00:00.33 | Kevin2 | tudenbart: I'm not sure what the status of hermes is. You may need to read the chip docs and start exploring the phone memory stuff. (To see how things change.) |
00:00.59 | Kevin2 | Alternatively, you might want to try booting the kernel and/or finding out why it isn't booting. |
00:01.00 | tudenbart | is there a howto? |
00:01.17 | tudenbart | which one should i try? |
00:01.44 | tudenbart | which gcc should i use to compile it? |
00:02.04 | Kevin2 | tudenbart: No howto. You may need to contact the other Hermes developers and see how far along they are and what kinds of things you can do to assist. |
00:04.00 | cr2 | i have a hermes. we need to disable the "serial" dots at boot first. |
00:04.03 | tudenbart | hm, if the hermes suspends, haret drops the connection? |
00:05.30 | tudenbart | is there a way to disable the one tier security model without the microsoft security manager? |
00:06.14 | cr2 | why do you care ? |
00:06.32 | tudenbart | dunno, so it stops asking at starting haret? |
00:10.07 | cr2 | it's a minor problem. |
00:16.21 | cr2 | Kevin2: yes, it hangs on 'help'. but i can kill the program. |
00:17.42 | Kevin2 | cr2: Wow. Odd. You can login, get the banner, but not run commands? |
00:17.55 | Kevin2 | What does haretlog.txt have in it? |
00:19.02 | cr2 | i'll look. |
00:20.53 | dothebart | where do i get the kernel? |
00:23.42 | cr2 | Kevin2: nothing unusual. why can 'help' hang ? |
00:24.25 | cr2 | dothebart: try to compile yourself. but we need to disable the serial output first, as i have said. |
00:24.34 | dothebart | got it. |
00:42.46 | Kevin2 | cr2: Try putting "help" in startup.txt. And then check haretlog.txt. |
00:43.01 | Kevin2 | I wonder if it is a command dispatch issue or a network issue. |
00:44.52 | cr2 | ok. |
00:46.15 | cr2 | executing startup.txt |
00:46.28 | cr2 | and the gui does not start. |
00:47.16 | cr2 | one more wish: the per-machine startup.txt like 'startup-855.txt' for universal. |
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00:51.14 | Kevin2 | Wow, command dispatch fails? I'm probably using some innocuous function (eg, strcpy) that isn't supported. |
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00:51.29 | Kevin2 | cr2: Has mainline haret (since I've worked on it) ever been able to handle commands on jornada? |
00:51.30 | cr2 | don't know. probably not. it is still strange. |
00:51.31 | Kevin2 | cr2: Can you confirm you can login via telnet and see the welcome banner? |
00:54.27 | cr2 | yes. |
00:55.35 | cr2 | that's why i'm surprised. much more complex things are just working. |
00:58.44 | Kevin2 | cr2: Can you try an invalid command (eg, "XXX") instead? |
00:58.52 | cr2 | ok. |
00:59.25 | cr2 | the same problem. |
00:59.40 | Kevin2 | Network or script? |
01:01.33 | cr2 | network |
01:01.48 | cr2 | will try script |
01:03.05 | cr2 | the same result. the gui does not start. |
01:06.04 | Kevin2 | cr2: Can you compile mainline haret? What we need to do is add in a bunch of output messages in scrInterpret to see where it is failing. |
01:06.49 | dothebart | uart to use for low level messages |
01:06.56 | dothebart | is it that, what you're talking about? |
01:07.01 | Kevin2 | I can't see anything that would make this fail - the code is really straight forward. The only windows call I see is "isspace" which should be available. |
01:11.00 | cr2 | Kevin2: today it's too late, i'll try to compile cegcc tomorrow. |
01:11.59 | cr2 | dothebart: exactly the opposite. we need to completely disable the output to uart. |
01:12.29 | dothebart | yep, that was what i was trying to ask. |
01:14.42 | cr2 | good night. |
01:19.05 | Kevin2 | Good night |
01:27.06 | dothebart | <PROTECTED> |
