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| 06:44.23 | Michaelch | hi! does any1 know where i can find a guide to install linux on my pda with windows ? |
| 06:45.06 | Michaelch | *with windows - i mean by using windows and not linux.. because i found a guide but its for linux |
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| 07:54.47 | goxboxlive | check the install section : http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal |
| 08:06.41 | goxboxlive | Michaelch: That guide is not with windows, but it is with your universal. You dont need a linux computer to get linux on the Universal. |
| 08:29.32 | awelux | goxboxlive, not entirely true. |
| 08:30.07 | awelux | the guide describes how to partition with linux. |
| 08:30.11 | goxboxlive | awelux: Why? |
| 08:31.04 | goxboxlive | Yes, but you can boot the universal with ramdisk, and then partition the sd card from the universal. So what i ment was that you dont need a linux computer, but you need linux on your universal. |
| 08:31.05 | awelux | It's possible to boot the universal with one of the initrd images and partition the SD on the universal but that's not described. |
| 08:31.43 | goxboxlive | thats described, look in the 'installing linux part' |
| 08:31.44 | awelux | right. But I think that might be hard for someone not familiar with the details of partitions and filesystems. |
| 08:32.07 | goxboxlive | that's right, it might be hard. |
| 08:32.52 | awelux | oh. you are right. I missed the Partitioning & formatting the SDCard directly on the Universal (not PC) part. sry :) |
| 09:08.29 | goxboxlive | awelux: I'm going to edit that part a little. To make it more lucid. |
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| 09:21.36 | awelux | good |
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| 16:46.05 | awelux | I can't identify the system and IC's the magician uses for charging. |
| 16:46.29 | awelux | Does anyone know who did these high resolution images of the magician board? |
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| 17:35.43 | awelux | I just bought another magician on ebay. |
| 17:36.35 | awelux | One will be taken apart :) |
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| 18:35.07 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 18:35.46 | goxboxlive | how much did u gave for it? |
| 18:35.53 | rob_w | i found the ba kernel is wrecked up these days .. |
| 18:36.12 | goxboxlive | row_w: how come? |
| 18:37.18 | rob_w | no idea ,, it felt that maybe the defconfig was changed to bad or so .,. the modules miss alot symbols to each other |
| 18:37.41 | goxboxlive | ko |
| 18:37.44 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:40.06 | rob_w | hmm that gues is wrong ,, defconfig did not change long time |
| 18:40.23 | rob_w | so ineed to look at the compile messages |
| 18:41.35 | rob_w | did someone ever tested the merged ba stuff in the universal tree ? |
| 18:47.50 | BabelOued | hi rob_w |
| 18:48.26 | BabelOued | ba stuff under universal tree doesb t compile |
| 18:48.33 | BabelOued | for me |
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| 19:36.26 | rob_w | BabelOued, i see |
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| 19:56.23 | BabelOued | do you go on with ba battery load ? |
| 20:16.26 | awelux | goxboxlive, I managed to get one for 140€. In hope it will turn out ok. |
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| 20:29.19 | awelux | It will ship with all the accessories so I'm sure itm wasn't stolen. |
| 20:30.59 | goxboxlive | ok, sounds like a good price. |
| 20:31.55 | awelux | Yes. I montored the ebay auctions ever since my close kill of my own magician. |
| 20:32.03 | awelux | I wanted to have one in reserve |
| 20:49.00 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 20:50.19 | goxboxlive | awelux: Are you going for Opie or GPE? |
| 20:50.41 | awelux | currently I'm going for serial ports. |
| 20:51.23 | awelux | opie or gpe is not really my concern now. So far I'm using opie because I could just use an existing image. |
| 20:51.54 | goxboxlive | ok i c. Is there made any phone application for Opie yet? |
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| 20:54.54 | mrevil | hi |
| 20:55.47 | goxboxlive | hi mrevil |
| 20:56.15 | awelux | goxboxlive, I've not seen any. |
| 20:57.14 | goxboxlive | me neither. Where are cr2, Is he giving up the linux port to the Universal? Havent seen him here lately |
| 20:58.28 | mrevil | awelux: have you done BIGROM successfully? |
| 20:58.48 | awelux | mrevil, yes. Thanks for the hints there |
| 21:00.19 | mrevil | i've managed to start the initrd and found my mistake concerning the sf-repository. THe night was too long .. |
| 21:03.20 | mrevil | i've got another question. are there sd-cards which are known not to work with a penguin driven magician? |
| 21:04.04 | awelux | yes :/ |
| 21:04.10 | awelux | I've one of them |
| 21:05.06 | awelux | I've a kinston sandisk and a normal blue sandisc which both work. |
| 21:05.14 | awelux | But the sandisc ultra II doesn't work |
| 21:05.26 | awelux | So right now your best bet are slow sandisks |
| 21:06.06 | mrevil | hmm, mine is toshiba (labled CnMemory, atelco...) but i'm not able to mount it . no problem with my linux pc |
| 21:07.58 | mrevil | so for further experiments i should "invest". does the wultra II work with CE? |
| 21:09.45 | rob_w | mrevil, what is the outcome on mounting it |
| 21:10.35 | mrevil | rob_w, the card does not seem to be detected.. |
| 21:10.45 | awelux | mrevil, yes it works with wince |
| 21:10.53 | awelux | oh. |
