00:00.03 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, hm, weird. nope, I dunno. I actually, adding battery classdev is still todo for h4000. but hx4700/h2200 uses it, you can look there... |
00:00.51 | Kevin2 | Yeah, I looked there.. I don't get it. |
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00:14.03 | zippo | he |
00:14.04 | zippo | y |
00:15.44 | zippo | Kevin2 you happen to be around? |
00:22.16 | Kevin2 | zippo: Yes. |
00:22.43 | zippo | oh heh |
00:22.45 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. It looks like the battery_class_register issue was a result of me calling it too early in the boot process. |
00:23.58 | zippo | my question is, the screen rotation is handled by a gpio? and how is it you are acsessing that? /proc/gpio or another way? |
00:24.33 | Kevin2 | I currently map the screen rotation gpio to a keyboard button event. |
00:24.53 | Kevin2 | So, extending the keyboard would look like a key press, and pushing the keyboard back in would look like a key up event. |
00:25.14 | Kevin2 | I don't know if that is the "right" way to do it. |
00:25.33 | zippo | a simple bash script can do it, if we enable proc_gpio in the kernel |
00:26.00 | zippo | i also beleave the button on the top is processed by a gpio |
00:26.30 | Kevin2 | It is easy to rotate the console (just put a value in /proc), but it isn't the same for X and Opie -- I'm not sure what they need to rotate the screen. |
00:26.37 | Kevin2 | zippo: Yes, the power button is a gpio. |
00:27.41 | zippo | opie has a rotate program already installed and working. just need to link it. suspend however doesnot work in opie |
00:29.21 | Kevin2 | Okay. We can pull out the gpio from the keyboard and just use /proc/gpio. |
00:30.20 | zippo | indeed, the we can just link things to /proc/gpio with echo "AF1 out" > /proc/gpio/GPIO12 |
00:30.26 | zippo | or what not |
00:30.35 | zippo | then use a simple bash script for now. |
00:31.28 | zippo | Kevin2 what command in gpe are you using to rotate the screen? |
00:32.31 | Kevin2 | I don't know how to rotate the screen in GPE. |
00:32.39 | zippo | ah |
00:35.23 | zippo | Kevin2 i'm at work now, could you put a zImage somehwere or e-mail it to zippo@oppiz.net so i can test some things? |
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00:38.54 | Kevin2 | zippo: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/HTCApache/testimages/ |
00:39.15 | Kevin2 | But don't you need the rest of the distro for it to work? |
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00:41.10 | kattmat | I'm mad. I have to get a port to the artemis going, since no one else does! |
00:45.34 | zippo | Kevin2: my zimage is jacked |
00:54.17 | zippo | kattmat that's ok, it will be fun? |
00:55.15 | kattmat | zippo: i will end up fucking up my entire phone. lovely. |
00:55.33 | zippo | well, i'm somewhat putting my phone on the line? |
00:56.44 | kattmat | yes, you're putting your phone on the line when i try to get linux running on my phone. exactly. |
01:07.06 | zippo | Kevin2: just run xrandr -x or -o to the X server and it should rotate it in gpe |
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01:11.36 | Kevin2 | Neat! |
01:13.09 | zippo | so with watch and bash, we now have suspend button and screen rotation working |
01:13.12 | zippo | :-D |
01:17.25 | zippo | Kevin2 how hard do you think it will be to get the phone working? |
01:27.29 | Kevin2 | zippo: I don't know. cr2 and goxboxlive have made some progress on the universal -- but that uses a gsm chip. I think Apache is the only active port with a cdma modem. |
01:28.17 | Kevin2 | Initial traces (see the wiki) look pretty promising. So, it might all just come together quickly. However, the traces of some things (eg, phone init) seem to be entirely "black magic" and figuring them out could be difficult. |
