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00:00.03psokolovsky_Kevin2, hm, weird. nope, I dunno. I actually, adding battery classdev is still todo for h4000. but hx4700/h2200 uses it, you can look there...
00:00.51Kevin2Yeah, I looked there..  I don't get it.
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00:14.03zippohe
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00:15.44zippoKevin2 you happen to be around?
00:22.16Kevin2zippo: Yes.
00:22.43zippooh heh
00:22.45Kevin2Hrmm.  It looks like the battery_class_register issue was a result of me calling it too early in the boot process.
00:23.58zippomy question is, the screen rotation is handled by a gpio? and how is it you are acsessing that? /proc/gpio or another way?
00:24.33Kevin2I currently map the screen rotation gpio to a keyboard button event.
00:24.53Kevin2So, extending the keyboard would look like a key press, and pushing the keyboard back in would look like a key up event.
00:25.14Kevin2I don't know if that is the "right" way to do it.
00:25.33zippoa simple bash script can do it, if we enable proc_gpio in the kernel
00:26.00zippoi also beleave the button on the top is processed by a gpio
00:26.30Kevin2It is easy to rotate the console (just put a value in /proc), but it isn't the same for X and Opie -- I'm not sure what they need to rotate the screen.
00:26.37Kevin2zippo: Yes, the power button is a gpio.
00:27.41zippoopie has a rotate program already installed and working. just need to link it. suspend however doesnot work in opie
00:29.21Kevin2Okay.  We can pull out the gpio from the keyboard and just use /proc/gpio.
00:30.20zippoindeed, the we can just link things to /proc/gpio with echo "AF1 out" > /proc/gpio/GPIO12
00:30.26zippoor what not
00:30.35zippothen use a simple bash script for now.
00:31.28zippoKevin2 what command in gpe are you using to rotate the screen?
00:32.31Kevin2I don't know how to rotate the screen in GPE.
00:32.39zippoah
00:35.23zippoKevin2 i'm at work now, could you put a zImage somehwere or e-mail it to zippo@oppiz.net so i can test some things?
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00:38.54Kevin2zippo:  http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/HTCApache/testimages/
00:39.15Kevin2But don't you need the rest of the distro for it to work?
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00:41.10kattmatI'm mad. I have to get a port to the artemis going, since no one else does!
00:45.34zippoKevin2: my zimage is jacked
00:54.17zippokattmat that's ok, it will be fun?
00:55.15kattmatzippo: i will end up fucking up my entire phone. lovely.
00:55.33zippowell, i'm somewhat putting my phone on the line?
00:56.44kattmatyes, you're putting your phone on the line when i try to get linux running on my phone. exactly.
01:07.06zippoKevin2: just run xrandr -x or -o to the X server and it should rotate it in gpe
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01:11.36Kevin2Neat!
01:13.09zipposo with watch and bash, we now have suspend button and screen rotation working
01:13.12zippo:-D
01:17.25zippoKevin2 how hard do you think it will be to get the phone working?
01:27.29Kevin2zippo: I don't know.  cr2 and goxboxlive have made some progress on the universal -- but that uses a gsm chip.  I think Apache is the only active port with a cdma modem.
01:28.17Kevin2Initial traces (see the wiki) look pretty promising.  So, it might all just come together quickly.  However, the traces of some things (eg, phone init) seem to be entirely "black magic" and figuring them out could be difficult.
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01:30.59zippoKevin2: **SIGH** that's the part we really need.
01:32.52zippothe MSM6500has support in linux though
01:33.01Kevin2Well, there are two main approaches to this problem: 1 - observer the phone interactions and try to figure out what it is doing, and 2 - disassemble and reverse engineer the wince code.
01:33.18Kevin2zippo: That is for the data network, right?  (I didn't think they had any linux code for phone calls.)
01:33.51zippobut it sends everything as data i thought
01:34.19zippoit converts voice to data and trans
01:36.23zippothe chips is already in the kernel from what i am reading
01:37.44Kevin2zippo: You may know more than me.  However, from my traces, it appears the sound chip interacts directly with the cdma chip.  The pxa isn't involved in routing the sound at all.
