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| 09:36.31 | AlphaPi[jr] | hallo |
| 09:36.45 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 09:37.16 | AlphaPi[jr] | hi goxboxlive |
| 09:37.42 | AlphaPi[jr] | can you tell me if nbfutils can also manage ipaq firmware file? |
| 09:39.09 | goxboxlive | i I have no idea |
| 09:40.45 | AlphaPi[jr] | another question |
| 09:40.55 | AlphaPi[jr] | osloader image can be uploaded via jtag? |
| 09:41.19 | goxboxlive | Man, i have no idea. This is way over my knowledge |
| 09:41.26 | goxboxlive | Wich distro are you using? |
| 09:42.50 | AlphaPi[jr] | no distro |
| 09:43.00 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 09:43.13 | AlphaPi[jr] | i 've fucked up an ipaq 1940 trying upgrading firmware |
| 09:43.25 | AlphaPi[jr] | by hp upgrade firmware tools |
| 09:43.55 | AlphaPi[jr] | it runs the bastard-inside-exe "EnterBootLoader.exe" |
| 09:44.21 | AlphaPi[jr] | and now it is blocked onto "ipaq 1.07" bootloader screen |
| 09:45.06 | goxboxlive | ok |
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| 10:15.51 | lkcl | ipaq serial cable arrived. hurrah. |
| 10:27.24 | AlphaPi[jr] | lkcl why u neeed the ipaq serial cable? |
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| 14:13.54 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 14:29.19 | Kevin2 | Anyone awake? |
| 14:45.50 | pH5 | hey Kevin2 |
| 14:56.09 | Kevin2 | Hi pH5. |
| 14:59.20 | Kevin2 | Can you try the latest haret on the magician? It is in svn: svn://www.shadowmite.com/home/svn/ppc6700/haret |
| 15:01.07 | pH5 | gharet-20061021.patch? |
| 15:01.52 | pH5 | is there something special you'd like me to try? |
| 15:02.40 | Kevin2 | Booting linux. You can grab the exe if you don't want to compile it. |
| 15:04.16 | Kevin2 | I rewrote the linux booting code. It works on apache, but I can't test other platforms. |
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| 15:19.57 | pH5 | Kevin2: I tried to boot linux with boot2 and it reliably locks up |
| 15:20.20 | Kevin2 | Ughh. Thanks. |
| 15:20.30 | Kevin2 | Can you forward a log of the event? Do you see colored bars on the screen? |
| 15:21.16 | pH5 | I see some green and black in the middle. I'll have to look for a cable to get to a log |
| 15:21.58 | Kevin2 | You can create a log by adding "log x" to your start script. Or, you can create a file "earlyharetlog.txt" in the same directory as haret. |
| 15:22.08 | Kevin2 | Did it say "detected machine magician" at startup? |
| 15:22.44 | pH5 | yes |
| 15:25.05 | pH5 | Kevin2: Go Go Go... is the last thing I see via the haret telnet connection |
| 15:25.40 | pH5 | http://en.pastebin.ca/213652 |
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| 15:26.19 | pH5 | hi rob__w |
| 15:28.39 | rob__w | hi pH5 |
| 15:39.25 | Kevin2 | ph5: Is the magician a pxa27x cpu? |
| 15:39.54 | Kevin2 | Does it have 64M of ram? |
| 15:40.07 | pH5 | Kevin2: yes. pxa272 with 64M. |
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| 16:17.21 | Kevin2 | ph5: Can you grab the latest binary from svn and try again? |
| 16:56.47 | Kevin2 | WizMaui: Can you grab the latest haret from svn (svn://www.shadowmite.com/home/svn/ppc6700/haret) and try booting linux again on the Wizard? If it doesn't work, try creating a file "earlyharetlog.txt" in the same directory as the haret exe, and then post "haretlog.txt" to pastebin.ca |
| 16:57.57 | pH5 | Kevin2: I see yellow, blue, red, cyan and a black line, and it hangs. |
| 16:59.57 | pH5 | http://en.pastebin.ca/213786 |
| 17:02.37 | Kevin2 | pH5: Thanks. Dumb question - are you sure your zImage is good? We got much further this time. The only thing left after that color sequence is the jump to Linux. |
| 17:04.17 | pH5 | Kevin2: Yes, I'm quite sure about that. It boots fine with xanadux cvs gnuharet. |
| 17:05.40 | Kevin2 | Okay. Thanks. I'll look again. |
| 17:06.40 | WizMaui | ok...will try it too |
| 17:06.40 | WizMaui | once i can find my wizard ;) |
| 17:06.42 | WizMaui | time to tidy my room up |
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| 17:12.31 | Kevin2 | Hi goxboxlive: Can you run a haret test? (Grab latest haret from svn at svn://www.shadowmite.com/home/svn/ppc6700/haret and try to boot linux.) |
| 17:13.56 | goxboxlive | Hi Kevin2. I have to do that later. Have to put my child to bed first |
