| 00:01.24 | cr2 | hmm. used hx4700 as a base. |
| 00:03.02 | psokolovsky | cr2, we all need do some grepping before starting implement sth ;-). h4000 has 2 such and 2 such leds (2 green ;-) ). |
| 00:03.14 | cr2 | int gpio_num; /* Number of GPIO if hw_num == -1 */ |
| 00:03.25 | cr2 | how is it counted ? |
| 00:04.00 | cr2 | well, it's difficult to keep track of all ports ;) for us mere mortals :) |
| 00:04.06 | psokolovsky | cr2, as we discussed - "thru, natural numbering. GPIOA0 = 0, etc... |
| 00:04.20 | cr2 | up to 63 ? |
| 00:05.27 | psokolovsky | cr2, yup. it would be nice to make something like hacking sessions, when active ports/mainatainer hack on oen feature (like that ak4641 hacking ;-)) |
| 00:05.33 | psokolovsky | cr2, yep, up to 63 |
| 00:06.12 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:08.36 | goxboxlive | cr2: Have you made the Kconfig yet, or is it a lot of work? |
| 00:13.38 | cr2 | goxboxlive: in 5 minutes. |
| 00:13.50 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 00:18.30 | cr2 | compiling. |
| 00:18.34 | goxboxlive | good |
| 00:18.59 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:19.31 | cr2 | what did you want me to change in the defconfig ? |
| 00:19.38 | cr2 | remove zaurus ? |
| 00:20.03 | goxboxlive | do we need it? |
| 00:20.08 | goxboxlive | kerberos |
| 00:20.19 | goxboxlive | pppoex |
| 00:20.45 | cr2 | no, but i don't see it in menuconfig. |
| 00:20.48 | goxboxlive | Have to take a crying child, bb in 5 min |
| 00:23.12 | cr2 | find . -name Kconfig | xargs grep -i krb5 |
| 00:25.44 | cr2 | secure rpc is not selected. |
| 00:26.39 | cr2 | ok. found zaurus. |
| 00:27.25 | cr2 | removed pppoe |
| 00:27.57 | cr2 | config NFS_V4 |
| 00:27.57 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.57 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.57 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.19 | cr2 | then we should remove NFS_V4 support. |
| 00:28.28 | cr2 | keep it. |
| 00:32.01 | cr2 | goxboxlive: done. |
| 00:35.09 | cr2 | now the major brick is the full ak4641 support. |
| 00:35.23 | cr2 | and the cameras. but it can wait. |
| 00:35.42 | cr2 | i wish motorola has written more clean code ;) |
| 00:36.33 | goxboxlive | i'm backi am updating cvs now |
| 00:39.52 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i can write a gazillion of "radio buttons" and slider controls for ak4641 but BabelO should tell me what kind of them he needs for qtopia. |
| 00:40.09 | goxboxlive | ok, good |
| 00:40.30 | BabelO | cr2: gazillon of "radio buttons" ? |
| 00:42.21 | cr2 | yes. 3 mics for example. |
| 00:42.53 | cr2 | do you know any good alsa controls documentation ? |
| 00:43.02 | cr2 | https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=MixerAPIalsalib |
| 00:43.09 | cr2 | this one is not very helpful. |
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| 00:45.23 | BabelO | no documentation about alsa, i read a time ago code of jack driver |
| 00:45.27 | BabelO | it was clean |
| 00:46.19 | cr2 | ACTL(playback_volume, "Master Playback Volume") |
| 00:46.20 | cr2 | ACTL(mic_gain, "Mic Capture Gain") |
| 00:46.57 | cr2 | right now i see these two. |
| 00:47.10 | cr2 | the first is a "slider" (options range), the second one is a "switch" (2 options). |
| 00:47.55 | cr2 | ACTL_BOOL(playback_switch, "Master Playback Switch") |
| 00:47.55 | cr2 | ACTL_BOOL(mic_boost, "Mic Boost (+20dB)") |
| 00:48.28 | BabelO | it is like Kmix entry |
| 00:48.36 | cr2 | it seems that's all. |
| 00:48.54 | cr2 | and we need to have common controls with uda1380. |
| 00:49.14 | BabelO | How do you choose mic ? you have only one ? |
| 00:49.22 | cr2 | hmm. ACTL(mic_gain, "Mic Capture Gain") |
| 00:49.27 | cr2 | seems to be a slider too. |
| 00:49.36 | cr2 | 3 |
| 00:49.44 | cr2 | int,ext,BT. |
| 00:50.00 | cr2 | 3 "speakers" |
| 00:50.08 | cr2 | int,ext,bt. |
| 00:50.26 | cr2 | and the phone "own" speakers. |
| 00:50.27 | BabelO | Universal is a really nice HomeCinema :) |
| 00:50.36 | cr2 | but they are controlled by AT commands. |
| 00:50.44 | cr2 | yeah. with 2 cams. |
| 00:51.33 | BabelO | ok i copy that into Klipboard since ibot are down :( |
| 00:52.50 | cr2 | Documentation/sound/alsa |
| 00:53.01 | cr2 | does not have ACTL, ACTL_BOOL |
| 00:53.04 | goxboxlive | have to reboot, gcc is killing my computer |
| 00:54.51 | cr2 | it's a hack by Giorgio |
| 00:55.05 | cr2 | ACTL_BOOL(playback_switch, "Master Playback Switch") |
| 00:55.05 | cr2 | ACTL_BOOL(agc, "AGC") |
| 00:55.05 | cr2 | ACTL_BOOL(capture_switch, "Capture Switch") |
| 00:55.12 | cr2 | these are for uda1380 |
| 00:55.53 | cr2 | even more cryptic controls: |
| 00:55.58 | cr2 | ACTL_REG_ELEM_INT_STEREO(playback_volume, "Master Playback Volume", 0x10, 0, 0xffff, 1, 0) |
| 00:56.02 | cr2 | ACTL_REG_ELEM_INT(deemphasis, "De-Emphasis", 0x13, 0, 0x0007, 0, 0) |
| 00:56.06 | cr2 | ACTL_REG_ELEM_INT(tone_ctl_strength, "Tone Control - Strength", 0x12, 14, 0x0003, 0, 0) |
| 00:56.10 | cr2 | ACTL_REG_ELEM_INT_STEREO(tone_ctl_treble, "Tone Control - Treble", 0x12, 4, 0x0303, 0, 0) |
| 00:56.10 | cr2 | ACTL_REG_ELEM_INT_STEREO(tone_ctl_bass, "Tone Control - Bass", 0x12, 0, 0x0f0f, 0, 0) |
| 00:56.10 | cr2 | ACTL_REG_ELEM_INT(mic_gain, "Mic Capture Volume", 0x22, 8, 0x000f, 0, 0) |
| 00:56.10 | cr2 | ACTL_REG_ELEM_INT_STEREO(line_in_gain, "Line Capture Volume", 0x21, 0, 0x0f0f, 0, 0) |
| 00:56.11 | cr2 | ACTL_REG_ELEM_INT_STEREO(capture_volume, "Capture Volume", 0x20, 0, 0xffff, 0, 1) |
| 00:56.51 | cr2 | but these are relatively static. |
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| 00:58.26 | cr2 | heh. openmoko can be quite handy, but it's just not there. |
| 00:59.54 | jjazz | What's not there? |
| 01:00.19 | cr2 | the source |
| 01:00.57 | cr2 | and the hardware too, but i'd like to look at the sound mixer controls. |
| 01:01.21 | goxboxlive | this ones should also be removed: |
| 01:01.23 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.23 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.28 | jjazz | Source should be available soon. If you want it sooner, it might be possible. |