01:38.22zippohmmm
01:38.50zippoi'm looking for more info now, maybe someone has the chip working and we can just hack it a little
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01:40.18zippow00t,
01:40.58zippokevin2 from what i am reading several other phone use the chip and are linux based phones so we should, thought it might be painful, find that the support be there already just needs tweaking
01:42.14Kevin2Well that would certainly be a pleasant surprise.
01:43.22zippoThe MSM7500 follows upon the MSM6500 chipset that Qualcomm announced in May, when it first said it would support Linux on its mobile phone chipsets
01:44.24zippoi will look at it more when i get home, but it looks very promising
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05:47.21oppizanyone home?
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13:31.19lkclguys: i wonder if the wavedev does anything more sophisticated when power is unplugged - like... power down the sound codec.  i've been looking for the UDA1380 codec reset and powerup for ages on BA
13:31.46lkcland on charge (which is where i've been doing most of the testing) the codec appears to stay powered up all the time
13:40.41lkclok i think i got the codec reset gpio - B14
13:41.33lkcl... or maybe not :)
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13:45.26dothebarthy.
13:45.33dothebarti was wondering where to get closer information how to start getting something onto an htc hermes
13:45.49dothebartthis is the best place for that, right?
13:45.55goxboxliveyes
13:46.12goxboxlivelkcl hasent you and cr2 allready started something with the hermes?
13:46.29lkclhermes hermes.... yep - having fun with haret, though.
13:46.52dothebartwhere's it stuck at?
13:46.53lkclharet for s3c24xx is still in infancy.
13:47.19lkcltwo people have managed to use haret to boot up devices: the ipaq  H1940 and the Eten G500
13:47.50lkclthe G500 device can only boot into linux if bluetooth is enabled at the time, otherwise it's a guaranteed crash.
13:48.10lkclben@fluff.org had some very good patches to haret which made it work on the h1940
13:48.27lkclbut those changes have not made it into Kevin2's haret.  yet.
13:48.32dothebartwhere can i read more about haret?
13:48.42lkclmaaany places, dothebart.
13:49.19lkclbecause a lot of people are xxxxing stupid windows developers who don't believe in the concept of free software development, and who believe in cut/pasting of code.
13:49.39lkclsorry, that's me being flippant
13:49.44dothebart;-)
13:49.45lkclthere are several versions.
13:52.00lkclhttp://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH1940Downloads
13:52.05lkcllook on there for haret.exe
13:53.02dothebartthis is the boot loader?
13:53.59dothebarti had to produce ce soft in summer, and it was always itching my fingers to get linux onto one of these...
13:54.30dothebartand i found the hermes to be the best choice in size, features and cpu power to start that ;-)
14:06.56lkcldothebart: i just spoke to people on OFTC #h1940, the patches _were_ in but they got 'de-integrated'.
14:07.10lkclhttp://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/haret/src/wince/cpu-s3c24xx.cpp
14:07.20lkcllook for work from 'fluffy' - that's ben's work
14:07.55dothebartis there a cross gcc for that?
14:08.07dothebarti just have the vs at work...
14:09.37lkcldothebart: try not to mention that you have - or use - windows to me.  it will only make me queasy
14:09.55lkclyes there is - it's a bit of a pig to find... somewhere on handhelds.org...
14:10.02lkclgoogle search time.  again
14:11.00dothebartlkcl: it has been my first *s workstation for 6 years... i've been fucked up enough myself about that.
14:12.23lkclone company tried to make me use windows.  after wasting four hours after the third reinstall attempt, due to service-pack fuckups, they relented.  i think, however, it was the way that i kicked the machine that really did it.
14:13.18dothebarthm, that poor thing won't be treated that much as windows anymore. i use bblean, colinux, and cygwin X right now ;-)
14:13.39lkcl*cackle*.  oh good - more things to explore (bblean)
14:13.55dothebartyep.
14:14.52lkclbblean?  oh god, you poor thing.
