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| 00:32.45 | George | heya |
| 00:33.15 | George | I have an HTC Universal.. can anyone roughly estimate when the phone part will be working in Linux? :) |
| 00:39.14 | Kevi1 | I don't think anyone can give a reasonable estimate. Barring some unforeseen event (such as HTC releasing the specs), the work relies on knowledgeable people finding enough time and enthusiasm to complete the project. Who can tell when that will be? |
| 00:42.25 | George | do you know how far along they are? |
| 00:42.30 | George | I'd be willing to help out |
| 00:46.37 | George | I need an excuse to learn how the kernel works anwyay |
| 00:46.38 | George | :) |
| 01:14.58 | George | LORN!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:19.42 | Kevi1 | I think cr2 has looked the most at the phone stuff on universal. He's been out for the last month though. |
| 01:19.52 | George | Kevi1: ah |
| 01:19.53 | George | Kevi1: ok |
| 01:20.05 | Kevi1 | I've looked briefly at the phone on my apache. Doesn't look too difficult - it is mostly just AT commands. |
| 01:20.08 | George | Kevi1: does he have a public email address? |
| 01:20.23 | Kevin2 | I don't know what it is. |
| 01:20.44 | Kevin2 | Are you a developer? |
| 01:21.50 | George | yes |
| 01:22.05 | Kevin2 | I can show you the steps to trace all the commands that go back and forth between the phone. Documentation is the biggest obstacle to getting the phone working. If you (patiently) work through each of the phone's functions and document the commands/responses it will go a long way to getting it working. |
| 01:22.18 | George | Kevin2: ok |
| 01:22.23 | George | Kevin2: can you email any relevant info to me? |
| 01:22.40 | George | Kevin2: gwright@kde.org |
| 01:25.41 | Kevin2 | Well, I'd rather put it online somewhere in case anyone else needs it or is curious. Hrmm. Let me see what I've got.. |
| 01:27.00 | George | surely the phone bit is just a gsm modem hooked up on a serial bus? |
| 01:28.44 | Kevin2 | Well, I'm not sure what a "gsm modem" is to you. :-) It's a bit more complicated than I originally thought. |
| 01:29.04 | George | I see |
| 01:29.24 | Kevin2 | There are two serial ports to the "phone". And it looks like the phone can talk directly to the audio codec chip. |
| 01:29.40 | George | that's good :) |
| 01:29.47 | Kevin2 | So, at a guess, the 3g data network stuff goes on one serial port. And the other serial port is a control port. |
| 01:29.55 | George | hrmm |
| 01:30.13 | Kevin2 | There is also a whole bunch of gpio pins. I think cr2 said he had all those mapped out for the universal. |
| 01:30.45 | Kevin2 | The control port is just a bunch of old Hayes modem style "AT" commands. For example: ATD18009997766 to dial a phone number. |
| 01:31.28 | George | ok |
| 01:31.42 | Kevin2 | Are you familiar with haret? |
| 01:31.45 | George | no |
| 01:31.53 | George | I'm not familiar with any HTC-specific embedded stuff |
| 01:31.58 | George | I come from the world of the iPaq and Zaurus |
| 01:32.06 | Kevin2 | Have you launched linux on the universal yet? |
| 01:32.22 | George | no |
| 01:32.59 | Kevin2 | That is probably where you want to start. There is some pretty good documentation on the handhelds.org wiki. |
| 01:34.15 | Kevin2 | If I recall correctly, I think ph5 and/or goxboxlive put together the universal images. They're often on this channel. The universal is probably the most supported htc phone there is currently. |
| 01:34.38 | George | heh |
| 01:34.42 | George | it's got good hardware |
| 01:35.35 | Kevin2 | Yeah. The apache is almost as good on the hardware side. And in the US it is nice to have a CDMA phone. (The Apache is also known as the xv6700.) |
| 01:36.03 | George | apache? |
| 01:36.24 | Kevin2 | HTC Apache aka the sprint ppc6700 aka the verizon xv6700 |
| 01:36.37 | George | ah |
| 01:36.38 | George | QVGA |
| 01:36.47 | George | I absolutely 100% wanted a VGA screen :) |
| 01:37.02 | Kevin2 | Yeah, I'm jealous. :-) |
| 01:37.21 | George | the phone is HHHUUUUGGGEEEE though |
| 01:37.31 | George | I've resorted to buying a handsfree headset because it's so damn big :) |
| 01:38.28 | George | at the moment I'm trying to find a WM5 rom that doesn't suck |
| 01:38.29 | George | or rather |
| 01:38.33 | George | trying to find the one that sucks the least |
| 01:38.49 | Kevin2 | Heh, if you find one let me know. :-) |
