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| 01:25.35 | lkcl | o fer goodness sake. i got the same thing, BabelOued. |
| 01:25.37 | lkcl | wtf?? |
| 01:25.48 | lkcl | nuts, he's gone. |
| 01:30.12 | lkcl | how odd. |
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| 01:35.26 | lkcl | argh tsc2200.h updated file got lost |
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| 01:51.37 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, where it was lost? |
| 01:51.47 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, do you work on .19? |
| 01:51.51 | lkcl | dunno - probably by me. old version creeped in |
| 01:51.57 | lkcl | psoko: i work in cvs main |
| 01:52.19 | lkcl | an old version of tsc2200.h crept in (well, older as in from last week) |
| 01:53.50 | lkcl | psokolovsky: i am having fun, trying to get blueangel up-and-running. i talked to pH5 and to liam, i have pH5's asoc magician code, and i have to merge asoc 0.12.4 to get _that_ to work... |
| 01:54.39 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, please spend some time to convert sable's drivers to be proper platform_driver. did you have resume working on sable? |
| 01:55.21 | lkcl | no, i never got resume working - i've stopped on sable, for now, until cr2 gets his device up-and-running. |
| 01:55.31 | lkcl | then i will re-focus on sable. |
| 01:56.03 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, ok. but guys, please convert all your driver to be platform, so we all know that .19 is good for all us. |
| 01:56.10 | lkcl | ok. |
| 01:56.18 | lkcl | any good examples to follow? |
| 01:56.25 | psokolovsky_ | quick grep shows you have lots unconverted == resume won't work for those devices |
| 01:56.39 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, it was discussed in k-d ;-) |
| 01:56.45 | lkcl | oh ok :) ha ha |
| 01:56.47 | psokolovsky_ | i'll drop you link, but later... |
| 01:56.55 | lkcl | no it's ok i find it |
| 01:57.14 | lkcl | i got time. |
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| 04:07.04 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky: I'm here now. Otherwise - feel free to email me. |
| 04:08.09 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, Hi! So, do you have any plans/ideas on at least putting different haret snapshot builds online at easily available place? |
| 04:09.23 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky_: I'd like to, but I don't have a hosting facility to publish them at. |
| 04:10.01 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, well, i can handle that, just would like to be sure I don't step on your feet here. |
| 04:10.41 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, and - you have a webspace as hh.org account holder, http://hh.org/~username ;-) |
| 04:10.41 | Kevin2 | Not at all. If you're going to push an exe, let's tag it first. |
| 04:11.01 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky_: How do I upload to that space? |
| 04:11.22 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, yes, I noticed that there was no tags for some time, since 0.4.4. if there's something to tag, please do |
| 04:12.01 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, ssh to hh.org, and anything under ~/public_html/ will show at that link (subject to perms, of course) |
| 04:12.15 | Kevin2 | Well, nothing major - just a bunch of minor improvements, but it is always good to be able to back track to a built exe that is distributed. |
| 04:12.17 | lkcl | psoko: who's the best person to review an asoc 0.12.4 hh.org cvs patch? |
| 04:12.19 | psokolovsky_ | so, you can use scp once dir structure is set up |
| 04:12.37 | lkcl | the last asoc update was... 0.12? 0.11? |
| 04:13.12 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, please make sure Spyro knows of your plans to commit it. He commit asoc originally, and I guess, the only stakeholder for it besides you. |
| 04:13.21 | lkcl | psoko: ok, ta. |
| 04:13.39 | lkcl | ok he's off at the mo. |
| 04:13.39 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, if Spyro wrote good commit msgs, we'd know what version it was ;-) |
| 04:13.44 | lkcl | ha ha |
| 04:14.01 | lkcl | well pH5 is the other person who needs it. |
| 04:14.07 | psokolovsky_ | just forward him your mail personally, I guess. and wait a day ;-) |
| 04:14.16 | lkcl | he's working on magician, with liam |
| 04:14.17 | lkcl | okie :) |
| 04:14.21 | psokolovsky_ | nice! |
| 04:14.46 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky_: Wow, I didn't even know I had shell access. :-) |
| 04:15.13 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, is you have CVS over SSH, you have shell, unless it's forcibly closed ;-) |
| 04:15.50 | Kevin2 | Is there anything I should know about proper use/restrictions? I assume it is okay if I put haret binaries up there. |
| 04:16.15 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, so, my plan was to upload 0.4.2, 0.4.3, 0.4.4 and let people test it, untill we'll be able to spend more time on QA and roll out "official" release |
| 04:16.59 | Kevin2 | I think we should just push the latest release. There were some bugs fixed from the previous releases. |