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14:15.13dothebartthats real neat. throwing explorer out as window manager reduces the whish to barf after logging in by factor 10
14:15.37dothebarti'd love to have an ion windows port though ;-)
14:15.54lkclhey that's not bad
14:16.21lkclahh do look up evilwm - my friend phil hand's favourite window manager
14:17.07dothebartusability extends to about a dozend till 20 windows at the same time from half a dozend with explorer, but rapidly drops after.
14:18.01dothebarthm, right now i have 21 windows, on this desktop.
14:18.02dothebart;-)
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14:21.51lkclfvwm2 with 3x3.  don't have to minimise _anything_ then.
14:22.07lkclok.  so.
14:22.10lkclcross-compiler.
14:22.26dothebartthe building x mini howto meniones something...
14:22.50dothebartah, done.
14:23.05dothebarthihi, some php error: Warning: fopen(/home/ftp/STATS): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/httpd/html/include/download.inc on line
14:23.08dothebart6
14:23.46dothebartand the ldap server seems to be gone?
14:23.51dothebarthttp://www.handhelds.org/downloads.html
14:24.23lkclhttp://www.handhelds.org/download/projects/toolchain/
14:25.21dothebartluckily m$ has dropped all other platforms than arm... so .. ;-)
14:25.43lkclhttp://www.handhelds.org/download/projects/toolchain/arm-linux-gcc-3.4.1.tar.bz2
14:26.26lkclpersonally i use debian, with emdebian.org arm-linux-gnu-gcc-4.1
14:26.30lkcland a couple of others.
14:26.36dothebartthis sounds good.
14:26.47lkclthen, for compiling haret, you need.... erk...
14:27.16lkclarm-wince-mingw32ce-g++
14:27.56lkcland if you get the cvs from handhelds.org for haret, the INSTALL file contains the cross-compilation instructions for that compiler, and where to get it from.
14:28.08dothebartwhats the apt line for emdebian?
14:32.53lkcl1sec....
14:33.37lkclhttp://www.emdebian.org/tools/crosstools.html
14:35.55dothebartah, thats comfortble :]
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14:46.11lkclallo kattmat
14:46.19kattmathi, man.
14:50.25dothebartwhich gcc should i use? the 3.3 one?
14:51.23dothebartok, latest and brightest.
14:52.31dothebartugh. welcome to dependancy hell.
14:53.13dothebarti'll try 4.0, that has no missing dependencies.
14:55.01lkcli assume you're using debian/stable?
14:55.07dothebartwhat?
14:55.13dothebartdebian outdated? no.
14:55.15lkclyou'll probably need to upgrade your desktop system to debian/testing
14:55.32dothebarti've been using sid for 4 years.
14:55.47lkclhe he likewise
14:56.08lkclfirefox is thoroughly screwed, as a result, but hey, you can't have everything
14:56.15dothebartyep.
14:56.28dothebartwith my old profile noscript won't work anymore :(
14:56.35lkclthis is cool! http://www.simtec.co.uk/products/EB2410ITX/
14:56.48dothebartit blocks whole bookmark meny and shit...
14:57.04lkcloops
14:57.42dothebartfine though. my hermes kind of a evaluation board?
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15:21.02Hymieyou're an evaluation board, dothebart
15:21.07HymieYOU"RE AN EVALUATION BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:21.39dothebartah, that must be the reason why i'm soldered here and there.
15:24.36Hymieno, it's because you don't have an army of clones yet ;)  I _want_ to be a development model.. then, I can clone me, but make improvements, and then lead my army of hymie dudes into the next century... and they will all respect and worship me as the "creator"
15:24.57Hymiemy first job will be to remove the excesses of capitalism
15:25.05HymieI like capitalism, just not the excesses
15:25.19Hymieit's like a fat man ; he ate too much, but food is still ok, and needed!
15:25.44dothebartright!
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16:15.24asylumedanyone know anything about the pxa-serial code?
16:18.15lkclnot exactly, but ask anyway asylumed
16:20.25asylumedthere is some suspend routing that causes a "close" or something with the serial port that the bluetooth chip is attached to...
16:20.45asylumedunfortunately this is picked up by the chip, and makes it talk back...