| 01:01.30 | cr2 | to save me some time understanding this complex stuff. |
| 01:01.51 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it is selected by NFS_V4 |
| 01:01.59 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 01:02.27 | goxboxlive | booting now |
| 01:02.27 | cr2 | jjazz: it's a wm7xxx codec ? |
| 01:03.37 | jjazz | cr2: I don't know what it is. I haven't seen the code either. |
| 01:03.53 | goxboxlive | root@htcuniversal:~$ ls -la /sys/class/leds/ |
| 01:03.53 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 0 Jan 9 02:04 . |
| 01:03.53 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 0 Jan 9 02:04 .. |
| 01:03.53 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 9 02:04 htcuniversal:flashl |
| 01:03.53 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 9 02:04 htcuniversal:green |
| 01:03.54 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 9 02:04 htcuniversal:kbdbac |
| 01:03.56 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 9 02:04 htcuniversal:phoneb |
| 01:03.58 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 9 02:04 htcuniversal:red |
| 01:04.00 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 9 02:04 htcuniversal:vibra |
| 01:04.02 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 9 02:04 htcuniversal:wifi-b' |
| 01:04.04 | goxboxlive | I'll try them out |
| 01:04.12 | jjazz | cr2: I mentioned that you guys are hacking linux on the universal to Sean Moss-Pultz (an OpenMoko guy). I told him this in the context of you being interesting and a project he might want to be aware of. He expressed interest in an introduction. If you want to ask him directly for some source code, I'd be happy to put you in contact. |
| 01:05.11 | goxboxlive | brightness works |
| 01:05.47 | goxboxlive | green works |
| 01:06.09 | cr2 | jjazz: good idea, but to be honest i'll be quite busy in the next two weeks. |
| 01:06.14 | goxboxlive | keyboard backlight works :-= |
| 01:06.19 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 01:06.30 | cr2 | goxboxlive: be careful with the flash. |
| 01:06.59 | goxboxlive | just tested it |
| 01:07.06 | cr2 | :) |
| 01:07.09 | goxboxlive | phoneback buttons work |
| 01:07.21 | jjazz | cr2: Fair enough. The intro is an open offer. |
| 01:07.32 | goxboxlive | red works |
| 01:07.56 | goxboxlive | vibra works |
| 01:08.48 | goxboxlive | WIF LED doesnt work. Maybe i have to have ACX loaded to let it work. |
| 01:09.39 | goxboxlive | Yes, the wifi led works when i load the acx module. |
| 01:11.15 | goxboxlive | cr2: It doesnt seems like i can control the wifi led. Even though i have removed the acx module it still flashes. I have also tried to shut it of manually, but with no luck. |
| 01:11.32 | goxboxlive | But, great work, the leds are now finished. |
| 01:12.07 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the wifi led is under the htcuniversal_acx control. |
| 01:12.27 | goxboxlive | ok, i cant remove that one, it breaks the system |
| 01:12.51 | cr2 | the PWM is on asic3 led0, but the actual gpio enable is in htcuniversal_acx |
| 01:13.06 | cr2 | it's a broken driver design. |
| 01:13.15 | goxboxlive | The power led is not The BT led is also working when enabling BT, it also shuts off when diableing BT |
| 01:13.56 | cr2 | bt led is also controlled by htcuniversal_bt |
| 01:14.05 | goxboxlive | The power led is working when i control it manuallym, but it doesnt react when i plug in a usb/power cable |
| 01:14.31 | cr2 | yes, i'll look at htcuniversal_power and compare it with hx4700_power. |
| 01:14.41 | goxboxlive | why isent the power led controlled by the htcuniversal_power? |
| 01:14.46 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 01:14.50 | goxboxlive | i didnt see that |
| 01:14.55 | cr2 | the code was commented out. |
| 01:14.59 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 01:15.18 | goxboxlive | how can we controll the keyboard backlight? |
| 01:16.40 | cr2 | does qtopia support it ? |
| 01:17.02 | cr2 | can you think out a logic ? |
| 01:17.17 | goxboxlive | i dont know, but is there a way to make a driver for the luminance sensor? |
| 01:17.35 | cr2 | it can be certainly done inside qtopia. |
| 01:17.56 | cr2 | it needs its switch in linux/input.h |
| 01:18.04 | cr2 | afaik zaurus does not support it. |
| 01:18.09 | goxboxlive | But, if we make it in Qtopia, the we have to make it for OPie/GPE bootstrap and so on |
| 01:18.27 | goxboxlive | So we will break zaurus if we include it? |
| 01:18.43 | cr2 | then you only need to handle the switch. like LID or ROTATE switches. |
| 01:18.47 | cr2 | no. |
| 01:19.16 | cr2 | the kernel side is finished with /sys/leds/... |
| 01:19.34 | goxboxlive | ahh, i c |
| 01:19.36 | cr2 | for opie you need to edit odevice_htc.cpp i guess. |
| 01:19.41 | goxboxlive | right |
| 01:19.45 | cr2 | gpe- don't know. |
| 01:19.52 | goxboxlive | me neither |
| 01:19.59 | cr2 | in text mode you should use shell :) |
| 01:20.26 | goxboxlive | Yes, thats easiest |
| 01:20.35 | cr2 | i'd really like to see full qtopia support. |
| 01:20.47 | goxboxlive | me to, i guess we will |
| 01:20.58 | goxboxlive | BabelO has done a great job |
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| 01:21.00 | cr2 | BabelO made very good progress with the phone. |
| 01:21.09 | goxboxlive | he has, good |
| 01:21.35 | goxboxlive | I am compiling a new one now, with htc button support |
| 01:21.38 | cr2 | i only need to port zroadmap :) |
| 01:21.42 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 01:22.00 | goxboxlive | But, there is a thing i dont understand |
| 01:22.07 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you can read at xda-dev why including the modules into opie image is bad. |
| 01:22.44 | cr2 | the people use your image on alpine, and do very silly things. |
| 01:22.48 | goxboxlive | the lid/rotate and luminance sensors, they are all hardware, why shouldnt they exist in the kernel? |
| 01:23.04 | goxboxlive | How, does opie know when the swithc is activated |
| 01:23.23 | cr2 | the kernel sends them to /dev/input/eventXXX. it#s enough for the kernel. |
| 01:23.35 | goxboxlive | Ok, they should replce the modules |
