DeadlyNinja | the radio rom, etc |
| 01:02.12 | BabelOued | DeadlyNinja: last one from xanadux don t change anything, you can boot linux on every one |
| 01:02.19 | cr2 | radio rom does not matter. it's a separate device, and the GSM command set does not really differ between the versions. |
| 01:02.36 | cr2 | AT+CPWROFF |
| 01:02.40 | lucificifus | cr2, whats the status on Apache and/or CDMA? |
| 01:03.13 | cr2 | CDMA is not working afaik. |
| 01:03.14 | BabelOued | cr2: it is the flight mode command :) ? |
| 01:03.25 | lucificifus | cr2, thanks :) |
| 01:03.39 | cr2 | because of some strange 256byte binary blobs. |
| 01:03.50 | cr2 | read the ApachePhone page in hh.org wiki |
| 01:04.06 | cr2 | BabelOued: not on the htc phones :) |
| 01:04.14 | cr2 | AT+CREG=1 |
| 01:04.18 | cr2 | hehe. not 2 |
| 01:04.35 | cr2 | AT+CSQ |
| 01:05.00 | cr2 | AT+CBST=134,1,0 |
| 01:05.04 | cr2 | i like this one. |
| 01:05.38 | BabelOued | CSQ works on BA too , HTCCSQ is simple level 0 to 7 vs CSQ output level 0 to 99 but with 22 steps |
| 01:06.13 | cr2 | ok. so why do they have HTCCSQ ? |
| 01:06.17 | cr2 | AT*ESIL? |
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| 01:06.26 | cr2 | this is some ericsson stuff. |
| 01:07.03 | cr2 | AT+WIND=1023 |
| 01:07.04 | BabelOued | maybe there is some extyend but i see some htccsq command after receiving +CMT |
| 01:07.08 | cr2 | this is for wavecom. |
| 01:08.05 | lucificifus | can anyone verify if xanadux anoncvs is working? I ... can't seem to get in |
| 01:08.19 | cr2 | does not look like there is BT support. |
| 01:08.35 | cr2 | lucificifus: for the gomunicator ? |
| 01:08.41 | lucificifus | haret |
| 01:09.03 | BabelOued | it is strange there is some patch for btsco support |
| 01:09.07 | lucificifus | gnu-pxa haret specifically |
| 01:09.15 | DeadlyNinja | i just got this phone hours ago, so im a total newb with it. do you guys recommend WM2005? |
| 01:10.59 | cr2 | DeadlyNinja: it's good for hard resets :) |
| 01:11.25 | lucificifus | cr2, seriously though. I'm suprised how often my Apache crashes just doing normal stuff! |
| 01:11.33 | DeadlyNinja | cr2, you mean its good at causing them? |
| 01:12.14 | cr2 | DeadlyNinja: no, it's good for dual-boot. |
| 01:12.15 | BabelOued | DeadlyNinja: no, when you boot under linux, it erase all your contact sms and other if you are running WM2003 |
| 01:13.07 | cr2 | lucificifus: you should talk to Kevin2 about apache. he has done all the coding. |
| 01:13.08 | DeadlyNinja | can i tri boot 2005, 2003 and linux? |
| 01:13.39 | cr2 | BabelOued: the btsco patch is in the free version. |
| 01:13.40 | lucificifus | cr2, thanks :) good to know! where can I find his contact info? or is he online? |
| 01:13.58 | cr2 | look at the nick list. |
| 01:14.03 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 01:14.13 | lucificifus | ah, hello sir! :D |
| 01:14.34 | lucificifus | Kevin2, which Haret are you using to boot? |
| 01:14.43 | lucificifus | sorry, on Apache |
| 01:14.50 | Kevin2 | Latest mainline: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ |
| 01:14.55 | cr2 | good night guys. it's really late. |
| 01:15.04 | lucificifus | nn cr2 :) |
| 01:15.09 | Kevin2 | However, gnu-haret should also work. |
| 01:15.15 | Kevin2 | cr2: Good night. |
| 01:15.20 | lucificifus | Kevin2, thanks, I'll try that one out :) |
| 01:15.56 | BabelOued | good night, too |
| 01:16.37 | DeadlyNinja | man the wikis out there are not written with the most clarity |
| 01:18.45 | lucificifus | Kevin2, what's mainline? is that http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.4.5.exe or http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070107.exe ? |
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| 01:20.41 | Kevin2 | Grab the latest - http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070107.exe |