16:21.10asylumedand i've set it to wake up on the interrupt that signals data has been sent...
16:21.46asylumedand it's  about 5 interrupts, about a second or so apart, after the resume too...
16:22.12asylumedif i send any short random data to the port i get the same result...
16:23.39asylumedany ideas?
16:24.20asylumedrouting = routine
16:44.01dothebartlkcl: once i found a list of things to do to make your computer unusable to collegues on the net...
16:44.10dothebartmost of them where true for my machine...
16:44.25dothebartbut with the intention to make it usable: TO ME :]
16:44.36lkclmy favourite one is modifying the registry so that it runs cmd.exe as the startup shell
16:44.41dothebartbblean, sloppy focus, dvorak keyboard...
16:45.33dothebartthe ones untrue were swapping mouse buttons, putting it left of the keyboard, or use trackballs...
16:45.49dothebartbut that cmd thingie is cool too!
16:45.58lkclasylumed: hmmm...
16:46.35lkclasylumed: have you tried running wi in haret, over a suspend/resume?
16:46.40lkcltry it :)
16:46.48asylumedk
16:47.22lkclrun wi on the serial port rx/tx address, and do a suspend/resume in wince.
16:47.56lkclit might go thoroughly horribly wrong, due to the irqs being patched by haret, but hey, it's worth a shot :)
16:49.54rob__wahh my oe is back online .. baking like a charm
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16:53.17Kevin2Hi
16:59.29lkclallo Kevin2
16:59.31Kevin2lkcl: As near as I can tell, HaRET is not the problem on Hermes -- I'd check your kernel out (after all I have a report that G500 boots).  Also, I've analyzed all the s3c24xx patches I could find.  They all appear contradictory, and none seem to be likely to cause the issue you're seeing.
16:59.53lkclKevin2: G500 boots - only if bluetooth is enable3d at the time
17:00.11Kevin2That is unlikely to be a HaRET issue -- probably kernel related.
17:00.20lkclif bluetooth in wince is not enabled, it fails.
17:00.34Kevin2As a hint, old PXA kernels used to write to the serial port at startup -- maybe your kernel is trying to do the same.
17:00.52lkcli've tried putting in a vibra gpio pull-up ...
17:00.55lkclhmmm...
17:01.13lkclright at the start of kernel load and it's not done
17:02.25lkcl*sigh*...
17:02.48Kevin2lkcl:  See include/asm-arm/arch-s3c2410/uncompress.h  -- looks like same problem I had on pxa.
17:03.11lkclKevin2: fluff's patches to src/wince/s3csomething.cpp do some weird stuff to the serial ports
17:03.15lkclokie
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17:04.48Kevin2lkcl:  Hrmm.  I'll take a look.  A lot of that stuff wasn't actually getting run, however.
17:04.53lkclahh
17:06.13lkclok there's a 'boot error reset' thing enabled
17:06.54lkclbye bye :)
17:08.56lkclthat's one less config option
17:09.23Kevin2lkcl: Note the putc function there.  It gets called from the early uncompress code (see arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.c).  If it tries to write to a serial port that isn't turned on...
17:09.34lkclack.  ok.
17:11.28lkclok it seems to be only enabled if there's WATCHDOG configs enabled
17:11.47lkcl#ifdef CONFIG_S3C2410_BOOT_WATCHDOG
17:13.48Kevin2lkcl: putc isn't in that #define
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17:18.21lkclok
17:19.41lkcldamn.  i think i damaged the usb part of my BA cradle by plugging it in to the sable.
17:24.14rob__wlkcl, that must have hurd
17:24.43lkclo well i have a serial cable around somewhere
17:28.52lkclhey, got an irc joke for you.
17:29.00lkclit's a bit dark-humour
17:29.09lkclanyone wanna hear it?
17:30.28lkclrob__w: let's hope i didn't do the same thing to the himalaya charger as well, urk..
17:32.47lkclKevin2: i think you're right.  that would explain it.
17:33.12lkclif bluetooth enabled, that means that the spurious sending gets through...