| 01:23.44 | goxboxlive | ok, like TS |
| 01:23.45 | cr2 | the same with the keyboard , btw. |
| 01:23.56 | goxboxlive | But, are they listed there now? |
| 01:24.13 | cr2 | who ? |
| 01:24.28 | goxboxlive | No they are not, the lid/rotate and luminance sensor |
| 01:24.44 | cr2 | LID and ROTATE -yes. |
| 01:24.51 | goxboxlive | no |
| 01:25.06 | cr2 | but we need to extend the asic3_keys driver to suppport switches. |
| 01:25.16 | goxboxlive | root@htcuniversal:~$ ls -la /dev/input/ |
| 01:25.16 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 140 Jan 9 02:04 . |
| 01:25.16 | goxboxlive | drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 3480 Jan 9 02:04 .. |
| 01:25.16 | goxboxlive | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 64 Jan 9 02:04 event0 |
| 01:25.16 | goxboxlive | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 65 Jan 9 02:04 event1 |
| 01:25.17 | goxboxlive | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 66 Jan 9 02:04 event2 |
| 01:25.19 | goxboxlive | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 67 Jan 9 02:04 event3 |
| 01:25.21 | goxboxlive | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jan 9 02:04 touchscreen0 -> event |
| 01:25.23 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 01:25.33 | cr2 | asic3_keys is event2 |
| 01:25.36 | goxboxlive | i know |
| 01:25.45 | cr2 | you'll get switches on this device. |
| 01:25.49 | goxboxlive | right |
| 01:26.08 | goxboxlive | i thought there where one event for each |
| 01:26.15 | cr2 | yes. |
| 01:26.29 | cr2 | each has it#s own switch. |
| 01:26.36 | goxboxlive | yes i understand |
| 01:26.59 | goxboxlive | It's so good to have the key led working again |
| 01:27.07 | goxboxlive | Now i can see the buttons :-) |
| 01:27.16 | goxboxlive | i'm getting to old for this shit |
| 01:29.27 | goxboxlive | Well, once again it's getting to late. I have to go to bed, g'night. |
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| 02:08.08 | phongred | hi alll |
| 02:54.30 | phongred | helpl me |
| 02:55.25 | phongred | Who can help me telnet PC windows to PPC BlueAngel by Haret? |
| 02:55.41 | phongred | Who can help me telnet PC windows to PPC BlueAngel WM2005 by Haret? |
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| 03:33.19 | phongred | help |
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| 03:58.47 | digitalfredy | hello |
| 03:58.50 | phongred | help me |
| 03:59.15 | phongred | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.39 | phongred | i want setup Linux with my PPC. |
| 03:59.39 | phongred | i have some problem: |
| 03:59.39 | phongred | when I click haret-0.3.8.exe then Linux run. |
| 03:59.39 | phongred | Screen show stop at |
| 03:59.40 | phongred | Familiar login:root |
| 03:59.40 | phongred | and Password:rootme |
| 03:59.42 | phongred | ~# |
| 03:59.43 | apt | i guess # is pound, or hash, or sometimes the number sign. a tic-tac-toe board |
| 03:59.44 | phongred | after login, i can't fdisk, because hard keyboard cant add "+31M" . "+" not show. |
| 03:59.46 | phongred | Who can help me add " + " charactor or telnet PC windows to PPC BlueAngel WM2005 by Haret? |
| 04:01.52 | digitalfredy | y have a wizard phone and like try put linux in it |
| 04:03.48 | phongred | lol |
| 04:03.54 | phongred | you cant help me? |
| 04:03.59 | phongred | sorry |
| 04:04.06 | phongred | can you help me? |
| 04:04.15 | phongred | lol |
| 04:09.59 | digitalfredy | i don`t know |
| 04:10.19 | digitalfredy | phongred, what is your problem |
| 04:10.39 | phongred | yes |
| 04:11.08 | phongred | i want setup Linux with my PPC. |
| 04:11.08 | phongred | i have some problem: |
| 04:11.08 | phongred | when I click haret-0.3.8.exe then Linux run. |
| 04:11.08 | phongred | Screen show stop at |
| 04:11.08 | phongred | Familiar login:root |
| 04:11.09 | phongred | and Password:rootme |
| 04:11.10 | phongred | ~# |
| 04:11.11 | apt | # is, like, pound, or hash, or sometimes the number sign. a tic-tac-toe board |
| 04:11.12 | phongred | after login, i can't fdisk, because hard keyboard cant add "+31M" . "+" not show. |
| 04:11.14 | phongred | Who can help me add " + " charactor or telnet PC windows to PPC BlueAngel WM2005 by Haret? |
| 04:12.17 | digitalfredy | stop |
| 04:12.31 | digitalfredy | what is ppc for you? |
| 04:12.52 | digitalfredy | mac? |
| 04:13.30 | Ralith | he means pocketpc |
| 04:14.00 | digitalfredy | ok |
| 04:14.26 | digitalfredy | try man ascii |
| 04:15.37 | digitalfredy | or try ssh |
| 04:16.13 | digitalfredy | phongred, you ppc have ssh? |
| 04:16.27 | digitalfredy | phongred, ping |
| 04:19.11 | phongred | ppc bLUEANGEL 2005 |
| 04:19.39 | phongred | PC using windows XP and 2000 |
| 04:19.56 | phongred | PPC o2s Blueangel |
| 04:20.33 | digitalfredy | in the ppc linuxphone |
| 04:20.43 | digitalfredy | cd / |
| 04:20.45 | digitalfredy | ls |
| 04:21.18 | phongred | now you want me run linux |
| 04:21.28 | phongred | ? |
| 04:22.21 | digitalfredy | yes, not is htc-linux it chanel? |
| 04:22.47 | digitalfredy | you have or not linux in your ppc? |
| 04:23.01 | phongred | i have |
| 04:23.07 | digitalfredy | ok |
| 04:23.16 | phongred | but |
| 04:23.29 | digitalfredy | you have a console and you are root? |
| 04:23.41 | phongred | i run linux with Haret file. |
| 04:23.58 | phongred | after login i cant fdisk storagecard |
| 04:24.45 | phongred | sorry u can wait few min, I have lunch |
| 04:24.52 | digitalfredy | ok |
| 04:24.55 | phongred | thanks you |
| 04:25.17 | phongred | i'm working in company, lol |
| 04:25.24 | digitalfredy | ok |
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| 04:58.57 | phongred | hello |
| 04:59.00 | phongred | i'm here |
| 04:59.02 | phongred | lol |
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| 05:46.11 | phongred | alo |
| 05:46.23 | phongred | <digitalfredy> help me |
| 06:12.12 | kimuSan^ | morning all |
| 06:17.37 | phongred | googd morning |
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| 08:02.53 | phongred | help help help help help help |
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| 08:43.08 | phongred | hix |