| 01:23.00 | lucificifus | shoot... Kevin2, how can I tell Haret to use default.txt? |
| 01:23.09 | lucificifus | (using the latest atm) |
| 01:27.48 | Kevin2 | lucificifus: I don't understand. When you run haret, it should pop up a screen. Press run to launch the commands in default.txt. |
| 01:28.23 | lucificifus | hmm. It says "Please wait while Haret Boots Linux" and then a display bar tracks across the screen |
| 01:28.34 | lucificifus | *progress bar, sorry |
| 01:29.56 | lucificifus | I might have confused my versions, let me check, sorry |
| 01:33.05 | lucificifus | strange, I have the right version |
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| 01:34.47 | phongred | hiiiiiiiiiii alllllllllllllll |
| 01:34.56 | phongred | good morning |
| 01:35.11 | DeadlyNinja | should i have any specific problems when upgrading a Siemmans SX66 to WM2005? |
| 01:37.43 | phongred | cr2 help me |
| 01:38.00 | phongred | linux PPC Blueangel wm5 |
| 01:38.03 | phongred | ? |
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| 01:39.10 | phongred | who can help me? |
| 01:39.11 | phongred | hix |
| 01:45.33 | Kevin2 | lucificifus: I added some brief directions for booting linux at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApacheLinux |
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| 03:43.52 | phongred | help |
| 04:27.33 | phongred | cr2 where are you? |
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| 05:26.46 | phongred | cr2 <== help me |
| 05:47.36 | the_sys0p | At 17:14 PST cr2 said he was going to crash out. |
| 05:47.46 | the_sys0p | It was getting late where ever he is. |
| 05:48.27 | the_sys0p | I really, honestly don't know anything much about the project right now...I just know I have a HTC-Wizard and I'd love to see Linux run on it, but I'll do anything I can to help you. |
| 06:02.22 | phongred | can you P/M with me |
| 06:27.55 | parmaster | whats the directory name you can use for wm2005 to cause it to autoboot |
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| 06:52.36 | DeadlyNinja | i ran Tools/xda-developers_Unlocker.CAB and now my screen doesnt redraw correctly |
| 06:52.47 | gxl|work | good morning |
| 06:52.54 | phongred | moring |
| 06:52.58 | DeadlyNinja | ahh no i think im bricking |
| 06:54.34 | DeadlyNinja | I am trying to unhide my extended rom as this wiki says: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Understand and i appear to have a problem |
| 06:54.44 | DeadlyNinja | how exactly is one supposed to run the .cab |
| 06:56.17 | the_sys0p | Usually if you run a .cab in WM5, it expects it to be an installer package. |
| 06:56.34 | the_sys0p | IIRC, there's a .xml file within them that has the exact instructions of what it actually does. |
| 06:57.01 | DeadlyNinja | this was in wm2003 |
| 06:57.16 | DeadlyNinja | i ran the unlocker cab, it appeared to install but now my screen wont repaint |
| 06:57.18 | the_sys0p | So, how are you "supposed" to run it may depend on what you actually grabbed when you got the .cab file. But if it was designed for the WM platform, it was probably supposed to be an 'installer' type program, and the phone will treat it as such. |
| 06:57.36 | DeadlyNinja | some things draw, and i was able to unlock my extended rom |
| 06:57.39 | the_sys0p | Were there instructions to soft reset after installing the cab? |
| 06:57.50 | the_sys0p | I'm not sure, I haven't had to do the unlock process with mine at all. |
| 06:58.00 | the_sys0p | So I don't want to direct you to do something incorrectly. :) |
| 06:58.18 | DeadlyNinja | i think i did a soft reset |
| 06:58.22 | DeadlyNinja | it goes to like a boot screen |
