irclog2html for #htc-linux on 20070102

00:00.33Kevin2tudenbart: I'm not sure what the status of hermes is.  You may need to read the chip docs and start exploring the phone memory stuff.  (To see how things change.)
00:00.59Kevin2Alternatively, you might want to try booting the kernel and/or finding out why it isn't booting.
00:01.00tudenbartis there a howto?
00:01.17tudenbartwhich one should i try?
00:01.44tudenbartwhich gcc should i use to compile it?
00:02.04Kevin2tudenbart:  No howto.  You may need to contact the other Hermes developers and see how far along they are and what kinds of things you can do to assist.
00:04.00cr2i have a hermes. we need to disable the "serial" dots at boot first.
00:04.03tudenbarthm, if the hermes suspends, haret drops the connection?
00:05.30tudenbartis there a way to disable the one tier security model without the microsoft security manager?
00:06.14cr2why do you care ?
00:06.32tudenbartdunno, so it stops asking at starting haret?
00:10.07cr2it's a minor problem.
00:16.21cr2Kevin2: yes, it hangs on 'help'. but i can kill the program.
00:17.42Kevin2cr2: Wow.  Odd.  You can login, get the banner, but not run commands?
00:17.55Kevin2What does haretlog.txt have in it?
00:19.02cr2i'll look.
00:20.53dothebartwhere do i get the kernel?
00:23.42cr2Kevin2: nothing unusual. why can 'help' hang ?
00:24.25cr2dothebart: try to compile yourself. but we need to disable the serial output first, as i have said.
00:24.34dothebartgot it.
00:42.46Kevin2cr2: Try putting "help" in startup.txt.  And then check haretlog.txt.
00:43.01Kevin2I wonder if it is a command dispatch issue or a network issue.
00:44.52cr2ok.
00:46.15cr2executing startup.txt
00:46.28cr2and the gui does not start.
00:47.16cr2one more wish: the per-machine startup.txt like 'startup-855.txt' for universal.
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00:51.14Kevin2Wow, command dispatch fails?  I'm probably using some innocuous function (eg, strcpy) that isn't supported.
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00:51.29Kevin2cr2: Has mainline haret (since I've worked on it) ever been able to handle commands on jornada?
00:51.30cr2don't know. probably not. it is still strange.
00:51.31Kevin2cr2: Can you confirm you can login via telnet and see the welcome banner?
00:54.27cr2yes.
00:55.35cr2that's why i'm surprised. much more complex things are just working.
00:58.44Kevin2cr2: Can you try an invalid command (eg, "XXX") instead?
00:58.52cr2ok.
00:59.25cr2the same problem.
00:59.40Kevin2Network or script?
01:01.33cr2network
01:01.48cr2will try script
01:03.05cr2the same result. the gui does not start.
01:06.04Kevin2cr2: Can you compile mainline haret?  What we need to do is add in a bunch of output messages in scrInterpret to see where it is failing.
01:06.49dothebartuart to use for low level messages
01:06.56dothebartis it that, what you're talking about?
01:07.01Kevin2I can't see anything that would make this fail - the code is really straight forward.  The only windows call I see is "isspace" which should be available.
01:11.00cr2Kevin2: today it's too late, i'll try to compile cegcc tomorrow.
01:11.59cr2dothebart: exactly the opposite. we need to completely disable the output to uart.
01:12.29dothebartyep, that was what i was trying to ask.
01:14.42cr2good night.
01:19.05Kevin2Good night
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01:27.06dothebartarch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.c:1: error: invalid ABI option: -mabi=aapcs-linux
01:27.06dothebartmake[1]: *** [arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.s] Error 1
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02:59.37lkcli finally got a sound to play on the blueangel, from cold.
03:00.14lkcli.e. _not_ from having happened to have been playing sound from wince when haret was running.
03:00.26lkclas usual with these bloody things it's very simple.
03:00.34lkcli2cset 0x0 0x18 0x13 0x08 w
03:00.47lkclbut you have to do that WHILE the sound is actually playing.
03:01.22lkclit's the mute/unmute bit (the 4 of 0x0048) which you set to zero by setting the 0x13 register to 0x0008
03:01.31lkcland that 'unmutes' the speaker.