| 08:53.21 | rob_w | phongred, are you alright ? |
| 08:55.31 | phongred | i'm here |
| 08:55.40 | phongred | hello Rob |
| 08:55.56 | rob_w | all ok , dude ?? |
| 08:55.58 | phongred | i have problem |
| 08:56.26 | phongred | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.53 | phongred | i want setup Linux with my PPC. |
| 08:57.06 | phongred | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:57.20 | rob_w | phongred, figure out the sectors you need and dont use + |
| 08:57.38 | phongred | yes |
| 08:58.04 | phongred | i cant add charactor + by hard keyboard of My phone |
| 08:58.38 | phongred | <rob_w> phongred, figure out the sectors you need and dont use + <=== don't use |
| 08:58.50 | phongred | ? |
| 08:58.55 | rob_w | right, i got that ,, enter the size of the partition by entering a absolute sector end |
| 08:59.11 | phongred | no need + |
| 08:59.17 | rob_w | so ? |
| 08:59.20 | phongred | u sure |
| 09:00.03 | rob_w | yes at fsdisk you first enter the start sector and then the end sector ( or "+XXM" ) if your to lazy to calculate |
| 09:00.27 | phongred | yes |
| 09:00.30 | rob_w | so now you need to calculate the sector .. or guess it accorind to the max sectors you have and the percentage of size you wanna reach |
| 09:00.34 | phongred | i think so |
| 09:01.04 | phongred | i cant fdisk because i cant chooose + charactor |
| 09:01.31 | rob_w | DUDE |
| 09:01.37 | rob_w | listen to me now ok !=?!= |
| 09:01.45 | phongred | okie thank |
| 09:01.46 | rob_w | YOU DONT NEED + |
| 09:01.50 | phongred | sorry |
| 09:01.50 | rob_w | OK ? |
| 09:01.58 | phongred | okie |
| 09:02.27 | rob_w | so go use fdisk .. and wen you get to the "define " the size / aka the end sector .,, just type a number according to the max sectors you have .. |
| 09:02.31 | rob_w | got that ? |
| 09:03.05 | phongred | okie |
| 09:03.10 | rob_w | Disk /dev/sda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes |
| 09:03.11 | rob_w | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders |
| 09:03.20 | rob_w | actually the cylinders is the number .. |
| 09:03.41 | rob_w | if i want to have 30GB partition i take half of 7296 as end cylinder .. |
| 09:03.46 | phongred | oh no |
| 09:04.18 | phongred | i using storage card 256mb |
| 09:07.17 | phongred | u can training to me setup linux with phone Blueangel WM2k5? |
| 09:07.26 | phongred | begin to end |
| 09:07.28 | phongred | lol |
| 09:07.30 | phongred | thanks |
| 09:08.51 | rob_w | he |
| 09:17.14 | phongred | lol |
| 09:18.49 | phongred | can u help me |
| 09:21.35 | phongred | bye bye |
| 09:22.09 | phongred | now we off time working! thank you. |
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| 09:45.46 | BabelO | hi |
| 09:46.44 | BabelO | cr2 : in qtopia there is support for keypadlight :) ( qkeypadlightaccessory.cpp ) need only to implement led driver |
| 09:50.27 | rob_w | nice |
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| 10:50.12 | goxboxlive | good morning or what ever |
| 10:51.52 | TripleDES | morning |
| 10:54.27 | pH5 | good morning |
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| 12:27.59 | cr2 | BabelO: but we have 2 or them. the similar problem is on the universal/hermes with 2 cams. |
| 12:38.20 | gxl|work | Have you started to look at the cams allready cr2? |
| 12:48.36 | kimuSan^ | has anyone had bluetooth up and running in linux on any of the devices? |
| 12:50.26 | gxl|work | kimuSan: Yes on the HTC Universal bluetooth is running |
| 12:51.03 | gxl|work | I have tried to get a bluetooth headset work, but still fighting against the connection. |
| 12:51.46 | gxl|work | But i have allready used a bluetooth GPS on it. GPSD is working, but qpegps is not. |
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| 13:05.08 | kimuSan^ | ok cool. HID is one of the easy ones, so there should be no problem getting that to work. |
| 13:06.37 | gxl|work | good, i have also tried out HID with Opie, but it didnt work, i guess there where some missing QWS export or something in Opie. |
| 13:06.50 | gxl|work | Maybe i should try it out with GPE later |
| 13:10.08 | BabelO | cr2 : you have two keypad light on universal ? like on BA, one for keyboard and other for phone button ? |
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| 13:16.38 | gxl|work | hi BabelO |
| 13:16.41 | gxl|work | we have |
| 13:17.29 | gxl|work | one for phone buttons and one for keyboard, one for flashlight |
| 13:17.59 | gxl|work | All in event2 |
| 13:18.52 | gxl|work | We have also vibration, but i guess also BA has it. Good to know while you building the phone app. |
| 13:24.27 | BabelO | gxl|work : if i understand how spacer are working in QT, i will send you app already compiled to see it with your screen size |
| 13:25.03 | BabelO | gxl|work can you try gnokki this evening when you have some time ? |
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| 13:46.19 | gxl|work | BabelO: Yues send mne whatever you want, i'll test it :-) |
| 13:46.38 | gxl|work | I have gnokii on my device, what do you want me to try? |
| 13:48.53 | BabelO | gxl|work : ok, i have call and network operator name working with a small windows like gui ( sorry cr2 for the sample), i m now trying to find if qtopia can monitor modem device or if i make a thread for this. |
| 13:50.02 | BabelO | gxl|work under gnokii you have to setup a gnokiirc file in /home/root.gnokiirc ... after try command like gnokii --identify with debug mode enabled ( debug = on ) |
| 13:50.17 | BabelO | sorry /home/root/.gnokiirc |
| 13:53.58 | gxl|work | ok. i'll try ehn i come home |
| 13:57.17 | BabelO | ok thanks |
| 13:59.01 | Kmarc | 1 |
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| 15:35.44 | logan | hello |
| 15:36.36 | logan | I have a magician phone qtek s100 |
| 15:38.29 | logan | an I would like to install magician-gpe-image with magician-zImage-2.6.20 |
| 15:39.27 | logan | I see there is a new patch for this version |
| 15:40.49 | logan | who I can apply the patch |
| 15:40.51 | logan | ? |