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01:30.59 | zippo | Kevin2: **SIGH** that's the part we really need. |
01:32.52 | zippo | the MSM6500has support in linux though |
01:33.01 | Kevin2 | Well, there are two main approaches to this problem: 1 - observer the phone interactions and try to figure out what it is doing, and 2 - disassemble and reverse engineer the wince code. |
01:33.18 | Kevin2 | zippo: That is for the data network, right? (I didn't think they had any linux code for phone calls.) |
01:33.51 | zippo | but it sends everything as data i thought |
01:34.19 | zippo | it converts voice to data and trans |
01:36.23 | zippo | the chips is already in the kernel from what i am reading |
01:37.44 | Kevin2 | zippo: You may know more than me. However, from my traces, it appears the sound chip interacts directly with the cdma chip. The pxa isn't involved in routing the sound at all. |
01:38.22 | zippo | hmmm |
01:38.50 | zippo | i'm looking for more info now, maybe someone has the chip working and we can just hack it a little |
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01:40.18 | zippo | w00t, |
01:40.58 | zippo | kevin2 from what i am reading several other phone use the chip and are linux based phones so we should, thought it might be painful, find that the support be there already just needs tweaking |
01:42.14 | Kevin2 | Well that would certainly be a pleasant surprise. |
01:43.22 | zippo | The MSM7500 follows upon the MSM6500 chipset that Qualcomm announced in May, when it first said it would support Linux on its mobile phone chipsets |
01:44.24 | zippo | i will look at it more when i get home, but it looks very promising |
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05:47.21 | oppiz | anyone home? |
05:51.47 | ellisway | kinda |
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13:31.19 | lkcl | guys: i wonder if the wavedev does anything more sophisticated when power is unplugged - like... power down the sound codec. i've been looking for the UDA1380 codec reset and powerup for ages on BA |
13:31.46 | lkcl | and on charge (which is where i've been doing most of the testing) the codec appears to stay powered up all the time |
13:40.41 | lkcl | ok i think i got the codec reset gpio - B14 |
13:41.33 | lkcl | ... or maybe not :) |
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13:45.26 | dothebart | hy. |
13:45.33 | dothebart | i was wondering where to get closer information how to start getting something onto an htc hermes |
13:45.49 | dothebart | this is the best place for that, right? |
13:45.55 | goxboxlive | yes |
13:46.12 | goxboxlive | lkcl hasent you and cr2 allready started something with the hermes? |
13:46.29 | lkcl | hermes hermes.... yep - having fun with haret, though. |
13:46.52 | dothebart | where's it stuck at? |
13:46.53 | lkcl | haret for s3c24xx is still in infancy. |
13:47.19 | lkcl | two people have managed to use haret to boot up devices: the ipaq H1940 and the Eten G500 |
13:47.50 | lkcl | the G500 device can only boot into linux if bluetooth is enabled at the time, otherwise it's a guaranteed crash. |
13:48.10 | lkcl | ben@fluff.org had some very good patches to haret which made it work on the h1940 |
13:48.27 | lkcl | but those changes have not made it into Kevin2's haret. yet. |
13:48.32 | dothebart | where can i read more about haret? |
13:48.42 | lkcl | maaany places, dothebart. |
13:49.19 | lkcl | because a lot of people are xxxxing stupid windows developers who don't believe in the concept of free software development, and who believe in cut/pasting of code. |
13:49.39 | lkcl | sorry, that's me being flippant |
13:49.44 | dothebart | ;-) |
13:49.45 | lkcl | there are several versions. |