03:01.55lkcltwo xxxxing years.
03:03.37lkclxxxxing xxxxing xxxxity xxxx! :)
03:12.54lkclalso there's i2cset 0x0 0x18 0x14 0x4000 w required
03:13.03lkclbecause bit 0x8000 means 'silence'
03:13.09lkclAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
03:27.43lkclok it's a start.
03:27.54lkclnight folks
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03:59.55DeadlyNinjaim going to get a GPS for a blueangel, any thing i should know for linux compatibilitiy?
04:00.52RalithDeadlyNinja, atm everyone's still focusing on getting linux working for the onboard hardware :P
04:01.01Ralithmaybe look for something that def. has linux drivers?
04:01.06Ralithgoogle's yer friend there
04:02.17DeadlyNinjais there anything a kernel newb could help work on? i consider myself a C/C++ expert, but never dabbled with the kernel. im getting a sx66 in a few days and want to use linux with it
04:11.43RalithI think all the devs went to bed
04:13.22DeadlyNinjathey in eu?
04:51.54oppizKevin2?
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12:15.08goxboxlivecr2: Updated the universal status and bugs list: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus  http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalBugs
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13:37.31goxboxlivecr2: Do we have any devices running this cpu? : CPU:32bit Marvell PXA310
13:37.50goxboxlivewill we be able to port?
13:39.57cr2goxboxlive: it's pxa27x + some video codec. it will be easy to search/boot.
13:40.14goxboxlivegood
13:40.17cr2s/search/research/
13:41.01cr2intel sold pxa27x to marvell
13:41.05goxboxliveThen i think my next device will be the HTC X7500 (HTC Athena) http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=687
13:41.09goxboxlivei know
13:41.58cr25" vs 3.6"
13:42.40goxboxliveright
13:42.45goxboxliveand gps included
13:42.46cr240-chord melody
13:42.49cr2hahaha
13:43.01cr2USB 2.0 host
13:43.20cr2hmm. is it on cpu ?
13:43.38cr2SDIO, miniSD
13:43.50cr2both ? like on beetles ?
13:44.16cr2802.11b
13:44.21goxboxliveand it has: Graphical Controller:ATI Imageon 2282
13:44.22cr2no 'g' good
13:44.34cr2yes, like on hermes
13:44.39goxboxliveok
13:44.52cr2CMOS sensor, 2.8MP
13:44.55cr2hohoho
13:45.02goxboxliveand 8GB hardisk :-*)
13:45.12cr2:D
13:45.39cr2where did you read about ati ?
13:46.05goxboxliveBUt since it has BT 2.0 then it is not same BT chip as universal?
13:46.15goxboxliveGraphical Subsystem
13:46.46cr2i think it's the same chip with different firmware
13:47.13cr2it's all dirty tricks by TI.
13:47.24goxboxliveok
13:47.54goxboxliveThe keyboard is detatacheable
13:48.20cr2BabelOued said he uses some modified firmware (supposedly 2.0 for BRF6150) on his BA with the old BFR6100 chipset!
13:49.06cr2so i guess the hw differences are minimal.
13:49.22goxboxliveright
13:49.37goxboxliveBut i guess it will be a expenisive device
13:50.14cr2yeah. and big.
13:50.39cr2detachable keyboard is very easy to break. imho it's a dumb idea.
13:51.01goxboxlivenot so much bigger than universa, and it will be thinner
13:51.37cr2even more thermal stress.
13:51.47goxboxlive:-)
13:52.12cr2the dpi is not so nice as on the universal.
13:52.46cr2RAM capacity:   64MB
13:52.57cr2micro$oft makes me sick.
13:53.02goxboxlive:-)
13:53.48goxboxliveBUt even thouh i think it will be faster because of the graphic controller
13:56.13cr2yes.
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14:07.18goxboxliveThere is some nice pics of it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?threadid=286884
14:15.14goxboxlivehttp://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=687&id2=312
14:16.17cr297 vs. 81 width. it's a lot
14:16.53cr2i doubt you can hold it in the hand.
14:17.23cr2and 345 gramms
14:18.38cr2it's still bearable. but the detachable keyboard... it's too fragile.