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| 15:46.08 | pH5 | hey logan. extract the tarball into the 2.6.20-rc4 source directory and apply the patches with "quilt push -a" |
| 15:46.18 | pH5 | btw, I'm currently in the progress of building a new angstrom image |
| 15:52.18 | logan | I don't have the 2.6.20-rc4 sources |
| 15:52.42 | logan | I have to download the 2.6.20-rc4 sources from kernel.org, isn't it? |
| 15:54.17 | pH5 | logan: correct. or you can download the 2.6.19 version from handhelds.org cvs (which has the magician patches). |
| 15:55.52 | logan | ok |
| 15:57.22 | logan | which you advise to me? |
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| 15:58.23 | pH5 | logan: if you compile your own kernel anyway, use 2.6.20-rc4. |
| 15:58.59 | pH5 | it has experimental support for wake-up from GSM, so the phone is nearly usable. |
| 15:59.23 | logan | ok thank you pH5 |
| 16:07.18 | logan | pH5: do you know where I can donwload the 2.6.20-rc4 source package |
| 16:07.27 | logan | ? |
| 16:07.30 | logan | I only have found the 2.6.20-rc4 patch |
| 16:08.38 | pH5 | logan: you have to download the 2.6.19 tarball + 2.6.20-rc4 patch |
| 16:08.59 | logan | ok |
| 16:09.35 | pH5 | I use git to download the latest sources. I found it is hard to understand in the beginning, but it is much faster. |
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| 18:06.16 | VisN | hi |
| 18:06.37 | pH5 | hi VisN |
| 18:07.42 | goxboxlive | hello |
| 18:10.03 | VisN | the kernel magician-zImage-2.6.20-rc4-20070108 cant found /dev/mmcblk0p2 to mount as root fs, but with magician-zImage-2.6.18-20060927 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 works fine |
| 18:10.39 | VisN | what the now name of two partition in the magician-zImage-2.6.20-rc4-2007010? |
| 18:10.47 | VisN | *new |
| 18:11.34 | VisN | I using http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/ |
| 18:11.48 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
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| 18:12.56 | psokolovsky | pH5, do you know that forked tslib config for 2.6 is now considered harmful? there's now nice default config which should suit all of them (sane ones; zaurus not counted, of course) |
| 18:13.22 | pH5 | VisN: it's still the same. you have to add "rootdelay=1" to your kernel command line in the haret configuration |
| 18:14.19 | pH5 | psokolovsky: yeah, hrw noticed this already. I had this in my local tree for a long time. I'll test with the default configuration and remove this script. |
| 18:14.28 | VisN | pH5, ok, thanks, I'll try it |
| 18:14.33 | psokolovsky | pH5, cool, thanks |
| 18:41.53 | VisN | pH5, with rootdelay=1 kernel works, but GUI dont |
| 18:42.07 | VisN | I using rootdelay=1 |
| 18:42.10 | VisN | I using magician-gpe-image-20060922.tar.bz2 |
| 18:43.07 | pH5 | VisN: did put the 2.6.20-rc4 modules into the root fs? |
| 18:43.20 | VisN | yes |
| 18:44.25 | VisN | I put modules from magician-modules-2.6.20-rc4-20070108.tar.bz2 to my sd card |
| 18:45.33 | pH5 | VisN: can you connect via usbnet? |
| 18:46.04 | VisN | kernel loads, GUI starts but I see only black screen with "X" and some time its blink white color |
| 18:46.40 | VisN | pH5, I never do it before |
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| 18:48.03 | pH5 | VisN: I have just built a new angstrom gpe image, but I need to test it and perhaps fix some things before uploading. |
| 18:48.17 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 18:48.23 | BabelO | re |
| 18:48.58 | goxboxlive | I have tried gnokii, but i get: |
| 18:49.00 | goxboxlive | root@htcuniversal:~$ gnokii --identify |
| 18:49.00 | goxboxlive | GNOKII Version 0.6.13 |
| 18:49.00 | goxboxlive | Orphaned line: port = /dev/ttyS0 |
| 18:49.00 | goxboxlive | Orphaned line: model = AT |
| 18:49.00 | goxboxlive | Orphaned line: initlength = default |
| 18:49.01 | goxboxlive | Orphaned line: connection = serial |
| 18:49.03 | goxboxlive | Orphaned line: bindir = /usr/bin/ |
| 18:49.05 | goxboxlive | Orphaned line: debug = on |
| 18:49.07 | goxboxlive | Couldn't open /home/root/.gnokiirc or /etc/gnokiirc |
| 18:49.32 | VisN | pH5, ok, I'll be waitin for your built a new angstrom gpe image |
| 18:49.34 | BabelO | where is your gnokiirc file ? |
| 18:49.49 | goxboxlive | I dont know why it says couldnt nor open, because it has listed up the content in the .gnokiirc file |
| 18:49.55 | goxboxlive | /home/root/.gnokiirc |
| 18:50.10 | pH5 | VisN: I just don't know what this old gpe image doesn't like about the new kernel. |
| 18:50.32 | goxboxlive | BabelO: I have also tried to change the rights on /dev/ttyS0 but it didnt help either. |
| 18:52.28 | cr2 | goxboxlive: run it with strace |
| 18:52.35 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:54.26 | goxboxlive | BabelO / cr2 http://pastebin.ca/311279 |
| 18:56.21 | cr2 | 3.5" with 160dpi. is it vga ? |
| 18:57.42 | goxboxlive | wich?, the iPhone |
| 18:58.10 | cr2 | yes. |
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| 18:59.06 | cr2 | if you'll buy one, we will port linux :D |
| 19:00.16 | pH5 | cr2: hx4700 is 200dpi, 4" 3:4 |
| 19:00.21 | VisN | pH5, you'll put new angstrom gpe image into userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/ ? |
| 19:01.12 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i don't know the problem :(if you change content of file it change value on screen ? |
| 19:01.55 | goxboxlive | I can try to delete the gnikiirc fiel and see what it says |
| 19:02.06 | goxboxlive | Did you edit the source before building it? |
| 19:03.38 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i edit source, but you should have some trace with current config |
| 19:04.13 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:06.21 | goxboxlive | What is the owner of /dev/ttySx for the phone? |
| 19:06.46 | pH5 | VisN: yes. either that, or I'll put a link there |
| 19:07.41 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i don 't know that, if you do this as root, no problem |
| 19:08.18 | goxboxlive | well it is with cu. With cu i have to change the owners right to uucp. |
| 19:08.31 | VisN | pH5, ok, thank you! |
| 19:19.57 | rob_w | goxboxlive, make urself the owner ;-) |