| 04:17.21 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, my assumption is just the same. I never heard/read anything like that, just saw other people using it. So, I assume if it's directly related to your hh.org work, and not bigger than few MBs, it's ok. |
| 04:18.05 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, yep, bugs fixes, and regressions made ;-) remember, ~0.4.2 worked on h3900, latest - doesn't ;-) |
| 04:18.40 | Kevin2 | I didn't know latest didn't work on h3900 -- what's wrong? |
| 04:19.48 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, ah, damn, not latest ;-). 0.4.3+cvs. I told you couple of times - it doesn't boot linux, just drops of to wince. I actually still didn't test latest ;-( |
| 04:21.16 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky_: Well, prior to my rewrite of the linux boot code, I really didn't change anything in the linux boot code. I can say that the previous code was pretty fragile (I think changing code locations could cause destabalization). I'd be curious to see if the latest code works okay. |
| 04:21.42 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, I'll check once .19 kernel works well enough, I swear ;-) |
| 04:22.25 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, so, of course feel free to do it the way you think it's good if you'll handle publishing snapshots |
| 04:22.54 | psokolovsky_ | if we'll get reports of specific regressions for some devices with latest, we can provide older snashots then |
| 04:24.42 | bd2 | psokolovsky_, hey! |
| 04:25.11 | psokolovsky_ | bd2, good morning ;-D |
| 04:25.39 | bd2 | heh, yeah.. lately I'm indeed sleeping at night, and wakes up early. feels great ;-) |
| 04:25.49 | psokolovsky_ | cool! |
| 04:39.22 | Ralith | anyone here dev'ing for/on the Universal? |
| 04:39.38 | Ralith | more importantly, anyone know about the status of the DoC drivers? |
| 04:40.41 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky_: I've tagged and upload haret to http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret-0.4.5.exe |
| 04:41.11 | Kevin2 | Ralith: There are several developers with the Universal - it is probably the most supported device. There is no DoC support currently. |
| 04:42.06 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, nice, thanks! maybe worth to create a subdir for haret just now, in case later you'll want to post kernels, patches, etc. there... |
| 04:43.35 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky_: Good point. I've moved the file. |
| 04:46.26 | Ralith | Kevin2, on http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus I see Internal Flash TBD TBD Should be ready, if someone dears to try feel free to contact us at htc-pxa@handhelds.org |
| 04:46.51 | Ralith | and I'm wondering exactly what status it's at, and what the risks are in 'daring to try' |
| 04:48.33 | Kevin2 | Ralith: I've heard rumors that some people on another project have done some work, but I don't know anyone who has tried to get it to work on a PDA. You might want to ask "cr2" if he knows the status. |
| 04:49.17 | Ralith | Kevin2, handhelds.org is 'another project'? |
| 04:49.30 | Ralith | it says right there it's ready to be tested O.o |
| 04:49.53 | Ralith | also, on xdadevelopers I've seen someone comment that there was working barebones code, but implied it needed work |
| 04:53.57 | Kevin2 | Ralith: To the best of my knowledge, it is ready for someone to try coding it. But I could be wrong - I haven't really looked at that area yet. |
| 04:54.17 | Ralith | as in, the information exists but it's yet to be implemented? |
| 04:55.11 | Kevin2 | M-Sys published docs on the chip - I have the pdf on my harddrive now. I haven't seen anyone with a driver yet. (But as you noted, I've heard "rumors" that someone has some bare bones stuff working.) |
| 04:56.19 | Kevin2 | Since we can run everything off of SD/Mini-SD, it hasn't been a priority to get the DoC working yet. Getting the phone working, suspend/resume, etc. have had a higher priority with many of the developers. |
| 04:56.50 | Ralith | yeah, that makes sense |
| 04:59.08 | Ralith | it's good to hear that the docs are published, though |
| 04:59.30 | Ralith | do you have a general idea how well development in the rest is moving along? |
| 05:11.03 | Kevin2 | I'd say progress is definitely being made. There is even initial support for making phone calls on Universal. |
| 05:11.32 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, I guess you know, that G2 (32mb) support is in CVS now, and h6300 said they had G3 support or something... |
| 05:12.53 | Ralith | Kevin2, yeah, I saw that on the wiki. I'm planning on getting one soon and very eager to have it functional under linux. |
| 05:13.04 | Ralith | sounds like it won't be too long :) |
| 05:15.28 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky_: No, I didn't know that. |
| 05:16.12 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, h4000 reads its flash pretty well. and I'm waiting for some madhead to make/test write ;-) |
| 05:16.20 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky_: Oops - I forgot to modify the makefile to report version 0.4.5 -- I've fixed up cvs and pushed that exe again. |
| 05:16.52 | psokolovsky_ | Kevin2, ok ;-) just in case, cvs tag has -F option to move tag ;-) |
| 05:17.13 | Kevin2 | Yeah, I just used "-d" and then reapplied it. |