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| 17:23.51 | pH5 | btw, is anybody actively working on htc hermes? |
| 17:41.00 | lkcl | AlphaPi[jr] - just in case you check the logs: i need the serial cable because when trying to boot linux on the ipaq hw6915, i get nothing on-screen. the serial cable allows me to run the console on serial - and thereby get some lovely debug info. or actually start writing debug info out - by hand - if i get really desperate |
| 17:41.19 | lkcl | back later darlings.. |
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| 17:46.03 | Kevin2 | pH5: I put a new binary in svn. This latest version disables the BTB. I'm not very hopeful it will fix your problem, however. |
| 18:16.41 | cr2 | Kevin2: hi. your patch is really huge. what do you think about applying it in pieces ? |
| 18:17.34 | cr2 | lkcl: you should find out how and which serial ports are used, before you'll be able to debug over serial :) |
| 18:21.44 | pH5 | hey cr2, how is the universal phone coming along? |
| 18:23.29 | cr2 | pH5: it's an extremely complex thing to control ;-) i'm already thinking about looking at the radio control code itself. given some more time... |
| 18:24.44 | cr2 | i can probably clone the bootloader behaviour and will be able to talk AT, but it will only shift the problems one step further. |
| 18:25.30 | cr2 | btw, you can grab the latest haret, and check your IR and RIL code too. |
| 18:26.16 | cr2 | hmm. do you know your RIL_devspecific functions ? i fear that 51 is universal-specific |
| 18:26.35 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=rilgsm.dll |
| 18:26.38 | cr2 | at the bottom |
| 18:29.08 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have tried to send you the opie image yesterday, but you don't accept 25MB e-mails ;) we need to find another way. |
| 18:29.44 | cr2 | asylumed: what about putting the blueangel patches in the hh.org CVS ? |
| 19:06.15 | pH5 | Kevin2: as you expected, your last binary still shows the same problem. |
| 19:06.26 | pH5 | cr2: how do I use the new IR / RIL code in haret? |
| 19:10.31 | goxboxlive | cr2: I have tested autodim and sleep. Non of them are working even with the new backlight driver. The sleep function did go to sleep, but it wouldnt wake up. Had to do a soft reset. |
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| 19:17.10 | asylumed | cr2: i'm keen... where? and who could i get to have a look over them? (since i'm rather new to this?) |
| 19:18.35 | asylumed | rob_w: seems you can be flicker to stop in the new w100 driver by tweaking some values... |
| 19:18.52 | asylumed | s/be/get/ |
| 19:20.02 | pH5 | asylumed: If you want more people to look at them, you can always send to them kernel-discuss@handhelds.org |
| 19:20.39 | asylumed | thx... will do... |
| 19:24.08 | cr2 | pH5: you open two telnet connections, run the commands 'irctl 1' 'irctl 0' 'tstril' and run wgpio in the other session. |
| 19:24.56 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have added the sleep (htcuniversal_pm.c) driver to hh.org CVS, but it's not linked into the kernel insfrastructure. |
| 19:25.14 | cr2 | so it will not really wake up. |
| 19:25.40 | rob_w | asylumed, which values ? |
| 19:26.22 | cr2 | asylumed: you can post them somewhere. are you planning to do some more hardware tracing ? |
| 19:27.50 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have traced the both camera gpios. the big camera is relatively simple. the small one has a flipping gpio, it will probably require some disassembling to understand it's function. |
| 19:29.03 | asylumed | rob_w: .pll_freq and .pixclk_divider |
| 19:29.31 | rob_w | strangly i didnt found values differing from the .12 driver to .16 |
| 19:29.32 | asylumed | rob_w: not totally gone, but *greatly* reduced... |
| 19:30.28 | rob_w | i was able to remove it totally by backporting the w100fb to .12 .. so i assumed it is a combination on how the w100fb calculates the lcd sizes |
| 19:30.30 | asylumed | rob_w: yeah, noticed it too but i've see a discussion about it somewhere and tried the values that they suggested |
| 19:31.31 | rob_w | but thats great news maybe now we can find the difference between .12 and .16 better and make it nativly work. 16 then could bring us 3d support !! |
| 19:32.01 | asylumed | rob_w: keef |