| 19:20.16 | goxboxlive | been there done that :-) |
| 19:21.00 | rob_w | heh i just finished a proposals for 2 killer tablet pc`s in the 3600 € ... |
| 19:21.29 | rob_w | poor people to buy this , as in 6 month they will have a immense cost loss ,, but the devices are a killer |
| 19:23.06 | Ralith | :P |
| 19:30.30 | cr2 | pH5: you are right. universal is 3.6" VGA, and it's certainly >200dpi |
| 19:31.55 | cr2 | goxbxolive: the owner of a serial device should be uucp.uucp |
| 19:32.21 | cr2 | it's an old unix tradition, and there is a lot of sense behind. |
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| 19:33.08 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:33.18 | cr2 | i see that we are switching to/from the headphone in the kernel. zaurus has a SW_* event for it. |
| 19:33.46 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:34.10 | goxboxlive | The ownership of ttyS0 didnt help gnokii either. |
| 19:34.13 | cr2 | maybe it's the way to go, but it's probably too early to talk about it. |
| 19:34.24 | cr2 | have you run with strace ? |
| 19:43.09 | kimuSan^ | damn. kinda hard to install a driver onto my trin when there's only a setup.exe and no cab files....especially when I only have linux computers |
| 19:43.11 | goxboxlive | yes |
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| 19:45.29 | cr2 | goxboxlive: what is the error on open("/home/root/.gnokiirc") ? |
| 19:49.19 | goxboxlive | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/311307 |
| 19:51.35 | cr2 | yes, you don't have /etc/gnokiirc, and it obviuosly wants both to be present |
| 19:52.02 | goxboxlive | done that now, didnt help |
| 19:52.11 | cr2 | sound/soc/codecs has an ak4535 driver. it's not so capable as ak4641, but we can adapt it... |
| 19:52.23 | cr2 | post the new strace |
| 19:52.53 | goxboxlive | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/311311 |
| 19:53.19 | cr2 | open("/etc/gnokiirc", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 19:53.36 | BabelO | goxboxlive: try with another chmod to your file |
| 19:53.50 | cr2 | BabelO: -EPERM |
| 19:54.00 | cr2 | he does not have this file. |
| 19:54.29 | goxboxlive | BabelO: I have also tried that |
| 19:54.35 | goxboxlive | now it 644 |
| 19:54.39 | goxboxlive | again |
| 19:54.53 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it does not matter. the kernel does not see this file. |
| 19:55.42 | cr2 | if you have a read permission, you can open it readonly. if you don't have a permission, you'll get the appropriate errno. |
| 19:56.03 | goxboxlive | ok, but gnokii find it right. Otherwise it wouldnt list all the content of the file right? |
| 19:56.14 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:57.08 | cr2 | gnokii does not find /etc/gnokiirc. or better: the kernel does not find /etc/gnokiirc |
| 19:58.19 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:58.51 | goxboxlive | have to reboot, the machine is so slooooow again. |
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| 20:02.34 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, Hi! we agreed on killing getkey from opie startup, right? |
| 20:03.01 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky> yes |
| 20:03.05 | psokolovsky | ok |
| 20:06.09 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, are you sure there's something wrong with *psplash* regarding opie boot. did you try to boot w/o psplash? |
| 20:06.51 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky It seems like it is a crash at opie start. Cr2 can confirm it |
| 20:07.08 | goxboxlive | Moving opie over to termoinal three solved the problem |
| 20:07.35 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, I din't see it crashing, just quiting. but vt change is stil needed, it seems, regardless for hrw says. |
| 20:07.59 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, I want to hear laternative solutions, not the first random one ;-) |
| 20:09.15 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky> Opie didnt crash, i have never said that. The shell (bash) where spamming the screen, so the prompt and the debug messages where whiping out Opie |
| 20:09.34 | psokolovsky | yep |
| 20:09.41 | goxboxlive | The other way i got it removed, where to restart opie, then it disapeard |
| 20:10.02 | goxboxlive | Another solution might be to let Opie start a little later than it does today. |
| 20:10.31 | goxboxlive | But anyway, whats the differents if it start sform terminal 2 or terminal 3?? |
| 20:11.06 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, that's the q we should answer. aer you sure there's no regressions due to that? |
| 20:11.07 | goxboxlive | The diffrrents is, i dont need to restart Opie if it starts at terminal 3 |
| 20:11.45 | psokolovsky | how do you restart it btw? |
| 20:11.45 | cr2 | "getkey" should be an opie program, that lets you to get out on a key/button event. |
| 20:11.52 | goxboxlive | I havent noticed anything. Opie is behaving at term-3 as it did on ter-2 |
| 20:11.58 | psokolovsky | cr2, feel free to make taht one ;-) |
| 20:12.14 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, now, why not on term1? |
| 20:12.21 | cr2 | psokolovsky: i'll better work on qtopia4 |
| 20:12.44 | cr2 | impatiently waiting for the phone programm by BabelO |
| 20:12.59 | psokolovsky | cr2, ok ;-) so getkey gets dropped ;-) |
| 20:13.09 | cr2 | and will certainly port zroadmap. |
| 20:13.22 | goxboxlive | cr2: I agree with you, i realy miss getkey, but anyway it's just to restart opie (if u have a working TS or keyboard) |
| 20:13.23 | cr2 | well, drop getkey and forget about it. |
| 20:13.28 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 20:13.45 | goxboxlive | cr2: just confirm the shine true shell in opie when it starts at terminal 2 |
| 20:14.12 | goxboxlive | And explain more techincal than i am able to |
| 20:14.18 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, pls tell me how you restart opie |
| 20:14.23 | cr2 | i know why the x server needs a vt, but why does opie need it ? |
