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| 00:55.17 | nedge2k | cr2: you about? |
| 00:55.49 | nedge2k | or is anyone else here familiar with linux on the universal? |
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| 06:07.14 | willpow82 | hey |
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| 06:53.06 | rob_w | ls |
| 06:54.28 | rob_w | ls |
| 06:55.26 | nedge2k | Is -I ? :P |
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| 06:56.20 | rob_w | yeah |
| 06:56.52 | nedge2k | dont suppose you run linux on a universal do you? |
| 06:57.21 | rob_w | not me , as i dont have one .. but maybe soon .. i am blueangel owner |
| 06:57.25 | rob_w | but others do ! |
| 06:57.54 | nedge2k | ah ok |
| 06:58.15 | nedge2k | does ba use opie ? |
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| 09:48.01 | nedge2k | cr2: thanks i'll try that now |
| 09:51.43 | nedge2k | start/stop failed...trying ftp image |
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| 11:24.45 | mndctrl | rob_w: tnx alot for the alsa lib dude ;) I can link to it etc, and most of the stuff seems to be working, but I get: undefined reference to `CLAMP' |
| 11:24.49 | mndctrl | :/ |
| 11:25.02 | rob_w | from alsa ? |
| 11:25.59 | goxboxlive | nedge2K: Still problem to get into Opie? |
| 11:26.09 | mndctrl | yeah... |
| 11:26.34 | nedge2k | nope sorted now :) |
| 11:26.40 | nedge2k | used the ftp image |
| 11:28.12 | mndctrl | rob_w: its when trying to link the mixer library to an application... |
| 11:29.05 | mndctrl | its the: volume = CLAMP (volume, phone_vol_min, phone_vol_max); line that fails... |
| 11:29.21 | mndctrl | seems the CLAMP function is not in the library :/ |
| 11:29.24 | rob_w | hmm |
| 11:30.10 | mndctrl | I don't know.. I might be doing something wrong... But none of the other alsa calls fail! |
| 11:31.16 | rob_w | but that was kind athe latest lib |
| 11:32.04 | goxboxlive | ok, great |
| 11:44.45 | goxboxlive | nedge2K: Great link, with a lot of stuff to install: http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.4-rc1/feed/ |
| 11:47.00 | nedge2k | sweet cheers dude |
| 11:47.38 | nedge2k | i hate to admit being a n00b to something but i deffinately am when it comes to linux :P |
| 11:47.42 | nedge2k | learning tho ;) |
| 11:52.06 | nedge2k | anyone here interested in free push mail btw? |
| 11:52.38 | nedge2k | mail2web have just started doing it |
| 11:52.47 | goxboxlive | i all allready have at work, thanks anyway |
| 11:53.22 | nedge2k | it has pop3 agregator but not pop3 access or ability to change smtp...can only use web outlook...but its freeeeee :) |
| 11:53.26 | nedge2k | ah ok ;) |
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| 12:25.30 | nedge2k | goxboxlive: cheers for the new kernal but could u upload new opie also? |
| 12:25.42 | nedge2k | all the links in the thread point to older files |
| 12:25.56 | nedge2k | and the ones in the wiki were a pain in the ass |
| 12:33.07 | goxboxlive | nedge2k: I have build an Opie-image today actually, but it's not finished. Because the HTC Universal doesent have support in the OE repo it has to be modified. So mine is no bether than the Milanvot's release. That is the best one and most stable one for now i think. It also supports automatic rotation . I have problem to implement that. But i will post it as soon it is more useable than Milanvot's release: |
| 12:33.19 | goxboxlive | nedge2K: This one is the most stabel at the moment: http://www.kwik.cz/universal/universal_rootfs_060312.tar.bz2 |
| 12:33.35 | nedge2k | thats the one which wouldnt load |
| 12:33.52 | nedge2k | wouldnt load with patch either |
| 12:34.51 | nedge2k | i think i'll just wait for your release ;) |
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| 12:48.21 | goxboxlive | If you use that Milanvots release and cr2's last zimage ( zuni-20060421 ) use this default.txt : http://pastebin.com/673172 if you have your opie image at partision 2. |