| 05:17.30 | Kevin2 | (After creating a "Makefile" tag, "help" tag, etc -- but I deleted those too.) :-) |
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| 11:43.47 | goxboxlive | cr2: Are you around? |
| 12:15.06 | babeloued | lkcl : you want some more files to compile ? sound is working ? |
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| 12:37.57 | cr2 | goxboxlive: does the kernel resume now ? |
| 12:39.17 | goxboxlive | cr2: No |
| 12:39.30 | goxboxlive | The keyboard doesnt work either after boot |
| 12:39.59 | goxboxlive | It suspends (via ssh) but doesnt wake up with the power button |
| 12:40.21 | goxboxlive | But i can see that it is working via cat /dev/input/event1 |
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| 12:48.00 | cr2 | hmm. ok. |
| 12:48.02 | goxboxlive | But cat /dev/input/event3 is dead (keybaord) |
| 12:48.17 | cr2 | there must be some other bug. |
| 12:48.37 | goxboxlive | well, the keybaord worked before your changes yesterday. |
| 12:51.51 | cr2 | i know :) |
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| 14:06.20 | lkcl | babeloued: sure. no not yet, i have debug on gotta test. alsa device not registering. |
| 14:06.21 | lkcl | bbl |
| 14:06.38 | babeloued | lkcl : hi |
| 14:07.16 | babeloued | i send you correct header file for tsc2200.h |
| 14:10.59 | lkcl | you verified what i committed just today? i found the newer version. |
| 14:11.53 | babeloued | ah ok, ok i m connecting at my home network and trying it |
| 14:12.05 | babeloued | any success with sound this night :) ? |
| 14:25.45 | babeloued | lkcl : it is good now :) |
| 14:28.48 | babeloued | lkcl : i can't add you at linkedin i m not registered :( |
| 14:30.13 | lkcl | babeloued: oops |
| 14:30.28 | lkcl | i will see. asoc looks horrendously complex. |
| 14:32.00 | lkcl | babeloued: what's your email address? |
| 14:36.09 | babeloued | lkcl : you got my message ? |
| 14:39.50 | lkcl | yep |
| 14:43.32 | cr2 | lkcl: you have some H4000 remnants in sable* is it intentional ? |
| 14:56.17 | babeloued | lkcl :thanks |
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| 15:07.08 | ccureau | Any suggestions for trying to discover what the gpios in the Wizard actually do? |
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| 15:08.47 | cr2 | if your haret supports direct memory access and you know where are the registers, then yes. |
| 15:09.22 | cr2 | i'm not familiar with omap850, so can't tell more. |
| 15:11.36 | ccureau | I'm not really familiar with it either...they're pretty secretive devices |
| 15:13.04 | ccureau | I have a haret dump...I'm just not sure where to go from there |
| 15:18.48 | cr2 | but there is some working code for omap730 |
| 15:19.17 | ccureau | Are those the tornadoes? |
| 15:20.36 | cr2 | yes. |
| 15:22.07 | ccureau | Read about those |
| 15:22.11 | cr2 | you can also get a demo of ida pro. |
| 15:22.25 | ccureau | ida pro? |
| 15:22.30 | cr2 | and check the wince binaries. |
| 15:22.40 | cr2 | disassembler. |
| 15:22.47 | ccureau | ah :) |
| 15:23.34 | ccureau | I'm assuming it runs in windows? |
| 15:24.55 | ccureau | well, maybe it'll run with wine |
| 15:29.42 | cr2 | it works in wine |
| 15:30.00 | cr2 | otherwise i'll not mention it :) |
| 15:33.05 | ccureau | :D |
| 15:33.28 | ccureau | So, really, all I'd need to do is find the program that does the function I'm interested in and trace through |
| 15:33.35 | ccureau | I can give that a shot |
| 15:34.28 | ccureau | I wonder if WinCE will allow you to access the bare hardware |
| 15:35.26 | LunohoD_ | there is also ida pro for linux |
| 15:35.57 | ccureau | I didn't see it as an evaluation download |
| 15:37.04 | LunohoD_ | i have only cracked version |
| 15:37.18 | ccureau | contribute? :D |
| 15:38.14 | LunohoD_ | what do you mean? |
| 15:39.05 | ccureau | Asking to share the cracked version...but I can find it elsewhere. |
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| 18:21.58 | lkcl | LunohoD: don't use cracked software around here. it is _vital_ that you do not use it to do reverse-engineering. you can be sued by manufacturers - and they will win, not because of the case of copyright but because you had unlicensed or illegal software. |
| 18:22.26 | lkcl | so please - DO NOT use any cracked software. the license for ida pro is only $400 - the same as a phone. |
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| 18:27.01 | LunohoD_ | lkcl: i agree with you |
| 18:27.20 | ccureau | lkcl: isn't it as likely that they will sue you for reverse-engineering in the first place? |
| 18:28.32 | LunohoD_ | but i won't pay $400 for the software i do not use |
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| 18:35.57 | pierrox | hi |
| 18:36.10 | BabelOued | hi pierrox |
| 18:36.21 | BabelOued | hi goxboxlive |
| 18:36.35 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 18:36.52 | pierrox | hi BabelOued |
| 18:37.08 | BabelOued | goxboxlive: you use opie from cvs to builduniversal image ? |
| 18:37.40 | pierrox | lkcl: did you find the time to commit some parts of the g500 patch ? |
| 18:38.05 | goxboxlive | BabelOued: Yes i am building from cvs. Otherwise i will miss some of the Universal spesified stuff. They where not suplied in the 1.2.2 version. |
| 18:38.52 | BabelOued | goxboxlive: ok. backlight command in opie works for universal ? |