13:52.00 | lkcl | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH1940Downloads |
13:52.05 | lkcl | look on there for haret.exe |
13:53.02 | dothebart | this is the boot loader? |
13:53.59 | dothebart | i had to produce ce soft in summer, and it was always itching my fingers to get linux onto one of these... |
13:54.30 | dothebart | and i found the hermes to be the best choice in size, features and cpu power to start that ;-) |
14:06.56 | lkcl | dothebart: i just spoke to people on OFTC #h1940, the patches _were_ in but they got 'de-integrated'. |
14:07.10 | lkcl | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/haret/src/wince/cpu-s3c24xx.cpp |
14:07.20 | lkcl | look for work from 'fluffy' - that's ben's work |
14:07.55 | dothebart | is there a cross gcc for that? |
14:08.07 | dothebart | i just have the vs at work... |
14:09.37 | lkcl | dothebart: try not to mention that you have - or use - windows to me. it will only make me queasy |
14:09.55 | lkcl | yes there is - it's a bit of a pig to find... somewhere on handhelds.org... |
14:10.02 | lkcl | google search time. again |
14:11.00 | dothebart | lkcl: it has been my first *s workstation for 6 years... i've been fucked up enough myself about that. |
14:12.23 | lkcl | one company tried to make me use windows. after wasting four hours after the third reinstall attempt, due to service-pack fuckups, they relented. i think, however, it was the way that i kicked the machine that really did it. |
14:13.18 | dothebart | hm, that poor thing won't be treated that much as windows anymore. i use bblean, colinux, and cygwin X right now ;-) |
14:13.39 | lkcl | *cackle*. oh good - more things to explore (bblean) |
14:13.55 | dothebart | yep. |
14:14.52 | lkcl | bblean? oh god, you poor thing. |
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14:15.13 | dothebart | thats real neat. throwing explorer out as window manager reduces the whish to barf after logging in by factor 10 |
14:15.37 | dothebart | i'd love to have an ion windows port though ;-) |
14:15.54 | lkcl | hey that's not bad |
14:16.21 | lkcl | ahh do look up evilwm - my friend phil hand's favourite window manager |
14:17.07 | dothebart | usability extends to about a dozend till 20 windows at the same time from half a dozend with explorer, but rapidly drops after. |
14:18.01 | dothebart | hm, right now i have 21 windows, on this desktop. |
14:18.02 | dothebart | ;-) |
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14:21.51 | lkcl | fvwm2 with 3x3. don't have to minimise _anything_ then. |
14:22.07 | lkcl | ok. so. |
14:22.10 | lkcl | cross-compiler. |
14:22.26 | dothebart | the building x mini howto meniones something... |
14:22.50 | dothebart | ah, done. |
14:23.05 | dothebart | hihi, some php error: Warning: fopen(/home/ftp/STATS): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/httpd/html/include/download.inc on line |
14:23.08 | dothebart | 6 |
14:23.46 | dothebart | and the ldap server seems to be gone? |
14:23.51 | dothebart | http://www.handhelds.org/downloads.html |
14:24.23 | lkcl | http://www.handhelds.org/download/projects/toolchain/ |
14:25.21 | dothebart | luckily m$ has dropped all other platforms than arm... so .. ;-) |
14:25.43 | lkcl | http://www.handhelds.org/download/projects/toolchain/arm-linux-gcc-3.4.1.tar.bz2 |
14:26.26 | lkcl | personally i use debian, with emdebian.org arm-linux-gnu-gcc-4.1 |
14:26.30 | lkcl | and a couple of others. |
14:26.36 | dothebart | this sounds good. |
14:26.47 | lkcl | then, for compiling haret, you need.... erk... |
14:27.16 | lkcl | arm-wince-mingw32ce-g++ |
14:27.56 | lkcl | and if you get the cvs from handhelds.org for haret, the INSTALL file contains the cross-compilation instructions for that compiler, and where to get it from. |