| 12:54.00 | nedge2k | so new kernal should boot kwik archive fine yeh? |
| 12:54.46 | nedge2k | i'll give it a try... |
| 13:00.04 | goxboxlive | all kernels should boot that archive just fine, but rememberto use fbcon=1 you have to have that support in the kernel.ANd with the new cr2 kernel it is compiled in to it. |
| 13:00.46 | goxboxlive | so i just straight forward. Use the default.txt i pasted in the pastebin.com |
| 13:01.05 | nedge2k | hmm...i think i had "set INITRD " missing from the txt i had on the sd |
| 13:01.14 | nedge2k | might be why it didnt boot? |
| 13:03.18 | goxboxlive | ok, did it boot? |
| 13:03.47 | nedge2k | havent got it on there yet |
| 13:03.55 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 13:04.08 | nedge2k | had to re-download and their server is slow |
| 13:09.49 | nedge2k | how do i wipe part 2 without having to reformat it? |
| 13:10.21 | nedge2k | is there like a "delete all" command? |
| 13:13.09 | goxboxlive | 'rm -r *' |
| 13:13.23 | goxboxlive | the '-r' means recursive |
| 13:13.59 | goxboxlive | just remember to be in the root of the sd card and not on your computer :-) |
| 13:14.50 | nedge2k | rm /dev/mmc/blk0/part2 -rf |
| 13:14.54 | nedge2k | will that work? |
| 13:17.20 | goxboxlive | go to the root of your sd card |
| 13:17.32 | nedge2k | hehe...i dont know how :P |
| 13:17.34 | goxboxlive | type 'rm -r * ' |
| 13:17.46 | goxboxlive | the '*' means everything. |
| 13:18.39 | nedge2k | is it like dos? cd /dev/mmc/blk0/part2 ? |
| 13:18.57 | goxboxlive | no mount the sd csrd |
| 13:19.19 | goxboxlive | ' mount -t //dev/mmc/blk0/part2 |
| 13:19.22 | goxboxlive | sooru |
| 13:19.41 | nedge2k | ah ok |
| 13:19.43 | goxboxlive | ' mount -t ext3 /dev/mmc/blk0/part2 /tmp |
| 13:20.28 | goxboxlive | are u using the universal to do all this? Or are you using a linux computer? |
| 13:20.35 | nedge2k | universal |
| 13:20.41 | nedge2k | dont have linux on my laptop |
| 13:20.46 | nedge2k | never used it before :P |
| 13:20.50 | goxboxlive | If you ar e using the universal i hav no idea, have never doone it. |
| 13:21.09 | goxboxlive | U bether get you self a linux live cd, it's easier i guess. |
| 13:21.25 | nedge2k | i had one but it just went to command prompt |
| 13:21.38 | nedge2k | there's one on the bottom of pg 4 of the xda-devs thread |
| 13:21.40 | goxboxlive | then just wipe out yor linux partition as described on the WIKI |
| 13:21.59 | nedge2k | yeh thats what i've been doing but on exec it takes time |
| 13:22.07 | nedge2k | doesnt matter i'll just do that |
| 13:22.33 | goxboxlive | thats all you need. commandprompt is great, just follow the turtorials on the blueangel wiki. |
| 13:22.34 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 13:24.52 | nedge2k | i know but tutorials have a habbit of saying "now do this" but they dont always tell you how to "do this" because its common knowledge for linux users. for someone who has never used linux it can be a nightmare. anyway..im learning ;) |
| 13:52.38 | nedge2k | yep works with new kernal :) |
| 13:52.53 | nedge2k | without the initrd bit tho as im doing it from sd |
| 13:53.03 | nedge2k | cheers for your help :) |
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| 14:02.19 | nedge2k | bbl |
| 14:50.28 | jeanseb | hi channel name is changed :d ? |
| 15:00.04 | goxboxlive | nedge2k: great. u welcome. |
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| 16:38.11 | goxboxlive | hmm quite here now. |
| 16:39.03 | goxboxlive | Are you here cr2 ? Have you solved the fourier serie yet? |
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| 16:48.25 | interwebmaster | hey |
| 16:49.24 | interwebmaster | i'm a newb to the htc-blueangel development, but i have a board id of 0x4 and have gotten it working |