| 06:58.31 | the_sys0p | I'd definitely consult the xda-developers.com forums and the download site to see if anyone has had a similar issue. |
| 06:58.37 | DeadlyNinja | ive had this phone for less than 24 hours |
| 06:58.42 | DeadlyNinja | less than 12 actually |
| 06:58.56 | the_sys0p | Usually the phone will have a hard reset method you can do too, and (in theory) you might be able to use that method to reset it to factory defaults. |
| 06:59.10 | the_sys0p | I haven't got mine anywhere near 'brick' status to test though either...heh. |
| 06:59.43 | DeadlyNinja | well its partially usable as is, do you think a hard reset would re-lock the extended rom? |
| 07:00.16 | the_sys0p | A hard reset (I think) basically resets it to complete factory defaults from an on-board backup. |
| 07:00.33 | the_sys0p | It usually requires an odd key combination and sequence to complete. |
| 07:00.43 | the_sys0p | I'm not sure if all phones even have it. |
| 07:00.46 | DeadlyNinja | hm, might end up doing that |
| 07:00.49 | DeadlyNinja | this is a sx66 |
| 07:01.06 | the_sys0p | Hmm...I've got a Cingular 8125...not sure how different it is on yours. |
| 07:01.48 | the_sys0p | On mine it is something like the comm manager button, plus the d-pad button, and the power button, then hitting d-pad up when it shows the color bars, or something like that. |
| 07:02.29 | the_sys0p | If you look it up on the xda-developer.com forums though, you should probably find it. |
| 07:02.29 | the_sys0p | Or the wiki. |
| 07:02.29 | DeadlyNinja | maybe i shouldnt be messing with this stuff, do i have to flash any roms to get linux to boot |
| 07:02.43 | the_sys0p | I'm not sure, I haven't gone through the process myself. |
| 07:03.00 | the_sys0p | I plan to do it soon, maybe this weekend when I have some time. |
| 07:03.03 | the_sys0p | To at least try it. |
| 07:03.39 | the_sys0p | I only just found the HTC-Wizard Linux project earlier today. |
| 07:04.31 | the_sys0p | Alright...gotta crash out so I can go to work tomorrow. |
| 07:04.42 | DeadlyNinja | k thanks see ya |
| 07:04.42 | the_sys0p | Sorry I couldn't be of any more help. :( |
| 07:14.45 | DeadlyNinja | can anyone here help me with some initial setup for the blueangel |
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| 07:32.18 | DeadlyNinja | hm im starting to think this thing is more robust than i thought |
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| 07:38.57 | DeadlyNinja | well a hard reset "Fixed" it |
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| 08:22.52 | phongred | hello DeadlyNinja |
| 08:23.19 | phongred | i have some problem with Linux and Blueangel |
| 08:23.36 | DeadlyNinja | im not the one to ask |
| 08:23.54 | DeadlyNinja | im way new with this stuff |
| 08:23.59 | DeadlyNinja | and also afk |
| 08:32.07 | kimuSan^ | the I phone should run with a Samsung processor. I am trying to get it verified with one of the techies |
| 08:32.14 | kimuSan^ | iPhone |
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| 08:39.53 | Fossi | according to a guy from the ipodlinux channel, modifying it to run anything else than OSX will be a major pita, if that's the intention (and not just curiosity) |
| 08:41.13 | Fossi | he works at apple and says that the 2gen nano will be easier to modify and that's encrypted to death |
| 08:41.27 | kimuSan^ | yes that seems likely |
| 08:43.34 | Fossi | imho it's totally overhyped |
| 08:44.11 | Fossi | the german newspaper my parents are reading today had a 2-page article about it calling it a 'wonder phone' |
| 08:44.29 | parmaster | i'm sure there will be a vulnerability somewhere that can be exploited in the/some software on it |
| 08:44.55 | parmaster | i dunno how their encryption is set up though |