| 20:14.49 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, well, I see that behavior, I just want to understand why we need whole 3 terms here |
| 20:15.08 | psokolovsky | cr2, buy the same reason - to not mix graphic and text consoles ;-) |
| 20:15.14 | psokolovsky | the q is why 3?? |
| 20:15.23 | cr2 | and the x server always asks for the first free vt |
| 20:15.35 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky Opie is started with defulat option, i havent done anything with it |
| 20:15.45 | cr2 | maybe qpe should do the same ? |
| 20:15.51 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, how do you *restart* it? |
| 20:16.02 | goxboxlive | restart applet ? |
| 20:16.05 | psokolovsky | cr2, it should do many things ;-) |
| 20:16.07 | cr2 | why is this parameter is needed is beyond my understanding. |
| 20:16.15 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, i.e. from within opie? |
| 20:16.26 | goxboxlive | or ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 20:16.29 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 20:16.43 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you suspend in opie ? |
| 20:16.46 | goxboxlive | no |
| 20:17.02 | cr2 | then it's worth a bug report. |
| 20:17.11 | cr2 | i don't understand it too. |
| 20:17.17 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, cr2: were you ever able to restart or stop via /etc/init.d/opie ? |
| 20:17.29 | cr2 | it's just system("apm --suspend") |
| 20:17.38 | psokolovsky | cr2, for me, opie suspended well (familiar opie) |
| 20:17.39 | cr2 | psokolovsky: yes. multiple times. |
| 20:17.52 | psokolovsky | and well, I trie dit on hx4700 too, of course (ansgtrom) |
| 20:17.53 | goxboxlive | psok: yes sometimes, but sometimes opie just freezes |
| 20:17.58 | cr2 | psokolovsky: is it in odevice_* ? |
| 20:18.02 | cr2 | hmm. i think it is. |
| 20:18.16 | psokolovsky | cr2, for me, init.d doesn't stop it ;-( |
| 20:18.18 | goxboxlive | And it also freeze sometimes with the restart applet |
| 20:18.39 | goxboxlive | Thats why i use ctrl+alt+backspace most of the times |
| 20:19.16 | cr2 | i usually login over usb and then start/stop opie this way, and strace the opie apps searching for the bugs. |
| 20:20.05 | goxboxlive | cr2: Yes, that seems to work more stable than using the device. |
| 20:20.25 | goxboxlive | When it freeze, it's just to start opie again and it works normaly again |
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| 20:24.22 | goxboxlive | But, actually, i not using Opie so often anymore. Mostly i use GPE (it's slow) and sometimes Qtopia |
| 20:26.57 | cr2 | once we will have a barebones phone app for qtopia, i'll move immediately. |
| 20:27.20 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you upload your qtopia image ? |
| 20:27.47 | cr2 | btw, you should not install the modules there. |
| 20:28.19 | goxboxlive | yes cr2: I am just completeing a image now. I'll make a tarball of the sd card |
| 20:28.20 | cr2 | psokolovsky: do we have a chance to add the mingwce and haret to OE ? |
| 20:28.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive: very good. |
| 20:29.13 | psokolovsky | cr2, I'd consider that very interesting myself. But we need to think in what way mingwce will be added... |
| 20:36.07 | goxboxlive | keyled is resuming :-) I have realy missed keyled |
| 20:39.18 | psokolovsky | cr2, goxboxlive : do you know how to enable mouse cursor in opie? ;-D |
| 20:39.58 | goxboxlive | i have tried it out before with HID, but it didnt work |
| 20:39.58 | cr2 | hmm. compile it with mouse support ? |
| 20:40.28 | cr2 | i think jornada720 should support it. |
| 20:40.36 | goxboxlive | cr2: you have to install libstdc6++ or what's the name before you start qtopie. Also install bluez-utils |
| 20:41.04 | psokolovsky | cr2, do you known just some conf setting for that? ;-) |
| 20:41.11 | goxboxlive | It is uploaded now, download it and let me know when you have finished dowmloading and i delete it |
| 20:41.19 | cr2 | goxboxlive: which program depends on stdc++, and why ? |
| 20:41.42 | cr2 | i thought qt is standalone ? |
| 20:41.52 | goxboxlive | I dont remember, start qtopa without it and check. |
| 20:41.54 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:45.22 | goxboxlive | I havent ried it though, so i dont know if it works |
| 20:45.32 | goxboxlive | s/ried/tried/ |
| 20:47.04 | goxboxlive | libstdc++6 is the correct name |
| 20:49.36 | goxboxlive | Also remember to run ts_calibrate before you attempt to start qtopia |
| 20:49.56 | goxboxlive | F |
| 20:50.15 | goxboxlive | btw, forget about bluez-utils, it's allready included in the bootstrap-image |
| 20:51.11 | cr2 | done. |
| 20:51.18 | goxboxlive | good |
| 20:51.20 | cr2 | why don't you include /etc/pointercal ? |
| 20:51.37 | cr2 | where is libstdc++ ipk ? |
| 20:52.03 | cr2 | hmm. it is still downloading. |
| 20:52.11 | goxboxlive | tc_calibrate is included |
| 20:52.28 | goxboxlive | to bad, i have deleted it. |
| 20:52.50 | cr2 | no, it's going :) |
| 20:52.52 | goxboxlive | libstdc++6 is in your oe repo |
| 20:53.03 | goxboxlive | ok |
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| 20:53.24 | cr2 | 70% |
| 20:53.57 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:54.00 | cr2 | 77% |
| 20:59.36 | goxboxlive | ha, keyboard is working |
| 21:00.49 | goxboxlive | it's a bit buggy, but it works. The buttons are not. |
| 21:11.18 | goxboxlive | cr2: did you get it or not? |
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| 21:35.20 | Hymie | http://cellphones.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/ <-- as someone else said, it is a nice piece of work |
| 21:35.35 | Hymie | but a shame, such a keyboard would be useless ... and, no UTMS :/ |
| 21:39.07 | pH5 | and a pretty low resolution screen if that 160dpi number is true |
| 21:47.07 | Hymie | well... I don't know, I find some of these screen to be overkill |
| 21:47.10 | kimuSan^ | http://www.apple.com/iphone/ <- more here |
| 21:47.25 | cr2 | Hymie: what cpu is there ? |
| 21:47.30 | kimuSan^ | looks nice and cool if it actually runs osx |