| 16:49.52 | interwebmaster | do any of you know any of the stats with implementation on 0x4? |
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| 16:52.57 | interwebmaster | got it to boot, got GPE to load and run fine... only problems i've noticed ATM: camera flash stays lit, appears to be no functional audio though modules load and do not appear to fail, the gsm0 modem does not take the same init string and i'm not sure what it should be, and the picture on the screen is a little off-center |
| 16:53.43 | cr2 | 0x4 is unusual :) |
| 16:53.45 | interwebmaster | but, i'm glad to see it booted and that i have a working desktop so far |
| 16:54.57 | interwebmaster | i almost feel cheated that i'm the only one i know with one of these that has a 0x4 version |
| 16:54.59 | cr2 | the screen offset... can you read the atihwbl0.txt or something like that and put it somewhere. |
| 16:55.08 | interwebmaster | certainly |
| 16:55.25 | cr2 | the code looks for 0x5 and 0x6 and changes the parameters accordingly. |
| 16:56.22 | cr2 | tell more about the phone. |
| 16:56.46 | cr2 | you have camera and flash ? |
| 16:56.53 | cr2 | what about wifi ? |
| 16:57.02 | cr2 | is it gsm ? or cdma ? |
| 16:58.27 | interwebmaster | yep... my Blueangel is from Verizon, has Bluetooth but no WiFi, camera and flash, 128MB RAM |
| 16:58.38 | interwebmaster | i think it is cdma being from Verizon |
| 16:58.49 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:58.55 | interwebmaster | correct me if i'm wrong on that though |
| 16:59.16 | cr2 | with the flash you are on your own. no european phone has it. |
| 16:59.40 | cr2 | i think all US htc phones are cdma. |
| 16:59.57 | cr2 | otherwise it does not make sense to produce a us model. |
| 17:00.12 | interwebmaster | no problem, i'll start tossing 1s and 0s all over to figure out how to turn off the flash |
| 17:00.18 | interwebmaster | k |
| 17:00.35 | cr2 | it's probably some pxa gpio or asic3 gpio. |
| 17:00.46 | cr2 | use haret for tracing. |
| 17:01.01 | cr2 | does the phone work ? |
| 17:01.09 | interwebmaster | no, it doesn't |
| 17:01.17 | interwebmaster | the modem doesn't accept the init string |
| 17:01.20 | cr2 | gsm0 is a bad sign. |
| 17:01.27 | cr2 | it means - phone unknown. |
| 17:01.38 | cr2 | afaik. |
| 17:01.41 | interwebmaster | k |
| 17:01.48 | cr2 | or as far as i can remember. |
| 17:02.26 | cr2 | hmm. haret is too much pxa27x tuned. |
| 17:02.39 | cr2 | but most of the commands should be portable. |
| 17:02.54 | interwebmaster | where would i locate atihwbl0.txt? |
| 17:02.58 | cr2 | asic3 should work. |
| 17:03.03 | cr2 | in \Windows |
| 17:03.40 | interwebmaster | what are asic3 and pxa? |
| 17:03.52 | cr2 | atihwtbl0.txt |
| 17:03.55 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaBoardId6ATI_reg |
| 17:04.07 | cr2 | you can compare with it. |
| 17:04.11 | cr2 | pxa is the CPU |
| 17:04.12 | interwebmaster | k |
| 17:04.25 | cr2 | asic3 is a support chipset. |
| 17:04.45 | interwebmaster | ic |
| 17:04.48 | cr2 | haret has some commands to invetigate them. |
| 17:05.05 | cr2 | they all called "dump" |
| 17:05.29 | cr2 | get haret from http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/ |
| 17:05.55 | cr2 | if you quit from haret , expect the hard reset. |
| 17:06.07 | cr2 | the most interesting commands are |
| 17:06.32 | cr2 | "dump pxa26x ba4_pxa26x" |
| 17:06.40 | cr2 | "dump asic3 ba4_asic3" |
| 17:06.54 | cr2 | "dump wince ba4_wince" |
| 17:07.07 | cr2 | "dump gpio ba4_gpio" |
| 17:07.19 | cr2 | "dump asic3gpio ba4_asic3gpio" |
| 17:07.38 | cr2 | the ba4_* files will be created on the disk. |
| 17:07.48 | cr2 | you should upload them somewhere. |
| 17:08.05 | cr2 | then we can compare them with the existing ba data. |
| 17:09.11 | interwebmaster | ok |
| 17:10.13 | cr2 | you can also try some "dump pxa27x*" commands |
| 17:10.26 | cr2 | like "dump pxa27xserial ba4_serial" |