| 08:45.21 | parmaster | if its like the psp then i'm sure someone somewhere down the line will get into it |
| 08:45.47 | Fossi | the new nano is pretty tight |
| 08:47.34 | Fossi | iirc hardware 'disk' encryption for one |
| 08:49.26 | parmaster | its more in the mechanics of it... and how its implemented.. also whether an exploit can defeat it |
| 08:49.43 | parmaster | well, time for me to go to sleep |
| 08:50.29 | parmaster | if anyone has a binar(ies) for the HTC Apache latest kernel and kernel modules pls point me to a link :) |
| 08:50.30 | parmaster | nite |
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| 10:18.07 | gxl|work | cr2: If you are about to buy yorself a car, and you are looking for an Audi. There is a shoåp with the name "carshop-none-Audi". Would you have entered that store and asked for an Audi? |
| 10:18.30 | gxl|work | You see my poing of naming it "gcc-none-eabi". |
| 10:24.57 | gxl|work | s/poing/point/ |
| 10:35.06 | cr2 | gxl|work: auto* naming convention is known since ages. cpu-vendor-variation-program |
| 10:35.46 | cr2 | alphaev5-unknown-ecoff-gcc |
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| 11:54.36 | gxl|work | i Have a initramfs image on my SD card for the universal. It's big (64MB), but i managed to boot it today. |
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| 11:57.34 | cableroy_ | Hello, i got some questions about HTC Blueangle with linux, heh can i use it as a phone and sms? |
| 12:41.02 | BabelO | cableroy_ : : not at the moment with latest version, you have to wait, or use this one http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux/ and read how to setup here http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel. Good luck |
| 12:51.06 | cableroy_ | BabelO ya, that was the one, i can see GSM working but have to ealy alpha og Gomunicator? |
| 12:52.30 | BabelO | cableroy_ : ok so maybe try to get latest from CVS |
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| 13:29.14 | cableroy_ | i see that they use sd card to boot linux, does that mean that i can have windows mobile on it, and just boot to linux when ever i want to impres my friends? :D |
| 13:32.08 | pH5 | cableroy_: yes |
| 13:34.01 | cableroy_ | kool, i'll get one of those |
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| 14:27.19 | IDOIT | Hi all |
| 14:27.56 | IDOIT | could anyone get gsm phore running on Universal ? i remember i've read something like this on the site .. |
| 14:28.14 | IDOIT | sorry i mean phone :) |
| 14:30.19 | IDOIT | i'm running Linux 2.6.16 and i've tried both Opie and GPE |
| 14:33.23 | BabelO | IDOIT : try 2.6.19 GPE image http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus |
| 14:37.25 | IDOIT | BabelO: thanks, i'll try them |
| 14:38.16 | BabelO | IDOIT : : you have a phone software only under GPE |
| 14:39.14 | IDOIT | BabelO: that what i was going to ask .. cause in the status page it's written that phone calls are made from terminal :) |
| 14:39.58 | IDOIT | BabelO: but when i tried GPE it took really long time to boot |
| 14:40.00 | BabelO | IDOIT : yes phone call are working with basic AT command using CU or minicom |
| 14:40.22 | BabelO | IDOIT : but maybe you have gommunicator installed on this image |
| 14:40.35 | pH5 | BabelO: CU/minicom, that's how a real geek's phone should work like ;) |
| 14:41.08 | BabelO | IDOIT : yes, long time GPE -> XServer + GTK |
| 14:41.35 | cr2 | pH5: you forgot i2cset for switching on the mic and enabling the mono output :) |
| 14:41.40 | IDOIT | BabelO: but Opie booted much faster |
| 14:41.51 | pH5 | cr2: on the magician I switch the mic with devmem2 ;) |
| 14:42.12 | cr2 | pH5: magician is not user-friendly :) |
| 14:47.59 | IDOIT | is it published when OpenMOKO sources will be published ? |