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14:31.12goxboxlivei c
14:37.16goxboxlivehmm i didnt know that we dont need any default.txt for Haret anymore. So all that is needed is a empty startup-855.txt
14:40.43goxboxliveno, forget it
14:41.06cr2is the rootdelay already built-in ?
14:41.19goxboxlivei didnt get it working
14:41.24cr2good idea, i should compile the ceggc.
14:42.26cr2i have read the comments at xda-dev. we really need to simplify the boot.
14:43.35goxboxliveyes it should only be to tap [run] wothout and startup.txt file
14:44.26goxboxliveBut, the issue with it is that some one use a swap file and other dont. and as i do, i use part1 for vfat, part2 for swap and part3 for opie and part4 for gpe
14:44.51cr2yes, and hide the debug window by default.
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15:41.09lkclallo darlins
15:41.53pH5hey lkcl
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15:57.53babel_workhi
16:01.23babel_workgood news lkcl :) with have some music soon when i understand how compiling helix cleanly :)
16:02.48cr2babel_work: can you compile qtopia cleanly ?
16:03.11cr2lkcl: patches, patches, patches :)
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16:07.09babel_workcr2 : i have started to build qtopia cleanly,  with a device htcphone and precreate some plugin for autodetect keyboard from /proc
16:07.33babel_workbut i have strange screen flashing, maybe the theme used
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16:15.25samoht_hi
16:15.52samoht_how can i install patch packager from opie console trhought ssh?
16:16.44samoht_there is no package that is called patch, but i have to installa e patch for the lcd display on my blueangel
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17:24.38goxboxlivewell i found it, it's bar
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18:03.37cr2goxboxlive: why oe still compiles linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.18-hh1-r0 ?
18:06.18Kevin2Hi
18:16.37cr2Kevin2: hi. i get some symbol versioning warning while compiling cegcc .
18:17.00cr2btw, will they ever submit the patches to the main gcc ?
18:17.26Kevin2cr2: I think that is their goal.
18:17.40Kevin2What version are you using?  I haven't done an update in a while.
18:18.00cr2latest svn.
18:18.32cr2can't say which one, i'm rebuilding the whole tree now.
18:19.29cr2committed-rev="864"
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18:20.28cr2failed.
18:20.32cr2In file included from /cluster/oleg/XANADUX/haret/cegcc/src/w32api/include/windef.h:265,
18:20.33cr2<PROTECTED>
18:20.33cr2<PROTECTED>
18:20.33cr2/cluster/oleg/XANADUX/haret/cegcc/src/w32api/include/winnt.h:3908: error: conflicting types for ‘size_t’
18:20.33cr2/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/include/stddef.h:214: error: previous declaration of ‘size_t’ was here
18:20.35cr2In file included from /cluster/oleg/XANADUX/haret/cegcc/src/gdb/gdb/win32-nat.c:83:
18:21.08cr2size_t redefined ?
18:21.56cr2and why is it using the host headers ?
18:22.51Kevin2It's failing on gdb build -- the compiler should be okay.
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18:23.01Kevin2look in the install directory.
18:23.14Kevin2(Gdb fails because you're on a 64bit box - I get the same error.)
18:23.44cr2ok. but it's a build system bug, not the 64bit bug.
18:24.33cr2yes. the tools are built.
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18:24.54Kevin2Yeah, they've been working on a fix.  I'm not sure how I would use gdb anyway, so I haven't thought about it much.
18:27.31cr2hmm.
18:27.36cr2<PROTECTED>
18:27.36cr2include/output.h:25: warning: 'InitProgress' initialized and declared 'extern'
18:27.36cr2include/output.h:25: error: 'uint' was not declared in this scope
18:27.36cr2include/output.h:26: warning: 'SetProgress' initialized and declared 'extern'
18:27.37cr2include/output.h:26: error: 'uint' was not declared in this scope
18:28.06cr2seems i need to cleanup my tree.
18:29.21cr2ok. compiles now.
18:29.30cr2too userfriendly :)
18:30.32cr2foodtime.
18:30.43BabelOcr2: good diner :)
18:30.58goxboxlivehi BabelO
18:31.04BabelOhi goxboxlive
18:31.11goxboxlivewhat's up, is your Qtopia image running?