| 17:10.35 | cr2 | they should work on ba too. |
| 17:11.02 | cr2 | we need to find out how and where the phone modem is connected |
| 17:11.30 | cr2 | there are some registry flags you can change to create a modem log, imho. |
| 17:11.50 | cr2 | then you will know the init string and other goodies. |
| 17:12.20 | cr2 | otherwise you will look at the rilcdma.dll file in \Windows |
| 17:12.38 | cr2 | we wall have rilgsm.dll, so you are on your own again. |
| 17:12.59 | cr2 | ok. now i need to go and buy some meals. |
| 17:33.05 | interwebmaster | thanks though |
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| 19:36.51 | goxboxlive | cr2: Have you been able to get qpegps working? I have managed to connect my universal with the my BT gps, and i have done 'cat /dev/rfcomm0' and a lot of values runned in the console, but qpegps refuse to show me this information. |
| 19:38.16 | goxboxlive | In the args i have tride: -f /dev/rfcomm0', /dev/rfcomm0' /dev/ttyS1 and also nothing. I have done this by editing qpegps.conf in the Settings directory. |
| 19:43.37 | cr2 | did you install gpsd ? |
| 19:46.52 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 19:49.19 | cr2 | it has /dev/ttyS3 hardcoded in /etc/init.d/gpsd |
| 19:49.24 | goxboxlive | and i edited it to get it to point to ttyS1. Tried to get it to point to rfcomm0 but it refused to start |
| 19:49.44 | cr2 | you must use rfcomm |
| 19:49.53 | goxboxlive | hmmm |
| 19:50.56 | cr2 | qpegps is not exactly a bug-free program. look at its source ;) |
| 19:51.17 | goxboxlive | but the tsrange thing is, when i stop gpsd, and start it again with gpsd -f /dev/rfcomm0 it starts. But when i edit the file in 'init.d' i t refuse to start. |
| 19:52.00 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.59 | goxboxlive | I tried out the hx4700 script, but the stty showd me 0 in badrate. But the bluetooth where up, but i have no idea what speed it was set to |
| 19:56.29 | cr2 | stty may be confused with such high speed. |
| 19:57.36 | cr2 | we can look into the stty source. |
| 19:58.14 | cr2 | do you know what is ozi explorer ? |
| 20:03.02 | goxboxlive | I have heard of it, but isent that a WM app? |
| 20:03.23 | goxboxlive | It makes maps or something |
| 20:03.37 | cr2 | yes. there are two of them. |
| 20:03.52 | cr2 | ozi explorer for wince is like qpegps |
| 20:04.16 | cr2 | it uses a *.ozf2 format for maps |
| 20:04.36 | cr2 | the map consists of 64x64 tiles |
| 20:04.48 | cr2 | compressed with gzip. |
| 20:05.02 | cr2 | can be called "tiled png" |
| 20:05.02 | goxboxlive | ok i c |
| 20:05.24 | cr2 | a very clever approach, compared to qpegps |
| 20:06.01 | goxboxlive | o, isent there a way to use TomTom maps, or convert the someow? |
| 20:06.08 | cr2 | the format is of course proprietary, but there is source code for reading it. |
| 20:06.29 | cr2 | don't know about tomtom, but there is garmin format. |
| 20:06.48 | cr2 | http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com |
| 20:07.17 | cr2 | but i didn't see maps of Norway there. |
| 20:07.53 | cr2 | this format is open and documented. |
| 20:08.19 | goxboxlive | No there wherent any. |
| 20:09.27 | goxboxlive | Actually the touch screen seems like it works bether now. I can even hit the icons in the panelmanager |
| 20:09.48 | goxboxlive | That have never been working before. |
| 20:10.17 | cr2 | it works much better now. we need to write the nonlinear correction plugin to tslib. |
| 20:11.19 | cr2 | do you know why zroadmap is v1.0.8 in oe ? |
| 20:12.41 | goxboxlive | no |
| 20:12.54 | goxboxlive | havent tried zroadmap. |
| 20:13.23 | cr2 | it has only the US maps. |
| 20:13.51 | cr2 | but i think soon we will solve this problem. |
| 20:14.10 | cr2 | and the maps from mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com can be used too. |
| 20:14.29 | cr2 | also with route planning |