| 14:48.23 | IDOIT | it seems very interesting |
| 14:49.13 | cr2 | IDOIT: "in February" |
| 14:50.10 | IDOIT | cr2: thats nice, .. but i think it's very CPU demanding |
| 14:53.21 | cr2 | universal has better and faster hardware, so if it will be bearable on s3c2410, it will be ok on pxa270. |
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| 15:32.27 | logan | Hello!! I have been testing the last Anstrom-gpe-image and it's going very well |
| 15:32.56 | logan | how I can do to develop some applications to my phone (htc-M500) |
| 15:32.57 | logan | ? |
| 15:37.03 | pH5 | hey logan. if you are interested in a complete development environment, have a look at http://www.openembedded.org/. if you just want to build a gpe application with your current toolchain, read the developer documentation on http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/ or look at the sources. |
| 15:37.40 | logan | thank you |
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| 16:22.45 | rpodgorny | hi! |
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| 16:29.20 | rpodgorny | this time, i'm gonna post some off-topic here :-) i'm writing a translation and i'd like to ask native english speakers among you whether i can use "in the final part, there is..." ...or does the "there is" have to be strictly at the beginning? |
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| 16:33.39 | the_sys0p | It might even sound more natural to have it at the end like you have in your example. |
| 16:33.59 | the_sys0p | So either place would be fine, but I would probably write it as you have it there. |
| 16:34.30 | rpodgorny | thanks! that's exactly what i thought... |
| 16:36.54 | rpodgorny | btw, any news on blueangel? is the suspend/resume working (did not when i last checked)? |
| 16:38.39 | the_sys0p | I don't know...I'm brand new to this right now. I'm a developer, and I would love to get rid of WM5, so I'm eager to try this at least, and contribute where I can. |
| 16:39.08 | cr2 | rpodgorny: why don't you compile the kernel and check ? |
| 16:40.39 | rpodgorny | because i have to write my final thesis right now :-( and i was just curious... |
| 16:41.21 | rpodgorny | the_sys0p: i don't have much time to do serious development but dumping windows is my target, too... |
| 16:41.39 | the_sys0p | My main problem is time too. :( |
| 16:43.03 | rpodgorny | yeah, the time is always the problem :-) if only i was paid for such development... |
| 16:46.14 | pH5 | cr2: any news on the camera driver? |
| 16:47.14 | cr2 | no. i'm busy with other things. |
| 16:47.30 | cr2 | but the driver is in motorola kernel |
| 16:47.42 | cr2 | ov9650.c |
| 16:47.56 | cr2 | and pxa_camera_ov.c or something like that. |
| 16:48.36 | cr2 | pxa_camrea_xxx.c should be platform_device pxa27x-cif probably. |
| 16:52.01 | BabelO | cr2 : : suspend/resume works on BA if we disable LCD power ( blueangel_lcd_hw_off() ) shutdown... i don't know why... |
| 16:59.11 | cr2 | BabelO: what is the difference between QPixmap*& and const QPixmap& ? g++ is unhappy. |
| 16:59.33 | goxboxlive | hmm yes, it worked. I used the gcc compiler at codesourcery and it booted. I have updated the kernel compiling wiki. |
| 17:01.10 | BabelO | cr2 : : it is the same, only depending of the call |
| 17:01.23 | ellisway | hmm goxboxlive u could do with doing another update on tat wiki page |
| 17:01.29 | BabelO | cr2 : where do you have this ? |
| 17:01.50 | cr2 | trying to compile the qt3 app with qt4 |
| 17:01.56 | goxboxlive | ellisway: What do you mean? |
| 17:01.59 | ellisway | bash$ cd / (where you saved the gcc compiler) |
| 17:01.59 | ellisway | bash$ tar -xvjf arm-{version}-27-arm-none-eabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 -C $home/ |