18:31.37goxboxliveAre you making it so it will take the keymap like GPE is?
18:31.57BabelOi ve cleanup all sharp specific device and add helix and plug directory for button and keyboard
18:32.32BabelOi don t now for keymap, i see that some other device like zaurus use kernelkeymap plugin
18:32.40goxboxlivegood, is it compiling and runnig?
18:32.46BabelObut they use /dev/tty0
18:32.57goxboxliveYes, i know they do
18:33.45BabelOi m compiling again with latest svn and a clean try.... waiting 1 hour and half now :(
18:33.59goxboxliveBut couldnt we just change /dev/tty0 to what we use?
18:34.00goxboxliveok
18:34.16BabelOcan we use same /dev/tty0 or /dev/input/eventx is better ?.
18:34.18goxboxliveYes it takes a lot of time
18:34.37BabelOi use make -j 2 with my athlon xp1800 :(
18:34.44goxboxliveOn the Universal we use /dev/input/event3
18:35.19goxboxliveBut as TS is been handling, udev makes a rule and creates a symlink to TS from /dev/inout/Touchscreen0
18:35.29BabelOi try to make a cat /proc/input/devices and parse it to find key and ts
18:37.33BabelOand i ve tried bluetooth, it is ok, better than in opie
18:39.22goxboxliveBluetooth, great.
18:42.24goxboxliveBabelO: You know that just TS and Keyboad can be compiled seperate from the rest of Qtopia, so you dont have to wait for allmost 2 hours again?
18:42.56BabelOyes i know..
18:45.06goxboxlivegood
18:45.52BabelOi use shadow build :)
18:46.20goxboxliveyes i saw that lpotter had made a howto, what's the purpose of using it?
18:47.14BabelOyou can buildin multiple other tree... Usefull for multiple device or to have a clean svn tree
18:47.38goxboxliveahh, yes that's right, a clean svn tree.
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19:00.05goxboxliveBabelO: When are you going to mail me your device tree? :-D
19:02.37BabelOwhen build is ok i send it to you :)
19:02.58BabelOah device tree ? already compiled qtopia ?
19:03.05BabelOor htcphone directory ?
19:16.10goxboxlivehtcphonedirectory so i can see what you have done. (look and learn)
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19:20.06oppizhttp://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/451
19:20.09oppizhelp?
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19:54.14cr2BabelO: what is helix ?
19:54.41BabelOcr2: helix is the replacement for opiemediaplayer, and a good replacement
19:55.01BabelObut not usefull at the moement
19:55.01cr2mplayer ?
19:55.24BabelOhttps://helixcommunity.org/
19:56.34elliswayhelix is the opensource ver of realplayer realserver realencoder/producer etc etc
19:57.13cr2ok, but a streaming server on a phone ??
19:57.28elliswayna probably just the client or the encoder
19:57.40BabelOcr2: using for a wifi webcam :) :)
19:57.58cr2sounds good.
19:58.16cr2btw, do you have a link for opie2 svn ?
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19:59.06BabelOsvn checkout svn://projects.linuxtogo.org/svn/opie
19:59.14cr2thanks.
19:59.23BabelOthis one work, http link ask password :(
20:01.10cr2qtmail, does it support ssl ? spop3 ?
20:01.23BabelOssl yes
20:01.27goxboxlivecr2: Are there any way to change refresh rate on the universal when running?
20:02.04cr2goxboxlive: you mean the lccr4 ?
20:02.04goxboxlive|gpeyes
20:02.05cr2devmem2 ;)
20:02.37cr2write 0x80000000 to lccr4.
20:05.50goxboxliveI also noticing that the the keybaord has a delay after resume, have you noticed that?
20:06.50cr2didn't use the universal too much recently.
20:06.58goxboxliveAnd when i tru to write lethers in caption it just woulndt type the lether, have to repeat a lot.
20:07.09goxboxlives/tru/try/
20:07.26cr2BabelO: what is the compile command ?
20:07.41cr2goxboxlive: Kevin2 is the keyboard driver author :)
20:07.53goxboxliveok
20:08.38BabelOcompile command : configure -device zaurusclamshell
20:08.57BabelObut before edit device/zaurusclamshell to specify your tslib source and path
20:09.20BabelOsorry device/zaurusclamshell/configure
20:09.34cr2devices/s3c24a0
20:09.43cr2hermes :)
20:10.02cr2my tslib is from oe.