| 20:14.40 | cr2 | if this information is available. |
| 20:14.51 | cr2 | oneway/turn restrictions. |
| 20:14.54 | goxboxlive | actually, i'll build it, to see if it will connect with my BT gps |
| 20:15.28 | cr2 | it can work with gpsd or with raw nmea. |
| 20:15.50 | cr2 | you will see it with 'roadgps'. |
| 20:15.58 | goxboxlive | I have added my ///deploy/ipk to ipkg.conf so it works lika cxharm to install apps on the universal now. |
| 20:16.32 | cr2 | how big is your / ? |
| 20:17.02 | goxboxlive | the SD card? |
| 20:17.27 | goxboxlive | i have 500MB. I am using 1GB card, the other half i have GPE |
| 20:17.55 | goxboxlive | The OE does realy build apps fast. |
| 20:18.29 | cr2 | i mean 'du /' |
| 20:19.02 | rob_w | goxboxlive, it builds them |
| 20:19.17 | goxboxlive | hold on, i'll check. |
| 20:19.18 | rob_w | ...and hi room |
| 20:19.42 | rob_w | i hope for this data recovery job i will get a uni :-) |
| 20:20.40 | rob_w | didnt cp15 start some gps app ? |
| 20:21.00 | goxboxlive | I have used 72MB |
| 20:21.11 | goxboxlive | hi room i have no idea |
| 20:21.39 | cr2 | yes, but it is big and fat. and the map format is not documented. you must dig in the sources ;-) |
| 20:22.22 | rob_w | dont forget your oxigene while diving |
| 20:34.33 | goxboxlive | In the latest update in the CVS three, did you also uploaded the wlan driver ? |
| 20:42.21 | cr2 | it was there even earlier, but i can't see it in the anonymous CVS. |
| 20:46.58 | rob_w | we need to use a smaller cvs server service .. so then anoncvs and viewcvs will be acurate |
| 20:47.24 | cr2 | handhelds.org |
| 20:47.40 | rob_w | oh well , they have their own problems |
| 20:47.47 | cr2 | but the 2.6.16 kernel is needed |
| 20:48.07 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 20:49.11 | rob_w | hee cr2 where di you get your uni from ? |
| 20:49.14 | rob_w | btw Welcome stefan_schmidt :-) |
| 20:49.34 | cr2 | 7mobile |
| 20:50.16 | stefan_schmidt | rob_w: thanks :) |
| 20:50.24 | goxboxlive | cr2: Have you gotten any closer to the problem about the bootproblem with the 2.6.16 ? |
| 20:51.03 | cr2 | T-Mobile MDA Pro ab 137,77 € |
| 20:52.28 | cr2 | goxboxlive: no. |
| 20:57.33 | rob_w | 137 ? !?! |
| 20:59.56 | rob_w | thats a quite good price .. |
| 21:01.14 | cr2 | :) with some weird contract. |
| 21:01.20 | rob_w | i see |
| 21:07.36 | goxboxlive | Here in Norway it cost about €1.000. without a contract, with contract about €750. :-) |
| 21:09.14 | cr2 | you have enough money there :) |
| 21:11.50 | goxboxlive | Yes i guess |
| 21:12.49 | goxboxlive | Has anyone here been able to use findutils? I am struggling to build the database. How do i do that. In debian it's just up going after a fresh install. |
| 21:13.09 | rob_w | updatedb & |
| 21:13.14 | rob_w | maybe |
| 21:14.25 | goxboxlive | before u use updatedb you have to build the database. |
| 21:16.02 | goxboxlive | I have tried updatedb --output=/tmp/database.db but it doesnt work |
| 21:17.13 | cr2 | i think updatedb creates the database. |
| 21:18.08 | rob_w | updatedb & will build the database to the standard path .. then locate and friends will work |
| 21:20.48 | goxboxlive | I have tried that rob but i get the message: 'invalid option --f ' |
| 21:29.14 | goxboxlive | i realy miss that function in this linux dist. |
| 21:39.06 | rob_w | without parameter ? |
| 21:39.56 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 21:42.43 | rob_w | --output=dbfile |
| 21:42.44 | rob_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.54 | rob_w | says man |
| 21:45.03 | rob_w | those damn netgear people are on onside able to use linux for their needs , but are incompetent to have a webgui with ms activeX .. |
| 21:45.35 | goxboxlive | yes it's strange. |
| 21:46.43 | cr2 | rob_w: what is activeX ? |
| 21:48.16 | rob_w | i dont know by hard , but it doesnt quite work on any linux browser ive tested ;-) |
