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00:25.38parmasterword up rob_w
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01:38.14rob_w..hey they applied a patch from me
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08:21.13k1_k1hi all. I'm still hunting for a way to turn off the camera flash on my newly linuxed BA (NZ version).
08:21.29k1_k1i'm learning how much I need to learn - it's a humbling thing :)
08:22.02k1_k1I don't have a /sys/class/leds... any kind soul prepared to point me in a direction where I can go to try to understand this?
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17:22.33cr2hi rob_w
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19:30.14errante_hello
19:30.51errante_somebody has blueangel working with linux?
19:35.05errante_anyone is there?
19:40.08errante_hi
19:58.44immolohey
20:03.13errante_r there?
20:05.37immoloare there what?
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20:33.37cr2goxboxlive: i have updated the tiacx driver from hh.org. maybe it will work better.
20:33.50cr2hi awelux
20:34.05aweluxhi. I'm having some X trouble
20:34.33cr2i'm puzzled by the touchscreen. why it provides 15bit data when tzhe docs say it is 12bit...
20:34.38aweluxwhen I press my left mouse button I always get immediately a mouse release event
20:34.38cr2X trouble ?
20:34.53aweluxI can't drag and drop
20:34.59husamcr2: I have tried acx driver ... but it failed to read MEM_MAP ... command timeout
20:35.06cr2on magician ?
20:35.23cr2husam: which acx driver ?
20:35.42husamwifi driver the one you used
20:36.31cr2hmm.
20:37.04husamI had the same problem with version I was playing with before
20:37.14husamthey are using old version
20:37.52cr2do you use the same firmware ?
20:38.34cr2because it works here, only unstable.
20:40.06husamI used the firmware from my device
20:40.46cr2well. it is a right thing, but is the fw version different ?
20:41.23errante_anyone has blueangel working with linux?
20:41.39cr2ba? which boardid?
20:41.56errante_qtek9090
20:42.13husamyes ... if I disable dma stuff it loads fine ... and I get the right info when I dump firmware info
20:43.16cr2errante_: the board ids are documented here:
20:43.18cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelBoardIDs
20:43.29errante_ty
20:44.32errante_<PROTECTED>
20:44.48cr2ok. so what is the question ? :)
20:46.41errante_how to eliminate that winmb
20:46.57errante_windows mobile se
20:47.26errante_and to install a linux os
20:48.03cr2http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel
20:48.28cr2afaik, there were some problems with suspend/resume on boardid 6 .
20:49.32errante_no problem sure linux's better than wim mobile
20:50.24errante_surely
20:50.24errante_sorry for my english
20:51.16cr2there is no camera support and bt headset.
20:51.38cr2wifi is on the way, but not yet working.
20:53.54errante_no problem for me i can wait
20:54.10errante_can i help you somehow?
20:54.52cr2i work mainly on the universal.
20:55.03cr2there are other problems.
20:55.22errante_what kind
20:55.31cr2but a lot of things are common for all phones.
20:55.39cr2the phone is not working.
20:55.42errante_fortunately
20:55.59cr2and the touchscreen is very non-linear for some reason.
20:56.33cr2it provides the 15bit data instead of 12bit as said in the chip docs. i'm puzzled now.
20:56.40errante_so the develop of te so is only at the beginning?
20:57.01cr2te ?
20:57.46cr2the blueangel is the best right now.
20:57.55errante_ah ok
20:58.04cr2if you forget about wifi.
20:59.12cr2try linux, it runs from the SD card.
21:00.25errante_but i can install the so into my pda with suse or only from windos?
21:00.36cr2awelux: are you still here ?
21:00.47aweluxyes
21:01.02cr2you install it in linux. partition and format the sd card and put the data.
21:01.05aweluxquestion: I've compiled the ts part
21:01.29cr2does it work ?
21:01.30aweluxbut I don't see the device handle apear in devfs
21:01.35errante_ok ty
21:01.52cr2<PROTECTED>
21:01.58aweluxI tried loading it as a module (module loading works btw) but still no device handle
21:02.03aweluxoh let me check
21:02.33cr2you don't have the keyboard, so it must be /dev/input/event0
21:03.32awelux<PROTECTED>
21:03.41aweluxI thought it would create a touchscreen subfolder
21:03.47cr2it's only a "name"
21:04.04cr2the device is /dev/input/event0
21:04.25cr2or whatever is available first.