20:10.18cr2cd device/zaurusclamshell ?
20:10.29BabelOi use a fake tree with tslib.h and libtslib.so from angstrom opie image
20:10.49cr2btw, why zaurus ? it does not have anything phone-related
20:11.24BabelObecause it have tslib, some mixer gui code and use kernelkeymap
20:11.42cr2ok.
20:12.22BabelOlook at devices/zaurusclamshell/src/mixer
20:12.26BabelOit is for you :)
20:13.02cr2ok :)
20:13.06cr2-no-sxe -no-drm -no-ssl ?
20:13.19BabelOuse only ssl
20:13.21cr2no-drm is obvious
20:13.26cr2what is sxe ?
20:13.33BabelOother sxe is for single exec and drm beurk !
20:13.52cr2doesn't tell me anything :)
20:14.07cr2"-depths 8,16,32"
20:14.12cr2we have only 16 ?
20:14.33BabelOyes i think, i don t now for your universal ?
20:15.05cr2it's the same for all. i don't know any 32bit depth PDA
20:15.11cr2-qt-kbd-sl5000 ?
20:15.23cr2it's a bizarre keyboard / layout.
20:15.35BabelOi remove it , don t understand where is it
20:16.01cr2ok.
20:16.05cr2-xplatform sharp
20:16.12cr2does it have some effect ?
20:16.48BabelOadd a -I and -L line thaht point to same directory as other
20:17.08BabelOyou can use arm intead off this
20:17.28BabelOit use mkspec directory
20:17.56cr2ok.
20:18.26cr2export TEAMBUILDER_CC_VERSION='arm-linux-*:3.4.1;3.3.5'
20:18.34cr2do i need to change that ?
20:18.53BabelOno there is arm-linux-*
20:20.20cr2-prefix /media/hdd3/Qtopia
20:20.27BabelOno
20:20.44cr2<PROTECTED>
20:20.48cr2-sound-system oss
20:20.49BabelOno it is /opt/Qtopia, where is final install
20:21.00cr2can i use alsa here ?
20:21.44BabelOis you have alsa header file in your directory where you specify -I/usr/local/arm/include or -extra-qtopiacore "-I...."
20:22.13BabelOi don't found correct header file for alsa
20:22.28cr2i have full oe in ~/stuff
20:22.53BabelOgood :) so your include directory is full :)
20:23.49BabelO-I/usr/local/arm/include -extra-qtopiacore-config "-I/usr/local/arm/include" and same for -L in this file
20:23.56BabelOfor bluetooth and dbus same
20:24.20BabelO-bluetooth-dbus -dbuspath /home/fcr/armlinux/opie/usr
20:24.41BabelOopie/usr is usr directory of gpe angstrom image
20:24.53BabelObecause it have libdbus-1.0.so in it
20:26.01BabelO-bluetooth -dbus -dbuspath /home/fcr/armlinux/opie/usr
20:29.43BabelOsorry for the name but i merge the two image in one
20:33.50cr2ok.
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21:08.31kimuSan^Hi
21:10.35kimuSan^anyone working on getting linux on the Trinity?
21:12.24BabelOkimuSan^: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux
21:12.54BabelOi don t think if there is no information here
21:13.17BabelOit is the one with builtin gps ?
21:15.47kimuSan^well thats the P3300, this is the P3600
21:16.25kimuSan^it is supposed to have GPS (at least GPSone) but it is disabled until a new ROM from HTC has arrived
21:23.00kimuSan^it should be quite similar to the Hermes
21:23.49BabelOyes the same without keyboard :) and in february with a gps builtin
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21:32.01zippohey
21:34.11kimuSan^BabelO: yes
21:34.14kimuSan^hi zippo
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21:35.45zippodoes the ACX driver use special
21:38.24zippodoes the ACX driver use special variant that defines another branch for memory based I/O access IS_PCI/IS_USB/IS_MEM ????
21:40.31zippoKeven2?
22:03.55kimuSan^does anyone know the status of how far they have come with linux on the Hermes. Is there a kernel ready (haret or not)
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