| 21:51.24 | cr2 | i switch java and javascript on only in extreme situations. |
| 21:51.43 | cr2 | and of course privoxy is always on. |
| 21:51.45 | immolo | activeX is like outlook for your browser |
| 21:52.19 | cr2 | don't scare me :) i don't know what is outlook. |
| 21:52.29 | immolo | outlook express |
| 21:52.50 | immolo | I mean it's a quick way to share viruses |
| 21:53.18 | immolo | and netgear don't use linux on there products anymore |
| 21:53.48 | cr2 | what are they using ? |
| 21:54.01 | immolo | vxworks or something |
| 21:54.14 | immolo | all routers use it even linksys do now |
| 21:54.46 | cr2 | i see. they probably need backdoors ;) |
| 21:55.05 | immolo | expect for the L model which is designed for the linux hacker only in mind |
| 21:55.23 | immolo | which gets my vote as a good company |
| 21:55.37 | cr2 | i hate embraced and extended embedded linux. |
| 21:55.55 | cr2 | look at the pain people have with motorola a780. |
| 21:56.19 | cr2 | or with the wireless driver on wrt54g |
| 21:56.59 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: Kernel 2.6 is going to works fine on A780 soon. ;) |
| 21:57.01 | immolo | there is a problem with the driver on the wrt54g |
| 21:57.16 | immolo | ? |
| 21:57.16 | cr2 | it may be easier to disassemble the closed source linux drivers, but it is just plain wrong. |
| 21:57.32 | cr2 | broadcom chipsets ? |
| 21:58.03 | cr2 | just an example. we need the g3 m-sys driver. btw, a780 too. |
| 21:58.15 | cr2 | a780 has a binary driver |
| 21:58.30 | cr2 | but compiled by some custom gcc, and for 2.4 only. |
| 22:00.00 | rob_w | heeh the g3 .. i once found a commercial embedded linux sdk .. they claimed on some website once to have one .. after they did send my a trial i found none |
| 22:00.54 | cr2 | imho there is a "source" sdk, but you must sign an nda. |
| 22:01.15 | rob_w | in what way or order does a cp -a go through directory `s ?? Alphabetic ? |
| 22:01.29 | cr2 | unlikely. |
| 22:01.48 | cr2 | it is just waste of cpu time to sort direntries. |
| 22:01.54 | rob_w | but there is a "order " right ? |
| 22:02.03 | rob_w | dont scare me .. |
| 22:02.38 | immolo | what's -a do |
| 22:02.49 | cr2 | preserves attributes. |
| 22:02.53 | immolo | are |
| 22:02.59 | rob_w | some more switches .. like archive |
| 22:03.08 | immolo | that was the command I was looking for the other day |
| 22:03.21 | rob_w | now u found it |
| 22:03.22 | immolo | rob_w, do a cp -av and watch :P |
| 22:03.54 | rob_w | i actually did ,, and i cant get that order if existing !! |
| 22:04.05 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: we want the ov9650 camera driver from a780 for the universal |
| 22:04.40 | rob_w | i need to know that order ,, |
| 22:04.59 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: take it. :) |
| 22:05.12 | stefan_schmidt | I know, we need to port it to 2.6 before. |
| 22:05.22 | cr2 | it's ugly and hidden in a780_camera.c |
| 22:05.37 | rob_w | i didnt took the time to use rync and dont have space for all .. so when it then breaks cause of no space left i need to see where to start again |
| 22:06.35 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: you are right. But we need some more time to rip all the driver out of the moto source and make fine patches for 2.6 |
| 22:06.42 | cr2 | we also have the USB host -> phone chipset data channel for the UMTS data using unknown protocol. |
| 22:06.50 | cr2 | something to think about. |
| 22:07.22 | cr2 | btw, i have a780 too. because of the linux route planner :) |
| 22:07.40 | rob_w | cr2, wow |
| 22:07.42 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: verbose please. Your phones have Neptun chip, too? |
| 22:07.58 | cr2 | no. |
| 22:08.08 | cr2 | msm6250 qualcomm. |
| 22:08.08 | stefan_schmidt | the route planner is ok, but good be better |