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17:38.47lkclhe put in code that set up the serial ports
17:43.59lkclok that code going wrong would also explain why i couldn't get anywhere with the vibra: it's called as an assembly-routine
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20:10.55rob__wba under angstrom pulls in a wrong kernel ??!
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20:51.31lkcl<rtp> fyi, Ben is working on a s3c-iis driver for ASoC
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21:04.30IR9846hi
21:09.08rob__whmm ba is not set as compatible machine for linux-handhelds-2.6,inc
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21:37.09marciohi eerybody
21:42.04rob_whello marcio
21:42.16marciohi rob
21:42.31marcioguys, I've got a question...
21:43.00marcioI'm a newbie, but have been using GPE on IPAQ 3970 for a long time
21:43.06rob_wnice
21:43.13marciothanks
21:43.26rob_wu surely want the status of device XX in real life ?
21:43.35marcioexactly!
21:43.37psokolovskyrob_w, I'm going to fix that. and rename it to htcblueangel.conf for consistency.
21:43.39rob_wbam
21:43.59marcioI can check on hh.org
21:44.06rob_wpsokolovsky, koen added blueanlge ot linux-handhelds-2.6.inc already
21:44.24rob_wbut we also need to take care of the blueangel.defconfig or such
21:44.27psokolovskyrob_w, nice. so how about rename?
21:44.46rob_wthat renames the whole MACHINE
21:45.11psokolovskyrob_w, yep, so it's better to do that earlier, than later
21:45.20marciobut what I'd like to know: is blueangel or universal ready for daily work (universal seems to be), e.g. calling smsin, etc?
21:45.22rob_wbut hey it looks better after that
21:45.53psokolovskyrob_w, so, ok?
21:45.57rob_wmarcio, it is the other way ,,, are you ready to work daily on them ! ;-)
21:46.03rob_wgo go
21:46.08marcioOK :-)
21:46.22rob_wpsokolovsky, you have my vote
21:46.29psokolovskyrob_w, ok, thanks
21:46.44marcioI might only buy one by march nxt year... do you think it will be usasble by then?
21:46.53rob_wpsokolovsky, but then you also to change htcblueangel.defconfig
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21:47.51psokolovskyrob_w, sure. or rather, is it in repo already? if no, please submit
21:48.36rob_wi am co the .18-hh2 and check how it looks
21:49.02psokolovskyrob_w, better to work on HEAD of course ;-)
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21:51.10goxboxlivetest
21:51.19goxboxliveagain
21:51.28goxboxlivehmm cool
21:51.31goxboxlive:-)
21:52.55rob_wpsokolovsky, do you mean kernel.org HEAD ?
21:53.10rob_wgoxboxlive, whats that ?
21:53.39goxboxlivejust trying out the web irc at qtopia.net
21:53.55goxboxliverob_w: I was able to start qtopia today
21:54.32goxboxliveI compiled the greenphone version, and installed it on a bootstrap image and it started
21:54.41psokolovskyrob_w, yeah
21:54.47goxboxlivebut, i didnt manage to get the TS working
21:55.17psokolovskygoxboxlive, well, if you're IRC from it, it's damn cool ;-)
21:55.34goxboxliveno i am not, so ot's not that cool .-)
21:56.23rob_wso what does the greenphone apps include ?
21:56.55goxboxlivejust the useual stuff. well back to 4400. bbl
21:58.21AlkanetIP: 84.77.141.217
21:59.30Alkanetsorry i'm esting
21:59.55psokolovskyrob_w, renamed. the conf itself needs an update btw...
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22:29.15rob_wpsokolovsky, can you handle that ?
22:30.30psokolovskyrob_w, yep, sure. it's ok to convert it from xanadux to hh, right?
22:31.52rob_was you also have write access to hh.org kernel ..then i can feed you with things
22:33.58psokolovskyrob_w, feel free to. but better post them to kernel-discuss maillist.
22:45.53marciobye guys
23:11.38lkclwhew - the himalaya cradle is ok.  i dismantled it to connect the circuit board into the blueangel
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23:21.52rob_wpsokolovsky, could you also add a packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/htcblueangel/ and add the .18-hh2 defconfig there ?

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