| 19:33.18 | rob_w | people improved the .16 w100fb massivly .. i would love to leverage that .. maybe then we could great a nice fancy ui on such devices |
| 19:33.26 | asylumed | rob_w: although, since the resume functions have been merged, i'm puzzeled on how to get the chips to enable in order properly... :( |
| 19:34.04 | rob_w | sorry i need to go for today |
| 19:36.11 | cr2 | asylumed: what are the capabilities of the w100fb driver ? |
| 19:36.35 | asylumed | cr2: haven't looked into it fully i'm afraid... |
| 19:36.49 | cr2 | is it capable of hw portrait/landscape switching ? IDCT ? video grab ? |
| 19:37.04 | cr2 | what 3D does rob_w mean ??? |
| 19:37.23 | asylumed | cr2: hehe, not entirely sure/convinced yet... |
| 19:37.43 | goxboxlive | cr2: Ok camera sounds fun, and the sleep driver, why dont you link it? |
| 19:38.23 | cr2 | btw, you can try to catch the reads/writes to the control registers with haret's 'wi' |
| 19:38.29 | pH5 | cr2: do I need an inserted sim card for the ril test? it fails with "DSRIL: error 183". |
| 19:39.08 | cr2 | goxboxlive: because i'm completely overloaded with other things ;) |
| 19:39.24 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 19:40.31 | cr2 | pH5: does ril_initialize cause some gpio action ? DSRIL means an error from the "devspecific" function to send and arbitrary AT command to the phone. do you have this function ? |
| 19:41.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the "linking" is rather generic, it should be the same as in the h4000 code. |
| 19:41.42 | Kevin2 | cr2: I can break the patch up, but if the Linux boot doesn't work, there isn't much point in doing it. (Work on other platforms, it works fine for me.) |
| 19:42.17 | Kevin2 | In order to get the easy stuff in, I can break the patch into two parts - the cleanup stuff, and the linboot stuff. |
| 19:42.21 | goxboxlive | ok, wich files do i need to compare? |
| 19:43.24 | Kevin2 | cr2: Can you try the latest haret from svn on Universal? I'm curious if it works like Apache, or hangs at the sample place as Magician. |
| 19:44.06 | pH5 | cr2: there is no gpio activity, and I didn't spend enough time reading the rilgsm disassembly to know about the devspecific function yet |
| 19:44.27 | pH5 | Kevin2: I think it's not your patch - I just noticed that current cvs hangs, too. |
| 19:44.38 | pH5 | My working version was from sept.16 |
| 19:45.04 | cr2 | Kevin2: ok. i'll try |
| 19:45.44 | cr2 | pH5: if you phone is not (just) working, you can't avoid studying the rilgsm.dll... |
| 19:49.30 | cr2 | pH5: have you seen that the demo IDA version works in wine ? |
| 19:52.23 | pH5 | cr2: right about that rilgsm.dll. I wish it wouldn't take such an awful amount of time to understand anything. |
| 19:53.06 | pH5 | cr2: IDA, did you try it yet? |
| 19:54.20 | Kevin2 | pH5: Your last checkout from CVS was on 20060915? Or is that the version from the exe? |
| 19:54.31 | cr2 | Kevin2: dead after GOGOGO. the "color stripes" look very strange. |
| 19:54.57 | Kevin2 | What colors do you see? |
| 19:55.22 | cr2 | 20061021112* |
| 19:56.09 | pH5 | Kevin2: the 20060916 build (and I think I always updated before building) works, the 20061021 one doesn't. |
| 19:56.27 | Kevin2 | cr2: You used gnuharet-200610211341.exe? |
| 19:56.45 | cr2 | i have the narrow magenta+something at +32000 pixels as usual, then the black wide stripe in the middle ? with some small pixels inside. |
| 19:57.19 | cr2 | the dpi is very fine on universal, so i can't tell you the single pixel color. |
| 19:58.05 | cr2 | yes. gnuharet-200610211341.exe |
| 19:59.18 | cr2 | pH5: i have tried, and it works. but you can't save the output, maybe only make a screenshot ;) and there is a time limit, don't know of what nature. the output looks very good. |
| 19:59.41 | cr2 | i have tested it on the nk.exe |
| 20:00.58 | pH5 | cr2: that sounds tedious but promising :) |
| 20:01.08 | Kevin2 | pH5 - the only thing noteworthy I can see in that time frame is the '-O' flags was added to the build. |
| 20:02.52 | cr2 | pH5: maybe cut and paste works, but i'm not a windows expert ;) |
| 20:03.28 | Kevin2 | cr2: The black wide stripe is probably the preloader. It gets copied to the top of ram which is where your fb is. Does the magenta stripe come anywhere near the black one? |