01:27.06 | dothebart | arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.c:1: error: invalid ABI option: -mabi=aapcs-linux |
01:27.06 | dothebart | make[1]: *** [arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.s] Error 1 |
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02:59.37 | lkcl | i finally got a sound to play on the blueangel, from cold. |
03:00.14 | lkcl | i.e. _not_ from having happened to have been playing sound from wince when haret was running. |
03:00.26 | lkcl | as usual with these bloody things it's very simple. |
03:00.34 | lkcl | i2cset 0x0 0x18 0x13 0x08 w |
03:00.47 | lkcl | but you have to do that WHILE the sound is actually playing. |
03:01.22 | lkcl | it's the mute/unmute bit (the 4 of 0x0048) which you set to zero by setting the 0x13 register to 0x0008 |
03:01.31 | lkcl | and that 'unmutes' the speaker. |
03:01.55 | lkcl | two xxxxing years. |
03:03.37 | lkcl | xxxxing xxxxing xxxxity xxxx! :) |
03:12.54 | lkcl | also there's i2cset 0x0 0x18 0x14 0x4000 w required |
03:13.03 | lkcl | because bit 0x8000 means 'silence' |
03:13.09 | lkcl | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! |
03:27.43 | lkcl | ok it's a start. |
03:27.54 | lkcl | night folks |
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03:59.55 | DeadlyNinja | im going to get a GPS for a blueangel, any thing i should know for linux compatibilitiy? |
04:00.52 | Ralith | DeadlyNinja, atm everyone's still focusing on getting linux working for the onboard hardware :P |
04:01.01 | Ralith | maybe look for something that def. has linux drivers? |
04:01.06 | Ralith | google's yer friend there |
04:02.17 | DeadlyNinja | is there anything a kernel newb could help work on? i consider myself a C/C++ expert, but never dabbled with the kernel. im getting a sx66 in a few days and want to use linux with it |
04:11.43 | Ralith | I think all the devs went to bed |
04:13.22 | DeadlyNinja | they in eu? |
04:51.54 | oppiz | Kevin2? |
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12:15.08 | goxboxlive | cr2: Updated the universal status and bugs list: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalBugs |
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13:37.31 | goxboxlive | cr2: Do we have any devices running this cpu? : CPU:32bit Marvell PXA310 |
13:37.50 | goxboxlive | will we be able to port? |
13:39.57 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it's pxa27x + some video codec. it will be easy to search/boot. |
13:40.14 | goxboxlive | good |
13:40.17 | cr2 | s/search/research/ |
13:41.01 | cr2 | intel sold pxa27x to marvell |
13:41.05 | goxboxlive | Then i think my next device will be the HTC X7500 (HTC Athena) http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=687 |
13:41.09 | goxboxlive | i know |
13:41.58 | cr2 | 5" vs 3.6" |
13:42.40 | goxboxlive | right |
13:42.45 | goxboxlive | and gps included |
13:42.46 | cr2 | 40-chord melody |
13:42.49 | cr2 | hahaha |
13:43.01 | cr2 | USB 2.0 host |
13:43.20 | cr2 | hmm. is it on cpu ? |
13:43.38 | cr2 | SDIO, miniSD |
13:43.50 | cr2 | both ? like on beetles ? |
13:44.16 | cr2 | 802.11b |
13:44.21 | goxboxlive | and it has: Graphical Controller:ATI Imageon 2282 |
13:44.22 | cr2 | no 'g' good |
13:44.34 | cr2 | yes, like on hermes |
13:44.39 | goxboxlive | ok |
13:44.52 | cr2 | CMOS sensor, 2.8MP |
13:44.55 | cr2 | hohoho |
13:45.02 | goxboxlive | and 8GB hardisk :-*) |
13:45.12 | cr2 | :D |
13:45.39 | cr2 | where did you read about ati ? |
13:46.05 | goxboxlive | BUt since it has BT 2.0 then it is not same BT chip as universal? |
13:46.15 | goxboxlive | Graphical Subsystem |
13:46.46 | cr2 | i think it's the same chip with different firmware |
13:47.13 | cr2 | it's all dirty tricks by TI. |