| 22:08.40 | cr2 | i will use roadmap soon, when i will understand how to "compile" european maps. |
| 22:09.22 | cr2 | if i use the pxa27x usb host driver, i see the phone as usb slave. |
| 22:09.42 | stefan_schmidt | multiplexing all this stuff through usb _inside_ the phone is braindead. But we have to deal with it |
| 22:09.56 | cr2 | but the /proc/bus/usb/devices says protocol: 0xff - vendor dependent. |
| 22:10.18 | cr2 | there are two endpoints. |
| 22:10.24 | cr2 | hmm. looking for the link. |
| 22:13.43 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: what kind of maps you can use for compiling it to roadmap format? |
| 22:15.13 | cr2 | here: |
| 22:15.17 | cr2 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35972&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=316 |
| 22:15.31 | cr2 | maps: http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com |
| 22:15.47 | cr2 | or those from http://navit.sf.net |
| 22:16.56 | stefan_schmidt | thanks |
| 22:21.17 | stefan_schmidt | Once 2.6 openezx port is working well we need to talk with you guys again about GUI and telephone apps. |
| 22:21.51 | stefan_schmidt | Anybody at LUGCamp or 23C3 this year? |
| 22:22.03 | cr2 | we need the common camera api and phone/voice/sms/fax/data/umts api. |
| 22:22.53 | cr2 | i was at 22c3 and talked with Harald Welte. |
| 22:23.21 | cr2 | at that time the universal was still hanging somewhere in the middle ;) |
| 22:23.39 | cr2 | but the blueangel was quite functional. |
| 22:23.41 | stefan_schmidt | you are the guy giving the short talk after Harald? |
| 22:23.45 | cr2 | no. |
| 22:23.49 | cr2 | it was cp15 |
| 22:24.05 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 22:24.28 | cr2 | i think the most didn't really understood, that the first free software phone was already there ;-) |
| 22:25.41 | cr2 | rob_w: have somebody tested the data/fax/gprs on ba ? |
| 22:25.45 | stefan_schmidt | That's right. I did't know it before, too. |
| 22:25.49 | stefan_schmidt | btw: http://debian.atekon.de/mirror/22c3/22C3-768-en-free_software_gsm_phone.mp4 |
| 22:26.06 | stefan_schmidt | 22C3 videos are out. |
| 22:26.19 | rob_w | nope .. |
| 22:26.20 | cr2 | interesting :) |
| 22:26.23 | rob_w | afaik |
| 22:26.44 | cr2 | i don't have such contract. |
| 22:26.49 | cr2 | so can't test. |
| 22:28.53 | cr2 | bah. 423 MB |
| 22:29.21 | BabelOued | hi cr2 |
| 22:29.36 | BabelOued | i can test GPRS, on my BA |
| 22:30.31 | cr2 | hi BabelOued. hmm. it's quite hacky. |
| 22:30.34 | BabelOued | it 's only with pppd, same thing thaht when i make connection with my computer over bluettoh to GPRS network |
| 22:31.11 | cr2 | you need to connect over /dev/ttyS0, but attach the pppd on /dev/ttyS8 afaik. |
| 22:31.55 | BabelOued | ok send AT command to ttyS0 and attach to ttyS8 is right ? |
| 22:32.37 | cr2 | yes. after chat will see "CONNECT" you should talk LCP on /dev/ttyS8 and not /dev/ttyS0 |
| 22:33.10 | BabelOued | ok i boot GPE now |
| 22:34.16 | BabelOued | i read few line ago thaht you don't know activex ?, that are bad thing, i have many problem to develop correct activex at my work under Windows XP |
| 22:34.44 | BabelOued | ok not GPE thaht's opie, not the right SD card :( |
| 22:34.58 | cr2 | i use linux exclusively since 1994. |
| 22:35.18 | cr2 | so i'm not that uptodate with the latest buzzwords. |
| 22:35.53 | BabelOued | ok, i start to develop in 1996 under linux and SCO, but now i m softare engineer under windows for OCR feature |
| 22:36.38 | cr2 | ocr? i thought there are 100000 programs to do it ? |
| 22:37.44 | husam | Hi |
| 22:37.51 | cr2 | hi |
| 22:37.59 | cr2 | acx news ? :) |
| 22:38.15 | husam | No .. was sick last few days :( |
| 22:38.35 | husam | I just started tonigh |
| 22:39.17 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:39.46 | husam | your room is more active then h6300 :) |
| 22:41.05 | cr2 | we have more common hardware. |