14:28.08 | dothebart | whats the apt line for emdebian? |
14:32.53 | lkcl | 1sec.... |
14:33.37 | lkcl | http://www.emdebian.org/tools/crosstools.html |
14:35.55 | dothebart | ah, thats comfortble :] |
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14:46.11 | lkcl | allo kattmat |
14:46.19 | kattmat | hi, man. |
14:50.25 | dothebart | which gcc should i use? the 3.3 one? |
14:51.23 | dothebart | ok, latest and brightest. |
14:52.31 | dothebart | ugh. welcome to dependancy hell. |
14:53.13 | dothebart | i'll try 4.0, that has no missing dependencies. |
14:55.01 | lkcl | i assume you're using debian/stable? |
14:55.07 | dothebart | what? |
14:55.13 | dothebart | debian outdated? no. |
14:55.15 | lkcl | you'll probably need to upgrade your desktop system to debian/testing |
14:55.32 | dothebart | i've been using sid for 4 years. |
14:55.47 | lkcl | he he likewise |
14:56.08 | lkcl | firefox is thoroughly screwed, as a result, but hey, you can't have everything |
14:56.15 | dothebart | yep. |
14:56.28 | dothebart | with my old profile noscript won't work anymore :( |
14:56.35 | lkcl | this is cool! http://www.simtec.co.uk/products/EB2410ITX/ |
14:56.48 | dothebart | it blocks whole bookmark meny and shit... |
14:57.04 | lkcl | oops |
14:57.42 | dothebart | fine though. my hermes kind of a evaluation board? |
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15:21.02 | Hymie | you're an evaluation board, dothebart |
15:21.07 | Hymie | YOU"RE AN EVALUATION BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!! |
15:21.39 | dothebart | ah, that must be the reason why i'm soldered here and there. |
15:24.36 | Hymie | no, it's because you don't have an army of clones yet ;) I _want_ to be a development model.. then, I can clone me, but make improvements, and then lead my army of hymie dudes into the next century... and they will all respect and worship me as the "creator" |
15:24.57 | Hymie | my first job will be to remove the excesses of capitalism |
15:25.05 | Hymie | I like capitalism, just not the excesses |
15:25.19 | Hymie | it's like a fat man ; he ate too much, but food is still ok, and needed! |
15:25.44 | dothebart | right! |
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16:15.24 | asylumed | anyone know anything about the pxa-serial code? |
16:18.15 | lkcl | not exactly, but ask anyway asylumed |
16:20.25 | asylumed | there is some suspend routing that causes a "close" or something with the serial port that the bluetooth chip is attached to... |
16:20.45 | asylumed | unfortunately this is picked up by the chip, and makes it talk back... |
16:21.10 | asylumed | and i've set it to wake up on the interrupt that signals data has been sent... |
16:21.46 | asylumed | and it's about 5 interrupts, about a second or so apart, after the resume too... |
16:22.12 | asylumed | if i send any short random data to the port i get the same result... |
16:23.39 | asylumed | any ideas? |
16:24.20 | asylumed | routing = routine |
16:44.01 | dothebart | lkcl: once i found a list of things to do to make your computer unusable to collegues on the net... |
16:44.10 | dothebart | most of them where true for my machine... |
16:44.25 | dothebart | but with the intention to make it usable: TO ME :] |
16:44.36 | lkcl | my favourite one is modifying the registry so that it runs cmd.exe as the startup shell |
16:44.41 | dothebart | bblean, sloppy focus, dvorak keyboard... |
16:45.33 | dothebart | the ones untrue were swapping mouse buttons, putting it left of the keyboard, or use trackballs... |
16:45.49 | dothebart | but that cmd thingie is cool too! |
16:45.58 | lkcl | asylumed: hmmm... |
16:46.35 | lkcl | asylumed: have you tried running wi in haret, over a suspend/resume? |
16:46.40 | lkcl | try it :) |
16:46.48 | asylumed | k |