| 17:02.00 | ellisway | bash$ cd / (where you saved the gcc compiler) |
| 17:02.00 | ellisway | bash$ tar -xvjf arm-{version}-27-arm-none-eabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 -C $home/ |
| 17:02.13 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you have this in wiki ---> bash$ cd make htcuniversal_defconfig |
| 17:02.24 | goxboxlive | WHat is wrong with that? I have just updated it. |
| 17:02.32 | ellisway | its repeated |
| 17:02.34 | goxboxlive | realy |
| 17:02.38 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:02.40 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 17:02.49 | ellisway | same with the bash$ export PATH=$home/arm-{version}/bin:$PATH |
| 17:02.49 | ellisway | bash$ export PATH=$home/arm-{version}/bin:$PATH |
| 17:03.29 | cr2 | yes, and later |
| 17:03.34 | cr2 | bash$ cd make htcuniversal_defconfig |
| 17:03.41 | ellisway | yeh |
| 17:04.40 | goxboxlive | updated |
| 17:04.41 | cr2 | BabelO: sometimes c++ is evil :) i wanted to replace the bitBlt with drawPixmap. |
| 17:04.54 | ellisway | :) |
| 17:05.14 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.40 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
| 17:06.21 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, So, you were right - qte build for universal missed bunch of starndard patches. Fixed. Please try again running w/o QWS* envvars. |
| 17:07.45 | BabelO | cr2 : for kernel discuss, to checkout cvs i ve used " cvs up -d " yesturday |
| 17:08.26 | cr2 | psokolovsky: can i avoid compiling the kernel for universal in oe ? |
| 17:08.53 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky i am allways right. But you mean that i should try compiling without my local patching. |
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| 17:08.59 | cr2 | BabelO: i normally use 'cvs up -dfP > /tmp/hh' and look what has appeared in /tmp/hh |
| 17:09.39 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you should not do any local patching at all. |
| 17:09.58 | cr2 | it defeats the purpose of oe completely. |
| 17:10.06 | psokolovsky | cr2, depending what you mean. yes, you can use your own compile instead one by OE. as for skipping compile in OE, well, it's possible, but why bother? |
| 17:10.29 | cr2 | psokolovsky: because it's broken now. |
| 17:10.35 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, ;-). yep, ideally you should try w/o local patches, and with common opie startup script |
| 17:10.48 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, all needed changes should be in OE (e.g., vt 3) |
| 17:10.50 | cr2 | and i can't finish the build. |
| 17:11.06 | psokolovsky | cr2, the we need to fix it asap! what's broken? |
| 17:11.33 | BabelO | cr2 : : you solve Qpixmap issue ? |
| 17:11.41 | goxboxlive | cr2: Well if i had a patch that overide the patching in to qte-mt. Otherwise it is local patching or non keyboard. |
| 17:12.09 | cr2 | the handhelds_*whatever_*.bb wants to compile the .18-hh1 tag and it does not work. |
| 17:12.24 | cr2 | goxboxlive: then submit this patch to oe. |
| 17:12.25 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky, so i should also forget about the local opie file in opie-taskbar/htcuniversal/opie |
| 17:12.28 | cr2 | BabelO: no. |
| 17:12.42 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, exactly. it will go anyway. |
| 17:12.45 | goxboxlive | cr2: mne breaks other devices. |
| 17:12.53 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:13.36 | cr2 | goxboxlive: if this patch is applied only for universal, it will not break any other devices. |
| 17:14.10 | BabelO | cr2 : : what is your declaration of QPixmap parameters used by drawPixmap ? |
| 17:14.53 | psokolovsky | cr2, well, you perfectly know that fixing that is 10 keypresses, locally ;-) |
