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| 09:44.07 | florian_kc | good morning |
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| 11:29.55 | bippi | hi |
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| 13:08.33 | catphish | is cr2 about? |
| 13:12.22 | cr2 | hi catphish. yes, but busy with other things right now. |
| 13:12.55 | catphish | i wanted to talk to you about alpine development when u have the time |
| 13:14.56 | cr2 | you will find only the code available in the hh.org CVS. everything else is lost ;-) |
| 13:15.21 | cr2 | but maybe the "fresh" start is better. |
| 13:15.33 | catphish | i had your last build without the touchscreen working |
| 13:15.39 | catphish | so i was hoping to continue from that |
| 13:15.51 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:16.06 | catphish | i don't know how to make a vanilla/himalaya/universal kernel boot on the alpine |
| 13:16.19 | catphish | i'll see what i can find in cvs |
| 13:16.24 | cr2 | the touchscreen chipset is tsc2046, the same as in universal and hx470x. |
| 13:16.35 | cr2 | make htcalpine_defconfig |
| 13:16.40 | cr2 | should work. |
| 13:16.51 | cr2 | for you, afaik. |
| 13:16.56 | catphish | sorry to be blonde but where's the tree? |
| 13:17.24 | catphish | your build worked on my alpine so i should be able to sort it |
| 13:18.21 | catphish | oh got it |
| 13:18.24 | cr2 | CVS head at hh.org, but i have not tried it since July. i'll try today in the evening. the devices differ only by *_defconfig |
| 13:18.28 | catphish | i was looking on xda-dev cvs |
| 13:18.44 | catphish | which doesnt have a defconfig for it |
| 13:18.48 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:18.55 | catphish | thanks i'll give that a try |
| 13:19.39 | cr2 | the main problem for you will be to trace and document the cpld asic. |
| 13:19.56 | catphish | oh one other question |
| 13:20.11 | cr2 | i have done something in that direction, but you'll be able to do it better. |
| 13:20.15 | cr2 | ok. |
| 13:20.25 | catphish | how did you set the vibrate when the kernel loads? |
| 13:20.49 | cr2 | wince api. look at the gnuharet source. |
| 13:21.28 | catphish | ok |
| 13:21.33 | catphish | cheers |
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| 15:06.27 | catphish | i cant seem to compile a bootable alpine kernel from the current cvs :( |
| 15:21.29 | catphish | is .phys_ram field depreciated? I can't compile with it in place |
| 15:25.45 | cr2 | catphish: look in the hx4700 directory for how they do it. |
| 15:27.37 | catphish | ok |
| 15:27.55 | catphish | i think i just have a lot to learn :) none of my attempt get passed the nice red line |
| 15:28.31 | catphish | i'll ask later if i'm still stuck with it |
| 15:28.42 | cr2 | i'm checking out the hh.org CVS, then i need to install the compilers/toolchains. |
| 15:29.20 | catphish | ok |
| 15:29.36 | catphish | i used arm-linux-gcc-3.4.1.tar.bz2 |
| 15:29.37 | catphish | pre-built |
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| 15:50.57 | catphish | are you looking at it now cr2? sadly i'm disapearing in 40 mins for the evening |
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| 16:19.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: Hi how r u, nicd vacation ? |
| 16:21.00 | goxboxlive | nicd=nice |
| 16:26.00 | catphish | cr2: if you're not too busy can you post a note on the xda-dev forum about the changes that need to be made to the kernel to get it to run on the alpine as 'make htcalpine_defconfig', 'make' doesn't produce a bootable kernel (if it does then there's something wrong with my tools) |
| 16:26.46 | catphish | if there's anything else u want me to do on my alpine let me know and i'll do it tomorrow. there already seems to be some gpio documentation at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AlpineGPIO |
| 16:59.51 | cr2 | catphish: there are some minor changes needed to compile the kernel. backlight api has changed too. |