16:47.22 | lkcl | run wi on the serial port rx/tx address, and do a suspend/resume in wince. |
16:47.56 | lkcl | it might go thoroughly horribly wrong, due to the irqs being patched by haret, but hey, it's worth a shot :) |
16:49.54 | rob__w | ahh my oe is back online .. baking like a charm |
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16:53.17 | Kevin2 | Hi |
16:59.29 | lkcl | allo Kevin2 |
16:59.31 | Kevin2 | lkcl: As near as I can tell, HaRET is not the problem on Hermes -- I'd check your kernel out (after all I have a report that G500 boots). Also, I've analyzed all the s3c24xx patches I could find. They all appear contradictory, and none seem to be likely to cause the issue you're seeing. |
16:59.53 | lkcl | Kevin2: G500 boots - only if bluetooth is enable3d at the time |
17:00.11 | Kevin2 | That is unlikely to be a HaRET issue -- probably kernel related. |
17:00.20 | lkcl | if bluetooth in wince is not enabled, it fails. |
17:00.34 | Kevin2 | As a hint, old PXA kernels used to write to the serial port at startup -- maybe your kernel is trying to do the same. |
17:00.52 | lkcl | i've tried putting in a vibra gpio pull-up ... |
17:00.55 | lkcl | hmmm... |
17:01.13 | lkcl | right at the start of kernel load and it's not done |
17:02.25 | lkcl | *sigh*... |
17:02.48 | Kevin2 | lkcl: See include/asm-arm/arch-s3c2410/uncompress.h -- looks like same problem I had on pxa. |
17:03.11 | lkcl | Kevin2: fluff's patches to src/wince/s3csomething.cpp do some weird stuff to the serial ports |
17:03.15 | lkcl | okie |
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17:04.48 | Kevin2 | lkcl: Hrmm. I'll take a look. A lot of that stuff wasn't actually getting run, however. |
17:04.53 | lkcl | ahh |
17:06.13 | lkcl | ok there's a 'boot error reset' thing enabled |
17:06.54 | lkcl | bye bye :) |
17:08.56 | lkcl | that's one less config option |
17:09.23 | Kevin2 | lkcl: Note the putc function there. It gets called from the early uncompress code (see arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.c). If it tries to write to a serial port that isn't turned on... |
17:09.34 | lkcl | ack. ok. |
17:11.28 | lkcl | ok it seems to be only enabled if there's WATCHDOG configs enabled |
17:11.47 | lkcl | #ifdef CONFIG_S3C2410_BOOT_WATCHDOG |
17:13.48 | Kevin2 | lkcl: putc isn't in that #define |
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17:18.21 | lkcl | ok |
17:19.41 | lkcl | damn. i think i damaged the usb part of my BA cradle by plugging it in to the sable. |
17:24.14 | rob__w | lkcl, that must have hurd |
17:24.43 | lkcl | o well i have a serial cable around somewhere |
17:28.52 | lkcl | hey, got an irc joke for you. |
17:29.00 | lkcl | it's a bit dark-humour |
17:29.09 | lkcl | anyone wanna hear it? |
17:30.28 | lkcl | rob__w: let's hope i didn't do the same thing to the himalaya charger as well, urk.. |
17:32.47 | lkcl | Kevin2: i think you're right. that would explain it. |
17:33.12 | lkcl | if bluetooth enabled, that means that the spurious sending gets through... |
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17:38.47 | lkcl | he put in code that set up the serial ports |
17:43.59 | lkcl | ok that code going wrong would also explain why i couldn't get anywhere with the vibra: it's called as an assembly-routine |
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20:10.55 | rob__w | ba under angstrom pulls in a wrong kernel ??! |
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20:51.31 | lkcl | <rtp> fyi, Ben is working on a s3c-iis driver for ASoC |
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21:04.30 | IR9846 | hi |
21:09.08 | rob__w | hmm ba is not set as compatible machine for linux-handhelds-2.6,inc |
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21:37.09 | marcio | hi eerybody |