| 21:11.11 | awelux | for me the ultra II got detected but I couldn't access all sectores. |
| 21:11.42 | awelux | And btw. The current driver doesn't detect if you add a card later. The card must be present when the driver is loaded. e.g. at boot time. |
| 21:11.44 | mrevil | rob_w, i'll boot to give you the exact message |
| 21:12.10 | rob_w | i bet the market will always procude low level clones of any existing technic or standard ;-) |
| 21:13.20 | rob_w | if the low level detection fails ( not even the power can be applyied correclty ) then there is something wrong in the party`s |
| 21:15.36 | rob_w | compact flash cards fe doesnt necessarly do the ide disk part full correct ,,as they only photo camera`s and so they card manufacturer doesnt spend the time and money in implementing the full standard |
| 21:16.17 | rob_w | i hope everybody got the meaning out of this bad english typed sentence ;-) |
| 21:16.28 | mrevil | and, nearby, why does my version ov gnuharet (200603042123) ignore the startup.txt? |
| 21:16.46 | rob_w | that shows me that im tired .. cu all tomorrow |
| 21:20.50 | mrevil | the mmc-message is ""unrecognised SCR structure version 1" |
| 21:26.18 | awelux | mrevil, that's because cr2 renamed it internaly to search for startupN.txt or startup.txtN (don't know exactly) when he wanted to use two version in parallel. |
| 21:28.10 | mrevil | awelux, hmm, that info should be helpful for rebooting and not having to calibrate and move stupid appointments |
| 21:28.22 | awelux | move startup.txt to startupN.txt and it should be used |
| 21:28.39 | awelux | mrevil, exactly :) |
| 21:28.54 | awelux | synce-pcp /home/alex/pocketpc/linux/kernel/cvs/linux-2.6-xda/arch/arm/boot/Image :"My Documents/zImage" |
| 21:29.05 | awelux | synce-pcp startup.txt |
| 21:29.05 | awelux | synce-prun "My Documents/gnuharet.exe" |
| 21:29.15 | mrevil | :) |
| 21:30.43 | mrevil | awelux, did you manage to start "synce-serial-start" on connection automated? |
| 21:31.29 | awelux | no :/ |
| 21:31.52 | awelux | I think udev is all cool |
| 21:31.56 | awelux | But not user ready |
| 21:32.11 | awelux | I wrote a script I start as root: |
| 21:32.31 | mrevil | yes, it's kindof mystery for me |
| 21:32.44 | awelux | It calls synce-serial-abort, synce-serial-start and then copies files to the magician and starts haret. |
| 21:33.19 | mrevil | that should make life much easier |
| 21:33.20 | awelux | about udev: There is no api to add devices, no ui, and no gui. |
| 21:34.08 | awelux | At my company I'm just now arguing against writing the udev files directly. It's to risky we might break something. |
| 21:34.29 | awelux | For example when we run out of hd space. |
| 21:34.31 | mrevil | ..and have not been able to find "quick and easy" documentation |
| 21:35.17 | mrevil | udev is able to create enough files to run a system out of hd-space? |
| 21:36.13 | awelux | right. And with 4 official ways how to handle device nodes in years I really think udev can use a few more years. |
| 21:36.37 | awelux | mrevil, that depends on the hd space. |
| 21:36.58 | awelux | If you have just a 1 kb free or even nothing free you might have a problem |
| 21:37.08 | mrevil | you are working on embedded systems? |
| 21:37.37 | awelux | No. mainframes. They are not generous with resources there :) |
| 21:38.24 | mrevil | hmm, embedded, mainframes, where's the difference? ;) |
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| 21:38.46 | awelux | not much. That'S why I'm doing this :-) |
| 21:39.12 | mrevil | lol |
| 21:39.47 | husam | cr2: I'm trying to use irda to dump trace from h6300 bootloader ... do you know which tty I should be using on the host (my PC) |
| 21:41.20 | awelux | husam, strangely cr2 is not here :) |
| 21:41.39 | husam | :) ok ... come someone else help |
| 21:42.04 | husam | I guess he needs break :) |
| 21:42.22 | awelux | Doesn't irda on linux have special irda tty modules ? |
| 21:43.08 | husam | will there ircomm I think ... but doesn't work |
| 21:45.17 | awelux | I've had a lot of problems with ir too. Couldn'T get it to work properly. |
| 21:46.29 | husam | ok ... Maybe I don't have the right driver |
| 21:46.35 | awelux | Why do you need irda to access the h6300 bootloader? |
| 21:50.51 | mrevil | does the standard initrd "speak" NFS? |
| 21:51.45 | husam | awelux : so I can get the trace and see why it's not respoding when I send command |
| 21:54.45 | awelux | Does the standard bootloader dump info to the irda? At first I thought you want to dump an image of the bootloader. But I guess you would have said so. |
| 21:55.43 | awelux | Do you see any data when you use irdadump -x ? |
| 21:55.52 | husam | Yes bootloader uses irda port to dump trace .... and I just want the trace |
| 21:56.14 | husam | I haven't tried this |
| 21:58.01 | husam | Nothing comes out from irdadump -x |
| 21:58.15 | awelux | irdadump should dump the raw irda packages. nothing is bad. |
| 21:59.13 | husam | thought so |
| 22:00.14 | awelux | irdadump -d -x -s 256 will check the contents of the frames. This should tell us if the frames have malformed content, or if the irda |
| 22:00.15 | awelux | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.24 | awelux | from the irdadump man page |
| 22:07.08 | mrevil | it's getting late... goodnight! |
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| 22:18.17 | husam | I can see it now ... trying to discover device |
| 22:30.49 | husam | awelux : thanks for the help and goodnight :) |
| 22:31.13 | awelux | goodnight husam |
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