13:47.24 | goxboxlive | ok |
13:47.54 | goxboxlive | The keyboard is detatacheable |
13:48.20 | cr2 | BabelOued said he uses some modified firmware (supposedly 2.0 for BRF6150) on his BA with the old BFR6100 chipset! |
13:49.06 | cr2 | so i guess the hw differences are minimal. |
13:49.22 | goxboxlive | right |
13:49.37 | goxboxlive | But i guess it will be a expenisive device |
13:50.14 | cr2 | yeah. and big. |
13:50.39 | cr2 | detachable keyboard is very easy to break. imho it's a dumb idea. |
13:51.01 | goxboxlive | not so much bigger than universa, and it will be thinner |
13:51.37 | cr2 | even more thermal stress. |
13:51.47 | goxboxlive | :-) |
13:52.12 | cr2 | the dpi is not so nice as on the universal. |
13:52.46 | cr2 | RAM capacity: 64MB |
13:52.57 | cr2 | micro$oft makes me sick. |
13:53.02 | goxboxlive | :-) |
13:53.48 | goxboxlive | BUt even thouh i think it will be faster because of the graphic controller |
13:56.13 | cr2 | yes. |
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14:07.18 | goxboxlive | There is some nice pics of it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?threadid=286884 |
14:15.14 | goxboxlive | http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=687&id2=312 |
14:16.17 | cr2 | 97 vs. 81 width. it's a lot |
14:16.53 | cr2 | i doubt you can hold it in the hand. |
14:17.23 | cr2 | and 345 gramms |
14:18.38 | cr2 | it's still bearable. but the detachable keyboard... it's too fragile. |
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14:31.12 | goxboxlive | i c |
14:37.16 | goxboxlive | hmm i didnt know that we dont need any default.txt for Haret anymore. So all that is needed is a empty startup-855.txt |
14:40.43 | goxboxlive | no, forget it |
14:41.06 | cr2 | is the rootdelay already built-in ? |
14:41.19 | goxboxlive | i didnt get it working |
14:41.24 | cr2 | good idea, i should compile the ceggc. |
14:42.26 | cr2 | i have read the comments at xda-dev. we really need to simplify the boot. |
14:43.35 | goxboxlive | yes it should only be to tap [run] wothout and startup.txt file |
14:44.26 | goxboxlive | But, the issue with it is that some one use a swap file and other dont. and as i do, i use part1 for vfat, part2 for swap and part3 for opie and part4 for gpe |
14:44.51 | cr2 | yes, and hide the debug window by default. |
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15:41.09 | lkcl | allo darlins |
15:41.53 | pH5 | hey lkcl |
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15:57.53 | babel_work | hi |
16:01.23 | babel_work | good news lkcl :) with have some music soon when i understand how compiling helix cleanly :) |
16:02.48 | cr2 | babel_work: can you compile qtopia cleanly ? |
16:03.11 | cr2 | lkcl: patches, patches, patches :) |
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16:07.09 | babel_work | cr2 : i have started to build qtopia cleanly, with a device htcphone and precreate some plugin for autodetect keyboard from /proc |
16:07.33 | babel_work | but i have strange screen flashing, maybe the theme used |
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16:15.25 | samoht_ | hi |
16:15.52 | samoht_ | how can i install patch packager from opie console trhought ssh? |
16:16.44 | samoht_ | there is no package that is called patch, but i have to installa e patch for the lcd display on my blueangel |
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17:24.38 | goxboxlive | well i found it, it's bar |
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18:03.37 | cr2 | goxboxlive: why oe still compiles linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.18-hh1-r0 ? |
18:06.18 | Kevin2 | Hi |
18:16.37 | cr2 | Kevin2: hi. i get some symbol versioning warning while compiling cegcc . |