21:42.04 | rob_w | hello marcio |
21:42.16 | marcio | hi rob |
21:42.31 | marcio | guys, I've got a question... |
21:43.00 | marcio | I'm a newbie, but have been using GPE on IPAQ 3970 for a long time |
21:43.06 | rob_w | nice |
21:43.13 | marcio | thanks |
21:43.26 | rob_w | u surely want the status of device XX in real life ? |
21:43.35 | marcio | exactly! |
21:43.37 | psokolovsky | rob_w, I'm going to fix that. and rename it to htcblueangel.conf for consistency. |
21:43.39 | rob_w | bam |
21:43.59 | marcio | I can check on hh.org |
21:44.06 | rob_w | psokolovsky, koen added blueanlge ot linux-handhelds-2.6.inc already |
21:44.24 | rob_w | but we also need to take care of the blueangel.defconfig or such |
21:44.27 | psokolovsky | rob_w, nice. so how about rename? |
21:44.46 | rob_w | that renames the whole MACHINE |
21:45.11 | psokolovsky | rob_w, yep, so it's better to do that earlier, than later |
21:45.20 | marcio | but what I'd like to know: is blueangel or universal ready for daily work (universal seems to be), e.g. calling smsin, etc? |
21:45.22 | rob_w | but hey it looks better after that |
21:45.53 | psokolovsky | rob_w, so, ok? |
21:45.57 | rob_w | marcio, it is the other way ,,, are you ready to work daily on them ! ;-) |
21:46.03 | rob_w | go go |
21:46.08 | marcio | OK :-) |
21:46.22 | rob_w | psokolovsky, you have my vote |
21:46.29 | psokolovsky | rob_w, ok, thanks |
21:46.44 | marcio | I might only buy one by march nxt year... do you think it will be usasble by then? |
21:46.53 | rob_w | psokolovsky, but then you also to change htcblueangel.defconfig |
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21:47.51 | psokolovsky | rob_w, sure. or rather, is it in repo already? if no, please submit |
21:48.36 | rob_w | i am co the .18-hh2 and check how it looks |
21:49.02 | psokolovsky | rob_w, better to work on HEAD of course ;-) |
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21:51.10 | goxboxlive | test |
21:51.19 | goxboxlive | again |
21:51.28 | goxboxlive | hmm cool |
21:51.31 | goxboxlive | :-) |
21:52.55 | rob_w | psokolovsky, do you mean kernel.org HEAD ? |
21:53.10 | rob_w | goxboxlive, whats that ? |
21:53.39 | goxboxlive | just trying out the web irc at qtopia.net |
21:53.55 | goxboxlive | rob_w: I was able to start qtopia today |
21:54.32 | goxboxlive | I compiled the greenphone version, and installed it on a bootstrap image and it started |
21:54.41 | psokolovsky | rob_w, yeah |
21:54.47 | goxboxlive | but, i didnt manage to get the TS working |
21:55.17 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, well, if you're IRC from it, it's damn cool ;-) |
21:55.34 | goxboxlive | no i am not, so ot's not that cool .-) |
21:56.23 | rob_w | so what does the greenphone apps include ? |
21:56.55 | goxboxlive | just the useual stuff. well back to 4400. bbl |
21:58.21 | Alkanet | IP: 84.77.141.217 |
21:59.30 | Alkanet | sorry i'm esting |
21:59.55 | psokolovsky | rob_w, renamed. the conf itself needs an update btw... |
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22:29.15 | rob_w | psokolovsky, can you handle that ? |
22:30.30 | psokolovsky | rob_w, yep, sure. it's ok to convert it from xanadux to hh, right? |
22:31.52 | rob_w | as you also have write access to hh.org kernel ..then i can feed you with things |
22:33.58 | psokolovsky | rob_w, feel free to. but better post them to kernel-discuss maillist. |
22:45.53 | marcio | bye guys |
23:11.38 | lkcl | whew - the himalaya cradle is ok. i dismantled it to connect the circuit board into the blueangel |
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23:21.52 | rob_w | psokolovsky, could you also add a packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/htcblueangel/ and add the .18-hh2 defconfig there ? |