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00:43.15Kevin2Hi
01:02.25lkclallo Kevin2.  am outta here.
01:02.28lkclnight all
01:02.33lkcllong day...
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05:26.57lkclok.  the reason why the damn timer is screwed is, i believe, because the location where the sable is resuming is NOT back into pxa_pm_enter() for it to finish off restoring the GPIOs, CKEN, ICMR _or_ the current time (restore_time_delta())
05:26.58lkclargh.
05:27.36lkclhow it manages to skip all that lot i really don't know.
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16:50.51goxboxlivehi
16:52.25cr2goxboxlive: hi
16:52.33cr2it's silent today.
16:53.08goxboxliverealy
16:53.23cr2i think i have found the codec_reset pin yesterday. it's gpiob1, but i need to test it.
16:53.38goxboxliveI tried out your new kernel source today at work.
16:53.47goxboxliveOK, good
16:53.49cr2works for me.
16:53.53goxboxlivefor me to
16:53.56goxboxlivebut
16:53.57cr2the keyboard does not resume
16:54.02goxboxlivei know
16:54.17goxboxliveand the pad doesnt work
16:54.21cr2are there other devices using pxa27x keyboard ?
16:54.26cr2mainstone ?
16:54.29goxboxliveyes
16:54.39cr2where is the full source ?
16:54.41goxboxliveleft-right-up.down-and select
16:54.54goxboxlivebut they are listed in interupts
16:55.41goxboxliveNd i dont get any events when i hit the FN key, so maybe they are realted
16:55.51cr2motorola/ti/montavista have much useful code. not always well written, though. and for the kernel 2.4 usually.
16:56.12cr2Fn is key reserved. imho == disabled
16:57.05goxboxliveOk, we have to make it work somehow, because it will be useles in the shell. We need thoose missing signs.
16:57.47goxboxliveDid you edit your opie file to get the keyboard work in Opie?
17:00.46cr2i have not tested opie.
17:01.08cr2are the keyboard tools included in the image ?
17:01.22cr2loadkeys and so on ?
17:01.41cr2i hope they are portable.
17:02.16goxboxlivei dont know if loadkeys are included, i have to check
17:03.13cr2console-tools-0.3.2-r2
17:03.34cr2my opie compilation fails in sqlite3.
17:03.55cr2because of a missing -pthread flag ?
17:04.09goxboxlivethe try to build sqlite
17:04.20goxboxliveyes, loadkeys are included
17:04.43cr2ok, then what should be the "pc104" name for the Fn key ?
17:04.50goxboxlivecr2: there one more thing i would like to have working.
17:05.08cr2what?
17:05.43goxboxliveThe clock should be synced during bootup. Is there a way we can do it during boot wiyhout network connection?
17:06.35goxboxliveIs thererdware clock or something?
17:06.35cr2i have seen the failed ntpdate
17:06.36babelouedhi
17:06.36cr2imho there should be an RTC.
17:06.36goxboxliveYes, but's ok since ntpdate search for an timeserver
17:06.48cr2there is a small watch-style battery soldered in the motherboard.
17:07.05cr2i hate bootup failure messages ;)
17:07.14goxboxlive:-)
17:07.16babelouedgoxboxlive to update your clock, sometimes there is a AT command that return your network provider time
17:07.21cr2it will fail in 90% of cases.
17:07.53goxboxliveok
17:08.04cr2babeloued: i think it's the pxa that sends AT@ command with time to BB on universal.
17:08.22cr2once per minute of something like that.
17:09.25goxboxlivecr2: I have also thought of something else. You are talking about the sound problem is on a higher level.
17:09.40cr2yes, AT@SYSTEMTIME= once per minute.
17:09.47goxboxliveBut as far as i can remember, we had the same problem with .12
17:10.11babelouedOn my old ericsson phone there is a command that take time from orange network to update current phone time
17:10.17babelouedcr2 ok
17:10.23cr2goxboxlive: the sound switching is done by i2c/ak4641.c now, i think it's not enough on a phone.