18:17.00 | cr2 | btw, will they ever submit the patches to the main gcc ? |
18:17.26 | Kevin2 | cr2: I think that is their goal. |
18:17.40 | Kevin2 | What version are you using? I haven't done an update in a while. |
18:18.00 | cr2 | latest svn. |
18:18.32 | cr2 | can't say which one, i'm rebuilding the whole tree now. |
18:19.29 | cr2 | committed-rev="864" |
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18:20.28 | cr2 | failed. |
18:20.32 | cr2 | In file included from /cluster/oleg/XANADUX/haret/cegcc/src/w32api/include/windef.h:265, |
18:20.33 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
18:20.33 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
18:20.33 | cr2 | /cluster/oleg/XANADUX/haret/cegcc/src/w32api/include/winnt.h:3908: error: conflicting types for ‘size_t’ |
18:20.33 | cr2 | /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/include/stddef.h:214: error: previous declaration of ‘size_t’ was here |
18:20.35 | cr2 | In file included from /cluster/oleg/XANADUX/haret/cegcc/src/gdb/gdb/win32-nat.c:83: |
18:21.08 | cr2 | size_t redefined ? |
18:21.56 | cr2 | and why is it using the host headers ? |
18:22.51 | Kevin2 | It's failing on gdb build -- the compiler should be okay. |
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18:23.01 | Kevin2 | look in the install directory. |
18:23.14 | Kevin2 | (Gdb fails because you're on a 64bit box - I get the same error.) |
18:23.44 | cr2 | ok. but it's a build system bug, not the 64bit bug. |
18:24.33 | cr2 | yes. the tools are built. |
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18:24.54 | Kevin2 | Yeah, they've been working on a fix. I'm not sure how I would use gdb anyway, so I haven't thought about it much. |
18:27.31 | cr2 | hmm. |
18:27.36 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
18:27.36 | cr2 | include/output.h:25: warning: 'InitProgress' initialized and declared 'extern' |
18:27.36 | cr2 | include/output.h:25: error: 'uint' was not declared in this scope |
18:27.36 | cr2 | include/output.h:26: warning: 'SetProgress' initialized and declared 'extern' |
18:27.37 | cr2 | include/output.h:26: error: 'uint' was not declared in this scope |
18:28.06 | cr2 | seems i need to cleanup my tree. |
18:29.21 | cr2 | ok. compiles now. |
18:29.30 | cr2 | too userfriendly :) |
18:30.32 | cr2 | foodtime. |
18:30.43 | BabelO | cr2: good diner :) |
18:30.58 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
18:31.04 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
18:31.11 | goxboxlive | what's up, is your Qtopia image running? |
18:31.37 | goxboxlive | Are you making it so it will take the keymap like GPE is? |
18:31.57 | BabelO | i ve cleanup all sharp specific device and add helix and plug directory for button and keyboard |
18:32.32 | BabelO | i don t now for keymap, i see that some other device like zaurus use kernelkeymap plugin |
18:32.40 | goxboxlive | good, is it compiling and runnig? |
18:32.46 | BabelO | but they use /dev/tty0 |
18:32.57 | goxboxlive | Yes, i know they do |
18:33.45 | BabelO | i m compiling again with latest svn and a clean try.... waiting 1 hour and half now :( |
18:33.59 | goxboxlive | But couldnt we just change /dev/tty0 to what we use? |
18:34.00 | goxboxlive | ok |
18:34.16 | BabelO | can we use same /dev/tty0 or /dev/input/eventx is better ?. |
18:34.18 | goxboxlive | Yes it takes a lot of time |
18:34.37 | BabelO | i use make -j 2 with my athlon xp1800 :( |
18:34.44 | goxboxlive | On the Universal we use /dev/input/event3 |
18:35.19 | goxboxlive | But as TS is been handling, udev makes a rule and creates a symlink to TS from /dev/inout/Touchscreen0 |
18:35.29 | BabelO | i try to make a cat /proc/input/devices and parse it to find key and ts |