| 18:39.41 | goxboxlive | Do you mean adjsuting the backlight? |
| 18:39.54 | BabelOued | oh... yes |
| 18:40.03 | goxboxlive | Yes it works, but instead of pxa-fb we use corgi-bl |
| 18:40.16 | BabelOued | me too |
| 18:40.41 | BabelOued | i see /sys/class/backlight/corgi-bl but opie can't adjust |
| 18:41.46 | rmoravcik | pierrox: hi |
| 18:42.00 | pierrox | rmoravcik: hi |
| 18:42.45 | pierrox | rmoravcik: lkcl said me that you are working on s3c24xx |
| 18:43.00 | rmoravcik | pierrox: if you want rtp has new version of his patches http://www.rtp-net.org/ipaq/patches/2.6.19/ |
| 18:43.19 | pierrox | rmoravcik: yes i had a look at it today |
| 18:43.23 | rmoravcik | pierrox: yes, i'm working on rx3715 (s3c2440) |
| 18:44.10 | pierrox | rmoravcik: i took several things from rx3715, it was really helpfull :-) |
| 18:44.39 | rmoravcik | pierrox: i saw, you make some changes in touchscreen driver |
| 18:45.02 | pierrox | rmoravcik: yes, but it is not really good. i had some problems with the original version |
| 18:45.50 | rmoravcik | pierrox: did you try discuss this problem with rtp? |
| 18:45.51 | pierrox | rmoravcik: i have made some cleaning (indentation + #ifdef) http://www.pierrox.net/G500/20061205/linux-2.6.19-phe-g500.diff |
| 18:46.27 | pierrox | rmoravcik: yes but at this time my mail did not reached it (I may have a wrong email ?) |
| 18:46.42 | pierrox | reached him, sorry (french) |
| 18:49.06 | rmoravcik | pierrox: if you want thare is a universal gpio keyboard driver in hh.org cvs, you can use it. it has support for s3c24xx |
| 18:49.26 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.43 | pierrox | rmoravcik: yes, i use it :-) but some buttons are not on gpios (?) |
| 18:50.08 | pierrox | moravcik: did you have succes on PM on the s3c2440 ? it seems that existing s3c2410 code is not far from s3c2440, but does not resume at early stage for me |
| 18:50.13 | rmoravcik | pierrox: so where are connected? |
| 18:50.34 | pierrox | rmoravcik: don't know yet, there is a single interrupt for several buttons |
| 18:50.55 | rmoravcik | pierrox: yes, we finish it yesterday |
| 18:51.15 | pierrox | rmoravcik: really ? great ! |
| 18:51.58 | BabelOued | goxboxlive: try include input.h :) |
| 18:52.09 | rmoravcik | pierrox: http://trinity.fluff.org/ben/linux-26/2619/ |
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| 18:58.15 | pierrox | rmoravcik: wonderfull ! there are not a lot of diffs |
| 18:58.21 | florian | re |
| 18:58.27 | pierrox | re |
| 18:59.21 | rmoravcik | pierrox: i will look to your patch today, and i think we can start commiting with rtp's last udc patch |
| 19:00.44 | pierrox | rmoravcik: most of things included in this patch comes from rx3715 and h1940, except the modified ts driver and mci driver |
| 19:01.34 | pierrox | rmoravcik: s3c2440 could be merged in s3c2410mci, but my version is not clean : I have an unknown crc error on write |
| 19:01.56 | rmoravcik | ok, but i want commit only rtp's last patch, for example udc driver in your 2.6.18 patch was little bit old |
| 19:02.11 | pierrox | rmoravcik: yes, that is true |
| 19:02.20 | pierrox | at least 2 months old |
| 19:02.45 | rmoravcik | pierrox: maybe you can try send mail to ben dooks, he is a expert to s3c24xx |
| 19:02.52 | pH5 | hey, are you interested in writing a s3c24xx patch to support the common gpio api (see http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/11/30/331)? |
| 19:03.33 | pH5 | this is what I hacked together, but I don't have any samsung device: http://en.pastebin.ca/269653 |
| 19:04.13 | pierrox | pH5: not me, i am not qualified enough for that |
| 19:08.14 | rmoravcik | ph5: i think it looks good |
| 19:14.36 | goxboxlive | <BabelOued> yes that's right, now it compiled |
| 19:14.38 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 19:15.26 | goxboxlive | BUt it didnt help our keybaord working |
| 19:19.38 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'll test the touchscreen patch now, and commit the corrections. |
| 19:20.26 | cr2 | pierrox rmoravcik: should we create device subdirectories for s3c24xx as it is done on pxa ? |
| 19:20.29 | goxboxlive | cr2: Touchscreenpatch? What's wrong with our TS? It has never worked as good as now. |
| 19:21.08 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it should be more generic. i can reuse it for sable without rewriting. |
| 19:22.12 | cr2 | pH5: can we try to operate the tsc2046 in 16bit or 32bit mode ? the docs say something about 16bit mode, but will the 32bit mode too slow ? |
| 19:22.36 | goxboxlive | cr2: ok |
| 19:23.00 | pierrox | cr2: imho it should be preferable not to duplicate too much files, i know that i don't help for that however |
| 19:25.10 | lkcl | cr2: the subdirectories is happening already, sound/soc/s3c244x etc. |
| 19:25.59 | cr2 | lkcl: in arch-s3c2410 |
| 19:26.08 | lkcl | goboxlive: do a diff between the htcsable_ts2.c and htcuniversal_ts2.c and you will see that the only locations which are different are the GPIO pins and maybe the SSCR1 instead of SSCR2 |
| 19:26.26 | lkcl | cr2: oh nuts. it should be called arch-s3c24xx |
| 19:26.35 | goxboxlive | lkcl : ok |
| 19:26.36 | pH5 | 32 bit mode? I thought it was 24bit |
| 19:26.53 | rmoravcik | cr2: in the future there will be probably more s3c24xx devices, so maybe it is good idea |