21:04.46cr2so can be /dev/input/event1 if you start the keyboard first.
21:05.02errante_i have an 1gb sd card how much space needs the kernel?
21:05.06cr2which you do not have.
21:05.35cr2errante_: leave 32MB for a fat16 partition, the rest for linux.
21:06.10errante_<cr2> ty
21:06.17cr2read it here
21:06.19cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalProgress
21:06.46cr2but since you have a blueangle, some minor corrections are needed.
21:06.58cr2but not in the partitioning part.
21:09.37aweluxhmmm. I think my 60€ mouse is broken ....
21:10.27cr2;)
21:10.35cr2use the keyboard.
21:10.43aweluxwhich happened just three days after a major cleanup of the room so I think the  reciept survived.
21:11.19aweluxok. I've indeed some ts devices here
21:11.44aweluxcat tsraw0 does nothing though
21:12.09cr2do you have /dev/input/event0 ?
21:12.25aweluxno.
21:13.15aweluxxfbdev still complains about no ts
21:13.53cr2is your .config different from defconfig ?
21:14.17aweluxcurrently yes since I'm using the ts
21:15.13cr2CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y ?
21:15.26aweluxoh
21:15.37goxboxlivecr2: Ok, i am updateing  the source now, i'll try it out tomorrow. ( there isent any notes about changes or new uploads at xanadux-cvs-updates.  http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=37511
21:16.03cr2goxboxlive: don't trust sf.net ;)
21:16.20goxboxlive:-)
21:16.38aweluxcr2, good guess. it was off
21:17.44cr2probably it is a good idea to force it on, if the TS is included.
21:25.05aweluxnow I've an event0 device.
21:25.15aweluxBut xfbdev still complains about o ts
21:25.18aweluxno ts
21:25.56aweluxI don't get values from od tsraw0 so I guess I've more work to do in the driver.
21:25.58cr2ok. xfbdev is dumb.
21:26.20cr2it looks for some obsolete devices names
21:26.32cr2like /dev/ts_h3600
21:26.38cr2or something like that.
21:26.48aweluxic
21:26.57cr2do you have the ts_* tools from the universal opie image ?
21:27.01aweluxI will softlink that
21:27.11aweluxno. I will get the tools
21:27.31cr2the links are in the /linuxrc
21:27.42cr2the ts_* tools are in /home/root
21:27.46cr2ts_print
21:27.49cr2ts_test
21:27.53cr2ts_harvest
21:27.57cr2ts_print_raw
21:28.33aweluxk
21:38.11cr2do you have libts.so on the ramdisk ?
21:39.13cr2maybe i should put the ts_* tools somewhere, so you don't need to dowload a 16MB image (or how big it is)
21:42.09goxboxlivecr2: It woked on 1Mb/s and 11Mb/s . But when i tried to set the rate to 22Mb/s it frooze :-) .
21:43.39goxboxliveI have also tried to set pre-up /sbin/iwconfig essid "blabla" rate "11M" but the WLAN refuse to work.
21:44.16goxboxlive(in the /etc/network/interfaces files)
21:46.31goxboxliveAnd the cool part is, it connect's to the net on boot :-)
21:46.55cr2did you remove your ip from the opie image ?
21:47.25goxboxliveyes.
21:47.27aweluxok. the hint with the h3600 device was dead on. I've to try the opie image now
21:47.51aweluxIs there something fance I could do with xfbdev without the opie image ?
21:47.55awelux*fancy
21:48.04cr2it should the the universal opie, not ba.
21:48.22cr2opie does not use xfbdev
21:48.24cr2gpe does
21:48.57errante_sorry cr2 how to partition the sd card with windows?
21:49.31cr2windows ?
21:49.48errante_windows xp
21:49.53aweluxoh
21:50.00cr2i don't think it will work.
21:50.18aweluxyou could download a linux live cd and partition it from there
21:50.20cr2you should boot into the linux ramdisk, and run fdisk.