| 22:41.23 | cr2 | more widespread. |
| 22:41.35 | husam | Thats alows good :) |
| 22:41.58 | husam | I manage to read the partition table from my MDOC+ |
| 22:42.05 | cr2 | and a good marketing campaign at xda-dev :) |
| 22:42.16 | husam | but the info looks bit stange |
| 22:42.18 | cr2 | sounds good. |
| 22:42.47 | husam | I'm thinkin if getting the latest xda ... and have go with it |
| 22:43.08 | cr2 | which one ? |
| 22:44.12 | husam | Hmm I think unversal ... the one with full keybord !!! is that far description |
| 22:45.45 | cr2 | btw, how much does it cost ? last time i was in Finland it was not cheap... |
| 22:47.00 | husam | I haven't look at the price ... but I think around £250-300 |
| 22:47.47 | cr2 | the phone itself ? |
| 22:48.20 | cr2 | you mean € or £ :) |
| 22:48.37 | husam | £ english pound |
| 22:49.02 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:51.02 | husam | My contract is up for renewl ... so I should be able to get it cheaper |
| 22:51.22 | cr2 | i see. |
| 22:52.58 | BabelOued | cr2: it's OCR for LAD / GED not software for personnal use |
| 22:53.02 | husam | How far are you guys with port |
| 22:54.00 | cr2 | which one ? |
| 22:54.12 | husam | unversal :) |
| 22:54.16 | cr2 | BabelOued: ok. |
| 22:54.30 | cr2 | phone is a mystery. |
| 22:54.50 | husam | far enough ... sounds like h6300 |
| 22:54.54 | cr2 | the rest need some polishing and resume/suspend support. |
| 22:55.13 | cr2 | blueangel has a working phone. |
| 22:55.23 | cr2 | but universal has UMTS. |
| 22:55.50 | husam | lamikr is working on resume/suspend and I'm looking into mdoc/wlan |
| 22:56.03 | cr2 | i have gathered some info, but it is still a long way. |
| 22:56.17 | cr2 | wlan receive is working. |
| 22:56.35 | cr2 | it is good that universal has a lot of common devices with hx4700. |
| 22:57.03 | cr2 | i expect even the working camera soon. |
| 22:57.34 | husam | h6315 has camara but not h6340 |
| 22:57.56 | husam | so you have bluetooth in your device!!! and SDIO slot |
| 22:58.10 | cr2 | yes. both are working. |
| 22:58.31 | husam | Nice |
| 22:58.36 | cr2 | sd/mmc. sdio maybe :) |
| 22:59.18 | husam | I can buy sdio camara for h6340 ... |
| 23:00.01 | cr2 | then you will write a driver for it ;) |
| 23:00.20 | husam | yes .... when I get to it ...:) |
| 23:00.37 | cr2 | sdio is nothing more than obfuscated "serial" pcmcia. |
| 23:01.07 | husam | is it ... I haven't had look at the spec yet ... |
| 23:01.16 | cr2 | there are no specs. |
| 23:01.38 | husam | ohh ok |
| 23:02.05 | cr2 | and very politically incorrect ;-) |
| 23:02.46 | husam | I though ... sdio is just an extanstion to SD/MMC spec |
| 23:03.27 | cr2 | it is a "secret" extension. you need to pay $x000 per year to see the docs. |
| 23:04.02 | mndctrl | omg... |
| 23:04.10 | husam | ohhh crap |
| 23:04.13 | husam | :) |
| 23:04.53 | cr2 | you can reg-eng, but then better drop the driver at a remote open access point ;) |
| 23:05.55 | husam | companies should start thinking about the poor hackers out there :) |
| 23:07.15 | mndctrl | agreed ;) I'm working with some people trying to get a handtop/UMPC company on its feet... Its going to be all-linux and as open as possible ;) |
| 23:07.19 | BabelOued | cr2: thaht's normal , i have empty ATI1 .. 2 command, return is empty |
| 23:08.04 | cr2 | BabelOued: i think so. |
| 23:08.04 | husam | Nice .... they do benfit for whets been fone here you know .. |
| 23:08.37 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM |
| 23:09.30 | BabelOued | cr2: what do you use in command to dial with modem ? |
| 23:09.34 | BabelOued | cu ? |
| 23:10.04 | cr2 | yes. but it does not work on universal. |
| 23:10.10 | cr2 | there is also "chat" |
| 23:10.26 | cr2 | and the "frame wrapping" |
| 23:10.36 | cr2 | 0x2,0x16 |
| 23:26.33 | cr2 | time to go to bed. |
| 23:27.12 | BabelOued | ok good night |
| 23:29.25 | husam | goodnight .... |