18:37.33 | BabelO | and i ve tried bluetooth, it is ok, better than in opie |
18:39.22 | goxboxlive | Bluetooth, great. |
18:42.24 | goxboxlive | BabelO: You know that just TS and Keyboad can be compiled seperate from the rest of Qtopia, so you dont have to wait for allmost 2 hours again? |
18:42.56 | BabelO | yes i know.. |
18:45.06 | goxboxlive | good |
18:45.52 | BabelO | i use shadow build :) |
18:46.20 | goxboxlive | yes i saw that lpotter had made a howto, what's the purpose of using it? |
18:47.14 | BabelO | you can buildin multiple other tree... Usefull for multiple device or to have a clean svn tree |
18:47.38 | goxboxlive | ahh, yes that's right, a clean svn tree. |
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19:00.05 | goxboxlive | BabelO: When are you going to mail me your device tree? :-D |
19:02.37 | BabelO | when build is ok i send it to you :) |
19:02.58 | BabelO | ah device tree ? already compiled qtopia ? |
19:03.05 | BabelO | or htcphone directory ? |
19:16.10 | goxboxlive | htcphonedirectory so i can see what you have done. (look and learn) |
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19:20.06 | oppiz | http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/451 |
19:20.09 | oppiz | help? |
19:20.56 | oppiz | <PROTECTED> |
19:54.14 | cr2 | BabelO: what is helix ? |
19:54.41 | BabelO | cr2: helix is the replacement for opiemediaplayer, and a good replacement |
19:55.01 | BabelO | but not usefull at the moement |
19:55.01 | cr2 | mplayer ? |
19:55.24 | BabelO | https://helixcommunity.org/ |
19:56.34 | ellisway | helix is the opensource ver of realplayer realserver realencoder/producer etc etc |
19:57.13 | cr2 | ok, but a streaming server on a phone ?? |
19:57.28 | ellisway | na probably just the client or the encoder |
19:57.40 | BabelO | cr2: using for a wifi webcam :) :) |
19:57.58 | cr2 | sounds good. |
19:58.16 | cr2 | btw, do you have a link for opie2 svn ? |
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19:59.06 | BabelO | svn checkout svn://projects.linuxtogo.org/svn/opie |
19:59.14 | cr2 | thanks. |
19:59.23 | BabelO | this one work, http link ask password :( |
20:01.10 | cr2 | qtmail, does it support ssl ? spop3 ? |
20:01.23 | BabelO | ssl yes |
20:01.27 | goxboxlive | cr2: Are there any way to change refresh rate on the universal when running? |
20:02.04 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you mean the lccr4 ? |
20:02.04 | goxboxlive|gpe | yes |
20:02.05 | cr2 | devmem2 ;) |
20:02.37 | cr2 | write 0x80000000 to lccr4. |
20:05.50 | goxboxlive | I also noticing that the the keybaord has a delay after resume, have you noticed that? |
20:06.50 | cr2 | didn't use the universal too much recently. |
20:06.58 | goxboxlive | And when i tru to write lethers in caption it just woulndt type the lether, have to repeat a lot. |
20:07.09 | goxboxlive | s/tru/try/ |
20:07.26 | cr2 | BabelO: what is the compile command ? |
20:07.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: Kevin2 is the keyboard driver author :) |
20:07.53 | goxboxlive | ok |
20:08.38 | BabelO | compile command : configure -device zaurusclamshell |
20:08.57 | BabelO | but before edit device/zaurusclamshell to specify your tslib source and path |
20:09.20 | BabelO | sorry device/zaurusclamshell/configure |
20:09.34 | cr2 | devices/s3c24a0 |
20:09.43 | cr2 | hermes :) |
20:10.02 | cr2 | my tslib is from oe. |
20:10.18 | cr2 | cd device/zaurusclamshell ? |
20:10.29 | BabelO | i use a fake tree with tslib.h and libtslib.so from angstrom opie image |
20:10.49 | cr2 | btw, why zaurus ? it does not have anything phone-related |
20:11.24 | BabelO | because it have tslib, some mixer gui code and use kernelkeymap |
20:11.42 | cr2 | ok. |