21:51.10aweluxI've to bail out and look for that reciept
21:51.15errante_ok ty
21:51.36aweluxIf I don't find it I can open the mouse and fix the problem now
21:51.53aweluxOtherwise I will wait till I get shipped a new mouse,
21:52.11cr2awelux: i have a bright idea to put linux on the raw sdcard, without any partitioning. do you think it will work ?
21:52.20errante_cr2 and with damnsmall linux running on qemu?
21:52.54cr2no idea.
21:53.07errante_ook i try
21:54.21goxboxlivecr2: I tried to install nano over net, it failed once, but sucseded the second time ( on rate 5,5 ) I'll try to install gaim now.
21:55.35aweluxyea. found it. Now I can't open the device to see if I might be able to fix it myself or I will lose the warranty.
21:58.01goxboxlivecr2: Also libopiebluez2 succeded :-)
21:58.29immolowas there any news of an opie phone dialler yet?
21:58.30cr2do you have the blue icons now :)
21:58.53cr2immolo: no.
21:58.57immolodamn
21:59.11immoloopie looks so much better then gpe
21:59.13cr2write your own, the gui part is easy.
21:59.26goxboxliveI have allwyas had the blue icon, but it has allways been grey. But i found out, when i set it in discover mode it turns blue :-)
22:00.00immolohmm only langage I know is pascal and I havn't used it in years:P
22:00.01cr2immolo: i agree, but there are a lot of people who have a different opinion. so who cares.
22:00.23cr2goxboxlive: it is the same for IR.
22:00.44immolocr2, I do and I guess you do else you would have be using gpe on the uni build :P
22:00.59goxboxliveI'll try to start Opie now and start irc, gaim and embedded konqueror and se if the acx failes.
22:01.17immolobut then again I could live with gpe for the sake of linux on the ba
22:02.12cr2immolo, gpe on universal is really ugly.
22:02.36cr2i have started with the ba gpe image, and then tried opie.
22:03.45cr2once we will have a working phone on universal, i'll write a gui frontend, don't worry.
22:04.07immolo:P I try not to but you know how it is
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22:05.35immolohmm I may just try getting an mp3 alarm clock running without using cron then see if I can help some more
22:05.36cr2the phone on uni is not easy, and there are many other annoying small problems.
22:05.58immolocr2, I can imagine
22:06.02Doradohi
22:06.07immolohello
22:07.01Dorado:)=
22:07.06Dorado:)
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22:10.21goxboxliveand i am online using rate 11.It failed when i started Opie
22:12.48aweluxneat guis are easy but still a lot of work
22:20.30cr2does the touchscreen work for you ?
22:24.57aweluxfor me? I don't think so
22:25.13aweluxI don't get any feedback from tsraw0
22:25.27cr2od -x -v /dev/input/event0
22:25.31aweluxif you open tsraw0 with od -x tsraw0 do you get data ?
22:25.45aweluxWell I don't get anything
22:25.56cr2irq ?
22:26.04aweluxI used 24
22:26.10cr2can you put the driver in CVS ?
22:26.26cr2cat /proc/interrupts
22:26.41cr2does it change when you use the stylus ?
22:26.48aweluxSince this seams to be the one from ssp
22:27.05aweluxCan I get a chance ? I'm reading an interesting book this weekend.
22:27.22aweluxSo development is not going at full force
22:27.45cr224 ?
22:27.45aweluxAnd I don't want to have it working
22:27.49aweluxI want to understand it
22:28.12cr2i thought 115 ?
22:28.33cr2in the case of the touchscreen it is the same
22:29.45aweluxis irq the gpio pin number ?
22:30.53aweluxok. It's in cvs.
22:31.26cr2irq is not the gpio number.
22:31.36cr2from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianGPIO
22:31.47cr2i think it is ssp2, not ssp.
22:31.55aweluxah. possible.
22:32.08aweluxJust 20 more pages.
22:33.27cr2:)
22:40.43aweluxbtw. a very good book. physikalische fingerübungen für fortgeschrittene von r.p. feynman
22:42.12aweluxit's a veryclear, understandable and deep explanation of the theory of relativity.
22:43.00aweluxfar from anything I've read in popular science books so far.
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22:56.19goxboxlivecr2: The WLAN still failes a lot. I dont know of i can say it's bether or worse. When it failes i allways have to remove the acx and the probe it again. Then it works after networking restart.
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