17:11.02cr2babeloued: is it a standart AT command ?
17:11.32cr2i2c/ak4641.c is too dumb to know about the phone specifics, and the BT headset.
17:11.41goxboxliveBut we had the same problem, there where the same buzz with the ticks that came from the main speakers, and you rewrite something and suddenly it worked.
17:11.46cr2i don't know if asoc will solve it.
17:12.08goxboxliveI'll can look trough the logs and see if it's right
17:12.14cr2goxboxlive: you can lookup all CVS changes on sf.net
17:12.19babelouedas fa i can remember it is similar to command you write few day ago, like *#31# and on motorola i read an AT command to do this
17:12.45cr2isn't *#31# a sim toolkit command ?
17:12.50goxboxlivei will, and then check the irc log
17:12.59cr2i'm not actually an expert in this field :)
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17:21.19goxboxlivehmm the irc doesnt go that far back
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17:25.28lkclallo darlins
17:25.38lkclvery sorry: my broadband got disconnected
17:25.46lkclborrowing next door's wireless... oops
17:26.32babelouedcr2 AT+CCLK is supported by HTC ?
17:28.50babelouedcr2 : the big AT command book :) http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/gprs_at.pdf
17:29.04cr2babeloued: htc_gsm wiki page
17:30.57cr2lol http://www.microsoft.com/msj/0799/wincekernel/wincekernel.aspx
17:31.20cr2<PROTECTED>
17:31.20cr2Building on a feature added in Windows CE 2.11, Windows CE 2.12 will gain a level of protection from malicious programmers.
17:32.09babeloued:)
17:32.12cr2that's right. wince3.0+ always runs in kernel mode.
17:35.51cr2goxboxlive: i'd like to add the codec reset. can you compile and check it ?
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17:37.57goxboxliveyes of course, but what does it do?
17:39.05cr2adds the codec reset gpio.
17:39.27babeloued*#76# COLP check status
17:39.31babeloued:)
17:40.39goxboxliveok
17:40.57babelouedcr2 : you have some on my pdf link :)
17:41.45cr2babelued: ok.
17:42.59cr2goxbxolive: done.
17:44.10cr2ok, so it's GSM techinical spec 2.20
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17:44.42babelouedyes, there is a lot of usefull information for a qphone app :)
17:47.28cr2first i'd like to see how qtopia maps the buttons.
17:47.46cr2goxboxlive: does your sound still work ? :)
17:48.14goxboxlivecr2: i havent compiled it yet
17:57.24goxboxlivecr2: No sound doesnt work, not HP nor main. But this happend yesterday, before the recent updates
17:58.17goxboxlivethe mic is also dead
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18:00.10cr2hmm.
18:00.44goxboxliveDoes the sound work on your device? You havent tried the latest update.
18:00.52goxboxliveCheck to see if i am right.
18:13.02scatterpgoxboxlive want me to test ?
18:20.40goxboxlivescatterp: But you dont have the yesterdays kernel image.
18:24.33goxboxlivescatterp: You can try out the opie-image and zImage with the date 20061127, but they dont have the keyboard split. So i guess sound where working in it. But just to be sure you can try out with your headphones.
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18:29.03jjazzIf I buy a universal, do I need to buy a version that has been unlocked?
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18:30.13TripleDESjjazz: there is a free unlocker around...
18:31.03jjazzTripleDES: Is the lock a software property that gets circumvented when I move to Linux?
18:33.37TripleDEShmm I don't know for sure cause mine was unlocked but I guess it's permanent
18:33.38jjazzCool.
18:40.06cr2jjazz: it has nothing do do with linux. BB is a separate computer.
18:40.19jjazzcr2: BB?
18:40.26cr2baseband.
18:40.29cr2the phone.
18:41.02jjazzcr2: Ah.  Gotcha.
18:41.09cr2you have two "computers" in a usual pda phone.
18:41.23cr2and they communicate with each other.
18:41.32jjazzMakes sense.