| 19:26.55 | cr2 | it 24bit now, so we can't use pxa2xx-spi |
| 19:27.08 | pierrox | lkcl: sound/soc/s3c244x ? where ? i want it ! |
| 19:27.15 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:27.28 | lkcl | he he - give me a chance to clean up the asoc-0.12.4 patches ok? :) |
| 19:27.38 | pierrox | :-) |
| 19:27.41 | lkcl | i need to talk with Spyro to make sure he is happy with it. |
| 19:27.49 | lkcl | plus, you will need to write a joining-module |
| 19:29.48 | pierrox | lkcl: as soon as i get pm working i will switch on sound |
| 19:30.45 | rmoravcik | pierrox: i have done sound on my rx3715 with alsa s3c2440-iis, but not with asoc yet |
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| 19:32.44 | pierrox | rmoravcik: fluff is working on sound too ? |
| 19:33.52 | rmoravcik | pierrox: on asoc implementation |
| 19:34.04 | pH5 | cr2: hm. the tsc2046 has 8bit and 12bit modes. |
| 19:34.34 | pierrox | rmoravcik: and the other parts are device dependant ? |
| 19:35.11 | rmoravcik | pierrox: yes |
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| 19:36.26 | cr2 | pH5: the ADC. i'm talking about spi. you send the command shifted <<16 now, and receive the 16bit sample data. |
| 19:36.55 | rmoravcik | pierrox: http://morgan.fbi.cz/tmp/kernel26-2.6.19-hh4.patch my patch for rx3715 with sound support |
| 19:37.14 | cr2 | i suggest to try 2 options. set spi to 16bit, send <<8 , recv 16 bit. there may be some timing issues according to the manual. |
| 19:37.40 | pierrox | rmoravcik: thanks, i will have a look at it |
| 19:37.55 | cr2 | or set spi to 32bit, send <<24, recv >>16. should work, but may be slow (?) |
| 19:38.33 | pierrox | i have enough patches to spent the whole night on my device, great :-) |
| 19:39.22 | rmoravcik | pierrox: but kernel with sound sometimes crash http://pastebin.ca/269717 |
| 19:39.42 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the keyboard is broken by my (braindead?) platform_device patch. the "new" touchscreen works. i need the opie with .19-hh2 modules ;) |
| 19:40.15 | goxboxlive | hmm, i'l see if i have any, hold on |
| 19:40.37 | pierrox | rmoravcik: nice ! but i don't fear to reboot, i have made that at least a billion times on my g500 :-) |
| 19:41.04 | rmoravcik | pierrox: me too |
| 19:42.02 | goxboxlive | cr2: I have one, shall i upload it to gnulinux.biz? |
| 19:42.09 | pierrox | rmoravcik: the reset button is the most used button on theses toys |
| 19:42.26 | rmoravcik | pierrox: :) |
| 19:44.42 | pH5 | cr2: so in either case, we are using the slow 24-clock per conversion mode, right? first the cmd byte is sent, and then two bytes (containing the 12 bit result) are read afterwards |
| 19:45.11 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'd like to debug the keyboard first. |
| 19:45.28 | cr2 | pH5: we waste the SPI bandwidth. |
| 19:46.20 | goxboxlive | cr2: Well, anyway it is upped. But, just so you know, hh4 is now tagged. |
| 19:46.28 | cr2 | the commands are 8bit, and the samples are 12 (need 16bit) 16 bit spi will be optimal. 32bit spi will be 2 times slower. 24bit spi as now is 1.5 times slower. |
| 19:46.46 | cr2 | hh4 ? |
| 19:46.54 | pH5 | 2.6.19-hh4 |
| 19:47.04 | cr2 | why do i have .12 ? :) |
| 19:47.12 | cr2 | -hh2 , sorry. |
| 19:47.44 | goxboxlive | well, hh4 where tagged today, doint ask me about hh3. Havent seen it. |
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| 20:00.35 | goxboxlive | cr2: While you are updatings some of the universal drivers, be sure to add input.h to htcuniversal.c. It is missing and failes compiling without it. |
| 20:00.54 | asylumed | cr2: hi |
| 20:01.14 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes, otherwise i could not compile anything. |
| 20:01.22 | cr2 | hi asylumed |
| 20:02.06 | asylumed | cr2: just looking at the tsc2200 stuff that got comitted... |
| 20:02.09 | asylumed | cr2: do you think the tsc2200_keys and tsc2200_ts stuff should go into the input/keyboard and touchscreen directories? |
| 20:04.25 | cr2 | asylumed: if they will use pxa2xx-spi, then yes. |
| 20:05.32 | asylumed | cr2: k |
| 20:07.51 | cr2 | asylumed: tsc2200 uses 16bit spi ? |
| 20:11.36 | asylumed | cr2: yes |
| 20:13.08 | cr2 | asylumed: look at magician.c how pH5 uses pxa2xx-spi |
| 20:14.45 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have reverted the keyboard patch, testing the driver now. it may make resume unhappy, but is still better than the broken keyboard. |
| 20:15.20 | goxboxlive | yes :-) |
| 20:15.25 | asylumed | cr2: why is it commented out though? |
| 20:17.42 | cr2 | asylumed: because pxa2xx-spi does not support 24bit transfers. |
| 20:20.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive: why opie switches to tty2 at start, and not to the first free tty ? maybe that explains psplash fiasco ? |
| 20:21.43 | goxboxlive | yes, that might be the reason. Is there way to let opie use the first free tty? |
| 20:22.18 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.30 | goxboxlive | could that be the reasom? |
| 20:22.42 | goxboxlive | s/reasom/reason/ |
| 20:23.22 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.57 | cr2 | yes. since you have enabled many virtual consoles in /etc/inittab, you should change it too. |