| 17:06.07 | cr2 | ok. if |
| 17:06.10 | cr2 | .phys_ram = 0xa0000000, |
| 17:06.29 | cr2 | is commented out the kernel compiles for alpine here. |
| 17:07.45 | pH5 | hi cr2. phys_ram is deprecated. you should remove it. |
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| 18:08.36 | goxboxlive | test |
| 18:33.37 | baud123 | cr2: the thread for alpine was http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=332643#332643 and there's indeed a ./kernel26/arch/arm/configs/htcalpine_defconfig (but not with your latest updates according to the changelog, unless you've commited them today ;-) ) |
| 18:33.53 | baud123 | (I've got one too : the qtek2020i) |
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| 18:37.52 | florian | re |
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| 19:08.38 | cr2 | baud123: there is nothing else but hh.org CVS ;-) |
| 19:08.57 | baud123 | cr2: you had commited your changes ? |
| 19:09.02 | cr2 | no. |
| 19:09.10 | cr2 | they are lost now. |
| 19:09.18 | baud123 | arg |
| 19:10.02 | cr2 | btw, what kind of changes were there ? |
| 19:10.16 | goxboxlive | hi cr2, good to have you back |
| 19:10.17 | cr2 | i don't remember after 6 weeks. |
| 19:10.26 | cr2 | hi goxboxlive :) |
| 19:10.32 | baud123 | cr2: I inferred from the thread that it was about configuring the GPIO |
| 19:11.01 | cr2 | configuring ? |
| 19:11.05 | baud123 | you had set the pda to vibrate on linux boot as well |
| 19:11.24 | baud123 | cr2: I do not know as you were a bit elusive at the time :/ |
| 19:11.29 | cr2 | vibrate is done with wince LedOn() function. |
| 19:11.59 | baud123 | you've lost your hard disk since ? |
| 19:12.00 | cr2 | i tried to support 6 htc ports :D |
| 19:12.15 | cr2 | yes. 180GB |
| 19:12.27 | cr2 | now i have everything on raid1. |
| 19:12.53 | baud123 | arg, bah your changes are the least important I think, they can be found again :/ |
| 19:13.21 | cr2 | i think we can recreate them more or less easily. |
| 19:13.30 | baud123 | raid1 does not replace committing in time ;-) (you could get your pc stolen as well) |
| 19:14.01 | cr2 | i have committed (most) nontrivial things to CVS, or posted to the mailing lists. |
| 19:14.06 | cr2 | true ;) |
| 19:15.00 | cr2 | there was quite a lot of junk in these 180GB. but a lot of useful things too ;) |
| 19:15.31 | cr2 | btw. do you know how to trace the cpld on alpine? |
| 19:15.59 | cr2 | if you really hope to get a full functioning linux on alpine, you need to do it. |
| 19:16.10 | baud123 | 2006-07-18 13:05 oleg |
| 19:16.11 | baud123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.42 | cr2 | maybe. |
| 19:17.00 | cr2 | since the touchscreen did not work as expected. |
| 19:17.31 | baud123 | I can use Haret and update the wiki accordingly if needed, till the kernel can boot |
| 19:17.44 | cr2 | it was a tsc2046 driver from hx47xx/universal/magician adapted to alpine. |
| 19:18.18 | cr2 | well, does the current kernel boot ? if the .phys_ram is removed. |
| 19:19.14 | cr2 | pH5: what is going on on magician ? can you talk to the phone ? |
| 19:19.52 | baud123 | did not try yet, I've got to find time to update my ROM from Italian to french first, then when I master the procedure to restore the rom I'll try Linux ;-) |
| 19:20.10 | cr2 | baud123: linux is not going to destroy your wince :) |
| 19:20.33 | baud123 | (qtek delivered italian ROM though we had ordered french ones, I learnt a new language :/) |
| 19:20.53 | cr2 | :) |
| 19:21.07 | baud123 | cr2: ok, only booting from memory then ? I'll need a new sdcard to format it in ext3 ? |
| 19:21.10 | baud123 | http://wiki.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php?wiki=PocketPCQtek2020i |
| 19:22.14 | goxboxlive | cr2: hh5 refuse to compile. It has been som updates in the kernel three when you have been on vacation. It complaines about som phys. ram adresses. |