20:12.22 | BabelO | look at devices/zaurusclamshell/src/mixer |
20:12.26 | BabelO | it is for you :) |
20:13.02 | cr2 | ok :) |
20:13.06 | cr2 | -no-sxe -no-drm -no-ssl ? |
20:13.19 | BabelO | use only ssl |
20:13.21 | cr2 | no-drm is obvious |
20:13.26 | cr2 | what is sxe ? |
20:13.33 | BabelO | other sxe is for single exec and drm beurk ! |
20:13.52 | cr2 | doesn't tell me anything :) |
20:14.07 | cr2 | "-depths 8,16,32" |
20:14.12 | cr2 | we have only 16 ? |
20:14.33 | BabelO | yes i think, i don t now for your universal ? |
20:15.05 | cr2 | it's the same for all. i don't know any 32bit depth PDA |
20:15.11 | cr2 | -qt-kbd-sl5000 ? |
20:15.23 | cr2 | it's a bizarre keyboard / layout. |
20:15.35 | BabelO | i remove it , don t understand where is it |
20:16.01 | cr2 | ok. |
20:16.05 | cr2 | -xplatform sharp |
20:16.12 | cr2 | does it have some effect ? |
20:16.48 | BabelO | add a -I and -L line thaht point to same directory as other |
20:17.08 | BabelO | you can use arm intead off this |
20:17.28 | BabelO | it use mkspec directory |
20:17.56 | cr2 | ok. |
20:18.26 | cr2 | export TEAMBUILDER_CC_VERSION='arm-linux-*:3.4.1;3.3.5' |
20:18.34 | cr2 | do i need to change that ? |
20:18.53 | BabelO | no there is arm-linux-* |
20:20.20 | cr2 | -prefix /media/hdd3/Qtopia |
20:20.27 | BabelO | no |
20:20.44 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
20:20.48 | cr2 | -sound-system oss |
20:20.49 | BabelO | no it is /opt/Qtopia, where is final install |
20:21.00 | cr2 | can i use alsa here ? |
20:21.44 | BabelO | is you have alsa header file in your directory where you specify -I/usr/local/arm/include or -extra-qtopiacore "-I...." |
20:22.13 | BabelO | i don't found correct header file for alsa |
20:22.28 | cr2 | i have full oe in ~/stuff |
20:22.53 | BabelO | good :) so your include directory is full :) |
20:23.49 | BabelO | -I/usr/local/arm/include -extra-qtopiacore-config "-I/usr/local/arm/include" and same for -L in this file |
20:23.56 | BabelO | for bluetooth and dbus same |
20:24.20 | BabelO | -bluetooth-dbus -dbuspath /home/fcr/armlinux/opie/usr |
20:24.41 | BabelO | opie/usr is usr directory of gpe angstrom image |
20:24.53 | BabelO | because it have libdbus-1.0.so in it |
20:26.01 | BabelO | -bluetooth -dbus -dbuspath /home/fcr/armlinux/opie/usr |
20:29.43 | BabelO | sorry for the name but i merge the two image in one |
20:33.50 | cr2 | ok. |
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21:08.31 | kimuSan^ | Hi |
21:10.35 | kimuSan^ | anyone working on getting linux on the Trinity? |
21:12.24 | BabelO | kimuSan^: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux |
21:12.54 | BabelO | i don t think if there is no information here |
21:13.17 | BabelO | it is the one with builtin gps ? |
21:15.47 | kimuSan^ | well thats the P3300, this is the P3600 |
21:16.25 | kimuSan^ | it is supposed to have GPS (at least GPSone) but it is disabled until a new ROM from HTC has arrived |
21:23.00 | kimuSan^ | it should be quite similar to the Hermes |
21:23.49 | BabelO | yes the same without keyboard :) and in february with a gps builtin |
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21:32.01 | zippo | hey |
21:34.11 | kimuSan^ | BabelO: yes |
21:34.14 | kimuSan^ | hi zippo |
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21:35.45 | zippo | does the ACX driver use special |
21:38.24 | zippo | does the ACX driver use special variant that defines another branch for memory based I/O access IS_PCI/IS_USB/IS_MEM ???? |
21:40.31 | zippo | Keven2? |
22:03.55 | kimuSan^ | does anyone know the status of how far they have come with linux on the Hermes. Is there a kernel ready (haret or not) |
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