| 21:47.32 | Hymie | if you took a 640x480 PDA phone, then held the screen up to your monitor, and filled the monitor space with those screens... you'd have crazy resolution |
| 21:47.54 | Hymie | cr2: I don't think it says on the apple press release report.. Apple dudes don't care probably ;) |
| 21:48.21 | cr2 | don't care about apple dudes. care about linux port :) |
| 21:48.26 | kimuSan^ | the multitouch screen is waaay cool though |
| 21:48.49 | Hymie | arg, have to sign up to "learn more", and I'm betting that's not helpful "learning more" |
| 21:49.21 | kimuSan^ | This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. HEH |
| 21:49.33 | cr2 | No stylus. Patented! |
| 21:49.58 | cr2 | hm. a route planner will look really funny on such device. |
| 21:50.04 | Hymie | hmm |
| 21:50.08 | Hymie | 802.11n |
| 21:50.10 | Hymie | that's interested |
| 21:50.15 | Hymie | I'm prefer UTMS over that, but still |
| 21:50.23 | Hymie | oh, wait |
| 21:50.25 | Hymie | that's the TV |
| 21:50.26 | Hymie | hehe |
| 21:50.28 | goxboxlive | its not a vga phone, its 320 by 480 at 160 ppi |
| 21:50.38 | goxboxlive | http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/specs.html |
| 21:50.59 | kimuSan^ | it nice and slim |
| 21:51.14 | cr2 | nonsquare pixels ? |
| 21:51.17 | goxboxlive | yes, it looks nice |
| 21:51.40 | Hymie | why everything BUT UTMS! |
| 21:52.08 | Hymie | I'd almost consider carrying a bluetooth mini keyboard in my pocket, if this had UTMS + Linux |
| 21:52.39 | cr2 | if it's pxa27x then linux should be easy to port. |
| 21:52.51 | cr2 | bt and wifi. |
| 21:53.15 | goxboxlive | when will it be shipped? |
| 21:53.36 | kimuSan^ | data transfer is way to expensive here |
| 21:53.51 | cr2 | i wish somebody has posted the motherboard screenshots. or the rom image. |
| 21:53.54 | kimuSan^ | goxboxlive: now in the us, later this year europe, 2008 asia |
| 21:54.11 | Hymie | cr2: they'd have to pry a unit from Steve Jobs' hands probably and smash it, to get such shots ;) |
| 21:54.18 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 21:54.58 | kimuSan^ | as far as I remember. look at macroumers |
| 21:55.04 | kimuSan^ | macrumors |
| 21:55.25 | psokolovsky | woo-hoo, that worked, now opie can be used in qemu ;-) |
| 21:55.27 | goxboxlive | and what will it cost? |
| 21:55.35 | Hymie | pple has selected Cingular as its sole network provider for the phone. The device will become available in June from both Cingular and Apple stores at prices of $499 for the 4GB version and $599 for its 8GB sibling. Both prices are assuming two-year Cingular contracts. |
| 21:55.38 | kimuSan^ | 499 and 599 |
| 21:55.43 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:55.48 | kimuSan^ | 2 year contract |
| 21:55.55 | goxboxlive | wow |
| 21:56.06 | Hymie | maybe 800 no contract |
| 21:56.32 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 21:57.10 | Hymie | #18. Posted at 03:14 PM on Jan 9th 2007 Edit Reply |
| 21:57.10 | Hymie | totoro |
| 21:57.10 | Hymie | I really want to know what CPU is in there... |
| 21:57.12 | Hymie | hehe |
| 21:57.14 | Hymie | so do we ;) |
| 21:57.50 | Hymie | http://www.apple.com/iphone/phone/ |
| 21:58.53 | Hymie | it is a nice interface |
| 21:59.27 | goxboxlive | ~change 499 usd to nkr |
| 22:00.11 | Hymie | hmmmmmmmm |
| 22:00.18 | goxboxlive | ~change 499 usd to nok |
| 22:00.21 | Hymie | the way they show the keyboard |
| 22:00.35 | Hymie | it looks usable from a two thumb perspective |
| 22:00.44 | Hymie | but, still.. blasted thing takes 1/2 the screen |
| 22:00.53 | Hymie | crappy for emergency remote ssh usage |
| 22:00.54 | Hymie | also |
| 22:01.10 | Hymie | why does the hermes have the '.' map to '0' |
| 22:01.28 | Hymie | ever try to enter an IP address, a number with change in it, anything? |
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| 22:13.44 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, still online? |
| 22:13.52 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 22:15.37 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, so, let's have it settled: for me, both TS and keys in OPIE work without any expicit specification of QWS_MOUSE_PROTO and QWS_KEYBOARD envvars. |
| 22:16.09 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, if it works for me, it must work for any other of our (hh.org) 2.6 devices. So, I'd like to ask you to test such config. |
| 22:16.52 | goxboxlive | I can test it, i know that the keyboard isent working without it. But the TS i am not sure. |
| 22:17.35 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, please test. h4000 has to keys event devices (for asic3 and pxa keys) and works perfect. |
| 22:19.54 | goxboxlive | ok, booting now |
| 22:22.03 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, extra confirmation: h4000 with fresh opie-angstrom build resumes just fine. |
| 22:23.34 | TripleDES | hmm you guys compile opie-angstrom from oe? I thought angstrom just supports gpe... |
| 22:23.42 | goxboxlive | It didnt work. I didnt try the keyboard, but TS where dead, even though /dev/input/touchscreen0 where listed at boot ( QinputDevice) |
| 22:23.56 | goxboxlive | yes, but opie builds |
| 22:24.08 | TripleDES | ic :) |
| 22:24.49 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, impossible ;-I |
| 22:25.15 | goxboxlive | no it's not, it just happend |
| 22:26.07 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, well, either way, setting those vars in /etc/init.d/opie, and thus having machine overrides for that file in opie-taskbar not suitable. Those vars should be set elsewhere. |
| 22:26.53 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:27.36 | goxboxlive | Well it's has been this way as long as i can remeber in Opie. But it might just be some patching in qte-mt we miss |
| 22:28.53 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, ok, I'll have a look at that |
| 22:34.09 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:35.48 | goxboxlive | suspend doesnt work for me, but i am not running latest opie image. I builded one today. Gonna try it out tomorrow. But, now it's bedtime. g'noght |
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