| 19:22.24 | baud123 | those are my first notes, I'll try to cross-compile the kernel as well |
| 19:22.39 | cr2 | the card doesn't do any good because you don't have the touchscreen |
| 19:23.22 | cr2 | goxboxlive: phys_ram is easy to comment out. there are also some changes in the backlight api. |
| 19:23.33 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:23.41 | cr2 | i have compiled the kernel by commenting the offending places. |
| 19:24.59 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i think of dropping blueangel and concentrating on the universal only. |
| 19:25.52 | goxboxlive | i think that is a good idea :-) |
| 19:25.52 | cr2 | to do the "real" work on a "real" phone. |
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| 19:26.14 | cr2 | the troll.no is seeing some heat: |
| 19:26.17 | cr2 | http://www.trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2006-09-11.5308424158 |
| 19:26.31 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.31 | goxboxlive | arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcuniversal/htcuniversal.c:318: error: unknown field `phys_ram' specified in initializer |
| 19:26.31 | goxboxlive | make[2]: *** [arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcuniversal/htcuniversal.o] Error 1 |
| 19:26.31 | goxboxlive | make[1]: *** [arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcuniversal] Error 2 |
| 19:26.32 | goxboxlive | make: *** [arch/arm/mach-pxa] Error 2 |
| 19:27.32 | cr2 | / .phys_ram |
| 19:27.35 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.10 | pH5 | cr2: not much lately, I don't have enough time. for the phone I'm still missing the GSM reset procedure. |
| 19:29.36 | cr2 | pH5: i want to make gsm modem work on universal as a top priority. |
| 19:29.59 | goxboxlive | cr2 : http://pastebin.ca/168172 |
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| 19:31.13 | pH5 | cr2: I basically have two and a half: GSM, the audio path egpios (the ASoC sound driver seems to work, but the phone is silent) and then battery control |
| 19:32.18 | cr2 | goxboxlive: comment out [sg]et_power and set_brightness. then it will compile. i don't know what has changed in the backlight api. |
| 19:32.40 | cr2 | pH5: AT modem first :) |
| 19:32.54 | cr2 | seems to be the most simple task anyway. |
| 19:33.56 | pH5 | cr2: deal. |
| 19:33.56 | cr2 | wtf is this greenphone? is the kernel source for it available ? |
| 19:34.11 | goxboxlive | cr2 : http://pastebin.ca/168174 |
| 19:34.23 | lpotter | it will be |
| 19:34.45 | lpotter | soon after we get it from yuhualtel |
| 19:35.32 | cr2 | lpotter: i didn't look into the specs, but is there a chance to be compatible to it on some level ? |
| 19:36.04 | cr2 | goxboxlive: comment out the lines where SW_* is appearing. |
| 19:36.07 | lpotter | not sure |
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| 19:39.41 | cr2 | "Qtopia Phone Edition applications source code" ? |
| 19:43.57 | goxboxlive | it compiled |
| 19:44.56 | cr2 | does it boot? i need to find out where i have put my universal :) |
| 19:48.19 | goxboxlive | i am working on it. I havent booted for a long time now, so i am trying to find a sd card i can use |
| 19:50.26 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:02.52 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes it booted. It's kernel 2.6.17-hh1 |
| 20:05.05 | goxboxlive | Bluetooth works, wlan works, TS works |
| 20:05.21 | cr2 | great :) |
| 20:05.26 | goxboxlive | It seems like the brigtness applet in Opie doesnt work anymore. |
| 20:05.45 | cr2 | backlight does not work, buttons do not work. |
| 20:05.53 | goxboxlive | keyboard work |
| 20:06.22 | goxboxlive | some buttons works. It seem like most of them starts "Contacts" in Opie |
| 20:07.01 | goxboxlive | But i have problem to SSH it. |
| 20:07.23 | cr2 | usb or wlan ? |
| 20:08.00 | cr2 | i got some linker warning in g_ether, but it may be the gcc-3.4.1 problem. |
