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00:09.35rob_wmorning ;-)
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18:11.08david-workDoes anyone know if it is possable to create a "page file" on a sdchip?  Or someway to use the chip as memory?  I have some programs that I use that eats my memory up quick and I am forced to soft reset.  I would like to use something like 100 megs from the sdcard as memory is this possable?
18:18.34goxboxlivecr2 : Are you there?
18:20.52rob_wdavid-work, u mean swap ?
18:21.18rob_wbut for windows , right ?
18:22.12rob_wdavid-work, google for ram disk and pocket pc .. maybe something comes up
18:22.23rob_wbut  i doubt it
18:32.25david-workI have :/
18:50.01cr2goxboxlive: hi. i have found where the gpio110 is changed. what wince is doing seems to be rather complex.
18:50.39goxboxliveok, how complex? Are able tosolve it?
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19:09.38dizzeyit should be doable
19:10.09dizzeywhen i was messing with a native build env i did read alot about having a swapfile over nfs
19:10.50dizzeynever quite got that working but it should be better to have that pagefile on a sd than over a network connection
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19:42.04cr2goxboxlive: i'm trying. there are still 3 gpios which are served by some program/dll not known to me.
19:42.18goxboxliveok
19:44.16cr2psokolovsky: can you check if the latest gnu-haret version works on ipaq h4[13]* ?
19:45.06psokolovskycr2: Hi! gimme link to the latest version ;-) binary linked from haret wiki page does work.
19:45.57cr2http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/
19:46.35psokolovskycr2: thanks. will check today/tomorrow
19:47.05cr2i'm mainly interested in 'dump asic3' and 'dump asic3gpio'.
19:47.25psokolovskycr2: btw, I found the base address of acx100 on h4000. I'll send email on that.
19:47.32psokolovskycr2: ok
19:48.02cr2great. we are moving forward :)
19:49.12cr2btw, it seems htc does not make any more pxa-based phones (universal is the last produced). 90% or the new phones are omap850.
19:49.47cr2somebody should think about the omap* haret version
19:51.05psokolovskycr2: I guess, they likely considered that omap is more suitable for *phone* (less power-hungry). Also, PXA's situation (Intel's having sold it) doesn't help too.
19:53.20cr2agreed. two arm cpus per phone was also not very cost -effective. still, blueangel/universal/hw651* were nice engineered monsters.
19:54.57psokolovskyyep, and they're pretty current anyway. people still use h3600. and those phones will serve well for quite some time yet. Just waiting when second-hand price will drop below $300 ;-)
19:55.47cr2i think that this page http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary needs a "CPU" column.
19:56.01cr2$300 for a blueangel ?
19:56.40psokolovskycr2: there's http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HandheldHardwareXref for that ;-)
19:57.16psokolovskycr2: yep, something like that. correction: in this part of world ;-)
19:57.29cr2universal and hw651x are currently in production, so they will stay expensive. universal is the top of the line device (must be $$$) and hw651x has gps.
19:58.03cr2blueangel is an "obsolete" device ;-)
19:58.35psokolovskyits 128mb make it "special" too ;-)
19:59.19cr2yes. and a 2D accel + IDCT ati chip.
19:59.41cr2there are some nice changes here :) http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HandheldHardwareXref
20:01.02cr2omap750 and 850 are missing, though.
20:02.17psokolovskycr2: yep, once it has shown it's usefull, I took a stab at brushing it up ;-) feel free to add anything missing!
20:05.03cr2ok. it's a great cross-reference, but some things are missing.
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23:08.53Kevin2Hi
23:51.07psokolovskyKevin2, Hi! still online?
23:51.07Kevin2Yes.  What's new?
23:51.07psokolovskyKevin2, well, still waiting for your confrimation regarding haret maintenance plan ;-)
23:51.08psokolovskyKevin2, did you get CVS access already?
23:51.09Kevin2I haven't heard back from anyone since sending the ssh keys.
23:51.09Kevin2I wont have any time for it until the weekend.
23:51.10Kevin2I do have a simplified linboot setup that is mostly working.  I'm having some problems with tags, but I think I can resolve that.
23:51.10psokolovskyKevin2, I just would like to be sure you're ok with proposed plan (fix logo issue, release that as 0.3.8, find good arm-wince-pe-gcc to work with, etc.)
23:51.38psokolovskyKevin2, I'll ping George France regarding your access if I see him on irc.
23:52.34psokolovskyand yep, I don't have much time for it either now, cut would like to have org matters settled, so they didn't get into workflow later ;-)
23:52.59Kevin2My plan would be - tag current, get gcc working, add haret-console, add new linboot/machine multiplexer, add irq watching/tracing code.  Then look at a command class to splitup script.cpp.
23:54.24psokolovskyKevin2, ok, then we need to tag and make branch, as I'd like to release current stable version.
23:55.17Kevin2I think we have the same basic plan.  I don't think we'll need to branch - we can always branch later from the tag if there is a concern.
23:55.34psokolovskyKevin2, agree.
23:56.00psokolovskyKevin2, so, let's leave that to whoever will actually start with the code, ok?
23:56.36Kevin2Have you seen the "haret console" stuff?  I just wrote a small python script that can run on the host machine.  It adds logging and readline support.  It can also help disassemble machine instructions when doing the advanced irq tracing/watching.
23:57.30psokolovskyKevin2, probably no then. Sounds pretty good. Having readline is nice!

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