| 17:15.03 | psokolovsky | cr2, I'll run that thru Koen |
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| 17:15.52 | cr2 | BabelO: QPixmap* pixmap |
| 17:16.33 | cr2 | psokolovsky: i know, but there are many people who do oe install, and all ask me what's wrong with the compilation ;) |
| 17:17.54 | cr2 | i'm not against the old tag, but it should at least compile. |
| 17:18.37 | goxboxlive | It's just to change the tag. It is tagged with 18-hh1 now, and everyone know that this tag didnt work because of audit. |
| 17:19.00 | goxboxlive | If we change it to 19-hh8 in angstrom.conf it will build. |
| 17:20.40 | cr2 | hmm. if nobody can build the kernel, why is it simply ignored ? puzzled now. |
| 17:24.53 | goxboxlive | cr2: It's ignored because i am the only one who build for universal |
| 17:27.33 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:33.03 | BabelO | cr2 : you have looked here ? http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/qpainter.html#drawPixmap |
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| 17:43.14 | BabelO | cr2 : ok go back to home trying to build modem plugin :) |
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| 19:22.44 | logan | what is new at last version of gpe? |
| 19:24.22 | pH5 | logan: that's a question for #gpe, not #htc-linux :) |
| 19:25.00 | logan | sorry |
| 19:27.37 | logan | pH5: I was looking for gpio-keys module in the /lib/modules/2.6.19-hh7 directory but it isn't there |
| 19:27.54 | logan | do you know something about this? |
| 19:32.20 | pH5 | logan: the prebuilt 2.6.19 kernels in the images have gpio-keys compiled in. |
| 19:32.59 | logan | ok |
| 19:33.08 | pH5 | logan: if you'd like to try, I have uploaded a new image together with a 2.6.19-hh8 kernel |
| 19:33.41 | logan | perfect |
| 19:33.43 | logan | I will try |
| 19:36.15 | pH5 | it still has dbus issues and wrong permissions on /var/tmp. I only fixed the kernel. |
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| 19:44.16 | VisN | pH5, gpe(angstrom) works on my magician :) phone, battery and sound works 2 |
| 19:45.23 | pH5 | VisN: great, glad to hear it! now go fix the remaining problems ;) |
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| 21:05.09 | VisN | I've login to my magician PDA-phone by ssh through usbnet, thats fun =) |
| 21:19.09 | goxboxlive | little action today |
| 21:24.04 | BabelO | cr2: can t use all phone class :( i continue with my gui |
| 21:24.51 | cr2 | BabelO: qt4 is a massive change from qt3 ;) |
| 21:25.17 | BabelO | cr2: lot of interesting thing |
| 21:25.51 | cr2 | even the most simple things have changed completely |
| 21:26.24 | BabelO | i m looking QThread to monitor ttySx ... |
| 21:27.13 | BabelO | i like to understand if i can use xml simple signal meter gauge already in qtopia |
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| 21:51.21 | Belu | hi |
| 21:52.23 | Belu | i just want to know if it's possible to run Xanadux on HTC Tytn |
| 21:52.24 | Belu | ? |
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| 22:07.31 | Belu | y'a pas grand monde qui parle ici |
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| 22:29.17 | lucificifus | Kevin2, hey :) Quick question: have you looked at the INF file "CDMA USB Modem.INF" on the Verizon HTC Apache welcome disc? because it contains what looks like modem control codes |
| 22:29.52 | lucificifus | HKR,GenerateDigit,1,,"AT#VTS=<Digit><cr>" <-- etc |
| 22:30.57 | lucificifus | if that would be of any interest making CDMA work in HTC Apache |
| 22:55.21 | lkcl_ | Belu, you donut: we're working on it, and you need to stick around whilst people come back and review the irc history! |
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