| 20:13.13 | goxboxlive | wlan |
| 20:13.49 | goxboxlive | i'll try to reboot and see whats happend with wlan now. |
| 20:14.28 | cr2 | i have seen some wlan patches in the cvs log. |
| 20:22.58 | goxboxlive | ok, i cant get my wlan working. It refuse to connect to the AP. Also the automatic rotation doesent work. But that's probably because of the commenting out SW_* in the source |
| 20:29.43 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 20:39.16 | femtux | hi, does anybody have a mda 3 with qwertz keyboard ? |
| 20:55.01 | lamikr | cr2: Hi, have you rescued your hard drives? |
| 20:56.17 | cr2 | hi lamikr. the drive is physically gone. therefore some data is lost. |
| 20:57.16 | lamikr | cr2: Oh, it was too HOT summer for it then :-( |
| 20:57.34 | lamikr | cr2: how was your rest of the trip? |
| 20:57.49 | cr2 | it's a 24/7/365 computer, so shit happens. it is raid1 now. |
| 20:58.04 | cr2 | quite successful, and not really stressful. |
| 20:58.09 | cr2 | btw, http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?lat=62.2333333&lon=25.7333333&zoom=12 |
| 20:59.37 | cr2 | the picture is a bit outdated, and is actually better. |
| 21:01.04 | lamikr | oh nice |
| 21:02.33 | lamikr | I have just noticed that rootfs in ext2 partition of mmc/sd card gets corrupted when I do suspend/resume. Not nice... |
| 21:03.50 | cr2 | strange. |
| 21:07.04 | lamikr | yes, I only noticed that now as I tried to move using h6300 as a daily phone. Earlier I have mostly used it over usbnet and then everything works ok. Another big probem for me is the wakeup from uart tx data when somebody makes a call. |
| 21:07.42 | cr2 | don't you have a gpio irq for that ? |
| 21:08.09 | pH5 | lamikr: mmc on asic3? I think there was a fix for a similar issue on hx4700 and h4000 last week. |
| 21:08.28 | cr2 | pH5: no, it's omap. |
| 21:08.34 | lamikr | ph5: I have omap device, so no asic3. :-( |
| 21:09.15 | cr2 | but it may be a general mmc layer issue. |
| 21:09.17 | lamikr | ph5: But was your mmc fix generic or something related to asic3? |
| 21:09.30 | lamikr | cr2: That was also in my mind :-) |
| 21:09.40 | cr2 | :) |
| 21:12.16 | lamikr | cr2: I have btw, committed some changes to gomunicator cvs in xanadux project. As it was anyway alsa dependent I made the sound.c to use alsa api for playing wav files instead of using /dev/dsp that requires oss or oss-alsa compat. |
| 21:12.18 | pH5 | oh, I'm sorry. that was about a bug in the asic3 driver. |
| 21:13.16 | lamikr | In addition I appletized the gomunicator. So it can now run whole the time and made visible/invisible by clicking icon in the panel. |
| 21:15.31 | cr2 | lamikr: great. |
| 21:16.04 | pH5 | ack. I wish I had sound & gsm working. |
| 21:16.15 | cr2 | can you multiplex now ? |
| 21:16.38 | cr2 | pH5: i had sound working on .12 ;) |
| 21:17.05 | cr2 | on hx4700 it works... |
| 21:17.39 | lamikr | cr2: No I can not yet. I need to close the gomunicator before I start gprs from the ppp scripts. We have now small python app (not made by me) that makes some questions and generates the gprs scripts from those. |
| 21:18.08 | lamikr | pH5: In which device you are working with? |
| 21:20.01 | pH5 | cr2: the hx4700 doesn't have to switch audio paths around, also the uda1380 is probably a bit dumber than the your sound chip? |
| 21:20.06 | pH5 | lamikr: it's a htc magician |
| 21:21.38 | cr2 | pH5: they use ssp+i2s on uda1380 instead of i2s only on hx4700. |
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| 21:31.56 | pH5 | cr2: ssp? the magician has it connected via i2s. |
| 21:39.20 | lamikr | cr2: Do you have pm.dll in wince? |
| 21:45.22 | cr2 | lamikr: no |
| 21:45.42 | cr2 | pH5: i2s for the output, ssp for input. |
| 21:46.07 | cr2 | it is the same on blueangel. |
| 21:46.08 | lamikr | ok, I think we have there the power management code. |
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