| 20:04.25 | cr2 | no. the screen is 480x640, so you can guess where is the middle. |
| 20:05.45 | cr2 | i don't know if my fb is really contiguous on the cpu address bus. |
| 20:06.25 | cr2 | one part is in the pxa SRAM and the other one at the end of RAM. |
| 20:06.53 | cr2 | lkcl was speculating about some possible asic bus translator, but i don't know. |
| 20:06.58 | Kevin2 | Is your screen 16bit color? |
| 20:07.05 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:07.11 | cr2 | i think all of them are. |
| 20:07.25 | cr2 | otherwise m$ will have problems ;) |
| 20:07.42 | Kevin2 | 640*480*2 == 614400 which should fit in the 1M page set aside for your fb.. |
| 20:08.08 | cr2 | SRAM works faster. |
| 20:08.35 | cr2 | so they decided to use a "combined" fb. |
| 20:08.50 | cr2 | SRAM alone is too small for 480x640. |
| 20:09.07 | cr2 | but it is used on all 240x320 and 240x240 phones. |
| 20:10.49 | pH5 | Kevin2: thanks for that hint, after removing -O from gnuwince.smak, the kernel boots again |
| 20:14.16 | Kevin2 | pH5: That is a bit scary.. |
| 20:14.42 | Kevin2 | cr2: I've pushed a new binary to svn. This one has bigger lines. :-) Now they go for 2500 pixels. |
| 20:20.55 | cr2 | now it works :) |
| 20:21.43 | Kevin2 | *boggle* |
| 20:42.02 | Kevin2 | pH5: I dropped a non optimized binary on svn if you want to try that one. |
| 20:42.15 | pH5 | Kevin2: thanks, I'll try |
| 20:48.58 | pH5 | hm.. gnuharet-200610211611.exe has the long coloured stripes, but it still hangs |
| 20:51.50 | Kevin2 | Did you try: gnuharet-noopt.exe ? |
| 20:53.23 | pH5 | whoops, I missed that one. one min.. |
| 20:53.29 | Kevin2 | To confirm - you see yellow, blue, red, cyan, black? |
| 20:53.46 | pH5 | yes |
| 20:54.29 | pH5 | ok, gnuharet-noopt boots. there is a very short delay visible after red now. |
| 20:57.23 | Kevin2 | After red is when we relocate the kernel, so the slower memcpy without optimization makes sense. |
| 20:57.43 | Kevin2 | I'm really confused why optimization would change the boot for you.. |
| 20:59.23 | pH5 | Kevin2: I remember being equally confused by the erratic boot behaviour before haret learned to stop pxa27x dma properly. |
| 20:59.59 | Kevin2 | I was just thinking that. Maybe we aren't ensuring that all DMA has completed. The slower bootup might be hiding this. |
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| 22:21.27 | Kevin2 | pH5: I dropped a new binary in svn: gnuharet-200610211819.exe -- this one alters the dma shutdown to confirm the descriptors have stopped before continuing. It also has -O back on. |
| 22:26.16 | pH5 | Kevin2: unfortunately that didn't help :-/ |
| 22:33.24 | Kevin2 | Still get all the colors? |
| 22:34.30 | Kevin2 | Oh well, I can't think of anything that would work on my cpu but somehow fail on yours. I guess we could put a one second sleep in there just to see if it is timing related. |
| 22:43.52 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. I reverted my dma changes and added a new version that adds a delay (long - could be 10 seconds). It is in svn. You should see the green bar for a good long time, and then see the rest. |
| 22:44.27 | Kevin2 | pH5: If this doesn't work, you may have to live without optimized binaries. |
| 22:44.45 | pH5 | Kevin2: yeah, I still saw all the colors. I'll try the delayed version now. |
| 22:46.55 | pH5 | no way. locked up again. |
| 22:48.55 | Kevin2 | You saw all the colors? There was a notable delay after green? |
| 22:50.28 | Kevin2 | pH5 - you don't use an initrd, right? |
| 22:51.19 | pH5 | Kevin2: yes, yes, and yes. |
| 22:56.39 | pH5 | btw, the new binaries don't work on the hx4700 either because of a missing library, most probably RIL.dll |
| 23:02.29 | Kevin2 | pH5: cr2 did that, I'm not sure what it involves. |
| 23:15.30 | lkcl | the full version of IDA pro works under wine, as well. i can probably let one person ssh in to my computer, with ssh forwarding, to run it, if you like. |
| 23:17.11 | lkcl | that's assuming that any of you egg-heads use linux... |
| 23:32.37 | lpotter | whats linux? |
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| 23:53.05 | pH5 | ~linux |
| 23:53.06 | apt | hmm... linux is the cure for cancer, AIDS and slavery to corporations |
| 23:54.33 | lkcl | hey are you mr trolltech lpotter? |
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