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| 20:27.38 | goxboxlive | But if i remove that, i will only have one console, and that's not good. It's great to have this i mean thow. |
| 20:30.06 | pierrox|aw | good night ! |
| 20:31.07 | cr2 | goxboxlive: why do you need to set the terminal there ? X usually takes the first available, why not qpe ? |
| 20:33.14 | goxboxlive | Well i have not set the terminal there. That's opie default as far as i know. But in my initab i have tty1-4 and would still like to have that. But do you mean if i just remove the "2" from 'opie' it will solve the psplash issue? |
| 20:35.21 | cr2 | it may. |
| 20:35.30 | cr2 | keyboard driver updated. |
| 20:36.16 | cr2 | hmm. but universal still does not want to resume. |
| 20:37.04 | cr2 | the only remaining driver that hx4700 does not have is pxa27x-ohci |
| 20:37.29 | goxboxlive | no, i know now why psplsh use fuc*es upopie- If i pu terminal 3 instead of termional 2 in opie i guess it will work. I tried to remove "2" now, and the shell is showing as same as psplash . So i guess psplash is using tty2 and therefor Opie should use tty3 |
| 20:37.53 | rob_w | cr2, do you have any ideas on how to setup a 3d env , for kdrive ? |
| 20:39.58 | cr2 | rob_w: it requires writing a device driver inside Xserver. not something that i'd like to do :) |
| 20:40.47 | cr2 | you are opening a very big can of worms. |
| 20:42.27 | rob_w | aiii |
| 20:43.06 | rob_w | i just dont how chip companys dont ship samples of how they would like their hardware used |
| 20:43.26 | rob_w | its a pitty that one needs to "explore" all those things on his own |
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| 21:00.39 | goxboxlive | well you have that right, it doesnt want to resume. But the keyboard works now. But i thought you also fixed the evdev stuff that where hardcoded, but it doesnt seems like it since udev dont create a touchscreen0. |
| 21:06.28 | lkcl | goboxlive: i heard from psokolovsky yesterday, and he says that there's a message on kernel-discuss describing the resume code redesign, as part of the platform_devices infrastructure |
| 21:06.38 | pH5 | goxboxlive: compare /sys/class/input/input?/modalias with the expression in the udev rule |
| 21:07.07 | lkcl | we can expect resume failures (like i do with the sable) until we update all of the htc stuff to use the more recent code, like everyone else is. |
| 21:09.12 | goxboxlive | lkcl: ok, i thuoght cr2 tried that out yesterday wich broke our keyborad. |
| 21:09.33 | goxboxlive | pH5: ok,i'll take a look |
| 21:09.54 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have converted the keyboard to platform_driver. |
| 21:10.30 | goxboxlive | ok, then we are up 2 date, right? |
| 21:11.43 | cr2 | i think yes, but something is still broken. |
| 21:11.58 | cr2 | try to remove IR and OHCI. |
| 21:12.16 | cr2 | from the kernel config, and resume. |
| 21:12.26 | pH5 | cr2: OHCI doesn't have proper suspend/resume support, but it never stopped sus/resume from working on the magician |
| 21:12.50 | pH5 | and IR was fixed by paul today or yesterday |
| 21:14.28 | cr2 | pH5: i don't have "visible" non-platform_device drivers now. |
| 21:15.11 | cr2 | pH5: i have abstracted the htcuniversal_ts2.c to the most extent i could. have a look. |
| 21:15.41 | cr2 | but it still needs pxa2xx-spi as a parent. |
| 21:29.09 | pH5 | cr2: are you still using char/sa1100-rtc ? |
| 21:31.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: No, removing irda and OCHI didnt help that either. |
| 21:32.05 | psokolovsky | cr2, and was pxa2xx-spi fixed? |
| 21:32.29 | pH5 | wasn't pxa2xx-spi a platform driver from the beginning? |
| 21:33.10 | cr2 | pH5: sa1100-rtc ? i think yes. |
| 21:33.29 | cr2 | i wish there was pxa27x-rtc |
| 21:33.32 | pH5 | the char one is a device_driver :-/ |
| 21:33.37 | pH5 | cr2: write it! |
| 21:33.47 | cr2 | audio first :) |
| 21:34.11 | cr2 | goxboxlive: try to remove sa1100-rtc |
| 21:34.16 | cr2 | GPIOB10 S 0 EXT_IRQ 3302911 |
| 21:34.17 | cr2 | GPIOA3 S 1 EARPHONE_PWR 3302926 |
| 21:34.23 | pH5 | cr2: :-) |
| 21:34.44 | cr2 | hmm. what does htc mean under ext_irq ? |
| 21:34.55 | cr2 | i think it is available on all htc phones. |
| 21:35.13 | psokolovsky | pH5, pxa2xx-spi was *not* platform_driver yesterday. |
| 21:35.21 | cr2 | it's some signal from BB that leads to big audio switching. |
| 21:35.36 | cr2 | and it's not handled now at all. |
| 21:35.47 | pH5 | hey lkcl, thanks for updating soc |
| 21:35.49 | psokolovsky | pH5, the char one is deprecated, noone should use it now, until further invetsigation is taken place ;-I |
| 21:36.04 | pH5 | psokolovsky: pxa2xx-spi is a platform_driver in my vanilla 2.6.19 tree at least |
| 21:36.39 | pH5 | and in 2.6.18, too |
| 21:36.45 | psokolovsky | pH5, oops, yeah |
| 21:37.00 | psokolovsky | pH5, sorry, did grep on "platform_bus_type" ;-) |
| 21:37.43 | pH5 | yeah, I made that mistake, too, at first :) |
| 21:37.52 | psokolovsky | æ-) |
| 21:37.55 | psokolovsky | ;-) |
| 21:38.49 | psokolovsky | pH5, so any quick ideas what to do with rtc stuff? |
| 21:38.51 | lkcl | pH5: no problem |
| 21:40.03 | goxboxlive | cr2: removing sa1100-rtc made it resume. But keyborad is still broken |
| 21:40.05 | pH5 | psokolovsky: is there an issue with drivers/rtc/rtc-sa1100.c? |
| 21:41.08 | psokolovsky | pH5, yes, it's incorrect per RTC framework. it's actually a copy of char/ one |
