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| 09:25.15 | rob_w | re |
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| 09:58.22 | NickBee | cr2: So is there no ways at the moment to use phone on universal? |
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| 10:40.20 | LunohoD_ | WizMaui: hello |
| 10:42.32 | LunohoD_ | WizMaui: somebody reported on forum that wizard and prophet roms are interchangable |
| 10:46.16 | LunohoD_ | WizMaui: so the hardware should be the same |
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| 11:11.20 | WizMaui | wohoo ;) |
| 11:11.53 | WizMaui | has the prophet development evolved further than ours? |
| 11:12.37 | WizMaui | Can you give me a link to that statement |
| 12:43.46 | LunohoD_ | WizMaui: there is no prophet-linux development afaik |
| 12:45.27 | LunohoD_ | WizMaui: have you disassembled your wizard already? |
| 13:04.53 | WizMaui | nope :( |
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| 13:50.04 | [1]NickBee | cr2: I couldn't understand the RIL_DATA() you mentioned yesterday |
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| 16:39.39 | goxboxlive | cr2 are you there? |
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| 19:17.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have found where the gpio110 is manipulated. but there is still one open question. this code pulls gpio110 high for some time and then drops. haret shows that the "normal" state for gpio110 is 1. which is strange. |
| 19:18.21 | goxboxlive | ok :-) ( for me greek) |
| 19:18.54 | goxboxlive | But there are something that else that is bad news. |
| 19:19.07 | goxboxlive | It seems like there are no Opie developers left. |
| 19:19.41 | goxboxlive | And another problem is that i am failing to build Opie-image with Angstrom distro. |
| 19:20.13 | goxboxlive | I ahve seen the diffrents in the version of packages in angstrom and familiar, and familiar is obsolete |
| 19:20.54 | cr2 | i have not build oe for some days. |
| 19:21.18 | cr2 | btw, i'd like to run x11+qt |
| 19:21.26 | cr2 | is there such setup ? |
| 19:21.57 | cr2 | i.e. without gtk. |
| 19:22.01 | goxboxlive | i dont think there is |
| 19:22.13 | goxboxlive | do you mean run both gpe and Opie? |
| 19:22.25 | cr2 | neither. |
| 19:22.35 | cr2 | just the x server and libqt* |
| 19:22.56 | cr2 | i'll add two apps i need (you know :D) and don't care about the rest. |
| 19:23.40 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 19:23.42 | cr2 | the experience shows that i never use any other software. |
| 19:24.23 | cr2 | this is my dream setup. |
| 19:24.30 | goxboxlive | I have build a Oppie-image today, but that's with familiar distro. Angstrom refuse to build opie-console. And my problem is that no one is handlig Opie anymore in the OE . |
| 19:26.28 | cr2 | the only thing i dislike in opie is that it runs on the framebuffer and has a bit different api from "desktop" qt. |
| 19:26.54 | cr2 | i want 100% compatibility with my notebook. |
| 19:27.11 | goxboxlive | ok. Opie seems faster that GPE and it looks nicer |
| 19:28.41 | cr2 | i don't give a fsck about the "political" stuff behind. opie is GPL and it serves me right. |
| 19:28.57 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 19:30.21 | cr2 | and i don't use gnome :) and don't plan to. and disagree with its development direction. |
| 19:30.41 | goxboxlive | me neither, only kde |
| 19:32.58 | cr2 | there is some activity about the backlight in hh.org CVS |
| 19:33.03 | cr2 | linux/corgi_bl.h |
| 19:33.22 | cr2 | i don't understand why is it not generic. |
| 19:33.28 | goxboxlive | yes i saw that, havnt tried it out yet. |
| 19:33.52 | goxboxlive | I tried the soundcard yesterday, but it didnt work. |
| 19:33.57 | cr2 | the same for some other drivers .. |
| 19:34.14 | cr2 | yes, including sound. |
| 19:35.10 | cr2 | still, it's a minor problem compared with the nonworking phone. |
| 19:35.41 | goxboxlive | yes i agree |
| 19:36.30 | cr2 | oh. 141 oe revisions |
| 19:36.51 | lpotter | wait till Qtopia gpl release |
| 19:37.06 | lpotter | it's api is based on current Qt |
| 19:37.52 | cr2 | sounds very good :) |
| 19:43.36 | cr2 | i was told here that there is a wince qt port. maybe i'll try to convince some wince guys to write a qt phone app. |
| 19:43.51 | goxboxlive | lpotter: when will it be released gpl? Or is that a secret? |
| 19:45.26 | lpotter | can't really tell you, other than soon. |
| 19:45.39 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:45.51 | lpotter | 4.2 |
| 19:45.53 | lpotter | :) |
| 19:48.44 | cr2 | ERROR: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. |
| 19:48.59 | cr2 | Please install the git utility. |
| 19:52.34 | goxboxlive | yes install git-core |
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| 20:04.03 | dullard | lpotter, is the qtopia phone edition being gpl'd or just the core? |
| 20:12.13 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have built opie-image |
| 20:13.04 | lpotter | unfortunately, unless something changes, someone will have to write telephony stuff |
| 20:13.38 | lpotter | I am pushing for telephony to be included |
| 20:14.24 | goxboxlive | cr2: with angstrom distro? |
| 20:20.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: familiar |
| 20:22.13 | goxboxlive | ok, i have build one my self today with familiar, but not with angstrom. |
| 20:22.13 | cr2 | imho, we should look at the api moto a780 uses. binary compatibility with a780 is not very important. |
| 20:22.25 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:24.02 | cr2 | there is no "official" SDK from motorola, but i have seen the demangled lib symbols somewhere. |
| 20:24.30 | cr2 | since i have an a780 i can check it myself sometime. |
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| 20:58.26 | cr2 | pof: are you listening ? |
| 21:49.53 | dullard | will we be able to run qtopia phone edition on reverse engineered phones? I guess that question goes to cr2 and lpotter as I don't know wether the telephony stuff is open source or whether there are standardised driver specs for the phone part |
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| 22:01.02 | cr2 | dullard: there is no technical reason we can't. |
| 22:23.59 | goxboxlive | cr2 : when you have solve the phone issue, will i be able to use gomunicator without chamging the source of it? |
| 22:27.10 | cr2 | goxboxlive: of course not ;) |
| 22:27.40 | goxboxlive | so there will be a lot of work with that source too |
| 22:28.18 | cr2 | not a lot. |
| 22:28.24 | cr2 | for voice and sms. |
| 22:29.36 | goxboxlive | ok, how far are you from solving this? |
| 22:31.31 | cr2 | don't know. |
| 22:31.42 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:59.27 | goxboxlive | still awake cr2? |
| 23:10.59 | cr2 | yes. but tired ;) |
| 23:56.38 | goxboxlive | -) |