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18:49.11cr2i guess these "open source" type guys simply do not get it:
18:49.15cr2http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000341.html
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18:52.39jjazzWhat aren't they getting?
18:54.47cr2they want to sell the time and orbit position data. i just don't believe how lkcl has pissed them off :D
18:55.59cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SableGPS
18:56.42cr2somebody should post the link to the openmoko mailing list ;-)
18:57.07jjazzHeh.
18:57.41rob_wcr2, why ?
18:59.59cr2rob_w: they use the same chipset. look in the logs to see what lkcl thinks about globallocate after he asked them about the tech docs.
19:00.20rob_waso
19:03.45Fossieh, what did he expect, other than a fuck you?
19:05.27cr2Fossi: i could understand if the answer was exactly what you say.
19:06.11cr2but they really tried to convince him that he does not need it.
19:06.20Fossiyeah, well, the ban was a bit weird as well ;D
19:06.41cr2i want an old hw6515 now.
19:08.00cr2i can try to separate the pseudorange from the gsm data.
19:08.14cr2imho, they don't do anything really ambitious.
19:09.02cr2just want to squeeze a bit of cash from gullible consumers ;)
19:12.24rob_wsome paste me "that piss off " , please
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19:20.02goxboxlivecr2: What have you done with the sounddriver.
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19:22.49isrra_woah, people are still here?
19:25.56cr2goxboxlive: when ?
19:26.24goxboxlivei dont know, it hasent worked since yesterday
19:26.43cr2CVS diff ?
19:26.44goxboxliveTry it on your image you tested yesterday, without todays changes
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19:30.24cr2lkcl: with some effort you'll have linux on hermes.
19:34.50cr2goxboxlive: this the only sound-related change
19:34.55cr2--- sound/arm/htcuniversal_audio.c      26 Nov 2006 22:14:29 -0000      1.9
19:34.59cr2+++ sound/arm/htcuniversal_audio.c      28 Nov 2006 17:42:44 -0000      1.10
19:35.03cr2@@ -47,7 +47,7 @@
19:35.07cr2<PROTECTED>
19:35.11cr2<PROTECTED>
19:35.11cr2<PROTECTED>
19:35.11cr2-//     SET_HX4700_GPIO_N( CODEC_PDN, mode );
19:35.12cr2+       asic3_set_gpio_out_b(&htcuniversal_asic3.dev, 1<<GPIOB_CODEC_PDN , mode?0:(1<<GPIOB_CODEC_PDN));
19:35.12cr2<PROTECTED>
19:35.20RavenIIAnyone know if apache will ever run linux nicely?
19:35.48cr2RavenII: ask Kevin2, or help him
19:35.56RavenIIKevin2: Hi
19:36.01RavenIIcr2: thanks.
19:36.23goxboxlivecr2: Hmm why does it suddenly not work.
19:37.48cr2goxboxlive: if you comment out this line, does it help ?
19:37.58goxboxliveI tried sound on sunday, it worked. But now, nothing, and i tried it yesterday and it didnt wokred wither. Could you boot your (without todays changes) and just check yours.
19:41.49cr2where is / _
19:41.52cr2?
19:42.48cr2and ctrl
19:43.03goxboxlivectrl is the one beside the FN
19:44.04goxboxliveUnderscore is the one left of = ( the next last one on the top.
19:45.15goxboxlive'/ doesnt work because of the missing FN key
19:45.17cr2slash
19:45.19cr2ok.
19:45.56cr2then i need export PATH=.
19:46.03cr2then i need export PATH=.$PATH
19:46.06goxboxliveor login bia ssh
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19:55.44cr2does not work.
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19:56.48cr2goxboxlive: can you checkout the source -D "2 days ago" and check ?
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19:57.59goxboxlivehmm i dont know hoe to do that, but i can check an image i build for 2 days ago. It might have happend when moved over to hh1
19:58.36BabelOuedtu fais quoi ?
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20:03.56goxboxlivecr2: Or could it be that the htcuniversal_defconfig where updated, and something where forgotten
20:05.40cr2it was updated, but i don't see anything that can break sound.