| 21:41.37 | psokolovsky | pH5, my plan would be: resurrect mainline version of drivers/rtc/rtc-sa1100.c, and ask everyone use it |
| 21:42.33 | psokolovsky | pH5, then fix char/ version just in case, and then let people test rtc/. then, ask Todd what changes and why he did to char/, then, port any changes to rtc/. |
| 21:42.45 | goxboxlive | cr2: and also usb0 is not resuming either. |
| 21:42.57 | pH5 | psokolovsky: yes, let's do that. |
| 21:43.36 | lkcl | psokolovsky: would rtc being broken explain why any use of msleep in any resume function, on htcsable, results in resume hanging? |
| 21:43.56 | psokolovsky | pH5, caveat: someone will need to test that RTC will work after all that ;-). I don't have time for that now, so that's why I didn't post RFC for that on k-d |
| 21:44.27 | psokolovsky | lkcl, I doubt that. rtc is rtc, optional device. |
| 21:44.31 | lkcl | ok. |
| 21:44.44 | lkcl | i feel slightly clueless... |
| 21:45.27 | psokolovsky | lkcl, me too, that's why I discuss it here, and would like other people check it before making any big changes |
| 21:46.01 | goxboxlive | cr2: i think maybe usb0 is resuming. There might be a setup i am using on my laptop. Beacuse the universal detects when i replugg the USB cable, and if i do a ifup usb0 on my laptop ssh in ti universal works again. |
| 21:46.02 | pH5 | lkcl: I'm more than slightly clueless here. what clock does msleep use? perhaps something went wrong in the early clock configuration? |
| 21:46.26 | lkcl | msleep uses schedule_timeout |
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| 21:47.25 | pH5 | lkcl: could you see where exactly it hangs? |
| 21:47.34 | lkcl | which uses setup_timer() __mod_timer() schedule() and... |
| 21:48.00 | goxboxlive | cr2: well i had to replugg the usb cable to bring up a new ssh session. |
| 21:48.27 | lkcl | pH5: well, i suppose i could add in a static variable indicating whether suspend has occurred, then use the 'vibrate' trick again - but after spending several days trying to find it i got pretty tired of digging into the issue |
| 21:48.42 | lkcl | so i've given it a rest for a bit |
| 21:50.02 | pH5 | I see. At least this way you've got time to clean up asoc in cvs :) |
| 21:50.15 | psokolovsky | Gentlemen, I aslo woul like to remind that we have kernel status page, http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/KernelStatus |
| 21:50.30 | psokolovsky | If found and confirmed issue, please add it there |
| 21:50.46 | psokolovsky | if later it is resolved, please remove/mark it as such ;-) |
| 21:51.46 | cr2 | psokolovsky: good idea. |
| 21:51.53 | pH5 | as always |
| 21:51.58 | cr2 | :) |
| 21:53.17 | cr2 | hmm. whi raises this ext_irq ... |
| 21:53.23 | cr2 | s/whi/why/ |
| 21:53.50 | cr2 | pH5: do you have ext_irq ? |
| 22:00.01 | pH5 | ext_irq as in irq from the cpld chip? |
| 22:01.02 | pH5 | the cpld irqs trigger on SD/earphone/AC plugin/removal |
| 22:03.16 | cr2 | hmm. so your ext_irq is the cpld mux ? i think it is SYSINTR ? |
| 22:04.09 | cr2 | ok. i'll try 32bit spi. |
| 22:04.40 | pH5 | I don't know the terms ext_irq and SYSINTR. |
| 22:06.17 | cr2 | strings nk.exe |
| 22:09.52 | pH5 | "CPLD: SYSINTR_EARPHONE" is the only occurence of any of this, so it seems to be SYSINTR, whatever that means. |
| 22:10.10 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:10.23 | cr2 | preparing to blow the ts :) |
| 22:10.54 | pH5 | cr2: good luck |
| 22:12.00 | cr2 | hmm. does not work. |
| 22:13.15 | cr2 | number_of_entries_in_fifo = ((ssrval >> 12) & 0xf) + 1; |
| 22:13.25 | cr2 | this one is non-obvious for me. |
| 22:19.32 | cr2 | hmm. i get samples from /dev/input/event0 |
| 22:21.15 | cr2 | 1300 -25000, -16000 10000 |
| 22:21.26 | cr2 | bounding box. why is that ? |
| 22:23.07 | cr2 | ah. i need to scale them down. |
| 22:23.40 | pH5 | number_of_entries_in_fifo = ((ssrval >> 12) & 0xf) + 1 is the RFL value, straight out of the manual |
| 22:24.39 | pH5 | g'night |
| 22:24.47 | cr2 | ok. thanks. ts_calibrate died :) |
| 22:24.51 | cr2 | good night. |
| 22:49.33 | disturbedsaint | cr2: Mind if I ask a question? |
| 22:50.20 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:50.28 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:50.29 | disturbedsaint | ohw |
| 22:50.31 | disturbedsaint | :/ |
| 22:50.41 | disturbedsaint | :P |
| 22:50.41 | cr2 | ask. |
| 22:51.02 | disturbedsaint | How many people are actively developing Xanadux/linux-ports for the HTC-devices? |
| 22:51.29 | cr2 | you can see all them here. |
| 22:51.37 | disturbedsaint | ok |
| 22:51.45 | disturbedsaint | that's way more than I thought |
| 22:52.04 | ccureau | that was different |
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| 22:53.00 | disturbedsaint | accidentally shutdown gaim :/ |
| 22:53.16 | cr2 | well, 1-2 persons per device. |
| 22:53.24 | disturbedsaint | ok |
| 22:53.52 | disturbedsaint | adds up to a lot of people :) |
| 22:54.14 | cr2 | yes, many chips are shared between the devices. |
| 22:54.56 | disturbedsaint | indead, should make the process easier |
| 22:55.36 | disturbedsaint | btw concerning that, why is it so that a lot of drivers are (hard)coded to only work on a certain device? |
| 22:55.36 | disturbedsaint | ie the driver doesn't work on another device using the same hardware? |