| 01:39.41 | George | :P |
| 01:50.37 | George | Kevin2: so I take it you're in .us? |
| 01:50.57 | Kevin2 | Yes. |
| 01:51.31 | Kevin2 | Most of the people in this channel are in Europe. A lot from Germany. |
| 01:53.20 | George | heh |
| 01:53.28 | George | I'm fairly used to that sort of thing |
| 01:53.31 | George | being a KDE devel |
| 01:53.31 | George | lol |
| 01:54.06 | Kevin2 | Where are you located? |
| 01:55.49 | George | londn |
| 01:55.52 | George | london |
| 01:58.52 | Kevin2 | Sounds like fun. I live in New York City. |
| 01:59.54 | George | ah |
| 02:28.55 | George | Kevin2: hey cool, I have linux booted |
| 02:28.56 | George | heh |
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| 02:51.27 | GeorgeHTC | as |
| 02:51.35 | GeorgeHTC | hey |
| 02:51.39 | GeorgeHTC | this works yay |
| 02:59.58 | Kevin2 | I'm putting together info on tracing the phone on the wiki at: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApachePhoneTrace |
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| 09:17.23 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:31.24 | pH5 | hi florian_kc |
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| 16:36.17 | maniacxs | hi, currently installing on my universal ;) |
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| 16:44.47 | goxboxlive | well good luck maniacxs |
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| 17:05.21 | maniacxs | the sd card is really slow |
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| 17:42.07 | maniacxs | opie does not seem to know touchscreen ;( |
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| 18:14.12 | *** topic/#htc-linux is HTC LINUX ! check also -> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelResearch | http://gnulinux.biz/files/ LOGS: at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ || WE NEED SOMEONE TO WORK ON UDA1380 port to .16 !! pls msg rob_w for details |
| 18:32.50 | goxboxlive | maniacxs get this file and copy it to your /etc folder. http://gnulinux.biz/files/Universal/tmp/ts_calibrate/pointercal |
| 18:33.00 | goxboxlive | It might solve your problem |
| 18:33.41 | goxboxlive | If the calibration isent good enough with that file, just try to recalibrate after Opie has started. |
| 18:34.29 | maniacxs | goxboxlive: got it after a reboot. something was wrong before calibrating with screen rotation |
| 18:34.36 | maniacxs | but thank you |
| 18:35.37 | maniacxs | does opie has a phone application? |
| 18:35.56 | goxboxlive | i c. There are a lot of people who has the problem to get the TS to work at first boot with Opie, but i dont know what to do about it. I have only had the problemonce, and never sence. |
| 18:36.01 | goxboxlive | No not at the moment |
| 18:38.29 | maniacxs | goxboxlive: is the pointercal file in the image? or is is created when starting the application? |
| 18:39.00 | goxboxlive | It's created at first calibration (fiirst boot) |
| 18:40.12 | goxboxlive | I can solve it to just implement the pointrecal file, but if i do that the pernsonalization will be skipped. |
| 18:41.16 | rob_w | the "personalisation" is done if /etc/configured is not existant .. so remove that and a script will do that again |
| 18:41.18 | maniacxs | no posibility to force the personalisation with the pointercal file? |
| 18:41.53 | goxboxlive | i c rob_w thx |
| 18:45.46 | rob_w | np |
| 18:55.30 | maniacxs | hmm gpe image tells me use alt+left to see boot message... I do not have a alt key ;) |
| 18:57.04 | goxboxlive | you have the ALT key: Messaging key -> CTRL |
| 18:57.04 | goxboxlive | Internet Explorer key -> ALT |
| 18:57.04 | goxboxlive | Green Accept Phone Call -> Escape |
| 18:57.04 | goxboxlive | Left Soft key -> F1 |
| 18:57.04 | goxboxlive | Contacts key -> F2 |
| 18:57.06 | goxboxlive | Video Call key -> F3 |
| 18:57.08 | goxboxlive | Right Soft key -> F4 |
| 18:57.13 | maniacxs | ;) i found it |
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| 19:23.56 | cosmic665 | what is the best supported htc phone availible? |
| 19:24.12 | maniacxs | blueangel? |
| 19:25.04 | cosmic665 | how does the apache compare to the blueangel? |
| 19:25.13 | cosmic665 | can the apache take phone calls in GPE? |
| 19:27.12 | maniacxs | cosmic665: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary |
| 19:29.22 | cosmic665 | I've been there... that site is outdated :( |
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