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20:13.51goxboxlivecr2: I tried out yesterdays kernel, that was the same, no working sound. I will try 26th now.
20:18.33goxboxlivecr2: Yes, the sources 26th has working sound
20:19.13goxboxliveAnd it was buildt before your cvs changes
20:19.58goxboxliveAre you sure this is right? snd_htcuniversal_audio Shouldnt it be like this? snd-htcuniversal_audio ( notice - and not _ )
20:21.31goxboxliveSo i guess the changes in version 1.9 was the ones that broke sound
20:22.54cr2it's autogenerated
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20:23.25cr21.9? ca nyou post a ink
20:23.39goxboxlivehttp://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/sound/arm/htcuniversal_audio.c.diff?r1=1.8&r2=1.9&f=h
20:25.13goxboxlivebelow for line 73 you miss a lot of { }
20:26.54cr2the irq change was working afaik.
20:27.33cr2and then there is only gpio rename.
20:27.45goxboxlivewell, 1.8 works, 1.9 doesnt. But what about the missing { } x 2?
20:28.22cr2you can try to revert it.
20:28.28cr2are you joking ?
20:29.00goxboxliveno, thats the only thing i can see that miss.
20:29.16cr2copy the 1.8 version into the current tree and compile.
20:29.22cr2hmm.
20:29.26cr2the names.
20:29.43cr2remove MIC from the names.
20:31.28goxboxliveshouldnt this: if (hp_in)
20:31.28goxboxlive<PROTECTED>
20:31.28goxboxliveelse
20:31.28goxboxlive<PROTECTED>
20:31.28goxboxlivereturn hp_in;
20:31.31goxboxlivelook like this
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20:32.32goxboxliveif (hp_in){
20:32.32goxboxlive<PROTECTED>
20:32.32goxboxlive}else{
20:32.32goxboxlive<PROTECTED>
20:32.32goxboxlive}
20:32.33goxboxlivereturn hp_in;
20:32.43goxboxliveor doesnt it mather
20:36.39cr2aa. i know what it may be. but unlikely.
20:39.01cr2ok, the patch is for the htcuniversal.c
20:40.06cr2but don't think it will help.
20:43.24goxboxliveok
20:51.31cr2have you tried ?
20:51.54goxboxlivetried what? to revert to 1.8?
20:52.45cr2no, the latest CVS.
20:53.04goxboxliveohh, it isent ready for users yet
20:53.29goxboxliveohh now it is
20:56.15cr2please, add "auto usb" as a standard option. it makes debugging on other phones much easier.
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21:03.22goxboxlivecr2: The sound didnt work
21:04.58goxboxliveif i shall add 'auto usb' then i have to make a hack in to OE.
21:09.10lkclallo darlins
21:09.38lkcli'm borrowing my neighbour's wifi cos sky screwed up
21:11.09lkclwhat did i miss, then?
21:11.53goxboxlivelkcl: m$ has bought up linux. No more open source
21:12.04lkcloh - i found out a little bit more about what's going on with the resume: it doesn't appear to be resuming to the correct address: i'm not seeing  the right debug messages
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21:13.25lkcli knew i should have accepted that job for m$.  but it was too little money.
21:13.33goxboxlive:-)
21:14.02lkcla whacking 30% _less_ than what i was earning at the time.
21:23.17florianre
21:23.26cr2lkcl: what about your soul ?
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21:48.09goxboxlivewhat do we do with sound now? Revert to 1.8 ?
21:56.38rob_wanybody visiting SPS Drives in Nürnberg ?
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22:58.24lkclsold it a long time ago.
22:58.24lkclsorry, am back darlins
22:59.33lkclhey i got a headphone for another phone - let's do some gpio wheeeeee
23:00.29lkclgoboxlive: hit it with a hammer.
23:00.30lkclARSE.  i gotta set up a router just to get .... nggggh.
23:02.00lkclhang on... oh cool i can just about reach... maybe.... the neighbour's wifi point, direct.  maybe.... it's straining a bit :)

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