| 22:56.22 | cr2 | everybody tries to make it work on his own device first. |
| 22:56.22 | ccureau | depends |
| 22:56.53 | cr2 | and htc changes the gpio/irq/port randomly between the devices. don't know why. |
| 22:57.00 | ccureau | for instance, same driver would probably work for touchscreen on tornado and wizard, but gpio on wizard is different |
| 22:57.14 | ccureau | keyboard driver is the same on both |
| 22:57.17 | disturbedsaint | ok |
| 22:57.25 | disturbedsaint | I see |
| 22:57.32 | Ralith | cr2, to make life hard on reverse-engineering efforts? :P |
| 22:57.59 | disturbedsaint | at least not to make it easier :P |
| 22:58.14 | cr2 | no. to make reusing wince drivers hard . |
| 22:58.18 | Ralith | cr2, what's the status of Universal DoC drivers? |
| 22:59.17 | cr2 | somebody should cleanup the c code by lkcl, and check if it can read the bootloader through /dev/mem |
| 22:59.26 | cr2 | this one is relatively easy. |
| 22:59.57 | Ralith | so it's pretty much all but done? |
| 23:00.02 | cr2 | disturbedsaint: this one is the best example http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Serial |
| 23:00.46 | cr2 | Ralith: if you'll compare to DoC G2 , the driver for G3 is non-existent. |
| 23:01.20 | Ralith | cr2, er, which is the Universal on? |
| 23:01.26 | cr2 | G3 |
| 23:01.46 | Ralith | about how much effort is it likely to take to get it working? |
| 23:02.04 | Ralith | also, by chance, is there any help a relatively inexperienced C coder such as I might be able to offer, be it there or elsewhere |
| 23:02.20 | cr2 | the "free" docs are incomplete, so it's hard. |
| 23:02.58 | cr2 | everything with - here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_DiskOnChip is not documented. |
| 23:03.24 | cr2 | but used in the code. |
| 23:05.53 | cr2 | the hardware part is complex reverse-engineering. |
| 23:06.44 | disturbedsaint | cr2: I see, the implementation/connect of the part is just different per device |
| 23:06.45 | cr2 | the software part (SAFTL) requires some serious knowledge of certain fields in the mathematics |
| 23:07.00 | cr2 | but i think we will not implement SAFTL. |
| 23:07.36 | Ralith | what's lost by not implementing that? |
| 23:07.50 | cr2 | wince compatibility |
| 23:08.07 | cr2 | your can't mount wince partition then. |
| 23:08.14 | cr2 | if you'll have one :) |
| 23:08.16 | Ralith | but you can overwrite it? |
| 23:08.17 | ccureau | ugh |
| 23:08.23 | cr2 | yes. |
| 23:08.47 | Ralith | what /is/ SAFTL, then? Some kind of security? |
| 23:08.50 | cr2 | it's you. |
| 23:09.08 | Ralith | ? |
| 23:09.10 | cr2 | no. SequentialAccess translation layer. |
| 23:09.30 | Ralith | I'm just not understanding how you can read/write but not be able to read/write the existing wince data |
| 23:09.37 | cr2 | flash translation layer. on SD/CF it is done in hardware |
| 23:09.55 | cr2 | linux does it with jffs2 |
| 23:10.17 | Ralith | ah, so it's just a different method. |
| 23:10.29 | Ralith | kinda like a different filesystem but lower level, correct? |
| 23:10.37 | cr2 | the wince data is stored on a tricky "filesystem" |
| 23:10.40 | cr2 | yes. |
| 23:10.46 | Ralith | got it, thanks :0 |
| 23:10.48 | Ralith | :)* |
| 23:11.09 | ccureau | if the filesystem work is done in hardware, though, doesn't it seem that there would be a higher level interface to the filesystem? |
| 23:11.12 | ccureau | hooks, at least? |
| 23:11.24 | cr2 | the G2 uses INFTL. |
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| 23:11.42 | cr2 | SD/CF ? no, you still work on a block layer. |
| 23:12.15 | cr2 | m-sys hardcoded DOS fat on top of it ;) |
| 23:12.26 | Ralith | :P |
| 23:12.33 | Ralith | yay for outdated filesystems |
| 23:12.53 | ccureau | the DoC uses that method as well? |
| 23:12.58 | cr2 | wince/dos boot compatibility. |
| 23:13.52 | cr2 | there are a lot of dumb outdated concepts implemented in DoC software. |
| 23:14.08 | cr2 | 4 partitions, for example. and fat. |
| 23:14.13 | Ralith | -_- |
| 23:14.29 | ccureau | backwards compatibility bites again |
| 23:14.33 | Ralith | oh, by the way, does the Universal have any sort of media acceleration? |
| 23:14.41 | cr2 | and it's closed source on top. also on linux. |
| 23:14.53 | cr2 | no, it's plain pxafb. |
| 23:15.11 | cr2 | for video. |
| 23:15.59 | Ralith | alright. |
| 23:18.21 | cr2 | good night. |
| 23:18.26 | Ralith | night |
| 23:18.28 | Ralith | thanks for the info |
| 23:24.35 | disturbedsaint | thx indeed |
| 23:25.07 | disturbedsaint | btw just like Ralith I'd like to help as much as I can though I'm not really any good @ coding :) |
| 23:27.47 | disturbedsaint | somehow thats seems quiet logical :P |
| 23:28.38 | ccureau | :D |
| 23:31.34 | Ralith | :P |
| 23:31.45 | Ralith | I have but one thing to say: yay for ebay. |
| 23:32.17 | ccureau | off until tomorrow... |
| 23:32.36 | ccureau | and I must say: very informative channel...even for Wizard owners. :D |
| 23:33.59 | WizMaui_ | yehaw Wizard ;) |
| 23:34.12 | disturbedsaint | wizzard = too big ;) |
| 23:34.22 | WizMaui_ | nah |
| 23:34.27 | WizMaui_ | gn8 everyone ;) |
| 23:34.42 | disturbedsaint | bye |
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| 23:45.33 | disturbedsaint | im off too |
| 23:45.35 | disturbedsaint | bye! |
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